1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: It is Monday, December twenty third, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, 8 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: episode number one oh five. Welcome to another edition of 9 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: The Break. We are live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: At the start, we're talking about the Cowboys lost yesterday. 11 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: They lose to the Eagle seventeen to nine, and man, 12 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: do we have so many opinions, so many thoughts on 13 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: this game. We got a lot to discuss. Let's jump 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: right in, and because there were so many storylines, literally, 15 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: there were a ton of storylines coming out of this game, 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: I'd like to go around the table and initially start 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: the conversation by giving each of you an opportunity to 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: have somewhat of an opening statement just about what your 19 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: general thoughts are of this team coming off of that 20 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: loss to the Eagles in Philadelphia. We'll start with you, Nick, 21 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: thank you, and before you say anything, take a deep 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: breath and then go. Man. So many places as a start, 23 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: they they're just they're just not They're obviously not a 24 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: good team. I mean, we've seen that for a while, 25 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: and they showed us last week that they can, you know, 26 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: have a good moment, but you know when when it 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: was really time, Like I've said all along, I'm just 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: gonna stick with the same theme, they don't. They're not clutch, 29 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: and they're not clutching the plays, and they're not clutch 30 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: in the in the moment to go and just take it. 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: They've got the hats in the shirts in a box 32 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: under the tables down there. Just go open the box, 33 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: just go do what you gotta do. But they don't. 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: They don't because they're really they're not a good team, 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: and they're I don't think they're well coached. And their 36 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: toughness was questioned and they lost. They're not they weren't 37 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: tough yesterday. I don't think in both aspects of being tough. 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: All right, eber Well, I don't really know where to start. 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that really bothers me 40 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: is when we come in here in this show and 41 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: talk about things throughout the season. Clearly, if we were 42 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: talking about it, they should know about it, like they 43 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: should be watching the same game and seeing the same things. So, 44 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: for example, when it comes to Amari Cooper, and I 45 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: know we'll get into depth about him and all that, 46 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: but you know, we talked about him not being good 47 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: on the road, and they should know that. Not that 48 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: they should be preparing for a guy that's supposed to 49 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: be your best white receiver, but you should be aware 50 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: of things like that dacked shoulder. Okay, how do you 51 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: create different plays to help in scenarios like this where 52 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper just doesn't show up in a game, so 53 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: little things like that. It's amazing to see how they 54 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: were able to run the ball last week and then 55 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: this week it was just absolutely on present. And to me, 56 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: it's all about preparation and how do you come up 57 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: with different game plan and different things to do in 58 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: different situations. I just don't get it. But it's all 59 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: about coaching. Yes, the players have a lot to do 60 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: with what happened yesterday, but at the same time, you 61 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: as a coach, you know what you're dealing with, and 62 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: she'd be prepared to attack it, Dave. This is only 63 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: my seventh season covering the team, so my perspective is limited. 64 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: But I've learned a lot about the Cowboys, you know, 65 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: from before my time just working here. I feel like 66 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: I have a good grasp on franchise history in general. 67 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: And this is just the most disappointing Cowboys team in 68 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: recent memory, and certainly among the most disappointing of all time. Um, 69 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: this is this is what I keep going back to. 70 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: It's like twenty seventeen, injuries and legal drama and suspensions 71 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: got in the way. Twenty fifteen you lost your two 72 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: best players. Basically for the year two thousand and eight, 73 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: guys were in and out of trouble and headlines and 74 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: you know all you know, gun charges and legal drama. 75 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: What was the drama with this team? Like what got 76 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: in the way they couldn't play? Yeah, exactly, there's there's nothing. 77 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: There was nothing hindering this team all year long, Like 78 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: nobody was there. Like as far as the NFL teams go, 79 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: like one little drama and they got rid of him Tacoma, 80 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: then they Taco's your biggest drama. You're doing all right? 81 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: And that was the one. Yeah, if Layton vander esh 82 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: is your biggest injury. Look at the Philadelphia Eagles. I 83 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: promise you they got lucky in terms of who was 84 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: available for them this year, and none of it mattered. 85 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: Like Tip I always say, like this team's success gets 86 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: in its own way. There's nothing in their way this 87 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 1: year other than they could not string together good football games. 