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Speaker 2: Episode three, The Warren Treaty. I'll tell a story before

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Speaker 2: we get going here. So I was at the Grand

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Speaker 2: and I was introducing them and they're really good and

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Speaker 2: they went on, it's second time I've done this, and

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Speaker 2: they allude to the first time that I was at

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Speaker 2: the Opry and was able to introduce them. But I

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Speaker 2: They go out and they crush it. It's like multiple

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Speaker 2: standing ovations. He served in the military. He talks about that.

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Speaker 2: Two minutes maybe two thirty. Never got to ask him

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's that powerful of a performance.

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Speaker 2: And I was just I was talking to him last

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Speaker 2: Not realizing he hadn't been on yet. Because we do

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Speaker 2: Human story of like struggle and I don't want to

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Speaker 2: it's the War Entreaty. It's husband and wife duo, Michael

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Speaker 2: at the War Entreaty, or just see what they look like.

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Speaker 2: That's why I like to do sometimes on a podcast.

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Speaker 2: I need to see what people look like that I'm

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Speaker 4: Here's an example. Let's do some music here.

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Speaker 2: This is the song they performed at the ACMs called

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Speaker 4: Here's a little something called Ain't No Harm in Me.

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Speaker 2: We had that on the Country Top thirty Spotlight Artists

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Speaker 4: Mike, What's your Thing? One of the best love stories

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Speaker 2: and Treaty Here we Go, episode three ninety nine, Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much. I was watching this thing about Hooting

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Speaker 2: And so I'm watching this history of Hoody and they

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Speaker 2: The war and treaty. Michael's start with what's up with

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean we had seven band names before, and

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Speaker 1: I kept changing the name and Tanya was like, this

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Speaker 1: And so we start arguing. We're like going at it

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Speaker 4: The name happened, That's literally what happened.

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Speaker 1: That's the name right there, the war and treaty, and

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Speaker 6: We were Trotter and Blunt my maiden name. That sounds

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what, Warren Tritty, that's what we're going with.

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Speaker 6: Came from Patrick and other producers for the show. They

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Speaker 2: I didn't feel like it was derivative of the timid

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, and I don't know if that ever was

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Speaker 2: But I didn't feel like it was derivative. I felt

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Speaker 1: share this with my whole team and my wife. Not

443
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 1: that long ago, I said, you know, I, oh, I

444
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 1: know what it was in regards to the shooting here

445
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 1: in Nashville, right, I had to That situation helped me

446
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 1: feel again in a way that I had lost that feeling,

447
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm I've seen murder on a different scale,

448
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, and this year, I can honestly say I

449
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 1: started feeling again like I could feel that that pain, I.

450
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 3: Could feel that loss, you know.

451
00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: And I think it's through the love my wife and

452
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: through treatment, you know that I'm able to get to

453
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: that point. But so many soldiers, it's just like we

454
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: got to drive on, you.

455
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: Know, Hang tight.

456
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 5: The Bobby Cast will be right back, and we're back

457
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 5: on the Bobby Cast.

458
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 4: Where did you grow up?

459
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: I grew up in Washington, d C.

460
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 4: Did you were you always?

461
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 2: Indeed?

462
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 4: Were you Maryland at all?

463
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 6: It was Maryland, not of PG County. Yeah, but there's

464
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 6: the Potomac there there's.

465
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 4: A fine line there, and I've done both.

466
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: I've played the theater like literally in DC, right next

467
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,479
Speaker 2: to the Capitol, and then I've played the Amphitheater. And

468
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: there's like city and country and they are that line

469
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: that's real close to each other, and you go from

470
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: one to the other and there's no you know exactly

471
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: where you are. Oh yeah, so yeah, where did you

472
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: live in the city or the country?

473
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 3: I kind of lived in both.

474
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 6: I mean PG County at the time, it wasn't as

475
00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 6: populated as it is.

476
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 3: So we moved from Washington, DC.

477
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 6: My dad was a police officer, Washington DC police officer

478
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 6: for twenty five years, and we ended up moving to

479
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 6: PG County, which was very you know, suburbs, so they

480
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 6: would call us the suburbs girl when we went back

481
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 6: to the city, you know, and I didn't realize it

482
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 6: until I got older that that was a big difference.

483
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 6: And then we would also go to Newbern, North Carolina,

484
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 6: where my dad was from, every summer, so I.

485
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: Had I mean, that's the country, that's a real country.

486
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 6: That was dirt roads and hog pins in front of

487
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 6: my grandmama's y'ard and all that stuff.

488
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: So it was very different from me.

489
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 2: Did you sing as a kid?

490
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

491
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, how young?

492
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 6: And I was eight eight years old when I started.

493
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 6: My mom was from Panama, so I was listening to

494
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 6: all kinds of music. I was like, am I gonna

495
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 6: be Cellia Cruz? I might gonna be pay a little Belle,

496
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 6: you know, you know, I was just trying to make

497
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 6: the difference.

498
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 3: But eight years old was when I got the bug.

499
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 2: Did you sing in church or was there a stage

500
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: for you? Because usually social as artists that come in here,

501
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: church is always the first place that there's an open

502
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 2: stage that an It no't matter how good you are,

503
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 2: you can get up and make it joyful noise.

504
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

505
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 4: So did you sing in church at all?

506
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, everywhere was a stage.

507
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 6: I was one of those kids, whether it was a

508
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 6: living room, whether it's a church. I was always entering

509
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 6: myself in talent shows from age like seven.

510
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I was very extravagant as kid.

511
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 6: I don't know if I was good more if the

512
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 6: theatrics of it all is good.

