WEBVTT - Recapping Every Superman Movie

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<v Speaker 1>Done.

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<v Speaker 2>Dundun dun du do dun dun.

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<v Speaker 1>Worry.

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<v Speaker 3>Today's episode contained spoilers for all of Superman movies. Every

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<v Speaker 3>Superman movie ever made, that's right, starting from nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 3>eight's Richard Donner Superman the Movie up through the Snyder

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<v Speaker 3>Verse to get us ready for the new Superman movie

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<v Speaker 3>by James Gunn. So be warned if you haven't seen

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<v Speaker 3>those movies, we're gonna spoiler.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Jason Conceptio and I'm Mersey Night, and

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<v Speaker 5>In today's episode, we are recapping Superman's major film appearances

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<v Speaker 5>Busted than the Speeding Bullet, every single movie from nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>seventy eight Superman.

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<v Speaker 6>To the Justice League to get us ready for the majestic,

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<v Speaker 6>hopeful hopefully blockbuster.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, James Gunns Superman.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie, what are you?

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<v Speaker 3>What's your what are your thoughts on the Superman films

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<v Speaker 3>and what's your favorite one.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Okay, I grew up watching these movies, as I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure you did as well. They were constantly on TV.

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<v Speaker 5>I have lots of good memories of them. I think that.

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<v Speaker 7>I know them all really well.

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<v Speaker 5>And I would say objectively, I think Superman one is

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<v Speaker 5>probably the best one. But because I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 5>the one that I loved was Superman three. It came

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<v Speaker 5>out five years before I was born. It had Richard

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<v Speaker 5>Pryor in it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the one that taught me about how to embezzle exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a big embezzling story.

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<v Speaker 5>I just think that for some reason, there was something

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<v Speaker 5>about like the kind of weird computer genius, like evil Tech.

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<v Speaker 5>I think for me, it just really created a kind

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<v Speaker 5>of it seemed fun. It was fun in a way

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<v Speaker 5>that I think we've spoken.

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<v Speaker 3>Recently about the cinematic history of the Black Hacker, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is kind of the first one.

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<v Speaker 7>Definitely, this is up there.

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<v Speaker 5>And also that's another reason why I was very excited

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<v Speaker 5>for Ironheart. Shak A Lay continues that, but this is

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<v Speaker 5>definitely nineteen eighty three. I think this is the first

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<v Speaker 5>one because my incredible friend James F. Wright actually has

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<v Speaker 5>a brilliant zne abouts and uh, we kind of like,

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<v Speaker 5>do you include a programmer like the guy in Tomine?

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<v Speaker 7>Do you include?

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<v Speaker 5>But this is like a true hacka hacka hacka and

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<v Speaker 5>obviously it's Richard Prya, so it's Richard Priya hacka.

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<v Speaker 1>How fun. He's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, what about you, what's your favorite?

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably gonna be Superman too, because, like you, these

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<v Speaker 3>were always on I've probably seen them a.

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<v Speaker 2>Billion million zillion times.

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<v Speaker 3>And for me, the the big superhero fights between.

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<v Speaker 1>Zod and the Versa and Non and.

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<v Speaker 3>Superman that occur like all throughout Metropolis with like trucks

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<v Speaker 3>getting thrown into buildings, it just seemed like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Most incredible thing I'd ever seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there's some wonderful twists and turns, and

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<v Speaker 3>I love Gene Hackman in these worlds like this. I

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<v Speaker 3>think this is kind of like my first introduction to

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<v Speaker 3>Gene Hackman that makes Superman movies. So, uh, I just

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<v Speaker 3>think he does He's like he's he does a character

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<v Speaker 3>unlike any he's ever done four or since, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>really fun and wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that let's go, let's still into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start with Superman nineteen seventy. It's Superman, directed by

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<v Speaker 3>Richard Donner, is a film that nobody thought would be

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<v Speaker 3>particularly anything, but Gene Hackman signed on and that got

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<v Speaker 3>the film made Christopher Reeve wonderful as Clark Kenton Superman.

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<v Speaker 3>Marlon Brando in a crazy in a from the neck

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<v Speaker 3>up only basically boom.

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<v Speaker 7>He said, he for me where I needed. Don't be

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<v Speaker 7>bothered about it's pre zoom zoom.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like probably filming in his underpads, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>we are worrying Covid.

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<v Speaker 4>And Marvel Kidder.

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<v Speaker 7>She's the lowest laying baby.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like the good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So we open on Krypton. It is a crystal world

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<v Speaker 3>and it is falling apart. It's where we're right here.

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<v Speaker 3>At the very very very end of Krypton, Jo l

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<v Speaker 3>Marlon Brando and beautiful like disco armor, discuts his baby

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<v Speaker 3>in a glowing bascinet, puts it on a space ship,

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<v Speaker 3>shoots him out into space.

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<v Speaker 2>The baby lands in.

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<v Speaker 3>A smallville out in the middle of the country, and

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<v Speaker 3>he is discovered in his little flying saucer by Mom

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<v Speaker 3>pock Kent and They're like, this kid is special because

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<v Speaker 3>he just lifted our truck like very easily, and so

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<v Speaker 3>they immediately adopt the boy Clark. As he grows, he

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<v Speaker 3>grapples with the fact that he's so different. He's got

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<v Speaker 3>these powers, he's got to keep them hidden. He like

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<v Speaker 3>secret leads them by like running faster than a speeding locomotive,

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<v Speaker 3>and then pack Kent dies, making Clark very very sad.

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<v Speaker 3>He discovers the glowing green crypton on crystal, which was

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<v Speaker 3>like hidden in the barn, and he follows.

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<v Speaker 1>The crystal to north, far far north. He takes a

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<v Speaker 1>bus I know, like I like sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. That's the kind of public transport. I

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<v Speaker 3>dream all this, like can I take public transport to

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<v Speaker 3>and talk to He like all thea into the pole

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<v Speaker 3>and walks walks, walks, walks, walks like up a glacier.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when he gets to a certain spot, he

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<v Speaker 3>throws this glow stick like out and it melts into

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<v Speaker 3>the water underneath underneath the ice, and it builds the

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<v Speaker 3>Fortress of solitude. And as it's building it, Clark has

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<v Speaker 3>like zero. It's so funny. They cut back a different actor,

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<v Speaker 3>like a younger actor than Christopher Reeve.

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<v Speaker 1>They cut back to him and.

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<v Speaker 3>He has like no reaction to this incredible thing he's watching.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>It just bubbles up out of the ocean. And then

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<v Speaker 3>here's where I'll pause and say this.

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<v Speaker 7>I was gonna say, let's stop, let's stop creepy. Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this movie, and I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Formative movie.

