1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to episode two thirty seven. Hey, by the way, 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: if you missed the talk with Lionel Richie, go back 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in episode Pretty cool. Let's just talk to Lionel Richie. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Pretty cool, and I can talk to Line American idolds 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: his friend, but pretty cool to get the nerd out 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: and ask him about stuff that you know, you just 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: don't ask friends real career interview type questions when you're 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: hanging out. Mostly it's like, hey, how is that lunch. 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: It's never like, yo, dude, tell me about nineteen seven 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: to nine. He's like, the one impression. I can do 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: that because I do spend enough time with Line Richie 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: where I can. Here you go, my friend, let me 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: tell you it was nineteen eighty one. The commodores were 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: blowing up the charts. So it's like the one impression 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: that I do a better hand than Luke. But go 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: back an episode if you want. You know, I don't 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: know what you're doing, probably quarantined in. Maybe listen to 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: the podcast if you want to check out Amy's it's 19 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: called Four Things with Amy Brown. Kelly Henderson has the 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: Velvet's Edge podcast kind of style and uh, you know 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: what a life podcast. It's called The Velvet's Edge. And 22 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: check out Caroline Hobbies. You know, she has one called 23 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: What's Up? Get Real? Get Real? There there it is. 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: I was watching her Instagram today and her husband was 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: playing a song. I think he was gonna play do 26 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: one of these acoustic songs everybody's doing and uh, he 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: starts to play and there's a snake under him on 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: the picnic table. She just freaks out and takes off running. 29 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: Pretty funny, but I'll jokes aside. Check out Get Real 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: with Caroline Hobby, pretty cool where she talks to a 31 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: lot of the wives of country stars, interesting, interesting ideas, 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: talks a lot of really strong women, but wives of 33 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: country stars too. This as you know his music podcast. 34 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: What's great about this one this episode is that since 35 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: everybody's quarantined in, I can basically just go like, yo, 36 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: you want to talk and they're like why not. So 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: we got Matt Ramsey from Old Dominion coming up, who 38 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: was going to be in for the first time, but 39 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: Corona Scare got us. And then Brett Young who first 40 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: time to catch up with him. I did had seen 41 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: he was living on his tour bus because his wife 42 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: and daughter are in his house. And he didn't want 43 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: to get him sick. But he can tell you that 44 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: story coming up. So I'm I liked this episode. It's 45 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: two artists, Brett Young first, Matt Ramsey from Old Dominion second. 46 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: And if you like this and you don't mind, share 47 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: this and tell your friends and give us a five 48 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: star rating before we go, and let me encourage you 49 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: to check out Mike's podcast. 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How you 79 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: doing just the same thing to ground day over here? 80 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: Like everybody? You know, I saw some of the stuff 81 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: we're on your tour bus. Are you out there for 82 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: a reason so you don't get your wife in kids sick? 83 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: Or what's the story behind that? Yeah? Because we we 84 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: we were out and we were at that festival in Europe, 85 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: and one of the shows was in Berlin, like right 86 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: when the big outbreak hit over there, and so like 87 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: when I got home, you know, we came home early 88 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: because the travel band hit halfway into our trip. But 89 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: I just had been to like Amsterdam, Berlin, Stockholm, and Oslo, 90 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: and I've been on like six planes, and I was 91 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: just like, you know, if this can take fourteen minutes 92 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: or fourteen days for symptence the show, I feel fine now, 93 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: but what if I start having symptoms and I'm already 94 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: holding my baby and sleeping in bed with my wife, 95 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: and I just didn't want to take the root. How 96 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: mature of you? Yeah, well I can fake it sometimes. Hey, 97 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: what was that like? When you're in Europe and you know, 98 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: in the early part of Corona and we're kind of 99 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: figuring out that it's a pretty real thing, and you 100 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: know some of our institutions are going to be moved 101 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: because of it, and you're out of the country. What 102 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: happens to you while you're over there? Yeah, I was 103 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: pretty scary. The second show was was Berlin, and the 104 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: afternoon of the show, like three o'clock, their government came 105 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: out and said like no gatherings. I think it was 106 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: five hundred at the time or bigger, and I don't 107 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: know how because that was at three o'clock. We still 108 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: played the show I headlined, I think was like four 109 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: thousand people. So I don't really that was kind of 110 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: scary because they're saying it's not safe to have that 111 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: big of a group and we're just playing our show anyways. Um, 112 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: but I think, you know, as it went on, that 113 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: was the beginning of of other governments starting to do 114 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: you put that restriction on on public gatherings and stuff. 115 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: And by the time we were in Offlow, we had 116 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: one club show left before we were going to go 117 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: to the UK and play the other big three arena shows, 118 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: and like an hour before the show, their government came 119 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: out and said, uh, like fifty people are less and 120 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: we're going, okay, this is this is like we're being 121 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: irresponsible by staying over here, and so we actually booked 122 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: our flights home like two hours before Trump came out 123 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: with the travel band. So it was it was I mean, 124 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it's I think people over here think 125 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: that it's a little bit crazier over in Europe. It 126 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: felt kind of the same everybody's anxiety. Um, it's kind 127 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: of palpable, just like it is here right now. Um. 128 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: But it was just weird to not be home and 129 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: know that you were running the risk of maybe getting 130 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: stuck over there. Did you ask how much those flights 131 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: cost to get back or did you just go get me? Dude, 132 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: I know how much they cost. It was. It was 133 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 1: definitely a low blow. Yeah, you don't want to share. 