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Speaker 1: What's happen everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Wednesday, Nation of Texans All Access from Nonday

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Speaker 2: Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 1: John Harris your.

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Speaker 2: Host, playing a sideline reporter alongside the voice of the Texans,

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Speaker 2: Mark vandermir Mark.

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Speaker 1: Good evening. How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Good evening, Johnny, I'm doing great. We got rookie Mini

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Speaker 3: Caamp coming up in a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait for that.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting time of year, as you know, obas

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Speaker 3: on the way I'm watching NBA basketball at night. I

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Speaker 3: wish the Rockets were still alive. But I tune into

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Speaker 3: these games with about five ten minutes to go to

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Speaker 3: watch the pressure moments because I'm not going to sit

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Speaker 3: through an entire NBA game of two teams where I

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Speaker 3: have no dog in the fight. I love those moments, though,

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Speaker 3: and often it takes about an hour and a half

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Speaker 3: to watch the last ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: It's just that way in that sport. It's icy. I

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Speaker 1: have not.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Steph Curry getting injured in the first

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Speaker 2: game after beating the Rockets is so Warriors Rockets. But

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Speaker 2: they won the game anyway. Yeah, and they still won.

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Speaker 2: But you and I earlier today is around lunchtime. You

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Speaker 2: asked me if I had seen the end of the

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Speaker 2: Calves and Pacers game, and I had not, but thankfully

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Speaker 2: on my YouTube TV, I had put all NBA Playoff

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Speaker 2: games on the DVR, like you, yeah, it saves everything,

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Speaker 2: and then it saves them for thirty days, which is

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Speaker 2: freaking awesome.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, I'll do what you just did.

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Speaker 2: I fast forwarded all the way till there was a

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Speaker 2: seven point lead for the Cavaliers. I was intrigued because

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Speaker 2: of Nick Sario on Sports Rao six ten. He had

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Speaker 2: he made a comment about how the Cavaliers lost by

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Speaker 2: not blocking out, which is true, and he used that

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Speaker 2: as kind of a jumping off point about what this,

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Speaker 2: what time of year, this is and that is fundamentals,

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Speaker 2: building blocks, the basics, and it's like blocking out some

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Speaker 2: basic in basketball, like it should be something that every

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Speaker 2: team does and every time team does well, you can

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Speaker 2: all blox out.

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Speaker 1: And they didn't and it costs they lost.

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Speaker 3: Was incredible offensive rebounds, the one with the free throw

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Speaker 3: miss and dunk, and then the other where Halliburton gets

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Speaker 3: it kind of mid lane, there's traffic between him and

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Speaker 3: the basket, he still gets it.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: But there was a guy used to play with in

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Speaker 3: Boston pick up basketball, and he used to say it,

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Speaker 3: and I still say it in the same accent, you

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Speaker 3: got to get a body on him. You've got to

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Speaker 3: get a body on him. And I say that to

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Speaker 3: my sons all the time in basketball. Get a body

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Speaker 3: on him. You get a body on the guy and

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Speaker 3: back them out. That's fundamental stuff in basketball. And I

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Speaker 3: love your juxtaposition here with the NFL because right now,

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Speaker 3: you're right, it's fundamental time, especially as they install this offense.

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Speaker 3: Right now they're allowed to do some offense versus nobody,

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Speaker 3: stuff in defense versus nobody, and eventually they'll bring the

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Speaker 3: two sides together.

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Speaker 1: We'll have some fun.

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Speaker 2: Was there was there anything that came out of sean

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Speaker 2: seys discussion with Nick that you thought was huh?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: I felt like everything that he had talked about we

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Speaker 2: we had heard. I got to a point where I'm like, man,

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Speaker 2: I had I had a lux member event with Nick,

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Speaker 2: yes where we talked about things. Then we had him

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Speaker 2: on the air with us, and then you had him

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Speaker 2: at the Insider dinner. Yeah, and then he had his

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Speaker 2: press conferences. So I'm in my mind trying to think, Okay,

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Speaker 2: was this something that he said at the lux event?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't want to talk about that, but was

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Speaker 1: it that. So there's all these things kind of going

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Speaker 2: But I found it interesting that he mentioned Ladarius Henderson

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Speaker 2: by name, and I know there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: round pick in twenty four and he had been injured

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Speaker 2: and so he basically spent the year rehabbing. But at

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Speaker 1: Guys saying, Hey, who's Ladarius Henderson.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't that he brought that up unprovoked, And somebody

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Speaker 2: last year when he talked about Henry toatoa unprovoked Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and look what Henry became. And everybody's like, oh, Ladarius Henderson,

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Speaker 2: we've seen Henry. Yeah, yeah, we had seen Henry and

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Speaker 2: to Henry about that and he said, man, building up

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Speaker 2: my body, getting my body.

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Speaker 1: Right was a big thing.

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Speaker 2: And I think for Ladarius he did that kind of

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Speaker 2: spending a red shirt year getting himself healthy. And I

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Speaker 2: know it had to be hard. That had to be

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Speaker 2: being there, you're like, hey, you know I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: end up making him better for the long run. And

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Speaker 2: I said this, I said this, and I believe this.

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Speaker 1: Mark.

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Speaker 2: There's going to be a surprise in this offensive line,

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Speaker 2: whatever this five is, there's gonna be one that we go, wait,

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Speaker 2: what a wild card? Or did we Yeah, a wild

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Speaker 2: card we didn't see common and maybe and it develops

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Speaker 2: throughout camp kind of ramps up where you're like, hey,

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Speaker 2: such and such, they looked all right, Hey, he's getting

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Speaker 2: wrapped with the twos man. He's actually in there with

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Speaker 2: the ones on this series, and before you know it,

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Speaker 2: hopefully you got a Mike Brisel situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where an undrafted guy rises up out of nowhere.

