WEBVTT - Coat Check | Bo Kimble 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:03.640 This podcast is part of the seventy Sixers podcast network 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:18.120 search seventy Sixers podcast wherever you get your PODSOOTOO. Who 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:31.000 Welcome in to Coach Check, the official podcast of the 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:36.440 Delaware Bluecoats, the NBA G League affiliate of Philadelphia seventy Sixers. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:41.279 Coat Check is presented by land Rover Wilmington. Stop by 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:46.639 their location at forty three ten Kirkwood Highway in Wilmington, Delaware, 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.560 or visit land Rover Wilmington dot com for more information. 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.640 I'm Matt Murphy back with another episode of coat Check 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:59.760 right here on the seventy Sixers Podcast Network or on 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:04.320 your Coach Check in the Delaware Bluecoats feed as well. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.720 It's the same drill that we've been doing for a 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:14.399 few episodes, with Bluecoats Ambassador of Basketball Joe Richmond bringing 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:19.160 a whole lot of extra energy to the show as 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.360 we chat with a special guest, and it is Bo 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:28.720 Kimball this time around, a Philadelphia native, a college basketball star, 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:34.039 and an NBA teammate of who else but new seventy 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:38.039 six Ers head coach Doc Rivers. Let's get to it. 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:43.360 We are pleased to be joined by a Philadelphia basketball Staple, 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:47.640 a former NBA player who starred at Loyola Marrimount University 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:51.600 in LA prior to that, Bo Kimball Bo, thanks for 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.640 joining us, my pleasure. Thank you guys so much for 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.240 having me. So let's have some music. It's a fair 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:02.000 fit at all that man, you got that, Joe, here 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.600 we go, so let's take the people back right away. 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.720 How long have you two known each other? Starting with you, Joe, 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.560 you can give us some insight there, Oh your Bold Man, 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.359 Thanks for coming on to the day, man, and always 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.760 good to have you. Matt Man. I don't know if 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.160 both remembers, but I first remember him at a playground 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:24.000 called Ridge Ridgeway Playground in South Philly, thirteenth and Broader 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:28.480 right off from Broader Fitzwater and him and the team 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:30.720 he was playing when he came down there, man, and 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.919 we did not never see nothing like that. Like Bow 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.519 was like stepp befoot step man. He was on a 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.720 foot across half court. He was let it go and 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.520 just kind of followed his career from high school. And 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:46.040 but for me it was amazing because he was that dude. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.280 Wasn't those social media back then? So you heard from 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:52.079 guys if Bold was just one of those names along 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.839 with another magical name as you can all. Well though 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.280 your connection with Joe goes back that fall are, Yeah, 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.239 it does, and we and we were blessed to reconnect 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.560 to a mutual friend who was doing a camp where 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:12.320 my son was actually participating, Ethan Kimball, and so I 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.840 went from watching my son play to talking to the 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:20.760 kids before the workout started. The AAU workout with Sam 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.680 Ryns and uh and then me and Joe reconnected. So 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.080 it was great to see Joe. I've been blessed the 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.760 last thirty years, been doing a lot of community work, 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.480 you know, giving back to the community. That's how I 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:35.320 was raised. And it was great reconnected with Joe, and 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.760 so I'm looking forward to doing some stuff with him 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.320 and the Blue Coats and the Sixers and their very 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.480 their future. Well, it's great to have you on the show. 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.440 Let's give a quick rundown before we get into it 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.840 for our viewers on YouTube or our listeners on the 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.800 seventy Sixers podcast network. We were going to talk about 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.360 some of your seventy Sixers connections and then we'll get 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.920 into Philadelphia basketball as a whole and that entire scene 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:06.680 before transitioning into Bow's journey and playing career a little bit, 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.200 and then at the buzzer some final few fun questions. 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:14.200 Again at the buzzer, but let's start with the Philadelphia 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.680 seventy six Ers, with the Bluecoats being the G League 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:20.120 affiliate with the Sixers. For those who don't know, it's 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.560 it's current right now as we record this in early October. 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.040 What is your connection to the new seventy sixers head 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:31.360 coach Doc Rivers? Well, first of all, I was part 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.400 of a three way trade. I played three years with 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.279 Doc Rivers, two years with the Clippers, and we got 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.640 traded together from the Clippers to the Knicks in nineteen 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:43.160 ninety three and shared a shared a I think it 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.599 was Christmas, our Thanksgiving with his family. So Doc is 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.359 not only a great coach and all the things that 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.560 he's done in his young coaching career, but he's even 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:56.719 a better person. So I'm extremely extremely excited. You know 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.640 what Doc can bring to our team to really help 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.160 our younger players developed. We really have a very unique 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.120 and talented team. And I love the way that with 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.039 Doc did with the with the Clippers. You know, he 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.160 had a lot of ball movement, bodies and the ball moving. 