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<v Speaker 3>And we love, as everyone knows, practical effects. We talk

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<v Speaker 3>about how great practical love them and and it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>so wonderful when you see them balanced with good modern effects.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is a film that will make you appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>CG and what it's done for us. Because the Fortress

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<v Speaker 3>of Solitude building scene looks like complete fucking ship. It

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<v Speaker 3>looks like it's taking place like in a jacuzzi.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this movie is like extremely disco coded, Yes, extremely

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<v Speaker 5>disco code.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like there's lights under a jacuzzi and then somebody

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<v Speaker 3>underneath is like pushing these plastic like crystal things up out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the water so that they look like they build

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<v Speaker 1>a fortress of solitude.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you show this to any like Zoomer who

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<v Speaker 3>is not who is like raised on the Mandalorian, Yeah, kids,

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<v Speaker 3>who was shocked when they rewatched twenty eight Days late

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<v Speaker 3>recently and we're like, well, it looks like shit, why

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<v Speaker 3>did they film it on this DV camera raised on

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<v Speaker 3>the Mandalorian And like the Infinity saga, they will watch

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<v Speaker 3>this scene in particular and be like, what are you

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<v Speaker 3>guys serious? Like will you peasant? Like, yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 3>what you watched. What is this poverty film that you

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<v Speaker 3>were showing me at the time?

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<v Speaker 7>I look very very informative.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolute, Yes, it's not all. Not everything has aged well

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<v Speaker 5>as the fantastic performance of Christopher Eve and Margot Kidd

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<v Speaker 5>in these roles.

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<v Speaker 3>So Clerk goes in. He talks to an AI version

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<v Speaker 3>of his dad, Marlon Brando, who is like, what do

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<v Speaker 3>you want to know? And then Marlon tells him everything

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<v Speaker 3>Krypton and the powers and why he picked Earth and

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<v Speaker 3>the Yellow Sun and all YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>He puts on the suit. It just kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>he just kind of has it on and then flies

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time and he becomes Superman. He goes

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<v Speaker 3>to Metropolis where he gets a job at the Daily

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<v Speaker 3>Planet as a cub reporter, and he immediately falls in

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<v Speaker 3>love with Ace reporter Lois Lane an Ark and this

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<v Speaker 3>is where you're like Man Christopher Reeve.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>The way he is able to like be Clark and

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<v Speaker 3>be Superman and make that two distinctive characters just with

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<v Speaker 3>his the way he kind of hunches or straightens his

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<v Speaker 3>body is incredible. Yea, he is very bumbling, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in the presence of Lois. But then when she has

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<v Speaker 3>a helicopter accident up on the roof of the planet,

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<v Speaker 3>he springs into action saves her life with the iconic line.

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<v Speaker 1>Delivered by Margot Kidder.

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<v Speaker 3>After Superman says I got you catch catches her she's falling.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes, oh no. He says, I've got you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't worry, I've got you, and she says, who's got you?

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<v Speaker 3>And so he becomes an immediate sensation, starts doing like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, saving dogs and trees and doing things around

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<v Speaker 3>Intropolis and Daily Planet.

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<v Speaker 1>At her, Perry White is like, I want, I want

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<v Speaker 1>everything you could give me a Superman. Does he sleep?

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<v Speaker 3>How much does he sleep? What does he even for breakfast?

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<v Speaker 3>Who does he love?

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<v Speaker 7>How often does he go to the bathroom?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like he just wants everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile, Lex Luthor, Evil real estate villain, Time Ahead of

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<v Speaker 3>its time living in a beautiful, palatial subterranean layer. He

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<v Speaker 3>has an evil plan to nuke California off the map

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<v Speaker 3>so that his land in Nevada becomes high priced beachfront property.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's incredible, ridiculous plane. I don't it's a great

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<v Speaker 3>plan that's not a Superman kind of foils an early

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<v Speaker 3>part of the plan, causing Lex to be like, I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta get this guy out of the way. So he

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<v Speaker 3>uses like a high frequency tone to draw Superman to

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<v Speaker 3>his subterranean layer, where in deleted scenes that actually should

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<v Speaker 3>have been in the movie, we watched his Lex like

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<v Speaker 3>fires machine guns at.

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<v Speaker 7>Him, and you see all the things that don't that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't work, flamethrowers.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe they cut that scene out of the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>But Superman gets in and he confronts Lex, and Lex

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<v Speaker 3>is like, well, I look at this stand on this

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<v Speaker 3>map of California, and I'm going to show you this

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<v Speaker 3>whole plan that I'm doing, and guess what, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>stop me because of this, and he pulls out kryptonite

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<v Speaker 3>that he had He discovered kryptonite would affect Superman in

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<v Speaker 3>this way, and he had he'd found a chunk of

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<v Speaker 3>it and he put it on a necklace, and he

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<v Speaker 3>pulls it out and puts it around super Kryptonite necklace

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<v Speaker 3>and Superman gets very very weak, and then he pushed

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<v Speaker 3>Superman into his underground swimming pool and Superman begins to

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<v Speaker 3>sink to the bottom of the pool and drop. But

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<v Speaker 3>because while this is going on, lexis hijacked to other missiles.

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<v Speaker 3>They're being launched and one of them is headed to Hackensack,

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<v Speaker 3>New Jersey, where miss Hesmacher, Lexi's assistant. Yes, very important

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<v Speaker 3>character who is in the new James Gun movie and

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<v Speaker 3>has been throughout the history of Lutha has been his

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<v Speaker 3>girlfriend slash assistant, but who always seems to land on

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<v Speaker 3>the side of good, and that is established ya. She's

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<v Speaker 3>got a soft spot for Superman, who is very handsome.

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<v Speaker 3>So when she finds out that one of the missiles

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<v Speaker 3>is going to New Jersey and the other one, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>is going to the San Andrea's Fault, she surprisingly dives

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<v Speaker 3>into the pool, pulls the necklace off Superman and saves him,

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<v Speaker 3>and while he's very very weak, kisses him a little.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on the line. It's it's on the line.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he's adults like he's not in a good stake,

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<v Speaker 3>but like he let die.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, she's excited.

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<v Speaker 3>She's very excited area and she says, just promise me,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll save my mom first. So Superman flies off. He

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<v Speaker 3>saves uh the New Jersey missile. First, he throws it

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<v Speaker 3>into space. It blows up.

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<v Speaker 5>It's fine, He's always throwing something into space. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be more thoughtful about that. Space is not just like

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<v Speaker 5>a different ecosystem that's never gonna interact with, like not

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<v Speaker 5>just your dumping grab eel musk.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Superman, come on.

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<v Speaker 3>He then flies to the San Andreas target and missile,

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<v Speaker 3>but he can't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't get there in.

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<v Speaker 3>Time, and it triggered. It blows up, it starts triggering

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<v Speaker 3>the Lex earthquake, and the earthquake is like killing lots

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<v Speaker 3>of people, and Lois is falling into a crevice that

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<v Speaker 3>was created by the earthquake and she's gonna die. And Superman,

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<v Speaker 3>seeing all this, and what's he gonna do, he decides

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<v Speaker 3>to fly in the reverse direction of the Earth's orbit,

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<v Speaker 3>thus causing the Earth to spin backwards for a little while,

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<v Speaker 3>turning back time to give himself enough time to throw

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<v Speaker 3>the missile out into space and everyone is saved, including

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<v Speaker 3>Lois Lane. Now before we move on to Superman too,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of questions about this. Yes, is does

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<v Speaker 3>is time only reversed around Earth or is it that

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<v Speaker 3>why around the entire Solar system?

