1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to episode two sixty seven. Thank you for being here. 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll do song wars Eddie comes in. We'll 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: do two songs with the exact same name, battling each other. 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: For example, crazy by Patsy Klein, Crazy for feeling so Blue? 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Or NARLS Barkley does that make me crazy? So it's 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: all those. It was really fun, a lot more fun 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be. That's a Mic 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: d suggested segment that I think we'll do in a 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: few weeks. Let's do it again. Yeah, have a whole 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: lot of the list. We could do. So many songs 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: have the same name, which is confusing whenever you get 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: on a streaming site. Yeah, because if you were to 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: stream and look up jump, would they tell you Chris 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: Cross or Van Halen first? Well, let me look. I 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: bet a lot of it's based on what you already search. 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: I typed in jump, House of Pain. Jump Around comes 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: up first in mind, then Van Halen Jump, then third 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: Eyeblind Jumper. I wish you would step back from that edge, 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: my friend, and then jump from criss Cross at four. 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: I wonder why I guess jump around because I play 21 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: in the dance party sometimes yeah, and I searched for 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: it to hear that intro that be so we'll do that. 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: Coming up. I'm a massive Better than Ezra fan. Do 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: we have any clips on this computer? Kevin Griffin of 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: Better than Ezra, the lead singer on nineties Alternative on Good, 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: celebrating twenty five years at number one, which they are 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: one of my favorite bands of all times, just because 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: of when I grew up they were somewhat close. This 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: is it. It's a little bit of good. We'll talk 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: to him about all the nineties nineties Alternative. Here you go, Well, 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: maybe I'm just too sure, or maybe I'm just too 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: frighten by the sound. Here comes the chorus that you 33 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: may not know the words too. It's good. What's great 34 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: about that is that he tells the story about that 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: coming up, one of my favorite things to sing. He 36 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: was like, it's good, and I was like, wonder what 37 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: that just it's it's good. Thank you guys. Let's get going. 38 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: So it's now time for Battle of the songs with 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: the same title. Eddie is joining me for this bit. Eddie, 40 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: thanks again, Yeah, thanks for having me. Check out the 41 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: store Loser's podcast. Eddie is one of the three co 42 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: hosts on that show. Now we have twelve songs we're 43 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: gonna do. This is the battle of songs with the 44 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: same title. Okay, we're gonna start with Chriss Cross versus 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: Van Halen Jump Jump right. Here we go. First up 46 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: Van Haleno nineteen eighty four. This song came out in 47 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two. Jump from Criss Cross came out, Eddie, 48 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: here's winner. Come on, man, it's Van Haling Really yeah, 49 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: I do. You can't beat those keyboards on that that 50 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: that that I mean, sure, I grew up with mostly 51 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: Criss Cross. That was more of my wheelhouse growing up. 52 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: But Van Halen, dude, that's a jam. I'm going Criss 53 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: Cross because I was so inspired in second grade, I 54 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: wore my pants backward because they wore all their clothes backwards. Correct. 55 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: I thought, these kids are rapping. This is so cool, 56 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: and I war. I broke my button on my pants 57 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: and only had two pair of jeans. And I got 58 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: a whooping when I got home because I wanted my 59 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 1: pants backward and broke the button on my pants. That's 60 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: how much I loved Criss Cross and they I had 61 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: the cassette that had two songs one on each side 62 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: singles the A and the B side and on the 63 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: back side was I missed the bus? I missed the bus, 64 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: So I'm going criss cross, Mike d you are the 65 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: always the one that's gonna tip the scale. I go 66 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: criss Cross. There you go. Wow, guys, criss Cross nineteen 67 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: ninety two. Would you all wear overalls ever? Yeah? Not 68 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: necessarily backwards, but you were the overall huh? And I 69 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: think a lot of that too was Malcolm, Jamal Warner 70 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: and Cosby show correct, but you had it unbuttoned, one 71 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: of them at least. Yeah. Otherwise you were a farmer, 72 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: which also people did in my town. Which one do 73 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: you think was the bigger hit though? Van Halen number 74 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: one for X weeks or criss Cross number one for 75 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: X week criss Cross, Well, van Halen was number one 76 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: for five weeks in nineteen eighty four. Criss Cross was 77 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: number one for eight weeks in nineteen ninety two. All right, 78 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: next up, Iggy Azelia versus Reba Eddie. What song do 79 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: you think that is? Fancy Fancy is correct? Reba nineteen 80 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: ninety one. Here is Iggy a Zelaya Fancy from twenty fourteen. 81 00:04:53,640 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: Fancy it's pretty easy one, I think, is it? Oh? 82 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: They're both jams to pick up. It shouldn't even be 83 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: a conversation. Eggy just happens to have a song that's 84 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: the same name. It's not even closed, Eddie. Which one 85 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: do you pick? Yeah, I'm going to Yeah, I go 86 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: Reaba too? Um? Which one do you think was number 87 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: one on the Hot one hundred chart for longer? I'm 88 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go Fancy? Uh? Well, Reba in nineteen 89 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: ninety one. Fancy peaked at eight. Only crazy because he 90 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: didn't talking about a pop chart. A chart that's all 91 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: that is all all the charts. Iggy was number one 92 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: for six weeks in twenty fourteen, so she was had 93 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: the bigger hit. How about Lionel, Ritchie and Adele? What 94 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: song did they have at the same title? Hello? Right? 95 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: Almost sounds the same? All right? Here is Lionel Richie 96 00:05:50,920 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four is nicest, sweetest guy, just such a 97 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: legend and just the warmest. The minute you meet him, 98 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: You're like, man, I got so full of love. So 99 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: just love that guy. You want to hear that about legends, 100 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: Just the best doesn't have to be doesn't need to 101 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: be don't even know why. He is just the best. Adele, 102 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: this is a Hello Hello. It's me. I was wondering 103 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: a fafter oh these years, should like to me two smashes? 