1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Can if I am six forty, you're listening to the 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: John and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: After four o'clock, the show becomes a podcast, John and 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Ken on Demand on the iHeart app. And I learned today. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: Here's one trick for those of you bitching and complaining 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: all the time and it's too hard. 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: To figure out the podcast. 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Just take your iPhone and say, Siri, open iHeart Radio 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: and play John and Kent. 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: Okay, that's all you do. 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: SERI open iHeart Radio and play John and Kent, and 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: we would download numbers. 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: Tell me, most people find it easily. So who are 14 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: you talking about? The ones who haven't downloaded, They come 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: up and complain to you. I have a line outside 16 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: my house every morning. 17 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: Sick of these people. Okay, get a job, leave me alone. 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: I got your Magastan picture. Yeah, isn't that funny? 19 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: But I wanted to see the guy behind this and 20 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: he's not in the picture. It's just a stand. 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: No. 22 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: I just want to see if you fit theeotypead in 23 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: my head, what he would look like. Yeah, I did, 24 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: a bearded guy with a big cowboy hat. 25 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: I didn't want to cross six lanes of traffic to 26 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: go see him. 27 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: So no, it's pretty amusic though John's talking about this 28 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: isn't the valley somewhere. 29 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: No, this was in Brentwood. He's normally in the valley. 30 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: Debor and Eric have both seen this guy. He's unturble. 31 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: So he folds up that whole stand and takes it 32 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: to different locations and stands there selling Trump merchandise. 33 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, at least he's working. 34 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: We begin the hour by talking to Alex Stone, ABC 35 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: News for KFI the latest on the fires in Hawaii, 36 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: particularly the island of Maui and that village of Leahina 37 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 3: which burnt. Let's get Alex on the air to talk 38 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: about the latest on the people they're still looking for. 39 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and some who they're identifying. Guys. 40 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: We knew it was coming at some point, but using DNA, 41 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: they've now identified the first child among the human remains 42 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: that they've collected, a seven year old boy named Tony 43 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: Takafua and the first child being identified. This comes as 44 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: there have been growing conspiracy theories on the island, and 45 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: a lot of them fueled by quote unquote investigative reporters 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: who report on Twitter and Steve Bannon's online show and 47 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: others claiming that there are tons of children who they 48 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: aren't releasing and that they're hiding the data on the children. 49 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: There's no evidence of that. They have said from the 50 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: beginning that there are children, that they know that there 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: were children who were killed, but that they are not 52 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: getting complete bodies, that they only know that their children 53 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: based on the tiny bones that have been left beyond. 54 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: Remember many of. 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: The victims were cremated by the fire when it came through, 56 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: and that they've got to have DNA to match it too, 57 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: and in many cases the entire family died or they 58 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: don't have any DNA yet. So from the beginning, the 59 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 1: governor has been saying there are children because as I've 60 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: shared one car, for example, had a family of four, 61 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: and he says that they know another family of seven 62 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: and others, and the kids were at home that day 63 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: because school was canceled. So if their parents were at 64 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: work or at the resorts nearby in Kannapoly and couldn't 65 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: get home to them, or even if the family couldn't 66 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: get out, they know there are going to be children 67 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: now the first one there. But at this point the 68 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: police chief is saying guys that much like he's likening 69 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: it to nine to eleven, where people went to work 70 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: that day in New York they never came home, but 71 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: they also never found their remains that they were consumed 72 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: by the explosion and the collapse and the fire. In 73 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: this case, some people may have been totally consumed and 74 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: they're just going to have to presume that they died 75 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: and never actually find the remains. 