WEBVTT - Josh Marshall & Rep. Robert Garcia 

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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<v Speaker 1>where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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<v Speaker 1>today's best minds. And the FBI has paid over one

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars in overtime to redact the Epstein files. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder what they're redacting. We have such a great show

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<v Speaker 1>for you today, talking Points Memos own Josh Marshall stops

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<v Speaker 1>by to talk Trump's insane adventures to bring America into war.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we'll talk to Oversight Committee Chairman Congressman Robert Garcia

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<v Speaker 1>about the latest tranch of Epstein files. But first we

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<v Speaker 1>have the stories the media is missing.

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<v Speaker 2>So BALI people are perplexed today. There's this Democratic representative, Henriquoilar,

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<v Speaker 2>who has been a controversial figure the backbench world of

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<v Speaker 2>democratic politics because he's one of the debsoli pro wife congressmen.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people are very bad at Democratic leadership

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<v Speaker 2>for running him in the first place. And then he

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<v Speaker 2>got accused with his wife of some little corrupt mistealings.

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<v Speaker 3>And now mister Trump has pardoned him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, mister Trump has pardoned him because crimes. What are crimes?

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is like on a pardoning spree here, pardoning everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who does crimes. I mean, maybe not everyone, but almost everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>These were several former democratic he granted clemency. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been other Democratic elected officials. Which he posted on

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<v Speaker 1>truth quote unquote social that the Biden administration had weaponized

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<v Speaker 1>the justice system to prosecute Quohlar because he bravely spoke

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<v Speaker 1>out against the Biden border catastrophe. That is not true.

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<v Speaker 1>You can not like Quahlar, you cannot like Biden. You

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<v Speaker 1>can be upset about the border. But none of these

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<v Speaker 1>things are connected to each other. Because of these facts

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<v Speaker 1>and others, the others being that he loves to pardon people.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hereby announcing my full an unconditional pardon of beloved

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Congressman. I'm not sure he's beloved. The President added

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<v Speaker 1>he will also pardon his wife, the applely named Amelda,

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<v Speaker 1>as well. She was under indictment on the same charges

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<v Speaker 1>as her husband, just like another Amelda.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a picture of a shoe closet of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, immediately, parents, don't name your child Amelda unless

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<v Speaker 1>you are ready for.

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<v Speaker 2>What less you what people our age here? That was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the first news stories you saw. Birded your brain.

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<v Speaker 1>We both are obsessed but you know, let me just

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<v Speaker 1>add Melda Marcos's son went on to be the President

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<v Speaker 1>of the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 2>True, we should say the accusations were taking six hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars of bribes. And one of the things I

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<v Speaker 2>really find gross about this is a Democratic Minority leader,

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<v Speaker 2>Hakim Jeffries, said that the charges were really thin anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>And it really is just you got to wonder what

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<v Speaker 2>the leadership was doing supporting this guy in the first place,

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<v Speaker 2>and then what the hell they're even doing right now

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<v Speaker 2>with statements like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we know what they're doing, which is because Representative

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<v Speaker 1>Quailar is now running for Congress as a Democrat, So

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<v Speaker 1>we know the deal that Hikeem is making. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a deal that we might make, but we know what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The question now is is do we have an Eric

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<v Speaker 2>Adams and the House of Representatives that is under Trump's control.

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<v Speaker 1>You wish you had an Eric Adams in the House

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<v Speaker 1>of Representatives.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want any other Eric Adams.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you want to turn your haters into waiters at

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<v Speaker 1>the table of success.

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<v Speaker 2>I wake up at the boarding. I repeat that as

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<v Speaker 2>a meditation about trow to make sure I go it

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<v Speaker 2>to each day like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, every episode of this podcast, I am contractually

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<v Speaker 1>mandated to say, turn your haters into waiters at the

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<v Speaker 1>table of success.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, yes, we can't fix people are contractually mandated

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<v Speaker 2>to do. At least, Defodoc is mad dated to try

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<v Speaker 2>to call attention to herself because she believes it's very

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<v Speaker 2>weird these upstate people who believe that they are destined

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<v Speaker 2>for bigger things. Her Andrew Clobo that everybody else looks

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<v Speaker 2>at them and they're like, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Your like a backbench personality at best. She is putting

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of signals out that she's coming for leadership

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<v Speaker 2>to replace Mike Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not what I think is happening here.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me what you think is happening, because that seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be the conventional wisdom on Twitter right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I think is happening here is that at

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<v Speaker 1>least Devonic is running for governor of New York State.

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats are probably going to win governor of New York State,

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<v Speaker 1>even with Kathy Hokeel, who is like not the most popular.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still hard for me to imagine with the ships

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing in the electorate that elis devonic can get

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<v Speaker 1>a win here. But in order for her to even try,

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<v Speaker 1>she needs to fight with Republican leadership. She needs to

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<v Speaker 1>look like she's an independent. And so I think what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening here is it's very easy to fight with Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson and it will give her some you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>she starts fighting with Trump, that's going to be that's

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<v Speaker 1>like picking a fight with a velociraptor, whereas picking a

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<v Speaker 1>fight with good old Mike Johnson. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>theatrics honestly interesting. First of all, Mike Johnson was installed

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<v Speaker 1>by Donald Trump, so in order for her to get

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<v Speaker 1>him out, she would have to go to Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe Donald Trump decides he doesn't need Mike Johnson anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>But so far Mike Johnson has been a loyal servant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think by one thing is never underestimate the

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<v Speaker 2>delusional aspirations of a personality with loser like her.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's running for governor.

