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Speaker 1: Dirty Birds. What's up? And welcome to the Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 1: podcast Network. I'm your host Will McFadden. I am joined

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Speaker 1: by Tarren Walk and Tarn We are here to talk

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Speaker 1: about the second OTA practice that we got to view

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Speaker 1: so far this offseason for the Atlanta Falcons. First off,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I got a tan from the OTA

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Speaker 2: practice because it was actually sunny this time and not rainy.

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Speaker 1: Does your hair get more blonde like in the say yes,

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Speaker 1: that is mine. I'm excited for that.

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Speaker 2: I won't wear a hat for that reason. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is my natural highlight.

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Speaker 1: There you go. I sometimes like, actually, I'm gonna shout

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Speaker 1: out Joe Patrick. He turned me on to the popped

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Speaker 1: collar move now for the sunburn like on the back

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Speaker 1: of your neck, because like that's kind of why I'll

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Speaker 1: wear a hat sometimes because I always wear it backwards.

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Speaker 1: It's just to really shade my neck. But now that

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Speaker 1: I can walk around looking like an eighties jock all

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Speaker 1: the time, which is my pollar or collar pops, I

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Speaker 1: may just do that instead for the aesthetics, right, or there.

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Speaker 2: Were these like hats on TikTok, their big bucket hats essentially, yeah,

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Speaker 2: fans in them what and the fans I can face

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Speaker 2: toward your face and I'm like, I might look like

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Speaker 2: a fool, but I'm.

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Speaker 1: It's like the like I might buy one of those

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Speaker 1: beer drinking hats, but they fans attached to them instead.

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Speaker 2: All the tiktoks are like, get this for your dad

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Speaker 2: for father's and I'm like, get this for myself for training?

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Speaker 1: Can get this for me? Right now? What are we doing?

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Speaker 1: We got to stop this podcast. We're going to get

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Speaker 1: some bucket hat fans. All right, Well, I think that's

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Speaker 1: enough of an intro. We do have a little bit

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Speaker 1: of news up at the top about just OTAs and

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Speaker 1: some observations. Then on the second half of the show,

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Speaker 1: I will be joined by Tory mclaney and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about what Jon Robinson's kind of

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Speaker 1: main offseason goal has been, what he's been working towards

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Speaker 1: is he prepares to enter year three and hopefully how

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Speaker 1: it can take Atlanta's offense to another level in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. But first, tarenh, why don't you go ahead

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Speaker 1: and kind of like share with us a little bit

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Speaker 1: about what the plan has been with James Pierce Junior

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Speaker 1: so far to start his own on field work here

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Yes. So on the last podcast, I mentioned how James

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Speaker 2: Pierce Junior was not participating in the eleven eleven work

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Speaker 2: and that was true, and so yesterday on well this

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Speaker 2: will be yesterday on Monday, when we got to speak

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Speaker 2: to Raheem Morris again since that practice, I asked if

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Speaker 2: that was by nature on purpose or kind of like

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Speaker 2: what's going on there? And he explained that it is

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Speaker 2: on purpose because they are quote ramping him up, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's just a different it's just a different

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Speaker 2: route that they're taking with him compared to Jalen Walker.

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Speaker 2: And I think I naturally just lumped the two together

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Speaker 2: because they're both first round edge rushers. Yeah, and you

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Speaker 2: can't mention Jalen without James sometimes that and Jalen was

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Speaker 2: taking first team reps during eleven eleven like not a lot,

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Speaker 2: but enough where you're like, oh, noting that. And then

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Speaker 2: while James Pierce Junior is on the sideline. So it

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Speaker 2: was just a different of planning there because now with James,

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Speaker 2: Raheem said that James was participating in a eleven eleven

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Speaker 2: work during practices that weren't open to the media because

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Speaker 2: even though I am employed by the Falcons, I do

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Speaker 2: not get to watch every single practice. I'm still limited

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Speaker 2: to the open practices, and so I did not see

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Speaker 2: James Pierce Junior participating in these team exercises during close practices,

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Speaker 2: I'm only seeing what we're seeing as a media hole.

