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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another edition the Club. Sha Shay. I

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Speaker 1: am your host and proprietor and the gentleman that stops

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Speaker 1: by the club for some conversation on the drink. Today.

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Speaker 1: There's a comedian. He's an actor, he's a writer, he's

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Speaker 1: a producer. Mister JBA's movement all my life and grinding

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Speaker 1: all my life, sacond fights, custle back pricing. One slice,

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Speaker 1: got the bron dice swathing all my life. I've been

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Speaker 1: grinding all my life, all my life, and running all

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Speaker 1: my life, sacri fice, custle back to pricing. One slice,

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Speaker 1: got the brother dice swathing all my life. I've been

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Speaker 1: grinding all my life. Smooth. What's going on? Brouh? Hey man?

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Speaker 1: I told you man, I'm working on these guns right now,

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Speaker 1: trying to get the trying get these guns right now.

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Speaker 1: Most people work out they get the guns right for

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Speaker 1: the summer, right, my guns right for the wintertime. I'm

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Speaker 1: more of a you know, like my turnick look good

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Speaker 1: on me. I'm a tournament guy. I don't know wa drink.

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Speaker 1: I got a good turnament, man, A well fit tournament

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Speaker 1: look good with arms in your chest A little bit,

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Speaker 1: you know, it does it's it's kind of like almost

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Speaker 1: like the body suit for the female, the cat the

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Speaker 1: body sluit cat suit for the female because the eggs

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Speaker 1: situates if you if you muscular, if you've got decent

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Speaker 1: body structure, It's like, wow, okay, yeah, yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something sharing that the turnleni is

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Speaker 1: the greatest invention in fashion history. Turtle that when the

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Speaker 1: tournament came out and see and it transcends all all time.

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Speaker 1: It's time. It's in the future. I'm telling you, in

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Speaker 1: the future. It's cats wearing turn next in the future

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Speaker 1: and wearing them in the past. The turtlet has been

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Speaker 1: around a long time. Well, because you can dress it

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Speaker 1: up and dress it down. You can wear it with

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Speaker 1: a soup, you can wear it with jeans. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's a great it's a great piece. I

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Speaker 1: recommend that every man have at least one. I've not

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Speaker 1: seen I've not seen anybody wear one with shorts yet,

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Speaker 1: but no doubt. But it cause you just gave somebody

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Speaker 1: an idea. But because if you remember smooth, it used

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Speaker 1: to be you never saw anyone where uh shorts with

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Speaker 1: got wearing shorts and ties and bow ties. So you

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Speaker 1: just waited to one of an idea. I just guessed

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Speaker 1: my adorpe idea. Hey why not, man, this is this

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Speaker 1: is about to be tournaineck weather. I'm getting I'm getting

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Speaker 1: my tournaments lined up. I got a bunch of them,

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Speaker 1: all the all colors lined up, ready to go. Well, considering,

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Speaker 1: consider you saying it's about to be turtleneck weather, it's

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Speaker 1: very apparent to me you do not live in LA

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Speaker 1: You live back east. No, it doesn't matter to me

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Speaker 1: where I live. I'm on the West coast. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I'm back and forth in New York. But when if

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Speaker 1: and I fly back wearing said tourna neck, and I

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Speaker 1: land at Las and it's ninety degrees outside, I'm still

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Speaker 1: wearing that they turn at home. I'm gonna wear that turn.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it. I'm gonna pull off and have

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Speaker 1: a taktop of it, because I don't wear no damn

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Speaker 1: look smooth. I want you to see I want you

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Speaker 1: to see the turn. The damn. Yeah, you you want

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Speaker 1: to see that. You want everybody to see that silhouette.

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Speaker 1: You want to see on the pegs and the damns

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Speaker 1: and yeah, the traps. You want all that the situated

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Speaker 1: to me a turning a damn a tank top getting away. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hate. It's like seeing a broad strap on a

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Speaker 1: Why she got that damn turn that damn Brazil showing

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Speaker 1: up under that damn cat suit. But pron Temple was

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Speaker 1: going to how you being man? I'm doing good, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, we were camping out. Man, we

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Speaker 1: on the quarantine right now. Of course we all just

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Speaker 1: capping the easy. No, no, we're doing No. You gotta

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Speaker 1: come up with one mate. We do a little social

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Speaker 1: distancing picnic in the yard. You know, everybody bring a

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Speaker 1: little blanket. You know. I even got myself one of

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Speaker 1: those picnic baskets. You know, really do you have one

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Speaker 1: when I walk into my yard right and we make

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Speaker 1: I bring my little picnic basket. Now, in that picnic basket,

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Speaker 1: you you put through wine glasses in there, you put

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Speaker 1: some grapes, you know, made some vegan cheeses, assortment, assortment

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Speaker 1: of the vegan seesons. You getting dressed up. You're going

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Speaker 1: to walk fifty feet to your backyard. Hey, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: just up right now you. I didn't a shirt I

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Speaker 1: got when they say I want to be on your show,

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Speaker 1: I put my shoes on, I got my dress pants on.

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Speaker 1: You know I do. I thought a little baby smooth

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Speaker 1: you know what. I'm glad you're not taking the mistake

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Speaker 1: like some of these people doing on zoom, and they

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Speaker 1: forget that you do real life. On zoom. People can

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Speaker 1: see you. This is not the old the old, the

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Speaker 1: old just the audio. This is visual. Also, so the

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Speaker 1: antics that you think you might have had going back there,

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Speaker 1: you can't do that on the zoom go. Hey. Technology

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Speaker 1: has advanced to the point where you can't do You

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Speaker 1: gotta be careful and watch what the heir you say,

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Speaker 1: and watch what you're doing. You be live, people be

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Speaker 1: living all the time. Yeah, anything can happened when you live,

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Speaker 1: anything can go wrong, you know. So I watched the

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Speaker 1: She ain't got no brawl, and the teacher like, ma'am, ma'am,

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Speaker 1: your son's oh you're own lot and mama in the

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Speaker 1: back in the day. We call that show and tail Yeah,

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Speaker 1: bring you know, you're bringing something to the class. Right there,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna talk about it. So obviously they've been you know,

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Speaker 1: with the pandemic and all, there's not helping. Obviously you

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Speaker 1: the quarantine has been lifted? Yes, man, Yes, this has

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Speaker 1: been a remarkable kind of thing that we're dealing with

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Speaker 1: So you're got a life. Like we just said, the

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Speaker 1: technology has advanced to the point where you've got to

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Speaker 1: be creative with it, and I've been. I've been recording

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Speaker 1: on Netflix. No, I'm Woke. The Woke series is on Hulu,

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Speaker 1: That's been fun with Lamourne and a bunch of us

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Speaker 1: stuff at IFC. We did some promos in my yard.

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Speaker 1: You know, it just keeps you up. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: I've been lucky because I planted a lot of seeds, man.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just planted a lot of seeds. Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, I show up early, I stayed late. You know,

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Speaker 1: Even before the pandemic, I just kept planting the little seeds.

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Speaker 1: stayed busy, you know. And of course Kirby Enthusiasm. We're

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Speaker 1: And then then of course I'm producing a bunch of stuff.

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Speaker 1: in the day with John Tavolta was in it called

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Speaker 1: the Boy in the Plastic Bubble. Oh man, I had

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Speaker 1: movie right there, come over, I just love that one.

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Speaker 1: And remember the other one, the other show. They all

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Speaker 1: and all the good shows. Remember had the boy what

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Speaker 1: So Jane James would run home for school every day

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Speaker 1: that I would take a character and make it my own.

424
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Speaker 1: And they allowed me to have fun and elaborate with

425
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: the character and make it fun, so that they gotta

426
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: give you a little a little rope. They gotta give

427
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: you a little rope and let you have fun, let

428
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: you and let you give your seeds. So do they

429
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: let you are you? Are you able to add live

430
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 1: more in a movie than TV or vice versa. It

431
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: depends what the project is. Now. Now, they let me

432
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: get nice. They let me go in Barbershop, they let

433
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: me go in in Almost Christmas, they let me go

434
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: a little a bit in Spider Man. So they know

435
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: that I'm coming. I'm coming from the improv world, all right,

436
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 1: and they know exactly what I knew. So they're gonna

437
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna naturally let me. They don't want me to

438
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: come on stage and be a robot on the set.

439
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: They want me to do go do j B. You

440
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: know we brough We got you in the movie because

441
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: we want you to we want you to go. But

442
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: that but that also expands the writing, you know, for

443
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,479
Speaker 1: the writers, and they know you're coming in, they're gonna say, oh,

444
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: that's let's just give him a framework and I know

445
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: ja be gonna take it and he's gonna start to

446
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: get worthy. He don't'ta have fun with it. He gonna

447
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: make it what it is. You know, all that all

448
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: that stuff in barbershop, playing around me and said, going

449
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: back and forth, joking around that barber shop, that's all

450
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: like some of that stuff. We just came up off

451
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: top of our hand with that. And that's where a

452
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: lot of us on the set because you know, when

453
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 1: when you're comedians, they're gonna let you with elaborate and

454
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: let you improvised that they have fun now. But that's

455
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: not saying it's not that's not saying it's easier now.

456
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: Enthusiasm take that some people. Some people don't as amazing

457
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: as they are, they can't improvise as well. They rather have. Yeah,

458
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: give me, give me what I'm gonna say, and I'm

459
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: gonna give you exactly what you want right now. But

460
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: that does not say it is going to come with

461
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: making decisions right when I'm working. I'm working for Larry.

462
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: I gotta sit there and say, you know, since there

463
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: is no full script, I gotta sit there and say,

464
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: I got make the decision in the moment. Am I

465
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: gonna have Larry's back in this scene? Or all I

466
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: want to go against them? Right? And that that I

467
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: gotta think about how many laughs am I gonna get

468
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: out of having his back and going along with him

469
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: with this craziness, or how much Marge I'm gonna get

470
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: out of going against him? Right? You know what I mean?

471
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: Say you're wrong, Larry, You're wrong, or you're right. You know.

472
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: So I gotta sit there and try to think how

473
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: how I can make this work and get the most

474
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: funny out of it. And it's and at the same time,

475
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm also you know, I'm making a point. Since it

476
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: is improv and since my character doesn't have any origin,

477
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: they don't know what the hell my character really came from.

478
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: I just keep giving him, I keep giving him something

479
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: new that he didn't know about my character. Every time

480
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: we go on camera, I try to give him something

481
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: new he didn't know about, y'all you know what I mean.

482
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: So I say, I still say that TV gives you

483
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: more of a chance to expand the character because you

484
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: get more. You get more at Banced Right, you get

485
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: more at Bance Right movie. They said, cut moving on.

486
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: You can't go back to the god. I want to

487
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: say this so bad, right, So okay, you got we

488
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 1: got movie, we got TV, and then we have animation.

489
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: So obviously animation, you're in a film studio. I mean

490
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 1: you're in the studio, You're in a booth. There's nobody

491
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: else around. Because let me tell people's story on American Dad.

492
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: When they did American Dad, they were going to actually

493
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: have you to do me. I was gonna. I was

494
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: resually schedule and you were gonna do me. And then

495
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: they came because because no one knew why. They knew me,

496
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: but they didn't know if I would actually do the

497
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: do the voice over. So what they called me. I

498
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: was like, well, if I don't do it, who are

499
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: you gonna have to do the voice over me? They said,

500
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: J JB. Smooth and so at the time I didn't

501
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: really know who you work, and that was that was

502
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: probably like, oh, a decade ago. So I goog with you. Yeah,

503
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: I was like okay. Then I pulled up some of

504
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: your stuff. I was like, Okay, he could definitely do it,

505
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: I said, but I can't pass up this opportunity. I

506
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: love voice over work because you can really get animated

507
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: because no one sees you in the booth, and so

508
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: you can make your boys ride, you can make it fall,

509
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: you can have a cadence. It is. I love. I

510
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: love that you strike me as a guy that loves that. Also, no,

511
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: I when I tell you one day, well, I'm saying

512
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: I was doing a radio show, and sometimes the radio

513
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: guys they'll they'll pull your IMDb up right, and the

514
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: guys just ran down some stuff that I told you forgot.