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<v Speaker 2>She's tried to elevate her profile into whatever she could

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<v Speaker 2>get it right.

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<v Speaker 1>But fighting with him elevates her profile. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't see it. I think, Okay, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is like one of these plays where she can

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<v Speaker 1>go back and be like, look, I'm so independent.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Molly, I welcome you to put up a better'd

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<v Speaker 2>be again one of those sites that I will bet

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<v Speaker 2>session one of those sites I will never use.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, let's bet on politics, because that is a very

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<v Speaker 1>good thing for people will write about politics to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kidding, we're definitely not doing that. Also, I don't bet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I don't either. Okay, we have to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about people who delusionally believed in themselves, but we always

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<v Speaker 2>saw they had the juice when we saw how much

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<v Speaker 2>their yosification of their look worked, which is Christino. She

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<v Speaker 2>says that we need more travel bands.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the problem, is the travel band.

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<v Speaker 4>Look.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had a CIA, a guy from Afghanistan who

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<v Speaker 1>worked for the CIA, and he killed a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the National Guard. And from this, Republicans they wanted a villain, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to be able to lock down the immigration

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<v Speaker 1>from Afghanistan. But here's the problem. This guy was working

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<v Speaker 1>for the CIA. So in order to try to make

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<v Speaker 1>it make sense, they don't give a fuck. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>just like maybe a travel band. Look, here's what we've seen.

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<v Speaker 1>The big problems in this country seemed to be coming

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<v Speaker 1>directly from the White House and not from foreign countries.

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<v Speaker 1>So the tears zipardons that you know, tearing down the

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<v Speaker 1>East Wing all originated in the White House. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the game here is they. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, she said that she will recommend a travel

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<v Speaker 1>ban on several companies which she's claiming are flooding the

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<v Speaker 1>US with criminal activities. I mean, by the way, some

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<v Speaker 1>of these countries are the Trump administration, right. She said

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<v Speaker 1>she met with Donald Trump and decided to suggest a

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<v Speaker 1>full ban on every damn country that's been flooding our

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<v Speaker 1>nation with killers, leeches and entitlement junkies. Who would that be?

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<v Speaker 1>I just am real curious what they're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>On June fourth, they did ban some country.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the problem is they don't have an enemy,

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<v Speaker 1>so they have to make one up, which is so

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<v Speaker 1>very on brand for this administration.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure is so bali.

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<v Speaker 2>The Wall Street Journal has brought up a article that

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<v Speaker 2>says that the Pentagon Signal Gate review finds Pete Heigsith

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<v Speaker 2>violated the Defense Department regularly should say put troops at risk.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so this is when Pete Hegseth put Jeff Goldberg

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<v Speaker 1>in a signal chat by accident. Pete Hegseth didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Mike Walls from National Security who did it

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<v Speaker 1>and then was moved in this administration. So, but the

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<v Speaker 1>Defense Department Inspector General has concluded that dependent on Chief

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<v Speaker 1>heg Seth has the authority to declassify Defense Department information,

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<v Speaker 1>which is fine, but that he violated some department regulations

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<v Speaker 1>when he shared sensitive information from his cell phone on

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<v Speaker 1>signal earlier this year. And this was according to Senator

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Kelly, the Democrat from Arizona. They very clearly state

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<v Speaker 1>that he should not be using his cell phone and

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<v Speaker 1>putting this kind of information on an unclassified system. Really

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<v Speaker 1>you don't say, you know. Eric Schmidt or Republicans said

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<v Speaker 1>it was a nothing burger. When you don't care about

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<v Speaker 1>classified information, it is a nothing burger. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all fine and good until somebody gets hacked. And Schmidt,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a big weekend news anchor defender, said the

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<v Speaker 1>arc of the story is that it's just a never

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<v Speaker 1>ending stream of efforts to undermine Pete hegseyth. Right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's also that Pete Hegseth is stupid and careless.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like the right read. Speaking of stupid and careless,

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<v Speaker 2>we now get to that the Trump officials are in

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<v Speaker 2>panic because this new ADP Private Sector Jobs report shows

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<v Speaker 2>that all their policies are horrible for small businesses. Be

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<v Speaker 2>who barely knows this could have told you that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so private sector jobs report shows that the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>administration is crippling small businesses with its terrible terrors. A

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<v Speaker 1>new report from Payroll Processor found that private employees lost

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two thousand jobs in November. This is a far

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<v Speaker 1>off from the projection that these private employees would gain

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand jobs. Data is a sharp decline from our