104 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: Which one do you pick? All due respect to Lionel Ritchie, 105 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 1: I wasn't really alive or knowing if I was alive. 106 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: It was nineteen eighty four. You were alive, Okay, Well, 107 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: I didn't really know what was happening in music nineteen 108 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: eighty four, so that wasn't part of my life. When 109 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: Adele came out with Hello, I think it was her 110 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: second album, so she or she had taken a break 111 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: and came back with Hello, and it was a big 112 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: deal because to hear her voice again and she was 113 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: gonna keep doing music. So I'm going with Adele. Dude, 114 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: I'm picking Lionel Richie because that song is still like commercials. 115 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: It's been around ninete eighty four and you still see 116 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: a peanut commercial. Hello Peanut, I love. They'll listen. They're 117 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: both great songs. That's you really can't argue that any 118 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: of these songs suck. But I'm going Lionel Ritchie just 119 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: because it has stood the test of time and if 120 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: I get to pick one list two right now, I'm 121 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: picking Lionel Richie. Okay, Mike, do you're the tipping Yeah, 122 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: even though I wasn't alive. I'll go line now, line um. 123 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: Which one do you think was the bigger head? Eddie Adele? 124 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: Adele was number one for seven weeks in twenty fifteen, 125 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: Lionel was number one for two weeks. Yeah, so Adela 126 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: is your winner? There? Girlfriend? Who do you think sings 127 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 1: a song called girlfriend? We have two artists a girl friend. 128 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: Can you give me name any of them? In sync? Okay? 129 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: Featuring Nellie? Okay? Two thou twenty two thousand and two. 130 00:07:49,680 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: Here you go. Here's a girlfriend you were my girlfriend? 131 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: Remember that? Yes, of course? Or Avril Levine. Here's Avril 132 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: girlfriend general friend? You know this? No, I never heard 133 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: of Okay, it's easy for you. Then go ahead give 134 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: me in sync? Yeah, me too. Although I liked the 135 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: aver song, but that was the only one number one 136 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: of those two? Avril? Was that a single? Was that 137 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: a hit? Two thousand and seven number one song? Okay? 138 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: How about we have three people here? They all have 139 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: the same title. The bands are Nickel Back, The Baby 140 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:36,479 Speaker 1: and Post Malone. Oh what is this photograph? No Nickelback, 141 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: The Baby and post Malone. I can't think of what's 142 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: the circle? No, no, no, got nothing? Rock star rock 143 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: star nickel Back two thousand and seven, one Rocks thousand, 144 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: remember this, I have the case ada. Wait, let's say 145 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: you say that the song that's funny here is the 146 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: Baby in twenty twenty this year? Yeah, post Malone from 147 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Stop. Oh, my brother's got that guest and 148 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: they always be smoking like a rock style. This sounds 149 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: easy for me. I hate Nickelback. The Baby. That's a 150 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: cool song, but I mean whatever, dude, post Malone, this 151 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: is a jam. That is a jam. But I'm going Nickelback. 152 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: What just because it's wrong with you? They go back 153 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: to great people just hate on him for existences? What 154 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: did he say here? I know Mike's gonna tip this 155 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: to post Malone because he's such a big post all right, 156 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: that's why I think you went Nickelback. No, you knew 157 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: Michael was going. I think I went nickel Back for 158 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: the reason you don't go Nickelback. Okay, if I got 159 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: to pick one song to listen to of those three 160 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: out right now, I probably picked postmone But nobody ever 161 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: stands out for Nickelback, and you feel like, yeah, somebody's 162 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: got to be that voice. Nickelback versus Ed Sheeron nickel Backs, 163 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: and two of these Nickelback versus Ed Sheering, Mmm, what 164 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: song do they sing? That's the same photograph? That's correct. 165 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: Here is Ed Sheeron twenty fifteen. We keep this loving 166 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: a photograph. We made these memories for ourselves. Where are I? 167 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: And here is Nickelback? Look at it, sotograph. I'm going 168 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: nickel Back twice? When what is that on Johnny's head? 169 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: What the joy? Big thing in you? Whatever? I'm going 170 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: Nickelback for this sucks because I've never heard that Edge 171 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: shearons on. Well, then you got you know, if you've 172 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: never heard it, come on, I've never heard Edge Shearon's photograph. 173 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: But there's no way I'm going for Nickelbacks. That's my point, 174 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: and that's why I just stick up for Nickelback. And 175 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: if that song came on at a concert and they're 176 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: playing it, or they're playing it before a band comes on, 177 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna sing. Look at this phone, you're gonna sing it. Joey, 178 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: I thought, all right, Mike, you gonna swing it. You know. 179 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm going with Have I heard the song on the radio? 180 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: Which one I would keep on? And I would keep 181 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: on the Nickelbacks? So nice nickelback with a victory funny 182 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: we have we have a six more? You like this game? 183 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: That's a great game, f gl Okay, Justin Bieber baby? No, no, wait, 184 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: what's the one they spell Justin Bieber? Um does uh? Mike? 185 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: You know obviously Mike knows. Uh, they know me. No, No, 186 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: what's the one they spell out? You know I'm talking about. 