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<v Speaker 5>Also how the people are, Like how did that affect

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<v Speaker 5>people on Earth?

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<v Speaker 7>Because I feel like physically, if.

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<v Speaker 5>You're going so fast that you time back time, you're

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<v Speaker 5>probably also going to like impact some living humans. But

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<v Speaker 5>it's a classic moment, yeah, and also an establishing moment

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<v Speaker 5>of how powerful Superman.

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<v Speaker 3>Is if if he's doing it by spinning the Earth

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<v Speaker 3>back the other way, wouldn't there be a moment as

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<v Speaker 3>the Earth is kind of slowing in, you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>its forward direction, and about it we all just.

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<v Speaker 7>Like, yeah that we all.

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<v Speaker 1>Just sty.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, I want to say something that this movie establishes,

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<v Speaker 3>aside from the fantastic eve Teshmey, who is actually created

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<v Speaker 3>for this movie and then went on to be in

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<v Speaker 3>the comics and in the continuing like Araverse and in

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<v Speaker 3>James Gun's upcoming Superman, but also this establishes one of

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite things about these movies that I think the

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<v Speaker 3>modern movies have not continued, and I would like to

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<v Speaker 3>see James Gun movie continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Lois Lane, played.

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<v Speaker 5>By Margot Kidder, is absolutely unhinged, like she will throw

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<v Speaker 5>herself off a building just to get Superman to come

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, get her and then like hold her to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get the get the story, to get the story.

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<v Speaker 3>So like I just want to say, I love unhinged

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<v Speaker 3>Lewis Lane, who will.

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<v Speaker 1>Like throw herself off a building.

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<v Speaker 5>But yes, Superman too, Let's get to it, because I

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<v Speaker 5>always remember the opening of this movie and just thinking

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<v Speaker 5>it was so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, here's the thing about the performance. But Margot

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<v Speaker 3>Kidder of Lois Lane, who again wonderful. She's opened up

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<v Speaker 3>about I think her her as many in the late

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<v Speaker 3>seventies were doing dabbling into the substances, and so you

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<v Speaker 3>get the feeling that she was, oh baby, she was

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<v Speaker 3>really really excited during these films.

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<v Speaker 7>Definitely she's loving our life.

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<v Speaker 3>Next up Superman two Richard Donner and Richard Lester starring

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<v Speaker 3>because the Gene Hackman turned stamp who Zod and of

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<v Speaker 3>course Margot Kidder.

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<v Speaker 1>Previously of course, we you know, we open like.

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<v Speaker 3>In the in the immediate almost wake of cerment.

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<v Speaker 1>During this missile into space.

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<v Speaker 3>That missile which went out into space blows up, and

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<v Speaker 3>it just so it's like the universe is.

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<v Speaker 1>A huge place, huge, galaxy is huge.

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<v Speaker 3>But by chance the blast wave shatters this space prison

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<v Speaker 3>created on Krypton to house vicious Kryptonian war criminal General

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<v Speaker 3>Zod and his two compatriots, the nonfable non and Ursa,

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<v Speaker 3>his right hand lieutenant. Back on Earth, Clark is in

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<v Speaker 3>Niagara Falls on assignment with Lois, and there's this very

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<v Speaker 3>funny thing where they have to stay at this like

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<v Speaker 3>Niagara Falls, like wedding overnightantic kind of hotel with a

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<v Speaker 3>big heartbed and a big like and a jacuzzi and

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<v Speaker 3>a fire pit and the in the room and all

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff, and Clark is like saving Lois during different

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<v Speaker 3>things during the day. And then but back at the

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<v Speaker 3>hotel room, he falls into the fire pit and and

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<v Speaker 3>Lois is like, oh my god, are you okay, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's likely don't look at it, don't look. And then

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<v Speaker 3>when he turns and she gets a look at him,

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<v Speaker 3>she realizes, wait a second, you're fine. Hold on a second.

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<v Speaker 3>He must be superman. And he's like, he takes off

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<v Speaker 3>his glasses. Incredible, he takes off the glasses, stands up

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<v Speaker 3>and you're like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, he is, so he admits it.

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<v Speaker 3>He takes her to the Fortress of Solitude, shows her

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<v Speaker 3>all the stuff, all the crystals.

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<v Speaker 1>Tells you about.

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<v Speaker 7>Superman is like such a trusting guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Like the moment he tells Lewis Lane, He's like, come

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<v Speaker 5>to my secret portress, Come to my secret Antarctic fortress

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<v Speaker 5>that was made of a disco jacuzzi, and see all

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<v Speaker 5>my alien history. I'm gonna tell you everything. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>come on, Beb, come on, Beb. She's not gonna betray you,

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<v Speaker 5>but like off jump immediately She's tell everything exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>She's kind of like the biggest The conversations around journalism

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<v Speaker 3>and Superman are so interesting. So he shows her all

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<v Speaker 3>the stuff and then he says, you know what for

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<v Speaker 3>us to be together, basically like I've got.

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<v Speaker 1>To be a human like you.

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<v Speaker 3>So the for watch this, and he steps into this

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<v Speaker 3>crystal phone booth and there's lights and there's sound and

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<v Speaker 3>happening inside the phone booth, and when he steps out,

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<v Speaker 3>he's just a guy, no powers anymore. They make beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>satisfying love in a white bed. I feel like if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Lewis Lane and I'm like falling, I'm like keep

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<v Speaker 3>the super powers for the first time at least, like

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<v Speaker 3>I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to die.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's not like just let's just jump into it, like yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 1>The don't just like become a human like guse by.

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<v Speaker 3>The way, like we have to kind of get married now,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not like I'm not getting married now.

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<v Speaker 7>And I just get married to like some brat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, come on, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile, Zod lands on Earth and immediately he and his

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<v Speaker 3>fellows realize that they're incredibly powerful because they with their

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<v Speaker 3>heat eyes and they're just like, you know, cars are

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<v Speaker 3>crashing into them and nothing's so they're like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>why don't we just take over there? Everybody's so weak here?

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<v Speaker 5>What do you just like take over the entire because

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<v Speaker 5>it was like it's meant to be because hey, power

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<v Speaker 5>us who.

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<v Speaker 3>Runs this place? And they're like the president, they're great.

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<v Speaker 1>They fly to watching the DC.

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<v Speaker 3>Get into the White House, beat up everybody, the president.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like smacking the president around a live TV. And

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<v Speaker 3>then Zoon is like put the cameras on me, and

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<v Speaker 3>he put the cameras on him and He's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I run this place. I am General Zoon. I run

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<v Speaker 3>this place. Now, you will all kneel before. Kneel before.