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<v Speaker 1>October Large companies are still hiring, wrote Heather Long, chief

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<v Speaker 1>economist at Navy Federal Credit Union. But smaller firms are

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<v Speaker 1>doing layoffs. And this would make sense because you would

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<v Speaker 1>see smaller firms have to eat the price of the

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<v Speaker 1>tariffs and have more trouble doing it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is just so stupid. But the goodness is

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<v Speaker 1>that you have one of the great geniuses of the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration, Howard Lutnick. You'll remember Howard Lutnik from being

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<v Speaker 1>terrible he was on CNBC and he was asked about

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<v Speaker 1>the tariffs, and he said, no, it's not the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, is not the tariffs. Lutnick said, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>democratic shutdown. And you know what happens to small businesses

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<v Speaker 1>when democrats. Yeah, good luck Lutnick, Good lucky Lucknick. Excited

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<v Speaker 1>to see how Costco suing the administration goes. Josh Marshall

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<v Speaker 1>is the editor of Talking Points Memo. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>Fast Politics.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Marshall, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a hard time in celebrity journalism, but it's also

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time in political journalism. Let's talk about political journalism.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we start by talking about the Pentagon, because

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<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon got rid of all it's real journalists and

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<v Speaker 1>has replaced them with such luminaries as Macates, who is

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<v Speaker 1>technically not a journalist. I mean he's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of I mean officially, yeah, officially, he's.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of things. He was almost our attorney general,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a congressman from the Ruby Red district of

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<v Speaker 1>Florida's first and he is a sex predator. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know it, accused sex something.

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<v Speaker 3>Bad, Yes, I guess, I guess he is in that

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<v Speaker 3>category like many many men today of sort of clearly

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<v Speaker 3>did very as predator things. But but you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>like a signed warrant from the government, right, so everybody

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<v Speaker 3>kind of tiptoes around it or something. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>this is it's a it is a not good. It's

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<v Speaker 3>part of Trump world. It's like in the mafia, where

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<v Speaker 3>you need to you need to have done a stint

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<v Speaker 3>in prison and you need to have killed at least

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<v Speaker 3>one person before you can be sort of like a

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<v Speaker 3>a made man in the mafia. And in the maga

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<v Speaker 3>world you need to have some sexual assault or rape

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<v Speaker 3>or something, you know, something like that on your collar

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<v Speaker 3>to to really be you know, Corey Lewandowski Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy, Yeah, I mean I think Gates. Uh no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I I think that's correct. So let's uh, let us

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<v Speaker 1>go and journey into You had Laura Lumer, you had

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<v Speaker 1>Pizza Jack, most famous for spreading Pizzagate. That guy is

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<v Speaker 1>now right Pentagon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what is it? Pussy?

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<v Speaker 1>What is his last nay puss pusso beec Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've never I've never I've always just left it

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<v Speaker 3>unstated since I've never knew how to yeah, how to

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<v Speaker 3>pizza Jack diseaser. I can remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, Laura Lumer. So those guys are in the

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<v Speaker 1>Pentagon press pool, which is they were. That's pretty interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a press conference yesterday at the Pentagon.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all I think so important and relevant because

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<v Speaker 1>the member of Trump's cabinet who strikes me as being

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<v Speaker 1>in the worst state. And remember, it's always a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of it's a gang, it's a murderer's row of people

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<v Speaker 1>who are perhaps.

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<v Speaker 3>Not It's sort of like in a reality show or

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, or Real Housewives or something there there

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<v Speaker 3>is where you know, it's always changing who the baddie is, like, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so sometimes that person she's bad, she's super bad, she's scheming,

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<v Speaker 3>and then she turns out to be good and someone

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<v Speaker 3>else's That's kind of like the Trump cabinet.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm writing that down the Real Housewives because uh it is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's correct. I think the real housewives of the Trump cabinet.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, usually it's bestn't time in the barrel, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to fed and the economy cratering. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of reasons to focus on Scott Essen, but this

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<v Speaker 1>week it's everyone's favorite weekend cable news host whiskey Pete.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always strange what sort of gets through. Obviously they

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<v Speaker 3>are in some version of trouble now for these kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like I don't know what you want to call them,

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<v Speaker 3>sort of like boat snuff film things or assassinations or

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Boat snuff films.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the fact that there was this second attack,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just killing the survivors. And just to be

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<v Speaker 3>clear with everybody, I see it as very bad. But

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<v Speaker 3>the administration does lots of very bad things. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>and and and these attacks have been have been going

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<v Speaker 3>on for since September month, you know, or maybe more

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<v Speaker 3>than a couple months. This recent reporting has sort of

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<v Speaker 3>upped the volume on that. And the other thing that

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<v Speaker 3>is only that it hasn't gotten that much attention yet,

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<v Speaker 3>is that the Signal Gate Inspector General's report. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>signal Gate. That sounds like what was that in the

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<v Speaker 3>BC era? I mean, how you know, kind of it's

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<v Speaker 3>like ancient history. Now, just this.