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Speaker 3: So of all the possibilities of the entire roster right now,

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Speaker 3: left tackle in no particular order. Okay, but Cam Robinson,

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Speaker 3: let's go Ursery. Yeah, okay, they just drafted him. We'll

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Speaker 3: say Blake Fisher because he did spend time at left

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Speaker 3: tackle in training camp. The lot of time at left Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's that. Titus is still a possibility. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: can't rule it out. You can't rule it out. And

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Speaker 3: Nick was very noncommitted about Titus this morning.

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Speaker 1: You want the don't forget about me number five one.

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Speaker 1: You're about to get to Ladarius Henderson.

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Speaker 2: No, I think Ladarius plays inside Killian, the Austin Deculus.

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Speaker 3: Austin Deculus is Killian still on the roster, right, No,

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Speaker 3: he's not always gone.

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Speaker 1: No, he I can't remember where he went.

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Speaker 2: I remember, and I know this because I did all

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Speaker 2: my I did all my draft needs.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he'll be back.

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Speaker 2: And I remember thinking, oh, you ain't think he is Falcons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he's with the Falcons. Yeah, all right, so never

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Speaker 2: But Boston Deculus started a game for the Texans in

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Speaker 2: no sacks, no sacks against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: We got six guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, six guys possibly possibly now the likeliest Robinson and

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Speaker 3: again no particular order, Ursery, right, maybe Henderson, I think

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Speaker 3: deculous before Deculus is not going to start a left tackle,

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Speaker 3: but no, he's in the mix. But am I going

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Speaker 3: to count him out to make the team. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and maybe be a swing guy or whatever the case is.

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Speaker 1: Likely to happen.

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Speaker 3: If it was either of those two guys, Titus a

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Speaker 3: left tackle, Blake at left tackle, what they would do,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it's a great question.

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Speaker 2: I think they would probably leave because I think Titus

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Speaker 1: I think that's what they so they don't want to

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Speaker 3: They'd rather have either Ursery win the job, Robinson be

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Speaker 3: great as great as he could possibly be, or a

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Speaker 3: guy like Henderson rise up from nowhere because he started

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe.

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Speaker 2: And I think Ladarius is a guard. But that's okay.

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Speaker 2: That's the whole thing about about red shirting. In a sense,

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Speaker 2: and rehabbing is that you get a chance to remake

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Speaker 2: a guard body if you need to. So it's interesting

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Speaker 2: that Nick brought him up this morning. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: can't even remember how Sean or or Seth phrased the question,

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Speaker 2: but essentially it was kind of like, you know who's

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Speaker 2: of unprompted.

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Speaker 1: He likes guys who put in the work in the

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Speaker 1: off season. That's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: He said that about Garawalla once upon a time, and

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Speaker 3: Garrett ultimately did not pan out, but he cited the.

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Speaker 1: Hard work he was doing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So the hard work that Ladarius and Nick would

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Speaker 3: admittedly say this that, Hey, the hard work doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 3: automatically mean that you're going to turn into something, but

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Speaker 1: Of those guys.

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Speaker 3: You've got to put in all that offseason effort. And

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Speaker 3: apparently Henderson has. We'll get a good close look at

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Speaker 3: him in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. We got rookie Minnie camp at

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Speaker 2: the end of the week. So it's gonna be fun

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Speaker 2: to kind of lay eyes on the rookies, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: You know, one of the moves that I can't remember

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Speaker 2: if they mentioned this with Nick today. And look, I

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Speaker 2: don't know what it's gonna end up being, but the

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Speaker 2: Texans claimed Jake Andrews on Waivers center center. And I

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Speaker 2: met Jake at Senior Bowl in twenty twenty three, and

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Speaker 2: he was there talking to our guy Lancer line and

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Speaker 2: Lancell's the offensive line pretty well, and they were talking

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Speaker 2: and I heard the mention of wrestling, and I looked

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Speaker 2: over at Jake and I was like, oh, yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: a wrestler, weren't you, And he goes, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know, wrestlers just have kind of

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Speaker 1: this way. Look they had that.

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Speaker 2: There's a look that you could see just the way

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Speaker 2: they play. And and so Jake ended up being a Patriot,

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Speaker 2: got hurt, gets released, he gets put on waivers, and

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Speaker 2: the Texans ended up claiming him. And look, Cole's got

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Speaker 2: Cole Popovich Off's the line coach I saw today. He's

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Speaker 2: got he's got experience with Jake having been at Troy

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Speaker 2: and he left that competition. And I think that's the

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Speaker 2: one thing that we've talked about the offensive line, and

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Speaker 2: I think we focused on tackling guards so much that

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Speaker 2: it's kind of a part of me that like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we got to figure out center. And maybe it's as

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Speaker 2: simple as hey, Jared Patterson's the center in his team.

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Speaker 2: He's the most reliable guy, he's the most trustworthy guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that gets the job done.

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Speaker 2: And it was funny because one of the things that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know where you're going. I think linebacker could

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Speaker 3: And you found Tommy Togii like a lot of change

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Speaker 1: On paper.

