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Speaker 3: Robert Wicker, thanks for checking in with me again, Champ.

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Speaker 3: We're back again, and uh you just literally keep getting

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Speaker 3: better and keep working towards this goal. That last fight

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Speaker 3: gets Ali scaroff. I remember we sat down, Remember I

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Speaker 3: did the interview on my iPad because I didn't have

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Speaker 3: a camera, And you told me that you thought you

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Speaker 3: had figured out a way to get through this. Dude.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, he's this, this, and the other. You

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Speaker 3: beat him easier than anyone could have imagined. Like, was

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Speaker 3: that the expectation of the fight going in?

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Speaker 5: Another expectation the hope, yes, the hope, yeah. Not the expectation.

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Speaker 5: The expectation was to groind it out for twenty five minutes. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, I have wolves, that's what we trained for

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Speaker 5: and prepare for. But night like, it's just confidence in

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Speaker 5: the work that I'm putting in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you hit him with that night shot.

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Speaker 3: He went when he went real and you your eyes

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Speaker 3: got bigca.

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Speaker 1: You didn't rush though.

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Speaker 3: That's the one thing that young fighters don't get, right.

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Speaker 3: They get somebody hurt and they just go crazy. You

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Speaker 3: took your time and you found it was it was

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Speaker 3: an upper cut, right, Yeah, they got him. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: found the uppercut that got him. When you saw it hurt,

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Speaker 3: You're like, okay, take my time, let me find the shot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. The idea is hurt him and not let them recover, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and then like you'll fund your moment.

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Speaker 3: I always tell people, I said, it's not the first

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Speaker 3: one though. The first one hurts you. It's the follow

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Speaker 3: up shot that gets you, right, the one that comes after.

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Speaker 3: And it was like you hurt him, and then when

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Speaker 3: you went and you got him, I was like, oh

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Speaker 3: my god, Robert Whitaker that she was crazy. It's kind

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Speaker 3: of crazy how you managed to do it over and

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Speaker 3: over again. But you never released. You never released the

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Speaker 3: thought that you'd beat the champion. Even after drinkings, Duke

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Speaker 3: plus ce, you just right back to work. Now you're fighting.

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Speaker 3: Ham's out Jamaya of like I, me and your pops

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Speaker 3: are talking outside. He goes, he's due for an easy one.

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Speaker 3: I go, they don't get no easier once they get

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Speaker 3: no easier because they beat Jamayah.

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Speaker 1: Now you're fighting for the belt again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's uh, this is what I do. This is

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Speaker 5: what I sign up for. This is my duty to

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Speaker 5: my family, and this is how I put bread on

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Speaker 5: the table and I take that role very responsibly.

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Speaker 3: So when you look at Jamaya, right, he was going

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Speaker 3: through these dudes like crazy.

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Speaker 1: Right. He gets to.

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Speaker 3: Ushman though, and it was much more difficult because no right,

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Speaker 3: no disrespect to Lee, no disrespect to these these these

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Speaker 3: first dudes he should have beat like that on Fight Island, right,

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Speaker 3: because they're just not very good. Uh mayor Shark, he

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Speaker 3: knocked him out. I was a bit surprised when he

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Speaker 3: gets to Usman, right, world class fighter? What did you

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Speaker 3: see in him in that fight? Opposed to what you

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Speaker 5: I think you just what did I see?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 3: Things that impressed you are things that you might have

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Speaker 5: Well, I think I think the first thing is like,

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Speaker 5: you need to respect his skill level, like he's he's

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Speaker 5: pushing a game plan on a world class fighter, on

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Speaker 5: a former champion level fighter that deserves respect. Like everyone

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Speaker 5: knows he was going to wrestle, he still did it. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that deserves respect and I respect it. And that's why

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Speaker 5: I've trained my heart out for the last twenty weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Right, But also he saw that Usman on a week

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Speaker 5: to notice he started catching up.

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Speaker 5: In the third round, he started catching up.

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Speaker 1: And You've got five rounds and.

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Speaker 5: I've got five rounds and I think I'm better than Usman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bigger for sure.

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Speaker 3: Remember were still fighting at well to week middlewek.

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Speaker 5: I've had twenty weeks to prepare for this guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, had time to get ready.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So is it a matter of extending the fight though?

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Speaker 3: Is it like can you go through him earlier? Do

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Speaker 3: you have to make him fight longer? Because again, in

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Speaker 3: the first round of that fight, he was still held

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Speaker 3: on wheels for even Kamara Usman.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna come at him from the first second to

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Speaker 5: the last. I'm taking the fight to him the entire time.

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Speaker 5: That's how I win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, You've been training a lot of wrestling in preparation

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Speaker 3: for this, I saw a video of you getting after it.

