WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: The Blame Game 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.720 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:17.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:21.600 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:25.919 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:31.280 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:37.559 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.920 It is Monday, December twenty third, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.479 episode number one oh five. Welcome to another edition of 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.239 The Break. We are live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.680 At the start, we're talking about the Cowboys lost yesterday. 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.760 They lose to the Eagle seventeen to nine, and man, 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.440 do we have so many opinions, so many thoughts on 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.480 this game. We got a lot to discuss. Let's jump 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.960 right in, and because there were so many storylines, literally, 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.039 there were a ton of storylines coming out of this game, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.560 I'd like to go around the table and initially start 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:08.800 the conversation by giving each of you an opportunity to 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.960 have somewhat of an opening statement just about what your 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:16.000 general thoughts are of this team coming off of that 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.840 loss to the Eagles in Philadelphia. We'll start with you, Nick, 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.640 thank you, and before you say anything, take a deep 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:29.160 breath and then go. Man. So many places as a start, 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:34.319 they they're just they're just not They're obviously not a 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.520 good team. I mean, we've seen that for a while, 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.399 and they showed us last week that they can, you know, 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.959 have a good moment, but you know when when it 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.240 was really time, Like I've said all along, I'm just 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.920 gonna stick with the same theme, they don't. They're not clutch, 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.760 and they're not clutching the plays, and they're not clutch 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.360 in the in the moment to go and just take it. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.680 They've got the hats in the shirts in a box 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.800 under the tables down there. Just go open the box, 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:00.600 just go do what you gotta do. But they don't. 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.880 They don't because they're really they're not a good team, 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.200 and they're I don't think they're well coached. And their 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.720 toughness was questioned and they lost. They're not they weren't 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.880 tough yesterday. I don't think in both aspects of being tough. 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:21.520 All right, eber Well, I don't really know where to start. 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.679 I think one of the things that really bothers me 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.120 is when we come in here in this show and 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.320 talk about things throughout the season. Clearly, if we were 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.320 talking about it, they should know about it, like they 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.760 should be watching the same game and seeing the same things. So, 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.520 for example, when it comes to Amari Cooper, and I 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.600 know we'll get into depth about him and all that, 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:48.200 but you know, we talked about him not being good 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.720 on the road, and they should know that. Not that 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:54.120 they should be preparing for a guy that's supposed to 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.400 be your best white receiver, but you should be aware 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:01.280 of things like that dacked shoulder. Okay, how do you 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:05.840 create different plays to help in scenarios like this where 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:09.560 Amari Cooper just doesn't show up in a game, so 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.680 little things like that. It's amazing to see how they 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.560 were able to run the ball last week and then 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:20.440 this week it was just absolutely on present. And to me, 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.760 it's all about preparation and how do you come up 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:28.800 with different game plan and different things to do in 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:32.639 different situations. I just don't get it. But it's all 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.280 about coaching. Yes, the players have a lot to do 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.680 with what happened yesterday, but at the same time, you 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.480 as a coach, you know what you're dealing with, and 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.880 she'd be prepared to attack it, Dave. This is only 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.320 my seventh season covering the team, so my perspective is limited. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.360 But I've learned a lot about the Cowboys, you know, 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.400 from before my time just working here. I feel like 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.440 I have a good grasp on franchise history in general. 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.360 And this is just the most disappointing Cowboys team in 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:06.280 recent memory, and certainly among the most disappointing of all time. Um, 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.040 this is this is what I keep going back to. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:14.120 It's like twenty seventeen, injuries and legal drama and suspensions 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.240 got in the way. Twenty fifteen you lost your two 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.240 best players. Basically for the year two thousand and eight, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.080 guys were in and out of trouble and headlines and 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:28.000 you know all you know, gun charges and legal drama. 