515
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: I did I to forgot. But the animated world is

516
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: so fun. You know. Of course, I've done the Black

517
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: Dynamite stuff. I've done American Dad. You know, I've done

518
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: the Simpsons, I've done Smurfs, I've done I'm in the

519
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: Holly Quinn series right now. Uh, with the Holly Quinn

520
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: animated Mascles. Man I under I'm under so much that

521
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: I get in there and I visualize, Like when I'm

522
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: in the booth, I just close my eyes and I

523
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: just visualize what I need to do. And like you said,

524
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: the Cadence and all those things, you gotta be in

525
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: that booth. You gotta really embody that animated character because

526
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: I gotta bring him to life. You gotta bring you

527
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: gotta have all those emotions, all those things going on.

528
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: You gotta hit it, hit it, hit it, because that

529
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: determines the next person. And it's now. I have been

530
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: in the rooms when I was doing Ninja Turtles, Like

531
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: Ninja Turtles, I played Bebop and Ninja Turtles and animated

532
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: show Nickelodeon. Now that right there. Sometimes will be in

533
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: the same room together. Okay, myself and rock Steady will

534
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: be in the same room together. But a lot of times, yes,

535
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: just you buy yourself in the script seventy pipers at

536
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: the time. I'm a boy myself, So I gotta still

537
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: I gotta still match the energy right as if as

538
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: if he was there. Correct, and you're you're right. You

539
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: gotta you have to hit the emotion, the tats. You

540
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: gotta hit all these little things that that's gonna bring

541
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: that character, animated character to life without someone being around,

542
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: because you know when you shoot it a live where

543
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: you shooting a live movie scene, you got the other character,

544
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: you got someone to play off up. You know, you're

545
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: playing with a team. That's one thing, but then you

546
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: got playing one on one, but you're playing by yourself.

547
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: It ain't no nobody, there's no one. There's really no

548
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: one to play off of. It's kind of like when

549
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: you it's kind of like them, damn kick this boy.

550
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: If you're down by the one point two points and

551
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: you got to pick a walk out there, Nobody look

552
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: at him, nobody talk to nobody didn't remember. He gotta

553
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: he gotta get his own energy up, and he gotta

554
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: he gotta sent to himself and figure a way. He

555
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: gotta see that ball already went through. He gotta pretend

556
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: the ball I went through already. He gotta pretend that

557
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: this already happened already, right, I took a step back

558
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: in time. I already kicked your thing already. We already

559
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: win the game. My math physical body is already in

560
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: the locker room. I'm already in the shower. This game

561
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: fit over. Do you remember, what's one of your most

562
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: rememberable memorable auditions? Oh, the one, the one I think

563
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 1: about the most is a matter of fact, I just

564
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: posted myself and being an auditional Larry. So I'm not

565
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: first time meeting Larry uh in that audition I posted,

566
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: and I tell you, I tell you, I'll tell you

567
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: a little bit backstory on it. So I was at SNL,

568
00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: working at SNL three seasons. My fourth season I didn't renewed,

569
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: so I was free as a bird. So the time

570
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: I didn't get on my fourth season on SR, now

571
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: to the time when I walked in the room for

572
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: audition with Larry for curb be talking about maybe two

573
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: months maybe two months, So I had already had already

574
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: didn't get me nude. I had already fired my old agent, fired,

575
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: I've got rid of everybody. Every every day my body

576
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: was gone because I you know, I just wanted to

577
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: clean slate and just see what I can do. I'm

578
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: not behind the camera anymore writing on sl Now I'm

579
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: back in front of stuff, so let me get my

580
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: butt out there. Came to my wife had already told

581
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: me I was gonna be on S ANDL. She already said,

582
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: you're Gonna. I could see you and Larry together. I

583
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but I see it. You

584
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: always say crazy stuff and Larry say crazy stuff. And

585
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: I could see all working together one day and long,

586
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I was on the

587
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: road in Atlanta and I got a phone call that

588
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: one of my buddies had passed away. Og I know you.

589
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure you probably know og Og Pierce. He produced

590
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: the song this is how we do it for myself, Jordans.

591
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: He produced that song. That's how I do is it?

592
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: This is how I do? It's how you know. This

593
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: is how we do it. So I came to LA

594
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: for one day, one day to pay my respects for him.

595
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: They had a memorial service for I met him when

596
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: I was doing set with The Entertainer Present Sketch Show. Say,

597
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: I mean he was the music guy on that show.

598
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: So I met him there. We became good friends. You know,

599
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: he's produced, so my wife sings. So everything kind of

600
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: worked out and I heard that he had passed. One

601
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: of his friends had called me because the phone had ranged.

602
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 1: My phone rang and I saw his name up there.

603
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm in Atlanta in the hotel room, like my show,

604
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: my show. I just came from my show, map back

605
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: and my phone rang. I saw Og on my phone.

606
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: I saw all answering the phone, and a woman was

607
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: on the phone and she said, hey, j b this

608
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: is a friend of OG's. But I wanted to call you.

609
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: Let you know. Og passed And I'm like, oh man,

610
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: you know so I said. I said, oh man, my buddy.

611
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: You know. So I came to LA for that one

612
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: day and I had just signed with a new agent

613
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: in New York who also had an office in LA.

614
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: So I get in. I said, you know what, while

615
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm in town for one day, you know the Memorial

616
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: services tonight. So I got here early. I said I'm

617
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: gonna go say hi to my new agent. I go

618
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: in there and said how to my new agent to

619
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: meet them? And then an agent comes in late and said,

620
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: hey man, howld on you in town? I said, I

621
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: leave tomorrow. When came in for one day because my

622
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: buddy passed away, and said, oh, I'm gonna I got

623
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,239
Speaker 1: an audition here. I said I was supposed to four

624
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: and he said curbe enthusiasm. So I was like wow.

625
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: Immediately I thought, I said, damn, that's crazy. I said,

626
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm only in town for one day, become a buddy

627
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: passed away. My wife told me I was gonna be

628
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: on Kurby Enthusia as on one day as Snail didn't

629
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: resign me for my fourth season. So if any one

630
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: of those three things had not happened, I would have

631
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: never been on Curbe Enthusiasm one. If I got if

632
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: I got renewed, I would have been sitting behind the

633
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: desk still typing jokes on that sam. My wife told

634
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: me I was gonna be on the shelf if my

635
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Speaker 1: buddy didn't pass away. Even if he didn't pass away,

636
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Speaker 1: that that those few days earlier, you know what I mean,

637
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Speaker 1: I still wouldn't have been in town. You know what

638
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Speaker 1: I mean, I still would have been here. And then

639
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Speaker 1: I came to town. That was probably my you know,

640
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: because I'm making the point. Here's where I do it

641
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Speaker 1: on dishes. I don't talk everybody to do this, but

642
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Speaker 1: don't be afraid to try this, all the young actors

643
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: out there. I always walk into the room as the character.

644
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Speaker 1: I don't I feel I feel like I got a

645
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Speaker 1: sight start in a car on a cold day. If

646
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Speaker 1: you walk in there, you walk outside your car cold

647
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: like I'm not talking about the new car. The new

648
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Speaker 1: car got the the fueling jection, all that stuff. I'm

649
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Speaker 1: talking about. You know what I'm talk about, Sharon, it's

650
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Speaker 1: you gonna you gotta pump the gas a little bit,

651
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Speaker 1: pump the gas. So uh, you know, I don't like

652
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: pumping the gas when I walk into the room, I

653
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: don't like introduce myself and then all of a sudden,

654
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: I gotta turn on the character. It's a weird transition,

655
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Speaker 1: right you already character man. I like to be that dude,

656
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Speaker 1: and I had to be that dude when I'm sitting

657
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: down waiting to go end. So by time I walk

658
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Speaker 1: in and I'm already I'm a I'm walk in the

659
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: room as my character already, I'm ready to go. I

660
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: say ship, I say stuff that the character would say.

661
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: Immediately I jump. I just jump right in it. You

662
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I made. I like to control.

663
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Speaker 1: I to drive a car. I'm not I'm a terrible

664
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Speaker 1: I'm not a good passenger. I like to drive. I

665
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Speaker 1: like to drive the car a little bit. You know,

666
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Speaker 1: let me drive a little bit. I'll let you drive,

667
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Speaker 1: but I'll tell you. I'll tell you when I you know,

668
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Speaker 1: I'll get out the car and walk around of the

669
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Speaker 1: side and get in the passing the side and you

670
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Speaker 1: slide over. You mentioned, go ahead, I'm sorry, but you mentioned.

671
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Speaker 1: Is it every comedian's dream to be on SML, to write,

672
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: be in front of the camera, because it's launched a

673
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: lot of people's career and it seems to me that's

674
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Speaker 1: one of the launching points for for greatest success now.

675
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: And from what I've heard, it's not easy to be

676
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: on there for a length of time. To mean, anybody

677
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Speaker 1: can do it for a year, but to do it

678
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Speaker 1: for a year after year and then walk away on

679
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Speaker 1: your terms, Yeah, yeah, it's a. It's a. It's a.

680
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: It's a it's definitely not easy. And you know, and

681
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: when you're writing on when you're writing those sketches every week,

682
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: you know what it's like this, It's like it's like

683
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: trying out for the Chilian team every damn week, right know.

684
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: They even remember how they would put you know, uh,

685
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Speaker 1: a list of who made the team, the paper stick

686
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Speaker 1: to the wall. Yeah, you gotta go up to everybody

687
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: crowded around trying to see if you made your name

688
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Speaker 1: your name Okay, okay, you're hoping it's not an I

689
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Speaker 1: better order that maybe it's not an A better order.

690
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Speaker 1: I don't say my name yet, you know, right when

691
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Speaker 1: you try to find your name, like oh man, and

692
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: it's like every week when you submit those jokes, those scripts,

693
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: and you pray you get it, you pray you get

694
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Speaker 1: one picked. Man, I'm telling something I got. I probably

695
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: count on one hand how many in three years how

696
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Speaker 1: many I got picked up. But I ain't gonna another.

697
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Speaker 1: Forget my ass around that one. I'll tell you that much.

698
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm always make a presence, you know what

699
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Speaker 1: I mean. You ain't another say they be ain't working hard?

700
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: You know, never say Jay be and show up for me.

701
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Speaker 1: You've another say, you know, because when I got there,

702
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Speaker 1: I had to I had to like do my New

703
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Speaker 1: York I had to do my New York hospital. I

704
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: was writing on the show. I did warm up on

705
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: the show for two years, two seasons I did. I

706
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: was in sketches all the time, right, They put me

707
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: in monologus all the time at the opening of the show.

708
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Speaker 1: So that's a writer. That's three jobs already as a writer,

709
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Speaker 1: numbout four. I have four jobs. So Colon O'Brien was

710
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: still at NBC at that time, Colan Brian found out

711
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: I was working upstairs as a writer, and we had

712
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Speaker 1: worked together before. He called come on, Brian eleven damn times.

713
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: Probably while I was working as a writer upstairs. It

714
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: would call Lauren Michaels and say, hey, can we borrow

715
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Speaker 1: JB for a sketch? I would get He said, He'll

716
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Speaker 1: call my offense, say JB. We got a coden call.

