1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: today's best minds. And the FBI has paid over one 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: million dollars in overtime to redact the Epstein files. I 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: wonder what they're redacting. We have such a great show 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: for you today, talking Points Memos own Josh Marshall stops 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: by to talk Trump's insane adventures to bring America into war. 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: Then we'll talk to Oversight Committee Chairman Congressman Robert Garcia 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: about the latest tranch of Epstein files. But first we 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: have the stories the media is missing. 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: So BALI people are perplexed today. There's this Democratic representative, Henriquoilar, 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: who has been a controversial figure the backbench world of 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: democratic politics because he's one of the debsoli pro wife congressmen. 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: A lot of people are very bad at Democratic leadership 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: for running him in the first place. And then he 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: got accused with his wife of some little corrupt mistealings. 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: And now mister Trump has pardoned him. 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: Yes, mister Trump has pardoned him because crimes. What are crimes? 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: Trump is like on a pardoning spree here, pardoning everyone 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: who does crimes. I mean, maybe not everyone, but almost everyone. 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: These were several former democratic he granted clemency. So again, 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: there's been other Democratic elected officials. Which he posted on 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: truth quote unquote social that the Biden administration had weaponized 24 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: the justice system to prosecute Quohlar because he bravely spoke 25 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: out against the Biden border catastrophe. That is not true. 26 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: You can not like Quahlar, you cannot like Biden. You 27 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: can be upset about the border. But none of these 28 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: things are connected to each other. Because of these facts 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: and others, the others being that he loves to pardon people. 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm hereby announcing my full an unconditional pardon of beloved 31 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: Texas Congressman. I'm not sure he's beloved. The President added 32 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: he will also pardon his wife, the applely named Amelda, 33 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: as well. She was under indictment on the same charges 34 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: as her husband, just like another Amelda. 35 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: I got a picture of a shoe closet of my head. 36 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: All right, immediately, parents, don't name your child Amelda unless 37 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: you are ready for. 38 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: What less you what people our age here? That was 39 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: one of the first news stories you saw. Birded your brain. 40 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: We both are obsessed but you know, let me just 41 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: add Melda Marcos's son went on to be the President 42 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: of the Philippines. 43 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: True, we should say the accusations were taking six hundred 44 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: thousand dollars of bribes. And one of the things I 45 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: really find gross about this is a Democratic Minority leader, 46 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: Hakim Jeffries, said that the charges were really thin anyway, 47 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: And it really is just you got to wonder what 48 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: the leadership was doing supporting this guy in the first place, 49 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: and then what the hell they're even doing right now 50 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: with statements like that. 51 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: Well, we know what they're doing, which is because Representative 52 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Quailar is now running for Congress as a Democrat, So 53 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: we know the deal that Hikeem is making. It's not 54 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: a deal that we might make, but we know what's 55 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: happening here. 56 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 57 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: The question now is is do we have an Eric 58 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: Adams and the House of Representatives that is under Trump's control. 59 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: You wish you had an Eric Adams in the House 60 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: of Representatives. 61 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: I don't want any other Eric Adams. 62 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: Is you want to turn your haters into waiters at 63 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: the table of success. 64 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: I wake up at the boarding. I repeat that as 65 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: a meditation about trow to make sure I go it 66 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: to each day like that. 67 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: You know, every episode of this podcast, I am contractually 68 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: mandated to say, turn your haters into waiters at the 69 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: table of success. 70 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: Yes, well, yes, we can't fix people are contractually mandated 71 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 2: to do. At least, Defodoc is mad dated to try 72 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: to call attention to herself because she believes it's very 73 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: weird these upstate people who believe that they are destined 74 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 2: for bigger things. Her Andrew Clobo that everybody else looks 75 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: at them and they're like, what are you talking about? 76 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: Your like a backbench personality at best. She is putting 77 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: a lot of signals out that she's coming for leadership 78 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: to replace Mike Johnson. 79 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: That is not what I think is happening here. 80 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: Tell me what you think is happening, because that seems 81 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: to be the conventional wisdom on Twitter right now. 82 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: So what I think is happening here is that at 83 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: least Devonic is running for governor of New York State. 84 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: Democrats are probably going to win governor of New York State, 85 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: even with Kathy Hokeel, who is like not the most popular. 86 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: It's still hard for me to imagine with the ships 87 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: we're seeing in the electorate that elis devonic can get 88 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: a win here. But in order for her to even try, 89 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: she needs to fight with Republican leadership. She needs to 90 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: look like she's an independent. And so I think what's 91 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: happening here is it's very easy to fight with Mike 92 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: Johnson and it will give her some you know, if 93 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: she starts fighting with Trump, that's going to be that's 94 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: like picking a fight with a velociraptor, whereas picking a 95 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: fight with good old Mike Johnson. I think this is 96 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: theatrics honestly interesting. First of all, Mike Johnson was installed 97 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: by Donald Trump, so in order for her to get 98 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: him out, she would have to go to Donald Trump. 