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<v Speaker 1>Shorthand Mike Wall's actually accidentally put Jeff Goldberg j che

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<v Speaker 1>editor in chief of the Atlantic, And is it not

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<v Speaker 1>some randoh security journalists, but the editor and chief of

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlantic who actually hosts a PBS show in his

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<v Speaker 1>signal chat continue.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know how what does it make? I guess

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<v Speaker 3>it's on text too, but you know how in signal

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<v Speaker 3>like if you haven't identified someone, it'll just put you

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<v Speaker 3>down as your MJ or I'm j M right, you

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<v Speaker 3>know where it just puts it. And I think that

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<v Speaker 3>was the thing where he was just you know, uh JG.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's some other like you know, Jonas George that

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<v Speaker 3>he thought he was putting on who does work crimes

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<v Speaker 3>analysis for them or so in any case, that is

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<v Speaker 3>finally done and they are apparently going to give it

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<v Speaker 3>to Congress. There's going to be a public version of

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<v Speaker 3>it now. I think where you can kind of see

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<v Speaker 3>this coming together is if the boat snuff film things

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<v Speaker 3>gets a little too hot, this Inspector General's report would

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<v Speaker 3>be sort of a convenient way for them to remove

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<v Speaker 3>him from the stage, even if you know, even even

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<v Speaker 3>if that wouldn't really be the reason. So it does

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<v Speaker 3>put him in a kind of I doubt anything is

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen, because I'm sure Trump loves the boat attacks,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just don't you know, we've seen there's there's

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<v Speaker 3>already been a couple times where the White House and

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<v Speaker 3>or Trump wanted to drop Pete Hegzeth. It happened at

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<v Speaker 3>the very beginning when he was when he was nominated, right,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a point at which Joni Ernst was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>was was against him because he had.

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<v Speaker 1>Done work on on sexual assault and the military and

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<v Speaker 1>had found.

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<v Speaker 3>Which in a funny way, so had Pete Heggsath. Just

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<v Speaker 3>to any different sense, yeah, sort of Famously, JD. Vance

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<v Speaker 3>was sort of squiring him around Capitol Hill and he

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<v Speaker 3>like intentionally got into this shouting match with some reporters

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<v Speaker 3>and Trump loved it. And after that, Trump apparently went

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<v Speaker 3>to Susie Wilds or whoever and said, like, I want

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<v Speaker 3>this guy. That was awesome, and that got him the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there was a brief period where after the

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<v Speaker 3>signal Gate thing first happened where he seemed like he

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<v Speaker 3>was in a little trouble, but he did a similar thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So Pete Heggsath knows how to tickle Donald Trump in

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<v Speaker 3>the right way, let's put it that way, to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to bring him on side. So I don't expect any

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't expect him to get canned. But if things

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<v Speaker 3>moved in the wrong direction, that ig report is a Again,

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<v Speaker 3>it's sort of like a trapdoor under him. They could

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<v Speaker 3>choose to yank at any moment and would you know,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of bring everything together.

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<v Speaker 1>It is interesting just this thing you say about Trump

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<v Speaker 1>loving people fighting, because that is absolutely true and it

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<v Speaker 1>is such a great example of how Trump makes everyone worse,

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<v Speaker 1>right like, so the you're incentivized by Trump to be

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<v Speaker 1>worse than you might otherwise.

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<v Speaker 3>Be, which is which is challenging. I think with Pete

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<v Speaker 3>Hegzeth he does know, yeah he does a he does it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a miracle. But yeah, so no, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting. So the question of whether he stays is

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<v Speaker 1>a real one. I agree. I think he ends up

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<v Speaker 1>staying because Trump's whole thing is that he just keeps

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<v Speaker 1>everyone no matter what, and he doesn't care. But you

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<v Speaker 1>could see a world where you could see a world

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<v Speaker 1>where Trump decides it's too much.

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<v Speaker 3>He also remember he he They didn't present it as

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<v Speaker 3>that they sort of exiled him to the UN, but

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<v Speaker 3>they did fire Mike wals over that, I mean, And

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<v Speaker 3>it was interesting how it was sort of a what

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<v Speaker 3>was Connie's husband's name? And the godfather? Am I remembering this?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the guy who gets it at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of Godfather One where they strangle him in the car,

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<v Speaker 3>where that was sort of like the Mike Walls thing

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<v Speaker 3>that you you don't exact the punishment at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>you let it ride. It was the same thing with

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<v Speaker 3>Apple with Fredo, right. These things ride for a long

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<v Speaker 3>time until the convenient moment comes, and then it was

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<v Speaker 3>time for Mike Waltz because he was he wasn't he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't fired at the time he was. It was I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know a month or maybe two months later or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that, and so you know, who knows. But again,

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<v Speaker 3>it does seem like Pete Hegzeth is sort of doing

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<v Speaker 3>all the things that you know, the Trump wants and

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<v Speaker 3>doing it. You know, did the Department of War, he

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<v Speaker 3>could get the reporters, he does the snuff films. Although

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's interesting, Like many people, I have been

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<v Speaker 3>genuinely mystified, like what are we doing with Venezuela? Like