76 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: He put it like this, I can't guarantee, nor can 77 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 4: anyone say that we got everybody. We're going to do 78 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: our darnedest to get it right and make every effort 79 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 4: to do that. 80 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: And they are trying to work through that missing list. 81 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: So the FBI they've got eleven hundred names on their 82 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: missing list, and in the confusion and the fog of war, 83 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: and you could argue failure of the county, they did 84 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: not do an official missing list at the beginning. So 85 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: all these grassroots groups and organizations they did their own. 86 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: And so then you add three or four different lists 87 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: that we're running around, and what was the data for 88 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: and how did they take people off of the list 89 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: and add them to the list. So you've got tons 90 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: of names on there. What the FBI is now trying 91 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: to do is authenticate those names, and out of the 92 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: eleven hundred, they've got three hundred eighty eight now that 93 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: they are saying, these are verified names, they are real people. 94 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: They have a first name and a last name and 95 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: a point of contact, and they cannot find them. 96 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: Versus Bill. You know who is Bill? 97 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: You put that out there, everybody's going to know a 98 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: Bill who lived on Maui and that doesn't help out. 99 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: They're putting out the three hundred eighty eight verified names 100 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: to say, do you know these people? Do you know 101 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: somebody who lives on Maui or was vacationing on Maui 102 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: on the day of the fire. If you know they're alive, 103 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: let us know. 104 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 4: And the chief added, we are asking if you're on 105 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 4: this list, please contact the FBI number provided. If you 106 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 4: know the person is safe, please contact the FBI and 107 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: number provided, or email MPD at unaccounted at MPD dot net. 108 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: So essentially what they're doing is crowd sourcing now trying 109 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: to bring the numbers down. The cadaver dogs are still 110 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: in they're searching right now. They're searching today. The number 111 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: of dead has been sitting at one hundred and fifteen 112 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: for the last couple of days has not been going up. 113 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: But they know a lot of people. 114 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: Are still missing, and so now they're kind of getting 115 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: to the point where they're saying, we cannot find these people. 116 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: If you know, somebody let them know. I must be behind. 117 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: On the conspiracy stuff, people believe that they're hiding the 118 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 3: deaths of children. 119 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so at news conferences now, there are all kinds 120 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: of people, but generally Twitter investigative reporters who are showing 121 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: up and yelling you mean X, yeah, I'm sorry X. 122 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: So these are a bunch of randows that show up. 123 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: These are people who show up and claim that that 124 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: they have sources who are telling them things and that 125 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: they're investigative. Of course, a following on acts of people 126 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: who are saying, you know, good job for what you're doing, 127 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: and you're you're digging on this and you're getting in there. 128 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: So they yell where are the children? And they badger 129 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: the mayor and the governor and the police chief. There's 130 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: been a lot of kind of crazy stuff that has 131 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: gone on on the island. There is no proof that 132 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: hiding the children is one of those that is going It. 133 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: Just make stuff up. Now, this is there. They took 134 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: them for a sex ring, that's what they did. Yeah. 135 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: You know, there are all kinds of beliefs out there, 136 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: and when you hear it, you go what and then 137 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: it takes off and people run with it, and then 138 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: locals believe it. 139 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: It's a new form of entertainment. Yeah, it is. 140 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: It's always a conspiracy, all right, Alex, thank you very 141 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: much for that update. 142 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: You got it. Thanks guys. 143 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: Alex Stone on the grim news that they may never 144 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: know the identities of some of the victims in the 145 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: Hawaii fire is particularly the area of Lahina, the village, 146 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: because they were burnt so badly. You know, it's tough 147 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: to find the remains and then do the proper testing 148 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: to match. 149 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: And if everybody's incinerated in the neighborhood, you know who's 150 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: going to report anybody missing? Is all the people to say? 151 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: Are their parents looking for children that are missing or 152 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: did they die too? 153 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: Right? 154 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: If there are parents looking, see the parents would have 155 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: many times died with the children, the whole family would 156 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: be gone, right, which reduces the number of people who 157 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: could say, hey, these these people are missing. 158 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: When we return, we now focus on the cause and 159 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: of course the main suspect, the company of interest is 160 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: called Hawaiian Electric, and in fact, the County of Maui 161 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: has actually filed a lawsuit against that company for its 162 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: power lines. We'll talk about that. We'll also talk about 163 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: some lawyers representing victims of the fires in Hawaii also 164 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: alleging that this company sent out workers to remove possible 165 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: evidence that their power is the most believable story. 