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<v Speaker 3>And Clark sees this on television in a diner where

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<v Speaker 3>he just got beat up by like a regular guy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the random dude who was harassing Lois and Clark

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<v Speaker 3>was like, hey, you don't do that, and the guy

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh yeah, watch this, and he beats the

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<v Speaker 3>ship out of Clark and Clark realizes, fuck, I mean

0:20:55.320 --> 0:21:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I fu becomes like Lois is like wiping the blood

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<v Speaker 3>off his face with a navy He's like, damn, I

0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:09.320
<v Speaker 3>was hasty. One thing I appreciate about these movies and

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<v Speaker 3>movies of this era, man that was quick. There's not

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<v Speaker 3>like he just tides to lose his powers. But you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, immediately you get the scene in which he

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<v Speaker 3>realizes that was mistaken, goes back.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and it's I need like two movies to explain.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just that we don't need his number it.

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<v Speaker 3>This doesn't need to be an entire act. You could

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<v Speaker 3>just like make him go back and and I really

0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.399
<v Speaker 3>appreciated that about this movie. So he goes back and

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<v Speaker 3>goes back to the fortress of Solitude and kind of

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<v Speaker 3>off camera becomes Supermanigan. Meanwhile, Lex loves what he's seeing

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<v Speaker 3>from this Zod guy, so he breaks out of jail

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<v Speaker 3>infiltrates the fortress, learns all about Superman, then goes to

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<v Speaker 3>see Zod and was like, hey, Zod is by the

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<v Speaker 3>way with his feed up like in the Oval office,

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<v Speaker 3>like hang out just like love, you know, running things.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's like, hey, Lex Luthor here and I've got

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<v Speaker 3>some incredible information for you about a guy named Superman.

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<v Speaker 3>He is from I believe the same planet as you,

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<v Speaker 3>and you might know him. And they're like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>I know that, I know his dad.

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<v Speaker 1>We hate that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so they yeah, So they fly to Metropolis

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<v Speaker 3>to like take this guy out there and they're destroying

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<v Speaker 3>the city and then Superman shows up. He's like hey,

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<v Speaker 3>it's me, I'm here. Superman fights all three of them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an incredible fight, but it's becoming too destructive and

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<v Speaker 3>Superman flies away and Zod is like, aha, the coward

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<v Speaker 3>flees and they follow him back to the Fortress of Solitude,

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<v Speaker 3>where Superman tricks everybody. He's like, okay, I will give

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<v Speaker 3>if you will spare Earth like I will give up

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<v Speaker 3>my powers. So he steps back into the crystal phone

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<v Speaker 3>booth and then there's the lights, and then there's the sound.

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.520
<v Speaker 3>But crucially, the lights and the sound are happening outside,

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<v Speaker 3>not inside the phone. And when he steps out, guess what,

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<v Speaker 3>Zod and his buddies are depowered and like easily kills.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he kills them in is he not? I

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<v Speaker 1>think he.

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<v Speaker 3>Throws them into like a bottomless smoke pit, and they

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have anything.

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<v Speaker 7>They never come back.

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<v Speaker 3>They never come back, so they're just kind of dead.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think, listen, we're gonna go to break.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's just think about that. Do we need to

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 3>give Zack Snyder and Man of Steel a little grace?

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<v Speaker 3>Considering in the previous Richard Donner led Superman to film

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<v Speaker 3>a great sequel, Superman Kills Three.

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<v Speaker 7>I will say I I nobody said a thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand why people were upset, but I do agree.

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<v Speaker 5>I am an I've written many articles about whether or

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<v Speaker 5>not Batman kills and the truth is in the comics

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<v Speaker 5>he does kill people. In the movies, he's definitely killing.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think the reality is someone like Superman, even

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<v Speaker 5>with the festive intentions, is sometimes gonna kill.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone a cigarette break, and we're back with.

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<v Speaker 3>Rosie's favorite, my childhood favorite, Superman three. Richard Lelier takes

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<v Speaker 3>the rein starring Christopher Reeve, Richard.

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<v Speaker 1>Prior on Jackie Cooper of.

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<v Speaker 3>Course is Perrie White.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And so Richard Pryor is a computer genius, but he

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<v Speaker 3>is always getting fired and he's he's he's got that

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<v Speaker 3>problem where he's smarter than everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>He works with.

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<v Speaker 2>He's smarter than his boss, and nobody likes that.

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<v Speaker 1>So he gets fired.

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<v Speaker 3>But then he stumbles into a job working for this

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 3>evil tech computer company. And this guy wants to basically

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 3>control the He wants to completely monopolize the world's supply

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 3>of coffee, which is okay, bro all right, yes Webster

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<v Speaker 3>like shure my guy. And by the way, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the film for the first time where I where they

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<v Speaker 3>use the exact bit that Richard Pryor uses in this

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<v Speaker 3>to take the pennies from every paycheck and put it

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<v Speaker 3>into a secret account. This is exactly the This is

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<v Speaker 3>exactly uh the scheme from Office Space. Yes, and in

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<v Speaker 3>fact they call it out that they were doing the

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.440
<v Speaker 3>exact thing from uh from Superman three.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, this is how we learned to embezzel bangs.

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<v Speaker 3>So at the behest of this guy, Prior creates like

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<v Speaker 3>a synthetic Kryptonite tar, and the tar causes Superman to

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<v Speaker 3>become like a meana alcoholic dad.

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<v Speaker 6>I know.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, okay, I'm like is this I'm like, is

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 5>this where they got that?

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 7>Is this like concurrent with Black Suit Spider Man.

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm feeling like there's a lot of Similaritiesier he.

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 3>Gets like stubble on his face and he's like a dick,

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:20.879
<v Speaker 3>and he goes to bars and he's date he causing

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 3>problems like flicking peanuts. Also interesting caninical choice here because,

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:30.639
<v Speaker 3>as you will discover from reading the comics and especially

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 3>in terms of what the Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow story

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 3>taught us, this was before the kind of established canon

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:44.639
<v Speaker 3>of like Cryptonians can't really get drunk on a Yellow

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Sun planet because they're constant, their body's constantly healing.

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 5>And reviving themselves. So this was pre that, So a

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:54.120
<v Speaker 5>rare Superman getting drunk, though I guess the Kryptonite tar

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:59.919
<v Speaker 5>is the reason. But yes, very hilarious and outrageous and

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 5>very like venom coded, very very.

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Venom coded So Superman is goes around and he's doing

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 3>all this like really dick shit he's blowing. He blows

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 3>out the Olympic flame as like the guy is about

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 3>to light the flame during the Olympic ceremonies.

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>He straightens the leaning.

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, that bit I always remember as a

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:26.159
<v Speaker 3>kids like no Joe. So at the behest of the

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:32.679
<v Speaker 3>evil CEO tech villain Richard Pryor creates a supercomputer that

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna use for his grand like coffee scheme. And

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 3>this supercomputer, they lose control of it. It becomes like

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 3>kind of like alive that it becomes the ultimate computer.

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 3>And uh, it like turns a woman into a cyborg

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 3>by like it's a really bizarre fashion that is like

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 3>caused to brings to mind like Metropolis by exceptionally strange movie,

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 3>very very strange movie. It like swallows her up and

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 3>like this like computer tape like covers her and then

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 3>she turns into like this kind of cyborg woman.

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Superman saves the day.