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Speaker 3: How how have you enjoyed being back on that type

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Speaker 3: of grinding with type of fight you hat in front.

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Speaker 5: Of My back is sore, dude for Kiel Pennings and.

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Speaker 3: Told me that she goes, I hate wrestling. My back

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Speaker 3: and my neck are so sore from doing so much wrestling. Like,

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Speaker 3: but did you enjoy it getting.

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Speaker 1: Back to that?

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Speaker 5: You know what? I enjoy It mights me strong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels strong here.

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Speaker 5: Too, always, Yeah, like I feel strong. And then like

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Speaker 5: when you're in those date rounds, you know you're just

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Speaker 5: like I'm gonna kill you. Like, yeah, it brings something

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Speaker 1: It does it.

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Speaker 3: It makes you strong and mentally because if you can

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Speaker 3: get through that wrestling workout like that, especially consistently, you

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Speaker 3: know that you.

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Speaker 1: Can get through a fight.

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Speaker 3: Tamaiah says he does respect you, right, and he's been

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Speaker 3: saying it publicly, but he doesn't believe that even though

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Speaker 3: you're doing this, and you've done this for a real

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Speaker 3: long time to the point that you put a single

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Speaker 3: it on and when Russell actual tournaments, he just does

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Speaker 3: way is to implement that game plan on you like

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Speaker 3: to that what he say?

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Speaker 5: Who found out? Yeah all right, like this is a fight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah we'll find out. Yeah, I've done everything. If he's

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Speaker 5: that good, then I'll find out. Yeah, Like I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: find out. And I'm excited for the test. I'm excited

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Speaker 5: to put myself up against someone that believes that because

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Speaker 5: I've beaten a lot of people that think they were

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Speaker 5: better than me, you know, And yeah, like every fight,

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Speaker 5: every hardship, every trial makes me better and this is

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Speaker 3: So I believe this is me.

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Speaker 1: This is me.

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Speaker 3: I believe that if you win this weekend you should

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Speaker 3: get a Do you think that if you win this

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Speaker 3: weekend you get a title fight?

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Speaker 5: Definitely?

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Speaker 2: But why why is.

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Speaker 3: It that Sean Strickland has been determined the numb one

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Speaker 3: contender when he beat a guy that you beat and

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Speaker 3: then you went and fought two more times.

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Speaker 1: So how do you make.

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Speaker 3: The statement that you deserve the shot over him?

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I just don't really worry about it, like it's it

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Speaker 3: just to me, it doesn't seem logical.

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Speaker 5: You say, that's like a whole side of fighting that

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Speaker 5: I don't really take note off really well, not because

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Speaker 5: it's it's for one, I didn't have a lot of

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Speaker 5: control over it too. I don't want to play those

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Speaker 5: games to get It's like politics almost, it really is,

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Speaker 5: and I don't want to play it. Yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 5: gonna winning opens doors.

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Speaker 3: But again, three wins. Paulo Costa, you beat. That was

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Speaker 3: a tough fight. I'll scare up you beat. If you

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Speaker 3: beat Hams out your mind, it would seem as though

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Speaker 3: it's the logical next step. You and Drake's due. Plus

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Speaker 3: he of history. He just beat Israel at a sign

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Speaker 3: you Are you surprised, because I mean a lot of

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Speaker 3: times I'm telling you, bro, like, I finally am done

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Speaker 3: overlooking this guy. It's some of the shit he does

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Speaker 3: that makes me want to There's a picture of him

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Speaker 3: with these like daisy dude shorts on, he said, on

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Speaker 3: the back of a truck. This dude's crazy dog dracs,

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Speaker 3: but he's a good fighter. He'd beat easy, submitted, Izzy.

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Speaker 3: Were you surprised that he was able to do that? Nah?

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Speaker 5: Really well, Drink is one of those dudes I like,

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Speaker 5: I just feel like he's gonna win somehow.

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Speaker 1: He does.

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Speaker 5: If you don't get him out of there, somehow he's

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Speaker 5: gonna win. And that's the bab I got. I think

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Speaker 5: that was the best version of IS I was saying.

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Speaker 3: I thought is He looked pretty good too, He looked great.

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Speaker 5: I just think, like Drake and Snike's it awkward man,

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Speaker 5: and he just keeps coming at you.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that if you fight him again, though,

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Speaker 3: you would benefit from being in there before having a

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Speaker 3: feel Definitely, Yeah, but it times out your mind this weekend.

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Speaker 5: Definitely.

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Speaker 1: How do you see the fight going.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna look to hunt him to twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking to take your head off far Brands to

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Speaker 5: do it.