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Speaker 3: This defense can make the stops you needed to make

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Speaker 3: I think, are we too close to the flame when

440
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Speaker 3: we talk about Damian Pierce and we think about the

441
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two season, but it's more than twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: It's how well he ran against the Titans. It's the

443
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Speaker 3: occasional kickoff return that makes you go wow, you know

444
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,879
Speaker 3: it's still there in there. Yes, he didn't change, he

445
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 3: didn't go through some injury. It's not like Steve Slayton, where,

446
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Speaker 3: oh my gosh, once he had that amazing rookie year,

447
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 3: he got really banged up. Now, Damien's had some injuries,

448
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 3: but it's not Slayton. I believe at the back injury

449
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Speaker 3: or something like that. It was a physicality changing kind

450
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Speaker 3: of injury.

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Speaker 1: With Damien. He's still Damien.

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Speaker 3: And I'm really curious about is does this Nick Cayley

453
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Speaker 3: offense bring out the best and Damian Pierce?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty ten. I think it's a great question.

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Speaker 2: I just found it interesting as I was looking at

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Speaker 2: that depth chart, making sure I don't forget somebody on

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Speaker 2: the roster.

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready to get with you that job. No,

459
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Speaker 1: I'm not either.

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Speaker 3: I think he's going to contend for both spots dar

461
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Speaker 3: spot and Damien's number two running back spot. He will

462
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Speaker 3: contend and compete for those spots. Does he get them.

463
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Speaker 3: I can't say that right now. He's a rookie.

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Speaker 1: I gotta see it. Yeah, you're right, there's no question

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Speaker 1: about that. Okay.

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Speaker 2: We talked about fully Foughtacasi becoming a Houston Texan. Yet again,

467
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Speaker 2: that is great news. We loved seeing that news, fully

468
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Speaker 2: being a defensive lineman. We figured, you know what, let's

469
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Speaker 2: talk with a legend Houston Texan, former defensive line first

470
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Speaker 2: round pick trap Jay Travis Johnson. He's going to join

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Speaker 2: us next right here on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to this edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: HUNDA Texans Radio Studio. I'm your oachs John Harris, football analyst,

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Speaker 2: sideline reporter for your Houston Texans, and we always have

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Speaker 2: a blast when we have our next guest with us

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Speaker 2: in studio, and that would be my man Trap j

478
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Speaker 2: Aka Travis Johnson. Two thousand and five first round pick

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Speaker 2: for your Texans, and that's really where we started with

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Speaker 2: this conversation.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of this conversation, but right.

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Speaker 2: Here we talked about being that first round pick in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and five, and one of the things I

484
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Speaker 2: actually noted when he was drafted in two thousand and

485
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Speaker 2: five was actually my first time on air with Mark

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Speaker 2: Vandermer and it was the Draft show and it was

487
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Speaker 2: Mark and I can't remember who else, but I know

488
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Speaker 2: my buddy Lance Erla was on as why Lance had

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Speaker 2: me on, and so I remember Mark asking me what

490
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Speaker 2: I think? What did I think about Travis Johnson's draft pick.

491
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 2: I said, look, Travis Johnson football player I really like,

492
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Speaker 2: and I think he's a really good, productive football player.

493
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Speaker 2: I said, I don't like to fit in this particular defense.

494
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 2: He's a four to three penetrating defensive tackle like he

495
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Speaker 2: would fit into Miko's defense perfectly. But Texans drafted him

496
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Speaker 2: and they were running a three four at the time.

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Speaker 1: It was not the right fit in all.

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Speaker 2: Honesty, and Travis discussed here that it was pretty frustrating

499
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Speaker 2: to not have that fit be right, and he discussed

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Speaker 2: one of the greatest of all time and how the

501
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Speaker 2: fit worked for him. Travis never made excuses, but he

502
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 2: also knew the fit wasn't perfect and had the fit

503
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Speaker 2: Ben better, who knows the fit was perfect for one.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, as he doted right here, when you.

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Speaker 4: Try to explain it to non football people, I tried

506
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Speaker 4: to I tell him like that said, man when you

507
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Speaker 4: look back. Now, let's not get a twist. Aaron Donald

508
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Speaker 4: was still Aaron Donald, one of the greatest ever. Lace

509
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Speaker 4: up some cleats. But you put him in an old

510
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Speaker 4: school where Cleveland at the time had big ted and

511
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Speaker 4: those guys. You say, you know what, Aaron who wanted

512
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Speaker 4: you to play nose guard?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You just hold up, don't move, just stay right there,

515
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 4: sit on the toilet. Does Aaron Donald become who Aaron

516
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 4: Donald is? No, because he's five to eleven, two hundred

517
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Speaker 4: and sixty five pounds.

518
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

519
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Speaker 4: Like you can't like it just doesn't work. You see

520
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And there's so many examples of scheme

521
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Speaker 4: and fit to say. You know what, you gotta do

522
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 4: the work to say this guy fits what we're doing.

523
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 4: And I think you see it more here why we

524
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Speaker 4: had so many success with lately with draft picks.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I gotta do something right now.

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Speaker 3: Is sit on the toilet a noseguard expression?

527
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Speaker 1: Kind of?

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Speaker 4: I mean it is because if you look at him,

529
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Speaker 4: and you look at him look like somebody's lost bull dog,

530
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: and you're sitting on the toill like you're not your

531
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Speaker 4: weights out leaning forward, you're leaning back, your hands buried

532
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 4: on the ground, You're reading and reacting to the movement

533
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Speaker 4: of the center.

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Speaker 3: I love that. I've never heard that before. Somehow I'd

535
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Speaker 3: never heard that, but now I got.

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Speaker 1: It, which makes me think of this. We were talking

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Speaker 1: about this yesterday. Trap.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the most physic impressive person. Now, I

539
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: the one I didn't say was the first one I

540
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: ever saw was your cousin was Max Starks.

