Speaker 1: This podcast is part of the seventy Sixers podcast network
Speaker 1: search seventy Sixers podcast wherever you get your PODSOOTOO. Who
Speaker 1: Welcome in to Coach Check, the official podcast of the
Speaker 1: Delaware Bluecoats, the NBA G League affiliate of Philadelphia seventy Sixers.
Speaker 1: Coat Check is presented by land Rover Wilmington. Stop by
Speaker 1: their location at forty three ten Kirkwood Highway in Wilmington, Delaware,
Speaker 1: or visit land Rover Wilmington dot com for more information.
Speaker 1: I'm Matt Murphy back with another episode of coat Check
Speaker 1: right here on the seventy Sixers Podcast Network or on
Speaker 1: your Coach Check in the Delaware Bluecoats feed as well.
Speaker 1: It's the same drill that we've been doing for a
Speaker 1: few episodes, with Bluecoats Ambassador of Basketball Joe Richmond bringing
Speaker 1: a whole lot of extra energy to the show as
Speaker 1: we chat with a special guest, and it is Bo
Speaker 1: Kimball this time around, a Philadelphia native, a college basketball star,
Speaker 1: and an NBA teammate of who else but new seventy
Speaker 1: six Ers head coach Doc Rivers. Let's get to it.
Speaker 1: We are pleased to be joined by a Philadelphia basketball Staple,
Speaker 1: a former NBA player who starred at Loyola Marrimount University
Speaker 1: in LA prior to that, Bo Kimball Bo, thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us, my pleasure. Thank you guys so much for
Speaker 1: having me. So let's have some music. It's a fair
Speaker 1: fit at all that man, you got that, Joe, here
Speaker 1: we go, so let's take the people back right away.
Speaker 1: How long have you two known each other? Starting with you, Joe,
Speaker 1: you can give us some insight there, Oh your Bold Man,
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on to the day, man, and always
Speaker 1: good to have you. Matt Man. I don't know if
Speaker 1: both remembers, but I first remember him at a playground
Speaker 1: called Ridge Ridgeway Playground in South Philly, thirteenth and Broader
Speaker 1: right off from Broader Fitzwater and him and the team
Speaker 1: he was playing when he came down there, man, and
Speaker 1: we did not never see nothing like that. Like Bow
Speaker 1: was like stepp befoot step man. He was on a
Speaker 1: foot across half court. He was let it go and
Speaker 1: just kind of followed his career from high school. And
Speaker 1: but for me it was amazing because he was that dude.
Speaker 1: Wasn't those social media back then? So you heard from
Speaker 1: guys if Bold was just one of those names along
Speaker 1: with another magical name as you can all. Well though
Speaker 1: your connection with Joe goes back that fall are, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does, and we and we were blessed to reconnect
Speaker 1: to a mutual friend who was doing a camp where
Speaker 1: my son was actually participating, Ethan Kimball, and so I
Speaker 1: went from watching my son play to talking to the
Speaker 1: kids before the workout started. The AAU workout with Sam
Speaker 1: Ryns and uh and then me and Joe reconnected. So
Speaker 1: it was great to see Joe. I've been blessed the
Speaker 1: last thirty years, been doing a lot of community work,
Speaker 1: you know, giving back to the community. That's how I
Speaker 1: was raised. And it was great reconnected with Joe, and
Speaker 1: so I'm looking forward to doing some stuff with him
Speaker 1: and the Blue Coats and the Sixers and their very
Speaker 1: their future. Well, it's great to have you on the show.
Speaker 1: Let's give a quick rundown before we get into it
Speaker 1: for our viewers on YouTube or our listeners on the
Speaker 1: seventy Sixers podcast network. We were going to talk about
Speaker 1: some of your seventy Sixers connections and then we'll get
Speaker 1: into Philadelphia basketball as a whole and that entire scene
Speaker 1: before transitioning into Bow's journey and playing career a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then at the buzzer some final few fun questions.
Speaker 1: Again at the buzzer, but let's start with the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: seventy six Ers, with the Bluecoats being the G League
Speaker 1: affiliate with the Sixers. For those who don't know, it's
Speaker 1: it's current right now as we record this in early October.