717
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Speaker 1: You wanted to know if you wanted to come downstairs

718
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Speaker 1: and do a sketch, Go down there, do the sketch,

719
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Speaker 1: come back up and finish in his writings. All right, cool,

720
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Speaker 1: I get an elevator, go down there, I do a

721
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: damn sketch with colder. Go back upstairs, get behind the computer,

722
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Speaker 1: keep working. So I was blessed. I was blessed. That's

723
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Speaker 1: and sharing. That's foul checks, right, that's full separate checks. Fo.

724
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Speaker 1: They gotta pay you for doing every last one or

725
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: four things. So it's not like TV. It's not like

726
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: really TV. Now like okay, okay, you pay me to

727
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Speaker 1: do this show. But if I feel it to do

728
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Speaker 1: somebody else show, that's for free. If I do somebody

729
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: else radio gig, that's free. And if I do something,

730
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Speaker 1: something that's for free to you getting vote, checked, vote,

731
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Speaker 1: every job you get played. But it's individual thing you do.

732
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Speaker 1: Everything you do. Hate. They called me Ola car Smooth.

733
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at your resume, Smooth. I look at some

734
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Speaker 1: of the people you Comedians, Chris Rock, Kevin Hard, Adam Sandler,

735
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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Larry David sand They entertained the Tracy Morgan,

736
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Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld, Marlon Ways, whoop with Goldberg. When you guys

737
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Speaker 1: look like when you guys get together, is it is

738
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Speaker 1: it joke telling all the time? Part of the time,

739
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: none of the time. I'm gonna tell you something. Each

740
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Speaker 1: one of those names you mentioned, every last person you

741
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Speaker 1: just said, shows up who you think they are. They

742
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Speaker 1: show up as who you think who you know them

743
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: to be. Right. That's how this is over the hell up.

744
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: And that's what makes that's what makes every last one

745
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: of those people your name so unique. It's like everyone

746
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: brings something to the table and you get like, let's

747
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: take the movie Top five, Chris that Chris Rock, everybody, man,

748
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: hear everybody in that damn movie. Let me tell you something, man,

749
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: you so upset. Everybody is exactly who the hell you

750
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Speaker 1: you want them to be you know, one thing about,

751
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: one thing about and when we when we when we

752
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: at that level, you meet someone bigger than you, like

753
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: someone up there, yet you want them to be who

754
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: you hope they are. Right. The worst thing for a person,

755
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: the worst thing of a person to meet their heroes

756
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: or meet someone and they ain't who they thought they was. Oh, man,

757
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: you'd be like god, damn man, and they break your heart, man,

758
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: and break your heart to the point you're like, God, damn,

759
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: I ain't want to I ain't want that. It happened.

760
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: I thought they was somebody else. Man. But blessing, but

761
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: blessed that Chris pulled together some amazing uh comedians and man,

762
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: it's flawless, and and he allowed everyone to do them.

763
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: That's the key to an actor, as a key to

764
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: a comedian, is for you to get these opportunities that

765
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Speaker 1: they allow you to do you and bring and let

766
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Speaker 1: you do exactly what they brung you on the project

767
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: to do. You know, and they've been and that's how.

768
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Speaker 1: That's a good director, that's a good show runner, that's

769
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Speaker 1: a good producer. That is what you need at your

770
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: disposed or to make it whatever you're writing come to life.

771
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: Because I always think about like this, you know, I

772
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: always try to show up and always try to make

773
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: I question the director. I questioned the producers, what exactly

774
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: do you need from me? Right? What exactly do you

775
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: need from me? You know what I mean? And I

776
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: need to know that clearly so I don't step on

777
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Speaker 1: the tolls so I don't burn no bridges. Is this

778
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Speaker 1: is this his scene? Or am I a part of

779
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: the scene and my and my am my pitching him,

780
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: my fastballing him. What am I doing in this scene?

781
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: You know? So that I don't mess up whatever you

782
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: however you're envision this scene. I want to know so

783
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: I don't I don't mess up whatever you need out

784
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: of it, because that's their you know, Yeah, realize you

785
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: need producers, you need director. That's their thing, that's their dream.

786
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: They always wanted to be that. And the only way

787
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Speaker 1: they don't get that is you give them what they

788
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: are looking for, you know, and and why why and

789
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: why show up? You know and half asked something. That's

790
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: theirs that's their thing, their dream, you know what I mean.

791
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: Their job is to make you look good, and your

792
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: job is to make sure that you give them the

793
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: tools to make you look good. So it's gotta work

794
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: like that. And that's how. That's the only way, you know,

795
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: and and those opportunities. Sometimes you don't get that many

796
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: swings at the ball, right, you don't get that mini,

797
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: you don't get that many swings. Now, black blessings have

798
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Speaker 1: come of a partners that we we've been getting more.

799
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Speaker 1: That's why black people we've been getting more opportunities now

800
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Speaker 1: to to be on camera and also have our own

801
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: shows and stuff. So that's a blessing, you know. But

802
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: sometimes I remember back in the day. Shit, man, I

803
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: don't know few of my buddies who had deals and shit,

804
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: sometimes you get one. Sometimes you get one shot. You

805
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: get one. You one shot. I know people who got shows,

806
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: and some shows lasted two episodes. You know, you're like,

807
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: god dang it, two episodes, man, that's not enough to show. Yeah,

808
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: they'll put a down repeat in your slot at eight pm.

809
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: You're like, god dagg it, whole show on it smooth.

810
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: You got one of your big starts. I believe your

811
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: first start on Depth Comedy Jam, which was probably responsible

812
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: for launching more black comedian's career than probably any other

813
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: you know. The DL Hugh leaves to the Bernie Max,

814
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: the Bruce Bruce, some of the great comedians who have

815
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: gone on to not just do stand up but to

816
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: do television shows, to be in movies, to become leads.

817
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 1: How instrumental was Death Comedy Jam for you and other

818
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: black comedians, men and women, Oh, men and women. Def

819
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: Comedy Jam was. You know, here's another thing I let

820
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: people know all the time is that Def Comedy Jam

821
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: was amazing. But it's kind of like this, It's kind

822
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: of like we have all these there's so there was

823
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: so much going on that no one knew about, you know,

824
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: in the comedy world, in the black comedy world, because

825
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: you know, being from New York, we had this spot

826
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: called the Uptown Comedy Club, Raiding Hallam on one twenty

827
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Speaker 1: fifth Street. Uh. And let me tell you something, man,

828
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: that place, oh my god, man was even before Def

829
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: Comedy Jam, before b Et comed with you, before all that.

830
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Speaker 1: But you you are gonna have these pockets of these

831
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Speaker 1: pockets of comedy clubs or nightclubs that had a comedy night.

832
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Speaker 1: We had, Man, we would be busy. Let's say something.

833
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Speaker 1: We worked like every every night in New York. Because

834
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Speaker 1: it was a metropolitan area. You could be in Connecticut, Queens, Brooklyn,

835
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: the Bronx, Westchester, you could be in Jersey. That's six

836
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: different burrows that you can easily be in and you

837
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Speaker 1: could probably do if you hustle. You got a nice

838
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Speaker 1: a car that run, you don't probably do two or

839
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Speaker 1: three a night if you really want, if you really

840
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: got the hustle right, And this is before def Comedy Jam,

841
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Speaker 1: before b et, before entity shows. You're talking about you

842
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Speaker 1: had to have a something had to light it, you know,

843
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: something had to light that fuse to slow burn. But

844
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: by the time you know, the explosion, the black comedy

845
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: hit hit, this plateau, the death comedy jams, the bat

846
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: comic views, they you got realized you can't have all

847
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: those comedians. You're talking about a lot of damn comedians,

848
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah da coming. Then they had to come from somewhere,

849
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They had to come from somewhere.

850
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: And you're talking about every major city in the United

851
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: States had these funny, unique comedians all around the country.

852
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: That death Comedy Jam could grab and say, hey, we

853
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: got a platform for you. This is gonna be perfect

854
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: with everybody. Everybody's gonna be able to shine and do

855
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: their thing. Man we got Martin Lawrence hosting it. I got,

856
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: I got, I got blessed. Man. I was on the

857
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: second taping of the first season. I was so happy, man,

858
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: to be able to get on that show and tell

859
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: you something. That audition process wasn't no joke. And you

860
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: talk about back then, man, you talk about you talk

861
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: about cats fighting for positions. Let tell you something, man,

862
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: that thing became. It became. I'm telling you something, man.

863
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: It's kind of like fighting for your three of the

864
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: tight ends tight ends on your team and they're all good,

865
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: and you're like, what can I do different outside of

866
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: knocking one of these dudes out with a damn in pregnant.

867
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: How can I make it sure that's gonna be unique enough.

868
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: I gotta have that intangible that it's gonna bring something

869
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: to the show because my my thing has always been

870
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: make the show amazing. I never think about myself as

871
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: an individual, because it's really not about us. It's about

872
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, when you're doing a stage show, you're doing

873
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: a stand up, it's really about the audience enjoying their

874
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: money's worth and having a good time. I never make

875
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: it about myself, you know, hell, I never make it.

876
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: I make it about I'm making it about myself to

877
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: the point where she I have had nice wins. Shit

878
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: that's went wrong. They went wrong. It went wrong. It

879
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: went wrong, and it's it's a it's a stumble. But

880
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm the first two to claim, you know, and learn

881
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: from everything. So these that Death Comedy Jam was a platform,

882
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: a spring board for everybody. Man, it became it became

883
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: the one show you wanted to get on. You would

884
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: you would do anything to get on that damn show.

885
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: You wanted to watch it too, You wanted to watch it. Hey,

886
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: you know any time death comes down and come on,

887
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: man and I and I was supposed to go out. Man,

888
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: we would sit there right start getting dressed to go

889
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: to the club, but we would make sure we slow

890
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: down a little bit, so we gonna watch Duff Comedy Jam.

891
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: Why are we getting dressed to go to the club.

892
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: And we wait until it went off and then we

893
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: go out and get in the car and go to

894
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: the club. But we had to see death comedies. But

895
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: if it propelled everybody, you everybody, then it propelled everybody.

896
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: And it was like, I cannot explain how amazing that

897
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: time period was that finally we had this this this

898
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: place we could go to and we can all express

899
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: our style, all express our humor, and we all had

900
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: this unique opportunity. And I think I think Russell Simmons

901
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: and and Death Death Jam and Martin and everybody who

902
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: was a part of that, because that is really that

903
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: is the fusee. Is the is the fusee that was

904
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 1: lit to propel all these amazing people you see today. Man,

905
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: there is there is a class of Death Comedy Jam.

906
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 1: There is a unique class of comedience. You know they should.

907
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean, we've had a reunion and we've had a

908
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: attribute show and that kind of stuff. But man, it's

909
00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: just amazing at at how that that show made a

910
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: lot of comedians. Bob something. They're also amazing. He ran

911
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: all the all those all those auditions. Man, Bob was

912
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: a big part of that. Man, He's a big part

913
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: of it. You got all those comedians on board. Right

914
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: When you look at comedians, do most comedians okay, you do,

915
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: you start out doing stand up, but do most comedians

916
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: all comedians? How what percented do you think said, you

917
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: know what, I want to graduate to TV, I want

918
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: to graduate to movies. Is that or just some people

919
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: just like you know stand up with my gig. I

920
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 1: want to do stand up because it was like once Eddie,

921
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: once Eddie was Edie, Eddie Murphy obviously I'm talking about

922
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: Murphy once he graduated from stand up and started doing

923
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: did you know movies? Yeah, I think he's gonna do

924
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: another Netflix special, But he went totally away. You see

925
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: Jared Seinfeld, he had a TV. He went back a

926
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: lot of people. Kevin Hart, does he comes back? Chris

927
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: Rock did movies? Comes back? Is it is it that

928
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: you okay? Once you do you always want to come

929
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: back because you know some guys come back. Some guys don't.