187 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the answer, So I don't know what 188 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: is it? Holy? Holy h Eli, holy why holy moly? Okay? Uh? 189 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: Florida Georgia Line twenty sixteen Here you Go, which, in 190 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: an ironic twist of fate, was a Justin Bieber song 191 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: before he got rid of it. Wow, he took it first, 192 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: cut it didn't put it out, so then Florida Georgia 193 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: Line got it second and cut it. A great song 194 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: by the way, Okay, Justin Bieber, this is the song 195 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: that's out right now here you go? Oh God line 196 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: into the track star can we end up the second? Home? 197 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: Oh me, oh me homie home he feels so chance 198 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: the rapper that's what he says. My Chance comes on. Um, 199 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: he's like Chance the Rapper, and then Chance goes yeah 200 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: does the thing? Um? Eddie which one song? And they're 201 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: both really good songs, and both those artist get hate 202 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: it on a little bit, but I don't feel like 203 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: they should. I they're both fantastic. But I the Justin 204 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: Bieber Holy is really good, really good, and maybe it's 205 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: new and fresh. And I don't think I would have 206 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: been on it if Caitlin wasn't on it, but she 207 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: was like, put a new song, let's listen. It's great. Yeah, yeah, 208 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: my kids love it. Did it on SNL? It's really good? 209 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: Oh they did? Yeah? Cool? Um, how about this is 210 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: gonna be a little tougher Eddie hot Chel Ray and 211 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: Smashing Pumpkins tonight Yeah, right, tonight, tonight night tonight. So 212 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: they're both tonight tonight. Huh Wow. Here is Smashing Pumpkins 213 00:13:51,280 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, come on, and here is Hot Shell 214 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: Rag twenty eleven. Okay, tonight. It's a good song. Were 215 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: you ever a Smashing Puplkins kid? No? I mean I 216 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: listened to it because that's that was you know, growing up. 217 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: It was well everyone was listening to at the time. Yeah. Same. 218 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: I was never a big Smashing Pumpkin super fan. I 219 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: liked some of the songs Bullet with Butterfly Wings, freaking 220 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: awesome they had. They had songs I liked, but I 221 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: was never into just their vibe. Is that's despite all 222 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: my rage, This, spite all my rage, I am still 223 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: just a rat in a cage. They had. Smashing Pumpkins 224 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: has a great library of songs. Yeah, they did. Um, 225 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: today is the greatest day of even known because these 226 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: sings like nineteen seventy nine, No, nineteen seventy nine, this one, 227 00:14:53,760 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: oh yeah, none d seven to Night. Yeah, that's good stuff. 228 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: So oh, come on, okay, it's very dramatic. This is 229 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: Today's the greatest day of my life. What's it called today? Yeah? 230 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: So I think he's driving the ice cream truck on 231 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: the video on this one, Yeah, I think so. And 232 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: that kicks that distorted guitar kicks in that's a whole 233 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: other episode. Good stuff, um, Eddie, which one you pick at, 234 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: Smashing Pumpkins or Hot Shell Ray. I do like that 235 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: Hot Shell race song, but I mean I gotta go 236 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: Smashing Pumpkins. Yeah, I got Smashing Pumpkins. Yeah, play that 237 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: from Smashing Pumpkins. You're winning tonight, okay, nine of twelve. 238 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: Narles Barkley, Patsy Klein, Oh good stuff, crazy Yeah, Patsy 239 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: Cline nineteen sixty one crazy, I'm crazy for feeling so lonely. 240 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: And what Eddie and I hope is that if you're 241 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: somewhere and they play this song, you just slide in 242 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: the fun fact that Willie Nelson wrote it just out 243 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: of nowhere, be like, hey, obviously, you know Willie Nelson 244 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: wrote this right right, Yeah. If you're not gonna do it, 245 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna do yeah, because we're gonna do everything every 246 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: single time. We even had to find a creative way 247 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: to do it right then, and that's what he did. 248 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: You know. Willie wrote that one two thousand and six. 249 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: Narls Barkley Crazy Jam. Sure, well not think of Narls Barkley. 250 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: I think it's seeing them at ACL festival. Yeah, writing 251 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: this song, ye have pop pretty big. It's easy, right, 252 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: easy as pie, go ahead, Yeah, Patsy Cline pain still jam. 253 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: People are still inspired by her story, her music. What no, 254 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: I was just laughing because last night at the dinner table, 255 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: I was telling my kids that growing up, my dad 256 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: had this family friend. He'd come over once in a 257 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: while with a guitar and in a real thick Mexican accent, 258 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: like real thick, and he would sing crazy and he 259 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: would sing Gracie, I'm Gracie. And my kids love it 260 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: when I told that story. H Joe Nichols versus Usher? 261 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 1: What song sunny and so joking? I don't know. HeLa 262 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: makes a cloth? Uh. The song is called Yeah Here 263 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: is a Joe twenty fourteen. I haven't thought about this 264 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: song since the day we stop playing it, I guess, 265 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: and I like Joe the song. It just left no 266 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: impression on me whatsoever. I think you could have me 267 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: list every country song I've ever heard him I live, 268 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: and this song when they come up. Not a hate song, 269 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: just it just sounds like a generic song from that time. Yeah, 270 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: that's funny. Um and then Usher, Yeah, two thousand and four, 271 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: Here you go, this was a jam Eddie Yeah, sure, yeah, sure, 272 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: sure asure Okay, two more DJ Sammy Kane Brown mm hmm. 273 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: Let's see when you figure out what the DJ Sammy 274 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: song is, you're gonna be like, oh, that's mean. You 275 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: may not even know who that is? I don't know 276 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: who DJ Sammy is? Kan Brown? H what's the song? 277 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: Where is it? Day? What is is that? It? It isn't? Uh, 278 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: let's play the DJ Sammy Heaven here you go? You 279 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: know the song? Yeah, but who's originally it's? Who's that originally? 280 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: It's not? Yeah, that's a sample sample? Yeah for sure, Mike, 281 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: where you can google that? I don't know how are 282 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: you gonna google that? But just what DJ Sammy samples? 283 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: What's song? Okay, that's what you gotta go. You literally 284 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: google what you're asking this work. I'm the worst. Google 285 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: is over and ask Jeeves trying to find the exact 286 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: way to ask the fella. Excuse me, ask Jeeves. Brian Adams, 287 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, baby. Yeah, I even know that 288 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: song and Ray always things when we used to what 289 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: it's wrong with me? Yeah? Um? So DJ Sammy or 290 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: Brian Adams or Kane Brown. Here's Kane Brown Heaven, which 291 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: was a number one country song for him. Everybody's talking 292 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: about even really just can't wait to go to jam? 293 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: Do you happen to have the Brian Adams? Mike, is 294 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: it in the system? Yeah? This song? So are you 295 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: throwing Brian out. Yeah, we have to. Yeah, this is 296 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: a jam and damn dude, Yeah, Branan Ray would play 297 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: this and I would cry you would you played in 298 00:19:53,720 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: sound checks digging about jam jam jam And we have 299 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: to pick that one? Right? Oh for sure, Mike, which 300 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: one would you have picked? I'd probably got on Kane Brown. Yeah, can't. 301 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: It's a good version of all those are good. Okay, 302 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: here's your last one forever from Chris Brown or Jesse 303 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: and the Rippers. Yes, that's Chris Brown, which, by the way, 304 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: that's a good song and they use it in the 305 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: office when they're going down the aisle, when Jim and 306 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: Pammer getting married make it really makes me emotional. And 307 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: then Jesse and the Rippers, which they reached number one 308 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: in Japan on full House. Here you go. The choir 309 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: comes into the church they met him on They got 310 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: a bus ride to the because he went skydiving, landed 311 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: in the tomato tree or not tomatoes, whatever tree it was, 312 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: and there's oranges, got stuck in it. Farmer maybe apple 313 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: cuts him down. He gets cuts down, lands in the thing. 