99 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: And maybe Donald Trump decides he doesn't need Mike Johnson anymore. 100 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: But so far Mike Johnson has been a loyal servant. 101 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think by one thing is never underestimate the 102 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: delusional aspirations of a personality with loser like her. 103 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: But she's running for governor. 104 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: She's tried to elevate her profile into whatever she could 105 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: get it right. 106 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: But fighting with him elevates her profile. I just don't 107 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I think, Okay, I think 108 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: this is like one of these plays where she can 109 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: go back and be like, look, I'm so independent. 110 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: Well, Molly, I welcome you to put up a better'd 111 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: be again one of those sites that I will bet 112 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: session one of those sites I will never use. 113 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: Yes, let's bet on politics, because that is a very 114 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: good thing for people will write about politics to do. 115 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: Just kidding, we're definitely not doing that. Also, I don't bet. 116 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't either. Okay, we have to talk 117 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: about people who delusionally believed in themselves, but we always 118 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: saw they had the juice when we saw how much 119 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: their yosification of their look worked, which is Christino. She 120 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: says that we need more travel bands. 121 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem, is the travel band. 122 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: Look. 123 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: So we had a CIA, a guy from Afghanistan who 124 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: worked for the CIA, and he killed a member of 125 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: the National Guard. And from this, Republicans they wanted a villain, right, 126 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: they wanted to be able to lock down the immigration 127 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: from Afghanistan. But here's the problem. This guy was working 128 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: for the CIA. So in order to try to make 129 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: it make sense, they don't give a fuck. So they're 130 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: just like maybe a travel band. Look, here's what we've seen. 131 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: The big problems in this country seemed to be coming 132 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: directly from the White House and not from foreign countries. 133 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: So the tears zipardons that you know, tearing down the 134 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: East Wing all originated in the White House. You know, 135 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what the game here is they. By 136 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: the way, she said that she will recommend a travel 137 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: ban on several companies which she's claiming are flooding the 138 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: US with criminal activities. I mean, by the way, some 139 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: of these countries are the Trump administration, right. She said 140 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: she met with Donald Trump and decided to suggest a 141 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: full ban on every damn country that's been flooding our 142 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: nation with killers, leeches and entitlement junkies. Who would that be? 143 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: I just am real curious what they're going to do. 144 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: On June fourth, they did ban some country. 145 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: You know. 146 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the problem is they don't have an enemy, 147 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: so they have to make one up, which is so 148 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: very on brand for this administration. 149 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: Sure is so bali. 150 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal has brought up a article that 151 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: says that the Pentagon Signal Gate review finds Pete Heigsith 152 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: violated the Defense Department regularly should say put troops at risk. 153 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is when Pete Hegseth put Jeff Goldberg 154 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: in a signal chat by accident. Pete Hegseth didn't do it. 155 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: It was Mike Walls from National Security who did it 156 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: and then was moved in this administration. So, but the 157 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: Defense Department Inspector General has concluded that dependent on Chief 158 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: heg Seth has the authority to declassify Defense Department information, 159 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: which is fine, but that he violated some department regulations 160 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: when he shared sensitive information from his cell phone on 161 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: signal earlier this year. And this was according to Senator 162 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: Mark Kelly, the Democrat from Arizona. They very clearly state 163 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: that he should not be using his cell phone and 164 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: putting this kind of information on an unclassified system. Really 165 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: you don't say, you know. Eric Schmidt or Republicans said 166 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: it was a nothing burger. When you don't care about 167 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: classified information, it is a nothing burger. You know, it's 168 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: all fine and good until somebody gets hacked. And Schmidt, 169 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: who is a big weekend news anchor defender, said the 170 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: arc of the story is that it's just a never 171 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: ending stream of efforts to undermine Pete hegseyth. Right, I mean, 172 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: it's also that Pete Hegseth is stupid and careless. 173 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: That sounds like the right read. Speaking of stupid and careless, 174 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: we now get to that the Trump officials are in 175 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: panic because this new ADP Private Sector Jobs report shows 176 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: that all their policies are horrible for small businesses. Be 177 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: who barely knows this could have told you that. 178 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so private sector jobs report shows that the Trump 179 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: administration is crippling small businesses with its terrible terrors. A 180 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: new report from Payroll Processor found that private employees lost 181 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: thirty two thousand jobs in November. This is a far 182 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: off from the projection that these private employees would gain 183 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: ten thousand jobs. Data is a sharp decline from our 184 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: October Large companies are still hiring, wrote Heather Long, chief 185 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: economist at Navy Federal Credit Union. But smaller firms are 186 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: doing layoffs. And this would make sense because you would 187 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: see smaller firms have to eat the price of the 188 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: tariffs and have more trouble doing it. And you know, 189 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: like this is just so stupid. But the goodness is 190 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: that you have one of the great geniuses of the 191 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: Trump administration, Howard Lutnick. You'll remember Howard Lutnik from being 192 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: terrible he was on CNBC and he was asked about 193 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: the tariffs, and he said, no, it's not the tariffs. 