513
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 2: You know, if you were to be an adult now

514
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 2: and see you at seven, not know it was you singing,

515
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: would you go that seven year old's got real potential?

516
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 4: To be a great singer.

517
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: Where'd you go That seven year old has got real

518
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 2: potential to have potential.

519
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 6: You know, it's interesting because I was so flamboyant and

520
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 6: so wild.

521
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: I would have said that that seven year old is

522
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 3: going to make a good entertainer.

523
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, because there was just no bars off when I

524
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 6: was seven, I mean there was I was free.

525
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 4: Is that what you wanted to be when you grew

526
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 4: up a singer?

527
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: No, I didn't. I wanted to be a lawyer. I

528
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: wanted to practice entertainment law.

529
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 6: But then I got the bug and I was like, okay,

530
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 6: this is a way for me to kind of, you know,

531
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 6: get into music as a lawyer.

532
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: It's to sing.

533
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: When did the bug change direction? Because I apparently always

534
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: loved to sing, but you thought you would do something else.

535
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 2: When did it kind of consume you that, Okay, I'm

536
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: not going to do that. I am going to sing.

537
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 6: Very interesting because I had my first record deal when

538
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 6: I was seventeen, and I remember being in that and

539
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 6: doing the music and putting out a record. I would

540
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 6: say that the bug didn't really hit me until the

541
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 6: Warren Treaty. Really, yeah, it got me when I started

542
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 6: doing with Michael and because I left my record deal

543
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 6: and when I was like twenty two, twenty three, and

544
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't want to do this anymore.

545
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 3: The passion wasn't there.

546
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 6: I didn't have that thing that it takes for you

547
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 6: to go through the highs and lows with it.

548
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything that even though you're getting all the nose,

549
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 2: you keep going.

550
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 3: Yes, that thing. I didn't have that thing.

551
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 6: And once I got with the Warren Treaty and we

552
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 6: were doing like.

553
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 3: Coffee house tours, and I was so happy.

554
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 6: We were he being the coffee shops and it's like

555
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 6: two people clapping. But the music made me so happy.

556
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 6: And it was every genre of music that I just

557
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 6: loved that we were kind of, you know, a musical

558
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 6: gumbo together. So the Warren Treaty gave me that spark.

559
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 6: And when I met Michael out on that field at

560
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 6: Laurel's Lake in Maryland, it was him out there in

561
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 6: this hot I mean it had to be ninety five

562
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 6: degrees outside of here on a big koogie like sweater

563
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 6: back then, you know, those were like the sweaters. But

564
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,239
Speaker 6: he was killing it and his passion for it was

565
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,719
Speaker 6: just something that I remember at eight years old climbing

566
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 6: up in the tree in my backyard writing little notes

567
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 6: of my little songs back then that I had at

568
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 6: eight years old, but I didn't have at seventeen once

569
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 6: I got the deal, but he had it.

570
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 4: How'd you guys meet.

571
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: At Laurel Lakes? It was a love festival. As cheesy

572
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 3: as it sounds, it's so love festival. It's so check.

573
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: It sounds a little, you.

574
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: Know, but it's not really.

575
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 3: Maybe in ten years there was a love of the community.

576
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: They were giving out backpacks and they wanted singers. And

577
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: I was a local local when they were like, you

578
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: should come sing sing your sing you song.

579
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, as a festival that I would do in the

580
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 6: city to give backpacks back to the underprivileged kids in

581
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 6: the area.

582
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: And Michael was one of the artists.

583
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 4: So you saw him singing, you were drawn to him?

584
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 1: Oh?

585
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

586
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 2: Were you drawn to him?

587
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 4: Like that's an energy?

588
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: I want to be around her, Like that's an energy

589
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 2: I want to be a road.

590
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: That's both. It was both, you know.

591
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 6: I immediately gave him my phone number and he was

592
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 6: there with his friend.

593
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 4: Her approaching it.

594
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: Do you remember, I sure do I remember me approaching

595
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: her and she was ignoring my conversations.

596
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about that.

597
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 4: So what's the real story here?

598
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my story. Is a real story, that's.

599
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: Not it's your side, my side down the truth.

600
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,479
Speaker 1: I walked up on Tyan and this lady named Diane

601
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 1: introduced us, and Tanya gave me her little hand, her

602
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: little hand like this, and I was like, oh, Michael,

603
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: and she said I'm and then turned right around and

604
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: kept talking.

605
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 3: I was like, this girlfriend, I peeped the same, you know,

606
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: let's see what's happening. I'm not gonna.

607
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: However, however, you know, I remember her coming up to

608
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: me at the end of my my set and she.

609
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 3: Was like, did you write all these songs? And I said, yeah, yeah,

610
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 3: I wrote them.

611
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: And she told me about the project she and her

612
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: brother were actually working on, and she wanted me to

613
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: come in as a writer, and she gave me her

614
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: phone number.

615
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: Right then, just from that one, just I want you

616
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: to come in as a writer, straight up.

617
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, she can't remember. Yeah, I got it. I threw

618
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: number away.

619
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 4: Why is you have a girlfriend?

620
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 3: No, I just I read into it.

621
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: I was like, she don't want, she doesn't want, this

622
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: is a fake number, you know what I mean? Tanya

623
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: is beautiful, and I had a lot of esteem issues,

624
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: and you know, I wasn't paying attention to writing.

625
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: I like, yeah, this, this is gonna be us, you know.

626
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: And I threw the number way and instantly regretted it.

627
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 1: And I'm driving my girlfriend at the time home and

628
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: it was her.