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Speaker 2: And so then on Monday, during the second open practice,

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Speaker 2: you did see James Pierce Junior out there and getting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think so ramping up is something that

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Speaker 1: you know, when I was here previously with Dan Quinn,

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Speaker 1: that was a phrase you would hear a lot. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: it was about an injured player and kind of coming back,

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Speaker 1: That's a developing NFL player or you know a practice

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Speaker 1: like you see the flashes, but with an NFL player

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Speaker 1: Like that's the progression that you see. But even amongst rookies,

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Speaker 1: And jam wien Walker is another good example, coming from

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Speaker 1: that James Pierce doesn't know what he's doing or is

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Speaker 1: a step behind anybody in any shape or form, but

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Speaker 1: it it is just to say that not all of

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Speaker 1: these guys enter the NFL on ex exactly the same

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Speaker 1: starting point, same playing field, same foundation of knowledge. They're

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Speaker 1: all getting taught at different places, learning from different coaches.

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Speaker 1: And different programs, and you got to assimilate in your team.

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Speaker 1: So that was a big kind of stress point for

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Speaker 1: Raheem in his talks with the media so far, is

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Speaker 1: a lot of this is just seeing what the rookies

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Speaker 1: know and then teaching them how to practice, because when

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Speaker 1: they put him out there for eleven on eleven work,

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Speaker 1: they want every single rep to not just matter for

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Speaker 1: that individual player, but for all of the other twenty

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Speaker 1: otherwise the whole rep might suffer for it. So I

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Speaker 1: think that that's kind of why we maybe saw what

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Speaker 1: he's also hinted it a little bit of a unique

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Speaker 2: He has a different plan than Jalen because even thinking

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Speaker 2: They have a specific plan in place for Jalen Walker.

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Speaker 1: They're tearing him back. Yeah, exactly, so that might make

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a silly analogy just came to mind, naturally.

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Speaker 1: Love it.

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Speaker 2: You could have, like, say, Jalen Walker as an apple

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Speaker 2: and then James Pierce Junior as an orange. They're both fruit,

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Speaker 2: but you eat him at different times and for different reasons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely one is not better than the other. It's

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Speaker 1: just one might be you know, you want my one

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Speaker 1: orange slice it the halftime of a soccer match, and

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Speaker 2: Might want an apple before run in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Love it perfect. One other thing that I thought was interesting,

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Speaker 1: just to wrap up the James Piers Junior kind of conversation,

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Speaker 1: was what Raheem had to say about kind of like

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Speaker 1: the rookie mentorship and pairings and just over the years

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Speaker 1: seeing players kind of naturally gravitate towards one another, whether

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Speaker 1: it be because they have like personalities or played the

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Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting who they have kind

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Speaker 1: of James Pierce Junior connecting with do you want to

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Speaker 2: Right, not the same position group, which isn't uncommon, but.

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Speaker 1: He Raheem Morris just kind of said that personality wise,

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Speaker 1: he sensed a similarity in those two, and honestly, it

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Speaker 1: made perfect sense. A. J. Trell was here as a

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Speaker 1: I too kind of got exactly what Raheem was saying.

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Speaker 1: He came in as a very experienced rookie who had

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Speaker 1: played in a lot of National Chapsampionship games against some

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Speaker 1: But I thought that was that was really fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And we got to talk to A. J. Trell

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Speaker 2: Junior but too. And someone even brought up the pre

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Speaker 2: draft process flags about like James's character that kind of

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Speaker 2: just circulated and AJ's like, what were the flags? Like

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Speaker 2: he seemed like genuinely shocked too. He's like, Okay, give

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Speaker 2: He's like, I got nothing bad to say, and right

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Speaker 2: where he's like, well.

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Speaker 1: Why, honestly, I what that tells me is that Ajterrell

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Speaker 1: is not reading a single bit of drafts content. And

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Speaker 1: I love that for him. I love that for you, Aj.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's pivot to Kyle Pits. We also learned

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Speaker 1: on Monday that Kyle Pits is dealing with an injury

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Speaker 1: of some sort Raheem Morris would not specify exactly what

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Speaker 1: that is. There are reports out there that that's say,

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Speaker 1: it could be a foot again Rheem Morris won't specify,

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Speaker 1: so we won't either.

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Speaker 2: I love when people talk about injuries. Sometimes this is

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Speaker 2: a quick side note where you just say, like a.

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Speaker 1: Foot, right, he's got a hip, he's got an upper arm.

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Speaker 1: We all do, thank you, coach. But yeah, no, that's

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Speaker 1: always been one of my favorite quirks as well. So

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Speaker 1: that is, yes, he just has an undisclosed asterisk injury.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been out there on the field. Don't expect

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Speaker 1: what happens when training camp rolls around. But you know, Taren,

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Speaker 1: I just kind of thought that we might talk about, like,

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Speaker 1: what is a reasonable expectation for Kyle Pitts going into

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Speaker 1: year five here in Atlanta, because it seems like every

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Speaker 1: year the expectations slowly build throughout the offseason and then

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Speaker 1: you know, last year there were moments where I genuinely

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Speaker 1: culminated with that two touchdown game in Tampa Bay last year.