930
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: Let me say something. Stand up if your stand up

931
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: will always be the bread and butter of any comic.

932
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: It's just what it is. Here's what the benefits you

933
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: get out of doing stand up this TV. If you

934
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: do shoot TV. On TV, you gotta shoot stuff. You

935
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: gotta shoot stuff. They gotta package it, they gotta put

936
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: do post. You gotta eric movies. You gotta shoot the movie.

937
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: You gotta be okay, you gotta do all that stuff.

938
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: You gotta do all this mess. When it comes to movies, movies, movie, movie, movies.

939
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes you won't see a movie shiit eight nine sometime

940
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: a year by the time you see that damn movie,

941
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: and i'ma tell you something. Even as an actor, a

942
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: lot of times you grow in those eight nine months, right,

943
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: majority and majority of a time you don't like the

944
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: movie because you sit there like thine that I'm a

945
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: better actor a year later than I was when I

946
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: shot that damn movie. Okay, you know what I'm saying,

947
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: So we so you have to yeah. And then and

948
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: then there are comedians who are totally satisfied with being

949
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: stand ups and could care less about moves and TV.

950
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: Here's the thing you get out of doing stand up

951
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: stand up. That's why I compare it to TV and film.

952
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: You might not see that moves for a year. TV

953
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 1: you gotta do all that work, shoot all these damned episodes.

954
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: You know, time people see it stand up, you get

955
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: a chance to be in the moment. It's instantaneous. You

956
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: walk on that damn stage. You can perform. You got

957
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: people laughing their ass all. They can touch you after

958
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: they show, you can hug them. They can tell you, oh,

959
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: I needed that so much, thinking so much, I needed

960
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: that last In the moment, you can get in your car,

961
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: you can go home. You can drive home. My damn,

962
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: that was that was a good show. You feel it

963
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: on your skin in the moment it is you, It

964
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: is there, that just happened you. In the moment you

965
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: felt it, they felt it. It was a great time.

966
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: They're talking about you right now while you're driving home.

967
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: They're driving home talking about you because they had a

968
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: good time TV film. Man, you can tell people all

969
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: you want, Man, what this movie coming out. We're gonna

970
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: come out, man, about nine months, about nine months, man,

971
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: But it's good. It's good. Right. So that's why people thirst.

972
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: They thirst to get back. They want that immediate they walk,

973
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: they walk that instant gratify that instant. That's that instant rush.

974
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: It's not I'm gonna get that in nine months or

975
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: a year. I'm getting that right now. I'm getting that

976
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: that you for you. I'm getting that high right now.

977
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: Oh man, you got it right there. Man, you got

978
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,959
Speaker 1: that rate in the moment. Man, It's like, oh man,

979
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: we all were there in this timeline. We were there.

980
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: We did it. You know what I mean. The show

981
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: us great, all of us, all the whole show us good.

982
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: Look at it. Everybody did great tonight. The crowd had

983
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: a good time. Oh it works, it works. Man. If

984
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: giving y'all giving your mount Rushmore of comedians, ooh man,

985
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: and you know what they're mount Rushmore. So we can't

986
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: do we can't do no time. We only got fourth move,

987
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: we only got fourth five? Now are you basing it on? Here?

988
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: Asks you? Are you basing it on? Impact? In my life?

989
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: Are you're basing it on? You? Know how even in

990
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: the top five, everybody had their different opinions, right who

991
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: the best rappers were? The best? The best? Who the

992
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: best to hip hop? Do it? Everybody had an opinion

993
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: because you gotta go by what touches you. And if

994
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm based if I'm based it on see, I'm inspired

995
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: by so many different things. You basing it on whatever

996
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: you want your criteria to be. I want to know

997
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: what smooth top. I want to know smooth mount rushmore comedians?

998
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: So you basically have you are impact? Who have me laughing?

999
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: Whatever the check made me? See, I'm like, I'm like

1000
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson to his wife, say, styles make fights for me. Right,

1001
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: you ask Mike Tyson about boxing, hes gonna break down

1002
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: why and he gonna get your all the little nuances

1003
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: of what the sweet. Science is all about right, right.

1004
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: You know there's guys who lost fights to me who

1005
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: I still consider the greatest. Right, some of the greatest

1006
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: boxers to me lost They ain't undefeated, but they lost,

1007
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: but they still don't get classified as the greatest. So

1008
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: his wile was saying, damn it, this is hard because

1009
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm hard. I'm a fight fan. See, I'm a fight fan. Okay,

1010
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I can only go by

1011
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: what inspired me in my movement. You know what I mean.

1012
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: And you just come from a who was inspired by music,

1013
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: who was inspired by comedy, who was inspired by anything

1014
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: and everything birds, I'm inspired by everything you can think

1015
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: of outdoors. I'm inspired by personalities, by people, So science,

1016
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: the stars, astrology. Oh so I say this prior, Okay,

1017
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: he would be on my He'll be on my prior.

1018
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: Oh Man, in my in my book Fourth Heart, damn it, Man,

1019
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: Pryor Murphy, I gotta go Murphy. Now, this this is

1020
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: a hard one. People gotta understand this one. I was

1021
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: inspired by Bill Cosby, Okay, but he's why. He's why,

1022
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: his why, I tell people, as a as a asterisk

1023
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 1: on it, you cannot if everybody had to give back

1024
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 1: the inspiration they got from somebody because that person didn't

1025
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: live up to it, or something happens. They got heavily flawed, right,

1026
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: and that person's flawed. Now, think about this, if you

1027
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: had to give all that back, you know what, the

1028
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: dust of you, it drops you down because something about

1029
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: them inspired you in that moment, right, and you're upbringing

1030
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: in your career. That helped you propel you to grab

1031
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: that microphone and start opening your mouth. And they say,

1032
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: of the job is grabbing the microphone, right, just like you, guys,

1033
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: you put a uniform on. You gotta have the guts

1034
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: to put that uniform on, and waking that field before that,

1035
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: before that kickoff, you got you already half right there,

1036
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: you're already here. You showed up. Now you got another

1037
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: fifty percent to do to win the damn game and

1038
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: put money on the ass or whatever. So I say

1039
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: those three right now. This is a hard one because

1040
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: I love me some Fox. I love me some Red Fox. Man.

1041
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm telling you Red Fox is to me,

1042
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: whoa that that particular style? Right, It's hilarious. He had

1043
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: the party albums, all the good stuff. I'm gonna tell

1044
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: another guy, but it's hard because he's too close to

1045
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: my age. Chris Rock his he had a run of

1046
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: full specials and I get I dare you to put

1047
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: him in order to the best of each one those

1048
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: specials that Chris Rock did. He that rapid fire Chris

1049
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: Rock when he won a roll and he's banging a

1050
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: microphones and walking back and forth across that stage. Come on, man,

1051
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: and nobody that ain't nobody gonna boo boom boom boom

1052
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: boom boom walking to you. But I'm singing and Chris

1053
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: walcome back and forth, hitting you with the toss salad

1054
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: and all of them jumps. Come on, man, sharing it.

1055
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: You cannot beat that pace. You can't even keep up.

1056
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: You can't keep up with it because you're like, God, damn,

1057
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: this dude shooting the shit out of me. He's shooting.

1058
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: He's shooting me with these jumps. I'm like, oh, I can't.

1059
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: I can't even keep my balance. Man, Like he's too

1060
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: close and aids to me, he's reachable. He I can

1061
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: grab him right now. You're a friend of mine. I

1062
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: love him, I love him. I would love him to

1063
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: be up there, but I gotta go see Chrismas in

1064
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: the round. I didn't know Chris when I first had

1065
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: in my mind I wanted to do this, you know

1066
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. I never stopped them on stage before.

1067
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: But it's one guy. I feel like he was a

1068
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: big All these guys were a big part of mine

1069
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: and I needed these styles. I said, styles make fights.

1070
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: I needed a balance of all four of these guys

1071
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: in order for me to get the courage to walk

1072
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: on stage and grab that microphone. Right. So, I feel like,

1073
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: as far as stand up, I gotta add my man,

1074
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: George Colin, because all I can think about in this

1075
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: moment is George Colin was so all these comedians are

1076
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: very outspoken in their way. Every that's one of them.

1077
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: Different errors, but very very very very very outspoken. Now

1078
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: I can only imagine what George Colin would do with

1079
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: this ship show we got going on in the world today.

1080
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he would have a fucking field day sharing it. Yeah,

1081
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: he would have a no. He would take this stuff

1082
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: and he would mangle it. He will mangle what's going

1083
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: on in the world today. That was his style. That

1084
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: was his thing, you know, outspoken, a poignant, all the

1085
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: things you can think of. This dude he could find

1086
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: a way to make you look so stupid and you're thinking,

1087
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: and the things you are making important in your life,

1088
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: the things that the government is doing. He would take

1089
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: every half and stuff he said in his last special

1090
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: happened and the man is dead. The man had been

1091
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: gone right. Half and stuff he said, and happy stuff

1092
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: he's been saying it all his special is happening. After

1093
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: claimsy part, you look at him like damn. He knew.

1094
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: He knew stuff about human nature that you can that

1095
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: only certain kinds of certain comedians can take it take

1096
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: human nature. Some some of very storytellers was prior, you know, storytellers.

1097
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: Eddie Murph was very uh. I say, he's uh, he can.

1098
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: He would talk about almost anything. But when he starts

1099
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: talking about his family and different things like that, Oh

1100
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: oh Eddie and killing yeah, yeah, you're dying, you know,

1101
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: bunny And he has him he has stuff relationship stuff

1102
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: to kill you kill you know what I mean? These

1103
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: are and calls me he's sitting there. He's sitting he's

1104
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: sitting down. He sat down on a chair and paint them.

1105
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: He'll paint pictures and tell your stories and paint pictures. Man,

1106
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: How do you not? He sit there like these damn styles,

1107
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: all these styles, how you know, and you're sitting and

1108
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: not one of them is alike each and one of

1109
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: these guys that is completely different. You couldn't even pu

1110
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: him in a ring together because you couldn't tell who

1111
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: wins you. When I look at and I think you

1112
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: left Chappelle off because Chappelle is your age, he's a

1113
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: peer of yours. I can't. I can't. I knew days

1114
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: when he was fifteen. When you walk on stage, I'm

1115
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: twenty something, he was fifteen waiting to go waiting to

1116
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: go on stage in the same club, right you know.

1117
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, Chappelle is my man right now.

1118
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: If they was to right now, he is definitely so

1119
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: he can right now who he is the king right now.

1120
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: There is no king right now other than Dave Chappelle.

1121
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: He's a king right now. But I gotta go about

1122
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: what inspired me that little fifty year old boy who's

1123
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: waiting the gold stage in the Comic Cup. He didn't

1124
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: inspire me in my in my upcoming right right, he

1125
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: was just he was another another kid, an a kid

1126
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: starting now who watching us, and you know who was

1127
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: amazing a young age. But he he I was already

1128
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: on my you're seeing right right, Yeah, exactly. I can't say,

1129
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, had I started today, I would say, shit,

1130
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta do Chappelle up in there, because

1131
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: I'll be starting today. So let me ask you a question.

1132
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: Robin Harris, was I think he was on the sin

1133
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: before he lost he died? Burnie Mack is still one

1134
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: of my favorites. You know what, after I've listened to

1135
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: him a couple of times. You know who I like

1136
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: Seinfeld and I didn't. I didn't watch his show, and

1137
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't a big Seinfeld watcher, but I've listened to

1138
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: some of his things. I can get down with Seinfeld. See.

1139
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: I think for me, when I hear Prior and I

1140
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: hear red Fox, and I hear some of these other guys,

1141
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: that's relatable to me because that's how we talk about community.