Speaker 1: What is your connection to the new seventy sixers head
Speaker 1: coach Doc Rivers? Well, first of all, I was part
Speaker 1: of a three way trade. I played three years with
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers, two years with the Clippers, and we got
Speaker 1: traded together from the Clippers to the Knicks in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety three and shared a shared a I think it
Speaker 1: was Christmas, our Thanksgiving with his family. So Doc is
Speaker 1: not only a great coach and all the things that
Speaker 1: he's done in his young coaching career, but he's even
Speaker 1: a better person. So I'm extremely extremely excited. You know
Speaker 1: what Doc can bring to our team to really help
Speaker 1: our younger players developed. We really have a very unique
Speaker 1: and talented team. And I love the way that with
Speaker 1: Doc did with the with the Clippers. You know, he
Speaker 1: had a lot of ball movement, bodies and the ball moving.
Speaker 1: He had a really a great team, um and I
Speaker 1: think that with his expertise, he'll be able to bring
Speaker 1: that kind of ball movement to allow Ben Simmons to
Speaker 1: get in the lane more allowed b to pretty much
Speaker 1: stay on that box. But more importantly, Doc will hold
Speaker 1: the players accountable and that's more important than anything else
Speaker 1: to put the players in the best situation to succeed.
Speaker 1: And being a former player, I think God played at
Speaker 1: least seventeen years in the league. He knows the game
Speaker 1: inside and out and be able to pull out the
Speaker 1: best in all of our sixer players. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to say, like, you've been with a man and your
Speaker 1: career is just amazing. Man. And he really from Philly,
Speaker 1: played at Dobbins, played for the legendary Yank and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, did your thing and who would have thought
Speaker 1: the way life kind of rolls around, you would reconnect
Speaker 1: with Doc playing with him back and when those days
Speaker 1: when you got drafted and played it with the Clippers
Speaker 1: and now he's our head coach of our hot health
Speaker 1: team the seventies sixs and you're talking about all these
Speaker 1: different things that he does in the perfect world, what
Speaker 1: does that look like a boot Kimble they say, like, yo,
Speaker 1: my bach like and also you do so many of
Speaker 1: these interviews like do you see yourself on the other
Speaker 1: side of this too? So in the perfect world, what
Speaker 1: does that look like for boot Kimble Man, Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, I want to be one of the millions
Speaker 1: of people to welcome Doc Rivers to the city of
Speaker 1: brotherly Love. And so this is a huge, huge sports town.
Speaker 1: And as you know how our fans are and all
Speaker 1: the different sports, you know, they support our they love
Speaker 1: hard and so. But you know, being grown up here
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, the Sixers have always been my favorite team.
Speaker 1: Even though I've been out on the West Coast in
Speaker 1: LA for thirty five years, everything is Philly. First. What
Speaker 1: I'm excited about in the perfect world is I've been
Speaker 1: trying to reach out to Doc and I'm trying to
Speaker 1: track me down right here right because i know that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna if possible one joined his coaching staff, rather's
Speaker 1: player development, any any way he could see fit that
Speaker 1: I can help just work with the guys on and
Speaker 1: off the court. You know, growing up as a young
Speaker 1: player in the NBA, there's a lot of stuff that's
Speaker 1: on the court, off the school, how to deal with
Speaker 1: all of those different stressors and how to put yourself
Speaker 1: in the best situation to succeed. So rather player development
Speaker 1: on his coaching staff, hopefully doing some of the Sixers
Speaker 1: announcement stuff I've been I have a degree in communication,
Speaker 1: and as you can see, this is what I do
Speaker 1: this pretty well. So I'm just excited that he's he's
Speaker 1: gonna be with the Sixers. I'm excited for this new
Speaker 1: chapter in our life. And I hope some way, somehow,
Speaker 1: and I don't mind begging. I'm trying to be this
Speaker 1: to the championship and anything I can do to help,
Speaker 1: I'm on board. Well, from from interview to a job. Hey,
Speaker 1: Doc's my man, And like I said, I have a
Speaker 1: lot of great respect for Doc on and off the court.
Speaker 1: I know he's going to make our team better. We
Speaker 1: got the right tools right now to go deep into
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and I know the Doc would do the
Speaker 1: necessary stuff if we need some trades to strengthen the team.