194 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: Of course, is not the tariffs. Lutnick said, it's the 195 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: democratic shutdown. And you know what happens to small businesses 196 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: when democrats. Yeah, good luck Lutnick, Good lucky Lucknick. Excited 197 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: to see how Costco suing the administration goes. Josh Marshall 198 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: is the editor of Talking Points Memo. Welcome back to 199 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: Fast Politics. 200 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 3: Josh Marshall, thanks for having me. 201 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: It's a hard time in celebrity journalism, but it's also 202 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: a hard time in political journalism. Let's talk about political journalism. 203 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: I think we start by talking about the Pentagon, because 204 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: the Pentagon got rid of all it's real journalists and 205 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: has replaced them with such luminaries as Macates, who is 206 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: technically not a journalist. I mean he's a. 207 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: Lot of I mean officially, yeah, officially, he's. 208 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: A lot of things. He was almost our attorney general, 209 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: he was a congressman from the Ruby Red district of 210 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: Florida's first and he is a sex predator. I don't 211 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: know it, accused sex something. 212 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: Bad, Yes, I guess, I guess he is in that 213 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 3: category like many many men today of sort of clearly 214 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: did very as predator things. But but you don't have 215 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 3: like a signed warrant from the government, right, so everybody 216 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 3: kind of tiptoes around it or something. I mean, you know, 217 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: this is it's a it is a not good. It's 218 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: part of Trump world. It's like in the mafia, where 219 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: you need to you need to have done a stint 220 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: in prison and you need to have killed at least 221 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 3: one person before you can be sort of like a 222 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: a made man in the mafia. And in the maga 223 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: world you need to have some sexual assault or rape 224 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: or something, you know, something like that on your collar 225 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: to to really be you know, Corey Lewandowski Trump. 226 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: That guy, Yeah, I mean I think Gates. Uh no, no, 227 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: I I think that's correct. So let's uh, let us 228 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: go and journey into You had Laura Lumer, you had 229 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: Pizza Jack, most famous for spreading Pizzagate. That guy is 230 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: now right Pentagon. 231 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it? Pussy? 232 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: What is his last nay puss pusso beec Oh. 233 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never I've never I've always just left it 234 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: unstated since I've never knew how to yeah, how to 235 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: pizza Jack diseaser. I can remember that. 236 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Laura Lumer. So those guys are in the 237 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: Pentagon press pool, which is they were. That's pretty interesting, 238 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: and there was a press conference yesterday at the Pentagon. 239 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: This is all I think so important and relevant because 240 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: the member of Trump's cabinet who strikes me as being 241 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: in the worst state. And remember, it's always a sort 242 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: of it's a gang, it's a murderer's row of people 243 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: who are perhaps. 244 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: Not It's sort of like in a reality show or 245 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: like you know, or Real Housewives or something there there 246 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 3: is where you know, it's always changing who the baddie is, like, right, 247 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: so sometimes that person she's bad, she's super bad, she's scheming, 248 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: and then she turns out to be good and someone 249 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: else's That's kind of like the Trump cabinet. 250 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: I'm writing that down the Real Housewives because uh it is, 251 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: it's correct. I think the real housewives of the Trump cabinet. 252 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: So anyway, usually it's bestn't time in the barrel, especially 253 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to fed and the economy cratering. A 254 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: lot of reasons to focus on Scott Essen, but this 255 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: week it's everyone's favorite weekend cable news host whiskey Pete. 256 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: It's always strange what sort of gets through. Obviously they 257 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: are in some version of trouble now for these kind 258 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: of like I don't know what you want to call them, 259 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: sort of like boat snuff film things or assassinations or 260 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: you know. 261 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: Boat snuff films. 262 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the fact that there was this second attack, 263 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: you know, just killing the survivors. And just to be 264 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: clear with everybody, I see it as very bad. But 265 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: the administration does lots of very bad things. And it's 266 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: and and and these attacks have been have been going 267 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: on for since September month, you know, or maybe more 268 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: than a couple months. This recent reporting has sort of 269 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: upped the volume on that. And the other thing that 270 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: is only that it hasn't gotten that much attention yet, 271 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: is that the Signal Gate Inspector General's report. I remember 272 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: signal Gate. That sounds like what was that in the 273 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: BC era? I mean, how you know, kind of it's 274 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: like ancient history. Now, just this. 275 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: Shorthand Mike Wall's actually accidentally put Jeff Goldberg j che 276 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: editor in chief of the Atlantic, And is it not 277 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: some randoh security journalists, but the editor and chief of 278 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: the Atlantic who actually hosts a PBS show in his 279 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: signal chat continue. 