134 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, honestly, I don't wanna. It's it's well, 135 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: it's hey. I will say this because we booked ours 136 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: two hours before the travel band. We got them before 137 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: they went up to like an unreasonable number. I know 138 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: some people that waited. Um, I know ours. Ours doubled 139 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: from when we bought them to two hours later. And 140 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: who makes that call in your group? Was it you going, hey, 141 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: we got to go? Uh? It was we had our 142 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: finger on that button the whole time. And it was 143 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: the club shows I was playing in Stockholm and Aslo 144 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: were just me and my music records are just two guitars, 145 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: little acoustic clubs and uh so my manager was actually 146 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: on that run. There were just four of us and 147 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: it was kind of me and my manager, like watching 148 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: the news on the regular. But we both looked at 149 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: each other when the when the bosload we're at the 150 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: venue in the show got canceled and we went we 151 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: gotta go. It was like we like, you know, you 152 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: make eye contact, attack with somebody and you know you're 153 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: on the same page. It was one of those deals. 154 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean he wouldn't he wouldn't have pulled 155 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: that trigger without me. Um, But it was something that 156 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: we knew was a possibility the whole time. So you 157 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: get off the plane, and since you knew all this 158 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: was happening, you didn't hug your wife or kiss your 159 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: baby or anything like that. No, So all I did 160 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: was I went home. I left all my luggage, my backpack, 161 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: my suitcase, uh, everything in the garage because it can 162 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: live on surfaces for three days. I undressed in the garage, UM, showered, 163 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: through my towels, straight into the laundry, through stuff in 164 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: a bag, and drove to the bus. What are you 165 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: doing for food? Is it not the stock? You don't have, 166 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: like I mean, maybe cheerios from bus stock, But I like, well, 167 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: how you eating? Um? We had some stuff. I had 168 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: probably two days worth of food. Um, but then I've 169 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: been doing instat cart like grocery orders and just having 170 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: them leave it outside the bus and then wiping down 171 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: every item with wipes, one at a time before I 172 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: put it bring it into the bus. I'm assuming you 173 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: feel all right healthy, right? Just yeah, you're almost done. 174 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: You're almost done with that? Yeah, I feel I don't 175 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: have any symptoms. And uh, you know, when I've decided 176 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: to do this, they were still saying it takes five 177 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: days to show them them, and then on day two 178 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: they changed it to fourteen, and I was like, oh no, 179 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: so I thought I was five days. Joke was on me, 180 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: Are you doing any solo riding while you're on the bus. 181 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: I've kind of messed with it a little bit, but 182 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm you know, with everything that's going on, and like 183 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: there's a ton of business decisions to be made right 184 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: now as shows are getting postponed and moved and all 185 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: of that. That, Like, I've kind of it's been hard 186 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: to put on the creative hat. I definitely have a 187 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: guitar in here that I've been like fooling around with, 188 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: and it usually ends up just not going anywhere because 189 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: I got too many other things on my mind. So, um, 190 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: once I get home and I've got a WiFi situation, 191 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start doing like virtual rights and stuff. But 192 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: I just I haven't really been I haven't really had 193 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: the book to be creative. If you don't have WiFi 194 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: or a strong signal, are you able to watch Netflix? Yeah? 195 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: So luckily, Um, the streaming things not happening. But our 196 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: direct TV package has like all the movie channels. So 197 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: I've I've seen every movie in the world. Now, well, 198 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: what's good? What do you watch? It was good because 199 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm struggling now a little bit. Except for Tiger King 200 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: on Netflix. I'm just searching around. Yeah, I've so once 201 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: I get home, Tiger King's My wife's already started and 202 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: she's digging it. Um. You know, I don't know if 203 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: you follow my socials, but one day I literally watched 204 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: all of the Rockies in one day. That was great. 205 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: What's the best one? Because I have my feelings best 206 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: Rocky best one. Yeah, we'll both pick one. Which which 207 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: is the best Rocky? It's hard to say, but I 208 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: think Rocky four with the Russian of the favorite me too. 209 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: I'm I'm okay, let's go to the second best one 210 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: and you can put the Creeds in there if you want, 211 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: what's the second best Rocky. So, honestly, if if we 212 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: can do Creeds, so like all of them, including Rocky 213 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: Balboa and Creeds, right yeah, I would go Rocky four, 214 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: then the first Creed, then Rocky two. Interesting, I think 215 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: I put the first Creed second as well. Rocky two 216 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: is good because he wins right like, no, it's not 217 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: spoiler alert, folks, if you're on there, this first Rocky 218 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: was made in so if you don't watched it by now, 219 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: I just suck it up because he loses the first 220 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: one to Apollo, right yeah, they they're in the hospital, yeah, 221 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: on a on a decision, right yes, and then he 222 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: wins again because Apolo isn't satisfied with that, And so 223 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: then three is the awful one with whole Kogan and 224 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: Mr T. I didn't really like that one that much, 225 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: does you? No? No, no, not at all. And I 226 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: didn't really care for the one and you may like 227 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: this one, but the one where Tommy Morrison comes, I 228 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: don't know that I love that one. I liked it, 229 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: I don't know that I loved it though. Yeah, Rocky Balboa, 230 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: that was fun. What do you think about the one 231 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: where he comes back and he's old. What was that 232 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: one called? That was? What was that one called? I 233 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: think Rocky five was with Tommy Morrison. I think Rocky 234 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: Balboa is where he comes back and fights you're you 235 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: are correct? You are correct? Yeah, Rocky Balbo is the 236 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: one when he comes back and he and they did 237 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: the virtual fight and then and then they went to 238 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: Vegas and fought him. Uh yeah, it's pushing it at 239 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: that point. It was already pushing it with Rocky five, 240 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: He's already too old for that to be believable. But 241 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: with Rocky Blabbo, I was like, guys, come on, I 242 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: was thinking about what was that whole Like, if you 243 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: fight again, you could die. But then he passes all 244 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: his text tests and gets cleared by the boxing concision. 