1142
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,439
Speaker 1: I can relate that. You know what I'm saying. It's

1143
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: like it's like a a food. Did you talk about armstail,

1144
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: you talk about neck bone, you talk about saying just

1145
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: that thing I can relate to. So when someone talks

1146
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: about cooking that, okay, I get that. I don't always

1147
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: relate to some of the other comedians that are outside

1148
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: of my demographic and but you know, you know what

1149
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, smooth. I know that. See, here's the thing,

1150
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: here's the thing, here's the thing that that's gonna put

1151
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: that in the nutshell. Back when Blockbuster was open, right right,

1152
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: I was. I was walking around blockbustering right and I

1153
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: realized something. I said. I think I told my wife this,

1154
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: I said, baby, do you realize that we can walk

1155
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: in Blockbuster and we can rent anything in here? Could

1156
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: we get it? We can rent anything in this damn Blockbuster,

1157
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: take it home, put it in and get it. Because

1158
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: we have to understand everybody. We have to. It's just

1159
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: a nature of what it is. Right. As a black person,

1160
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: we gotta understand all we gotta understand all this right.

1161
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: But white people can't walk in Blockbuster and just grab

1162
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: Friday right. Ain't gonna get it, baby boy, Oh hell no,

1163
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna get it right, the right stuff. They're

1164
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: gonna be afraid to laugh right that stuff because they

1165
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: ain't gonna know what what what this shot? Because they

1166
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: ain't gonna get it. They don't understand it, hop hearted

1167
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: nothing saying it. Come on, man, you can't get that.

1168
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: You can't get that as a gift for somebody. You know,

1169
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: your white friends, your he direct party, Lenna ask you this.

1170
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: Okay you're doing You're doing a show and one of

1171
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: these other guys walk in. They might be before you,

1172
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: they might be after you. I know when you go

1173
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: to obsoult the All Star Game, when you let's just

1174
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: take basketball All Star Game. You know guys want to show. Okay,

1175
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: step kurr you shooting up. I can make three two,

1176
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: I can make local. Gree to it. Okay, the brun

1177
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: you want the dunk, I can dunk too. Are you

1178
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: in secretly competition? Because I remember when I used to run.

1179
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: I go to the gym. I'm at a treadmill. You

1180
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: might not think it, but you're racing me, bru, don't

1181
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: didn't worry about it. Don't if if what's what's known,

1182
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be spoken. But we're racing, you know.

1183
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you're trying to tweet ten. I'm going to eleven.

1184
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: You're going twitter. I'm going thirteen. You know, were when

1185
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: you going thirteen thousand, Step I'm going fifteen. Were racing?

1186
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: So are you in competition against that guy at the club?

1187
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: I am not but that persons in competition with me,

1188
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: that's the bad part, and that that's the part that

1189
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: is sad on some levels. So yeah, it's sad. But

1190
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: we as much as we give to our audiences the

1191
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: inner workings of it, you know, it can get a

1192
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: little you know, it gets a little messy sometimes, you know,

1193
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: especially coming up doing coming up. But it is what

1194
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: it is. If you know, if you got a bunch

1195
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: of cats in the circus and they all can walk

1196
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: on the tight rope real good with the chair and

1197
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: thinking back, they got all got good balance. If we

1198
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: all do the same thing, you gotta be able to

1199
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: do something something that I can't do, to set yourself apart.

1200
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. So that particular guy can walk

1201
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: from that tight rope. He got that chair, he got

1202
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, he can put that chair, one leg of

1203
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: that chair on that rope. Right, it's sitting there down,

1204
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: he's sitting there himself out. Everybody looking at him like,

1205
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: oh man, he's just showing out now. But I guarantee

1206
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: you one of them other guys still that and they're

1207
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: gonna try to do it. They're the same damn thing.

1208
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: So the race, the race, a race only comes into play.

1209
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: If two people agree that it's a race, you know,

1210
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: one guy might not even knows a race. But you

1211
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: you hauling ass? Should you hauling ass? I'm just running,

1212
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: but you're on but somehow you haul on the ass

1213
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: so hard. But we still stide by side, still still.

1214
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: But you're working, You're working hard, working hard. But I'm

1215
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: just like, I'm like striding, I'm just slyding. I'm just

1216
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: striding out. You were like you like, you're like, I'm running,

1217
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: you hauling ass? You know what I mean? So I

1218
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: say that because there are are people who are motivated

1219
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: by your you know, more by more by your failure,

1220
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: and that's it is the nature. And I think in

1221
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: this world of social media, you see more of of

1222
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: the character people come out, you know, and I think,

1223
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, everything's more out front now, you know. I

1224
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:24,799
Speaker 1: think it's almost it's almost cool to hate. It's almost

1225
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: cool to make it a competition. It's almost cool because

1226
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: to prepare yourself to everybody all the time, it's almost too.

1227
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: It's almost cool to boast, it's almost cool to do

1228
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: all these things, which is terrible. But we've had we

1229
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: have somehow landed in this in this climate. But you know,

1230
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: some people think you you're racing them, and yet you're not.

1231
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: You're just you know, you can only do you, you know,

1232
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 1: And that's why I say, I think when I said

1233
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: at the top, I said, man, I'm so content, man,

1234
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: and I'm so happy and blessed to have longevity. Thirty

1235
01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: years in the game, have longevity, have still have patients

1236
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: still willing to learn. You know, I learned every day

1237
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: in this in this uh, in this, in this, in

1238
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: this standard world, in this acting world, in this world

1239
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: that you know, constantly evolving, right, you know, constantly. The

1240
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: comedian has to evolve with the times because we are

1241
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: to be able to make it relatable to what we're

1242
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: talking about. Because the thing is that, because you remember

1243
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: back in the day everything kind of went. You can

1244
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: make jokes about people's orientation, you can make jokes about

1245
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: people's race and religion. Where that was acceptable, then that's

1246
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: really not acceptable now. Even though comedians are supposed to

1247
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: push the boundaries, so you have to be careful. You

1248
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: have to evolve with the evolving and the changing of

1249
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: the times. That's difficult. It you know what it is.

1250
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: It has always been a part of the comedian. It

1251
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: has always been there is. It's never gone be something different.

1252
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 1: It has always been there is. Actually what we have

1253
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: to deal with constantly is uh being PC and and

1254
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 1: you know we've always had to deal with that. But

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01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: you realize, you know, like like like like uh like Eddie,

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01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, you can't pull up those old albums. You

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01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 1: know you have to. You gotta almost admit you were

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01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 1: thinking different back then. You always gotta come out, you know,

1259
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: you gotta almost say yourself. You can't allow them to

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01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: pull your albums up and start to dissect it. You

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01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 1: gotta say, you know what, man that era, that time period,

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01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: who we got away with so much? Yeah, anybody who

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01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: in this way and in this time, I gotta say, hey,

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01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: that was that was that was that was early years stuff.

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01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: I've had some chances in comedy, but people, you know what,

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01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: people loved it at the times were different. Of course,

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01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: I would never do any of those things nowadays because

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01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 1: it just doesn't fit the times, you know. And I

1269
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 1: would never you know, degrade or same thing bad about

1270
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 1: women or or you know, or or your gender. You know,

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01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: it's just you know, I'll take this a good example.

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01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:20,560
Speaker 1: So I I had I had to pull up my

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01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: old my old comedics comedy uh special. And I was like, man,

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01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: so this is a bit I used to do. People

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01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: used to love it. So think about police officers right right?

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01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: And I was sitting there and do this whole run

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01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 1: on Uh. I talked about how you know and at

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01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: living in LA, everybody's always running from the police. You know,

1279
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: these high spit all you see in these high speed

1280
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: car chases all the time. I said, man, and these

1281
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, I said, and police officers it's like years ago,

1282
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: but police like five years ago. But police officers, you know,

1283
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: would get mad because when you when they blow your

1284
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: ties out, they supposed spike stripped down and bring your time.

1285
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: You get got the car and start running. And it's

1286
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: a whole fifteen minute bit about how once you got

1287
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: the car and start running, a police officer get mad

1288
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: as hell because he got all that shit on that

1289
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 1: belt and I got and I put everything on the

1290
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: belt you could think of. But it's all about you know,

1291
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: how you know, uh, criminals and police officers. Now. Back then,

1292
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: Oh cool, the joke was relevant because people would do

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01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: run a lot in La. They run. They love to

1294
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: run out here. You know, they would have a cop

1295
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 1: chasing them all day. They had to took the car,

1296
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 1: run out of gas. And you're trying to watch TV.

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01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: You put those chases on TV out here, you oh yeah,

1298
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: and you run out. You you be mad because they

1299
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: interrupt your TV show. You'd be like, yeah, I can't

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01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: watch nothing out here, you know. You like, man, they

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01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: would interrupt anything out here in La. I said, they

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01:12:55,360 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: would interrupt the damn DVD. They were damn So I

1303
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: bet this whole bit about police chasing people and catching

1304
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: catching you and and and and all this stuff on

1305
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: the belt I talk about they had a they had

1306
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: a gun, taser, bullets, you know, retalyizer that damn a

1307
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: lot of detector, a coffee maker had all this stuff

1308
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: on the belt. And said they'd be mad because they

1309
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 1: got all that mess on the belt. They're chasting you

1310
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: and all that stuff that's checking around and it's stilling

1311
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: coffee and stuff, and man, it's hilarious, right. And then

1312
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: I said, and I said, the damn corp are so mad,

1313
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: you know. And this is I'm gonna tell you. I'm

1314
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: gonna wrap this up at the end, but and I did.

1315
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: I said, when they catch it, they'd be so mad

1316
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 1: at you. I said, that the carp pull his billy

1317
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: club about and he's so mad that you made him

1318
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: chaste you. I said, he hit himself in the back

1319
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: and then he hit you like boom boom, boom boom.

1320
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 1: That's all mad he was at you. Now, that's the

1321
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: times we live in, right, we're talking about we're talking.

1322
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: We talked about how a lot of comedians because we

1323
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: have to make the obvious, we have to make pain,

1324
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: we have to make we have to take whatever's going

1325
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: on in the world, make it relevant because, believe it

1326
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: or not, laughter is the cure for a lot of

1327
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: things that we are going through. And I say this

1328
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: all the time. You if you think there wasn't at

1329
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 1: least one funny slave in the midst of all that,

1330
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: all those plantations, you had to have one dude. You

1331
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: had to have one dude when they finished working on

1332
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: the plantation. You had to have one dude who had

1333
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 1: to take the sting off of what we're going through.

1334
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: And he'll stand on that box, or he'd be telling

1335
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: boy im take something. He'd be talking about the damned

1336
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: slave on us, or he'd be going in on them

1337
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: damn food because they'd be laughing at that's a You

1338
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 1: gotta tight ass, you know what I mean. You have

1339
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: to You have to have that separation of what is,

1340
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: what is happening, and how to deal with it. Right now, Sharon,

1341
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 1: we're going through a terrible time right now, terrible Black

1342
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: lives matter, We're going through a terrible presidential race. We're

1343
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: going through it. We are going twenty you said, people

1344
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: are gonna be saying, manute, that's so twenty twenty of you.

1345
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's gonna come a time sharing it

1346
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: with this climate, this time period, our timeline we are

1347
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: living in right now, It's gonna come a time when

1348
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: the comedian is gonna go on stage and completely clown

1349
01:15:54,720 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Of course, even though even though death, those pandemics,

1350
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: even though police brutality, even though you name it, you

1351
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: name it, you name it the rise of a racial

1352
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: racist groups. You know, even in the midst of all this,

1353
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: you cannot function mentally if all you here is negative,

1354
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: negative negative. You remember when his good example, remember the

1355
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: fifth element. Yeah, now this is this right here might

1356
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: make you cry. Okay, remember fifth element when I forgot

1357
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: her name. But anyway, you know, Bruce Willis had to

1358
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: help the help the girl, the lady, right, And remember

1359
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: she didn't know anything. She didn't know anything. Remember they

1360
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: put somehow she got a hold of some videos or

1361
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: something happened. And remember she was watching it and it

1362
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: was a history. There was a complete history of the world.