280 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: Well, you know how what does it make? I guess 281 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: it's on text too, but you know how in signal 282 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: like if you haven't identified someone, it'll just put you 283 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: down as your MJ or I'm j M right, you 284 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: know where it just puts it. And I think that 285 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: was the thing where he was just you know, uh JG. 286 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: And there's some other like you know, Jonas George that 287 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: he thought he was putting on who does work crimes 288 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: analysis for them or so in any case, that is 289 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: finally done and they are apparently going to give it 290 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: to Congress. There's going to be a public version of 291 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: it now. I think where you can kind of see 292 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: this coming together is if the boat snuff film things 293 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: gets a little too hot, this Inspector General's report would 294 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: be sort of a convenient way for them to remove 295 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: him from the stage, even if you know, even even 296 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: if that wouldn't really be the reason. So it does 297 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: put him in a kind of I doubt anything is 298 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: going to happen, because I'm sure Trump loves the boat attacks, 299 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: and I just don't you know, we've seen there's there's 300 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: already been a couple times where the White House and 301 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: or Trump wanted to drop Pete Hegzeth. It happened at 302 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: the very beginning when he was when he was nominated, right, 303 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: there was a point at which Joni Ernst was, you know, 304 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: was was against him because he had. 305 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: Done work on on sexual assault and the military and 306 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: had found. 307 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: Which in a funny way, so had Pete Heggsath. Just 308 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: to any different sense, yeah, sort of Famously, JD. Vance 309 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: was sort of squiring him around Capitol Hill and he 310 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: like intentionally got into this shouting match with some reporters 311 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: and Trump loved it. And after that, Trump apparently went 312 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: to Susie Wilds or whoever and said, like, I want 313 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: this guy. That was awesome, and that got him the thing. 314 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 3: And then there was a brief period where after the 315 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: signal Gate thing first happened where he seemed like he 316 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: was in a little trouble, but he did a similar thing. 317 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: So Pete Heggsath knows how to tickle Donald Trump in 318 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 3: the right way, let's put it that way, to you know, 319 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 3: to bring him on side. So I don't expect any 320 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: I didn't expect him to get canned. But if things 321 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 3: moved in the wrong direction, that ig report is a Again, 322 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: it's sort of like a trapdoor under him. They could 323 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 3: choose to yank at any moment and would you know, 324 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: kind of bring everything together. 325 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: It is interesting just this thing you say about Trump 326 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: loving people fighting, because that is absolutely true and it 327 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: is such a great example of how Trump makes everyone worse, 328 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: right like, so the you're incentivized by Trump to be 329 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: worse than you might otherwise. 330 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 3: Be, which is which is challenging. I think with Pete 331 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: Hegzeth he does know, yeah he does a he does it. 332 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: It's a miracle. But yeah, so no, I think that's 333 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: very interesting. So the question of whether he stays is 334 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: a real one. I agree. I think he ends up 335 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: staying because Trump's whole thing is that he just keeps 336 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: everyone no matter what, and he doesn't care. But you 337 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: could see a world where you could see a world 338 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: where Trump decides it's too much. 339 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: He also remember he he They didn't present it as 340 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: that they sort of exiled him to the UN, but 341 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 3: they did fire Mike wals over that, I mean, And 342 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: it was interesting how it was sort of a what 343 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: was Connie's husband's name? And the godfather? Am I remembering this? 344 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 3: You know, the guy who gets it at the end 345 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 3: of Godfather One where they strangle him in the car, 346 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 3: where that was sort of like the Mike Walls thing 347 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 3: that you you don't exact the punishment at the time, 348 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: you let it ride. It was the same thing with 349 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 3: Apple with Fredo, right. These things ride for a long 350 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: time until the convenient moment comes, and then it was 351 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: time for Mike Waltz because he was he wasn't he 352 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: wasn't fired at the time he was. It was I 353 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: didn't know a month or maybe two months later or 354 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: something like that, and so you know, who knows. But again, 355 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: it does seem like Pete Hegzeth is sort of doing 356 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: all the things that you know, the Trump wants and 357 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: doing it. You know, did the Department of War, he 358 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: could get the reporters, he does the snuff films. Although 359 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: you know, it's interesting, Like many people, I have been 360 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 3: genuinely mystified, like what are we doing with Venezuela? Like 361 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: what And I don't mean that in like a rhetorical sense, 362 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: like what is the plan here? And why are we 363 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 3: you know, what is happening here? And my understanding is 364 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: is that even though we sort of associate this with 365 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 3: the Pentagon, that it's really Marco Rubio who is who 366 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 3: is the driver, the driver of this and that that 367 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: makes sense because of his you know, connection with Cuban 368 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: exile politics, which obviously has a heavy overlap with Venezuela 369 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 3: and exile politics. And also Marco needs a brand, a 370 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 3: post Trump brand, other than being thirsty or sweaty or 371 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: looking awkward small, yeah, or looking small, being little little 372 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: Marco or what I think that was it. So I 373 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 3: assume this is also, you know, because this this with 374 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: certain elements of the right and certainly a lot of 375 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 3: the expatriate Latin American right. This is good stuff. This 376 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: is like, you know, this is like universal health care 377 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 3: for the DSA crowd. It gets him going. 