166 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: I don't think pged ever did that too that I'm. 167 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: Saying they're probably pissed off, saying we should have thought 168 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,559 Speaker 1: of it. We should have thought it would have saved 169 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: a lot of money. 170 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: All Right, we'll get to these stories where we return 171 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 3: Johnny Ken KFI AM six forty Live everywhere iHeartRadio app. 172 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 173 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 174 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: Well, we know a little bit about wildfires in the 175 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: state of California, and we do know that one of 176 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: the largest, if not the largest, utility, Pacific Gas and Electric, 177 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: has had its problems when its power lines go down 178 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: and start fires. So what they started doing, especially after 179 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: the twenty eighteen Paradise fire that killed all those people, 180 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: is shut the power lines down when there's reports of 181 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 3: big wins coming. 182 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: They don't do this. 183 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: In Hawaii matter of fame. Fact, they don't do this 184 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: really in any other state. How effective that is yet, 185 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 3: we don't certainly know for sure. But the problem now 186 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: in Hawaii is that there is a lawsuit that's been 187 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 3: filed by the County of Maui against one of the 188 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: big utilities there are called Hawaiian Electric Company, and they 189 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: are all in this lawsuit. Well, you can guess that 190 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: the power lines from this company went down and started 191 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: some of these fires. 192 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: In fact, there are. 193 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: Reports from people who lived in the area. Several people 194 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: reported utility equipment igniting fires in the hills above Lahina. 195 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: Woman said she was leaving for work when she heard 196 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: a power transformer blow in a field nearby. It sparked 197 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 3: the fireworks and landed in a tall grass that started 198 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: the fire, said this woman. So you do criminals try 199 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 3: to do most of the time what other criminals try 200 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: to do. You collect the evidence and make it disappear. Right, 201 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 3: you throw the gun in the lake. Well, Hawaiian Electric 202 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 3: Hall make sure the body's not found. Sure, but nobody 203 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: no case. 204 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: Dispose of as much evidence as possible to make it 205 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: much more difficult for the prosecution because it doesn't matter 206 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: that they know you did it. They have to prove 207 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: it with evidence in a court. So you have to 208 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: eliminate the evidence. So this Hawaiian Electric they went to 209 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: work and they're hauling away the electric poles, the power lines, 210 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 1: the transformers, to conductors, everything just disappeared. 211 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: It's like, why, what did we don't. 212 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 3: That's funny you said that because Hawaiian Electric issued a 213 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: statement about this lawsuit by Mawie County and they said 214 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: they did that whole thing, Like, oh, we're still trying 215 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: to assess the damage and collect the dead, and they're 216 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: doing this, they're already bringing up litigation. 217 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: A full investigation has not even been completed yet. 218 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because if it does, they won't find anything 219 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 3: until had guys go out removed. That shows you it says, yeah, 220 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 3: they remove fallen poles, power lines, transformers, conductors. 221 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: This is according now to lawyers. Sure for some of 222 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: the victims, when they try to pull the shame card, 223 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: they put up the shame shield. How dare you? There's 224 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: a time for grief. How dare you? 225 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: It was like the governor going after Steve Gregory last 226 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: week Oh, you're trampling on their dead body. People have 227 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: been incinerated to dust. It's like, all right, how guilty 228 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: do you? 229 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: You're still trying to process this. How dare you jump 230 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: ahead and sue? I just off the top of. 231 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: My head, I can't think of a group that have 232 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: killed more people than electricilities. Yeah, utility executives, because they 233 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: killed they killed by the hundred. 234 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, honestly. I mean we went through the 235 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 3: whole story with Pacific Acid Electric. The Wall Street Journal 236 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: did a great series of stories that how over the 237 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: years they just skipped maintenance and skip and as you 238 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: said before, they've resisted, you know, undergrounding these lines and 239 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: areas that are prone to these high winds. 240 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: Right. 