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Speaker 1: So are you looking almost at the number of touchdowns

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Speaker 2: But right, because just because he's not on the practice field,

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Speaker 2: he Morris has said, quote, he's been here, He's done

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Speaker 2: There was a fight. I get excited over this kind

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Speaker 2: So I didn't see the actual fight breakout. I don't

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Speaker 2: You could even see Matthew Bergeron talking with Terry Foutnau

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Speaker 1: I loved everything about that moment out there on the

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Speaker 2: You and I watched that fight from completely different point

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's like a light paint, the rose colored glasses.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm like the little girl who has a smirk

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Speaker 1: It was no matter which way you look at it,

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Speaker 1: But it's still off season. We'd'll have to be in

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Speaker 1: thank you for breaking down the second OTA media practice,

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Speaker 1: and we will catch up with you very soon again

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Speaker 1: to get into mini camp and that'll take a little

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Speaker 4: Who all right, y'all, what's up. Don't worry, We're fine.

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Speaker 4: But now Will is in a different seat over here,

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Speaker 4: and I'm in this seat. Taren is out and about

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Speaker 5: Story she vanished's but we're back.

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Speaker 2: I'm back.

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Speaker 4: I've been out for a couple of days celebrating my

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Speaker 4: along with this story. So first things first, off the top,

436
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 4: why was this a story that you wanted to tell?

437
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 5: And kind of where did the idea of the story

438
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Speaker 5: come from for you?

439
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 1: Honestly, it came to me like it just it happened organically,

440
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: because I think part of the role of any journalists,

441
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of great ones that cover

442
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 1: this team, is just to kind of be open and listen.

443
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 1: Because one of the more interesting aspects I think of

444
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 1: this job that you don't understand until you are in

445
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,239
Speaker 1: that situation and fighting against it is the tendency to

446
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: really just focus on the next question you're gonna ask, yeah,

447
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,719
Speaker 1: and kind of get in your own head and you

448
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: hear your own voice a little bit more than maybe

449
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: the person or the coach that you're talking to. And

450
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: this was just kind of a one on one with

451
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: me and Michael Petree is where it started. And I

452
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Speaker 1: was like, I kind of know what I'm just gonna

453
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Speaker 1: ask you about. I'm just gonna ask you about Jean. Well,

454
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm not like running through all of these questions in

455
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Speaker 1: my head, and it was just a real open conversation,

456
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: and so that allowed me to really just absorb what

457
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 1: he was saying, and it stuck out. I was like, man,

458
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Speaker 1: you guys are really focused on Bajehan Robinson extending some

459
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Speaker 1: of these twelve yard runs fifteen yard runs into thirty

460
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: yard runs, fifty yard runs, and so start doing a

461
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: little bit of digging and the numbers bear that out.

462
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: It's like, as good as Bajon Robinson was last year,

463
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Speaker 1: there is still a clear area for him to improve.

464
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Speaker 1: And that's kind of where this story came about. Was like,

465
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: that's that's the one thing left for him to check off.

466
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Speaker 1: And if he does, then yeah, I mean he's already

467
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Speaker 1: even higher in that like elites here, which is already

468
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Speaker 1: in right. So that's what's so crazy about this is

469
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: few elite elite players really do still have like that

470
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: one clear box left to check. Yeah.

471
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Speaker 4: It's interesting too because as you literally simultaneously, as you're

472
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Speaker 4: having this conversation with Michael Petrie, who's the Falcons running

473
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Speaker 4: backs coach, I'm in a separate conversation with offensive coordinators

474
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 4: Zach Robinson about this very thing about how they want

475
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 4: to take Bajon's game to the next level by way

476
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Speaker 4: of explosives and being able to figure out ways to

477
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Speaker 4: get him there. And I think what's really interesting about

478
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Speaker 4: this is you're talking about Jon's ability, and I know

479
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 4: Zach Robinson has talked about Raheem Morris like his ability.

480
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Speaker 5: To make people miss is second to nine.

481
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's pretty remarkable to watch what he

482
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 4: does out on the football field. It's kind of this

483
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 4: like artwork. It's like an art form what he does.