88 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: And I mean they have to take a hard look 89 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: in the mirror because like there's no outside factor that 90 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: got in their way. They just are a very talented 91 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: football team that is bad and that's frustrating and disappointing. 92 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: This I can't disagree more about that. They're not very talented. 93 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: They're not very talented because they have four Pro bowlers 94 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: that didn't and they're not Pro bowlers. I mean, Travis 95 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: Frederick is not a Pro Bowler. He's going, but he's 96 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: not a Pro Bowler. I mean, they're just not a 97 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: talented team. They're not talented, and they're not tough. The 98 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: one thing I will maybe they're not tough, and I 99 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: can kind of agree with you on that. Where I 100 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: would go different on the talented part is by and large, 101 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: most of these guys were here last year when they 102 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: had a pretty successful season by all accounts, right, So 103 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: there was some talent involved in being able to do that. 104 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: They're one year farther into it with more experience. So 105 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: the expectation was what you saw last year from the 106 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: talent level should have been a little bit better this year. 107 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: And so you're absolutely all talent means is do you 108 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: have the ability or how good is your ability to 109 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: be able to do your job? And I think that 110 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: they are. There are a number of guys on this 111 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: team that if you go player by player, position by position, 112 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: and you're talking about them in context of players around 113 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: the league that do their job, I think you could 114 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: say a vast number of them are considered to be 115 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: talented enough to be up there with the top ten 116 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: guys at their position, top five guys at their position. Right, 117 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, I'll give you a good example, 118 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: and I think this will crystallize what you're saying. And 119 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to this guy, but Amari Cooper. I 120 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: don't think any of us disagrees that MARII Cooper has talent. 121 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: Then I start getting to the part where you talk 122 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: about where does he have toughness? Does he have that 123 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: mental thing that makes him just go for it like that. 124 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: That's just he's all in. You know. That's the part 125 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: where you have either you got a great point, like 126 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: they just don't seem to have enough of those guys. 127 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: And that's and I'm completely agree for the most part. 128 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's been the season long conversation, like 129 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: they're not good, but I don't know how you can 130 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: argue that they're not talented, Like Amari Cooper is a 131 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: talented player, DeMarcus Lawrence is a talented players. Even if 132 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: they haven't played up to their standard. There are so 133 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: many teams that would want this offensive line. They did 134 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: not play well, and you can chalk that up to 135 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 1: toughness of the physical and mental variety. You can chalk 136 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: that up to chemistry, because it sure doesn't seem like 137 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: this team has any, which is weird because that's always 138 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: been like a calling card of the Jason Garrett era. 139 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: This doesn't feel like a cohesive team at all, and 140 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: I feel like that's why they're seven and eight right now. 141 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: But four thousand yard passer, a thousand yard rusher, two 142 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: thousand yard receivers, first time the Cowboys have had two 143 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: wide receivers hit a thousand yards in a season since 144 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: two thousand and six. That screams talent to me. It's 145 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: just not translating to good football. Yep, that's just my opinion. 146 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: Then talent is an overrated word. Then it's like stats, 147 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: I mean all this time. That's why it's the ultimate 148 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: team game, right. You can have the most talented team 149 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: in the world and it's not going to always bail 150 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: you out, especially in the NFL. And it's the same 151 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: thing as the Cowboys right now being the number one 152 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: offense in the league. We know if you've watched the games, 153 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: they're not the number one, but but according to that statistic, 154 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: yeah they are. And so that's where I think it's 155 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: You're right, Talent doesn't really mean a lot at the 156 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: end of the day if you can't assemble it in 157 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: a way to where it actually works together. But game, 158 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: that's what makes this so baffling and frustrating. I just 159 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: I think they have the pieces to be a good 160 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: football team. And it's not even that they're not good. 161 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: They're actively bad. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. Actively. 162 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a difference between not good 163 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: and bad. They're bad. Let's let's go ahead. When talking, 164 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean these these pieces, these pieces to win and 165 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: stuff like that. We need to talk about that and 166 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: see how many of those pieces are really going to 167 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: be back. Yeah, well, let's let's do this. That's not 168 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: today's show. But let's go ahead and take our first break. 