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<v Speaker 3>what And I don't mean that in like a rhetorical sense,

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<v Speaker 3>like what is the plan here? And why are we

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what is happening here? And my understanding is

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<v Speaker 3>is that even though we sort of associate this with

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<v Speaker 3>the Pentagon, that it's really Marco Rubio who is who

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<v Speaker 3>is the driver, the driver of this and that that

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<v Speaker 3>makes sense because of his you know, connection with Cuban

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<v Speaker 3>exile politics, which obviously has a heavy overlap with Venezuela

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<v Speaker 3>and exile politics. And also Marco needs a brand, a

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<v Speaker 3>post Trump brand, other than being thirsty or sweaty or

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<v Speaker 3>looking awkward small, yeah, or looking small, being little little

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<v Speaker 3>Marco or what I think that was it. So I

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<v Speaker 3>assume this is also, you know, because this this with

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<v Speaker 3>certain elements of the right and certainly a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the expatriate Latin American right. This is good stuff. This

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<v Speaker 3>is like, you know, this is like universal health care

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<v Speaker 3>for the DSA crowd. It gets him going.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's do a minute on this special election Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it Tennessee's seventh district. It's an R plus

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two. It ended up being an R plus eight

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<v Speaker 1>point nine. It is you know, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Monday morning quarterbacking on this. The line that I read

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<v Speaker 1>in Politico, so I know it must be true is

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<v Speaker 1>that Republicans will freak out if it's a less than

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<v Speaker 1>double digits. So it's less than double digits.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, this is it's sort of the story.

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<v Speaker 3>We know Trump is super unpopular, the Republicans are super unpopular.

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<v Speaker 3>We have seen you know, direct proxies ie special elections

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<v Speaker 3>that we've seen other things like the elections in November

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<v Speaker 3>that weren't federal elections, but you still get a sense of,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of how each party's doing. They all

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<v Speaker 3>tell a pretty consistent story, which is that you're set

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<v Speaker 3>up for something at least like twenty eighteen, and quite

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<v Speaker 3>possibly bigger than twenty eighteen, and you still have this

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<v Speaker 3>confounding factor that the congressional generic ballot people usually use

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<v Speaker 3>as a proxy for that stuff is does not show

0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.800
<v Speaker 3>the Republicans that far behind, and that has sort of

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 3>thrown people and kind of you know, complicated people's analysis.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a few reasons why that may be

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<v Speaker 3>the case. But if you look at it in these

0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:19.760
<v Speaker 3>special elections, this is an approximation. I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the average over performance of the Democrats in the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen cycle was something like six and now it's ten

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<v Speaker 3>or something. But again this is from memory. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to give you a sense of scale. It

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<v Speaker 3>is substantially substantially more. I don't think there's any question

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<v Speaker 3>they're very freaked out. I think the only reason that

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<v Speaker 3>people in the house, maybe you're slightly less freaked out

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<v Speaker 3>is that they've figured they're losing the house for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you talk about shifts in the very low

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<v Speaker 3>double digits, that starts to be the thing where people

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<v Speaker 3>are not just worried, Oh, we're not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>in the majority anymore, and it's not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>fun like I may actually lose my seat, like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in a you know, in an R plus ten R

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<v Speaker 3>plus fifteen day strict. And you know, if you're an

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<v Speaker 3>R plus fifteen district, you're probably okay, because you can't

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<v Speaker 3>just take I mean, just for everybody to under understand,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't just take a special election and just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>directly apply it.

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<v Speaker 1>Except this there's high high turn special It was the

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<v Speaker 1>same turns.

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<v Speaker 3>The mid YEA, yeah, no, it's so that does but

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<v Speaker 3>still again it is it is different. You can't just

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<v Speaker 3>make it a focus. Yes, you can't make it. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't just say, okay, so it's going to be identical.

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<v Speaker 3>That said, incumbent presidents and their parties generally get less

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<v Speaker 3>popular in the second year, so you've already got another

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<v Speaker 3>another year to go. And when you talk about for

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 3>congressional Republicans, if you say, you know, let's just say,

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 3>for instance, someone is in a a R plus fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>district or even in an R plus twenty district. Someone

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<v Speaker 3>in an R plus twenty district is quite likely to survive.

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<v Speaker 3>But you actually have a race, right and people generally

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<v Speaker 3>speaking in our twenty districts are not used to have

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<v Speaker 3>ever having a race. I expect you will see a

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<v Speaker 3>substantial number of Republican retirements over the next three months

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<v Speaker 3>or so, just because that's what happens when when when

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 3>a party figures it's going to lose, lose the majority.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, in some ways from the outside, it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like it you kind of be more fun to be

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<v Speaker 3>in the minority because you get the yack a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to carry the water for the speaker

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff. But I guarantee you anybody who's ever they

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<v Speaker 3>hate it. They hate it. You get the crappy offices,

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.199
<v Speaker 3>you don't get budgets. They really really hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we know we're seeing right now are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of resignations and or we have resignations like Marjorie

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<v Speaker 1>Tailer Green or retirements where they're not going to resign,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not going to run again. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>don't run again, that means that this seat is more

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<v Speaker 1>expensive to keep usually and.