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 3>By like dumping acid that he got from a chemical

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 3>plant on this computer, and he fixes all the things

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 3>that he did. Uh, and Gus gets a new life

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.400
<v Speaker 3>in West Virginia. Because he wasn't really a bad guy.

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.919
<v Speaker 3>He was just like kind of in bad circumstances and

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 3>everything's factly and.

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>We move on too.

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 3>Superman four The Quest for Peace. This is a dumb

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 3>movie and kind of the worst of them. Jpury directed, also.

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 5>Like very Orbits time and kind of like weirdly trying

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 5>to answer the question of like what would Superman really

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 5>try and do? But you probably think about that because

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:55.959
<v Speaker 5>he's Superman, babe, Like he's not, he doesn't exist.

0:28:56.440 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Superman saves some Russians and then later he like decides,

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 3>because of a message Juicy's getting from various people, that

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 3>he should like try and make sure that like World

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 3>War three, a nuclear war never happens.

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Kids are skeed of.

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 5>War, and a kid writes him letter and it's like,

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 5>nucleip war is bad, get rid of every nuke, which

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 5>you know, great kid instinct that but not realistic to

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 5>this the kind of cultural movement of the time.

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes. So meanwhile, Lenny, the I believe nephew of Lex

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Luthor breaks his uncle Lex out just kind of for kicks.

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 3>They go to Metropolis. Lex gets a hold of some

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 3>of Superman's hair and in an early scene of dna

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 3>use ye. He creates this super villain using radioactivity. And

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 3>this guy is Nuclear Man, who's basically you know, he's

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 3>this is what I love about this era. You know,

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 3>he's edgy and bad because he has a mullet.

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 8>He has a mullet, baby crazy, which is also hilarious

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 8>because that again very influential on the comics because then

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 8>later on you will get mullet Superman in his black

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 8>suit absolutely yeah, very interesting.

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.959
<v Speaker 3>So he's got that black Shazam kind of suit and

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 3>he looks like a WWE wrestler, and he's got definitely

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 3>does kind of Palpatine powers.

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, yellow Palpatine powers.

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 3>And he's very very strong, but he needs to stay

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 3>in the sun kind of like Superman. He draws his

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 3>power from the sun, but and his body is a

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 3>nuclear reactor. But like when he's out of direct sunlight,

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 3>unlike Superman, who like can store it like a battery.

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 3>When he's out of it, he like powers down. So

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm an oymous weakness for Nuclear Man. Nuclear Man and

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Superman get in a little fight and Nuclear Man scratches Superman,

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 3>which gives Clark like some kind of radiation disease, and

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 3>then he gets like very very weak and very very

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 3>weak and then old again, a kind of imagery that

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 3>we will see in the comics a lot of times

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 3>with Superman, like you know, getting wilted and shrunken and

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 3>like yeah, and so he gets very very old.

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>But then he heals himself.

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 3>He fights radiation Man on the moon and the daily

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.719
<v Speaker 3>planet building, and like a bunch of other stuff happens,

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 3>and then finally Superman throws Nuclear Man into a nuclear

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 3>reactor and the day is saved. He gives a big

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 3>speech about hey, nuclear war, we can't let it happen,

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 3>and then he flies off, and.

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 5>I also like, guess what, Yeah, they literally call make

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 5>it happen because you threw all the nukes into space,

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 5>which I feel like is also going to have like

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 5>a terrible impact.

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean in its own way, like you

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>break it, you bought it.

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that wasn't good, but also like, let's

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 3>just keep an eye on what's going on. And it

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 3>must have been very very harrowing because when we come

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 3>back to Superman and Superman Returns directed by uh Oh

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Bryan Singer uh Oh, starring Kevin Spacey and Brandon Rowld,

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 3>who's wonderful.

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 7>And lovely guy.

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Perfect Superman casting. I'm so sorry it was in this movie,

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 3>but I love.

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 7>That he was able to literal monsters.

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 5>It was like, I am so glad he got to

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 5>come back in the Hour of Us and kind of

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 5>reclaim this kind of space.

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, just no, So whatever happened in Quest for

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Peace and that the fallout from that must have been

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 3>extremely tiring, because we discovered that Superman just basically.

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Retired after a while.

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 3>He's gone and has not been seen for five years

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 3>because I guess he's just running around dealing with the

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 3>fact that he destroyed everybody's nukes. Anyway, Lois now has

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 3>a kid and a fiance. Say she married to a

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 3>different guy, Lex.

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>K Lex Lewis that crazy costing?

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:10.479
<v Speaker 3>We see Lex sadly Kevin Spacey. He steals crystals from

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 3>the Fortress of Solitude to do something with Clark is

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 3>back of the Daily Planet and he's looking kind of

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 3>heartbroken and sad but basically just being Clark now. And

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 3>he does become Superman again when Lex's experiments with the

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Fortress of Solitude crystals cause a massive power outage, which

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 3>causes the plane which is carrying the Space Shuttle which

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 3>is carrying Lois Lane with a test flight to crash,

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.959
<v Speaker 3>so Superman has to come back Shades of his first

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 3>rescue of Lois Lane from nineteen seventy eighth. Superman in

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 3>the helicopter, now in a plane which is Piggybaggy Space Shuttle,

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 3>he saves her. It's actually like a very The Superman

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 3>scenes in this are wonderful.

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I save like he's.

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 5>Sequence, everyone's happy, and then they kind of try and

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 5>set up like a potential sequel with introducing the fact

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 5>that like it's Lois and.

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 7>Clock Son appearing.

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 3>We discover along with Lex because when he pulls out

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 3>this kryptonite it seems like it's affecting this child. We

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 3>discover that supermana Lowess had a sun what what. So

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 3>one of Lex's the big plans to kill Superman this

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 3>time is he drops a mountain of kryptonite on him

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 3>of like lab grown, like lab diamond grown, but kryptonite grown.

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Kryptonite on Superman. It's generally a mountain of.

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 3>Kryptonite and it crushes him and he drops into the sea,

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 3>but it has you know, gets pulls the kryptonite out

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 3>of his shoulder that had pierced him, and he like

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 3>gets some of his strengths back and then using like

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 3>mud and earth like as a buffer, which I don't

0:34:58.760 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 3>think this would be.

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think this would whack.

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 5>I think this was an illfow out chrystonite planic.

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think this is what it works.

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Also, like it's Superman, you can just make up something cool, babe,

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 3>like ye, like he's just like covering out with mad.

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 3>He uses earth like a layer of earth is a buffer,

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 3>and he lifts the mountain of kryptonite up into space

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 3>once again, throwing his problems in the space.

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 7>The Superman stop it, it's bad.

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 3>He throws it out of the space, but the effort

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:32.280
<v Speaker 3>almost kills him. When he wakes up in the hospital,

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 3>he finds that Lois is there with his son, and

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 3>we are to assume, because we don't know what happens,

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:39.320
<v Speaker 3>that they.

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Are back together again.

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 3>And it certainly seems like that from what happens with

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 3>the husband and all that stuff we don't know.

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Fast forward too.

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Twenty Thirteen's imperfect, but at times I think pretty entertaining

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 3>at least some of the action.

0:35:58.120 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I really.