378 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: So let's do a minute on this special election Democrats. 379 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: It was it Tennessee's seventh district. It's an R plus 380 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: twenty two. It ended up being an R plus eight 381 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: point nine. It is you know, there's a lot of 382 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: Monday morning quarterbacking on this. The line that I read 383 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: in Politico, so I know it must be true is 384 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: that Republicans will freak out if it's a less than 385 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: double digits. So it's less than double digits. 386 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is it's sort of the story. 387 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 3: We know Trump is super unpopular, the Republicans are super unpopular. 388 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 3: We have seen you know, direct proxies ie special elections 389 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: that we've seen other things like the elections in November 390 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: that weren't federal elections, but you still get a sense of, 391 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 3: you know, kind of how each party's doing. They all 392 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 3: tell a pretty consistent story, which is that you're set 393 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: up for something at least like twenty eighteen, and quite 394 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 3: possibly bigger than twenty eighteen, and you still have this 395 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: confounding factor that the congressional generic ballot people usually use 396 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: as a proxy for that stuff is does not show 397 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: the Republicans that far behind, and that has sort of 398 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: thrown people and kind of you know, complicated people's analysis. 399 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: I think there's a few reasons why that may be 400 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: the case. But if you look at it in these 401 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 3: special elections, this is an approximation. I think that you know, 402 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 3: the average over performance of the Democrats in the twenty 403 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: eighteen cycle was something like six and now it's ten 404 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 3: or something. But again this is from memory. I'm just 405 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: just trying to give you a sense of scale. It 406 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: is substantially substantially more. I don't think there's any question 407 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: they're very freaked out. I think the only reason that 408 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: people in the house, maybe you're slightly less freaked out 409 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: is that they've figured they're losing the house for a while. 410 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 3: But if you talk about shifts in the very low 411 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 3: double digits, that starts to be the thing where people 412 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: are not just worried, Oh, we're not going to be 413 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: in the majority anymore, and it's not going to be 414 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 3: fun like I may actually lose my seat, like I'm 415 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 3: in a you know, in an R plus ten R 416 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 3: plus fifteen day strict. And you know, if you're an 417 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: R plus fifteen district, you're probably okay, because you can't 418 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: just take I mean, just for everybody to under understand, 419 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 3: you can't just take a special election and just you know, 420 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: directly apply it. 421 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: Except this there's high high turn special It was the 422 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: same turns. 423 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: The mid YEA, yeah, no, it's so that does but 424 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 3: still again it is it is different. You can't just 425 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: make it a focus. Yes, you can't make it. You 426 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: can't just say, okay, so it's going to be identical. 427 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 3: That said, incumbent presidents and their parties generally get less 428 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: popular in the second year, so you've already got another 429 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: another year to go. And when you talk about for 430 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: congressional Republicans, if you say, you know, let's just say, 431 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: for instance, someone is in a a R plus fifteen 432 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 3: district or even in an R plus twenty district. Someone 433 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 3: in an R plus twenty district is quite likely to survive. 434 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: But you actually have a race, right and people generally 435 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: speaking in our twenty districts are not used to have 436 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 3: ever having a race. I expect you will see a 437 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 3: substantial number of Republican retirements over the next three months 438 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 3: or so, just because that's what happens when when when 439 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: a party figures it's going to lose, lose the majority. 440 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: I mean, in some ways from the outside, it looks 441 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 3: like it you kind of be more fun to be 442 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: in the minority because you get the yack a lot. 443 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: You don't have to carry the water for the speaker 444 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 3: and stuff. But I guarantee you anybody who's ever they 445 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 3: hate it. They hate it. You get the crappy offices, 446 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 3: you don't get budgets. They really really hate it. 447 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: So what we know we're seeing right now are a 448 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: lot of resignations and or we have resignations like Marjorie 449 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: Tailer Green or retirements where they're not going to resign, 450 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: but they're not going to run again. And when you 451 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: don't run again, that means that this seat is more 452 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: expensive to keep usually and. 453 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 3: Harder to keep. You have you have this is this 454 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 3: is this always happens when you always have this amplifying 455 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 3: effect when you when you have a you know, a 456 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: wave or a sub wave election in the offing that 457 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 3: people say all right, I don't have you know, I'm 458 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 3: not up for this, they retire and then the race 459 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 3: that they probably could have, you know, they probably could 460 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: have held onto their seat maybe sixty seventy percent chance, 461 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: suddenly they lose that seat. So you know, you it 462 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 3: just it's it's it has a self fulfilling effect. 