241 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: And and because these executives either want to keep the 242 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: stock price up or they are judged on their financial 243 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: results at the end of the year, so they have 244 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: to keep cross down well maintenance very costly, putting power 245 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: line underground very costly. That would impact their bonuses or 246 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: their stock price, so they. 247 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: Don't do it. 248 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: And I remember the crowd that was running PG and 249 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: E during the Paradise Fire era. Some of them eventually 250 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: were forced out, but they ran off with multimillion dollar 251 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: golden parachutes. 252 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: They did get huge deals, yet and they never said boo, 253 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: never apologized about all the death they caused, all the destruction, 254 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 2: and they were never forced to. They were protected by 255 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: Newsom and the legislature because they had bought everyone off, 256 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: even Newsom's wife. 257 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: Now, oddly, the government agency that's investigating this is ATF alcohol, tobacco, firearms. 258 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: I think there's usually an E added now explosives, because 259 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: the fires were not on any national forest lands. ATF 260 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: is the primary federal investigative force. This is only their 261 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: third wild land fire investigation. But the complaint is that 262 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: they got there and it looked like, well they're not 263 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: saying that yet, but they were lawyers saying that looked 264 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: like there had been some tampering with the evidence, so 265 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 3: to speak, that they may have moved some of the 266 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: damning and damaging the evidence of the scene that they're down. 267 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,479 Speaker 2: Power lines were responsible. 268 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: You know, when they start putting utility executives in prison, 269 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: then you'll see behavior change. Then you'll see that maintenance 270 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: will be kept up to date. You'll see power lines 271 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: there'll be a big project to put them underground. I 272 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: don't want to hear how how it's too expensive. I 273 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: think this is a little more expensive. You know. 274 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 6: I live up in the hills, and I think I 275 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 6: told you this John off the air that I was 276 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 6: walking I think it was two weekends ago, and I've 277 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 6: been noticing the DWP workers where they had the street 278 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 6: shut down and they've been working on the street. And 279 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 6: I asked him, I said, what are you guys doing 280 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 6: And they said, oh, we're we're putting up new power lines. 281 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 6: And I said, why are you taking down old ones 282 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 6: and putting up new ones? Why don't you bury them? 283 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 6: Oh that's too expensive that loll owners have to pay 284 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 6: for that. 285 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 286 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: Right, And those guys there's DWP workers are making fortunes. 287 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: They're all making six figures from that fat corrupt union 288 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: that they work for, and so the money goes to 289 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: them and not into putting the lines underground. 290 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: So a couple of things, they don't have a thing 291 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: like CalFire in Hawaii. Cal Fire, of course in California 292 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: immediately sends out investigators. 293 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: So that's why the ATF has to do this. 294 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: And there's a law firm that claims that they sent 295 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: out workers to remove some of the evidence. Now Hawaiian 296 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: Electric They had quite a response here. We took reasonable 297 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: steps to preserve our own property. It is possible, even likely, 298 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: that the actions of third parties we do not control 299 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: may have result in the loss of property or other 300 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: items related to the cause of the fire. What so, 301 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: vandals went out there and grabbed some of your equipment 302 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: and removed it because what they make money off of it? 303 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: Because burned out electrical equipment is really valuable to resell. 304 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: Right, they may stop it. They're such, They're just dogs. 305 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: They're all a bunch of dogs covering their asses. 306 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 5: All right. 307 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: When we return, our guest will be Chip Rogers, who's 308 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: president and CEO of the American Hotel and Lodging Association. 309 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: If you're a Los Angeles City voter, this is gonna 310 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: be on the ballot next year. It's quite simple. The 311 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: hotels have to take in the vagrants. Then I explained it, Well, 312 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: that is what and this is the union, the union 313 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: for these striking hotel workers got enough signatures to get 314 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: this on the ballot. We'll talk about the details and 315 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: we'll talk to Chip Rogers about this. 316 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: That's weird, it's effective. The unions want want the mental 317 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: patients and the drug addicts. 318 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: I don't get that that this has been part of 319 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: their bargaining with the hotels. 320 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: They want more done for the homeless. I don't know. 321 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: It's strange. 