314 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: They drive them to it gets there in time, sets 315 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: to the piano peels off his his overalls and he's 316 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: playing in the church and the bus that picks him up. 317 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: All the gospel singers get out and sing. Yeah, it's perfect, fantastic, fantastic, 318 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: It's perfect. Um if yeah, I mean this is one 319 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: of Caitlin and my favorite songs together period, because we 320 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: love it so much. It's um if every word I 321 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: say could make you laugh. I talk forever. Uh are 322 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: the words there? I asked the sky just what they 323 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: sou They said, forever? Uh yeah, jam foreverever? Yes, yeah, Um, 324 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: they're both great. Go ahead, Eddie Na Jessing the Rippers 325 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. And did you know that's not actually 326 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: Jessing the Ruppers song, isn't that's not Jesse singing it is. 327 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: It's because John Stamwell singing that version. But the original 328 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: song is a Beach Boy song and it's freaking fantastic. 329 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: Is it called forever? That's the cover because you know 330 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: in Full House he played drumps for the Beach Boys. 331 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: In real life he plays dumps with the beach I 332 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: saw them like a few years ago. He was playing 333 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: drums with the Beach Boys. You go playing for my phone? 334 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: This Beach Boys is h I love it, dude, Old 335 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: Beach Boys cut the Sky great. Huh, great music? Lesson 336 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: I have no idea of Beach Boys. Yeah, I mean 337 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: you can tell from the writing. It's like, oh it 338 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: does sound beach boysh but now it makes sense and 339 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: it was such a great song on Full House. I 340 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: was like, man, they were a freaking great song for 341 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: ye Jesse Consopolis to play because fat Fish Records was 342 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: his record label. They called him and said, Jesse, the 343 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: song has gone number one in Japan and so they 344 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: wanted him to travel there for two weeks. He takes 345 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: the offer, so they go. And I went to Japan 346 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: because of that. Because because in my life, having absolutely 347 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: no money until I got to be an adult, I 348 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: never went anywhere. We couldn't afford it. Everyone on a 349 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: vacation as a kid. So when I started to have 350 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: to find things to do. I went to Hawaii, yeah, 351 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: because of the break right. And I went to London 352 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: because friends they go to London, they do. That's where 353 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: Monic and Chandler hook up for the first time. Okay. 354 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: I went to Japan because of Full House. Okay, I 355 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: think that probably much. What was Iceland? I just thought 356 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: it was cool. I went to Ice because it was 357 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: actually closer than I thought it was because I'd been 358 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: to Europe, just pretty new to traveling, and I was like, man, 359 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: that's like nine hours across the ocean. But Iceland was 360 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: like up and not all the way there. Yeah, And 361 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: so I just googled it. Yeah, it was like okay, 362 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: here we go. And Norway because you had to Norway 363 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: because Barrett Girls said let's go right. And Australia because 364 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: Nikita lives in Australia and in Christmas time it was 365 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: warm over there and I don't have any family here 366 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: to spend Christmas with. So I went to Australia for that. 367 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: That's cool. Have I been anywhere else? M and to 368 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: every state except for Maine an Alaska? DA pretty well 369 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: traveled now now for someone who went to know where? Ever. Yeah, 370 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: I went to Ireland about myself, Oh Ireland, what was 371 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: that for you two? No, it was Garth and Ireland 372 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: the concept shirts all season times, the shows that never happened. Um, 373 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't. It was close. It was the closest European 374 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: country as you can say. I'm pretty lazy when it 375 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: comes to traveling far and I did nothing but stay 376 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: on a little bust I'm a boy myself and just 377 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: wrote and then um went looked at one thing today. 378 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: It's pretty boring for me because it's the drinking is 379 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: such big deal there, that's part of who they are, 380 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: and I don't. So I got over there and I 381 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: was like, what the crap? And I was like, I'll 382 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: just take a train and go somewhere else in Europe 383 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: and except it's an island and there are no trains 384 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: they go out of Europe and are they go out 385 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: of Ireland? And the other thing was what was the 386 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: other thing that I learned while I was there? Oh, 387 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: Ireland is the size of Iowa, basically real the entire country. Wow, 388 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: if that gives you perspective on what that is. Yeah, 389 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: not very big, Like I don't know, it'd be one 390 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: of our small states in America. Well, there you have 391 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: it is that. It was at the end that was 392 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: it might do a great job. Yeah, good game coming 393 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: up with this game? Than there are a lot more 394 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: than I thought. Yeah, you know, I mentioned a podcast 395 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with. It's from the Ringer 396 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: and I've only listened to one episode. They'll only put 397 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: one out and they're going through songs that meant, and 398 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: they just did one on Atlantis Moore set You Ought 399 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: to Know, and they talk about the whole story of 400 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: the song. It's pretty much. It's pretty pretty good podcast. 