629
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 3: She's like, you like her, don't you?

630
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: And I was like no, and yeah, She's like I

631
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: could see y'all together.

632
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: Like I was like, I could too.

633
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: Well, your girlfriend told you, yeah that she could see you, yeah,

634
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: with another person.

635
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: Surely she said, yeah, she is. She she definitely told

636
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: me that. She was like I can see y'all. Y'all's

637
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: energy right there in that convo. Was like, I was

638
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: like really, because I didn't. I didn't think there was

639
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: no energy there at all.

640
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: But how did you guys find each other back then?

641
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: If you don't have her number? I found that police off.

642
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: That's hilarious.

643
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: He's a private detective.

644
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 6: At the time, I was like, I wish they had

645
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 6: face recognition back then.

646
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: That's so funny.

647
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, so your dad just type type type got in me.

648
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: You called me all this ninth twenty ten.

649
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: I had literally, I know the exact time it was

650
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: like two fifteen PM. Was I just got out of

651
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: church and I looked down at my phone this weird,

652
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: strange number and I'm with a whole bunch of homies

653
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: and and.

654
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: I said, hello, it's just like Michael.

655
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: And I'm like yeah. She's like, this is Tanya Blunt.

656
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: And I'm like, hold on, shut up, ain't I shut up?

657
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: This is her man?

658
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: She found me, and then I give it for money. Hello,

659
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: I'm is this Michael's a different place.

660
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: And how long till you guys went out?

661
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 6: Oh my god, we were connected right away. Yeah, I

662
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 6: think we maybe like a week later.

663
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: You came over. No, I came over that Monday. Yeah.

664
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: Next, I came over with her house that Monday and

665
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: we talked about her story and what she was trying

666
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: to accomplish with the songs. And I went home and

667
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: just I was just like smitten, and I just wrote

668
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: all these songs and I gave them all to her

669
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: and I was like here, you know, and she was

670
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: like what you know.

671
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: I'm like they're yours. No, I don't want any credit,

672
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: I want nothing. You know.

673
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: I didn't understand a lot back then, but I understood

674
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: that I felt we were we were This was my wife, honestly,

675
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: and and there's a part of this that we're not

676
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: talking about.

677
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: Part.

678
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: So Tany I saw Tanya before, ok, and so one

679
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: of our band names, what one of our band names

680
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: was called nine years apart, and Tanya and I are

681
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: nine years apart. I saw her when I was nine

682
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: years old, and I told my parents that's my wife.

683
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 4: And that he was zero. You were nine, she was zero.

684
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: No, that I'm a a sable tooth.

685
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: Forget the cougar, and my dad laughed at me, you know.

686
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: And I saw her in the movies. She was in

687
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: the movie Sister Act too, and uh yeah, yeah her

688
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: and will Be Gover Lauren Hill and Tanya and An

689
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: had that famous scene in the church at the piano

690
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: where Tanya was like, you take the top, I ticked

691
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: the bottom and they're singing His Eyes on Sparrow. And

692
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: I fell in love with Tanya then, and so you know,

693
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: when I when we started talking, I remember running to

694
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: my parents' house at like three in the morning, banging

695
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: on their door and they were like, what Blank's wrong

696
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: with you? And I'm like, I found her, you know, So.

697
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 4: What do you think about that story?

698
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: It's true I do.

699
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he commends to it.

700
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: He's committed.

701
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 6: He's committed, and you know, maybe in nine years older

702
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 6: than him. Now that I know that this is his thing,

703
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 6: he came to me the other day, this is off topic.

704
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: He was like, Tanya, no, like, no, don't do it.

705
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 6: He does it, do it, And he was just like, Okay.

706
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 6: Luckily I can't remember her name, but he was like, hey,

707
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 6: I got to have my past, my whole past. I

708
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 6: got to show you who she is. And I'm thinking, oh,

709
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 6: lose here I am. I'm you know, I'm holding my breath.

710
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 6: I'm like, she has to be some young hot chick.

711
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: She's on the cover of sports illustrator Stuart.

712
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 4: Did you see that by eighty three?

713
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 6: Yes, that's he is obsessed with anything like forty years

714
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 6: older than him. So I was like, oh, I'm going

715
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 6: to always be young to him, forever, forever young.

716
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: How long until you guys got married?

717
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: Oh?

718
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 6: My god, right away? Like we went out. My birthday

719
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 6: was a month maybe in a week after we met.

720
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 6: Michael came to my birthday party on September thirtieth. We

721
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 6: started dating October first and never had a dead.

722
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 3: Part and we got married in June. Yeah, it was

723
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: never a dead part.

724
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 4: You just knew.

725
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, that's question. Yeah. I was like, I'm giving

726
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: you a son, you know that, right? Yeah?

727
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: How did you how did you propose.

728
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: You want to do this?

729
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: Is that cause you both just knew?

730
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, just knew.

731
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 4: It was just there.

732
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean, we had it was it was you know,

733
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: I never wanted to be apart from Tanya from the

734
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: moment you know, we connected and and it was just

735
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's still that way even now. She kicked

736
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: me out of when her acting let classes yesterday and

737
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: I was so depressed, so hurt.

738
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 3: I was like, we just did together.

739
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: Why do you want to leave me already?

740
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? We we just have fun. I mean, like you know,

741
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 3: we and we argue.

742
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: I think when I knew is when we had like

743
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: a big argument, a big blowout, and then it was over,

744
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, wait, We're not going to have

745
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: like two days of just continuing this argument.

746
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: And we were just looking at each other like like

747
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: you're on ice cream. Now, play basketball is over. We're good.