Speaker 1: Doc is going to do whatever it needs to be
Speaker 1: done to get us closer to that championship ring. And
Speaker 1: damn it, you know I'm a diehard. I want our
Speaker 1: six Is to win a championship man. Anything I can
Speaker 1: do to help, I'm on board. I love it and
Speaker 1: it's great to have someone with a connection, a personal
Speaker 1: connection to the new head coach join us. The timing
Speaker 1: of this couldn't be better. Let's navigate towards Philadelphia Basketball
Speaker 1: a little bit as a whole. I've seen you mentioned
Speaker 1: in interviews before the quote unquote Philly brand of basketball
Speaker 1: that contributed to some of your success as a player,
Speaker 1: or most of your success as a player. What does
Speaker 1: that Philly brand of basketball mean to you? Philadelphia Basketball
Speaker 1: and one of the announcers and they referred to Jimmy
Speaker 1: Butler in the playoff when he scored forty against the Lakers.
Speaker 1: He said, Jimmy Butler was playing bullyball. Well, North phillyball.
Speaker 1: Is that really super physical style of play. I was
Speaker 1: the kind of player that I had a finesse game,
Speaker 1: but I also had a power game, meaning that I
Speaker 1: had no problem taking on shot, dunking on shad, getting
Speaker 1: into the rem you know, drawing the foul, being knocked around.
Speaker 1: That's what a Philly inner city urban ball is all about.
Speaker 1: Perfect example would be Hank Gathers get his first shots
Speaker 1: blocked to get playing against Shaquille O'Neill and Stanley Robberts
Speaker 1: to seven footers, Hank gets his first seven shots, block
Speaker 1: walk off the court with forty eight points and eighteen rebounds,
Speaker 1: and every NBA team was there to watch him play.
Speaker 1: So that's phillyball. It doesn't matter what your accolades are.
Speaker 1: When this ball go up, we're gonna kick your butt.
Speaker 1: And for me, with the kind of work ethic that
Speaker 1: I had, and as well as Hay, a lot of
Speaker 1: the stuff is mental because when you put the work
Speaker 1: in and you and coming up from feeling the way
Speaker 1: I came up, I played against so many older, better,
Speaker 1: faster players. So once I got among players that was
Speaker 1: my own age, they didn't know it, but I being
Speaker 1: before the ball went up, because I knew that if
Speaker 1: I can hold my own when I was from ten
Speaker 1: to eighteen, hold my own against grown men ten to
Speaker 1: fifteen years older than me, stronger than me, better than me,
Speaker 1: faster than me, what do you think I'm going to
Speaker 1: do to you? And that's just how the mentality add
Speaker 1: that I had. But again that's all through my journey
Speaker 1: of coming up at what are your playground? Coming through
Speaker 1: the Sunny Hill League in order to be the best,
Speaker 1: you gotta play the best. And in Philadelphia basketball, we
Speaker 1: had growing up the best players you could ever imagine
Speaker 1: going up against. And that was part of our journey.
Speaker 1: And man, I just want to say, bo you you
Speaker 1: kind of wrapped it up in such a beautiful way.
Speaker 1: So I just want to add, you look at the
Speaker 1: bubble and you see we're in some challenging times. But
Speaker 1: you know, they had a playoff pool and our sixes
Speaker 1: was in that playoffs. But outside of our six has
Speaker 1: been in the playoffs. We had some Philly guys in
Speaker 1: the playoffs too. And you know it's something that's still
Speaker 1: playing right now for the Lakers as a PA guy
Speaker 1: still playing over there on the heat and Derek Jones, um,
Speaker 1: you know you guys like you Flip Murray, Lionel Simmons, M.
Speaker 1: I can go on and on that laid the foundation,
Speaker 1: the late great Um Lewis Lloyd, that laid the foundation
Speaker 1: from them Philly type of guys. How does that pride
Speaker 1: come to you when you see a Kyle Lowry guy
Speaker 1: here but NBA championship that one of our old the
Speaker 1: Marquis Twins is about to get a championship if they
Speaker 1: make it through the night. How does that make you
Speaker 1: feel to see most of our guys now in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: playing in playoff type basketball, How does that make you feel?