322 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: Well, well, they're they're they're union workers are now going 323 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: to have to cater to these guests. 324 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: All right, that's our next story. 325 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: Johnny KENKFIAM six forty Live everywhere iHeartRadio app. 326 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 327 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 328 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: All right, Well, we've talked about this a few times before, 329 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: but we're going to talk about it more in depth 330 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: with a guest. 331 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: There is a ballot. 332 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: Measure coming up next year on the primary ballot for 333 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: Los Angeles City voters that basically will make the hotels 334 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: report vacancies and perhaps taken the vagrants. Not kidding him, 335 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: We're gonna talk to Chip Rogers, president and CEO of 336 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: American Hotel and Lodging Association. The city council put this 337 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 3: on the ballot. Apparently the union collected enough signatures to 338 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 3: reach the ballot. And this is the same union that's 339 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: representing these striking hotel workers. You unite here Local eleven. 340 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: So let's get Chip on and talk more about this 341 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: incredibly weird ballot measure. 342 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 2: Chip. Welcome to Johnny can. 343 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 7: Guy. It's great to be with you. 344 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: Most people don't want to live in a hotel with vagrants, 345 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: drug addicts, mental patients. Why do the union members want 346 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: this on the ballot? 347 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 7: It's pretty amazing, is and then think about what's happened here. 348 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 7: So the union takes money from their own members to 349 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 7: create a ballot measure that would put dangerous people in 350 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 7: the presence of their members. And so they're taking their 351 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 7: money to put them in danger. I don't if I'm 352 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 7: a union worker or unite here in Los Angeles, I'm 353 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 7: going to kick out the leadership. I mean, this is insanity. Look, 354 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 7: homelessness is a very serious problem. In fact, ninety eight 355 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 7: percent of the people in our poll in Los Angeles 356 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 7: said it's a serious problem. I've never seen any question 357 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 7: poll ninety eight percent, So we know that's a fact. 358 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 7: But this is not a serious answer. Those people need help. 359 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: Go ahead, what's the point of this. It's going to 360 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: make a dangerous situation for the union members. It can 361 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: put hotels out of business. There's plenty people who are 362 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: going to say I'm not going in there. I'm just 363 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: not going to Los Angeles if there's homeless people in 364 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: all the hotels. 365 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 7: Well, this is exactly what's going to happen. And this 366 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 7: is what happens when you make decisions based on emotion 367 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 7: and not logic. So the emotion was, Hey, how do 368 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 7: we you know, how do we help our hire more 369 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 7: housekeepers so we can get more union workers. Well, let's 370 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 7: fill up every room. What's the best way to fill 371 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 7: up every room? Let's help these people on the streets. 372 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 7: Like that doesn't make any sense at all, because what 373 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 7: you just suggested is exactly what's going to happen. People 374 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 7: are not going to stay in hotels in Los Angeles 375 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 7: and there will be no hotel jobs because there won't 376 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 7: be any hotels. This is the worst idea that I've 377 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 7: ever seen make it to a ballot. 378 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: Now, the reason to fill up every room exactly? H Well, 379 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: I mean have you read the ballot measure chipped? Is 380 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: it really? 381 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 3: I mean literally, it does work like that hotels have 382 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 3: to tell the city that they have empty rooms and 383 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: then they might have to take. 384 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: In the vagrants. 385 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 7: Oh guys, it's even worse than that. There's other parts 386 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 7: of the ballot measure I won't get into today that 387 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 7: are not as bad but really bad. But this particular 388 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 7: part of the ballot measure says that at two pm 389 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 7: every day, every hotel in the city of Los Angeles 390 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 7: would be required to call city hall. Now can you 391 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 7: imagine how that's going to work if they won't answer 392 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 7: your phone? Now, but can you imagine at two o'clock 393 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 7: every hotel calling all at once. They have to report 394 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 7: the number of rooms they have available for that evening, 395 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 7: and they have to report what their daily rate is. 396 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 7: The city will then take vouchers and hand them out 397 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 7: the homeless people, so that the homeless guest is going 398 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 7: to and you cannot discriminate. It's not like you can 399 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 7: put them in a special section of the hotel. They 400 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 7: have to be just like any other paying guests. So 401 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 7: they're going to be in the breakfast line the next morning, 402 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 7: they're going to be at the pool, they're going to 403 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 7: be in the lobby, and they're going to be in 404 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 7: the room next door to you. And these are people 405 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 7: who need medical help. Hotel employees are not trained to 406 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 7: help them. 407 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: Yes, that is not like any other hotel guests. 