245 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: If you go through the physical, you're not gonna die. 246 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: That's the whole point of the physical Like yeah, So, 247 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: and I also struggled a bit with this second creed 248 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: and that I started rooting a bit for the Russian 249 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: Sun because he was not treated well all and he 250 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: was only like he was because he was treated like garbage. Yeah, 251 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: and you felt bad for him that his mom abandoned 252 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: him to Yeah, and so I didn't really know. And 253 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: then Creed is all like rich I like Creed One. 254 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: By the way, I loved Creed one. I liked Creed too. 255 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: How do you fall on those two? Yes? Same one 256 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: was better? Yeah. Have you seen the Godfather movies? Because 257 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: those are movies I have not got into. I've never 258 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: seen them. But just like you watched Rockies, I've been 259 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: thinking about hopping into the Godfather. Yeah. Yeah, it's been 260 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: years and years. I haven't revisited him. But like like 261 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: back in college, Um, yeah, I like them. I I 262 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: would put I'd rather watch gar Face than Godfather. I've 263 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: never seen that one either. But scar Face is that 264 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: a series or just one movie? Um? If they did 265 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: more than one, I don't know about it. How it is. 266 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean well, I mean I'm not to not to 267 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: ruin it for you, but the way the first one ends, 268 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how they could well, and it's not 269 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: ruining if any movies over fifteen years old, you know, 270 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: it's his on me to have not seen it. Well, 271 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: that's interesting. What else they just they just they fill 272 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: them with bullets over a giant pile of cocaine on 273 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: his desk in his house. That's how like that's the end? 274 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: So well, Mike, should I still watch it? Then? It's 275 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: the know the ending? Yeah, Okay, great movie. Okay, okay, 276 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: but you definitely should watch it. I think you should 277 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: watch it. He's he's it's it's like a it's a 278 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: full blown, like gory gangster movie that is hilarious. Al 279 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: Pacino is hilarious. So what else are you doing in 280 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: the bust chalk about business? Are you trying to figure 281 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: out how to reschedule these shows and what you're gonna 282 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: do whenever we do come back. Yeah, that's a big 283 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: part of it. You know. Our big thing is that 284 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: we don't want to cancel anything, so it's all about 285 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: trying to move them and and and we also don't 286 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: want to make announcements that they're moved or postponed until 287 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: we know where we put them. So we're trying to 288 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: actually get them on the books for a different date 289 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: before we even let anybody know for sure that it's 290 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: not happening. So it's tricky because you know, really everybody 291 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: that's having to cancel anything or move anything March April 292 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: is all trying to squeeze them into November Tocember, so 293 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: you have every act in the business trying to find 294 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: venues for those last six to eight weeks and so it's, uh, 295 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: it's been it's been pretty interesting, but um but yeah, 296 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of that, and there's you know, you know, 297 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: there's all of us carry like a pretty big load 298 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: of rentals, whether it's like buses or semi trucks or 299 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: musical equipment and stuff, and trying to figure come to, 300 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, some sort of agreement with these companies that 301 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, hey, you can add X amount of months 302 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: on the end of our contract if you give us 303 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: a break right now while nobody's making money and just 304 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: try to just try. We're trying to stretch, stretch what 305 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: we have out as long as we can so in 306 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: case this thing goes longer than we think it will. Um, 307 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: because nobody knows that will still be around and be 308 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: able to afford to get back on the road. And 309 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: no tickets the chapters tour available now, I guess a 310 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: good thing is it wasn't supposed to kick off to 311 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: April sixt right, and we're not there yet. So if 312 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: you don't have to make a decision, why would you 313 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking about in your place right now. You can 314 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: kind of sit for a little bit, right, Yeah, I 315 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: mean we so we that's the second half of it. 316 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: So unfortunately, uh, you know, there was a there was 317 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: a date at the end of March that in Arkansas 318 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: that we had to move already. Um, and there were 319 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: uh and then and then the second half started on 320 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: the sixteenth, and so yeah, like like you said, hopefully, 321 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, in a perfect world, May one is what 322 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: we're looking at to get back on track. And they're 323 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: saying that's the earliest, and that August is the latest. 324 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm hoping for the earliest. But you know, even if 325 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: they even if Trump kind of changes what we're allowed 326 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: to do publicly, I bet you public gathering, it's going 327 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: to be the last thing to get cleared. Yeah, it'd 328 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: be tough to go. All right, we've just been given 329 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: a controversial clearance. Let's everybody get together. That would be tough. 330 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah. And nobody's got Anybody that doesn't already 331 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: have a ticket that's paid for are probably not spending 332 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: money after they've been out of work for two months 333 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: on concert tickets. That's a good point too. Uh. It's 334 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: interesting it's scary. I was looking at this place lest 335 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: you put up that's Brett Young Quarantine with a hundred 336 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: and twelve song sixty five hours, and it's a lot 337 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: of your songs, a lot of your favorite songs that 338 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: people submit their songs. I was kind of looking through 339 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: the listen of that. But I'm trying to get a 340 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: film for you as like what you listen to when 341 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: you're alone, Like, who is your favorite artist of all time? 342 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: Of all times? Is that right? How cool do you 343 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: get to be friends with your favorite favorite? I just 344 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: I knew he was a big, a big part of 345 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, your music, and you really liked him. I 346 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: don't know who's your favorite though. That's cool, Yeah, his 347 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: his his songwriting is very unique and interesting to me, 348 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: and his voice is my I could listen to Gavitt 349 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: thing forever. Um, So that's I mean, it was very 350 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: cool that that we crossed paths and got to become 351 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: friends and we've worked together a little because that's Ah, 352 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: that's definitely like working with one of my idols. So 353 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: that's that's definitely top of the list. There's a guy, though, 354 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: um that I met a couple of years ago playing 355 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: the as Cap stage at Sundance UM in Park City. UM, 356 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: and he has a song out right now that that 357 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: everybody's loving called if the was Ending with Julia Michaels. 358 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 1: But um, his name is JP Sachs and he has 359 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: a new EP out and all the songs on his 360 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: EP or on repeat for me right now. So you 361 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: know that dude. I mean, yeah, we met, Like I said, 362 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: we met doing an ASCAP event a couple of years ago. 363 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: But we've been in touch recently about getting together and writing. 