748
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: What happened?

749
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: You fell off the stage at Ryman. Just so you

750
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: guys that aren't watching this, because some of you may

751
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: be watching this. Tanya shaking her head right now because

752
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: I what happened.

753
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 3: I could we couldn't avoid. I just thought we would

754
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: be able to avoid this.

755
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: So the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame they did

756
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: this this event this year called Rock the Ryman, and

757
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: it's where you know, artists today would choose two songs

758
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: to cover from an artist who was in the Hall

759
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: of Fame but who has frequent the Ryman.

760
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 3: Tyan. I chose, of course Ray.

761
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: Charles, but it's the second artist that we chose which

762
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: gives the problems.

763
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: Who was it? Jones Jet and we did.

764
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: I hate myself for loving you, I'm telling you, and

765
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: I was feeling myself. I had on this browns fringe jacket,

766
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: I had on the white shirt, and I had on

767
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: these Eddie Murphy raw leather red pants.

768
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: I just like and we were singing.

769
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: Our first song was the Ray Charles Take These Changs,

770
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: and we did so well.

771
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: Everybody enjoyed it, you know, it was on their feet

772
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: the Ryman.

773
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, we got through that, and now

774
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: he comes to rock roll song and we're doing great,

775
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: and I find I get like a what I call

776
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: a warning shot, because I I'm supposed to stand with Tanya,

777
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: and Tanya kept going this way on the stage, and

778
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: so I decided to go around the piano to come

779
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: up on her side so I can.

780
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: Stay with her, and I trip.

781
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: This is the warning shot I get that should have said, Michael,

782
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: take your big butt back over where he's supposed to

783
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: be and just stay there and finish the song.

784
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 3: You're killing it.

785
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: But no, I just keep going and I get over

786
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: to Tayan's side and we're almost done. I hate my

787
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: note and we're doing this hire. I'm like, that's why,

788
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: that's why, and I'm digging into it and I go

789
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: down and I never come up. Yeah, I'm like, what

790
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: was in my head? I'm like, what's happening? And I

791
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: go back and I hit my head on the piano.

792
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 3: I'm out. I'm actually out for about forty seconds. Yeah,

793
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: we counted. I'm out cold.

794
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they're like, is your head okay? When I

795
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: come to my head's fine.

796
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 4: The show they did well.

797
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 6: I didn't stop singing because he's such a trickster. So

798
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 6: I thought he was doing like a Stone Colt Steve

799
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 6: Austin move or something. And I'm like, oh, he's down,

800
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 6: he's he's feeling those red pants today. So when he

801
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 6: went down, you know, I didn't think anything of it

802
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 6: until he was out. When he hit his head on

803
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 6: the piano and I looked down. I was like trying

804
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 6: to shake him and he wouldn't wake up.

805
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: Ye yeah, yeah, And the people tell something's wrong in

806
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: the crowd.

807
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you could hear it because they thought it

808
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 6: was just a part of the show too, but you

809
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 6: could hear go all wind Arlie.

810
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. He thought I was doing like a James Brown.

811
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: So he's like, oh, like down then.

812
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: Back up, You're gonna come back up slow.

813
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

814
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm like, I don't remember James Brown falling straight.

815
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember going down on the knee and getting

816
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: the k put over and they're coming back up.

817
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he but Bobby, it's so weird because the

818
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: band is like digging into it. Once I dig into it.

819
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: When I fall, it's like it's slow. It's like boom boom,

820
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: boom boom, and it sounds even slower to me. I'm like,

821
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: what is it? And then so they finally Lord Ryman

822
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: curtains and step older picking up.

823
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: You have you have fans holding up. Yeah, they're looking

824
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: what you broke? Myphibia.

825
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and but don't I didn't need surgery. And the

826
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: way I broke it, it didn't destroy any like real

827
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: cardish or anything like that.

828
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: But it was so weird, you know. And it's not

829
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: it's not a pain.

830
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: It's not a painful injury, honestly, it's just a lot

831
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: of soreness, you know.

832
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: And and when.

833
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: You turk it a little bit to to to the left,

834
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: because my injury was that way, I'm reminded like, oh, yeah,

835
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: I did do something.

836
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: You know. He's been milking it. He's milked it on

837
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 3: this tour.

838
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: So on man, wheelchairs, baby, I will.

839
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 3: Never I have all kind of fitness clothes. Now. Pushing

840
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: that wheelchair, I'm like, I just I got PTS different.

841
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: They leave me in the middle of BNA sitting in

842
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: this wheelchair. Man, I'm like, can someone come push me

843
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: to the daggoning gate?

844
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: Like what about? And it makes me sit there like this.

845
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, he just looks so pitiful. He's been milking

846
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: every minute of this injury.

847
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 5: The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to

848
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 5: the Bobby Cast.

849
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: Did you get together singing or in like a deep relationship?

850
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: First relationship for relationship. Yeah.

851
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't sing together, I want to say until

852
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: about four years into knowing each other.

853
00:38:54,320 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: Wow, even though you saw him sing, you knew, she saying,

854
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: obviously you gave her some songs, you were involved, and

855
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 2: you didn't sing together for that long.

856
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 3: Why she was only.

857
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: Doing it for her brother? She was over music, and

858
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: I felt that was a tragedy, you know. Tony was like, no,

859
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't want it. And then when it didn't worry

860
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: out with her her brother, she was just done. And

861
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: then we had a baby, and so she was like

862
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: really enjoying.

863
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 3: Motherhood all over again.

864
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: And I was just trying to make a life for us,

865
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: you know, I mean we counted it.