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 5>It look whatever, all the all the drama, all the

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.760
<v Speaker 5>feelings that people have about this. It is a totally

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 5>different take on Superman. It's very much in the This

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 5>is a man who'd already made a Watchmen movie.

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>At this point.

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:17.280
<v Speaker 5>We know that he loves scrimm and gritty, he loves stark,

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 5>and I do remember at the time there was a

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 5>I was very excited, and I remember there was a

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 5>great conversation kind of in the comic shop about like, Okay, well,

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 5>we are living in a like a post nine to

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 5>eleven world. We are living in a space where like

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 5>there is a growing hatred and fear of people that

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:40.240
<v Speaker 5>are not deemed as being like from where you're from.

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 3>So it's interesting to see Superman basically like treated as

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 3>an alien. I remember that was like a big kind

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 3>of thing people were interested to see.

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Obviously as well, Henry Carville.

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 5>Looks like Superman, but English Superman very controversial because Superman

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 5>is this Midwestern boy.

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>You know. I thought he was wonderful and so ripped,

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:03.399
<v Speaker 1>and you know.

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 3>He looks like a little kids perfect drawing up some

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 3>absolutely and when you see him in the suit for

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 3>the first time, you're like, oh, yeah, so starring Henry

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 3>cavill Amy Adams as lois Michael Shrandon with a incredible

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 3>score by Hans wonderful, crazy score. Hans is really in

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 3>his bag when he's in the Night of Us. He

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:32.399
<v Speaker 3>absolutely really funny, incredible, wild themes that are just so good.

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 3>We open on Krypton, and you know what's going on

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 3>on kryptonop It is fucked, folks. It is falling apart.

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 3>But Jorell rides like a dragonfly. Now, so that's really cool.

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 3>And he's been trying to tell everybody, like, we.

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Got this problem. The Krypton is gonna fall apart.

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Nobody understands it but him, And we also get more

0:37:56.600 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 3>of an idea of like political issues happen within Crypton. Yes,

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 3>General Zod is part of like this very very like

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 3>uh ultra conservative faction who wants to seize power in Krypton.

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 1>But of course Krypton's falling apart.

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 3>So Jorell, who I forgot to even mention Jorell keeping

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 3>the legacy of like incredible cameos is Russell.

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 7>Crowe is keeping that it's keeping it going.

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 3>So Jorell, uh, you know, sends his son to space

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:42.240
<v Speaker 3>and kal El clarklands in Kansas. He's adopted by Jonathan

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:49.919
<v Speaker 3>and Martha Kent. My mom's absolute favorite person in the world.

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Kevin Costner.

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 7>Yes, mom loves Cabin cost.

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 3>Loves I don't know if I have how much I've

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 3>talked about this, but let me just tell people. My

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:05.399
<v Speaker 3>mother has been involved in a very intense one way

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:09.919
<v Speaker 3>crush with Kevin Costner since the eighties. She loves Kevin

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Costner watches Yellowstone. I was gonna say, yeah, absolutely Yellowstone.

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 3>She told me about Yellowstone. I didn't know what it

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 3>was and was very shattered when he decided to leave

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 3>the show. Diane Lane, the Wonderful Diane Lane is Martha Kent.

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 3>This is a star studed affair. So you know, Clark

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 3>has his powers, but he's got to keep him secret.

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 3>It's that whole thing. And then he basically decides, you

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 3>know what, I'm just because these are it's gonna be

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 3>hard to stay in one place with these powers.

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>He just becomes.

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 3>Like like Bruce Banner in The Hulk television show, kind

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 3>of like a wandering strong guy doing heroic acts secretly,

0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 3>like particularly in the North regions up in Canada and stuff,

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 3>saving men from oil dereks and all this kind of stuff.

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Lois Lane is sent to investigate the emergence of apparent

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 3>aliens like on Earth. The Kryptonian Scoutship has entered Earth.

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Clark enters the ship disguised as a worker and he

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 3>figures out, oh, this is where I'm from, and in fact,

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.919
<v Speaker 3>and that's my dad he's talking to me, and now

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 3>i'm and that's a suit for me, and he puts

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 3>it on, and he figures out his powers and he

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 3>flies for the first time in a sequence that is

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 3>actually really great, Like I think if you were just

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 3>gonna pull superhero scenes, like best superhero scenes of the

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 3>last whatever thirty years, I think Henry Cavill flying for

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 3>the first time, Yeah, is pretty pretty pretty good. Unfortunately,

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Zod and his people arrive also on Earth, and they

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 3>get the powers and they just start fucking wrecking shop.

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>They're beating up like Mike.

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 3>Just like so good too. He is just like the

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 3>weirdest choice. I mean totally commits and I love it.

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 3>And he just starts like they just start wrecking shop

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 3>all of it. They're just destroying shit, killing like army

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 3>guys left and right, throwing tanks around, throwing helicopters around

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 3>the entire US military cannot stop them, and they have

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 3>this cannot stop to create to use this very very

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 3>powerful like terraforming device and their ship to turn Krypton

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 3>into turn Earth into new Krypton, which of course God

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:38.760
<v Speaker 3>will rule.

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>This will of course destroy the Earth.

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 3>And they turn it on and it starts destroying lots

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 3>of stuff, and like Metropolis is falling apart, Superman flies

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 3>into action. There's a incredible fight that absolutely detonates.

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 1>A good portion of Metropolis.

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Rosie estimated casualties in this unbelievable, Like you're talking about

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 3>like hundreds of thousands of people, and.

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:12.759
<v Speaker 5>Certainly it must be at least in the thousands when

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 5>it comes to casualties.

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 1>And this is a question.

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.240
<v Speaker 5>This is the I think, let's not say the problem,

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:22.800
<v Speaker 5>but this is one of the prices you have to pay.

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.720
<v Speaker 7>For doing a realistic, more grounded version.

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 3>Is when you're in a city that clearly looks like

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 3>a city that we recognize, that has real buildings and

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 3>we know has we've as people who've lived through real crisises,

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 3>you could you are thinking like, this is a lot

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:40.320
<v Speaker 3>of people who are dying at this point.

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 7>So honestly, does.

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 5>The controversial ending which we're about to talk about really

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 5>matter if there's already been thousands of people killed as

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 5>collateral damage.

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 1>That's up to what you.

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 7>Think about Superman and how he would deal with his issues.

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:57.240
<v Speaker 3>I think if you told me fifty thousand to eighty

0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 3>thousand dead in Metropolis, I believe it would that would

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 3>make sense because multiple buildings pancake, there's a huge crater.

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 1>In the middle of the city, like the city is Detroit,

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not gone.

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:15.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, no, so Superman before he faces Zod, he manages

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 3>to get the rest of his army sent to the

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 3>Phantom Zone. He arrives, he fights Zod. They end up

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:26.800
<v Speaker 3>in the train station where Zod is about to fry

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 3>like innocent people with his heat beams, and so Clark

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 3>snaps his neck.

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And this was.

