1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day. If Bloomberg 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: dot Com the radio plus Globile lapp and on your radio. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg business flash from Bloomberg World Headquarters. 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Charlie held out the down in SMP both lower, NEZ 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: SNAK is higher up four tens of one percent. We've 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: got the tenure down eleven thirty seconds. That yield one 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: point four nine percent gold up to sixty ounce. The 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: thirteen fifty five a game there are two tens of 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: one percent. Stocks of being a move to lower via 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: a route in energy producers. Crude oil plunging through forty 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: of barrel for the first time since April. Crude is 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: now down four percent at thirty nine ninety two, a 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: drop right now of a dollar sixty eight a barrel 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: on West Texas Intermediate SMP down three to one seventy 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: had dropped there of two tens of one percent. The 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: down down thirty nine points, have got there of two 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: tens of one percent. NAZ stack up nineteen a gain 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: of four tens of one percent. I'm Charlie Pellett, and 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: that's a bad business flash. This is taking stock with 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Kathleen Hayes and Pim Fox on Bloomberg Radio. The Institute 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: for Supply Management the US factory sector de'ccelerating modestly in 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: July but posting a fifth consecutive month of growth. What 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: does this all mean? Well, that's why we have Brad Holcombe. 24 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: He is the chairman of the Institute for Supply Management 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: and he joins us from Tempe, Arizona. Brad, thanks very 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: much for being with us. Tell us about new orders 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: and production. They're both growing, aren't they? Well, they are, 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: and as you mentioned, the p m I is off 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,919 Speaker 1: just over a half a point, but still pretty consistent 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: with what we've seen for the fast few months. New 31 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: orders is leading the way at fifty six point nine 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: is down a tenth of a point, still a very 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: strong number, supported by a number of our our largest industries. 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: And production is up seven intensive a point. Uh to 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: not only keep up with new orders, but it also 36 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to work into the backlog of orders, 37 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: which is down four and a half percentage points to 38 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: forty eight this month. Well, Brad, you know, bottom line, 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: as long as the Purchasing Managers Institute that you at 40 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: the Institute for Supply Management produced is above fifty, It 41 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: signals expansion. And I'm on my Bloomberg now and I'm 42 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, scrolling back and scrolling back. I mean, we 43 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: haven't been below fifty probably since the the final months 44 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: of the Great Recession. And even with the components that, 45 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's really hard to nickpicky, get nickpicky, except 46 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: maybe for you know, the employment component felt just below 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: fifty because production stayed strong, new orders eased off a bit, 48 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: but still well above fifty. Do you see any sign 49 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: of a real cooling off here? No, I really don't, 50 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, And I really appreciate your comments, because it's 51 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: hard to take issue with with the number set today. 52 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: It looks a lot like last month, quite frankly, and 53 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: as I said, the continuation of the trend for the 54 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: last five to seven months on the employment one, you know, 55 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: we expected to hang around fifty for the rest of 56 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: the year, to end up with zero employment growth between 57 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: now and the end of the year. It's just the 58 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: way the planning has gone. So there's nothing here that 59 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: surprises me this month, and it's it all feels pretty consistent, 60 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: as I said, with the trend set up this this 61 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: year earlier. Brad does this seem consistent with the most 62 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: recent GDP report of one growth. Actually, we would have 63 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, correlated and predicted higher between two and a 64 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: half percent if we average January through July, and even 65 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: three based on the July number. So the rest of 66 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: the economy sort of you know, flanged up with us, 67 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: we'd be at higher numbers. Well, this is a very 68 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: important question Pin puts on the table, because what we've 69 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: gotten that GDP report is that the U S economy, 70 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: especially after all the revisions going back to is now 71 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: growing at a one percent year over year rate. It 72 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: is steadily decelerated, even as your I S M index 73 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: has held up. Does that mean I S index is 74 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: no longer a good indicator for the broad economy or 75 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: is it simply that it's just a good indicator for 76 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: the part of the economy it makes up, which is 77 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: factories manufacturing. Well, that's particularly a good indicator of the 78 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: manufacturing sector. But also, you know, in a couple of 79 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: days we'll all see the non manufacturing report, and then 80 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: together we represent the entire GDP from our perspective, and 81 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: that is about seven professionals sitting in plants and and 82 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: service companies across the company telling us actually what it 83 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: looks like from inside the government numbers. You know, I'm 84 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: not familiar with the process the revised from time to time. 85 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: We rarely have ever do that. So this is is, 86 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: you know, his real data race based on a pretty 87 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: broad survey, Bradam money, If you could tell us what 88 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: some of the respondents have said to you, particularly if 89 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: you'd like to begin with the plastics and rubber products, 90 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: they seem to be a bit more optimistic. That's a 91 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: plastic guests, plastic and rubber products industry. One of the 92 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: comments was, seems to be a bit more optimistic in 93 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: the markets, but US presidential race might dampen the mood. 94 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: Um personally, I don't necessarily agree with that. I think 95 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: we've all factored that in. It is what it is. 96 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: It's going to be one or the other, you know, 97 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: and we'll see later on what that means. Brad. Going 98 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: back again to the g P report, almost everything was negative. Um. 99 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: Certainly any kind of construction, any kind of private investment 100 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: was down. Another reason why it's kind of interesting and 101 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: surprising maybe to see factories holding up so well, But 102 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: exports were also a small positive contributor. What which which 103 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: companies that you survey who's doing well. On the exports side, 104 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: exports is finished goods, um, so it covers you know, 105 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: as pretty broad and let me just turn to that 106 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: particular page. But again, exports is UH is finished goods, 107 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: whereas imports as raw materials. And in terms of what's uh, 108 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: what's going and growing, paper products, computer and electronic products, 109 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: fabricated metal products, food, beverage and tobacco, and transportation equipment 110 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: as well as chemical products are on that list of 111 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: growing in that category, Pratt just quickly. Commodities moving higher 112 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: in price include copper that should be good for the 113 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: industrial sector. Now well, yes, um, you know copper is 114 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: actually on both lists up in price and down and 115 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: price as indicated by different respondents. It could be a 116 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: timing issue, but generally speaking, the medals are going up 117 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: in this time frame, all right, Brad Hope, and thank 118 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: you so very much for joining us. From the Institute 119 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: for Supply Management putting on its Purchasers Purchasing Managers Index. 120 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: It's basically an index of manufacturing growing for the fifth 121 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: straight month but decelerating. This is Bloomberg coming up on 122 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: taking stock. A look at Cantel Medical corp On the 123 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: future plans for the company as a new CEO takes 124 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: over