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.320 He had a really a great team, um and I 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.680 think that with his expertise, he'll be able to bring 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.160 that kind of ball movement to allow Ben Simmons to 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.840 get in the lane more allowed b to pretty much 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.839 stay on that box. But more importantly, Doc will hold 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.320 the players accountable and that's more important than anything else 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.600 to put the players in the best situation to succeed. 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.800 And being a former player, I think God played at 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.039 least seventeen years in the league. He knows the game 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:41.919 inside and out and be able to pull out the 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.800 best in all of our sixer players. Yeah, I want 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.200 to say, like, you've been with a man and your 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:52.240 career is just amazing. Man. And he really from Philly, 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.920 played at Dobbins, played for the legendary Yank and uh, 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:59.240 you know, did your thing and who would have thought 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.120 the way life kind of rolls around, you would reconnect 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.880 with Doc playing with him back and when those days 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.160 when you got drafted and played it with the Clippers 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.080 and now he's our head coach of our hot health 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:15.040 team the seventies sixs and you're talking about all these 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.560 different things that he does in the perfect world, what 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:22.000 does that look like a boot Kimble they say, like, yo, 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:26.800 my bach like and also you do so many of 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.880 these interviews like do you see yourself on the other 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:31.760 side of this too? So in the perfect world, what 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.320 does that look like for boot Kimble Man, Well, first 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.120 of all, I want to be one of the millions 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.599 of people to welcome Doc Rivers to the city of 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:42.760 brotherly Love. And so this is a huge, huge sports town. 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.039 And as you know how our fans are and all 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.520 the different sports, you know, they support our they love 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.640 hard and so. But you know, being grown up here 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.360 in Philadelphia, the Sixers have always been my favorite team. 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:56.960 Even though I've been out on the West Coast in 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.840 LA for thirty five years, everything is Philly. First. What 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.120 I'm excited about in the perfect world is I've been 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:04.719 trying to reach out to Doc and I'm trying to 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:08.560 track me down right here right because i know that 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.360 I'm gonna if possible one joined his coaching staff, rather's 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.880 player development, any any way he could see fit that 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.440 I can help just work with the guys on and 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.280 off the court. You know, growing up as a young 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.200 player in the NBA, there's a lot of stuff that's 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.040 on the court, off the school, how to deal with 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.640 all of those different stressors and how to put yourself 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:32.600 in the best situation to succeed. So rather player development 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.120 on his coaching staff, hopefully doing some of the Sixers 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.440 announcement stuff I've been I have a degree in communication, 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.000 and as you can see, this is what I do 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.840 this pretty well. So I'm just excited that he's he's 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.600 gonna be with the Sixers. I'm excited for this new 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.440 chapter in our life. And I hope some way, somehow, 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:54.120 and I don't mind begging. I'm trying to be this 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.680 to the championship and anything I can do to help, 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:06.680 I'm on board. Well, from from interview to a job. Hey, 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.320 Doc's my man, And like I said, I have a 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.600 lot of great respect for Doc on and off the court. 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:14.200 I know he's going to make our team better. We 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.680 got the right tools right now to go deep into 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.880 the playoffs, and I know the Doc would do the 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.920 necessary stuff if we need some trades to strengthen the team. 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:24.960 Doc is going to do whatever it needs to be 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.200 done to get us closer to that championship ring. And 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.800 damn it, you know I'm a diehard. I want our 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.040 six Is to win a championship man. Anything I can 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.040 do to help, I'm on board. I love it and 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.160 it's great to have someone with a connection, a personal 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.520 connection to the new head coach join us. The timing 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:47.520 of this couldn't be better. Let's navigate towards Philadelphia Basketball 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.480 a little bit as a whole. I've seen you mentioned 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:55.000 in interviews before the quote unquote Philly brand of basketball 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.800 that contributed to some of your success as a player, 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.360 or most of your success as a player. What does 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:05.079 that Philly brand of basketball mean to you? Philadelphia Basketball 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.720 and one of the announcers and they referred to Jimmy 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.040 Butler in the playoff when he scored forty against the Lakers. 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:16.360 He said, Jimmy Butler was playing bullyball. Well, North phillyball. 