Speaker 1: Set in that foundation and seeing this now, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was very happy to see Kyroll Lowry get a championship
Speaker 1: with to To. That was nice to see. Now. That was,
Speaker 1: of course after our sixers loss. But that was hard
Speaker 1: to stomach at shot that uh, that went off the
Speaker 1: top of the backboard. But the point is, you know,
Speaker 1: he being a Philly guy, you root for other Philly guys.
Speaker 1: It was brought to my attention that when Hank Etherson
Speaker 1: I went to on the West coast of Loyal to
Speaker 1: Merrimont and had so much success at USC and Loyal
Speaker 1: to Merrimont scoring you know, thirty a game and our
Speaker 1: team scoring one hundred and twenty five a game and
Speaker 1: breaking all those records. We started a trend of some
Speaker 1: of the best players starting to say, hey, you know
Speaker 1: what Bowen, Hank went you know out of state for success.
Speaker 1: They people started to migrate out of the town. Lionel
Speaker 1: Simmons was a perfect example, and as well as Doug Overton,
Speaker 1: guys that did stay local, great players, Doug had a
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen year NBA career and Lionel Played had a
Speaker 1: great career. So Philadelphia ball, if you can, if you
Speaker 1: can withstand the growing up in Philly ball, you can
Speaker 1: take your game anywhere in the world on the greatest thing,
Speaker 1: and you do not have to worry about compromising your
Speaker 1: game on the court or any situation that you have
Speaker 1: to deal with off the court. But I'm very happy
Speaker 1: for all the success of the guys that have stronger
Speaker 1: Enbent careers than I did. But again, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: very blessed that I was able to have the kind
Speaker 1: of success in college where I was able to average
Speaker 1: thirty five points a game and have the records that
Speaker 1: I have today. All right, perfect segue, because you just
Speaker 1: talked about your college career. Let's talk about your journey
Speaker 1: bow and your playing career. And you mentioned him by
Speaker 1: name two times. Hank Gathers is always part of your story,
Speaker 1: and this past year was thirty years later. I know
Speaker 1: you talk about him a lot, and when you do
Speaker 1: these interviews around whether it's March Madness time or whenever
Speaker 1: it might be, and you're remembering Hank each and every year,
Speaker 1: what story or some of the stories do you enjoy
Speaker 1: telling the most? Well, you know, it's impossible to be
Speaker 1: close to Hank Gathers regular a teammate, a relative, or
Speaker 1: you know, close associate. Hank just had just an extraordinary
Speaker 1: presence and he was always, believe it or not, the
Speaker 1: center of attention. So I think of Hank multiple times
Speaker 1: every day. But it's it's always happy thoughts and um
Speaker 1: and I have so many stories. One the best basketball
Speaker 1: story I enjoy telling is the one I told earlier
Speaker 1: planning against Shaquille O'Neill. You know that he scored forty
Speaker 1: eight points and eighteen rebounds. To my knowledge, I believe.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone else has ever done that against
Speaker 1: shot well, Hank Gathers did at six six sixty seven.
Speaker 1: And then other than that, Hank was actually a comedian
Speaker 1: off the court. So every if you admire comedians and
Speaker 1: you love David Chappelle, Hank Gathers was David. Every time
Speaker 1: I see David Chappelle, any joke, his delivery, and everything,
Speaker 1: I see Hank Gathers. So but there's always happy thoughts,
Speaker 1: and I celebrate his life. I don't think of how
Speaker 1: he died. I think of how he lived and and
Speaker 1: all the records that we broke, and we both made
Speaker 1: Hank Gathers and myself, we made each other better. I
Speaker 1: only wanted the leading nation in scoring. After Hank did,
Speaker 1: I'm like, we'll hold on. Now, I'm a better score
Speaker 1: than Hank. He's on the cover of every magazine about
Speaker 1: to go pro early and he inspired me to want
Speaker 1: a lead the nation in scoring. And I told Doug
Speaker 1: Overt and I said, well, you know what, next year,
Speaker 1: I'm a leading nation in scoring. I set my mind
Speaker 1: to it and I did it, which is still a
Speaker 1: record today. So I'm just very proud of the association.