401 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: So they take a song and then kind of break 402 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: it down. That's really cool, but not just about the 403 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: words the song, what was happening around the time. It's 404 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: pretty cool podcast. I'm sure the name of it, but 405 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: that's what I'm listening to you right, okay. And then 406 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: at the end they have it on whatever platform you're 407 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: listening to. They have it connected to the stream, so 408 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: as soon as the podcast over goes right into the song. Nice. Yeah, 409 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: So all right, that's what's up Eddie the Sore Losers. 410 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: Why should people listen to this Sore Losers because it's funny. 411 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: We're just three guys. We talk about sports, yes, but 412 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: then we talk about our lives and I think we 413 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: all just live very different lives. So it's very entertaining. 414 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: Please give us a listen Sore Losers podcasts. There you go, 415 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: the Sore Losers podcast. Get it. Thank you, Eddie, Thank 416 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: you man. That was fun. All with us right now 417 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: is Kevin Griffin of Better than Ezra as Good celebrates 418 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: its twenty five year anniversary of going number one. Holy crap, Hey, Kevin, 419 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: how are you? God? It feels so good to hear 420 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: your voice. You know the same to you, my friend, 421 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: And I tell you. The great thing for me is 422 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: whenever I'm doing like this interview here, I get to 423 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: really focus on and I get to geek out on 424 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: a guy that I know in real life and wouldn't 425 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: geek out on in real life because I don't want 426 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: to be a loser, but right now I get to 427 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: go full loser and it's it feels great. Yes, So 428 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: I'm obviously I have those guys too, and you you are. 429 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, You're one of them for me, Bobby, 430 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: and I'm so happy that I get to be that 431 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: guy for you as well. I see and this isn't 432 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: on the sheet and we'll get I want to get 433 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: to good and I have so much to talk about. 434 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: But the band that you do with Mark McGrath and 435 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: uh Emerson from Tonic, right, like those guys when you 436 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: get together, are you also not? Are you? Like? Man, 437 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: we have such a bond because we all kind of 438 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: went through the same thing at the same time. Like 439 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: what are those rooms like? So so we have. So 440 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: we have a band called Ezra ray Heart. It's a 441 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: nineties jug nineties jugger not uh that that's with Emerson 442 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: Art from Tonic and Mark mcgrathin Figure A. And we 443 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: we have so much fun because we have so many 444 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: of the same stories, um from the from those years 445 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: where just the stupidity, the decadence all the nineties here, 446 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: you know what they say, you know, I think it 447 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: was that meme the nineties the greatest decade ever and 448 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 1: no evidence. So we kind of h we have a 449 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: good time better than Ezra, one of my top five 450 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: favorite bands on my lifetime even still today. You guys 451 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: formed in nineteen eighty eight, you formed the band. Where 452 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: were you in your life? Like, what was your long 453 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: term future in your mind in nineteen ninety eight? Whenever 454 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: you you get the guys together. Oh, in eighty eight, 455 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, I was a sophomore at LSU. I'd always 456 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: been in bands, you know, but but at that time, 457 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, there there was really the promise of massive, 458 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: you know success. You you wanted to just be you 459 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: wanted to just be a band and tour. But do 460 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: you also saw that brass ring, you know, with crazy 461 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: sales of albums and stuff like it was back in 462 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: the day. So it was really kind of the world 463 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: was our oyster. And in nineteen eighty eight we had 464 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: our first rehearsals. We moved to Boston that summer and 465 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: started playing shows and we we played shows with the 466 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: Pixies and Extreme um Mission of Burma, all these all 467 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: these seminal bands. Uh. But it was a great time, man, 468 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: and we just got in our van and we earned 469 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: it for seven years. It took seven years before Delex 470 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: came out. What about better than Ezra worked that all 471 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 1: the other bands didn't. Um it's such a cliche, and 472 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: I know you can identify with this. It's perseverance, it's 473 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: it's you hear it. But the reason our band is 474 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: we're having this conversation right now, is that we just 475 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: didn't quit. Because there were other bands, honestly that were 476 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: maybe had a better stage show, they had maybe better songs. 477 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: But what separated us from them is that we just 478 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: never quit. You know, our business is a business of 479 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: knows as as you as you know and uh, and 480 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: all you need is one yes in this business and 481 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: then it opens all those doors. And we just never quit. 482 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: I always just had my high on the prize. So 483 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: it took. We toured for seven years in our beat 484 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: up eighty eight DoD dram vand all throughout the Southeast, 485 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: playing every college bar from Tuscaloosa to Athens to Old 486 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Miss Oxford, you know, and we just kept going. And finally, 487 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, things shifted and grunge was starting to fade, 488 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: and commercial alternative was starting to happen, and suddenly the 489 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: band the labels passed on better than Ezra. Suddenly we 490 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: were the hot band that march at south By Southwest 491 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: down in Austin, and the rest is rock and roll history. 492 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play nineteen ninety five. This is a song 493 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: and just went twenty five years. That's crazy at number one. 494 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: Here is good. So when you're in a room, are 495 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: you going all right? Let's make a song that no 496 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: one will know the lyrics to it. All we sing 497 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: it and everybody sings it wrong for twenty five years. 