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.959 Is that really super physical style of play. I was 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:22.959 the kind of player that I had a finesse game, 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.880 but I also had a power game, meaning that I 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.839 had no problem taking on shot, dunking on shad, getting 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:32.200 into the rem you know, drawing the foul, being knocked around. 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.560 That's what a Philly inner city urban ball is all about. 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.880 Perfect example would be Hank Gathers get his first shots 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.640 blocked to get playing against Shaquille O'Neill and Stanley Robberts 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.960 to seven footers, Hank gets his first seven shots, block 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:49.800 walk off the court with forty eight points and eighteen rebounds, 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.080 and every NBA team was there to watch him play. 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.400 So that's phillyball. It doesn't matter what your accolades are. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.840 When this ball go up, we're gonna kick your butt. 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.440 And for me, with the kind of work ethic that 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.439 I had, and as well as Hay, a lot of 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.559 the stuff is mental because when you put the work 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.600 in and you and coming up from feeling the way 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.920 I came up, I played against so many older, better, 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.360 faster players. So once I got among players that was 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.120 my own age, they didn't know it, but I being 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.400 before the ball went up, because I knew that if 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.560 I can hold my own when I was from ten 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.079 to eighteen, hold my own against grown men ten to 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.560 fifteen years older than me, stronger than me, better than me, 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.400 faster than me, what do you think I'm going to 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.760 do to you? And that's just how the mentality add 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.679 that I had. But again that's all through my journey 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.200 of coming up at what are your playground? Coming through 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.280 the Sunny Hill League in order to be the best, 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.800 you gotta play the best. And in Philadelphia basketball, we 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.280 had growing up the best players you could ever imagine 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.679 going up against. And that was part of our journey. 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.400 And man, I just want to say, bo you you 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.040 kind of wrapped it up in such a beautiful way. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:58.880 So I just want to add, you look at the 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.640 bubble and you see we're in some challenging times. But 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.000 you know, they had a playoff pool and our sixes 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.679 was in that playoffs. But outside of our six has 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.080 been in the playoffs. We had some Philly guys in 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.320 the playoffs too. And you know it's something that's still 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:16.360 playing right now for the Lakers as a PA guy 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.960 still playing over there on the heat and Derek Jones, um, 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:25.120 you know you guys like you Flip Murray, Lionel Simmons, M. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.040 I can go on and on that laid the foundation, 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:33.479 the late great Um Lewis Lloyd, that laid the foundation 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.720 from them Philly type of guys. How does that pride 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.800 come to you when you see a Kyle Lowry guy 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.040 here but NBA championship that one of our old the 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.240 Marquis Twins is about to get a championship if they 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.520 make it through the night. How does that make you 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.640 feel to see most of our guys now in the playoffs, 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.600 playing in playoff type basketball, How does that make you feel? 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.240 Set in that foundation and seeing this now, Yeah, I 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.239 was very happy to see Kyroll Lowry get a championship 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.240 with to To. That was nice to see. Now. That was, 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.520 of course after our sixers loss. But that was hard 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.680 to stomach at shot that uh, that went off the 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.760 top of the backboard. But the point is, you know, 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.440 he being a Philly guy, you root for other Philly guys. 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.200 It was brought to my attention that when Hank Etherson 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.839 I went to on the West coast of Loyal to 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.760 Merrimont and had so much success at USC and Loyal 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.679 to Merrimont scoring you know, thirty a game and our 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.440 team scoring one hundred and twenty five a game and 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.520 breaking all those records. We started a trend of some 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.320 of the best players starting to say, hey, you know 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.040 what Bowen, Hank went you know out of state for success. 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.560 They people started to migrate out of the town. Lionel 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.600 Simmons was a perfect example, and as well as Doug Overton, 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.920 guys that did stay local, great players, Doug had a 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:51.000 twelve thirteen year NBA career and Lionel Played had a 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:54.160 great career. So Philadelphia ball, if you can, if you 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.679 can withstand the growing up in Philly ball, you can 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.679 take your game anywhere in the world on the greatest thing, 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.640 and you do not have to worry about compromising your 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.320 game on the court or any situation that you have 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.640 to deal with off the court. But I'm very happy 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.960 for all the success of the guys that have stronger 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.719 Enbent careers than I did. But again, you know, I'm 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.120 very blessed that I was able to have the kind 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.800 of success in college where I was able to average 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:21.640 thirty five points a game and have the records that 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:25.200 I have today. All right, perfect segue, because you just 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.760 