364 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: He's in town. But there's just something really like honest 365 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: and straightforward about his songwriting and he's got a really 366 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: cool voice. So I've been kind of mainlining JP s 367 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: act lately. Well, let me go back to Gavin for 368 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,479 Speaker 1: a second, because I think of the people that I 369 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: love and I've been able to work alongside or do 370 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: some stuff with them, and you know, it's always an 371 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: interesting thing to to to be ap peer to someone 372 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: that you admire. When when you meet Gavin for the 373 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: first time, do you remember that, Yeah, the first time 374 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: I met get well, it's kind of a yes. So 375 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: I was at his show. He was on a co 376 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: headlining tour with Avril Levine and I was living in 377 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: l a and they played the Greek Theater and Uh, Gavin, 378 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if he still does this, but he 379 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: always used to go out and listen to the opener, 380 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 1: just stand in the crowd, and if people approached him, 381 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: they approached him. And uh. And that night, Um, she 382 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: was on stage and I was with a couple of 383 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: my cousins, girls both younger than me, and we saw 384 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: him and we went over and introduced ourselves and took 385 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: pictures with him and stuff, and Uh, my cousins rove 386 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: back to Orange County. I went out to a nightclub 387 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: after the show, and me and my buddy, at like 388 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning, we're eating at Mels Diner 389 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: on Sunset and we were out on the patio, um, 390 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: right along the sidewalk on Sunset, and Gavin came walking 391 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: down the street and I yelled at him and stopped 392 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: him and we had a conversation. I was just about 393 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: to go into the studio to record my first EP ever. 394 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: This was like two thousand and four, two thousands five maybe, 395 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: and Uh he stopped for twenty minutes at three o'clock 396 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: in the morning and asked me questions and gave me 397 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: advice about, you know, recording the EP and and about 398 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: songwriting and the whole thing. And um. Fast forward a 399 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: year later and I'm in Hawaii for a YouTube through 400 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: I find out Gavin's playing for the Honolulu Marathon at 401 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: the Wiki Ki show and uh, same thing. He's standing 402 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: out listening to this ukulele player before I walk up 403 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: to him and he's like, dude, I remember you, Mels 404 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: on Sunset. I couldn't believe that you remember, but he 405 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: was like, dude, I was a crack up. He's like, 406 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: I hate Hawaii. It's terrible. It's all tourists. What are 407 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: you doing later, Let's get a beer. I'm staying. I 408 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: forget what he was staying at that the Long Border 409 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: or whatever, but we ended up hanging out the rest 410 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: of that trip, going to the U two show together 411 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: and within Buddies ever steps. I have a good Gavin 412 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: to Gross story where we were at the airport and 413 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: we were on the same flight flying back from Los Angeles, 414 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: and just to show how nice of a guy is, 415 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: we're flying back and he's in the seat behind me 416 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: and we're talking a little bit, but it's an awkward 417 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: thing where you don't really want to turn around and 418 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: have the conversation through the hole in the middle of 419 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: the seats. But you're like, hey, man, you're good. Yeah, 420 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: you're good. And he had just um does some charity work. 421 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: We did some charity work together, and we come off 422 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: the plane about the same time. So we're talking on 423 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: the way out, and Gavin is a super nice guy. 424 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: It's funny that you mentioned that you just went up 425 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: to him becau in the airport. He'll he stops and 426 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: talks to anybody who wants to come up, and it's 427 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: just saying hello to anybody and everybody and just a 428 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: smile on his face. And we're waiting for our bags baggage, 429 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: and I'm taking picture with a few people. He's taking 430 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: pictures with a few people, and I'm you know, and 431 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: people are like struggling to take pictures, and you know, 432 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: if someone's like, hey, can get a picture, and they 433 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: give their phone to somebody and they're like, oh crap, 434 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: I gotta flip the all the stuff's happening. And he 435 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: pulls me aside and he goes, hey, I'm gona give 436 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: a little advice on these pictures, because I was just 437 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: taking pictures of people, but it was taking me a 438 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: lot longer than it was him. And he said, hey, 439 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: what you do? Said, just grab their phone and go, hey, 440 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: let's get that selfie and just go boom boom and 441 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 1: hand them their phone. That way you can get more 442 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: people in the line faster. And also they're not like 443 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: I can't flip my phone. You avoid all of that 444 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: trouble of them not knowing how to handle their phone. 445 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: And so that was my gavin to go advice. So 446 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: we both have been served a little bit of of 447 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: Gavin's sage wisdom. Yeah, he's a he is the king 448 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: of the meet and greed. I gotta give him that. 449 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: He's he if there is, he won't leave until everybody 450 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: that got their picture is happy. Do you feel like 451 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: speaking to meet and greets that you're gonna do yours 452 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: different for now on as far as just touching as 453 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: much and hugs and pictures and stuff. Yeah, I don't know. 454 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: That's that's a great question. We definitely while we were 455 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: over in Europe we canceled all the meet and greets. Um, 456 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how that's gonna look. 457 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean the tour that I'm on has A has 458 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: a V I V meet and Greek package. So I 459 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: don't know that canceling it is an option, but um, 460 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: it's got it's got to change somehow. It's got to 461 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: be like, you know, no shaking hands or or it's 462 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: got to be something. It's got to change a little 463 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: bit social social distance, meeting greet until we've flattened the curve, 464 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: so to speak. Yeah, do you watch the news a 465 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: lot or now? Um? Yeah, but lately it's been like 466 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: a lot of the same information and it's become it 467 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: started to become kind of a downer. So I do 468 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: like a I do like a before bed check in 469 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: rather than watching it all day long. At this point, 470 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: do you ever listen to your own music and you're 471 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: the bus, just turn it up and have a have 472 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: a breath. And I just wrote it otherwise. I take 473 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: a break from my voice as often as possible. Last 474 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: time you're in just to kind of catch up. You 475 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: hadn't had the baby. You had the baby right afterwards, 476 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: Like how what's the difference in life right now? Everything? 