484
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Speaker 4: But what is really interesting is they all have said

485
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Speaker 4: the same thing. All these coaches have said the same thing,

486
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Speaker 4: that there is a next step to that elusiveness. And

487
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Speaker 4: you wrote about this in your conversations with them. What

488
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Speaker 4: is that next step?

489
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's something where I think a lot

490
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: of people would look at all, Right, you're just natural

491
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: god given speed as something you can't you can't coach.

492
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Speaker 1: You either are somebody, Yeah, you're somebody who's capable of

493
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Speaker 1: taking it seventy yards to the house, or you're not.

494
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Speaker 1: But that's partially true, right, you know, I do think

495
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: you know Usain Bolt, I'm never going to reach him, right,

496
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: as much as I practice and try, you can tie

497
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: parachute to my back, I'm not getting there. But it's

498
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: more about the actual technique of making somebody miss, which

499
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Speaker 1: you've mentioned Bijon does as well as literally anybody finished

500
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Speaker 1: second only Derrick Henry with ninety nine force miss tackles

501
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: last season. But it's kind of like that last guy

502
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: when you get into open field and maybe you're not

503
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: stringing together a chain of moves, which I think Bijon

504
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 1: is second to literally nobody, like not even Derrick Henry

505
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Speaker 1: in that his ability to keep the kinetic chain flowing

506
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: and just cut, cut, cut, stop, cut, accelerate, like all

507
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: of that in the blink and eye is so good.

508
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 1: But one thing that Zach said was when you kind

509
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Speaker 1: of have that free safety, how do we not make

510
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: that move too early, which allows the angle to be

511
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: a little bit easier for the defender to then kind

512
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Speaker 1: of cut you off and recover and maybe ultimately make

513
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Speaker 1: your tackle. If you can get right up on him

514
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: and close that gap quickly, that is going to make

515
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: the decision and reaction time much quicker for that defender

516
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: because you know where you're going, he's got to react,

517
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: so you close that reaction time. And then if you

518
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: are as elusive as Bajon is that's really all you

519
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: need if you can just get up on a one

520
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: yard margin between him and that defender, boom like you're gone.

521
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Speaker 1: And so it is there is some technique to this,

522
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: and there is some you don't want to be thinking like.

523
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Speaker 1: That's one of the things the Bajeon has always said, No,

524
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Speaker 1: I don't think when I'm out there. I just trust

525
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: my instincts, I feel it, I go. But it is

526
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Speaker 1: something you can practice out here on the practice field,

527
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: in training camp, during OTA's mini camp, things like that.

528
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: So that is kind of how they are actively working

529
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 1: with Bijon to say, okay, you got everything else, here's

530
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Speaker 1: like the last piece of the puzzle to add.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost kind of like making it to your point.

532
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 4: It's making the move closer to the point of contact

533
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 4: versus toes, yes, presses toes.

534
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Speaker 2: That's what That was the.

535
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Speaker 4: Phrase that Zach Robinson used, which I loved. So when

536
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Speaker 4: you're talking to Vinson about this and you're kind of like, hey,

537
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 4: the coaches are saying that this is a goal of

538
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 4: yours in twenty twenty five, what is his response to that.

539
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Speaker 1: Uh, He's been working on this every single day. Yeah, right, Yeah,

540
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 1: so it sounds like he is one hundred percent on

541
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Speaker 1: board as well. And you know, he is the type

542
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Speaker 1: of player where we talked to him last year he said,

543
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Speaker 1: I watched Alan Iverson for some of my elusiveness and

544
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Speaker 1: just to draw inspiration. So he is somebody who is

545
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Speaker 1: creative in the way that he tries to improve and

546
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: in the way that he studies other athletes. You know,

547
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Speaker 1: he didn't get into anybody specifically that he's watching, right,

548
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: He's not turning on the Usain Bolt tape because I

549
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: don't know what that would afford him. But he the

550
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: favorite or my favorite quote from him that is the

551
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Speaker 1: first one in the story is we're done with thirty

552
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Speaker 1: yard runs. You know, now it's time to get those

553
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Speaker 1: sixty yards fifty yards again. If you're looking at where

554
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: Beajon ranks in twenty plus yard runs, it is kind

555
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: of right up there with what or sorry, ten yard runs.

556
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: It's right up there with guys like Saquon, guys like

557
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: Jamiir Gibbs, guys like Derrick Henry, right, the best of

558
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: the best. Then if you look at twenty plus yard runs,

559
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: he drops back to like seventeenth.

560
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So what's interesting is you did have in here.