169 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: That's probably not today's show. But I do think from 170 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: the context of how they played yesterday, I do want 171 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: to talk about some of these pieces. I want to 172 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: talk about the running back. I want to talk about 173 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: the wide receiver or a few of the wide receivers. 174 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the quarterbatting. And then we 175 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: got to get to what happened on the offensive line 176 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: and what happened on the defense, because I think there 177 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: were some interesting things that happened throughout this game that 178 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: does make you question, you know, what's going to happen 179 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: with the future of this team and with the future 180 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: of some of these individual players. We'll do that when 181 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: we come right back. 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By the way, it's Christmas time, so Merry 216 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: Christmas to all of you listening to us and those 217 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: of us in this studio. We really do appreciate all 218 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: you guys that take your time every day to come 219 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: and join us for this talk. Even in a season 220 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: like this where it's been highly disappointing, we still appreciate 221 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: the fact you guys take time to listen. So we 222 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: want to wish your merry Christmas and happy New Year 223 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: and uh and all of the above. All right, so 224 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: let's get back to this talk. Um. I want to 225 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: dive into some of the individual parts of this game, 226 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: particularly from the player standpoint. Let's start first with the 227 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: running back. Yesterday, Zeke gets thirteen carriages forty seven yards 228 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: or three point six average. Coming off a game last 229 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: week where you got two one hundred yard rushers and 230 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: by the way, Polot this week got two carriages for 231 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: zero yards, and let's throw in a fumble for good measure. 232 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: But coming off a game like what they had last week, 233 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: what was the difference this week? Because arguably they played 234 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: a tougher defensive front. Last week, you could argue that 235 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: they were at least as good as this defensive front, 236 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: what was the difference? I think the Rams do what 237 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: they do, and they that's the scheme that they play, 238 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: and if you can get you a hat on a 239 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: hat and run the ball and have some success, then 240 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: it opens up everything else. I think the Eagles went 241 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: into the game saying, you know what, that's not practicing 242 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: all week. He hasn't, so let's make him beat us, 243 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: and we're gonna load it up. And you know, and 244 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: I still think you could run more than what you did, 245 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: But I think that they made it more of an 246 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: effort to try to stop the run and force the 247 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys because they know the Cowboys are going to do that, 248 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: gonna just kind of take what they what they get, 249 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: and then you know, whoever's on the field or regardless, 250 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I like this matchup. I see Schultz 251 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: out there. He's called two passes this year, but I 252 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: like it and I'm gonna throw it to him, you 253 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean. They just do what they do. Yeah, 254 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: I think. I mean, the Eagles clearly made an effort 255 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: and it's funny, like sounds dumb to say, but like, 256 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure the Cowboys played it 257 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: the wrong way. Like there were plays to be made 258 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: in the passing game. That was We talked about that 259 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: last week. Like they're not a good secondary, they're banged up. 260 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 1: They give up a lot of yards and points outside. 261 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: And the plays were there, weren't they. I Mean, Gallop 262 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: drops a long ball, Dak overshoots Tavon on a long ball, 263 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: Cooper drops, Cooper drops one, Gallop drops in a crossing route, 264 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: that Wit drops a wide open pass. How about Um, 265 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: I know I'm forgetting a big one. Oh the it 266 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: was like a comeback. Dak clearly overshot Cooper, but Cooper 267 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: like the most half assed effort you've ever seen to 268 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: go up and get it one. Yeah, the player, the 269 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: plays were there to be made. Dak was bad, and 270 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: so were literally all of the receivers and tight ends 271 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: for that matter. Throw them in there too. So I 272 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: like you can sit here and say, like, well, Zeke 273 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: is the ninety million dollars back, like feed him, feed him, 274 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: which I appreciate that they're not just going to bash 275 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: their head into a brick wall if they don't have to, 276 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: but make a play, make a play in the passing game. 277 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: And like, I know Dak's shoulder probably hurt, and I 278 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: know Amari's got nineteen different ailments at this point in 279 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: the season, but neither one of them. Cooper wasn't even 280 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: on the injury report on Friday, and Dak was designated 281 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: as like there was no doubt. He's a full go. 282 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: He's fine, and so I have to take him at 283 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: his word, and I expect you to play better than 284 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: that if you are worth the payday that you're heading for. Yeah, 285 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: he actually is. He in my opinion, played like he practiced, 286 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: which he didn't practice, and you could tell in the 287 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: game that he wasn't sharp. He went twenty five or 288 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: forty f or fifty seven percent completion, two hundred and 289 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: sixty five yards, zero touchdown, zero interceptions, is seventy four 290 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: point five rating. At this point, are you looking at 291 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: Dak differently from the standpoint of the contract than you 292 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: did is say, even four or five weeks ago. Yes, 293 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: in what way? He's not worth the money he's so 294 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: what do you do? I'd pay him in the money 295 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: of fift top fifteen, top fifteen to twenty quarterback because 296 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: that's what he's been. You know, you can you can 297 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: say all you want to about the yards. Yards don't 298 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: mean anything. I mean he's about he could break Tony 299 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: Romo's franchise record of forty nine hundred yards and they 300 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: went eight and eighth that year. In twenty twelve, Winston's 301 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: got yards quarterback rating, I think he's like twelve thirteen touchdowns. 302 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: He's right in there, and then the record is seven 303 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: and eight. So he hasn't done anything to make me 304 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: think that he is in the elite status of quarterbacks. 305 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: And so, but quarterbacks get paid. I mean, they still 306 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: get paid. So I think whatever Stafford Derek Carr's money, 307 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, I think that's where needs to 308 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: be you pay a member. I just I don't know 309 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: the whole thing. It's so difficult for me to make 310 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: a full evaluation of him, just because I have a 311 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: lot of questions about the coaching and it makes me wonder, 312 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: really with the better could he be better with a 313 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: better coach, if he is trained better and put in 314 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: better situations in the game. I just don't quite know, 315 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: And it's frustrating because this is his fourth year here 316 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: and I feel like I still don't really know where 317 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: Dad could get to because he's been under the same coaching. 318 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: We saw some improvement with John Kinnett coming in here, 319 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: and to me, he has improved tremendously this year, but 320 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: it hasn't been enough so that it's a difficult one 321 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: for me. Am I willing to offer him a long 322 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: term deal. I think as of right now, I would 323 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: want to put him under the franchise tag for a 324 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: year and see how that goes with a different coach. 325 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: You agree, Dave, It's tough because honestly, I feel like 326 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: the whole body of work is worth him being the 327 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: quarterback of this team in the long term. Like I 328 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: don't buy like he's not bad. He's not bad. Quarterback. 329 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: He's good, but it's totally fair, like he hasn't lifted 330 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: this team, like he has not played like a quarterback 331 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: who can overcome all of all of the problems surrounding him, 332 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: much like Carson Wentz did yesterday. And like Wins, he's 333 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: not the diaper. Yes, Wins wasn't even amazing yesterday. He 334 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: just made the plays that were available to right. But 335 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: sometimes that's what it takes. And you know you mentioned Romo. 336 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of fitting in a way. It's like, guys, 337 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: let dack down yesterday, like a lot of guys did, 338 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: but does anybody care. Nobody cares make the plays like 339 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: pick your team up, win the game, and they're probably 340 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: not going to make the playoffs now because he wasn't 341 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: good enough and it's not just his fault, but again, 342 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 1: nobody cares. He's the quarterback, and so I think the 343 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: full body of work is worth a payday. But fast 344 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: forward to a month and we're back at the negotiating 345 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: table and it's like, well, Dak wants to be paid 346 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: here and the Cowboys are here. It's hard for me 347 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: to say, well, the Cowboys should just meet his demands, 348 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: Like where is his proof that he's worth playing hardball 349 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: where he's like I want thirty seven or I'm sorry, 350 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: that's what I want. Like why should the Cowboys have 351 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: to capitulate to that? Like where's the proof that that's 352 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: worth it? But I also hate the idea of like 353 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: a franchise tags. I hate that. Everything you said I 354 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: agreed with about his development and all that, and maybe 355 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: a new coach and all that, but I don't know 356 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: about the franchise tag because I think I gotta I 357 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: think I gotta give that to MARII. The only reason 358 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: I have to give that to him is because he 359 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: is my first round pick from last year. So if 360 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: you if you start losing first round picks, they already 361 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: lost one in the Taco, they're gonna feel They're gonna 362 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: start to feel it here, you know, So you're gonna 363 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: lose that. And I think I would try with maybe 364 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: with the coaches, to have one more year and all that, 365 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: but like, because as of right now, I mean, maybe 366 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: it's just because of last night. I mean I think 367 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: the Cowboys need to seriously think about not having Cooper. 