477 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: Nothing is the same, um, even even being here right now, 478 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: Like I bet I would have let my wife decide, 479 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: but I bet I like I would have gone home 480 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: and if she got it, we like we would have 481 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: it together, you know the virus I'm talking about, so 482 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: like even down to that. But I think, um, it changes, 483 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: you know. I used to I used to be a 484 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: really like late night like night owl guy. Um. And 485 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: then I would because I could sleep in because shows, 486 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, I don't have to be in the sound 487 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: check to like two and uh, and it's it's now 488 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: it's like, because you have to be up in the 489 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: morning with the baby, you're getting tired earlier. And it's 490 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: like even on the road. Now I get off stage 491 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: and I used to need a little time to like, 492 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: you know, let the kind of adrenaline come down, and 493 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: it's like half the time. Now I walk off stage, 494 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: walk back, changing the like clean clothes, and fall into bed. 495 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: So it's I mean, it's definitely I'm definitely adulting nowadays, 496 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: which is not something I was used to. I'm looking 497 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: at picture your baby here on your Instagram. By the way, 498 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: it's Brett Young music. Who do you see in your 499 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: baby's face? More you or your wife? I still think 500 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: it's more me. Um. But when she was born the 501 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: first month, it was my twin. I mean she was 502 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: exactly mem I'm starting to see even though she's my coloring, 503 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: she's got lighter skin and light eyes and light hair. 504 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm starting to see more of like my wife's the 505 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: shape of my wife's wife's face. I think she has 506 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: like a lot of Taylor's features, but she has all 507 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: my coloring, so it's starting to become more of a blend. 508 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: But I think if you ask people at this point, 509 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: they'd still say more me. How's Taylor doing having to 510 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: be the sort of single mom right now? She's she's 511 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: doing great. Luckily, her mom was in town visiting when 512 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: this whole thing went down, and because her mom's in 513 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: that like mid sixties age range, which is like like 514 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: high risk, we decided that it wasn't safe for her 515 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: to fly, and especially they of like in the Seattle area, 516 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: which is like Washington is the worst right now. So, um, 517 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: she's it worked out great that she's been able to 518 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: have her mom. They're helping while I've been on the bus, 519 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: So she's doing good. I'm sure she's excited for me 520 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: to come be able to help and and take on 521 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: part of the load, but it's been nice to have 522 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: grandma there. I give you one more question before we jump, 523 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: But it's it's about songwriting. Yeah, that's something new that 524 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: happened in your life, which is your baby. Are you 525 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: writing songs now with new intentions because there's something new 526 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: in your life? Absolutely? You and I've talked about this before. UM, 527 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: I never want to. I never want to write, um 528 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: in a in a way that would come across pandering, 529 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, like I don't want to. I'm not gonna 530 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: put out a lullaby's record because I just had a baby, 531 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, like that's this is not how it's gonna work. 532 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: But at the same time, authenticity UM in songwriting has 533 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: always been really important to me. Like, if I'm not 534 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: writing about something I've been through or at least associate 535 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: with and relate to, then I don't think I can 536 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: expect people to like connect with the song. You know, 537 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm not connected with it. And so the best way 538 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: to do that is to write about your life. And 539 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: obviously the biggest thing that's happened in my life lately 540 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: is that we had our first child, So it's it's 541 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: definitely influencing the rights. There is a song that I've 542 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: written for her that we're closing the tour with now 543 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: that will be that will come out when my next 544 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: project comes out, whenever that is. Um So it's it's 545 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: a tricky balance because yeah, it's it's going to affect 546 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: and influence my songwriting. But I also want to make 547 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: sure that you know, I don't write twelve songs about 548 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: my daughter. You know, there's there's people out there still 549 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: having their heartbroken that want to hear the quintessential heartbreak 550 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: song or the people that are that neat that wedding song, 551 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: and so I want to make sure there's a little 552 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: bit of something for everyone. But um, she's She's definitely 553 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: life has changed forever and it will affect songwriting moving 554 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: forward for sure. Well, dude, I'm glad to hear you're 555 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: doing well. I'm glad to hear you have no symptoms 556 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: and very mature of you to chill on the bus, 557 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know if I would have been so mature. 558 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: It's good to hear from you. Thanks, But it's always 559 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: good talking with you, all right. I talked to you soon, 560 00:25:54,359 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: budd Hey, we're rolling already, So anything you say cannon 561 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: will be used against you just right out of the gate. 562 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: I like it, you know, No need. Hey, you know 563 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: what I was talking to Trevor. I saw him a 564 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, really before all the Corona stuff, 565 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: like a really hit, and I went up to him. 566 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: We were at a charity event together, and I was like, hey, dude, 567 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: you guess put pulled out of the Country to Country festival. 