561
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 4: Three players with more explosive runs than Robinson last year

562
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 4: were Derrick Henry who had thirty seven, Jamiir Gibbs, who

563
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: had thirty four, in Saquon Barkley, who had thirty. Each

564
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Speaker 4: of those three players also had a carry that gained

565
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Speaker 4: at least seventy yards, while Bajon's longest run in twenty twenty.

566
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Speaker 5: Four was thirty seven yards.

567
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Speaker 4: So there is a discrepancy in I think the to

568
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: your point, like a thirty plus yard gain is still

569
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Speaker 4: an explosive but there you're looking at these guys getting

570
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Speaker 4: fifty plus.

571
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're often has to stay on the field most

572
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: times after a thirty yard game, right, Yeah, after a

573
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Speaker 1: seventy yard game, probably not right, you know, most most

574
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Speaker 1: chances are that you're getting off the field because that's touchdown.

575
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Speaker 1: And so I think Bijon offers as high a floor

576
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: as any running back in the league. When you give

577
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Speaker 1: the ball, there's as good a chance as with any

578
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Speaker 1: player that it is going to be an eight yard

579
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: gain or a ten yard gain. But his ceiling right now,

580
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Speaker 1: when you're looking at some of the other very best

581
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: ones in terms of distance gained on these runs, isn't

582
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: as high as where you would expect it to be,

583
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: So that is simply what is left to add to that,

584
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: and that does involve more than just Beajon. It does

585
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: involve the offensive lineman sustaining blocks, maybe the receivers getting

586
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: to that second level ceiling off those alleys. Again, like,

587
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm very confident that this is going to improve in

588
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five because all of the pieces are in

589
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: place for it to get better. So all that was

590
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: left was really for them to just emphasize it and

591
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: focus on it. We saw how much better Bajon's pass

592
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: blocking got in year two because he was focused on that.

593
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: So given that we saw that improvement, I'm pretty optimistic

594
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Speaker 1: that we'll see some improvement here as well.

595
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Speaker 4: It's interesting because we're talking about Bajon in the upper

596
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 4: echelon of running backs in the league and we have

597
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 4: since he's been in the league, and like this is

598
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 4: just the next step of his development. You know, we're

599
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: talking about Bejon and it's kind of like your nitpicking

600
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 4: is game a little bit, but I think that's what

601
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: you do with these players.

602
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, the best players allow for the nitpicks. Yeah, because

603
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: it's so you know, there's not such a clear detriment

604
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: in his game. It's just like, how are we just

605
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: getting a little bit better, a little bit better and

606
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: we go from a ninety eight to a ninety nine

607
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: to a one hundred, Like that's what we're talking about

608
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: with Jon.

609
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I really, as I said off the top,

610
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Speaker 4: I really enjoyed this piece that you wrote, which everybody

611
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: can check it out on Atlanta Falcons dot com.

612
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Speaker 5: Make sure and go read it.

613
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Speaker 4: I would honestly recommend following along as we're talking about this,

614
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 4: pull it up, read it for yourself. But what was

615
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 4: something interesting that you maybe found as you were going

616
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: through this this case study on where Beajon's game goes

617
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 4: from here? Was there anything that kind of stuck out

618
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 4: to you as like, oh, that's an interesting tidbit of information.

619
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Speaker 1: You know, I think all of the interesting stuff because

620
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: of what we just talked about, like he is so

621
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: fleshed out that there's nothing to this level that he's

622
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: really gonna be working on. What I'm kind of interested in.

623
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Speaker 1: What we touched on a little bit with Petrie as well,

624
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: was the other aspect is still beyond the pass catcher,

625
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: And that was something when he was drafted and coming

626
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: out of Texas, really everybody was like, that's his superpower

627
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: is like he can run these routes like a receiver.

628
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: And remember he was working with I think it was

629
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: Devonte Adams like as a rookie kind of that summer

630
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Speaker 1: between the draft and then getting here in Atlanta, And

631
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: I asked Petrie, like, does a change in offensive design

632
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Speaker 1: because I think one of the biggest changes going from

633
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith's era to Rahee Morrison Zach Robinson is is

634
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: the way that these route concepts all work together. Like

635
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: does that sometimes impact the vision that you almost had

636
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: for a player, where like Bijon in one offense as

637
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: a pass catcher may be different in a different offense.