Speaker 1: Another question people ask, hey, Bo, you know, are you
Speaker 1: bothered with being always affiliated and associated with Hank Gathers.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Hank Gathers, who he was on and off
Speaker 1: the court as being a great guy person I loved
Speaker 1: and respected and to be affiliated with him. And also
Speaker 1: I already had my own identity. I was going to be.
Speaker 1: I was the number one scorer in the world no
Speaker 1: matter what that year, and I was going I was
Speaker 1: going to be a lottery pick no matter what, whether
Speaker 1: Hank was alive or not. So I had my own identity.
Speaker 1: But I'm very proud to be associated with Hanking. I'm
Speaker 1: very proud of the records that we both was able
Speaker 1: to acquition. There's more on the way, but first, Christianity
Speaker 1: Care as doctors, nurses and caregivers, and as neighbors and friends.
Speaker 1: Christianaicare is a partner in everyone's journey to greater health
Speaker 1: and well being. Why do they do it for the
Speaker 1: love of health? Visit christianaicare dot org for you personally
Speaker 1: in your career at any level. I mean, Joe has
Speaker 1: told me there wasn't a league in Philly that you
Speaker 1: didn't play in, so it could be any level before
Speaker 1: college or after college. Who are some of the best
Speaker 1: players that you've played with or against? And I think
Speaker 1: obviously Hank would be in that group, but who are
Speaker 1: some of the others one of the guys that what
Speaker 1: are your playgrounds? Where I gained on my skills? And
Speaker 1: I was playing eleven hours a day at twenty seventh
Speaker 1: and Clearfield, that's one block away from my house. So
Speaker 1: Lee roy Choice was and George Melton was the best
Speaker 1: two players in my immediate neighborhood. Lee roy Choice was
Speaker 1: like a black version of Larry Burry. Wasn't going to
Speaker 1: jump high but he's going to give you thirty forty
Speaker 1: every night, and he's want to just outwit you. I'll
Speaker 1: smart you. One of the other guys that I stowed
Speaker 1: a lot of his moves and made them was Lewis Lloyd,
Speaker 1: the late Lewis Lloyd. Now I told Lewis when I
Speaker 1: saw him a couple of years All Star Week, and
Speaker 1: I said, you know, Lewis, I gotta tell you, man,
Speaker 1: I stored about three of your moves, and I stored
Speaker 1: I made a kazillion. I made a living off of
Speaker 1: those moves. He had a nice slow motion move coming
Speaker 1: across the paint. He had he would go sport full
Speaker 1: speed and then slow up, allow you to file him
Speaker 1: and and one you all day. So so, but it
Speaker 1: was those kind of players that you see and you emilate,
Speaker 1: and of course we can't. I can't leave out Doctor
Speaker 1: j who was hands down deep number one role model
Speaker 1: you could have a dream of growing up in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: And when I met Doc and he was so humble.
Speaker 1: So I asked him about I was about fourteen and
Speaker 1: we was in a tuxedo place. I asked him as
Speaker 1: many nervous questions about twenty in a five or ten
Speaker 1: minutes span and Doc answered every question, never made me
Speaker 1: feel like I was a nuisance to him. And it
Speaker 1: was just Doctor J and me and in the in
Speaker 1: the Tuctedo place. And when he showed up at Loyola
Speaker 1: because all the visiting teams practiced at Loyola Marymont when
Speaker 1: they played the Lakers and the Clippers, and he remembered
Speaker 1: meeting me that day. He said, Hey, your name is
Speaker 1: Boot And that was good enough. Man. All the people
Speaker 1: that Doc know that he remembered talking to this fourteen
Speaker 1: year old from Philly, and that just made my day.
Speaker 1: And I always vowed that if I wasn't a sociable
Speaker 1: player and I became an NBA player, I was going
Speaker 1: to give kids the same experience that Doctor J gave me.
Speaker 1: I just happened to be a talkative and sociable person,
Speaker 1: so I didn't have to work that hard at that.