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<v Speaker 3>Harder to keep. You have you have this is this

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<v Speaker 3>is this always happens when you always have this amplifying

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<v Speaker 3>effect when you when you have a you know, a

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 3>wave or a sub wave election in the offing that

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:09.640
<v Speaker 3>people say all right, I don't have you know, I'm

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 3>not up for this, they retire and then the race

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:16.120
<v Speaker 3>that they probably could have, you know, they probably could

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 3>have held onto their seat maybe sixty seventy percent chance,

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 3>suddenly they lose that seat. So you know, you it

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:25.120
<v Speaker 3>just it's it's it has a self fulfilling effect.

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:27.639
<v Speaker 1>I want to get into redistricting. So Trump had this

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 1>brilliant idea that he was going to redistrict and get

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>more seats, and it works if Trump has the Trump

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:38.199
<v Speaker 1>turnout that he did before. So when you have an

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>around a ten point shift, that means that you are

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 1>seeing a seed that was So say you have a

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 1>safe R plus twenty, you make that R plus nine,

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:49.959
<v Speaker 1>you think you're going to be fine, but in a

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>in a general, in a midterm where everything shifts ten points,

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 1>you're not fine, right, you have to fight to keep

0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 1>that seat.

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 3>It's it's it is as it's the classic issue always

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 3>with with kind of an over gerrymanderin right that you

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:06.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, think of it this way that you take

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 3>the you take the levee right, and you want to

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.479
<v Speaker 3>cover more territory with it, so you carve up the

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 3>top few feet of the levee and you move it over.

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 3>If you have a really big storm, the levee is

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 3>going to fail. And that's it's. It's it's just basic math. Now,

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 3>I I have I have been told to people who

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 3>really know districts well that the Texas jerry mander apparently

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:32.400
<v Speaker 3>is pretty smartly done. It kind of yeah, that it's

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 3>there's kind of no way it can be overwhelmed. And

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 3>again these are people who really know districts.

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I have also been told that very

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>thing by other Texas district ee people.

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but some of these other states where you're in,

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 3>they're eking out like they're think they're eking out one

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:52.920
<v Speaker 3>extra seat. But you know, overall, it looks like the

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 3>effect of all of this is likely to turn out

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 3>to be a wash in terms of because Democrats are

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:03.120
<v Speaker 3>them elves being so are being so aggressive. So it's

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's a.

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Newsome and by the way, you know, again Newsome politically

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 1>not totally my vibe, but he did really save Democrats here.

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well he he, and I can't remember what I

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 3>think they're gonna They think they get five seats, you know,

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 3>kind of equal equal to Texas. But in some ways

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 3>an even more important part of it was that he

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 3>gave sanction to every other blue state to do the

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:34.199
<v Speaker 3>same thing. And that is something it's it's always been

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 3>very uncharacteristic for Democrats to act in this way, but

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:39.959
<v Speaker 3>he sort of set a different standard, and so you

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 3>have people like the governor of Maryland saying, hey, we're

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 3>doing it too, which you know, yeah, so it And

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 3>the thing is is that I said before that it

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 3>seems like it's likely to be a wash. You know,

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 3>let's say if it ends up being you know, two

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 3>or three seats in either direction, you have a big

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.479
<v Speaker 3>you have a big election, and you're probably talking about

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 3>twenty or thirty seats moving. So yeah, two or three

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 3>seats is not gonna is. I mean, put it this way,

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 3>if the election comes down to Republicans were saved by

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 3>adding three seats, it'll that will mean it was a

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 3>disaster of an election for Democrats, quite apart from any jerrymanderin.

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again we don't know what Trump's going to

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>try to do just put sand in the gears, but

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:28.719
<v Speaker 1>it sure feels like he is going to would have

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>to do a lot. Josh Marshall, will you please come back.

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, of course, whenever you call me.

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Congressman Robert Garcia represents California's forty second district and is

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>the head of the Oversight Committee. Welcome to Bass Politics.

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Congressman Garcia, how are you ranking member of Oversight? So

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>tell us what do you have?

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 5>I mean, we continue, obviously to get a ton of documents, pictures,

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 5>photos from all sorts of sources, and right now we

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 5>are going through an enormous amount of documents, about five

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 5>thousand pages of photos and videos from it, such as

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 5>Jeffrey Epstein's Island that were given to us by the

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 5>US Virgin Islands. Those photos and videos are quite disturbing

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 5>and pretty creepy, to be honest, just to never kind

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 5>of before seen look at what some of the rooms

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 5>look like, and video of the estate itself on the island.

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 4>And then more importantly, we also have received.

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 5>Pretty significant amount of financial documents from both JP Morgan

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 5>as well as Dortchy Bank, and these are two of

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 5>the institutions that are really critical in the investigation to

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 5>understand how the money was transferred within Epstein's sexual trafficking

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 5>ring and who was paying who, where Jeffrey Epsten was

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 5>getting his money from, and there's a lot there. What's

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 5>important is while we have this information from these two banks,

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 5>they've just given us a first of batch and that's

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 5>where our focus is right now, which is really on

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 5>all the financial documents.