866
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we weren't about to say, right, this is a

867
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: weird thing.

868
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: From two thousand and ten all the way to about

869
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: twenty the end of fourteen, we lived in twenty two

870
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: different places.

871
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: We were like.

872
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: Home was struggling and bouncing from house to house, staying

873
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: with friends. And I was a struggling artist and Tanya

874
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: actually became my manager. So I was trying to like

875
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: make it, you know. I tried everything. I tried Christian music,

876
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: I tried R and B. Because all of these styles

877
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: were inside of me, and I even went and tried.

878
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: You know, I never tried, but I had a country

879
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: persona in these country songs.

880
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: And my country name was Trotter Michaels. Very clever. Yeah,

881
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: it needless to say. Yeah, but we were done. We

882
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: were we were, you know.

883
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: And then a friend of ours I wrote a song

884
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: called I Am Love, and I was teaching it to

885
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: Tanya for her and her brother. I was like, I

886
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: think y'all should try this again. And the friend hurt

887
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: us and she was like that that's not normal. You

888
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: all need to really investigate this. Tanya, you're great alone, Michael,

889
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: you're good, but together, you know, you guys have something

890
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: that could shake.

891
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: Some stuff up. Yeah.

892
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 6: And that's the way I actually learned about his military service,

893
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 6: because I didn't know we were married for what three

894
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 6: four years, and I didn't know he had served in

895
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 6: the military. I didn't know he'd gone to war. I

896
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 6: just knew something was wrong, you know. I knew that

897
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 6: there was something going on with him. I didn't know

898
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 6: if he was depressed or what. But once I found out,

899
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 6: as with the war and treaty, the song started really

900
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 6: letting me into his world.

901
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: So That's how I found out. And that fourth of July, July,

902
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 3: that was the last one.

903
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, we can't do this anymore, like you

904
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: need to talk. And that was you know, I was

905
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: embarrassed of my service because when I came home, it

906
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: wasn't a welcome party for me.

907
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: You know.

908
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: In fact, there are a lot of people angry that

909
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: I even joined the army and I served under My

910
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: commander in chief was George Bush, who I felt guilty

911
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: for because I loved you know, I actually loved Bush,

912
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: and and you know, we were serving and I remember

913
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: coming home, I flew into BWI and there were signs

914
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: and people were booing and throwing stuff at us, and

915
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm I was like, oh, our country is not not

916
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: happy because you know, over in the war we're away

917
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: from all of that. We don't hear it.

918
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: It's not on.

919
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: We don't really have TVs in certain parts of the war,

920
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: so computers and all that stuff. And you know, you

921
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: imagine you get home and you see you hear booze

922
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: in a real way. So I decided, you know what,

923
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep this quiet. And even going after jobs,

924
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: I remember with this one company, me and a guy

925
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: we were only too interviewing, and we were sitting there

926
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: and he looked well put together. I looked well put together.

927
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: And we just wanted to scope each other out. Honestly,

928
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: We're just trying to see which one was going to

929
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: get this job, you know. And I'm like, so, what's

930
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: your background?

931
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 6: Man?

932
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I just got out of prison. And

933
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I got this job, you know. And

934
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, man, what's yours? I said, oh, I

935
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: just came home from Warren.

936
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: I didn't know.

937
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: He was tallying over there as well, and he's like,

938
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: you ain't no different from me.

939
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: Bro.

940
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I begged the different. In my head,

941
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I begged the different. But he's like three

942
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: hots in the cot. I was like three hots in

943
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: the cot. He said, you know, at the top of

944
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: your your position, bob wire and guards and they aiming

945
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: in right.

946
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 3: And I was like, wow, yeah, he said, uh I

947
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 3: hope you do well. Man. He got the job over me.

948
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: I could not believe it. I was like, how did

949
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 3: that happen?

950
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: And then I understood that it was an incentive in

951
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: our country to hire X cons. First, you know, the

952
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: employers were getting little. You hired the ex cons, rehab

953
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: them and everything over a soldier who has valiantly fought

954
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 1: and decorated. So I just decided I got to figure

955
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: something else out. And I decided to go play the

956
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: piano for churches. And I told Tyan, you know, at

957
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: one point, I said, honey, I can't do it no more.

958
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: I was making one hundred and twenty five dollars a week,

959
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: ain't bringing in nothing. And I told her, I said, honey,

960
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: I can't do it no more. And she said, well,

961
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: I think we should sing now.

962
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: That That was the day. That was, Yeah, that was.

963
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: And she introduced me to Civil Wars. She showed me

964
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: Civil Wars. She showed me this band called the Lone Bellow.

965
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: She showed shovels and ropes, monfering and sons and but

966
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: it wasn't until this one particular day I had lost

967
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: the battle, buddy, remember, and I saw an artist named

968
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: Lee Brice music video called I Drive Your Truck. And

969
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: it changed my life. It changed and I still I

970
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: still feel it because I really needed him right then.

971
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: There never met this guy, never had one phone conversation

972
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: with him, but that guy saved my life.

973
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 3: That day, Lee.

974
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: Brice, I dropped your truck and I told Taya, I said, Tanya, somehow,

975
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: some way, I just want to do music that puts

976
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: us in these circles with people like that, because he's

977
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: got to he's got to have some sort of connection

978
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: with what I'm going through.

979
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 3: That we got to.

980
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: Know these kind of folks. And then Bradley Gilbert, that's

981
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: one hell of a name. Man like country music started

982
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: really pulling me out of my stupor. I mean I was,

983
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: I was there, bro like, you know, I had my

984
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: letters goodbye, you know, and Tanya convinced me to go

985
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: get treatment and yeah.