638
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: And so that is something that he wouldn't get too

639
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: deep into it is you might expect a coach isn't

640
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: gonna reveal too much trade secrets there. But just one

641
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: other note for fans to kind of maybe keep an

642
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: eye on in training camp in the preseason. I don't

643
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: know how much Runjon is going to get in the preseason, frankly,

644
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: but just keep it on the back burner. I guess

645
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: this season is how is Bijon used as a pass

646
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: catcher in this offense specifically, because I do still think

647
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: that what we saw last year was great. If you're

648
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: looking for ways to build upon it, there is some

649
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: avenue there. And think back to the Washington game, that

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Speaker 1: misconnection between Panics Andjon that's probably going for like a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: He talked about explosives. That's one, right now, that's one.

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Speaker 4: And that was the one that I was going to

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Speaker 4: bring up in this conversation, is like, Okay, there's this

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Speaker 4: little will route and it's gonna be probably a thirty

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Speaker 4: forty yard and to your point, it could potentially be

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Speaker 4: a touchdown. Bajon doesn't have the cushion to the sideline.

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Speaker 1: You know, you always oh, that's the one against Carolina Carolina. Yea, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a great example too.

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Speaker 4: It's this will route and he's coming down the sideline,

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Speaker 4: his the defenders on his back hip. He's in good position,

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Speaker 4: but he's right up against.

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Speaker 1: His side of his own cushion, eat up his.

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Speaker 4: Own cushion to the point where, if you're Michael Pennix,

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Speaker 4: that's a difficult throat, which he nails.

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Speaker 1: He hits that throw, go back and watch it. It's

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Speaker 1: like right in the bread basket.

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Speaker 4: But if Bejon was a half yard away from the sideline,

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Speaker 4: that's a catch instead of catching it out of bounds.

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Speaker 4: And that's kind of that's on Beajon, And that's one

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Speaker 4: of those things to your point about how his role

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Speaker 4: expanding as a pass catcher, that's an area you you

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Speaker 4: turn on that right there, that's an easy adjustment to make. Hey, Bjon,

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Speaker 4: make sure that you're not to the boundary. Give Michael

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Speaker 4: Penix a little in yourself, a little bit of cushion

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Speaker 4: to where he's not throwing this to you with one

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Speaker 4: foot out of bounds. He's throwing this to you in

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Speaker 4: step with about this much away from from the sideline.

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Speaker 4: That to me is like exactly what you're talking about

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Speaker 4: is like an easy tweak. That is the difference in

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Speaker 4: a out of bounds, they're an incompletion and Michael Pennocks

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Speaker 4: connecting to Bejon Robinson for a forty five yard game downfield.

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Speaker 1: So that's a wrap. I couldn't do it any better.

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Speaker 1: I literally couldn't say it any better. That was that like,

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Speaker 1: good night, everybody, go home, drive safe.

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Speaker 4: Perfect, Yeah, perfectly said, thank you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: I'll be here all day. But but yeah, no will.

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Speaker 4: I thank you so much for sitting down and switching

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Speaker 4: seats and letting me come in and talk to you

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Speaker 4: a little bit about this this story. I again, I

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Speaker 4: cannot recommend enough that people go read it.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, go back and watch some of.

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Speaker 4: Bajon's long runs and kind of see what it is

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Speaker 4: that we're talking about. That's something else that I would

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Speaker 4: recommend people do along with reading the stories, go back

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Speaker 4: and watch bajons highlights from twenty twenty four so that

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Speaker 4: you can actually see what we're talking about. You can

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Speaker 4: look at all of those on our YouTube channel Atlanta

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Speaker 4: Falcons or Atlanta Falcons dot com.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, just go Google.

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Speaker 1: It's giving me a story idea. I'm like, should we

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Speaker 1: do an essential clips just like the things to get

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Speaker 1: you ready for the whatever? Maybe no free ideas.

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Speaker 5: No free ideas. Yeah, maybe check back in let us

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Speaker 5: out of the podcast. No, but thank you guys so

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Speaker 5: much for joining us.

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Speaker 4: We have a rookie minie or not rookie municant mandatory

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Speaker 4: minute tamp is coming up very very soon. I believe

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Speaker 4: starting next week, we will be there from start to

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Speaker 4: finish and.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully we'll get to see some of some really cool things.

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Speaker 4: I know we're already I've already really enjoyed watching Michael

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Speaker 4: Pennocks and Drake London's connection, and.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure we will talk more about that at a

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Speaker 5: later date.

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Speaker 5: get your podcasts.

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Speaker 4: For Will McFadden, I'm Tory mclaney, and for tern Walk

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Speaker 4: who was here earlier. Thank you guys so much, and

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Speaker 4: we will talk to you very soon