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 3>Very, very controversial. I agree that it's Also it's not

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 3>how Superman would actually do it. Yes, I'm like, surely

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 3>he could just send him to the Phantom Zone too. Yeah,

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he would do it like this. I

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 3>also feel like real Superman would have taken Zod out

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 3>into space or the moon or something to fight him

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 3>there there.

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:53.879
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.319
<v Speaker 5>Actually also and in the comics, I believe he did

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 5>kill Zod on the moon at one point.

0:43:58.680 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>So pre crisis.

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean, this is one of those interesting things where

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 5>I just deeply love the fact that people have so

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 5>much faith and hope and like put so much of

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:13.399
<v Speaker 5>themselves into Superman that this was like really striking for them.

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 5>But you know, it is like in comics, he definitely

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.840
<v Speaker 5>was killing people in the Golden Age, throwing people off roofs.

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:25.799
<v Speaker 3>He's killed Bizarro, he kills he kills three Kryptonians, yes,

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 3>at least.

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 5>One, and also like you know, he had to kill Doomsday,

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, but so it's not that shocking. But I

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 5>think what is shocking is kind of seeing the moment

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:41.240
<v Speaker 5>that he breaks his neck in this like very brutal,

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 5>very interpersonal way, and then he kind of has this

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 5>scream and it really did it.

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 7>It's a very phantom menace.

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I mean Revenge of the sif Like, no, yeah,

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 5>very interesting choice. And I think this is where you

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 5>start to see the split between like those who believe

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:04.399
<v Speaker 5>Superman is this kind of hopeful symbol and those who

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 5>are trying to watch like a grounded what would it

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:07.800
<v Speaker 5>really be like if he was here.

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so, and Superman saves the day and goes to

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 3>work at the Daily Planet and as a war.

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:38.240
<v Speaker 2>We go to Batman v. Superman Dawn of Justice.

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 1>David s.

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Goyer back on the script, picking up the reins that

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 3>he had previously been holding for a Man of Steel.

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 1>He's joined by Chris Terrio.

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 3>Of course, Zack Snyder continues to be the director, and

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 3>now we enter the as Like.

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 7>Era but flock bats look so long.

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Story short. Lex Luthor.

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Manipulates Batman and Superman into hating each other and getting

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:16.080
<v Speaker 3>in a big fight. Batman has to make a suit

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:19.720
<v Speaker 3>in order to be able to deal because he's old.

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 7>He's like twenty years old. This is the very long

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 7>Night Ratuns.

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 3>He has to be able to deal with Superman. Also

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Luthor again using Superman by Jesse Eisenbachi wonderfully played.

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I think by Jesse Isabers.

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 7>I think he's channeling Gene Hackman. Yeah, Mark Zuckerbug, and

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 7>I like it.

0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:41.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna like So he creates a genetic monster

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 3>from the body of Zod and also like his own

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 3>body to you know, create this like threat, and Superman

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:57.239
<v Speaker 3>and Batman figure out that they've been pitted against each other,

0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 3>and they fitted out and they and they kind of

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 3>bond over the fact that.

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 6>This.

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 5>I have to say, David Escoya, you've been on the podcast,

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 5>come back on the podcast, because this is actually, I

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 5>think one of the most genius connections agree nobody else. Like,

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 5>we literally talk about this stuff every single day. At

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 5>the time this movie came out, I was working at

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:25.920
<v Speaker 5>the cinema and literally we were talking about these movies,

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 5>about comic books, everything, And somehow when Nay said Martha.

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 1>What did you say that name?

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 7>Some reason, I had never really clocked that both of

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:39.839
<v Speaker 7>their mums were called Martha. So, David Eskoya, good for you.

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Like, this is a hilarious, hilarious scene, but also like

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 3>an incredible little subtle thing that for some reason, we

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:50.319
<v Speaker 3>never talked about. I did the same thing watching this movie.

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, this is a bad movie. Whatever, I'm gonna

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 3>enjoy it. But when the Marsa thing happened, I was like, Oh,

0:47:57.800 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 3>that's good.

0:47:58.800 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 7>How is he that score?

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:00.399
<v Speaker 1>See?

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 7>How did we never work that before? But it is hilarious.

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 7>Would you say that name?

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:09.320
<v Speaker 5>Also, my other favorite bit in this movie, which comes

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.880
<v Speaker 5>from the kind of DC, was very much trying to

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:14.359
<v Speaker 5>make their own MCU. At this point, they're trying to

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:17.439
<v Speaker 5>branch out. So one of my favorite moments is when

0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:20.720
<v Speaker 5>you know, Wonder Woman arrives and you get that great

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 5>junkie xel hans Zima score dinner. It's like she's like

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:31.040
<v Speaker 5>a rock star something. But Batman like does the secret

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:35.359
<v Speaker 5>mission and basically just like steals like a USB drive

0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:37.760
<v Speaker 5>that has YouTube videos on it, and he's like watching

0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:38.840
<v Speaker 5>YouTube videos.

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 7>He's like the Flash YouTube video, the da Coman YouTube video.

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:45.879
<v Speaker 7>And I was like, what is going on?

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:47.080
<v Speaker 1>But good for you, guys.

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 7>I love this.

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:48.560
<v Speaker 1>This is crazy.

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, and I should we should note that twenty

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 3>sixteen's Captain America Civil War kind of rips off the

0:48:56.560 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Martha thing.

0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's actually a good point.

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Controversial we've got let's just acknowledge it and listen.

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 1>The history of these.

0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:12.280
<v Speaker 3>Two franchises constantly, Yes, these ip generating machines, they're always

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 3>ripping each other of Oh.

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 7>Baby, it is kind of the same.

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Plot turn for the Island of.

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:20.280
<v Speaker 4>Cool.

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 7>But yes, Luther's plan is happening.

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.920
<v Speaker 5>His plan was doomsday, which if you read the comics

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:28.200
<v Speaker 5>you probably saw that coming.

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 3>Diana shows up, they fight, the Doomsday, they beat it

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:34.479
<v Speaker 3>and Superman dies.

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, how can it happen?

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:38.840
<v Speaker 7>How could happen?

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:42.919
<v Speaker 5>But don't worry, because there's a post credit s dun

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 5>dun dud d And you start to hear a little.

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:50.520
<v Speaker 7>And you realize, actually, Superman's just chilling, and that coffin

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:52.520
<v Speaker 7>he's just and yeah.

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:53.719
<v Speaker 1>So here we go.

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:56.840
<v Speaker 3>It's set Snyder's fucking Justice.

0:49:56.680 --> 0:50:01.359
<v Speaker 5>League twenty seventeen and twenty twenty one. There was four

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:03.799
<v Speaker 5>years in between that we had to deal with all

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:07.800
<v Speaker 5>of that, and it's happening. Directed Justice League twenty seventeen,

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 5>director by Jack Snyder and Joss Whedon.

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Let's not forget. They put him in, they pour him in,

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:15.799
<v Speaker 3>and the people didn't like it. Tout sprinkle some of

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 3>that magic mcu dust on our It didn't work on

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 3>our DC verse, it didn't quite work. Superman is dead,

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 3>Earth's vulnerable. Batman puts together the Justice League.

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:34.680
<v Speaker 5>Incredible Jason Momoa sequence where he came out of the

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 5>water and Nim.