986
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 6: And that was when we were able to The VA

987
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 6: really stepped in for us right then and there, and

988
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 6: we it stabilized us a lot, so we didn't have

989
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 6: to live from house to house. And you know, country

990
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 6: music was the one music when we listened to it

991
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 6: we could drink a beer half wine and say God

992
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 6: at the same time, you know, and have faith at

993
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 6: the same.

994
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 3: Time as our whole experience everything.

995
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 6: You know, because every other music in every other genre

996
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 6: kind of you know, you're hitting and if you want

997
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 6: to do Christian music, you better not have a beer.

998
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: You know, if you want to do gospel music, it's

999
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: the same thing, but you better not. Yeah, exactly, So

1000
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: you know, country, you can do it all. So we

1001
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: loved it.

1002
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

1003
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 5: This is the Bobby Cast.

1004
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: So you guys, you just start bucking shows. You say,

1005
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: coffee houses? Are you just showing up? Like, how does

1006
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 2: that start? Because that's the hardest part.

1007
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 3: That's well.

1008
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,959
Speaker 6: Michael ended up getting us a turtle top band conversion band,

1009
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 6: which I thought was like a tour bus.

1010
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't tell me seven hundred bucks.

1011
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: You couldn't tell.

1012
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. So it had the seats that go back.

1013
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: Bucket seats, you know, the big old turtle top and

1014
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: conversion bands. Luxury had a little old TV at the top.

1015
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: I thought we were doing it. We were doing it,

1016
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: and Legend just was in heaven.

1017
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, he named it Rocket And I would be up

1018
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 6: all night long. I went through this thing, and I

1019
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 6: was just calling every coffee house a ninety five quarter

1020
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 6: because we were in the Maryland area.

1021
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 3: So we would just do open mics.

1022
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 6: Coffee houses, whatever would let us play, you know, and

1023
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 6: I would I created a little thirty city tour.

1024
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: Oh, our first gig here. We made it all way

1025
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: up to Nashville. Our first gig here it was Tennessee.

1026
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: Our first gig here was Tennessee brew Works.

1027
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1028
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: They want us to play for four hours for tips.

1029
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was like, sure, you know, it's Nashville.

1030
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: I don't even care.

1031
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: This was in twenty fifteen and we we we literally

1032
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: got through three songs before we we had to quit

1033
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: this gig because we were being heckled in a real way.

1034
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: It was horrible. I mean they were heckling us. Boom,

1035
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: go back to where you came from.

1036
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 3: This is awful.

1037
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: And do you want to know who it was? It

1038
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: was our four year old son Legend. He's throwing salt

1039
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: up like confetti. He's like, oh that sucks, look at

1040
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: me and squirting to ketch up. And I'm like, I'm

1041
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: trying to sing this. So I'm looking at you, like,

1042
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: get your son. He's your son today, And I'm like, oh,

1043
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: myke And we pause and we go give him a

1044
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: talking to in the bathroom. I'm like, if you don't stop,

1045
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to rain down off fire on you. Do

1046
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: you understand, yes, sir. We go back out there and

1047
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: he's like he's worth.

1048
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: He's like.

1049
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: You suck and I was like, oh my god.

1050
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 3: And people were like laughing and to be in there

1051
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 3: because we didn't have a baby babysitter.

1052
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: Tod, I said I'll go take care of it. And

1053
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: I went and told the person that booked. I was like, hey, man,

1054
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: he was like, just go, just go man.

1055
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: I understand.

1056
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so sorry. And I told Thomas

1057
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: will never be ever.

1058
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 3: That was wild. That was wild. Times.

1059
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 6: We have to go like on nanny dot com to

1060
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 6: find nanny's to watch them for like two hours at

1061
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 6: the venue.

1062
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: It was hard, you know, but we no one believed.

1063
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: Our families didn't.

1064
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one thought that.

1065
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: They thought we were cool cool. I mean like we

1066
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: would go play shows. I remember our parents came to

1067
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: one show and there was like four people in the audience.

1068
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 6: And my dad was like he called me the next

1069
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 6: day he was like, is this what you really want

1070
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 6: to do?

1071
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't think this is a good idea.

1072
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 3: We had a violinist, a piano, and a tambourine, like

1073
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 3: stopping at the little floor stop. My dad was like,

1074
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is a good idea. You you know,

1075
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: you went to college and Americanna.

1076
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 4: When did it start to be the right idea America?

1077
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: We were President Trump got elected? Was that twenty sixties?

1078
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 3: Yea sixteen.

1079
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: I remember we did a show in Tampa and at

1080
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: the Palladium. Remember this President Trump just got elected. And

1081
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: it was mean Tanian and our cellist. He was a

1082
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: white guy, till and Benham. Hello Tillman. And I said,

1083
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're going to walking to because

1084
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: we're in Tampa, Florida, and I'd been hearing like some mumblings,

1085
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, but we're here to unite.

1086
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: I said, that's our purpose, that's what we're here for.

1087
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: And when we walked through the curtain, we were met

1088
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: with all these cheers. We sold it out. I couldn't

1089
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: believe that, like we sold it out. However, I swear

1090
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: you would have thought you were in the sixties. All

1091
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: the black people were on this side and all of

1092
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: the white people were on that side.

1093
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: It was split in half. And I just couldn't believe it.

1094
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: And we I said to the band, I said to

1095
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: Titian until I said, you know, we can't do a

1096
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: show like this, And they were like, what.