463 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: I want to get into redistricting. So Trump had this 464 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: brilliant idea that he was going to redistrict and get 465 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: more seats, and it works if Trump has the Trump 466 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: turnout that he did before. So when you have an 467 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: around a ten point shift, that means that you are 468 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: seeing a seed that was So say you have a 469 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: safe R plus twenty, you make that R plus nine, 470 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 1: you think you're going to be fine, but in a 471 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: in a general, in a midterm where everything shifts ten points, 472 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: you're not fine, right, you have to fight to keep 473 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: that seat. 474 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: It's it's it is as it's the classic issue always 475 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: with with kind of an over gerrymanderin right that you 476 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 3: I mean, think of it this way that you take 477 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: the you take the levee right, and you want to 478 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 3: cover more territory with it, so you carve up the 479 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: top few feet of the levee and you move it over. 480 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: If you have a really big storm, the levee is 481 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: going to fail. And that's it's. It's it's just basic math. Now, 482 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: I I have I have been told to people who 483 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: really know districts well that the Texas jerry mander apparently 484 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 3: is pretty smartly done. It kind of yeah, that it's 485 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: there's kind of no way it can be overwhelmed. And 486 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 3: again these are people who really know districts. 487 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I have also been told that very 488 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: thing by other Texas district ee people. 489 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but some of these other states where you're in, 490 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 3: they're eking out like they're think they're eking out one 491 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 3: extra seat. But you know, overall, it looks like the 492 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: effect of all of this is likely to turn out 493 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: to be a wash in terms of because Democrats are 494 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 3: them elves being so are being so aggressive. So it's 495 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: you know, it's a. 496 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: Newsome and by the way, you know, again Newsome politically 497 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: not totally my vibe, but he did really save Democrats here. 498 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well he he, and I can't remember what I 499 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 3: think they're gonna They think they get five seats, you know, 500 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 3: kind of equal equal to Texas. But in some ways 501 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: an even more important part of it was that he 502 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 3: gave sanction to every other blue state to do the 503 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 3: same thing. And that is something it's it's always been 504 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: very uncharacteristic for Democrats to act in this way, but 505 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 3: he sort of set a different standard, and so you 506 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 3: have people like the governor of Maryland saying, hey, we're 507 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: doing it too, which you know, yeah, so it And 508 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: the thing is is that I said before that it 509 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: seems like it's likely to be a wash. You know, 510 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 3: let's say if it ends up being you know, two 511 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: or three seats in either direction, you have a big 512 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 3: you have a big election, and you're probably talking about 513 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 3: twenty or thirty seats moving. So yeah, two or three 514 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 3: seats is not gonna is. I mean, put it this way, 515 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 3: if the election comes down to Republicans were saved by 516 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 3: adding three seats, it'll that will mean it was a 517 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 3: disaster of an election for Democrats, quite apart from any jerrymanderin. 518 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again we don't know what Trump's going to 519 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: try to do just put sand in the gears, but 520 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 1: it sure feels like he is going to would have 521 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: to do a lot. Josh Marshall, will you please come back. 522 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: Yes, of course, whenever you call me. 523 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: Congressman Robert Garcia represents California's forty second district and is 524 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: the head of the Oversight Committee. Welcome to Bass Politics. 525 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: Congressman Garcia, how are you ranking member of Oversight? So 526 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: tell us what do you have? 527 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 5: I mean, we continue, obviously to get a ton of documents, pictures, 528 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 5: photos from all sorts of sources, and right now we 529 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 5: are going through an enormous amount of documents, about five 530 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 5: thousand pages of photos and videos from it, such as 531 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 5: Jeffrey Epstein's Island that were given to us by the 532 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 5: US Virgin Islands. Those photos and videos are quite disturbing 533 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 5: and pretty creepy, to be honest, just to never kind 534 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 5: of before seen look at what some of the rooms 535 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 5: look like, and video of the estate itself on the island. 536 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 4: And then more importantly, we also have received. 537 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 5: Pretty significant amount of financial documents from both JP Morgan 538 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 5: as well as Dortchy Bank, and these are two of 539 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 5: the institutions that are really critical in the investigation to 540 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 5: understand how the money was transferred within Epstein's sexual trafficking 541 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 5: ring and who was paying who, where Jeffrey Epsten was 542 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 5: getting his money from, and there's a lot there. What's 543 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 5: important is while we have this information from these two banks, 544 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 5: they've just given us a first of batch and that's 545 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 5: where our focus is right now, which is really on 546 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 5: all the financial documents. 547 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: Are these videos that the Virgin Islands took of the 548 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: house or are they videos that they seized? 549 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 4: These are video that they. 550 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 5: Took and so there are many more videos and photos 551 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 5: than the ones we released today. We'll be releasing all 552 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 5: of those in the days ahead. We have to be 553 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 5: very careful. Even with the pictures that we put out today. 554 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 5: We had to make some reactions in the photos. There 555 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 5: were photos, for example, of Jeffrey Epstein's phone and some 556 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 5: of the numbers that he had pre programmed. 557 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 4: So we had to redact some of those names. 558 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 5: There were names of possible victims on this large chalkboard 559 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 5: that he had in one of his living rooms, so 560 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 5: we had to redact some names from there. 