498 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: But the funny thing is man. So we we had 499 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: a show coming up. You remember this band called Boy 500 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: Dog Pondering. They were an Austin band that had minimal 501 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: college success back in like the early nineties. We had 502 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: a show opening for them, and I wanted to get 503 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: some more songs together, some more originals, because we were 504 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 1: still playing like half covers and half originals. And so 505 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: I sat down and I was like, I want to 506 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: write a song like the Pixies meets Rim with the 507 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: same four chords happening over and over again. And so 508 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: I started writing good and then the key to a 509 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: nineties song, which you had to add the seventh you 510 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: had to at the end of the chord progression, you 511 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: had to add a major seventh chord. In this instance, 512 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: it's a C seventh, which gives it the rock and 513 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: roll screaming trees found, you know, and and the whole 514 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: hook of the song, the watam that was supposed to 515 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: be lyrics, but the show happened. The show happened, and 516 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: I had no lyrics. So I got up to day 517 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: to just just wing it and went ahha, and people 518 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: loved it. I mean, the response from people with that 519 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: one song compared to the rest of all the songs 520 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: was so palpable, indifferent. We knew we had lightning in 521 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: a bottle, and so I was like, I'm not going 522 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: to screw with this. This has got some kind of thing. 523 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: And then if you listen to other songs I've written afterwards, 524 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: there's always some kind of non lyrical or something like that. 525 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: Because it was a it was definitely an epiphany for me. 526 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: What's it like being a you know, a guy that's 527 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of college, a sophomore at LSU. You're 528 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: grinding it out, and you start, after so much hard work, 529 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: you start to get some of that that national exposure 530 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 1: in the rocket starts to take off. Like are you 531 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: able to kind of differentiate the difference in the hard, 532 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: crazy work and the cool things you're getting to do 533 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: or does it just still feel like you're in the 534 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: same rotating cycle of playing shows. Um, when you're in it, 535 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: you don't really have the perspective that I do now, 536 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: like seeing that how things were going off, I was 537 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: still you know, I worked with a lot of young 538 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: artists and bands now, and a lot of them have 539 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: a singular focus that I'm doing music, this is my future. 540 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: But I was always I always had uncertainty, you know. 541 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: I always wanted the safety net. So I was going 542 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: to go to I was gonna while while the band 543 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: was while we're playing sold off shows all throughout the 544 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: South and going up to play Sister Rose with Uncle 545 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: Tupelo and which was the band before h wilco Um. 546 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: I was. I was filling out my law school applications, 547 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: so I was going to go to law school if 548 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: music didn't work out, and I was like, I'll be 549 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: an agent out in LA and so I was always 550 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: kind of torn um. But but when you're in the 551 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: when you're in the midst of it, you don't really 552 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: know how special it is and the crazy things that 553 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: are happening. But man, you know, those were such great 554 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: times and innocent times. You're kind of a like a 555 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: kind of like a pirate, you know, in a touring band. 556 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's you have no place to sleep, you 557 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, halfway through your shows you're always like, hey, 558 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: anybody got anybody got a place? Versus crash that's a 559 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: whole separate podcast. That's a whole separate podcast. The places 560 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: we found ourselves, the band houses, I mean, you needed 561 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: a technis shot when you leave these places. Yeah. The 562 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: other day I was listening to a radio station. They 563 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: were like, hey, classic rock, and then good came on right, 564 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: so here you go, Well, how do you feel about 565 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: better than as would be a plan on classic rock? 566 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm thankful, man, Yeah, you know, and somebody was somebody 567 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: sent me a Spotify oldies playlists and it was it 568 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: was Us and Nirvana and Fate No More. It was crazy. 569 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: But you know, man, you know, it's so hard to 570 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: have a a career with any longevity, man, and I'm 571 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: so grateful to still be doing it and the things 572 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: that I love, you know, from from second grade, you know. 573 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: So it's all good. Before I come unintended, Yeah, before 574 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: I get through some of the songs that that that 575 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: I loved and tell a personal story from back when 576 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: I was like nineteen. Um, you guys put out in 577 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: your eyes. Um, which is the first new music in 578 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: two years. It's Peter Gabriel cover I want to play 579 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: Let's Let's play better than Ezra's version. Here we go, Kevin, 580 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: why did you choose this song to do? Man? I've 581 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: got such a connection with that song. It was my 582 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: first serious love in college that this was my song 583 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: that when I listened to it, I saw us together 584 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: and when Lloyd Gobbler hoisted that boom box over his 585 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: head and say anything, that was me, you know, And 586 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: so it speaks to me in in memories, but also 587 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: the lyrics, in the vibe, in the emotion is really 588 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: relevant today for people feeling disconnected because of COVID and 589 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: where we are. And it's just a hopeful song. It's 590 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: spiritual in a way without being you know, too on 591 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: the nose, and it just felt it felt right on. 592 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: And also I liked Weezer's very faithful cover of Africa, 593 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I'm gonna go full on 594 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: within your eyes. I'm not going to do a sensitive, 595 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: pensive singer songwriter cover. We're gonna go full out. And 596 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: that's Aaron Sterling on drums, who's John Mayer's drummer, Kristin Rodgers, 597 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: who's one of the best singers in Nashville doing the BBS. 598 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: So we went for it. You know, back in the nineties, 599 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: your first TV performance, I gotta imagine because there weren't 600 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: ten thousand places to play there, you know, there wasn't 601 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: all this content you could just do. How cool is that? 602 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: And do you remember your first TV performance in the nineties? 