1097
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 3: Are you gonna do.

1098
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: I said, everybody stand up, and they were all cheering

1099
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: and standing. I said, okay, I said, meet me in

1100
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: the center. I said, now shake a person's hand who

1101
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: you don't know, and then y'all decide where you're gonna sit.

1102
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 3: And that's how we're gonna do the show.

1103
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: And everyone sat with someone they did not know, and

1104
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 1: who didn't you couldn't sit with a person that looked

1105
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: like you, you know. And we did the show that night,

1106
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: and for me, the reviews of that show and what

1107
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: people were saying, that was when it clicked. And then

1108
00:51:52,560 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: the next day and Delasi from wdet in Detroit called us,

1109
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: blowing our phone up. She said, Don Was is looking

1110
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: for you and why are you serious? And everything just

1111
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: changed from there. Don Was got us to Buddy Miller,

1112
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: who got us to Nashville. You know Buddy Miller. You

1113
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: know Buddy Miller. Buddy Miller is a he's like an

1114
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: Americana god, like the America, the genre Americana.

1115
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: And he used to play in.

1116
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: Emmy Lou Harris's band and then he became like this

1117
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: good great producer. He and his wife, Buddy and Julie

1118
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: Miller and Buddy he was the music executive over Nashville

1119
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: the TV show for for some time. Buddy produced our

1120
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: first album and he taught us so much, but he said,

1121
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: Nashville is about collaboration, and he said, I want you

1122
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: to know you have a place here.

1123
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 3: You've been long here, we need you here.

1124
00:52:54,800 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: And Emmy Lou Harris, Yeah, just she made me brownies

1125
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,959
Speaker 1: for my birthday and brought them to our very first

1126
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: recording session and she just held our hands and just breathed,

1127
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, holy crap, this is happening. All

1128
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: of that just shifted and changed things for us. The

1129
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: McCreary's sisters, who are a Nashville staple, just the Americana

1130
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: community really started embracing us and really started giving us

1131
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: the confidence we needed.

1132
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: When would you say that? Yeah, definitely.

1133
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 6: I think that was the turning point for us because

1134
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 6: ours record was playing in Tampa where we had our show.

1135
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 6: They were promoting it and that's how Don Wats heard it.

1136
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 6: So when he called, I was like, well maybe if

1137
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 6: we have the attention of a Don Waz who produced

1138
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 6: such big acts of the Rolling Stones and stuff like that,

1139
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 6: I'm like maybe we have something.

1140
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: So it was great, Yeah, do.

1141
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 4: You guys live here now we do. When did you

1142
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 4: move to Nashville twenty eighteen?

1143
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, kicking and screaming.

1144
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 4: I did not want to so right before the pandemic.

1145
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Why did you not want to listen?

1146
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: I didn't want to move here either.

1147
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 4: I did.

1148
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's great, but I was the same way.

1149
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really didn't want to move here.

1150
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 3: I didn't want to move here. We lived in a

1151
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: small town.

1152
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 6: We were just coming together after all the homeless and

1153
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 6: different things like that. We were living in a little

1154
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 6: town called Albion, Michigan, where everybody knows your name, you're

1155
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 6: always gleducating, you know, kind of town. And I loved

1156
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 6: it so much, and Legend loved it. And I could

1157
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 6: walk to the post office.

1158
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 3: She was kicking the scream and going there too. I was,

1159
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 3: I was anyway. And it was cold, Yeah it was cold.

1160
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 3: I was like crazy. I don't like the co so.

1161
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 6: I literally when we moved to Nashville never went outside

1162
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 6: for like nine months. I didn't go. I would go

1163
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 6: Michael would go to the grocery store. He loved it.

1164
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 6: And then you know, we would tour and stuff like that.

1165
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 6: And when we had some time, off and we ended

1166
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 6: up moving to the other part of town. I ended

1167
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 6: up liking it.

1168
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all about the part of town.

1169
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 3: See yeah, I mean you.

1170
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: Know, because then she started going out in Nashville and

1171
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I love Nashville.

1172
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, I try to blame this to you.

1173
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 6: It's like Dallas and uh, what do I say? Dallas

1174
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 6: in somewhere mixed together California without the water. I mean,

1175
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 6: Nashville is like it is good food. Everything's bigger, you know.

1176
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: I took her line dancing that was fun that the

1177
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: Nashville Palace. I got video of me dancing.

1178
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 3: He was getting I was looking crazy. She needs help.

1179
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah he's pretty good, pretty smooth.

1180
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Lover's game. Obviously it's the track, But

1181
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: why did you choose that to name the record?

1182
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: Just the our love affair with Nashville in my opinion,

1183
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about stuff in there like Marguerite,

1184
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: the Hot Chicken, strawberry wine, you know, and court see

1185
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: if Dave copp But you know, everyone moves here chasing

1186
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: the dream.

1187
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's a songwriter's dream, it's an artist dream.

1188
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: And I remember our first bout Ashviield was walking through

1189
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: the Country Music Hall of Fame. We were there to

1190
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: help induct Dottie West, and it's.

1191
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 3: Just this love affair.

1192
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: I loved it, Tanya hated it, and there was a

1193
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,919
Speaker 1: game to play in order to stay here. And from

1194
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: that moment on, I just thought about, you know, Tony,

1195
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: this is I feel like this is setting up our

1196
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: life in a way that our lives haven't been set

1197
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: up before. And songs from there just followed, like the

1198
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: journey blank page, just starting from a blank canvas and

1199
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: building your own story. You know, we know the stories

1200
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: that come up in Nashville, but to be a part

1201
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 1: of making a whole nother story, you know, and then

1202
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: realizing there's no harm that can be done to you

1203
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: when you're staying true to yourself, ain't no harm in me?