561 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: And so there is a process going on. But we 562 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 4: will release all the photos. 563 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 5: In the videos in the days ahead of the Virgin 564 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 5: Islands documents. 565 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: Now there are more videos that are Jeffrey Ebstein's videos, 566 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: but you don't have those yet. 567 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 4: That's right. 568 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 5: I mean, look, the vast majority of the evidence for 569 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 5: this investigation, and vast majority of the Epstein files are 570 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 5: at the. 571 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 4: Department of Justice. 572 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 5: The Department of Justice, as we understand, has an enormous 573 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 5: amount of videos and photogs that are actually of Jeffrey 574 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 5: that were in his possession and that investigators put together 575 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 5: at the FBI. We understand that many of those videos, 576 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 5: of course, contain images of parties that he had and 577 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 5: of women and girls, and in some cases, of course, 578 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 5: some of these goals, as we know, were minors. We 579 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 5: are demanding that all of the files, whether it's the videos, 580 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 5: the photographs, all get turned over to our committee, which 581 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 5: has a subpoena on the full EPs files, and Congress 582 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 5: has also passed as we know just recently an actual 583 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 5: law that requires the president to get all these files 584 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 5: out the door, but they continue to cover up the 585 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 5: Epstein files and they have to understand it. We will 586 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 5: continue to hammer away and if anyone that's out there 587 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 5: to get and put together all of these different documents 588 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 5: that the DOJ should be giving us directly. 589 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the financial documents. So you have these 590 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: documents from Deutsche Bank and from JP Morgan in the documents. 591 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: Have you looked at them and are are their names? 592 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: You know? Are their numbers for account? How hard is 593 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: it to figure out where the money is coming from 594 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: or going to? 595 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,959 Speaker 5: It is going to take us a couple of weeks 596 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 5: to actually these documents are actually pretty complicated financial documents. 597 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 5: Some of them are transfers, some are from organizations and 598 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 5: names that we need to deciphered exactly what is being 599 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 5: said in some of these documents. Others are just financial 600 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 5: ledgers like you've seen the you know, checking account or 601 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 5: someone's basic checking our savings account. 602 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 4: It is pretty significant. 603 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 5: The amount of money that moved in and out of 604 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 5: Jeff Westein's essential criminal empire that he had, and what 605 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 5: we heard from the survivors directly. Multiple times I've heard 606 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 5: from this from them one on one meetings and round 607 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 5: tables we've had, is they have said to follow the money, 608 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 5: that continue to follow the money. There was an enormous 609 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 5: amount of money that was paid for these horrible things 610 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 5: that were done to these children and these women, and 611 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 5: these financial records should. 612 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 4: Help us unlock a lot of that information. 613 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: So they have thirty days because this discharge petition set 614 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: the clock going on thirty days to release this stuff. 615 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: We know that the Justice Department has it. Do you 616 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: think they're making We know they paid a million dollars 617 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: in overtime to FBI agents to redact, So that would 618 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: make me think that the information is ready. Is that right? 619 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 4: We think that the information is ready to be released. 620 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 5: We know that when Trump first got into office, there 621 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 5: was a review done by the DOJ. I mean Pembondy 622 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 5: talked about that has been reported in the media that 623 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 5: Pembondi went to Donald Trump and said, hey, you are 624 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 5: in these files. Pambondi claimed that they were on her desk. 625 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 5: They made a decision early on to not release anything 626 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 5: or essentially give up these kind of maga social influencers 627 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 5: kind of limited amount of documents. 628 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 4: We remember it was kind of a joke. 629 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 5: Since then, they have been determined to not release anything 630 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 5: else and to downplay the actual files. And now we 631 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 5: know that they have a significant amount of document in 632 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 5: their possession and there have to be compelled to release them. 633 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 5: And what we're concerned about now is that somehow this 634 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 5: sham new investigation that Trump has demanded through the Southern 635 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 5: District of New York around you know, Democrats or others 636 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 5: that he believe are involved in the files, is going 637 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 5: to somehow be used as an excuse by Pambondy to 638 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 5: not release the documents of the Congress. And what I've 639 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 5: reminded the DJ and we've done this directly, is that 640 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 5: the subpoena that we put in place a few weeks 641 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 5: ago doesn't have any language about ongoing investigations. So they 642 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 5: have to provide all the documents to us, whether they 643 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 5: want to or not, and we'll see if they comply. 644 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: There's some talk that Pambondy would testify about this. Could 645 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: that happen, Will that happen. 646 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 4: It's something that we definitely want to do. 647 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 5: We want to have a conversation with her, and we 648 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 5: have a lot of questions not just about the Epstein files, 649 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 5: but about Glen Maxwell. And you know, when are we 650 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 5: going to find out how the hell who made the 651 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 5: decision to transfer her to that lower security prison. She's 652 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 5: been now transferred to this prison. She's getting all these 653 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 5: secret meetings, she's meeting with Todd blanch to the DOJ, 654 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 5: and no one is giving the Congress any information about 655 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 5: how this all happened, Who directed the transfer, why was 656 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 5: it done, what was Glene Maxwell promised? Did Pambondi authorize 657 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 5: this transfer? These are basic questions that any normal administration 658 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 5: or responsible administration would answer. 