368 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: Let me, let's table that for just a second, because 369 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: I want to finish the conversation Dak and I, because 370 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: that's it is, it is playing. And I will say this, 371 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: I actually agree with Amber from the standpoint in the 372 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: franchise tag because the amount of money that you have 373 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: to commit to a quarterback, I actually would want to 374 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: see one more year and I'd like to see one 375 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: more year with a different voice in his head, right, 376 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: with a different game plan, with a different with different schemes, 377 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: see if maybe you can get him. Because because I 378 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: do agree, there have been some things we've seen this 379 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: year that suggests he is a better quarterback than he 380 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: was last year, and then he was a better quarterback 381 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: than he was the year before. Like every year, I 382 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: think he's gotten a bit better than he was before. 383 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: I would love to see one more year before I 384 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: have to commit big money to him, commit big money 385 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: to him. Right, So I do want to have that 386 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: conversation on the wide receiver, and you're right, the two 387 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: do kind of they kind of intermingle. But I kind 388 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: of like the idea of getting another year to be 389 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: able to see a little bit more about Dak before 390 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: I make a big book. What kind of year are 391 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: you getting? And I say this because how many second 392 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: half comebacks has he had this year? Zero? He has 393 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: not brought his team back, and lord knows he's had 394 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: chances to bring them back. So Klutch put it on 395 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: da like everybody else. But he's been that before. Though, 396 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: he's been that before. So that's why I say year 397 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: that before. But what But how many press conferences did 398 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: he have this year where he talked about contract especially 399 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: early on in the year. Almost every one you want 400 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: to do this again? Do we want to do this again? 401 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: Where now he's making twenty eight million a year on 402 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: the tag or whatever it is, and he's playing every 403 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: throw is playing for this payday. If you if we 404 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: think that all this stuff is like, yeah, he's got it, 405 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: let's give him a new coach and all that, then 406 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: pay pay him. He didn't deserve top five money, but 407 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: he's he can be up there and and get it 408 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: out of the way. But you're saying that like like 409 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a choice. I don't know that he's 410 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: signing a deal. This got him, you know, paid like 411 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: a thirteen fourteen ter back. Maybe he should go somewhere else. 412 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: He can't do that. No, you can't, app can't lose 413 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: him right now. He can't do that. Right, but he's 414 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: gonna show stalemate, right, Yeah, but he's gonna show up 415 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: at some place and be like, where's the Pro Bowl 416 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: alightement Oh you got one? Oh you've made a Pro Bowl? 417 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: But now you're thirty eight? Okay, who's my back? But 418 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: the point but that's a great point. But the point is, 419 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: though he still does, he still has to at some point, 420 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: they gotta if they're gonna low ball, and there I 421 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: shouldn't even say lowball. If they're gonna keep him around 422 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: that thirteen fifteen range, they still got to give that 423 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: offered him, and he's got to decide if he says 424 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't want it, they're not gonna just let him walk. 425 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: So they gotta franchise him at that point. And that's 426 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: why I think that ends up being an option. I 427 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: don't say this to sound and passive aggressive. I legitimately 428 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: mean that. Somebody said this to me last night on Twitter, 429 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, I actually I want to know 430 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: this guy was like, don't resign Dak and let Cooper walk. 431 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: And I was like, in all sincerity, what's your long 432 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: term vision for this team if you're doing both of 433 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: those things? Because even if you're franchising Dak. You need 434 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: to be thinking about drafting his replacement. Maybe not in 435 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: the first round, but like you got to be building. 436 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: I despise the idea of tagging Dak doing nothing at quarterback, 437 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, well, maybe this year will be different, 438 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: and then next year is very similar, and you're like, well, 439 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: we wasted a year of his career. We still have 440 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: to pay him this contract or let him walk, and 441 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: we haven't done anything about the future. So I think 442 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: I'm with Nick, And that's kind of my point is 443 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: I'm not convincing. I'm not trying to convince you. You You 444 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: have to be in love with what Dak has done, 445 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: but you might as well sign him. And again, like 446 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: nothing has changed in the sense of like Mahomes is 447 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: still coming, some of these other young quarterbacks are still coming. 