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Speaker 1: I remember coaching against him that night. I was like,

542
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Speaker 1: I was looking up and I'm like, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Who's the most physically impressive person you ever came across

544
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Speaker 2: or played against them?

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Speaker 4: There's two people and played with one seen the other one.

546
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 4: And I remember at the Pro Bowl in two thousand

547
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Speaker 4: and nine where Mario and pep are sitting next to

548
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Speaker 4: each other.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Julius Peppers and oh God, and.

550
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Speaker 4: I'm literally like, if God made a better looking specimen,

551
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 4: he kept it for himself, like he saitting he's an angel,

552
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 4: because like those two dudes, I mean, both of them

553
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 4: are six foot seven, built differently, but both of them

554
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Speaker 4: are two hundred ninety pounds, super explosive. I think you know,

555
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 4: of course, the fans here would love for Mario to

556
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Speaker 4: become Julius Peppers, you know, and.

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Speaker 1: I think he had and he had opportunity.

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Speaker 4: I think Mario just he loved he loved the the

559
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: life more than he might have loved the game, you

560
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And because you know it was

561
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 4: it was times I'm like, dude, you're unblockable. Like when

562
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 4: you decide to put your hand in theret and go forward,

563
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 4: there's nobody on this earth that can block you. And

564
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Speaker 4: we saw that at the Pro Bowl in twenty ten

565
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Speaker 4: nine whatever, I guess it's been twenty ten, so I

566
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Speaker 4: guess when I saw them was eight pro bo where

567
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 4: he gets like four sacks in like five plays and

568
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 4: everybody's like, who it gets the best tackles in the game.

569
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Where it's like, hold on now,

570
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Speaker 4: Mario going full speed, we need to tighten.

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Speaker 1: Up, you know what I'm saying.

572
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Speaker 4: And you know, and if he stays here and if

573
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Speaker 4: running that fourth three at the time, he probably a

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Speaker 4: hunter sack guy. I want to say, Mario might have

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Speaker 4: what ninety ninety sacks maybe you know, and I just

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Speaker 4: you know those two probably I mean Max, of course,

577
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Speaker 4: because Max six' nine built like a, bear you know

578
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Speaker 4: WHAT i, Mean like it's it's Like Greg jones of

579
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Speaker 4: course played with another. One oh, yeah you Know greg

580
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 4: took his shirt off at the combine and everybody and.

581
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: Nod you, know he's the first Person i've ever seen

582
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 4: with eight, abs you know WHAT i, mean four. Hamstrings

583
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: like he looks exactly like that picture that they have

584
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 4: in doctor's office of what your muscles are supposed to,

585
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 4: be like where they're looking At so.

586
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: Were you were you on the field that night you

587
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: get that kid From North? Carolina, yes it was that Was.

588
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 4: Lord that Was greg's first game back after after turns

589
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 4: a Cl so you, know we're all in the same.

590
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: CLASS i remember when YOU'RE i thought maybe that might

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Speaker 1: have been. No.

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Speaker 4: No So greg came out in the four. Draft that's

593
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 4: the beginning of. Three that's the opening game of. Three

594
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 4: Is greg's first carry coming off of a cl, surgery

595
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 4: and it Is Dexter read is the number one safety

596
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 4: coming out at the. Time he's a number of ranked

597
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 4: safety getting ready for the draft coming.

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Speaker 1: Up well he's on the third round because of.

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Speaker 4: That BECAUSE i mean he literally like if IF i

600
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Speaker 4: think it Was Chris davis or or Or Krafonso thorpe

601
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 4: that was five yards behind. Him if he's not, there

602
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 4: he goes another three yards four yards and when he

603
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: did him like, That but that was some of the worst.

604
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 4: One you remember his his, collisions him And Sean taylor

605
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: used to. Have they used to be they used to be,

606
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Speaker 4: alright like somebody gonna like somebody gonna die out here

607
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 4: in a, minute you. Know but it Was greg was

608
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Speaker 4: one of the freakst. Guys like when he tore the

609
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Speaker 4: A c they kicked him out of the weight room

610
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 4: because he was like two eighty five pounds three percent body.

611
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 4: Fat they're, like, dude you gotta stop. Lifting but he's

612
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 4: like he ate terrible he ate burgers every. Day and

613
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 4: it was like but he burned it all. Up he

614
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 4: just was a. SPECIMEN i mean it WAS i mean

615
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 4: he wanted them them regular dirt Road South carolina guys

616
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Speaker 4: from the gul Of geeche. Areas then you just, like,

617
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 4: man we're like the first descending the slaves, man like

618
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Speaker 4: they ain't they they, blood they blood ain't ain't watered

619
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Speaker 4: down at.

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Speaker 1: All it was it was.

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Speaker 3: Nuts Travis johnson joining, Us, okay so we went over,

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Speaker 3: five And johnny talked About mario getting drafted and you,

623
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Speaker 3: know we were doing that shit about the physical specimens and.

624
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: Stuff mario was on.

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00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: Track you could, say like you, said if things turned

626
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Speaker 3: out a little, Differently you're talking two, teams Two All

627
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: pro first team awards For Pro, bowls all those, sacks

628
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Speaker 3: Possible hall Of fame career if he could keep it

629
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Speaker 3: going on a consistent, basis which was. Tough But dimico

630
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Speaker 3: goes first in the second. Round and former players have

631
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: talked about. This teammates Of, demiko what were your first

632
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: impressions Of Demiko ryans on the, field rookie linebacker coming

633
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Speaker 3: in defensive player of the.