659 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 4: To the public and to the Congress. 660 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 5: And so it's all part of this broader cover up 661 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 5: that is clearly, in our opinion, being directed by Donald Trump. 662 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: It feels like the Oversight Committee is I mean, I 663 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: know that there's controversy, but it feels like the House 664 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: is weirdly united on the ebscene stuff and that it's 665 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: not as partisan as everything else. Is that true or 666 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: is that just vibes? And also can you use that 667 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: in any way right? Because we're seeing members get more 668 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: involved in discharge petitions, We're seeing a lot of pushback 669 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: on Speaker Johnson. He clearly does not have control of 670 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: the caucus. I mean, is there opportunity there for Democrats? 671 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 4: There is? 672 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 5: I mean, look, I think clearly Republicans have been on 673 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 5: board in some of our efforts on the closure, but 674 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 5: they've also had to be almost forced or pushed into 675 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 5: it and have a lot of Republicans signed the Dishart petition. 676 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 5: It wasn't until we forced the vote that you saw 677 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 5: the wave on the Oversight Committee. 678 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 4: We haven't had a lot of Republicans supportive. 679 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 5: It's been a couple but once we've forced votes on subpoenas, 680 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 5: or once we've pressured the majority into getting bank documents, 681 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 5: or once we've publicly called on actions to be taken 682 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 5: and have essentially shown the majority that we do have 683 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 5: some Republicans with us, that's when there has been action. 684 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 5: I mean, it hasn't the Republicans have clined, oh, we've 685 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,959 Speaker 5: released X amount of documents. They've only released documents after 686 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 5: Democrats have essentially forced their hand or released a few moments, 687 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 5: then they released the rest. And so they have been 688 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 5: I think kind of dragged along. There have been a 689 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 5: couple of them that have been principled from I think 690 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 5: the start, but a vast majority have, I think reluctantly 691 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 5: come forward and we encourage that support that we want 692 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 5: more folks to do the right thing. And as the 693 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 5: President continues to get weaker and his power seems to 694 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 5: be diminishing within his own party and base, I think 695 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 5: you're going to continue to see more Republicans stand up 696 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 5: and do the right thing. And in many ways, the 697 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 5: Epstein files and this investigation, I believe, is what's going 698 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 5: to break. That's really a bond that somehow Donald Trump 699 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 5: has created over years with his magabase. 700 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: Are we going to see the Epstein files. 701 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 4: I think we will. I hope that we're able to 702 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 4: sooner than later. 703 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 5: Certainly, when we get into the majority, the power that 704 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 5: we're going to have of subpoena and getting documents will 705 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 5: be dramatically different than what we have now in our ability. 706 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 5: But absolutely, I mean, these women, these survivors, they deserve justice, 707 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 5: they deserve the truth. 708 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Congressman Garcia. 709 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 3: They're no more perfect. 710 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: Jesse Cannon my jug fast. 711 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: So you may remember some of the members of the 712 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 2: New York Young Republican Club is having their tech leaked 713 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: and well, let's be real here, sounding like a bunch 714 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 2: of Nazis, bigots and racists and saying things that, well, 715 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 2: we're obvious to people like us, but shocked a lot 716 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: of people. Well, I'm going to shock you here. They've 717 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 2: invited this German leader who had an I Love Hitler 718 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: chat who amongst us? 719 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, who could have seen these young people, they're basically 720 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: children in their thirties and forties, who had a group 721 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: chat where they mused about all the anti Semitism. In 722 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: case you are Jewish and you think these people are 723 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: not hugely anti Semitic, they in fact are. 724 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. 725 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: New York Republicans GALA will recognize this guy. He's from 726 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: a political parties called the Alternative for Germany. They are 727 00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: far right. I know you'll be shocked to hear this statement. 728 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: To Letico, The group defended inviting the German politician, saying 729 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: the AfD is a model for fighting the far left. 730 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: That's right, Antifa. Remind me who fought Antifa? What's the 731 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: faugh for? 732 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 2: I just never remember this part. The thing I think about, 733 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 2: though with this that really does make me quite angry 734 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 2: is while groups like the ADL set up tip lines 735 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: about Zoron, this is happening in New York City, right, 736 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 2: in their fucking backyard. One of my other favorite things 737 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 2: is this club has removed their address from Oddline so 738 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 2: that they don't get protested anymore. 739 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: Great stuff, great stuff, the best. That's it for this 740 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: episode of Fast Politics. Tune in every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, 741 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 1: and Saturday to hear the best minds and politics make 742 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: sense of all this chaos. If you enjoy this podcast, 743 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: please send it to a friend and keep the conversation going. 744 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.