568 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: And I was like, man, kind of you guys are 569 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: the first ones to do that, kind of the cutting 570 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: edge of pulling out of festivals, Like you guys knew 571 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: what was coming. Yeah. Man, we had a little I 572 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: don't know, man, and we just you know, we talked 573 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 1: about that for a long time and it was not 574 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: an easy thing to do, and we knew we were 575 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: gonna catch some flak for it, but just man, I 576 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: felt like the right thing, especially you know, when we 577 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: started talking about like our crew and stuff, because I 578 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: mean partially that was a big part of the decision, 579 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: because as those guys don't have any like game for 580 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: going over there. You know, it's not like they're not 581 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: getting paid more for going over there. They're not, you know, 582 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: we're just kind of putting them over there. And at 583 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: the time, it seemed like we were putting them in 584 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of risk of maybe getting stuck or 585 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: maybe not getting home as easily as possible. And it's 586 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: just there was just so much uncertainty around it that 587 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: we just made that decision. I'm glad we made it. 588 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: It sucks that we took some people off, but you know, 589 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: we just did it, and now we look like we 590 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: knew something was coming. But yeah, you'd like to the 591 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: nostrodamis a freaking touring bands. Yeah, you know, you bring 592 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: up the crew, guys. I was writing an article on 593 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: Billboard today and it was talking about coronavirus and the 594 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: vulnerability of the gig economy and it's you know, who's 595 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: suffering and everybody's suffering, but all those guys, and I 596 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: can tell you, Mike's my deal is. I felt like 597 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: I needed to pay because I just have a tour manage, right, 598 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: I do stand up have a very little crew. You 599 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: guys have a ton. But I had probably eight or 600 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: nine dates and I was able to pay her because 601 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: she was one person. But what a lot of people 602 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: don't know is you have a whole team that is 603 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: traveling with you. Who is some of them are are 604 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: gig paid? Right? Uh? Well most of our yes, some 605 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: of them are most of them our on salary at 606 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: this point. So right now everybody's good. Oh really, you know, yeah, hopefully, 607 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, we're trying to ride this out to the 608 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: very last minute. Um Like, right now it looks like 609 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: everybody's good, everybody's taking care of nobody's working. But but 610 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: right now we don't really have anyone that is scrounging 611 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: for a paycheck. So um so that we're fortunate in that, 612 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, in that way that we have gotten to 613 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: a point where we could you know, pay our employee 614 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: and the way we do and keep them keep them 615 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: in their homes. Right now, Well, let's rewind a little 616 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: bit though, because let's say it's a year and a 617 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: half ago, or it's some of these artists that have 618 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: like a hit, like they don't really have the resources 619 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: to pay someone a salary yet. And you know, it's 620 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: a lot of those guys who are the players or 621 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: guys that are you know, running monitors who are now going, 622 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: what the crap am I supposed to do? Yeah? Man, 623 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: that's you know, we weren't. We aren't that far removed 624 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: from that. And there are a lot of those guys 625 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: out there, and some of them are you know, on 626 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: bigger tours to bigger tours, bigger than us, Like, you know, 627 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 1: that's just the it's just the philosophy of how you 628 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: want to pay your people. And neither one is wrong. 629 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: We just kind of lucked out and this way right now, 630 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: that that's how we chose. But yeah, for those guys 631 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: and girls that are out there like humping it and 632 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: they're getting per show pay, it's got to be really 633 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: really scary right now. I saw a video you posted 634 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: trying on curling. Yeah, what that was. That wasn't old, 635 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: that wasn't a their video. But that was fun. But 636 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: what's difficult about that? I'm not saying it's easy because 637 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I've just never done curling. I 638 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: see it in the Winter Olympics. Well, so what's tough 639 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: about curling? Man? Man? Those guys like if you like, 640 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: talk to the guys who are like super into it. 641 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: That's the only time we ever did it. Um, there's 642 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: there's different releases that you can release that stone and 643 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: make it curve and all this stuff. I mean, the 644 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: most difficult part is obviously standing on the ice and 645 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: not just you. But it was fun. I mean, you know, 646 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: it's it's like it's like, you know, the sport you 647 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: can drink a lot of beer while you're playing. It's like, 648 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's like bowling almost, So it's like bowling 649 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: and shelf and board. I'm sure like there's people that 650 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: are super into it that you know. I don't know. 651 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: We all sucked at it, but it was fun to try. 652 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: What are you doing at the house all day? Now? Uh? Man, 653 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of artwork. Actually, I went 654 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: to arts cool, so I haven't had a whole lot 655 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: of time in the past decade to do any kind 656 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: of like painting or digital art. And that's that I 657 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: grew up doing a lot of them, so kind of 658 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: kind of dove into doing a lot of that lately. 659 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: Would you go with the intentions of doing when you 660 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: went to art school? Uh, you know, my degree is 661 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: in the illustrations, so but but honestly, man, I just 662 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't really do anything else. I wanted to go 663 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: to either music school or um art school because as 664 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: we're two things that I was super passionate about. But 665 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, I still don't know how to read music. 666 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how to read music. So I couldn't 667 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: really go to music school. I would have been way 668 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: behind the curve there. So, um, so art school was 669 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: really kind of my only other options. So I was 670 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: either going to have to like stay at home with 671 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: my parents or and get a job or go to 672 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: art school. So art school is it? You're telling me 673 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: you have eight number ones and you don't know how 674 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: to read music. I don't know how to read. I mean, 675 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: I can you know. I mean I could not fight 676 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: read a thing. I could not sit down and play 677 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: look at it some sheet music and play it. No, 678 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. If you showed me a note 679 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: and said what note is that, it would take me 680 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: embarrassingly long to figure it out. I can figure it out, 681 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: but uh no, I don't read music. It's all here, 682 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: Of all of we'll do the number ones. Of all 683 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: the number ones, which one kind of fell out? The 684 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: quickest that you wrote, um, save it for any Day 685 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: was the quickest one. And it's a funny story about 686 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: that one, because so that one was written by me 687 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: and UM Brad Percy and UM our friend Andrew Dorff, 688 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: who had passed away a couple of years ago. UM 689 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: And back then we used to write we had like 690 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: a sort of standing thing where we would write at 691 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: nine am before our regular rights, so we would right, 692 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: our normal right would be scheduled for eleven with whoever, 693 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: but we would meet at nine and kind of work 694 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: on something that we had already started or you know, 695 