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Speaker 1: Year oh he was or rookie you, KNOW i mean he,

635
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Speaker 1: was but he was defensive. Player he was. Sec devens

636
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Speaker 1: played the year his senior.

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Speaker 4: YEAR i, mean the only reason Why demigo win the

638
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: second round because he didn't run. Well and if anybody knows,

639
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 4: me go like you like you see him, running you'd

640
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 4: be like you see him running like the. Sprints migo

641
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 4: do everything he could not to run on like heavy

642
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 4: running days during the, offseason because it was like they

643
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 4: just wasn't. Him he was a ball. Player he, ran

644
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 4: like if you do it now with all these metrics

645
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 4: that they have, now they'll they'll measure how fast a

646
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 4: guy goes in at forty and then they'll, see you,

647
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: know because of the, catapult they'll know how fast they

648
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 4: run the. GAME i promise You miko probably ran him

649
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 4: four to four during the games compared to his four

650
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 4: seven four, Eight and he ran whatever he was running coming.

651
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 4: Out but my first impression, was you, KNOW i remember

652
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: his first, practice he like was tripping over words AND

653
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 4: i was kind of making fun of, it and it was

654
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 4: a JOKE i kind of made fun of for a.

655
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Speaker 4: While and then he was, like, hey, basically shut the f,

656
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: up it's my, huddle you know What i'm.

657
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: Saying AND i was, LIKE i like. THIS i like this,

658
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: guy you know WHAT i.

659
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 4: Mean i'm, like there's nobody at the time was gonna

660
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 4: say anything to, me you know WHAT i? Mean and,

661
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: uh you, know we Signed Sam coward that off. SEASON

662
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 4: i remember they Gave Sam Conder Mellion bucks sign and

663
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 4: he's supposed to be the. Starter And sam used to

664
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 4: Be sam in Practice Like i'm practice high. Practice i've

665
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 4: been in this game for however Long i've led the

666
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 4: league in, Tackles i'm to be, here and but The

667
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: miko was hitting people to my playing to the echo

668
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 4: to whistle every single day in, practice in.

669
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: Games and so where they Cut Sam.

670
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 4: Caroday that, offseason like before the season even started to say,

671
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 4: yeah you keep the mean, dollars see you. Later AND

672
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: i think that for us was, like, oh like it's his,

673
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 4: time you know WHAT i.

674
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: Mean and then he was on the.

675
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 4: Field he always took, control always was out there busting his.

676
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: Ass and then WHEN i think that truly was his

677
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: first year that he should have went to The Pro bowl that,

678
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 4: YEAR i think he should have went TO Prob And

679
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 4: i'm pretty sure the ONLY i think he finished second

680
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 4: or third in league in tackles as well that. Year

681
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: and this is a rookie on the team with nothing

682
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 4: but young, guys and he was our leader from day,

683
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: one you know WHAT i. Mean so just the way

684
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 4: he went about his, business and we all had we

685
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 4: were a young, team had a great, time didn't win

686
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 4: a lot of, games but we worked. Hard AND i

687
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: mean some of the fans might not have known, this

688
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: some of the media might not have, cared but we

689
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: really work and like everybody's like man y'all are tanking this,

690
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 4: season like you know how much work we put in

691
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 4: and how and how much we out here. Grinding and

692
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 4: this is When cool came. In so this wasn't even

693
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 4: like later On cool with more. Relaxed this WAS i

694
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: came in With Richard, smith who's gonna say THE f

695
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 4: word every other, word you.

696
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: Know WHAT i.

697
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 4: MEAN i come in here And I'm i'm establishing dominance

698
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: And i'm getting rid of all of the guys who

699
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: they said were leaders Because i'm changing up the. Guard

700
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 4: and they did, it and he was our ultimate leader

701
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 4: from day, one AND i mean it.

702
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: Was it showed the way he, played it showed the

703
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: way he.

704
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 4: Led it showed in you know when when when we

705
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 4: had to JUMP shocki when him And shot got into

706
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 4: the training, Camp like it's JUST whoa.

707
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: And shaki got into a training? Camp why AM i

708
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: not heard this? Story oh, yeah they got into it

709
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: In New. Orleans that's here.

710
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 4: Practice joint practice. Here shock he was The. Saints with The,

711
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 4: saints we're getting like it's been has been getting. Chippy

712
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: miko hits him in the mouth a couple of, times

713
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden he grabs. ME i Mean i'm,

714
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: hurt and all of a, SUDDEN i come, out, no

715
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 4: itere not my Cat, Nick and all of a sudden

716
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 4: cool stops the. Film he, said, listen you hadn't played

717
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: in four, weeks you had. This why are you out

718
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 4: here in this? Fight hey, man, listen one. Fight we

719
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 4: all gonna. FIGHT i don't know about. You i'm gonna

720
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: drag his leg on the way, there you know WHAT i.

721
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 4: Mean but it, was you, know we do anything for.

722
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: Him we go to war for, him and that he's

723
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: that type of guy that that you want to go

724
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: to war, for you know WHAT i. Mean and that's

725
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 4: WHY i love seeing. Him and every DAY i see.

726
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 4: HIM i love seeing, him tell HIM i love. HIM

727
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: i love seeing his, KIDS i love SEEING i love Seeing.

728
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 4: JAMIE i just love his whole fan and half. Forever

729
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 4: because we were such LIKE i don't think people understand

730
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: how tight of a group we. ARE i think some

731
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 4: people look at like me And andre's, like, man why

732
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 4: they so? Tight we were always, together like you, KNOW

733
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 4: i would On, thursday we had d line. Night On,

734
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 4: friday the dbs might have went out On friday to

735
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 4: the receivers go, out And i'm pulling up on all

736
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 4: of them because we were like what, Else we didn't

737
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 4: have Any we weren't no, kids no. Nothing so we

738
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 4: were football nine months out the, year but we were

739
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 4: with each other all the. Time it was like college

740
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 4: all over again with how young this organization was.