talked about your college career. Let's talk about your journey 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.679 bow and your playing career. And you mentioned him by 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:36.800 name two times. Hank Gathers is always part of your story, 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.280 and this past year was thirty years later. I know 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.480 you talk about him a lot, and when you do 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:46.560 these interviews around whether it's March Madness time or whenever 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.400 it might be, and you're remembering Hank each and every year, 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.360 what story or some of the stories do you enjoy 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:58.840 telling the most? Well, you know, it's impossible to be 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.400 close to Hank Gathers regular a teammate, a relative, or 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:06.760 you know, close associate. Hank just had just an extraordinary 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.200 presence and he was always, believe it or not, the 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.880 center of attention. So I think of Hank multiple times 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.760 every day. But it's it's always happy thoughts and um 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.600 and I have so many stories. One the best basketball 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.080 story I enjoy telling is the one I told earlier 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.160 planning against Shaquille O'Neill. You know that he scored forty 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:27.000 eight points and eighteen rebounds. To my knowledge, I believe. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.720 I don't think anyone else has ever done that against 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:32.400 shot well, Hank Gathers did at six six sixty seven. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.000 And then other than that, Hank was actually a comedian 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:39.000 off the court. So every if you admire comedians and 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:43.040 you love David Chappelle, Hank Gathers was David. Every time 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.880 I see David Chappelle, any joke, his delivery, and everything, 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.360 I see Hank Gathers. So but there's always happy thoughts, 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.880 and I celebrate his life. I don't think of how 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.200 he died. I think of how he lived and and 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.520 all the records that we broke, and we both made 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.400 Hank Gathers and myself, we made each other better. I 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.520 only wanted the leading nation in scoring. After Hank did, 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.800 I'm like, we'll hold on. Now, I'm a better score 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.280 than Hank. He's on the cover of every magazine about 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.000 to go pro early and he inspired me to want 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:12.720 a lead the nation in scoring. And I told Doug 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.720 Overt and I said, well, you know what, next year, 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.880 I'm a leading nation in scoring. I set my mind 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:18.840 to it and I did it, which is still a 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.040 record today. So I'm just very proud of the association. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.880 Another question people ask, hey, Bo, you know, are you 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.920 bothered with being always affiliated and associated with Hank Gathers. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:34.520 Absolutely not. Hank Gathers, who he was on and off 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.560 the court as being a great guy person I loved 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.480 and respected and to be affiliated with him. And also 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.160 I already had my own identity. I was going to be. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.240 I was the number one scorer in the world no 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:47.160 matter what that year, and I was going I was 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.040 going to be a lottery pick no matter what, whether 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.880 Hank was alive or not. So I had my own identity. 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.200 But I'm very proud to be associated with Hanking. I'm 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.040 very proud of the records that we both was able 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:00.000 to acquition. There's more on the way, but first, Christianity 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:04.480 Care as doctors, nurses and caregivers, and as neighbors and friends. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.800 Christianaicare is a partner in everyone's journey to greater health 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.040 and well being. Why do they do it for the 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:17.000 love of health? Visit christianaicare dot org for you personally 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:22.120 in your career at any level. I mean, Joe has 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.240 told me there wasn't a league in Philly that you 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.640 didn't play in, so it could be any level before 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:30.160 college or after college. Who are some of the best 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.840 players that you've played with or against? And I think 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.320 obviously Hank would be in that group, but who are 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.960 some of the others one of the guys that what 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.520 are your playgrounds? Where I gained on my skills? And 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.280 I was playing eleven hours a day at twenty seventh 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.000 and Clearfield, that's one block away from my house. So 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.880 Lee roy Choice was and George Melton was the best 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:53.640 two players in my immediate neighborhood. Lee roy Choice was 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.000 like a black version of Larry Burry. Wasn't going to 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.960 jump high but he's going to give you thirty forty 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.200 every night, and he's want to just outwit you. I'll 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.800 smart you. One of the other guys that I stowed 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.840 a lot of his moves and made them was Lewis Lloyd, 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.320 the late Lewis Lloyd. Now I told Lewis when I 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.359 saw him a couple of years All Star Week, and 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.040 I said, you know, Lewis, I gotta tell you, man, 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.280 I stored about three of your moves, and I stored 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.199 I made a kazillion. I made a living off of 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.440 those moves. He had a nice slow motion move coming 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.400 across the paint. He had he would go sport full 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.440 speed and then slow up, allow you to file him 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.119 and and one you all day. So so, but it 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.800 was those kind of players that you see and you emilate, 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.600 and of course we can't. I can't leave out Doctor 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:38.280 j who was hands down deep number one role model 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:41.000 you could have a dream of growing up in Philadelphia. 