1204
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: And then Yesterday's burned, just leaving that baggage behind and

1205
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: so on, you know that.

1206
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 2: Ain't no harmony. We played down on the Countdown, right,

1207
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: put that? Yeah, that's a good one. I put that

1208
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: on the National Countdown. Thanks March Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1209
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 2: Well we played some stuff before you guys came in

1210
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 2: the intro and talked about you know, all of the

1211
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 2: you know, the technical stuff people needed to know. I

1212
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 2: just want to kind of get to know you guys

1213
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: and want our audience that didn't know you already to

1214
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: get to know you guys. You guys can go to

1215
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 2: uh Instagram, TikTok the War Entreaty, which good for you

1216
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: for having your own name. Man, it's so hard, somebody

1217
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: you gotta grab it. I still don't have at Bobby Bones. Yeah,

1218
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: I still have to have mister Bobby Bones. Like I

1219
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: think I'm something someone worthy of having to be called mister. Well,

1220
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 2: that's just putting some respect. But I had to put

1221
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: it on my own name. That's a problem. Ye, nobody

1222
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: else put it. Nobody else put that on. You know

1223
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: that That meme is so funny cause Charlotte and the

1224
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: God it's one of my dear friends and that happened

1225
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: on the Breakfast Club.

1226
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 4: Put some respect on my name.

1227
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: Okay, congratulations guys, really congratulations, and congratulations on I don't know,

1228
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: creating a fighting chance for yourself.

1229
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 4: That's what we're all doing.

1230
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: I still feel like I'm doing the same thing, like

1231
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: my win is still being in the arena, make my

1232
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 2: own story and now, wow, you guys have accomplished that

1233
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: where now you're doing it your own way. You're getting

1234
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: big opportunities and taken advantage of them, and it's really

1235
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: cool to see.

1236
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 4: It's so congratulations.

1237
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: I think artists they get a chance to say these

1238
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: kind of things to you after they've had several successes

1239
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: or record spend or something like that. But I just

1240
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: wanted to tell you something from from me and Tanya.

1241
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: We're massive fans of yours. Even your story, right, your

1242
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: story is very reminiscent of for me, if you took

1243
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: my head off of my shoulders and put them on

1244
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: yours and reversed it, I don't think you could really

1245
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: tell the difference in the stories. But the thing for

1246
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: me is when we were at to operate that time,

1247
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: and when you announced us and and and and told

1248
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: folks that that they were going to feel things, you

1249
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: know like me and I couldn't get myself together because

1250
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: to have somebody massive as you to help validate.

1251
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: Us in the performance space.

1252
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: You know, people get that often from like Ryan Seacrest,

1253
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: or they'll get it from back in the day Dick Clark,

1254
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: and it's like you're our version of this. And to

1255
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: be able to do that for us. You know, it

1256
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: means so much. And you know, I heard Lanny Wilson

1257
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: say this one time. She said, I'm not I know

1258
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know me, but you know,

1259
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: thank you for the opportunity.

1260
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 3: And I promise I.

1261
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: Won't let you down, you know, Ty and I we

1262
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: feel like saying that here, you know, because especially in

1263
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: the temperature of today's society where people don't understand radio personalities,

1264
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: they have to believe in you too in order to

1265
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: help build you. But you know, whatever you believe and

1266
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: feel in Warren Treaty, we don't want to let you down.

1267
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: I don't think we will, you know. And and just

1268
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: thanks for the opportunity to be on your show and

1269
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: to talk to you and let your listeners get a

1270
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: chance to hear us.

1271
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 3: We don't take it light, so.

1272
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.

1273
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 2: And you just have to make a joke and make

1274
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: fun of myself and do some sort of self deprecating

1275
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: humor to get out of the situation. But I'm just

1276
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: gonna say thank you. That's very kind of you. And

1277
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 2: everything I've ever said either here with you guys, or

1278
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: about you guys, or playing you on the Countdown like

1279
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: I mean it.

1280
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 4: I got ten thousand people, I could play.

1281
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: It anytime, and I don't owe anybody any favors, right,

1282
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: and so I get to do what I want to do.

1283
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: And you know the way I talk about you guys,

1284
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 2: You guys now get to create your own story like

1285
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 2: I'm doing that too, and sometimes I choose to do

1286
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: it about you guys because I want to.

1287
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

1288
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, so really.

1289
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: We're it's just the beginning, that's what's crazy. Yeah, it's

1290
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: just the beginning. And you've lived two lives already, you

1291
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 2: live two lives worth the life, and it's just still

1292
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: the beginning.

1293
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 4: That's what's crazy about it.

1294
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 3: I know. Crazy, you've worked so hard.

1295
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: Now you get to really work hard, Like you've worked

1296
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: so hard that now congratulations, it's time to work even harder.

1297
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: But that's like a luxury. The luxury is you get

1298
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: to go into the arena and work even harder. So

1299
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm proud for you guys, And that's you, guys. Go

1300
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: at the Warren Treaty, you guys, hit up Lovers Game

1301
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 2: and mike.

1302
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 4: Anything you want to say before we go.

1303
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 3: This is awesome.

1304
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 4: I don't know how to I'm not good with compliments.

1305
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 4: I don't know how to end it now. I'm just

1306
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 4: kinda like, we just turn it off.

1307
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1308
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, you guys go follow at the Warren

1309
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: Treaty and check out their music, and we'll see you

1310
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: guys soon.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.