Speaker 1: But but again, growing up in Philadelphia was a lot
Speaker 1: of players that I emulated my game after. But Lewis
Speaker 1: Lloyd and Lee Roy Chores was high on that list. Joe,
Speaker 1: I know you're big on that. The level of competition
Speaker 1: that he just touched on, man, And the biggest thing
Speaker 1: is he talked about some leagues, and I want you
Speaker 1: to just touch on because you talk about the Sunny
Speaker 1: Hill League and man, and for us that was our Rutgers,
Speaker 1: that was our everything. And also, you know you can't
Speaker 1: talk Philly basketball. We'll talk about sixteen from Susque hand
Speaker 1: at thirty third and Diamond Honeyton Park. This nade some
Speaker 1: of those those memories you have or playing against some
Speaker 1: of those top guys in those playgrounds. Man, yeah, you
Speaker 1: had Rico Washington, d n Blackwell, ye had um Mike
Speaker 1: Anderson Roman. I mean we're talking about guys and I
Speaker 1: mentioned Lewis Lawyer. Were you talking about guys that when
Speaker 1: they stepped on the court, you're not going to stop them.
Speaker 1: You might, but we're talking about really inner city rivalries.
Speaker 1: Lionel Simmons was part of that. So it was just
Speaker 1: it was just such a It was quite different now,
Speaker 1: you know, now people are not playing as much as
Speaker 1: they played then. Back then we would leave Dobbins practice
Speaker 1: and go straight to play in one or two other leagues.
Speaker 1: But the Sunny Hill Ley was extraordinary, not only playing
Speaker 1: against the best people all throughout the state locally, but
Speaker 1: we were also on the Sunny Hill traveling team going
Speaker 1: to Virginia, New York DC plan up against the top guys.
Speaker 1: So you not only had a chance to measure yourself
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia in the Belmont League, thirty third Street, now
Speaker 1: sixteen Pacessful Hannah was something that was out of control.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I remember one summer, Hank was plan
Speaker 1: in the Summer League and I'm and Hank's catching Ali
Speaker 1: you from half court, hanging on the rim. This is
Speaker 1: only Siemen and Hank to give a darn about high
Speaker 1: heat land. But it was just the Philadelphia brand of basketball.
Speaker 1: And but sixteen Pacessful Hannah, thirty third and diamond Wood,
Speaker 1: your playground, particularly for me, was where I got my
Speaker 1: skill set and the rest is history. Yes, stand up, baby,
Speaker 1: Yes indeed. So time for a quick message from the Moor's.
Speaker 1: The Moore's Sports Medicine believes that highly personalized one on
Speaker 1: one physical therapy for young athletes is paramounts to a
Speaker 1: speedy and complete recovery. Learn more at the Moor's dot
Speaker 1: org slash PT. Before we get to our final couple
Speaker 1: questions at the Buzzer, which is usually just some random
Speaker 1: questions that we want to get in you guys, scored
Speaker 1: enough points in college that we've got to go there first. Obviously,
Speaker 1: more specifically Paul Westhead, the coach coming from the NBA,
Speaker 1: the running gun, up tempo style. I mean, we could
Speaker 1: talk about a variety of different games, but one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty nine points in a win, an upset win
Speaker 1: over Michigan is a big one. It's a record setting game.
Speaker 1: What do you remember about that offense and some of
Speaker 1: those games where you guys like that Michigan game put
Speaker 1: up so many points. Well, the best part about our system,
Speaker 1: the loyal Merimi running gun system, is that we never
Speaker 1: had to adjust our game for anybody. It didn't matter
Speaker 1: if you were top ten, ten, top twenty, didn't matter.
Speaker 1: We knew that you couldn't stop what we were doing
Speaker 1: and we never had to adjust it. So we're going
Speaker 1: to shoot the bar every four seconds, and I did
Speaker 1: say every four to five is because we're going to
Speaker 1: shoot that ball, and you're gonna know that we're gonna
Speaker 1: be shooting at every four seconds. When we missed, you
Speaker 1: gotta Hank Gathers coming down to paint, getting up all
Speaker 1: the loose change and all the offensive rebounds against smaller
Speaker 1: guards because he's beating his guys down. And then to
Speaker 1: top that off, whether we make the basket or miss,
Speaker 1: we're gonna full court track you the entire forty minutes
Speaker 1: and good luck with your trying to, you know, to
Speaker 1: get good luck with trying to solve that press because
Speaker 1: your coach can't draw it where you're going to be,
Speaker 1: because we don't even know where we're gonna be. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be everywhere. So it was just a beautiful system
Speaker 1: that allowed guys like Hank Gatherers and myself to flourish.