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.119 And when I met Doc and he was so humble. 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:47.080 So I asked him about I was about fourteen and 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.160 we was in a tuxedo place. I asked him as 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:53.160 many nervous questions about twenty in a five or ten 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:57.200 minutes span and Doc answered every question, never made me 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.439 feel like I was a nuisance to him. And it 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.040 was just Doctor J and me and in the in 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.320 the Tuctedo place. And when he showed up at Loyola 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.600 because all the visiting teams practiced at Loyola Marymont when 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.320 they played the Lakers and the Clippers, and he remembered 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.520 meeting me that day. He said, Hey, your name is 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:17.080 Boot And that was good enough. Man. All the people 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.840 that Doc know that he remembered talking to this fourteen 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.440 year old from Philly, and that just made my day. 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.280 And I always vowed that if I wasn't a sociable 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.359 player and I became an NBA player, I was going 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.960 to give kids the same experience that Doctor J gave me. 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.480 I just happened to be a talkative and sociable person, 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.280 so I didn't have to work that hard at that. 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.879 But but again, growing up in Philadelphia was a lot 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.639 of players that I emulated my game after. But Lewis 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.400 Lloyd and Lee Roy Chores was high on that list. Joe, 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.760 I know you're big on that. The level of competition 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.880 that he just touched on, man, And the biggest thing 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.680 is he talked about some leagues, and I want you 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.119 to just touch on because you talk about the Sunny 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.520 Hill League and man, and for us that was our Rutgers, 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:06.680 that was our everything. And also, you know you can't 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.440 talk Philly basketball. We'll talk about sixteen from Susque hand 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.359 at thirty third and Diamond Honeyton Park. This nade some 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.280 of those those memories you have or playing against some 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:18.159 of those top guys in those playgrounds. Man, yeah, you 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:23.480 had Rico Washington, d n Blackwell, ye had um Mike 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:27.919 Anderson Roman. I mean we're talking about guys and I 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.360 mentioned Lewis Lawyer. Were you talking about guys that when 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.040 they stepped on the court, you're not going to stop them. 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:37.200 You might, but we're talking about really inner city rivalries. 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:39.919 Lionel Simmons was part of that. So it was just 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.680 it was just such a It was quite different now, 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:44.359 you know, now people are not playing as much as 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.760 they played then. Back then we would leave Dobbins practice 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:50.520 and go straight to play in one or two other leagues. 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.080 But the Sunny Hill Ley was extraordinary, not only playing 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:58.960 against the best people all throughout the state locally, but 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.800 we were also on the Sunny Hill traveling team going 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:05.000 to Virginia, New York DC plan up against the top guys. 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.080 So you not only had a chance to measure yourself 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:11.160 in Philadelphia in the Belmont League, thirty third Street, now 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:15.120 sixteen Pacessful Hannah was something that was out of control. 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:19.360 I mean, like I remember one summer, Hank was plan 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.119 in the Summer League and I'm and Hank's catching Ali 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.680 you from half court, hanging on the rim. This is 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:28.040 only Siemen and Hank to give a darn about high 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:31.520 heat land. But it was just the Philadelphia brand of basketball. 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:35.320 And but sixteen Pacessful Hannah, thirty third and diamond Wood, 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.520 your playground, particularly for me, was where I got my 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:42.560 skill set and the rest is history. Yes, stand up, baby, 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:47.600 Yes indeed. So time for a quick message from the Moor's. 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:52.720 The Moore's Sports Medicine believes that highly personalized one on 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.960 one physical therapy for young athletes is paramounts to a 0:20:56.080 --> 0:21:00.320 speedy and complete recovery. Learn more at the Moor's dot 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:04.439 org slash PT. Before we get to our final couple 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:08.000 questions at the Buzzer, which is usually just some random 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:11.680 questions that we want to get in you guys, scored 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:16.320 enough points in college that we've got to go there first. Obviously, 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:21.400 more specifically Paul Westhead, the coach coming from the NBA, 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:25.760 the running gun, up tempo style. I mean, we could 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:28.560 talk about a variety of different games, but one hundred 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:31.080 and forty nine points in a win, an upset win 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:33.880 over Michigan is a big one. It's a record setting game. 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:38.080 What do you remember about that offense and some of 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:41.080 those games where you guys like that Michigan game put 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.920 up so many points. Well, the best part about our system, 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:49.600 the loyal Merimi running gun system, is that we never 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:51.840 had to adjust our game for anybody. It didn't matter 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:54.160