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: start something knowing that we weren't going to finish it. 696 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: But that day we didn't really have anything. So the 697 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: nine am right, and I was trying to think of 698 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: ideas before I you know, went into the right, and 699 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: and I had that idea and save it for any day. 700 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: And I sort of was driving into the right and 701 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: thinking about it and kind of singing through it. And 702 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: so when I got there, I kind of sang through 703 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: the idea and they were like, yeah, let's do that. 704 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: And we wrote that in like minutes. Um. So when 705 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: you say you were singing it on the way in, 706 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: are you just singing the melody? Do you have a 707 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: lot of the lyrics for the hook? How do What 708 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: does that mean when you say that? Well, I had, like, 709 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, I definitely had the idea of like the 710 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: chorus of like songs to Bright Sky's two Blue, you know, 711 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: Beers Too Cold. I had that I had basically the 712 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: chorus kind of idea mapped out and the melody, but 713 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: I didn't have you know, it wasn't like I was 714 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: playing a guitar, but I just heard it in my head. 715 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: So when I got there, I just picked up a 716 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: guitar and said something like this and and there was 717 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: a song that that um was inspiring me a lot 718 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: at that point in time that I've actually written a 719 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: few songs after that. There's a song called Supplying Demand 720 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: amous Lee that I just couldn't stop listening to it. 721 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: I just wanted to keep writing songs like that, and 722 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: that was sort of my inspiration for that song. So 723 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: so yeah, I was just kind of like hearing the 724 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: melody and the lyrics in my head, and when I 725 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: got there, I spit it out to them and they 726 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, let's do it, and like I said, 727 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: four or five minutes, that thing was done. Yeah. I'm 728 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: a huge amos amos Lee fan. I saw him at 729 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: the Right I know Supply and the Man too. I'm 730 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: just a big amos Lee nerd. But I saw Amoss 731 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: Lee play at the Rhyman probably six or seven months ago, 732 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: and he had lost his voice completely and so he's 733 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: up there he's grinding it out, he's sick. He can 734 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: only sing the real low parts because the whole high 735 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: part of his voice was was was gone that his 736 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: cold or his his whatever had eliminated that. And he 737 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: had the crowd sing a lot of his songs. And 738 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: I just felt bad for him, and I was happy 739 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: that he stayed and tried to sing it. But I wonder, 740 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: if you're the lead singer, if you if you have 741 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: that issue, what is it that you do? Now? Man? 742 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: You just do think you do what he did? You 743 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: power through? Um, I've done it, you know before. It sucks. Um. 744 00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: I sang with the flu and stripped through before and 745 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: it was not fun. And it was actually it was 746 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: a heartbreaking gig because we were playing at the Stone 747 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: Pony in New Jersey and it's a you know, that's 748 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: a big, like Springsteen like hot spot, and I'm a 749 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: huge Springsteen nerd, and you know, that was the first 750 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: time we ever got to play there, and I was 751 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: so excited, and I ended up having the flu, but 752 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't sing. But usually I just kind of address it, 753 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: you know, I say something to the crowd and say, look, 754 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, at this point, thankfully we have fans that 755 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: know the words to the songs, and I can say, look, 756 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna push through this, but I need you tonight, 757 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: and and they all just kind of carry you through. 758 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: But it does suck. It gets in your head and 759 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, get you down because you want to do 760 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: the best you can do. You ever do a steroid 761 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,959 Speaker 1: shot right before and get that pop? Oh yeah, I've 762 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 1: I've gotten the steroid shots before. They they they are magical, 763 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: but they've got to be terrible for you. Yeah. I 764 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: usually crash really hard about a day and a half later, 765 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: like hardware. I feel worse than I did to begin with. 766 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: But as long as you can get through the show, 767 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: like that's what if that's all it feels like it 768 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 1: matters because people paid money for tickets, right right, Yeah, 769 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: Like I'm okay being sick by myself because people didn't 770 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: lose money if I'm sick by myself, right And if 771 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: if I'm playing, you know, they do they come and 772 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: you're harder on yourself, then then they are you know that. 773 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you could probably get through that show and 774 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: no one would even notice if you if you said it, 775 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: if you didn't say anything. But it's still in your 776 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: head and you in your heart, and you want to 777 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: do the best that you can, and you know it's 778 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: such an important and kind of sacred thing when you 779 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: go out there to do that, especially the bigger and 780 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: the crowd get and you're like, Okay, this is a 781 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: people have been looking forward to this moment, you know, 782 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: all year long, So I gotta give it to him. 783 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: And it sucks to have to like do it sick, 784 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: but they wouldn't notice. Half time. I brought up eight 785 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: number ones and that was just Old Dominion, you know, 786 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: and you brought up Saving for a Rainy Day, which 787 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: ended up being you know, a Chesney song. How many 788 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: number ones do you have total? That aren't that are 789 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: all in the world? Do you know, uh that that 790 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: aren't Old Dominions? Yeah, like Old Dominion plus other artists 791 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: I have, Because you got eight with O D right, 792 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: So then I've got the one that got away with 793 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: Mike Lay, I got Saving for any Day with Um Kenny. 794 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: I got to say you do with um dirks Um 795 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: make you miss Me with Sam like, crap, that might 796 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: be it. I think that that might be it. When 797 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: did it? When? When did it start to pop for you? 798 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: As a songwriter in town, like where people started to 799 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: actually search you out for rights more so than the 800 00:38:55,320 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: other way around. Oh man, Um, like after what was it? 801 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 1: Maybe not a year, but what did you do? Peo? 802 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: We'll go, Oh that's good. I'd like to write with 803 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah, I mean I think it was a 804 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: song that that we wrote. Um, Trevor and and I 805 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: and Josh Osborne wrote a song called wake Up Loving 806 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: You that Craig Morgan ended up recording and that song 807 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: changed the game for me in a lot of different ways. Um, 808 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: but it opened up so many doors for me like 809 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: that that was and for old Dominion. Honestly, that was 810 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 1: like the song. That song got me a publishing deal 811 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: when I needed it, you know terribly. Uh that that 812 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: song probably opened up more doors than any other song. 813 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: You know. That song I remember from that me like 814 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: the alarm at the beginning of it with my alarm. 