408 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: So this will destroy the hotel business. That's not well, 409 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: you just laid out will only happen once. If I'm 410 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: as soon as there's an incident, that's going to do it. 411 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 2: What woman is going to want to stay in a 412 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: hotel where you have crack addicted, meth addicted vagrants stumbling around. 413 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 7: And this is yeah, look we've already seen this happen. 414 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 7: I mean, there's a great report out of Stanford University, 415 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 7: not exactly a bastion of conservative conservativism, that talks about 416 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 7: the percentage of people that are without homes, the unsheltered, 417 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 7: the percentage that have drug dependency, the percentage that have 418 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 7: a violent history, the percentage who need medical help, and 419 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 7: it's somewhere between twenty five and fifty percent. And now 420 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 7: you're going to put them in a place where it's 421 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 7: going to make the guests in danger and the hotel workers. 422 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 7: If I'm a union member, I'm going after my union 423 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 7: leadership and saying, why are you doing this? Tony? 424 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: Well, why aren't. 425 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 7: They Well you'll have to ask them. 426 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: What makes me think that the union workers have bought 427 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: into this and they support what the union leaders do. 428 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 7: Well, there's a lot of stories out there about Project 429 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 7: Room Key, which is a California project that takes over 430 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 7: an entire hotel. It actually brings in nurses, it brings 431 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 7: in people to help the homeless when they take over 432 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 7: an entire hotel, But there's still somebody that has to 433 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 7: clean the room. Those workers are even complaining about it. 434 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 7: And that's in a controlled environment. This would be an 435 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 7: uncontrolled environment. 436 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: Well, in Project Room Key, that was voluntary, the hotels 437 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 3: agreed to participate in that. But this would be more mandatory, 438 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 3: would it not. 439 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 7: Well, not only do they have to agree, they take 440 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 7: over the entire hotel, so it essentially becomes a shelter. 441 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 7: It's no longer a hotel, all right, but somebody's got 442 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 7: to clean the rooms. 443 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: The parent companies that own four Seasons, Riz, Carlton Holiday Inn, 444 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, just every range of mid middle class to 445 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: upper class hotel. They don't have the money to squash 446 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: this thing. 447 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 7: Well, we'll have to see about that because it is 448 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 7: a campaign, and we believe that the average voter, when 449 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 7: they understand what's on the ballot, will reject this wholeheartedly. 450 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 7: I mean, this is utter nonsense. Yeah, you know, the 451 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 7: average LA citizen is trying to make it to day. 452 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 7: No one's giving them a boucher to go stay at 453 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 7: a nice hotel. They should just reject this because it's 454 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 7: fundamentally wrong everywhere you look at it. 455 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: Now, this business with the fair market rate, Is it 456 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: possible that a rich Carlton would give a rate that 457 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: the city doesn't want to pay so they wouldn't send 458 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 2: the vagrants there. We're talking about maybe a b hotels 459 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: that are more in the lower end. 460 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, it is possible, and it's also going to depend on, 461 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 7: you know, which hotels actually have open rooms that night. 462 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, if the message 463 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 7: is the city of Los Angeles is taking homeless people 464 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 7: and putting them into the hotel next to you, and 465 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 7: you just got to kind of take a chance as 466 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 7: to whether someone's going to come in. No, one's gonna No, 467 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 7: one's going to book a room. So it's going to 468 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 7: destroy every hotel. 469 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 2: No, And you made the best point before. 470 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: The workers who are part of this union should also 471 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: object because they'll be subject to the same conditions with 472 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: the people staying there. Well, you want to you want 473 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: to be a housekeeper, a woman in a hallway with 474 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 3: a bunch of crazed drug addicts. 475 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: You want to go clean up that you're gonna You're 476 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: gonna get attacked. 477 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 7: I mean, it's as if you would take the housekeepers 478 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 7: right now and send them down the skid road and say, 479 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 7: why don't you clean up this place. You would never 480 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 7: do that. It's dangerous, right, But that's what's going to 481 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 7: happen inside these hotels. 