Speaker 1: And we had really great team role players that was
Speaker 1: able to, you know, to kind of fill in understand
Speaker 1: what we were doing, and we all part of the
Speaker 1: system is also running the lane on offense for the
Speaker 1: other guy. You're not running it because you think you're
Speaker 1: gonna get the wide open shot or the wide open layup.
Speaker 1: You're running it forty other guy. And it just was
Speaker 1: just a unique system for Hank gatherers game and my game.
Speaker 1: And I was very blessed, like I said, with that
Speaker 1: you at west Hairs offense, and west Head was from Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: and you matched at the Hank and ice skills. Said
Speaker 1: Hank Gatherer was able to get the ball, get the
Speaker 1: offensive rebound, and go coast to coast if he wanted to.
Speaker 1: He had that skill set and the green light from
Speaker 1: west Hare to do it. Paul west Head made a
Speaker 1: crystal clear to me, if you are ever open inside
Speaker 1: the hash mark and you don't shoot that three pointer,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a seat right next to me. So
Speaker 1: he made that crystal clear. And just imagine dreaming for
Speaker 1: any player like a Hank Gatherers style game in my
Speaker 1: game that a coach tell you every single time you
Speaker 1: touched the ball bombs away. So I couldn't dream of
Speaker 1: a better experience playing for Paul west Head and again
Speaker 1: for everybody else. That's why we had the highest top
Speaker 1: six games in history. I have the high his NCA
Speaker 1: postseason average of thirty seven point nine a game, which
Speaker 1: is number one. And I still there's nobody on the
Speaker 1: face of the earth can sady average thirty five points
Speaker 1: in college anywhere in the world. And that's the record
Speaker 1: of them that those are records that I'm proud of.
Speaker 1: Our team has about twenty records. Hank Gallas have about
Speaker 1: thirty as well, so which is probably be part of
Speaker 1: history and represent Philadelphia and bringing full circle. I'm blessed
Speaker 1: to be back home and giving back to my community,
Speaker 1: right And Joe, I want to leave space for you
Speaker 1: to jump in quickly on some of the stuff that
Speaker 1: Bow just mentioned about that Loyal and Merimount, that LMU team.
Speaker 1: But four seconds or less, it's just insane. I've been
Speaker 1: enjoying waking the highlights and to quickly tie it into
Speaker 1: or tie it back to Doc Rivers. I read a
Speaker 1: story in the Athletic recently about how Doc told Jamal
Speaker 1: Crawford in La full on green light, just shoot it
Speaker 1: every time, So it made me think of Doc in
Speaker 1: that way. But Joe, those teams we're just so exciting
Speaker 1: to watch, and you talk about what it was that
Speaker 1: I want to say it was univer Arkansas coach Nolan
Speaker 1: Richardson with forty minutes a hell or forty but as
Speaker 1: a hell like That's that's where all that kind of
Speaker 1: come from. You know Dan Tony, you know he has
Speaker 1: the same mindset or eight seconds or less. You know
Speaker 1: Paul Paul West at that time, he wasn't innovator. He
Speaker 1: wasn't innovator on that basketball court, and he had the
Speaker 1: players to do it. But I want to just lead
Speaker 1: you with this boat. You know, we talk about a
Speaker 1: lot of basketball, a lot of great things that you've done.
Speaker 1: But you and I know we have a great relationship
Speaker 1: and a diverse reationship because you do so many things.
Speaker 1: And I was more proud the day that I brought
Speaker 1: you down to the seventy six of field House to
Speaker 1: watch the Blue Coach up close and personal and introduce
Speaker 1: you to our staff, our players, our coach and that
Speaker 1: in a beautiful facility had and some people that you know,
Speaker 1: the community, just someone like you still out here in
Speaker 1: the community with the neck and niche of the things
Speaker 1: that you bring to the table. Yeah, some of your
Speaker 1: question faded out, Joe, but it was talking about the community.