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Are these videos that the Virgin Islands took of the

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>house or are they videos that they seized?

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 4>These are video that they.

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 5>Took and so there are many more videos and photos

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 5>than the ones we released today. We'll be releasing all

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 5>of those in the days ahead. We have to be

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 5>very careful. Even with the pictures that we put out today.

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 5>We had to make some reactions in the photos. There

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 5>were photos, for example, of Jeffrey Epstein's phone and some

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:20.959
<v Speaker 5>of the numbers that he had pre programmed.

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 4>So we had to redact some of those names.

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 5>There were names of possible victims on this large chalkboard

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 5>that he had in one of his living rooms, so

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 5>we had to redact some names from there.

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 4>And so there is a process going on. But we

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 4>will release all the photos.

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 5>In the videos in the days ahead of the Virgin

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 5>Islands documents.

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Now there are more videos that are Jeffrey Ebstein's videos,

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>but you don't have those yet.

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 4>That's right.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, look, the vast majority of the evidence for

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 5>this investigation, and vast majority of the Epstein files are

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 5>at the.

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 4>Department of Justice.

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 5>The Department of Justice, as we understand, has an enormous

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 5>amount of videos and photogs that are actually of Jeffrey

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 5>that were in his possession and that investigators put together

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 5>at the FBI. We understand that many of those videos,

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 5>of course, contain images of parties that he had and

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 5>of women and girls, and in some cases, of course,

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 5>some of these goals, as we know, were minors. We

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 5>are demanding that all of the files, whether it's the videos,

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 5>the photographs, all get turned over to our committee, which

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 5>has a subpoena on the full EPs files, and Congress

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 5>has also passed as we know just recently an actual

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 5>law that requires the president to get all these files

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 5>out the door, but they continue to cover up the

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 5>Epstein files and they have to understand it. We will

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 5>continue to hammer away and if anyone that's out there

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 5>to get and put together all of these different documents

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 5>that the DOJ should be giving us directly.

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the financial documents. So you have these

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>documents from Deutsche Bank and from JP Morgan in the documents.

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Have you looked at them and are are their names?

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>You know? Are their numbers for account? How hard is

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it to figure out where the money is coming from

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 1>or going to?

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:08.959
<v Speaker 5>It is going to take us a couple of weeks

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 5>to actually these documents are actually pretty complicated financial documents.

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 5>Some of them are transfers, some are from organizations and

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 5>names that we need to deciphered exactly what is being

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 5>said in some of these documents. Others are just financial

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 5>ledgers like you've seen the you know, checking account or

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 5>someone's basic checking our savings account.

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 4>It is pretty significant.

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 5>The amount of money that moved in and out of

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 5>Jeff Westein's essential criminal empire that he had, and what

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 5>we heard from the survivors directly. Multiple times I've heard

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 5>from this from them one on one meetings and round

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 5>tables we've had, is they have said to follow the money,

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 5>that continue to follow the money. There was an enormous

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 5>amount of money that was paid for these horrible things

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 5>that were done to these children and these women, and

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 5>these financial records should.

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 4>Help us unlock a lot of that information.

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>So they have thirty days because this discharge petition set

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>the clock going on thirty days to release this stuff.

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>We know that the Justice Department has it. Do you

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>think they're making We know they paid a million dollars

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>in overtime to FBI agents to redact, So that would

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>make me think that the information is ready. Is that right?

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 4>We think that the information is ready to be released.

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:26.719
<v Speaker 5>We know that when Trump first got into office, there

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 5>was a review done by the DOJ. I mean Pembondy

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 5>talked about that has been reported in the media that

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 5>Pembondi went to Donald Trump and said, hey, you are

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 5>in these files. Pambondi claimed that they were on her desk.

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 5>They made a decision early on to not release anything

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 5>or essentially give up these kind of maga social influencers

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 5>kind of limited amount of documents.

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 4>We remember it was kind of a joke.

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 5>Since then, they have been determined to not release anything

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 5>else and to downplay the actual files. And now we

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 5>know that they have a significant amount of document in

0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 5>their possession and there have to be compelled to release them.

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 5>And what we're concerned about now is that somehow this

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.720
<v Speaker 5>sham new investigation that Trump has demanded through the Southern

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 5>District of New York around you know, Democrats or others

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 5>that he believe are involved in the files, is going

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 5>to somehow be used as an excuse by Pambondy to

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.919
<v Speaker 5>not release the documents of the Congress. And what I've

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 5>reminded the DJ and we've done this directly, is that

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 5>the subpoena that we put in place a few weeks

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:31.959
<v Speaker 5>ago doesn't have any language about ongoing investigations. So they

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 5>have to provide all the documents to us, whether they

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 5>want to or not, and we'll see if they comply.

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 1>There's some talk that Pambondy would testify about this. Could

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>that happen, Will that happen.

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 4>It's something that we definitely want to do.