815 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: Oh that was from you? Was that from the demo? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 816 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: it's funny that song, man, it's crazy like that. The 817 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: moment that really, the moment that got me in the 818 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: mix was this decision to go to Key West for 819 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: the Songwriter Festival. Have you ever been here? No? No, 820 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: I usually I have to freaking work at my real job. 821 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: I'd like to go. It's fun. But like back in 822 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: the day, this is sort of a long story, but 823 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: back in the day, I was a stay at home dad. 824 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: I was trying to like work and you know, try 825 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: to write songs at night and and raise my daughter 826 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: and try to like somehow make this happen. And I 827 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: was feeling very frustrated because I'm not a very good 828 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,919 Speaker 1: like networker and there are people that are really good 829 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: at that and that gets them pretty far. And I 830 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: wasn't really good at that, but I knew and I was, 831 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, writing stuff that was good and if I 832 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: could just get out there, but I couldn't because I 833 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,919 Speaker 1: had this daughter and you know. So I was like, look, 834 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: the whole town goes to key West for for this 835 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: songwriter festival. If I could just go down there, then 836 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: I could spend like three or four days networking for 837 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: this thing. So I had no money. I had a 838 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: friend that um whose brother is a pilot, and he 839 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: got me a free ticket, and so I was like, Okay, 840 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't have a place to stay, but I'm gonna go. 841 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: I don't care. I'll find a place to stay. I 842 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: got a free ticket down there, so I got my bag. 843 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: I landed in Key West. I'm literally walking down the 844 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: street with my suitcase and I see a songwriter everybody 845 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 1: in my name is Bruce Wallace, and he was like, dude, 846 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: where are you staying. I was like, God, I don't know, 847 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: and he was like, ah, you should stay with me. 848 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: I have an extra bed. I got two beds, so 849 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: I stayed with him. As Cap covered my meals like 850 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: I would. I got out of like box of granola 851 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 1: bars that I would eat for breakfast and for lunch, 852 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: and then as Cap got my dinner every night. And 853 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: then I waited until like three am at this little 854 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: bar called the Bottle Cap that was kind of an 855 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: open mic thing to get up and play my song. 856 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: And I got up and played Wake Up Loving You. 857 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: In the whole place went nuts. And actually Brothers Osborne 858 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: weren't Brothers Osborne at the time. They were a bank 859 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: called Team Billy, and they were the house band. So 860 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: I got up there with them and played Wake Up 861 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: Loving You and that ended up getting me a publishing 862 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: deal and set me up amazing. Let's go back two years. 863 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,439 Speaker 1: Tell me about Old Dominion. Two years ago, Where were 864 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: you guys two thousand eighteen, Like what what? What? What 865 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: was the band thinking? Because that's about the time right 866 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: before you guys really hit hard. Yeah, two thousand and eight, 867 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 1: two years ago was when it sounds crazy, but uh, 868 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: that's when Naked Sweet happened. Um, that was when we 869 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: it was time to make the next album, and uh, 870 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: we thought, you know, what are we gonna do. Let's 871 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,760 Speaker 1: just usually we we have like a list of songs 872 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: that we kind of have to to go in and 873 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: record and and I had kind of thrown this little 874 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 1: tantrum one night at the end of the year about 875 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: how we didn't have enough time to make an album 876 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: and so we needed more more time in our team, 877 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: who is wonderful made the time for us. So our 878 00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: first recording session snuck up on us and we didn't 879 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: have any songs. Um in mind, we had songs, but 880 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: we didn't have a plan. So since we didn't have 881 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: a plan, we had studio time. We decided to go 882 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: in and write a song and record it in the 883 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: same day and see what happened. So that was when 884 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: you make it Sweet happen. And that that sort of 885 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: set the tone for the whole thing. I can't believe 886 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: it was that long ago. He was what song that 887 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: you put out? Did you feel at the quickest? Uh? 888 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: What did you feel it the quickest? Meaning like, oh 889 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: we got ourselves a hit here. Oh it was one 890 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: man band for sure? Really yeah? Because yeah, yeah, that 891 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: was like, um immediate, like we went in, we went 892 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: on tour. The first show was in Chicago in January, 893 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: and that wasn't necessarily going to be the next single yet, 894 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: and we played it and people were already singing it 895 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: like like louder than some of the hits that we 896 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: had already had, and it was just kind of like 897 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: a you know, grat track at that point. So it 898 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 1: was such an immediate response to that song. Yeah, that's 899 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: my that's my jam. That's my jam too. As soon 900 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: as it came out, I remember hitting you up being like, 901 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: this is my favorite song of my whole life this week? Yeah, crazy, Yeah, 902 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: that was definitely the biggest one. Well listen, man, go 903 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: to talk to you. I know we were gonna do 904 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 1: this in studio, but the virus got us and hopefully 905 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't have either one of us, but we had 906 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: to throw it down on the phone. So we'll be 907 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: sure to connect up one day in person. But what's 908 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: a big fan of what you do? You know, I'm 909 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: a massive Old Dominion fanca is. When it comes to albums, 910 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't think manchoul put them out anymore unless your 911 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: name is Old Dominion. That's the only album that I 912 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: care to invest all my time into because you guys 913 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: just do hit after freaking hit, and the songs you 914 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: don't put on your record, other artists take them and 915 00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: then they have number one. It's like you're just passing 916 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: out chair. He hits. I appreciate him. Well, good to 917 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: talk to you, Matt, and we'll talk to you soon. Yeah, man, 918 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 1: stay healthy, I see that. H