Speaker 1: But I've been blessed to watch people like Sonny, you know,
Speaker 1: give back and understanding what that's about being as a
Speaker 1: retired player, being blessed to have resources and people along
Speaker 1: the way of help me. So I my first journey
Speaker 1: coming back to Philadelphia was to help people go from
Speaker 1: home ownership, I mean from renting to home ownership. So
Speaker 1: I started the Bokemball Foundation, and through the thirty years
Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of public speaking. I've also
Speaker 1: did some coaching, trying to get break the coaching ranks
Speaker 1: and the college and in the NBA. But when it
Speaker 1: comes to giving back, you know, for the kids, I
Speaker 1: want them to have the same experience that I was
Speaker 1: blessed to have I had. I always had people encouraging
Speaker 1: me how important education was, and I thank god I
Speaker 1: woke up before it was too late, because school wasn't
Speaker 1: at the top of my mind in the beginning, but
Speaker 1: I woke upwards too late. So when I'm giving speeches
Speaker 1: a kid, I let them know that dreams come true
Speaker 1: if you can hear my voice and see my face.
Speaker 1: I'm literally every day as we speak, living my dream.
Speaker 1: And if you don't believe in yourself and you don't
Speaker 1: have positive people around you, a lot of times you
Speaker 1: think that you know, ninety percent of most of the
Speaker 1: young kids who want to be pro athletes in any
Speaker 1: sport are not going to make it. But it's that
Speaker 1: one percent if you put the work in and you
Speaker 1: stay dedicated to what your dream and what your passion is.
Speaker 1: I let them know one dreams come true, and there's
Speaker 1: only one person in the world that can stop you,
Speaker 1: and that's you. So I look at life as the
Speaker 1: game of basketball. You'll never make every shot, but you
Speaker 1: got to learn how to make more shots than you miss,
Speaker 1: which means make more quality decisions in your life than
Speaker 1: the poor ones. And you'll be blessed at what you
Speaker 1: put in is what you get out, and you'll have
Speaker 1: you'll have more of the kind of life you're trying
Speaker 1: to live. But you know, there's no better way to
Speaker 1: celebrate your life and your legacy than helping someone else
Speaker 1: fulfill theirs. And so that's one of the things that
Speaker 1: I take to heart. When it comes to giving back,
Speaker 1: I do it sincerely. But I'm just recycling all the
Speaker 1: great love that was given to me. So that's what
Speaker 1: it's really good about. That's that's real brotherly love, Brother Joe,
Speaker 1: real brotherly love. So let's call this one a buzzer beater,
Speaker 1: because I just got one more question, A quick one
Speaker 1: at the buzzer go out on a light note, A
Speaker 1: lighter note. Um. Obviously that was inspiring stuff too, so
Speaker 1: it wasn't a bad note. But let's leave you with
Speaker 1: a quick hitter, like we like to leave our guests.
Speaker 1: I see that you're into golf, So what is your
Speaker 1: favorite hobby? Is it golf? Golf? Golf and more golf,
Speaker 1: and so um, I love golf like I love the
Speaker 1: game of basketball. And so when you're putting a lot
Speaker 1: of time and it don't feel like work, but you're
Speaker 1: spot on on, man. I love the golf. I play
Speaker 1: at least two to three times a week. We'll have
Speaker 1: to get out together sometime. We'll get a group together
Speaker 1: to play. I like to play myself. We might have
Speaker 1: to teach Joe a little bit. I don't think he
Speaker 1: We went to top Golf recently and hit some of
Speaker 1: them range, and I think he needs a little bit
Speaker 1: some tips from you. What a good nobody's tied the woods,
Speaker 1: Joe and Matt, so we're all good. So get out
Speaker 1: here those trees like the rest of us. We will
Speaker 1: get out there together at some point and we'll bring
Speaker 1: Joe along. But this was a lot of great stuff
Speaker 1: on this episode, and we thank you for the time. Bo,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Matt and Joe for having me anytime. Go Sixers,
Speaker 1: Go Blue Coats. Thanks again to Bo, Kimball for joining us.
Speaker 1: For my partner Joe Richmond, I'm Matt Murphy. Until next time,
Speaker 1: Take it or leave it at the coach check