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:38.719
<v Speaker 7>And Bruce are like bad Eye. Also, I just want

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:39.320
<v Speaker 7>to say something.

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.280
<v Speaker 5>I don't think I think we've talked about this before.

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:44.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't think this is particularly controversial. Obviously, I'm not

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 5>a surprised twist here. I'm not talking about Corman. We

0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:50.479
<v Speaker 5>know how much I love about Corman. But actually, when

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:52.880
<v Speaker 5>I go back and watch these movies, which I have

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 5>to do a lot with this kind of you know pudding,

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 5>I think Ben Affleck is actually really good at being Batman.

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:02.680
<v Speaker 5>I like this old Batman, but I wish that it's

0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 5>a different space. This is one of those movies where

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 5>Batman is killing so many people, Like, he is killing

0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 5>so many people.

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 3>He's got guns on the Batman bile, He's shooting up

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:18.799
<v Speaker 3>that's he's killing everyone. It seemed to me at the

0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 3>time like heavily influenced by the Arkham interpretation interpret interpretation

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 3>of Batman, in which I mean Batman is absolutely breaking

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 3>people people, fracturing skulls and like driving people off buildings. Yeah,

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:41.680
<v Speaker 3>so like it's that level of of Batman. Anyway, So

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:47.399
<v Speaker 3>Steppenwolf has a mother Box and that's really bad, and

0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:55.480
<v Speaker 3>so the the the Nascent Justice League, Diana Cyborg, Batman,

0:51:55.960 --> 0:52:00.120
<v Speaker 3>Barry Allen are like, well, there's we're good, but like

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 3>without Superman, what are we gonna do? So we got

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:07.920
<v Speaker 3>to resurrect him. So they resurrect Clark, but he's like,

0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:13.160
<v Speaker 3>doesn't remember anything about what is He's basically just like

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:16.279
<v Speaker 3>he's like a baby who's got Superman Palace, which is

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:21.919
<v Speaker 3>very dangerous, very very dangerous. But listen, finally they all

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:25.880
<v Speaker 3>get together. That's I mean basically that what happens is, uh,

0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:30.520
<v Speaker 3>they all get together, Clark remembers who he is, they

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:37.720
<v Speaker 3>fight Steppenwolf, and they win. Let's eventually escapes, and that's

0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 3>meant to set up the you know, the upcoming Justice

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:46.720
<v Speaker 3>League movies, along with a little cameo in the Injustice League,

0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, trying to do that. But oh yes, as

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:54.719
<v Speaker 3>the Jared Joker is in there somehow given job like

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<v Speaker 3>the stuff, they get a little Martian Manhunter a cameo.

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<v Speaker 2>But ultimately, uh, we've.

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<v Speaker 7>This twenty twenty one, it's done.

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<v Speaker 5>It exists, it's out there. You can watch that, you

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<v Speaker 5>can watch both versions of it. And now four years later,

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<v Speaker 5>we're entering into this new universe of gods and monsters with.

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<v Speaker 7>James Gunn Superman. Okay, Jason, let me ask you a question.

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<v Speaker 5>Is there something you want to see in a James

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<v Speaker 5>gun in James Gunn Superman movie that you have never.

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<v Speaker 7>Seen in any of these other movies.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, listen, we're getting Crypto. That's what I was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna say. I want to see that side. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to see the cute side, the wild side, the crypt

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I love Crypto. I think that's a great call.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to see that love between Superman and his

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<v Speaker 5>family and the people he chooses to be in his family,

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<v Speaker 5>the dog and I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>And the comic version.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, the Fortress of Solitude was always very in the

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<v Speaker 3>Donner movies. It's there's nothing in there. There's like no

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<v Speaker 3>furniti anything, there's.

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<v Speaker 1>No Hall of Trophy.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not cozy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's none of the stuff like in the comics.

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<v Speaker 3>You go in there and it's like a playland. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's Superman's back, It's Superman's batcave. Yeah, there's this shrunken

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<v Speaker 3>city in a bottle. There's all the trophies, there's like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like all his uh androids and stuff. There's

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<v Speaker 3>so much stuff in there.

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<v Speaker 1>His lab is like research lab.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I'm really eager, and I know we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to go in there and see some of that, So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really eager to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that what about you do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>particularly like, you know, what I want to see.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to see uh Lois and Clark with that chemistry.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like we haven't gone that for a long time,

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<v Speaker 5>where there's that real like here at two people, the

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<v Speaker 5>immovable Object and the unstoppable Force, you know, coming together.

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<v Speaker 7>I love that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm excited to see Jimmy Olsen. I'm excited to see

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<v Speaker 5>more in the Daily Planet, which is something we haven't

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<v Speaker 5>really gotten a lot since the original Donna movies. We

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<v Speaker 5>did get a little bit of that, and I will

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<v Speaker 5>say something that they got right about Lois in the

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<v Speaker 5>Snyder stuff is like.

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<v Speaker 1>She's un him.

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<v Speaker 5>She's going to the craziest, most deadly places because she

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<v Speaker 5>knows Superman will show up. I just want to see

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<v Speaker 5>a loving, hopeful Superman. I want to be back in

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<v Speaker 5>that more positive world. I want to see these crazy

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<v Speaker 5>kind of characters and adventures. So I'm just really excited.

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<v Speaker 5>Four years is not a long time between Superman movies,

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<v Speaker 5>as you can see from like, you know, two thousand

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<v Speaker 5>and six is like almost you know, twenty years after

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<v Speaker 5>the last Donna movie, and then two thousand and six

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<v Speaker 5>to twenty thirteen. This is one of the shorter amounts

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<v Speaker 5>of time between these kind of new, different iterations. But

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like in that four years, so much happened,

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<v Speaker 5>the world change.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all still living through it.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm excited to see this kind of new, hopefully

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<v Speaker 5>kind of positive Superman that we can hold on too.

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<v Speaker 5>I also, I just think that David quarant So it's

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<v Speaker 5>like such good Superman class thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's giving me great, it's giving pure clock.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm just excited to see.

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<v Speaker 5>I also want to know how James Gunn is going

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<v Speaker 5>to solve the glasses issue, because he said he's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>solve it.

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<v Speaker 7>He said it's gonna happen. What's he gonna pull from?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it gonna be controversial? Is it not the people

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<v Speaker 3>other than me even care. I don't know, but I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so close now. I mean, we're like three

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<v Speaker 3>days away from the end of June and then boom,

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<v Speaker 3>July eleventh, that's when we get Superman.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be of course covering Superman.

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<v Speaker 3>With our reactions and getting you ready to watch it,

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<v Speaker 3>and Rosie's gonna be having giving you some omnibi to

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<v Speaker 3>get us ready for that.

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<v Speaker 1>On the next episode of Extra Vision, We're.

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<v Speaker 2>Diving into the finale, the Strong Finale.

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<v Speaker 7>The very Strong Finale.

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<v Speaker 1>Iron Heart. That's it for this episode. Next We'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Ii x ray Vision is hosted by Jason steps Young

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<v Speaker 3>and Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts.

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