1363
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: Remember that. All she saw was she saw every good

1364
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: point and every horrible part of this planet Earth. And

1365
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: she started crying, Sham. That tear was rolling down her

1366
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: face because she just saw in a nutshell everything she

1367
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: needed to find out about who she was, where she

1368
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 1: came from, and how this world is that she's about

1369
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: to come into. And she started crying because it was terrible, terrible.

1370
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,799
Speaker 1: She saw war, she saw famine, she saw she had you, neighbor,

1371
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 1: She saw that all this fact to back, fact to back,

1372
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: fact to back fact. She didn't have time to even

1373
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: process it, and she started crying. No one in their

1374
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: right mind, Shannon, can possibly. People are overwhelmed right now.

1375
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: They overwhelmed. It's impossible for you to constantly have overwhelming

1376
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: situations thrown at you. You're gonna crack. You're gonna crack.

1377
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: And that's when revolution happens. That's when people go out

1378
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: on their own because they feel like there's nothing they

1379
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 1: can lose because they ain't getting nothing out of this.

1380
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna lose their marbles. And you need to have

1381
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: some one to take it, who is who has a

1382
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: stronger will, who has a different mental capacity for pain.

1383
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: And a lot of times comedians can take horrible things

1384
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: that happen in their lives and they find some way

1385
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: suppressing it, writing it, writing it's funny. Whether they had

1386
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: a bad father or a bad mama, or whatever it is,

1387
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: they suppress it. They find a way to impression of

1388
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: their dad or impression of their mom, and it could

1389
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: be undertone, could be the most horrible things ever, but

1390
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: they find some way to make it relatable to you.

1391
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: You sitting in that audience, and you be laughing your

1392
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: ass off because you know that he couldn't be up

1393
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: there telling you the full pain of it. And that's

1394
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 1: going this right here that we are going through right now,

1395
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: somehow has got to go from from this this horrible

1396
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: feeling that we are having two somehow making sense of it.

1397
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 1: And to be the only person w makes sense of

1398
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 1: it is one of these amazing comedians. They're Chappelle or

1399
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 1: whoever is gonna walk on that stage and be as

1400
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: blunt with you. But and it's honesty, You're gonna make

1401
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: you laugh and realize that we gotta push through all

1402
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: this somehow and we gotta make sense of it for

1403
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 1: some reason. This is happening right now for a reason.

1404
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: You know, we are not in control of any of

1405
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: this stuff, you know, as much as we are at

1406
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 1: the mercy of people who are in government, people who

1407
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: are you know. I say this is why I say

1408
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't really listen to people, because I know that

1409
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: people are all humans and we are all actually learning

1410
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: how things work at the same time. Some people might

1411
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: find out before you, that doesn't make them smarter than you.

1412
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: You know, there's things that they could never understand and

1413
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: be smart enough to do that you know how to do.

1414
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 1: And there's things that they know that you can't do.

1415
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: But in all reality, we are all learning at the

1416
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: same time how the world works and what is and

1417
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: what it is. No one knows what it is. I don't.

1418
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: I think everybody done, every we're all done. We're all

1419
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: don't believe no one is this freaking amazing person that

1420
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 1: knows everything. If they did, they were to save the

1421
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 1: planet a long time ago. That person doesn't exist. We

1422
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: are all dumb as hell. I promise you every day

1423
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: something new comes out and find out some food been

1424
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 1: fucking your body up all these years you didn't know

1425
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 1: about right and making drugs on TV. You had a

1426
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 1: thousand damn side effects. They're gonna find that stuff out

1427
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: after they give it to you. They can't just say

1428
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna cause this, because they don't know what's gonna

1429
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: happen until they give it to somebody and tested on

1430
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: money up one of us. So I say that because man,

1431
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna find some way to take all this, and

1432
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: it's gotta make sense, because the only way to deal

1433
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: with all this is to have some version of it

1434
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 1: that is able to take your mind away from the

1435
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: pain of it. You can't take that kind of pain forever.

1436
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna You're gonna take pain pills to a certain

1437
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: point until you become addicted to me. And now now

1438
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: you mention the whole body up. Now you can't get

1439
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 1: off on her. So so that that saying of the

1440
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:50,759
Speaker 1: comedian is is the catalyst for everything, you know, getting

1441
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: back to production. These studios reopening because they know people

1442
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be able to Yeah, people ain't going another

1443
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 1: year without being able to go to movies and go

1444
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: be entertained. You better be able to turn you on TV.

1445
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: You're better be able to watch something laugh because you

1446
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: want you gotta laugh to keep from crying. You better

1447
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: laugh to keep them crying. Because we don't know if

1448
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna get worse. We all know there have been

1449
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: a movement to try to bring equality to Hollywood. They

1450
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: want more blacks, more women in roles. What do you

1451
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 1: feel about? And this is the animation we've seen and

1452
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 1: some have given up those roles, where we see white

1453
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 1: actors and actresses doing voiceovers for black characters. How do

1454
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: you feel about that? Animation is a unique thing because

1455
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 1: I've seen it. You know, I can't. I can't say

1456
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: I haven't done a white character on TV before. I

1457
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 1: can't say I haven't done a white voice. I can

1458
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: do just about any voice, you know. I can. I

1459
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: can do just about anything you want me to do.

1460
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,560
Speaker 1: And think about this. You know how many times I

1461
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: played characters that weren't that weren't ginger to be black.

1462
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: It wasn't black, it wasn't white. It's just a character,

1463
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Now I can make him

1464
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,560
Speaker 1: sound however, I want him to sound. But you know,

1465
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: but that takes me looking at the character. Every time

1466
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: I do a voice over animation, I always say, send

1467
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 1: me how he looks. That's the first thing I say.

1468
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: Let me see if he's purple. Let me see if

1469
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: he's has eight arms. You know. I just when I

1470
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: did the Holly Quinn thing, the Holly Quinn, I played

1471
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: Frank the plant, right, I said, let me send me

1472
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: a photo of the plant. I want to see how

1473
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 1: he looks. I won't see how his face looks. I

1474
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: want to see how you know he has he has

1475
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,600
Speaker 1: little he has little leaves for his hands, but you

1476
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 1: can point and stuff. So when I do my voice over,

1477
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: I do this. It's how. It's just how I do

1478
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: my voice over because I want to. I wanna. I

1479
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: wanna you know the character you act it. Manager's got

1480
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 1: a match. So I'm gonna be honest. Man. I've met

1481
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: some black comedians who can do some amazing white people,

1482
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 1: and I met some white comedians who canna do a

1483
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: black voice I've seen I'm doing. I'm like, whoa, this

1484
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 1: dude do a good at Emerphy. Oh, this dude do

1485
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 1: a good you know. And I'm like, oh, snap, but

1486
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 1: you are still a product of whatever you are around.

1487
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: It's just you know, if you're used to hanging around

1488
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: with a mixed crowd or a mixed audience, or you

1489
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: got black friends, you naturally are gonna be able to

1490
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 1: do a black character. And you know, for me, see,

1491
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: we want to make sure that this is what we

1492
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,560
Speaker 1: want to make sure as actors and black actors, is

1493
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: we are doing this because we are like this because

1494
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: you gotta ask. We are doing us because I'm talented,

1495
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: right right, that's what you want to say. We are

1496
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: doing it because I'm talented and not because because I'm black. Right.

1497
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to give me shit. I don't want

1498
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: you to give me nothing, and I've always been like that.

1499
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: I'll turn down stuff. I don't want you to give

1500
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: me nothing. I want to salt to work because you

1501
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: want me to come to work and do this I

1502
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: want to give me. I want to give me nothing.

1503
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: I don't want no hand out. I see, I'm like this, man,

1504
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: I am not a handout dude. You know, you know

1505
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even expect I dig my own self out

1506
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 1: of stuff. I'll give me a shovel and I dig

1507
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: myself out now, I'm like, I ain't a lot of sand,

1508
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,600
Speaker 1: and sometimes I have while I'm digging myself out. I

1509
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 1: have literally thrown dirt over my shoulder back into the

1510
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 1: same damn hole, right, plenty times because I don't know.

1511
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't know sometimes what to think, right, So a

1512
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 1: lot of times I'll stay in the same spot. And

1513
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 1: if you're digging a hole and you're throwing the dirt

1514
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: over your shoulder back into the same damn hole you're digging,

1515
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: you ain't getting you still the same position. So I

1516
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: don't want to be in the same position because you're

1517
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: giving me something, because it's because I'm black, right, you

1518
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and you have to do it.

1519
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: I don't like you have to do it. You know,

1520
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: I want you to say. This dude right here is talented,

1521
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 1: and man, he's gonna be great in my movie. People

1522
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 1: doing shit because someone told them they had to do it,

1523
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 1: because that throws me off because it makes it makes

1524
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: what the work you put in to get to your

1525
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: point minimal. It makes like you're not talented. I'm just

1526
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: doing this shit because I have to, because they making

1527
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: me do they making me do this shit. Who Man,

1528
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: that's a hurtful feeling. Man, How you show up knowing

1529
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 1: that someone had to do it. You don't want to

1530
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: show up because they they have to have you. They

1531
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 1: want you that bad. They need you. They need your

1532
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: particular they need your particular presence on this set. They don't.

1533
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: You don't want, man. And the last thing you want

1534
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: to do, man, is be slighted in your in your work.

1535
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 1: You put it slighted. Man, you'd be like, Man, I

1536
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: feel so slighted. I'll tell you what that good example.

1537
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 1: This is a football it's a football one. Remember when

1538
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 1: remember when he got damn the Jets brought in t Bow. Yes,

1539
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: I was mad at hell, Man, I was mad at hell.

1540
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. Gonna tell you why the

1541
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 1: guy only got in on third dawn, like maybe twice

1542
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 1: a game. And guess what they did, hand them hand

1543
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: them all off the man around the middle. Man. That

1544
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 1: hurt me so bad, man, And I know I know

1545
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 1: that man was hurting. Yeah, he had it, but a

1546
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 1: little good. What he had to show up. He had

1547
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 1: to show up, he had a contract. He man had

1548
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 1: to show up. How they used the man I was,

1549
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,560
Speaker 1: I would hurt because I know the dude when the

1550
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: hysman dude, you know the miracle player in Pittsburgh, and

1551
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: you know all this stuff up to happen and man

1552
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: to be relegated to and run up the middle push

1553
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 1: for a third and one or it's like our god,

1554
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 1: damn it, man that had to hurt the man I

1555
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 1: had to hurt. And I'm sure it was happening in

1556
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: many other instances with people, athletes, comedians, whatever you whatever

1557
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: you do, but you don't want you don't want to

1558
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 1: show up because someone had to do it. That's not

1559
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: where we need to be at because nothing is gonna

1560
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: be honest, not coming from an honest place. So if

1561
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 1: you are talented enough, if you are talented enough, I

1562
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: can give a damn. I'm gonna be honest. If you

1563
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: are talented enough, and it's obvious you more talented, of course,

1564
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 1: have fun. Do you show your talents, show your ass,

1565
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 1: But man, don't do it because don't do it because

1566
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: you have to do it. It throws me on. I

1567
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: can't even get you put up sent on set if

1568
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 1: I know, damn, if I know, I'm just here because

1569
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: of just because you had to do it, right, who

1570
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: you don't want to coming for a quota. You don't

1571
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 1: want you don't want to coming because you fit the quota, right, Man,

1572
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 1: that hurts you so bad. A man like you know

1573
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: if you had, if you had to show up on

1574
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: the field and you know, damn well, you catch the ball,

1575
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 1: you knock somebody else. You can run, you can do

1576
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: you want to score some touchdown. And it's talking about block.