482 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: This is maybe the nuttiest proposition I've ever I. 483 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: Almost didn't believe it was real when I saw it 484 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 3: a few months ago. I still actually he's going to 485 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: be on the ballot, but that's a big no. When 486 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: our voter guy, well, Chip, thank you very much for 487 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 3: coming on. We'll probably talk to you again before. Is 488 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 3: this March it's. 489 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 7: Coming up, it's in March, Yes, all right, we'll. 490 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: Probably talk to you again closer to the vote time. 491 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on. 492 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 7: Thanks guys. 493 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: Thanks as Chip Rogers, president and CEO of the American 494 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: Hotel and Lodging Association, and well, they're trying to get 495 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: the word out to vote no. There's a ballot measure 496 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: coming next March for LA voters that would force the 497 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 3: hotels to take in the vagas, they to report their vacancies. 498 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: They really want to destroy the city. 499 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: This crowd, this crowd of progressiors want to destroy the 500 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: city and they've. 501 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 2: Already half done it. Why why do you want to 502 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: destroy the city? Has best SETI or anybody taking a 503 00:23:59,240 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: position on this. 504 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: It's like the city council was like, well, they got 505 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 3: enough signatures anyway, we'll just put it on the ballot. 506 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: But has any of the I don't know, jerks. 507 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 3: The only one I remember years ago was Mike Bonnan 508 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 3: who wanted to force some of the high end downtown 509 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 3: LA hotels to take in the vagrant. Remember that he 510 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 3: tried to do that, like some sort of takeover thing. 511 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 2: Only psychotic people who'd be in favor of this? 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The body was 523 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 3: discovered just after seven am on the stairs of the 524 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: Metro Green Line station on Long Beach Boulevard and Linwood. 525 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 2: A burned body. That's why Metro is the first choice 526 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: for trans daunted. 527 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: To reports of a trash fire and then they found 528 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 3: a burnt guy. 529 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: So they thought it was a pile of trash that 530 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: somebody reported. 531 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: They thought there was trash on fire, and it could 532 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 3: be a vagrant who got set on fire. But you know, 533 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 3: maybe another vagrant or some other if only they were 534 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: allowed into the hotels, that's the answer, John, Just find 535 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: them housing. 536 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: You'll be walking out of the Rich Carlton and you'd 537 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: see a guy burning in your hallway. 538 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 2: Because the Union wanted that we. 539 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: Now go to San Francisco where I mentioned yesterday and 540 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: now we have the results. They were going to have 541 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 3: a news conference to announce measures they were going to 542 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: take to stop the car break ins. And while they 543 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 3: were setting up the news conferences, somebody's car, a tourist car, 544 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 3: got busted into. So they're launching a new series of 545 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: operations and one of them is. 546 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 2: Uh, decoy cars. 547 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: They're gonna but San Francisco Police Department's gonna plant cars 548 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: on the streets. 549 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 2: They're bait cars. 550 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 3: So that I guess they're gonna monitor them, surveil them, 551 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: and then if those guys come along and break into them, 552 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 3: they'll be right there to nab them. And then what well, 553 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 3: they believe, like the smashing grabs, these are small organized 554 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 3: rings that do this. As you like to say, Johnny, 555 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 3: it is a small percentage people that commit a high 556 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 3: percentage of the crime. Yes, so they think if they 557 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: can nab you know, a few dozen of these guys, right, 558 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 3: they may put a dent to. 559 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: The problem, right, but they'll be let they'll be let 560 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: go because when you when you steal a bag at 561 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: the back of somebody's car, that is. 562 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 3: A low level, nonviolent, very good. That's a misdemeanor and 563 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 3: there's no bail and it's a misdemeanor. And so I 564 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: don't understand. This is just theater to try to convince 565 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: the public are on top of this. 566 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna stop all the smash and grab robberies. 567 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: You'll see. 568 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: No, they're not gonna stop anything unless you unless the 569 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: guy absolutely goes to prison for a long time. 570 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what we should do if we could 571 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 3: look into nonsense, because supposedly back when this was happening 572 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: with smashing grabs in LA in twenty twenty one. They 573 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 3: nabbed some of those people. I'd like to know, But yeah, 574 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 3: you're right. What kind of prison sentence did they get 575 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 3: where as you said when they released like a two 576 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 3: days later. 