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.520 What was the drama with this team? Like what got 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:34.320 in the way they couldn't play? Yeah, exactly, there's there's nothing. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.560 There was nothing hindering this team all year long, Like 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.839 nobody was there. Like as far as the NFL teams go, 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:45.960 like one little drama and they got rid of him Tacoma, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.560 then they Taco's your biggest drama. You're doing all right? 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.640 And that was the one. Yeah, if Layton vander esh 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.359 is your biggest injury. Look at the Philadelphia Eagles. I 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.039 promise you they got lucky in terms of who was 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.719 available for them this year, and none of it mattered. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.240 Like Tip I always say, like this team's success gets 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.520 in its own way. There's nothing in their way this 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:09.239 year other than they could not string together good football games. 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:13.200 And I mean they have to take a hard look 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:17.520 in the mirror because like there's no outside factor that 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.000 got in their way. They just are a very talented 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.680 football team that is bad and that's frustrating and disappointing. 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.800 This I can't disagree more about that. They're not very talented. 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.720 They're not very talented because they have four Pro bowlers 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.039 that didn't and they're not Pro bowlers. I mean, Travis 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.640 Frederick is not a Pro Bowler. He's going, but he's 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:38.880 not a Pro Bowler. I mean, they're just not a 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.279 talented team. They're not talented, and they're not tough. The 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:42.840 one thing I will maybe they're not tough, and I 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:44.520 can kind of agree with you on that. Where I 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.000 would go different on the talented part is by and large, 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.040 most of these guys were here last year when they 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.800 had a pretty successful season by all accounts, right, So 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.640 there was some talent involved in being able to do that. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.760 They're one year farther into it with more experience. So 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.919 the expectation was what you saw last year from the 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.880 talent level should have been a little bit better this year. 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:11.040 And so you're absolutely all talent means is do you 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.280 have the ability or how good is your ability to 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.280 be able to do your job? And I think that 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.400 they are. There are a number of guys on this 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.440 team that if you go player by player, position by position, 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.360 and you're talking about them in context of players around 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.520 the league that do their job, I think you could 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.960 say a vast number of them are considered to be 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:33.000 talented enough to be up there with the top ten 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.400 guys at their position, top five guys at their position. Right, 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.480 So from that standpoint, I'll give you a good example, 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:41.400 and I think this will crystallize what you're saying. And 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.000 we're gonna get to this guy, but Amari Cooper. I 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.440 don't think any of us disagrees that MARII Cooper has talent. 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:48.720 Then I start getting to the part where you talk 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.360 about where does he have toughness? Does he have that 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.840 mental thing that makes him just go for it like that. 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.560 That's just he's all in. You know. That's the part 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.320 where you have either you got a great point, like 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.080 they just don't seem to have enough of those guys. 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.720 And that's and I'm completely agree for the most part. 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.200 And I think that's been the season long conversation, like 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.640 they're not good, but I don't know how you can 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.480 argue that they're not talented, Like Amari Cooper is a 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:16.840 talented player, DeMarcus Lawrence is a talented players. Even if 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.360 they haven't played up to their standard. There are so 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.720 many teams that would want this offensive line. They did 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.160 not play well, and you can chalk that up to 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.679 toughness of the physical and mental variety. You can chalk 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.040 that up to chemistry, because it sure doesn't seem like 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.600 this team has any, which is weird because that's always 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.680 been like a calling card of the Jason Garrett era. 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.600 This doesn't feel like a cohesive team at all, and 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.000 I feel like that's why they're seven and eight right now. 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.960 But four thousand yard passer, a thousand yard rusher, two 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.280 thousand yard receivers, first time the Cowboys have had two 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.280 wide receivers hit a thousand yards in a season since 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.360 two thousand and six. That screams talent to me. It's 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:56.160 just not translating to good football. Yep, that's just my opinion. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:08:00.800 Then talent is an overrated word. Then it's like stats, 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:02.920 I mean all this time. That's why it's the ultimate 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.240 team game, right. You can have the most talented team 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.640 in the world and it's not going to always bail 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:09.840 you out, especially in the NFL. And it's the same 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.840 thing as the Cowboys right now being the number one 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.280 offense in the league. We know if you've watched the games, 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.360 they're not the number one, but but according to that statistic, 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.400 yeah they are. And so that's where I think it's 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.800 You're right, Talent doesn't really mean a lot at the 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.600 end of the day if you can't assemble it in 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.320 a way to where it actually works together. But game, 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.280 that's what makes this so baffling and frustrating. I just 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.720 I think they have the pieces to be a good 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.319 football team. And it's not even that they're not good. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:38.000 They're actively bad. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. Actively. 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.480 I mean, I think there's a difference between not good 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.800 and bad. They're bad. Let's let's go ahead. When talking, 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.560 I mean these these pieces, these pieces to win and 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.200 stuff like that. We need to talk about that and 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.440 see how many of those pieces are really going to 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.520 be back. Yeah, well, let's let's do this. That's not 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.080 today's show. But let's go ahead and take our first break. 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.120 That's probably not today's show. But I do think from 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.920 the context of how they played yesterday, I do want 0:08:59.920 --> 0:09:01.520 to talk about some of these pieces. I want to 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.200 talk about the running back. I want to talk about 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.040 the wide receiver or a few of the wide receivers. 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.000 I want to talk about the quarterbatting. And then we 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.240 got to get to what happened on the offensive line 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.520 and what happened on the defense, because I think there 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.880 were some interesting things that happened throughout this game that 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.440 does make you question, you know, what's going to happen 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.240 with the future of this team and with the future 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.120 of some of these individual players. We'll do that when 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.120 we come right back. 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By the way, it's Christmas time, so Merry 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.400 Christmas to all of you listening to us and those 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.160 of us in this studio. We really do appreciate all 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.120 you guys that take your time every day to come 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.839 and join us for this talk. Even in a season 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.440 like this where it's been highly disappointing, we still appreciate 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.120 the fact you guys take time to listen. So we 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.200 want to wish your merry Christmas and happy New Year 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.080 and uh and all of the above. All right, so 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:55.800 let's get back to this talk. Um. I want to 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.040 dive into some of the individual parts of this game, 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.360 particularly from the player standpoint. Let's start first with the 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:05.400 running back. Yesterday, Zeke gets thirteen carriages forty seven yards 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.400 or three point six average. Coming off a game last 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.840 week where you got two one hundred yard rushers and 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:12.920 by the way, Polot this week got two carriages for 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:16.040 zero yards, and let's throw in a fumble for good measure. 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.880 But coming off a game like what they had last week, 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:23.199 what was the difference this week? Because arguably they played 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:26.560 a tougher defensive front. Last week, you could argue that 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.360 they were at least as good as this defensive front, 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.000 what was the difference? I think the Rams do what 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.360 they do, and they that's the scheme that they play, 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:37.319 and if you can get you a hat on a 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.120 hat and run the ball and have some success, then 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.079 it opens up everything else. I think the Eagles went 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.640 into the game saying, you know what, that's not practicing 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.679 all week. He hasn't, so let's make him beat us, 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.800 and we're gonna load it up. And you know, and 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.560 I still think you could run more than what you did, 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:54.320 But I think that they made it more of an 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.760 effort to try to stop the run and force the 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.720 Cowboys because they know the Cowboys are going to do that, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.200 gonna just kind of take what they what they get, 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.720 and then you know, whoever's on the field or regardless, 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.760 it's like, oh, I like this matchup. I see Schultz 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.640 out there. He's called two passes this year, but I 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.640 like it and I'm gonna throw it to him, you 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.640 know what I mean. They just do what they do. Yeah, 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.120 I think. I mean, the Eagles clearly made an effort 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:21.120 and it's funny, like sounds dumb to say, but like, 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.800 I'm not sure. I'm not sure the Cowboys played it 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.440 the wrong way. Like there were plays to be made 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.480 in the passing game. That was We talked about that 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.240 last week. Like they're not a good secondary, they're banged up. 