1577
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 1: Just keep blocking, don't don't worry about this block down

1578
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: this block. You're like, man, I don't need to be here.

1579
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 1: This is not why I shoulna be here, right, So

1580
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 1: this movie, I'm gonna get you out of here. On

1581
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 1: a couple of sports, Lebron came to the Lakers. He

1582
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 1: won a title this year with Anthony Davis. Four titles,

1583
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: four MVPs. Talk to me, what what what did you

1584
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: see from Lebron this year? What I saw was see

1585
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: this is this is the thing about. Here's what I

1586
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 1: think back to. I think back to that first season, Uh, Miami,

1587
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 1: you know the Wayne Wade play and gets Dallas. You

1588
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean to me, here's the thing that

1589
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 1: happened when I watched that game. I watched a team

1590
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 1: that hadn't jailed it. I watched the team you see,

1591
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 1: don't even know how many bad passings was in that game.

1592
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 1: That was the sloppiest. I mean, I know these guys

1593
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 1: playing together, I mean they play together, but I know

1594
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: they ain't never been in that kind of situation where

1595
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 1: and you're in a big stage. I watched that game like, Wow,

1596
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 1: these dudes ain't ready. They shouldn't even have I would

1597
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 1: rather have stayed home and got eliminated in the playoffs

1598
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 1: rather than end up in Dallas and and look that back.

1599
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: Oh man, it looked bad. Man. All I say was,

1600
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 1: look man, I said, give him a year. I said,

1601
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: once they learn how to learn how to play with

1602
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 1: each other and learn how to learn the timing and

1603
01:30:56,960 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 1: the passing and all the little intangibles, this team gonna

1604
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 1: be good. And that's what that's what I feel like,

1605
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: you know. But that's also because Lebron is Lebron is

1606
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:15,759
Speaker 1: a leader, you know, but he needs to not rely

1607
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 1: on you, on you, but know that he can rely

1608
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: on you, which is different, which is different. There's a

1609
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 1: whole different thing. So I think this year he found

1610
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 1: that in the legal team. I think he turned it up.

1611
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: I think Lebron is an amazing player. Man. I think,

1612
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,759
Speaker 1: you know, I agree with almost everything you say about

1613
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:41,560
Speaker 1: him on on the show, and I think that this

1614
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: guy is how do you you don't based on this year?

1615
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 1: He doesn't have no drop off? Where where is his

1616
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: drop off? Where is that moment we say okay, it's

1617
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 1: a rap, the same he ain't got that it's a

1618
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 1: rap moment yet when this man might this man might

1619
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 1: play to forty years old. Yeah, you know, he has

1620
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 1: not shown the drop off. Here's what the thing is.

1621
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 1: People forget that this is not just all mental. I

1622
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: mean of physical. This is a mental thing. Oh, you

1623
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 1: gotta have it. You gotta have not just do you

1624
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 1: have to have you know, mental strength, You gotta have resilience,

1625
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 1: you gotta be you gotta have that bounce back because

1626
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:37,720
Speaker 1: the man has lost it ain't like to me. The

1627
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 1: greatest strength shown to me is when you lose and

1628
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 1: you have the ability to still come back and win again. Adversity.

1629
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when you lose. When you lose, lose and

1630
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,560
Speaker 1: people expect you to win, that's the double layer of

1631
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 1: a pressure on your mind. I don't want to disappoint

1632
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,640
Speaker 1: my fans again, and I don't want to disappoint me.

1633
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to show up to the big game

1634
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 1: and not and not play right and news you know that,

1635
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 1: that to me is an ultimate level of strength, especially

1636
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 1: in the sports world. This, dude, I think what they

1637
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 1: did for the Lakers, man and the time of it.

1638
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 1: You know, I said it before you know all this,

1639
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 1: I said, this is gonna make a great story, right,

1640
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: you know I live. Let me tell you something. I

1641
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 1: live raid exit away. I mean literally, I can see

1642
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 1: the area where from my house. If I'm still on

1643
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: my roof, I can see further enough. I can see

1644
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 1: almost in the vicinity of where Kobe crashed at from

1645
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: my house. And let me tell you something crazy. That morning,

1646
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 1: you know, we we were in the process of building

1647
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 1: our new home, but we were still at our house,

1648
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 1: our old house, which is five six blocks away. So

1649
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 1: we woke up that morning, had plans to come over

1650
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 1: to the new house and talk to the concrete guy

1651
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 1: about the driveway. So we wait up in the morning.

1652
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 1: I said, God, damn, I said, baby, I don't think

1653
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 1: I've ever seen it this foggy in my life. And

1654
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 1: it was a weird, like I don't know what it is, man,

1655
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: but it was a weird, eerie kind of like fogging.

1656
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 1: This outside it was that bad. It was that bad. Shan.

1657
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 1: I was like, God, dang, is it's cloud It's it's

1658
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:37,600
Speaker 1: foggy outside. And my wife said, wow, yeah, because we

1659
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 1: lived our old houses on the hill and we just

1660
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 1: see the mountains. We see the mountains, all the mountains,

1661
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 1: and you couldn't see you can see nothing. You could

1662
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: see nothing. I was like, I can't even see the

1663
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 1: mountains at all. I want to see four rows of

1664
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 1: houses blocks and I couldn't see nothing else past that.

1665
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 1: When we come over here to meet the concrete guy,

1666
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,759
Speaker 1: we're standing the end of the driveway and we're talking

1667
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, so how are we gonna

1668
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 1: do this? And also we heard right and we all

1669
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 1: around like what was that? There was a helicopter flew

1670
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 1: over our house and shittim tell you something. It was

1671
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 1: flying so low and it was so loud, and all

1672
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:26,560
Speaker 1: I can say was, man, that helicopter is loud. And

1673
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 1: we saw I go over us. We was like, damn right,

1674
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: so this is crazy. So we leave the concrete guy.

1675
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 1: We talk about this time span is like fifteen minutes

1676
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: we leave ten fifteen minutes. We leave uh and go

1677
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:45,759
Speaker 1: to Rouse, the shopping center by the time we parked

1678
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 1: right it's like two blocks away. The roups go around

1679
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 1: the corner and I sat in the car and then

1680
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 1: my my wife went went and roups. So when she

1681
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 1: walked out the car, my buddy's Shannon. You know Shannon

1682
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: Smith played basketball chance, so she hadn't tested me and said, hey,

1683
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 1: I just heard something that came across the news saying

1684
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 1: that Kobe's helicopter crashed. I'm like, you know, my heart

1685
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 1: jumped out of my chest. Man, I said, yo, yo,

1686
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 1: and my wife was throwing the store. So I got

1687
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 1: out the car and stood in the parking lot like

1688
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking around, like did anybody else know what the

1689
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 1: this happened? I'm looking around and just one dude came

1690
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 1: out with a shopping cart. He had a think he

1691
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 1: had a Laker's jersey on. He said, yo, man, did

1692
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 1: you hear? I think I just heard on my little

1693
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 1: earpiece that someone said that it was a helicopter crash

1694
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: and I think Kobe was on it. I'm like, holy shit, man.

1695
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 1: All I think about was was that his helicopter or

1696
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 1: that someone going to the site because it was it

1697
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 1: was so foggy. It was so foggy like this helicopter

1698
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: was literally, I mean it was. It was flying low

1699
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 1: enough where it's almost like they was trying to see

1700
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 1: where it was going. And you can't see when you're

1701
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,560
Speaker 1: up there, you see you when you could see, you

1702
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: can see, you know what I mean, you can't. And

1703
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 1: I was like, and I was just born by the timeline.

1704
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 1: I said, Man, I wonder what's that? So I'm rushing

1705
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: to their aid. I didn't know. I didn't know because

1706
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 1: all I know was it was. It was almost surprising

1707
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 1: how loud and low it was, you know, because they

1708
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 1: don't know me fly that low and then you only

1709
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,600
Speaker 1: fly that low if you're trying to see. It was

1710
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 1: that foggy Jannet and it gave me a It hurt me. Man.

1711
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, And once I heard and I knew,

1712
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew exactly the area. Once they said

1713
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 1: this the exit, I said, oh baby, it's right here.

1714
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 1: It's like right there this happened, and I'm weird. Man,

1715
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 1: there's people who want to go down there. I said, Man, nah,

1716
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't look at pain like that because

1717
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: I know it's a terrible thing that happened. Man. And

1718
01:37:56,200 --> 01:38:00,639
Speaker 1: this is an icon of Los Angeles. Man, this is respect.

1719
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 1: This man's you know, his daughter's on the flight. It's

1720
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 1: other friends and family. Man, It's like respect what happened,

1721
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Don't go down there and

1722
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 1: make it a spectacle. And the last thing I would

1723
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 1: want to do is go down there and you know,

1724
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 1: standing there and all of a sudden people recognize you

1725
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 1: and and then it goes away from that to let

1726
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 1: me get a picture with you. Or I wouldn't want

1727
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 1: to go down there and take the you know, these

1728
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 1: people got a job to do and try to rescue

1729
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 1: people or whatever's happening, and you can't be that insensitive

1730
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 1: and getting the way or you know. And I mean

1731
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,560
Speaker 1: literally I could. I could ride my bike there is

1732
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 1: that close. It was terrible. Man. So this is big

1733
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 1: for LA. This is what needed to be done. They

1734
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,640
Speaker 1: needed to win this to complete the story. Yes, the

1735
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 1: story would have been I'm telling you, I can't even

1736
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:03,759
Speaker 1: imagine you showing up on the show and they lost.

1737
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't, I know, because I know I know how

1738
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 1: you feel about Lebron, and I know I know how

1739
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 1: skipped you know, I know I know where Anglena Skipp

1740
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 1: gonna come from. And I said, man, they're got to

1741
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:26,480
Speaker 1: win this game. They hadn't win it. I said, they

1742
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:29,600
Speaker 1: gotta do it for the city of Los Angeles. They

1743
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 1: gotta do it for Kobe and you know, and I'm

1744
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:38,720
Speaker 1: happy that Lebron had enough confidence in his team, enough

1745
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 1: confidence in what he wanted to do that sometimes I

1746
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 1: tell me all the time, sometime you're gonna speak your

1747
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 1: actions into existence. Yes, you gotta speak on what you

1748
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:55,600
Speaker 1: plan on doing. No disrespect to the other team, no

1749
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 1: disrespect to anybody else. This is what I got to do.

1750
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 1: I gotta make this go. So I'm gonna say, I'm

1751
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:05,640
Speaker 1: gonna put it into the universe and say, we have

1752
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 1: to win this and we're gonna go for it. We're

1753
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 1: gonna give it out all and we're gonna win this game.

1754
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:13,560
Speaker 1: If you don't say that, you lose your step. You

1755
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 1: just step back, you know, and that you know, That's

1756
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:21,560
Speaker 1: what I told. I did the Jets debut of the

1757
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 1: new uniform event in New York, right and I hold

1758
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:28,959
Speaker 1: them guys. Look, man, you guys got a brand new uniform.

1759
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 1: You know, no one's ever wore this uniform. Right after

1760
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 1: y'all gotta find some way to make this make sense,

1761
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 1: don't make don't don't have this moment where you can

1762
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 1: hit the reset button and you got a brand new uniform.

1763
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 1: This uniform is yours. I said, y'all, I said, y're

1764
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 1: all scared to even talk trash. Your job isn't talk trash.