741
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 3: At the, Time, travis no. Mystery the team went through

742
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: some really tough. Times when you look at two thousand

743
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: and two thousand and, one two thousand and, two what

744
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: did it mean to you and the other former, players

745
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: former teammates Of, demiko but Just texans, legends, ambassadors guys

746
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: who had played in this city and live here and

747
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: seen the tough times those very tough. Years and Then

748
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: tomiko gets hired to be the head. Coach what does that?

749
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 4: MEAN i mean it's a full circle, moment and it

750
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 4: was like we were All it's like you almost hired

751
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 4: all of us because now it was you, know some

752
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: guys wanted to access To, miko but it was, like, no,

753
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 4: man this is this is epic because you watched his

754
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: rise into coaching and you watch how he went about

755
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 4: it the same way he went about being the player he.

756
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 4: Became you watched, him you, know come in where maybe

757
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: nobody gave him as much fanfare as he probably. Deserved

758
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 4: and he learned under, guys he learned under and he,

759
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 4: became you, know more and more every day you watched

760
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 4: him get more. Responsibility you Watched kyle basically put.

761
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: Together you.

762
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: KNOW i used to know when like When coopanham got,

763
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 4: here we called ourselves The Denver broncos of The south

764
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 4: because the whole organization was like The broncos bought in.

765
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 4: Here and then then you felt Like kyle took The

766
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 4: Houston texans out, west you know What i'm, saying because

767
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: everybody in the organization were pivotal people here for the

768
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: changing of the guard to become a, player become a

769
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 4: not even a playoff, team become just a winning organization

770
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: to where we didn't have a losing, Record and you

771
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 4: watched them go do. That and then all of a,

772
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: sudden when the coaching talk comes, up and you, know

773
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 4: some people out there that was like he don't want the,

774
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 4: Job yeah he, does you, know like why wouldn't he

775
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 4: want this?

776
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: Job you know WHAT i?

777
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 4: Mean like this is this is the perfect place for.

778
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 4: Him he's, home this is, home his wife's from, here his,

779
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 4: family like like he's. Family he KNOWS i can come

780
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 4: here And i'll be EVERYTHING i want to. Be i'll

781
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 4: get the opportunity to coach it the WAY i want

782
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: to coach. It and because y'all been around the game

783
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: long enough to realize, that, like you are a direct

784
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 4: reflection of leadership when it comes to team, sports like

785
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 4: and it becomes probably military the same. Way you, know

786
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 4: your direct reflection of who your leader is and the

787
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: way he played the game is the way this team has.

788
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 4: Embodied and we knew it was gonna. Happen it just

789
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 4: was a matter like everybody was, like, oh to be

790
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 4: a couple of, years AND i told him, Again, nah

791
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 4: it's not gonna be a couple of. Years you see

792
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: it right. Away and they sitting there looking, like, nah

793
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: there's no. Way we just had, This, yes said, man

794
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 4: don't look at any of. That the way he comes

795
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: to work every day and the type of pro that he,

796
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 4: is he'll bring that same intensity and that same that

797
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 4: SAME i need y'all to be the best. MENTALITY i

798
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 4: need y'all to come to work and work a certain

799
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: type of way that's gonna trickle. Down and guess, what

800
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 4: if you don't want to do what you can leave

801
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 4: you know What i'm, saying if you don't want to do,

802
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: it we can find somebody else to do. It but

803
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 4: we're gonna demand this just the same way when he

804
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 4: demanded me to be my a. Gap i'm gonna be

805
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: there because he knows he can count on. Me he

806
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 4: knows he can count on the rest of the guys around,

807
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 4: him BECAUSE i don't want to let him. Down because

808
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: we turn on the, film you ain't gonna talk bad about,

809
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 4: me you know What i'm. Saying maybe the media might

810
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: because they don't know what they looking. At but when

811
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 4: it comes to when you turn it, on you be like,

812
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 4: playing you know What i'm, Saying or all his teammates he's.

813
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: Playing and that's the THING i think he gets out

814
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 4: of everybody else is you know they're gonna be a

815
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 4: director reflection of what he truly.

816
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: Is and that's a damn fine leader.

817
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: From having played on the defensive side back when you.

818
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: DID i gotta ask you about a guy that we

819
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: know pretty. Well hear him every day In Sports trader.

820
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: Sixteen what was like what he tell us About seth

821
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 2: back in the, Day seth Pain.

822
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 4: Well seth was A i, Mean seth was a guy

823
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: who was he was always technically, say he always knew the.

824
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 4: Game he always was a guy who you, know wanted

825
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: to be the, best wanted to be better than you

826
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: know truly.

827
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: Is but he.

828
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 4: WAS i, mean he's the guy who probably got the

829
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 4: most out of who he.

830
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: WAS i, Mean seth wasn't no.