448 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,239 Speaker 1: Like he'll be a bargain quickly, and maybe you just 449 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: pull the trigger on it and get it out of 450 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: the way, rather than keep spinning your wheels saying like, well, 451 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: we're not going to commit to him, but we're not 452 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: going to do anything about the future of the quarterback position. 453 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: But the part that gives me pause on that though, 454 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: is I've seen some improvement. But I've also seen this. 455 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: To me, it seems like a trend this year where 456 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: they've been more than a few games where he's just, 457 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, just off. And so it becomes a 458 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: question of do I think that he can ever get 459 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: to a point where his accuracy is good enough to 460 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: where it's worth paying him, where he can be my guy, 461 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: where he can be my Russell Wilson, where I say, 462 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: and I can let all these other guys kind of 463 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: walk and I can fill in the pieces because my 464 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: quarter quarterback is good enough to be that diaper that 465 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: Nick talks about. I don't know that right, So to me, 466 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: give me another year to maybe see that, because if 467 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: you don't see it by next year, the likelihood of 468 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: him becoming that at some point is probably relatively small. 469 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: But what are you, like, what are you gonna learn? 470 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: Because I assume you can't predict anything to a certainty, 471 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: But like the cast of characters is going to be similar, 472 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: like I would maybe maybe not, I would assume Amaria 473 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: will be here, Seeks not going anywhere, or like the 474 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: offensive line will still be here. So it's still gonna 475 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: question about whether Cobb will be here and gall will 476 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: still be here. But Gallup's a good piece. Right, So 477 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: maybe Cobb isn't here, Maybe you replace that with a 478 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: young guy that you draft who is a more dynamic 479 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: player in the slot that can catch more frequently. But 480 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: right is a good piece for being the number two receiver. Right. 481 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: But you know, but Ma's gonna be your next year. 482 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: You just said he was your first round pick. Lass. 483 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: I mean you gotta bring him back. You got it 484 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: only as a franchise thing. I'm not paying him because 485 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: here's the thing. You can change out your receiver, change 486 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: out your quarterback, change everything out. It doesn't matter, none 487 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: of the new coach, nothing matters if you don't have 488 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: it inside you on fourth and eight to say, hell no, 489 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm on the field, not like okay, I'm out. Somebody else, 490 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: come in. I just ran a go route. Now I'm tired. 491 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: It's fourth and eight. The game, slash season is on 492 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: the line. You can't tell me Jerry Rice, Michael Irvin 493 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: and Chris Carter in those guys ever did that. Okay, 494 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: that's crap. That is absolute crap. And him and Cob 495 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: both and Jason Garrett should have called a time out, 496 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: should have called it time out and put it. Let's 497 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: bring it back to the micro because we really haven't 498 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: gotten into what a cluster that fourth quarter was. And 499 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: that's exactly I'm gonna We're gonna take a break when 500 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: we come back. I want to talk about that, but 501 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: I want to talk about that in the context of 502 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: this whole team, because they're not the only two to 503 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: do that. No. Last week we saw the exact same 504 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: thing happened to the defensive line. This has been something 505 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: that's been going on with this team for a while. 506 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break, We're gonna come back, We're 507 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: gonna talk about that. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Ready, Okay? Yes? Oh? 508 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: Are we gonna win? Just okaying is not okay whether 509 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: it's cheerleaders or your wireless network. AT and T is 510 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: America's best wireless network. Best network based on GWS one score, 511 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: September twenty nineteen. Ladies and gentlemen, it's that time again 512 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: for tailgating with the Auterbox Boys. 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Offer back to the Break 538 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back. It is the final segment of The Break 539 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: Laugh in s WBC Mortar Studios at the Star, we 540 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: were talking about the Cowboys loss seventeen to nine Philadelphia Eagles. 