577 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure they were. That's the thing. 578 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: You don't see anybody. You don't see Karen Bessetti, you 579 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: don't see Gascon, you don't see Michael Moore, that the 580 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: LAPD chief. Yeah, he's a waste. Why don't you hold 581 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: a press conference? Mister take a knee if it's right, 582 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: I guess he's always on his knees every time I 583 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: see him. Why don't you stand up on your feet 584 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: and hold a press conference and tell us how all 585 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: these guys have been in prison for the last year 586 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: and a half. 587 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 2: That's what I want to hear. 588 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: That's what everybody wants to hear, that all the smash 589 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: and grabbers from November December twenty twenty one have been 590 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: in prison ever since. If you come out and say, well, actually, 591 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: they only spent about six days in jail, then I 592 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: know it's the same guys running around doing the same 593 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: thing because there was no consequence. And if there's no consequence. 594 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: All your stupid cast force bait cars is garbage. What 595 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: do you think I'm an idiot? You think we're all morons. 596 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, a new poll from Gallup reveals that half the 597 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 3: country think San Francisco is a dangerous city. In two 598 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 3: thousand and six, seventy percent said they thought the city 599 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 3: was safe. It's dropped now of fifty two percent in 600 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 3: the latest survey. No surprise. Seattle Minneapolis also had big 601 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: perceptions of not being safe in the latest poll. They've 602 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: all fallen during the past seventeen years. Yeah, what are 603 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: those cities have in common? Seattle, of course had the 604 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 3: big uprising in twenty twenty. Remember that where. 605 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: The Antifa people took over. 606 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: Yes, well those the apples, of course, is where George 607 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 3: Floyd was killed, and that had a lot of problems. 608 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: And of course San Francisco we've chronicled. These are all 609 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: defined Chicago too. 610 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah surprising. 611 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because these these are all the progressive experiments, 612 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: one of them. So people have watched now patiently for 613 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: the last three years, and it's like, oh, this is anarchy, 614 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: this is mayhem. If I go there, I'm gonna die. Honestly, 615 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: your chance to dine in San Francisco is much higher 616 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: than if you go to many other cities in this country. 617 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: So people aren't gonna go. 618 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: Of course, like with most polls, three quarters so the 619 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 3: Democrats polled said San Francisco is safe. Only thirty two 620 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: percent of Republicans held the same queue. Most Democrats were 621 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: likely to believe all of the cities were safe except 622 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: for two two and those were Chicago and Detroit. Those 623 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: are the only two cities Democrats picked out and went, 624 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 3: what is it? 625 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: What has to happen in San Francisco to convince this crowd? 626 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: They mean, they don't think cart break ins is a 627 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: big problem. I guess you know. 628 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 3: I'd love to take them on the Chicago there's a 629 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 3: lot of homicide. Why don't they take They should They 630 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: should have a tour of the Tenderloin district. 631 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: Detect all these people who say San Francisco is actually safe. 632 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: You go stand in the Tenderloin district for three hours, 633 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: just stand there and see what happens to you. 634 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: Just stand there, just stand there. Let's see if you 635 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: make it. I dare you, you fools? 636 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: All right, when we return, we're here the three o'clock 637 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: hour on a Friday. I'm not sure what's going to 638 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 3: be in the Moistline bag because we both of us 639 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 3: weren't here the first three days. 640 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: What are we getting next hour? Because yeah, Eric, what 641 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: are we getting? You'll just have to wait and find out. 642 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: All right, all right, that's a good promo. He doesn't 643 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: give us bad stuff. When we return. 644 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: Steve Gregory is coming on. Maybe today's different. 645 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: The shocking news of the arrest of a fourteen year old. 646 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: A fourteen year old in connection with several murders. My 647 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: guess it's probably gang related. He'll give us all the 648 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: details and then we'll have the Moistline callers. Johnny Ken 649 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 3: KFI AM six forty live everywhere iHeartRadio app. 650 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 651 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: You can always hear us live ONKFI AM six forty 652 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, and 653 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.