603 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: The first TV show, like legit was the Job Steward Show. Wow, huh, yeah, 604 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: there was. It was before the Daily Show. John Stewart 605 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: had this hipster uber hipster uh late night talk show, 606 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: and then of course I think the next one we 607 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: did was Conan. Then we did Leno a lot, Leno 608 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 1: dug Us. The weird thing though, is Leno would always 609 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: come into your dressing room and he was always wearing 610 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: a denim shirt unbuttoned two its belly button, and it 611 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: was always uncomfortable because my eyes it was like it 612 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: was it struggled. Do I look at him in the 613 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: eyes or do I look at it a stomach? Did 614 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: you guys ever play Letterman? We did do Letterman. We 615 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: did Letterman twice. And what most people would tell you, 616 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: and I can uh validate this, is that he was 617 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: like a meat locker in there, like fifty two degrees. 618 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: Did you do it? Did you ever do it? No? 619 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: I didn't do. I went He's my hero, like my 620 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: life heroes are Letterman and Howard Stern and so I 621 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: never I went to the show and got to watch it, 622 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: and it was I was freezing my ball off just 623 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: being in there. Oh yeah, it's and to imagine you 624 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: know when you do when you do these shows, you're nervous, right, 625 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: so when you combine nervousness and sub zero temperatures, your 626 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: you know, your your hands don't really work, so I 627 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: performing there was always a challenge for me, you know 628 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: me growing up in Arkansas, you know, Central and South Arkansas. 629 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: I always felt like you guys were pretty local because 630 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: you were always proud of your Louisiana roots, and you 631 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: guys were touring through my my area a lot, which 632 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: is one of the reasons that you became one of 633 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: my favorite bands. First of all, I was nineties country, 634 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: nineties alternative kid both you know, to my core. And 635 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: did you feel like and I started thinking back as 636 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: to why I felt like maybe you guys were very 637 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: close to me personally. Did you feel like, I know, 638 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: there was these punk roots, your alternative roots, but did 639 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: you feel like there was any country influence in what 640 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: you guys were doing? Man? You know it first, it's 641 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: kind of a two part. So you grew were you 642 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: in Little Rock? I was, I mean near Little Rock 643 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: on and off my whole life, right, So did you 644 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 1: ever see us at Sister Rose? I saw you there 645 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: and once my favorite better than Ezra story When I 646 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: was nineteen years old, I saw you guys in Fayette, 647 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: Arkansas and it was a small club and I was like, Wow, 648 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: this is crazy. I was right up near the stage, 649 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: and at the end of the show, you said, does 650 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: anybody know this time of year? And you were like, 651 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: somebody could come up and you would let them play 652 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: it on guitar, And so I raised my hand and 653 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: I got up on stage. The thing is, the thing 654 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: is I'm left handed and can't play a right handed guitar. No, 655 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm left handed, so I still 656 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: sang the song as someone else played the guitar. So 657 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 1: I sang on stage at your show when I was 658 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: nineteen years old. Dude. I love that story, and it's 659 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: such a great thing that people come up to me 660 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 1: now and say, Dude, I've played on stage with you 661 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia or Seattle. And truth he told we got that. 662 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: We got that trick from YouTube because I saw them 663 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: in eighty eight at the Pete Merevich Assembly Center in 664 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: the LSU and during stand by Me their cover, they 665 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: always got somebody up to come play guitar, and I 666 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: was like, that's awesome, but wait to get to finish 667 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: your to your question. Um. Country music, you know that 668 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: was always in my house, but it was old school, 669 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 1: like Charlie Pride, George Straight, Willie Nelson who else Waylon Jennings, 670 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: That's what my dad listened to. So I think there's 671 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: I always loved the narrative aspect of country music, you know, 672 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: the stories that told and stuff, and I like to 673 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: think that's always been in my songs, with songs like 674 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: Lifetime and Our Last Night and stuff like that. So 675 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,479 Speaker 1: good is nineteen ninety five. In the Blood nineteen ninety 676 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: five as well, this is deluxe play a little bit 677 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: in the Blood, Rosalie. Let's play a little bit Rosalie. Here? 678 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: What has he done? So listen? All these songs just 679 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: taken me to a place right. Well, then here we go. 680 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: It's nineteen ninety seven, desperately wanting hits, and I'm like, 681 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: they changed my life again with this song. This was 682 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: it felt like to me, it felt like it was 683 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: where a band like Stabbing Westward got their their groove. 684 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: Like I feel like this song kind of personify what 685 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: other bands were going for there, because it felt like 686 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: a bit of a bit of a change for you 687 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: guys talk about that period it was. It's such a cliche. 688 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: Now a band had success on the first album and 689 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: the first thing they say about their next album is, well, 690 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: this one's a little harder than the earlier stuff. You know, 691 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: it's a little a little rough, more rough, rough edge. 692 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: And we were that the same way. You know, I 693 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: think we were listening to heavier music. Um we didn't 694 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: and we didn't want to seem to pop. And you 695 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: can hear that in the Friction Baby album. We did 696 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: that record at Daniel anoass studio down in New Orleans, 697 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: right in the French quarters called Kingsway Studio, I mean 698 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: Pearl Jam, New two Rim did seminal albums down there 699 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: in this amazing haunted studio, and so Friction Baby and 700 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: Desperately Wanting was born out of that. And Desperately Wanting. 