831
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: Blazer seth wasn't no Super he wasn't, fast he wasn't you,

832
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 4: know he was, physical he held up at the point of,

833
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: attack you. Know but at the same, time you got

834
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 4: to think About seth got ten plus years in this

835
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: league in a time where those guards were a premium. Position,

836
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 4: yep you know when he got he wasn't, now he

837
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 4: Wasn't Casey, hampton he wasn't. Ted but he gave everything

838
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: he had to become the player he. Became and to

839
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 4: anybody to get the type of time he got in

840
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 4: this league and do it the way he did, it

841
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 4: you gotta respect everything that he brought to this organization

842
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 4: because and brought to every organization he was. At because

843
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: when you think about, it like in the grand scheme of,

844
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 4: it how much time is a guy from From cornell

845
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 4: Or brown or whatever Whatever ivy he went, To, yeah

846
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 4: how many how much time is a guy truly gonna

847
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 4: get in this. LEAGUE i mean they didn't have a

848
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: starting quarterback from From ivy until Until.

849
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick you know What i'm.

850
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 2: Saying like they've been hating ON ivy babies for a long,

851
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: time trap long, time long.

852
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 4: Time but it's it's the same, thing like because they

853
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 4: don't they don't, know they don't do the. Research it's

854
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 4: kind of like the two draft picks we got out

855
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 4: of our state this. Year everybody looks, like how do

856
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 4: we get To we must got an inside.

857
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: Track, no we did the. Homework you know What i'm.

858
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: Saying you did the homework.

859
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 4: To find guys that a fit and find guys that

860
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: maybe you don't, want BUT i promise you the'll be

861
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 4: stars in this league because they took the time to

862
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 4: do the research the same Way coaughlin did For seth

863
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 4: the same way people whoever did For fitz For fitzmagic

864
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 4: when he got. In when he got in the, league

865
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: you did the you did the, time you, did did the,

866
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: research and you found a guy who's gonna fit and.

867
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 4: FOREVER i mean he was a staple between him And

868
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 4: Gary walker And jacksonville those years as young. PUPPS i

869
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: mean they were like a married. Couple they hate each

870
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: other one, minute they love each other next. Minute and

871
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 4: but it was like the coolest thing to watch them

872
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: interact every single day and learn how to Be Jess

873
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: ginnia taught me how to be a. Pro he's got

874
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 4: to play the nineteen, years but my teaching becoming the

875
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 4: Pro Between, Seth gary gets a bad rap because of

876
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 4: his attitude necessarily and just how mean and certainly he always.

877
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 4: Was between those, two those are the guys who, like

878
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: this is what it's gonna, be this is what it's gonna,

879
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 4: take this is how you gotta be IN i, mean

880
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 4: you can't say enough about What seth has gotten out

881
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 4: his career and what he's done in his.

882
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 3: Time All, right one more for you now that the

883
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 3: draft is over. WITH i know you get this question

884
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: all the, time but your general assessment on where we

885
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: are at right now with The Houston texans head to

886
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: get to twenty twenty. FIVE i know we get a

887
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 3: long way to go With OTA's training, camp all of.

888
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: It but what are you thinking here in general about

889
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 3: the prospects this, Year, travis what he's seeing in this

890
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: team before we really get into.

891
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 4: It, WELL i MEAN i see JUST i see, ATTITUDE

892
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 4: i see you, KNOW i see all the intangibles that

893
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 4: you want in. Guys but THEN i see, value you,

894
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 4: KNOW i think when when you look at this, draft you,

895
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 4: know you're so, Happy like we talked about this, earlier

896
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 4: about not reaching for players and not, saying you know,

897
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 4: what this guy is the next best thing on the. Table, okay,

898
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 4: Cool but what do we do with? Him what is

899
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 4: he gonna do for? Us now we trade. BACK i

900
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 4: know a lot of people are probably why don't we

901
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 4: keep trading? Picks why we keep trading? Picks, well we're

902
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: getting value out of these. Guys and now when we

903
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 4: when we you, know three years from, now when one

904
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 4: of our receivers that we got in the fourth, round

905
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 4: maybe if we don't resign, them we're gonna get another

906
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: draft pick for, him a compensatory pick for, him and

907
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 4: he's gonna give us pro bowllesque numbers for three. Years

908
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: because right, now when we think about, it we just

909
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 4: secured up our receiver. ROOM i don't know the ins

910
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: and outs WITH i, mean, tanks, Injuries there's no WAY

911
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 4: i don't think he'll be read unless he on The

912
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 4: Adrian peterson. PLAYING i don't know if he'd be ready

913
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 4: to start the. Season you know What i'm, Saying but

914
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 4: what do we? Do we got more receivers in that

915
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 4: room to solidify with young.

916
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: Bodies.

917
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 4: Uh when you talk about the kid FROM, usc he

918
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 4: brings the same attitude and that we. Want you, know

919
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 4: you look at a team Like. Fit we're doing the

920
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 4: same things on a different level of what they're. Doing

921
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 4: When philly looking Like i'm just gonna Drive alabama And

922
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 4: georgia players just make them all and make them all,

923
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 4: one you know What i'm. Saying but we are finding

924
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 4: those gems AND i think we continue to find those.

925
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 4: Gyms you, KNOW i Told, Nick i'm, like, dude you

926
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: got the biggest balls in the, World like you're Like

927
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 4: Pedro serrano when he hit that damn home, run like

928
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 4: jogging around holding them dang suckers Like halliburton did. That

929
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 4: you hit that big shot the other night because you deserve,

930
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 4: it like you You demigo and. Whoever the rest of

931
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 4: the pro personnel guys are are getting phenomenal uh, value

932
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 4: and not just, that but guys who are gonna fit the.

933
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 4: System And i'm guessing when they came on to visit,

934
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 4: you you check their attitudes and.

935
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 1: You check the find.

936
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 4: Out you're gonna play, sideline the, sideline no seat, Belt

937
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: you're gonna play how you're gonna play this, game and

938
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 4: if you play this game the right, way we're gonna

939
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 4: we're gonna make sure you become a part of our.