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.599 They give up a lot of yards and points outside. 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:39.120 And the plays were there, weren't they. I Mean, Gallop 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.560 drops a long ball, Dak overshoots Tavon on a long ball, 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:46.120 Cooper drops, Cooper drops one, Gallop drops in a crossing route, 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.240 that Wit drops a wide open pass. How about Um, 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.439 I know I'm forgetting a big one. Oh the it 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:55.080 was like a comeback. Dak clearly overshot Cooper, but Cooper 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.319 like the most half assed effort you've ever seen to 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.040 go up and get it one. Yeah, the player, the 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.559 plays were there to be made. Dak was bad, and 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:08.680 so were literally all of the receivers and tight ends 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.360 for that matter. Throw them in there too. So I 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.080 like you can sit here and say, like, well, Zeke 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.360 is the ninety million dollars back, like feed him, feed him, 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:20.280 which I appreciate that they're not just going to bash 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.200 their head into a brick wall if they don't have to, 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.560 but make a play, make a play in the passing game. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.520 And like, I know Dak's shoulder probably hurt, and I 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.680 know Amari's got nineteen different ailments at this point in 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:35.520 the season, but neither one of them. Cooper wasn't even 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:39.360 on the injury report on Friday, and Dak was designated 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.200 as like there was no doubt. He's a full go. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.840 He's fine, and so I have to take him at 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.200 his word, and I expect you to play better than 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.440 that if you are worth the payday that you're heading for. Yeah, 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:54.280 he actually is. He in my opinion, played like he practiced, 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.800 which he didn't practice, and you could tell in the 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.600 game that he wasn't sharp. He went twenty five or 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.800 forty f or fifty seven percent completion, two hundred and 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.600 sixty five yards, zero touchdown, zero interceptions, is seventy four 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:10.600 point five rating. At this point, are you looking at 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.880 Dak differently from the standpoint of the contract than you 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.880 did is say, even four or five weeks ago. Yes, 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.080 in what way? He's not worth the money he's so 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.600 what do you do? I'd pay him in the money 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:26.240 of fift top fifteen, top fifteen to twenty quarterback because 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.840 that's what he's been. You know, you can you can 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:30.920 say all you want to about the yards. Yards don't 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.640 mean anything. I mean he's about he could break Tony 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.600 Romo's franchise record of forty nine hundred yards and they 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.800 went eight and eighth that year. In twenty twelve, Winston's 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:44.880 got yards quarterback rating, I think he's like twelve thirteen touchdowns. 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.200 He's right in there, and then the record is seven 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.360 and eight. So he hasn't done anything to make me 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.040 think that he is in the elite status of quarterbacks. 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.000 And so, but quarterbacks get paid. I mean, they still 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.640 get paid. So I think whatever Stafford Derek Carr's money, 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:00.360 that kind of stuff, I think that's where needs to 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.360 be you pay a member. I just I don't know 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.720 the whole thing. It's so difficult for me to make 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:11.280 a full evaluation of him, just because I have a 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.840 lot of questions about the coaching and it makes me wonder, 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.760 really with the better could he be better with a 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.600 better coach, if he is trained better and put in 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:26.400 better situations in the game. I just don't quite know, 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.080 And it's frustrating because this is his fourth year here 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.840 and I feel like I still don't really know where 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:37.200 Dad could get to because he's been under the same coaching. 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.840 We saw some improvement with John Kinnett coming in here, 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:45.080 and to me, he has improved tremendously this year, but 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:49.480 it hasn't been enough so that it's a difficult one 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.840 for me. Am I willing to offer him a long 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.600 term deal. I think as of right now, I would 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.280 want to put him under the franchise tag for a 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.320 year and see how that goes with a different coach. 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:05.879 You agree, Dave, It's tough because honestly, I feel like 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.600 the whole body of work is worth him being the 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.639 quarterback of this team in the long term. Like I 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.200 don't buy like he's not bad. He's not bad. Quarterback. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:20.600 He's good, but it's totally fair, like he hasn't lifted 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.240 this team, like he has not played like a quarterback 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:27.399 who can overcome all of all of the problems surrounding him, 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.720 much like Carson Wentz did yesterday. And like Wins, he's 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:35.119 not the diaper. Yes, Wins wasn't even amazing yesterday. He 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.520 just made the plays that were available to right. But 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:41.000 sometimes that's what it takes. And you know you mentioned Romo. 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.359 It's it's kind of fitting in a way. It's like, guys, 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:46.920 let dack down yesterday, like a lot of guys did, 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:51.240 but does anybody care. Nobody cares make the plays like 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:55.200 pick your team up, win the game, and they're probably 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.080 not going to make the playoffs now because he wasn't 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:58.920 good enough and it's not just his fault, but again, 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.959 nobody cares. He's the quarterback, and so I think the 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.840 full body of work is worth a payday. But fast 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.000 forward to a month and we're back at the negotiating 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.240 table and it's like, well, Dak wants to be paid 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.280 here and the Cowboys are here. It's hard for me 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.960 to say, well, the Cowboys should just meet his demands, 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.800 Like where is his proof that he's worth playing hardball 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:24.320 where he's like I want thirty seven or I'm sorry, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.040 that's what I want. Like why should the Cowboys have 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.520 to capitulate to that? Like where's the proof that that's 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:33.760 worth it? But I also hate the idea of like 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.639 a franchise tags. I hate that. Everything you said I 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.520 agreed with about his development and all that, and maybe 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.119 a new coach and all that, but I don't know 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:48.000 about the franchise tag because I think I gotta I 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:50.920 think I gotta give that to MARII. The only reason 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.439 I have to give that to him is because he 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:57.360 is my first round pick from last year. So if 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.359 you if you start losing first round picks, they already 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.600 lost one in the Taco, they're gonna feel They're gonna 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.720 start to feel it here, you know, So you're gonna 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:09.200 lose that. And I think I would try with maybe 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:10.960 with the coaches, to have one more year and all that, 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:14.320 but like, because as of right now, I mean, maybe 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.280 it's just because of last night. I mean I think 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:20.639 the Cowboys need to seriously think about not having Cooper. 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.920 Let me, let's table that for just a second, because 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.120 I want to finish the conversation Dak and I, because 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.320 that's it is, it is playing. And I will say this, 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.199 I actually agree with Amber from the standpoint in the 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.840 franchise tag because the amount of money that you have 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.840 to commit to a quarterback, I actually would want to 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.720 see one more year and I'd like to see one 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.800 more year with a different voice in his head, right, 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.920 with a different game plan, with a different with different schemes, 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.040 see if maybe you can get him. Because because I 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.520 do agree, there have been some things we've seen this 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:51.840 year that suggests he is a better quarterback than he 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:53.840 was last year, and then he was a better quarterback 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:55.960 than he was the year before. Like every year, I 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.520 think he's gotten a bit better than he was before. 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.879 I would love to see one more year before I 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:04.720 have to commit big money to him, commit big money 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:06.800 to him. Right, So I do want to have that 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:08.800 conversation on the wide receiver, and you're right, the two 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.440 do kind of they kind of intermingle. But I kind 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.359 of like the idea of getting another year to be 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.720 able to see a little bit more about Dak before 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:18.520 I make a big book. What kind of year are 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:21.399 you getting? And I say this because how many second 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.560 half comebacks has he had this year? Zero? He has 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.080 not brought his team back, and lord knows he's had 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.560 chances to bring them back. So Klutch put it on 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.360 da like everybody else. But he's been that before. Though, 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.520 he's been that before. So that's why I say year 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:39.639 that before. But what But how many press conferences did 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:42.000 he have this year where he talked about contract especially 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.840 early on in the year. Almost every one you want 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:46.680 to do this again? Do we want to do this again? 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.199