701 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: The interesting thing about Desperately Wanting is the original chorus 702 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: is now the is the bridge of that song. And 703 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: I realized and it was a key change, and I 704 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is a terrible song. So so 705 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: let's make that the bridge and let me write a 706 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: better chorus. And I remember exactly where I was some 707 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: of my best songs. I remember where I was when 708 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: I wrote it. And I was sitting on my couch 709 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: in my bedroom in the gardener Suprene, New Orleans, on 710 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: this rainy sunday, and I was like, well, maybe if 711 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: I speed up the delivery of the lyrics on this chorus, 712 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: it'll make it feel different. Because all all all my 713 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: favorite songs that I've written are the same chords, you know, verse, chorus, 714 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, And that's that's always the hallmark to me 715 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: of a great song. You don't have to do any 716 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: big transitions, just with a switch and melody, the song 717 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: feels like it lips and falls and the way it's 718 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,439 Speaker 1: supposed to. And that's what Desperately Wanting was. And I'm 719 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: so glad you dig that song. And let me say something, dude, 720 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of what you do, all the work 721 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: you do, and so to have you say you're a 722 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: fan of that music and that it's the biggest prop 723 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: anybody can give your music is that it reminds them 724 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: of a time in their life. You know, it's a 725 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: soundtrack to a certain point in their life. Because I'm 726 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 1: the same way. So it's very cool that you feel 727 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: that way. Yeah. Again, while I was nineteen, I played 728 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: with them, and then a few years ago, you guys 729 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 1: at my show, you came and played in the two songs. 730 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, we played good, and we played 731 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: Desperately wanting and it was a highlight of my night 732 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: and I got to play with everybody. Keithrowing came up 733 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: and played. But being able to play those two songs 734 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: because again, it just takes you back to a certain 735 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: place or a a certain I love it songs or sounds 736 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: or video games that you remember exactly where you were 737 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: and what your goals and your dreams were. And you, guys, 738 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: and you were a big part of that for me 739 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: early on. So so it's been real cool to talk 740 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: with you about that. I do want to mention this too, though, 741 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: that do it. These are other songs that Kevin's written 742 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: with four other artists. Here's Howie Day Collide Somehow find 743 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,800 Speaker 1: was that the first cut that you got that was 744 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: big from somebody that wasn't you? You know, this is 745 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: a great story. The first cover I ever had, our 746 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 1: first co write I ever had was with Meat Love, 747 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: which is crazy. Yeah. Two thousand and one, I was 748 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: recording an album at at Conway Studios in Los Angeles, 749 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 1: this amazing free studio complex in the heart of LA 750 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: and Jane's Addiction sang about it, and Jane says, um anyhow, 751 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: but justin timber Lake was in one studio better than 752 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: as it was in the middle studio, and mister meat 753 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 1: Loaf was in the next one and long story. I 754 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 1: wrote this song with him called Testify, which is a 755 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: seven minute long opus about a truck driver on speed 756 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: who his truck breaks down and he stumbles into a 757 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: tent side revival. You should listen to it if you want. 758 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 1: If you want to see an exercise and bad taste, 759 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: google our YouTube meat Loaf Testify Sydney Opera House and 760 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: it's a spectacle that you want to take a shower, 761 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: but but but then but anyways, the guy that managed 762 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: meat Loaf also managed Blondie and the BG, so I 763 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 1: wrote a single for Blondie. I wrote a song with 764 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: Barry Gibb that was terrible and never got released, but 765 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,280 Speaker 1: that opened my eyes to co writing. And then suddenly 766 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: other younger artists like Howe were coming to me and 767 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: and Uh wanted me to write with because they were influenced. 768 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: So that kind of started me. But Meatlow started the 769 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: cover writing that's funny. Sugarland stuck like Glue wrote this 770 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:15,320 Speaker 1: one too, Beat again, Beat again, and then James Blunt, 771 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: I'll be your man. There is another one. I have 772 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: a Are you still writing three or four times a week? 773 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: What's the deal now, Kevin? Oh yeah, oh yeah, man, 774 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm writing with different bands. I've just just written some 775 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: songs with the Strut and the band called the record Company. 776 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: Got some cool stuff coming out with them, and uh, 777 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: three to five times a week. Well hope everybody checks out. 778 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 1: In your eyes the new one from Better than Azrae's 779 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: a Peter Gabriel cover, but such a good version. I 780 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: still live on Deluxe. There's probably once every couple of 781 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: months I go back and just take the whole thing in. 782 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 1: I find now. Even though my job is to at 783 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 1: times find new music, what it makes me feel most 784 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 1: comfortable as I get older now is just going to 785 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: the music that I loved as a kid. So it's 786 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: better than Ezra John your accounting crows? Isn't it funny? 787 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 1: Like like when you you have sons in your house? 788 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: I do? Okay? What is your Sunday morning? What is 789 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 1: your go to artists? Radio? Um, I'll play acoustic nineties. 790 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: Oh that's good as mine mine is. I'll do you 791 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 1: remember that? Van Travis? Oh yeah, why does it always 792 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 1: rain on me? Seeing? Yeah? Do me? So? Do Travis 793 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: Radio Cure Radio is great, but my go to might 794 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: be Van Mortson Radio for that sultry, romantic Sunday morning. 795 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: Next time I need to be sultry and or romantic, 796 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna check it out and think of Kevin's will 797 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,439 Speaker 1: I always do. At Kevin M. Griffin on Instagram at 798 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 1: we are better than Ezra on Instagram. Congratulations twenty five 799 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: years ago. Man. Just to be able to last and 800 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: to be able to talk about it, it's got to 801 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: be really cool. I appreciate the time, and as always 802 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm a massive fan. I can't wait to see in 803 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 1: Roll Life again. Dude, right back at Bobby. All right 804 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: there he my Kevin. Cheers. H