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 5>We want to have a conversation with her, and we

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 5>have a lot of questions not just about the Epstein files,

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 5>but about Glen Maxwell. And you know, when are we

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 5>going to find out how the hell who made the

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:04.439
<v Speaker 5>decision to transfer her to that lower security prison. She's

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 5>been now transferred to this prison. She's getting all these

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 5>secret meetings, she's meeting with Todd blanch to the DOJ,

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:13.800
<v Speaker 5>and no one is giving the Congress any information about

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 5>how this all happened, Who directed the transfer, why was

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 5>it done, what was Glene Maxwell promised? Did Pambondi authorize

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:27.800
<v Speaker 5>this transfer? These are basic questions that any normal administration

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 5>or responsible administration would answer.

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 4>To the public and to the Congress.

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 5>And so it's all part of this broader cover up

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 5>that is clearly, in our opinion, being directed by Donald Trump.

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>It feels like the Oversight Committee is I mean, I

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>know that there's controversy, but it feels like the House

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>is weirdly united on the ebscene stuff and that it's

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>not as partisan as everything else. Is that true or

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>is that just vibes? And also can you use that

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>in any way right? Because we're seeing members get more

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 1>involved in discharge petitions, We're seeing a lot of pushback

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 1>on Speaker Johnson. He clearly does not have control of

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>the caucus. I mean, is there opportunity there for Democrats?

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 4>There is?

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 5>I mean, look, I think clearly Republicans have been on

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 5>board in some of our efforts on the closure, but

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 5>they've also had to be almost forced or pushed into

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 5>it and have a lot of Republicans signed the Dishart petition.

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't until we forced the vote that you saw

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:26.839
<v Speaker 5>the wave on the Oversight Committee.

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 4>We haven't had a lot of Republicans supportive.

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 5>It's been a couple but once we've forced votes on subpoenas,

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 5>or once we've pressured the majority into getting bank documents,

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 5>or once we've publicly called on actions to be taken

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 5>and have essentially shown the majority that we do have

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 5>some Republicans with us, that's when there has been action.

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it hasn't the Republicans have clined, oh, we've

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.959
<v Speaker 5>released X amount of documents. They've only released documents after

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<v Speaker 5>Democrats have essentially forced their hand or released a few moments,

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<v Speaker 5>then they released the rest. And so they have been

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<v Speaker 5>I think kind of dragged along. There have been a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of them that have been principled from I think

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<v Speaker 5>the start, but a vast majority have, I think reluctantly

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<v Speaker 5>come forward and we encourage that support that we want

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<v Speaker 5>more folks to do the right thing. And as the

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<v Speaker 5>President continues to get weaker and his power seems to

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<v Speaker 5>be diminishing within his own party and base, I think

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to continue to see more Republicans stand up

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<v Speaker 5>and do the right thing. And in many ways, the

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<v Speaker 5>Epstein files and this investigation, I believe, is what's going

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<v Speaker 5>to break. That's really a bond that somehow Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 5>has created over years with his magabase.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we going to see the Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we will. I hope that we're able to

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<v Speaker 4>sooner than later.

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<v Speaker 5>Certainly, when we get into the majority, the power that

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to have of subpoena and getting documents will

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<v Speaker 5>be dramatically different than what we have now in our ability.

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<v Speaker 5>But absolutely, I mean, these women, these survivors, they deserve justice,

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<v Speaker 5>they deserve the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you, Congressman Garcia.

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<v Speaker 3>They're no more perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Cannon my jug fast.

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<v Speaker 2>So you may remember some of the members of the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Young Republican Club is having their tech leaked

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<v Speaker 2>and well, let's be real here, sounding like a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of Nazis, bigots and racists and saying things that, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're obvious to people like us, but shocked a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people. Well, I'm going to shock you here. They've

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<v Speaker 2>invited this German leader who had an I Love Hitler

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<v Speaker 2>chat who amongst us?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who could have seen these young people, they're basically

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<v Speaker 1>children in their thirties and forties, who had a group

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<v Speaker 1>chat where they mused about all the anti Semitism. In

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<v Speaker 1>case you are Jewish and you think these people are

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<v Speaker 1>not hugely anti Semitic, they in fact are.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>New York Republicans GALA will recognize this guy. He's from

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<v Speaker 1>a political parties called the Alternative for Germany. They are

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<v Speaker 1>far right. I know you'll be shocked to hear this statement.

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<v Speaker 1>To Letico, The group defended inviting the German politician, saying

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<v Speaker 1>the AfD is a model for fighting the far left.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Antifa. Remind me who fought Antifa? What's the

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<v Speaker 1>faugh for?

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<v Speaker 2>I just never remember this part. The thing I think about,

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<v Speaker 2>though with this that really does make me quite angry

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<v Speaker 2>is while groups like the ADL set up tip lines

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<v Speaker 2>about Zoron, this is happening in New York City, right,

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<v Speaker 2>in their fucking backyard. One of my other favorite things

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<v Speaker 2>is this club has removed their address from Oddline so

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<v Speaker 2>that they don't get protested anymore.

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