1765
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 1: Your job is to go on that field and put

1766
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 1: somebody in the mouth. You put people the mouth every week,

1767
01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:00,640
Speaker 1: every Sunday. You put somebody in the face. How are

1768
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 1: you gonna sit there and say you ain't gonna go

1769
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:04,640
Speaker 1: out there fight. You better say you're gonna go out

1770
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 1: there push somebody in the mouth. You better say it.

1771
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 1: You're better make them think you're gonna. Ain't nothing worse

1772
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 1: than playing somebody and they're flinching, They flinching. Flinching can

1773
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,719
Speaker 1: be this. You can make a flinch or you're flinch

1774
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 1: You can make people flinch off words. If you talk

1775
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 1: enough trash, they gonna flinsh In their mind. All they

1776
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 1: thinking is this dude gonna push me in the mouth.

1777
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 1: They don't know when, but they're gonna get pushing in

1778
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 1: the mouth. So you gotta stop in that field and

1779
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 1: be prepared to put somebody in the mouth. Even in

1780
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: losing effort. They better leave their limping. They're better leave

1781
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:40,599
Speaker 1: their like God damn, they whoop by ass, but we won.

1782
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 1: They gotta remember next time they come, they're gonna be

1783
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:47,560
Speaker 1: flinching because they're like, man, last time we beat you

1784
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 1: all by twenty one. But god boy, y'all put it

1785
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 1: on us. You know what I mean. If you don't

1786
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:55,519
Speaker 1: have that, what do you have? And that is a

1787
01:41:55,640 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 1: true testament to this dude work ethic. He may happened, Man,

1788
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 1: he may happen, And I'm gonna get you out of

1789
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 1: here on this one. Your Knicks, you have an opportunity.

1790
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 1: You missed on Zion, you missed on Kyrie, you missed

1791
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 1: on k D. Will you, guys, will the Knicks ever

1792
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 1: be able to attract the big time free agent? And

1793
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 1: what are your expectations of the Knicks next season? Here's

1794
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,600
Speaker 1: another all thought. It's in the tomb I wish we

1795
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 1: had got I'm this is not the biggest piece in

1796
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,720
Speaker 1: the world. But see, I go by this, I go

1797
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 1: by getting pieces. To get a piece, right, you can't.

1798
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes you cannot get the big piece unless you have

1799
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 1: a piece that the big piece want to see, right,

1800
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 1: you can't. We might have got a Zion but I'm

1801
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 1: maybe gonna win. Right, you need something there. So when

1802
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 1: Zion get there, he can say, I see, I see

1803
01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 1: what we can do. But if you can't see what

1804
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 1: we can do, ain't nobody gonna come to the Knicks. Right.

1805
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 1: What they should have did was this. They should have

1806
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 1: they got Kimba. They should have jumped on Kimber. I

1807
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 1: would have made it happen. I would have run the

1808
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 1: boy home. We could have we could have had a nucleus.

1809
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 1: I was at a Knick game one one night. Well,

1810
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 1: I saw a tear he ass up. I said, man,

1811
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: if they don't bring it, and I knew his contract

1812
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 1: was gonna be up, and I knew he was gonna

1813
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 1: be free. I said, man, if they don't get this dude,

1814
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 1: ready year. If they don't bring and they don't get Kimber,

1815
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 1: we gotta start somewhere. That's gonna make somebody else come right.

1816
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 1: We missed everybody, man. Now. I think they was kind

1817
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 1: of hoping they get Kyrie and KD. No, but that's

1818
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 1: the thing. If you don't, you you're hoping and waiting

1819
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 1: on k KD and Kyrie. But if you don't get

1820
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 1: one of them, then what you get nothing they can

1821
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 1: get nothing. You got to get something to bring something

1822
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 1: you cannot. You can't rely on getting those two dudes

1823
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 1: unless those two dudes completely agreed and we both gonna

1824
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 1: come to the next and we both gonna change things.

1825
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 1: You need to get something there. You need to get

1826
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:07,599
Speaker 1: some excitement with the should have did. I ain't live

1827
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 1: and saying this for years and I sit on the show.

1828
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 1: They should have got God damn that Mark Jackson, and

1829
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what is going on and why this

1830
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 1: man this icon. You gotta get the fans something to

1831
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 1: cheer for until they have something to cheer for, you know.

1832
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 1: And we're not gonna get that big time player. We're

1833
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:30,759
Speaker 1: not gonna get them. I wish, I wish, I wish

1834
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 1: and and we would get out with that. I wish

1835
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 1: would get the Greek freak to come on down from Milwaukee. Man,

1836
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 1: I wish, I wish, you know. And I already got

1837
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 1: a slogan for the for the team and everything. I'm

1838
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm a marking and genius man. I love like play

1839
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 1: on words and stuff. I was like, y'all gonna go

1840
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 1: for the dude, man, but I'm sorry, we don't got

1841
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 1: We got some good players. The young players. But we

1842
01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 1: need to entice people to come to the Knicks. This

1843
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: is one of the biggest market teams in the in

1844
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 1: the country. Sometimes they need a little fish to attract

1845
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 1: the big fish. You did you need it, man, I said, Man,

1846
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 1: if Yannis come over here, there, do a campaign, you know,

1847
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 1: I said, I said, man, Look, let me be the

1848
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 1: let me be here, damn publicist in the commercial all

1849
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 1: these and then we're promoting bringing him to the Knicks.

1850
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 1: Maybe he comes to the Knicks'll be awesome, and then

1851
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 1: we can go out there and promote. As a publicist,

1852
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 1: I would say, Man, we advocated that city of New York,

1853
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,640
Speaker 1: changing the city of New York to the city of

1854
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 1: New Yannis. See that New Yannis. Oh shit, what an

1855
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: amazing campaign. People be amped up, got New Jannis shirts

1856
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 1: on it, New Yannis bringing the man to New York. Man,

1857
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 1: make it happen, man, I know, I know, Milwakee. Try

1858
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 1: to hold on to that man because that's all they got.

1859
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 1: They lose him. People are leaving these small market teams. Man, Yeah,

1860
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 1: need super teams. So I don't know, but that just

1861
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 1: because you get it. You got to know how to

1862
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:06,560
Speaker 1: play with the person you gotta know, you know, you

1863
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 1: can't just throw the man anywhere. You don't want to

1864
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 1: waste that man career. You don't want to waste that man.

1865
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 1: And the same thing as I on. You gotta go

1866
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:17,599
Speaker 1: somewhere where you can nurture these young these young guys,

1867
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 1: man and get them right. And you gotta have somebody

1868
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:23,200
Speaker 1: on the on the team, the feed off of you

1869
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 1: gotta have something they can somebody can talk to in

1870
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 1: the locker room. All the young guys need that. They

1871
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 1: all need that. They're just running. They're just running. They

1872
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 1: just run and run and running. They get hurt or

1873
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:35,479
Speaker 1: something happens. They don't got an organization on the court

1874
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 1: you need. You need him put a team together like

1875
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 1: a puzzle man. And that team that won the championship,

1876
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 1: this team that was in that bubble. Man, it's another

1877
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 1: level of mental. You know, your men, your mental gotta

1878
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,760
Speaker 1: be right standing that bubble for that long man. You

1879
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 1: got to you got to and to be away from

1880
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 1: your family and beware from everybody. Got long man. Still

1881
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:02,879
Speaker 1: have to have the have that in you that allowed

1882
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 1: you to win this championship. Man, that's you know we

1883
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 1: were gonna the Knicks got a little ways to go.

1884
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 1: But you need something to get something. You gotta be

1885
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 1: willing to make that small leap in order to pull

1886
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:22,720
Speaker 1: somebody here. But I still say Kimber would have been

1887
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 1: a next piece to have. And he could push the ball,

1888
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:27,919
Speaker 1: he can do a little bit of everything. Man's exciting

1889
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 1: to watch play and you know, we'll see what happens. Man.

1890
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 1: I don't know what's on the horizon for the Knicks,

1891
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 1: but you know we've got some good young players. Man.

1892
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 1: I do like r J. I do like the Knocks.

1893
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 1: I like I like what we got. But you know

1894
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 1: it is a team that you gotta You gotta have

1895
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 1: some names on that team, man, for the people to

1896
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 1: understand what you're trying to do. And the fans just

1897
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 1: want to see you. Fans just need effort, man, Fans

1898
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 1: just want to see effort. You see you bust your ass.

1899
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 1: That's okay, you know, you know the old Knicks MANA man,

1900
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you barely got out of that building

1901
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 1: with any eight points back in the day. Ye you're

1902
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 1: coming to you. You might score any you might score

1903
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:16,519
Speaker 1: eighty eight. You'll be looking to get in the nineties

1904
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 1: because dumb boys they put it on you yep, they

1905
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 1: put it on you, man, and and the fans need

1906
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 1: to see that kind of effort. Man. And you know,

1907
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm a nick through good and bad man. I'm a

1908
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:30,680
Speaker 1: nick fan man. And we don't see what happens. Man.

1909
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 1: But we got a lot of young players we need

1910
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 1: to get need to get one good name there, and

1911
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 1: we need to we need to get somebody a good

1912
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 1: name there to be able to pull the big fish.

1913
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 1: But we need but we also need some sort of management.

1914
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 1: Needs to have a little more uh what's the word

1915
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:59,680
Speaker 1: for it. We gotta I don't like the management on

1916
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 1: any level of most of my York teams. I don't

1917
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:06,560
Speaker 1: like how to handle things right, and I think I

1918
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:09,679
Speaker 1: think it pushes people away. And I just don't want

1919
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 1: the city, the fans to continue to suffer by people

1920
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 1: being pushed away. And it's not good for the fans.

1921
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 1: And fans just just got to hang on. And it's

1922
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 1: it's hard, man, It's hard being It's hard being a

1923
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 1: loyal fan if you feel like you know you're not

1924
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:30,000
Speaker 1: really doing it for the team, you don't know why

1925
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 1: they're doing it, and you you just want to be

1926
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 1: on the same page with the fans. Man. You want

1927
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 1: to give them what they come out to to see.

1928
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 1: You want to put a show on. You want to

1929
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 1: make sure winna lose that You're you're, you're, you're, you're

1930
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 1: really giving attention to the fans and making sure you're

1931
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 1: not just doing stuff for spite or doing stuff because

1932
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 1: you can. It's really about putting them seats in there

1933
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 1: and making people you know, and nothing better than leave it.

1934
01:49:56,439 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 1: I Oh, I left the old Nick games starts and healing.

1935
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 1: You know. Any time I left that bad, were even

1936
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 1: at a loss smiling because I was like, oh, I

1937
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 1: can keep pulling up. It's a good play here and there,

1938
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that keep it going.

1939
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 1: That keep it going, like man, whoa Mark? But Mark

1940
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,479
Speaker 1: came down court and throw that ball back on him

1941
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 1: and Patrick Cardick and dumped it. Oh we love but man,

1942
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 1: that play. Oh you see promise, you see promise. Yep.

1943
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 1: That's all that's always wanted as a fan, that's alway.

1944
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm a real fan. I'm a real fan through the

1945
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 1: good in bad. I'm right, I'm gonna ride it out.

1946
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens, smooth. I real appreciate it, brou

1947
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking time, spending a couple of

1948
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 1: hours with me today, talking good, catching up with you.

1949
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 1: I'll see you down the road. I see that road

1950
01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 1: about THENNA love you all right, brouh, how we'll go

1951
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 1: with all my life and running all my life, sack fights, custle,

1952
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 1: bad price, one slice got the broller Dice swad all

1953
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 1: my life. I've been rinding all my life, all my life,

1954
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 1: and rinding all my life. Sack of fights to bay

1955
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,560
Speaker 1: the price. One slice that the brother of Dice to

1956
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 1: swap all my life. I've been running all my life,