940
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: Family Nice, travis always a. Pleasure, thanks it was always.

941
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: Great appreciate you.

942
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: Guys there's so Many time's legends that walk in our

943
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: studio that we talked to over the. YEARS i, MEAN

944
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 2: i can't EVEN i can't even name them all between J,

945
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: Jo Andre, Johnson, Cush Matt shab has been in our.

946
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: STUDIOS i, mean we've had so many of them over the.

947
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: Years Trap jay is still one of my favorites because

948
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: he is unabashedly honest and forthright and funny as.

949
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: Hell he is so good to talk. To well more

950
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: from Trap jay.

951
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 2: Later this, week early next, week we had a, long

952
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: long discussion with. Him that was just part of it right. There,

953
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: okay there's big news in THE nfl that actually broke this.

954
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 2: MORNING i wake. Up, look oh, man The Pittsburgh steelers

955
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: have made a. Deal we'll discuss that and then some

956
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: next right, Here Aret Texans access let's Dudd welcome back

957
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 2: To wednesday At Isha Texans All. Access Appreciate Jalen reed

958
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: for having that emotion and that excitement when he was

959
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 2: drafted by The. Texans uh not Last, Saturday saturday. Before,

960
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: boy we've already already about ten days. Removed, man incredible.

961
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: Stuff all.

962
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: Right i'm your, Host John Harris football and on THE

963
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 2: southelnd reporter for Your Houston. Texans let us go around THE.

964
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: Nfl and it started early this morning with a. NOTICE

965
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: i THINK i got it from The ATHLETIC i think

966
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: that was what popped up on my phone AND i

967
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: looked over AND i.

968
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: Thought oh, boy here we. Go So.

969
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: George, pickens, talented big time, talent Leaving pittsburgh and going

970
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: to The Dallas. Cowboys, now my Man Steve smith said

971
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: on his Podcast underdog eighty nine with my Man James,

972
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: palmer they should have seen this coming ONCE Dk metcalf

973
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: was a member of The steelers after that trade With,

974
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: Seattle picketts should have seen this.

975
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: Coming apparently, ALLEGEDLY i don't know if this is.

976
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 2: True take a for what it's, worth But Aaron rodgers

977
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: has been having throwing sessions WITH Dk Metcalf George pickens not.

978
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: Involved now we'll see If Aaron rodgers does in fact

979
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: want to play for The. Steelers BUT i got a

980
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: feeling this kind of paves the way for The steelers

981
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: a little bit more Of Aaron rodgers that he deals

982
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: WITH Dk, Metcalf he's Got Calvin austin, third is to

983
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: Have Roman wilson on the, roster so they can still

984
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 2: do some decent. Things so we'll see what happens. There

985
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: if it's Not Aaron, rodgers do they make a play

986
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: For Kirk cousins or do they Let Will howard be

987
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback for The? STEELERS h, BOY i don't

988
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: enemy The, steelers but pretty interesting stuff. There So metcalf

989
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: and a sixth goes to The, cowboys and in, return

990
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: The steelers get a twenty twenty five twenty twenty six

991
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: sorry third round pick and a twenty twenty seven fifth round.

992
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: Pick so essentially what The steaeo's got was a pick

993
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: swap in twenty twenty seven and a third round pick

994
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty.

995
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: Six not.

996
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: Bad they don't have to deal With pickens. Anymore from all,

997
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: Indications pickens is just a complete nightmare to work. With

998
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: behind the scenes And Mike tomlin's just stump, dumb done with.

999
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: It let's.

1000
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: Go we GOT dk and that's that's. It now For,

1001
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 2: dallas you add a mercurial, individual but a tremendous, player

1002
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: and you put him next To Ceedee. Lamb, now how

1003
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: Is George pickens going to be as the robin To

1004
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: Ceedee lamb's batman mains to be. Seen BUT i think

1005
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: it's a good deal for The, cowboys, honestly and they

1006
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: gave him third next. YEAR i, mean it's not, horrible

1007
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: and you get one of the more athletic and talented

1008
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: receivers in the.

1009
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: League so we'll see how that pans.

1010
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: Out But dak gets another weapon In, dallas and they

1011
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: absolutely needed. It The eagles And Dallas goddard speeding In

1012
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: dallas agreed to rework their.

1013
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: Contract his. Contract good for. Them he's. Back that's.

1014
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: Good this news coming out of Both Los angeles And.

1015
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: Hawaii The rams are going to hold their mandatory mini

1016
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: camp In. Maui Maui rams hold Their Mantory Mini camp

1017
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 2: on The island Of maui to kick off a partnership

1018
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: With Hawaii Tourism authority to promote tourism To maui And.

1019
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: Hawaii Hawaii Governor Josh green M d AND LA Rams

1020
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: President Kevin demoff and aunced Partnership wednesday at a press,

1021
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: Conference so they'll be there From monday Through thursday In.

1022
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: Maui damn. IT, Rams.

1023
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: So they got they got something going on with The

1024
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: Hawaiian Tourism, authority WHICH i, love so they'll get it

1025
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: done on My but Man mark AND, i when we

1026
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: saw that news, today we look at each other and

1027
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: we just instantaneously, went damn. It that's pretty good mode

1028
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: by THE. Rams SO i don't, know maybe you, know

1029
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: like last, year we Had hawaii O ohio in our

1030
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: future and it's a fun we'll see if there might

1031
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 2: be another one in the near. Future All, right that's

1032
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: it for the. Show appreciate you guys for being. Here

1033
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: we'll see you next, time and as, always Go.

1034
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: Texans