541 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: At this point, they are no longer in control of 542 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: their own destiny. The Eagles win this weekend. The Eagles 543 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: represent the nfcast in the playoffs. If they lose and 544 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: the Cowboys should win, then the Cowboys came back into 545 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs. We'll see how that goes. But all all 546 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: that being said, like everything was righting from them, is 547 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: Nick said in the first segment of the show, and 548 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: they just basically didn't go get it. Find me a 549 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys fan who isn't related to a coacher player who 550 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: wants them to make it. At this point, that's the 551 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: overwhelming reaction that I'm getting from fans is they're just like, 552 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: let it be over. Well, fast forward to Sunday and 553 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: then find me one that isn't I think. I think 554 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: that's done. Honestly, I really do. I don't think so. 555 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: If I mean obviously don't think, then then they're not 556 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: a real real die hard fan, because I think the 557 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: die hard fans would want your team to make it 558 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. They sure not after this year? Where 559 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: were you going with it? They sure as heck don't 560 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: want the Eagles to do it? Right, you know, differ 561 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: nothing else, just not the Eagles. That doesn't think that. 562 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that they think that the Cowboys would 563 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: go far in the playoffs. It's just and if you 564 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: were there last night and saw what I saw, like, 565 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: you just don't like the Eagles, Like, it's just you 566 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: just don't. You just don't like the Eagle. So if 567 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: for nothing other, for no other reason, then the Eagles 568 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: go sit at home and then you just kind of 569 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: go in and what happens in the player world, Bratt 570 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: little kid that's sitting there that doesn't like his toys 571 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: and all that until the other little kid comes over 572 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: and you know, and then he starts playing with him. 573 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: It's like wh whoa, whoa, whoa, those are my toys? 574 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: No link, yeah that's mine. So yeah, I don't want to. 575 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't want this at all. Then the Eagle, the 576 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: Eagles are going in the playoffs. They're like, nah, if 577 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: that like, we're in. So let's go back to that 578 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: conversation we were having just before the break. We were 579 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: talking about Amari Cooper, Um, you get to fourth down 580 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys season on the brink, fourth and eighth, fourth and eighth, 581 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: both Cooper and cob both on the sideline. Um. I 582 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: mentioned before the break last week it was late and 583 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: I think it is last week. They were late in 584 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: the game, and uh, the defense was on the field 585 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: and Michael Bennett they called a time out, right, and 586 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: uh and Schogar game and Michael Bennett is on the field. 587 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: But you got Tank off the field, you got Quinn 588 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: off the field, and Bennett is literally saying, no, y'all 589 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: need to get onto the field because this is a 590 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: critical down. And just all of that just makes me thinking. 591 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: And they asked Jason Garrett about it last night and 592 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: the postgame presser, and he was like, well, you know, 593 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: that was just the rotation. You know, we we rotate 594 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: those guys because you know, we got so much going 595 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: on a lot of plays we're running so rotting those guys, 596 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: and he just happened that they were off the field. 597 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: My problem with that is just that I feel like 598 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: the player does have some saying that. I also think 599 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: the coaches are being a little too. I don't know 600 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: if naive is the right word, but to think that 601 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: we could just send Ventral Bryant, Ventrel Brian, whatever his 602 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: name is, onto the field instead of Amari Cooper when 603 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: it's fourth and eight to keep the season going, like 604 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: to me, just something about that, because if not, then 605 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: go ahead and pay Briant the money, right, why do 606 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 1: you need to pay Cooper? You know, right? I mean, 607 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: it just doesn't. The whole thing doesn't make sense. Next 608 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: man up. You know, Jason's got a lot of saying. 609 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: Some of them are, okay, next man up is dumb. 610 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: It's dumb. It's dumb, and it's a lie. It's a lie. 611 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: It's not next man up. You can't do that. It's not. 612 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: It's not. If you did that, then rotate your quarterback, 613 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: which might have been a good idea the way he 614 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: was throwing some passes. I'm just saying, you don't do that. 615 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: So it's not it's not the next man up. It's 616 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: not and it needs you need to call a time out. 617 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: And Dave and I talked about this before. If you're 618 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: not calling your timeout and you're saving him, you're telling 619 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: everyone that you're gonna fail because we need these because 620 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: we're not gonna get this, so we're gonna fail. Why 621 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: don't you just call time out and tell your offensive coordinator, 622 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: who was called a very bad game to that point, 623 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: to figure out what the best play is and the 624 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: best guys on the field, Get them all some gatorade 625 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: and let them go and run a route where we 626 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: can do and if they don't, if it doesn't happen, 627 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: then it doesn't happen this season. Right here. Make a play, 628 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: Make a play, Make a freaking play. Yeah, that's just 629 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: I put that on the coach. But I hate that 630 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: you have to put it on the coach too. I 631 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: put it on the coach. You know. It's like it's 632 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: more blamed. Look, it's more the coaches that made the 633 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: decision that they were going to rotate that and not say, oh, 634 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: this is a critical situation. I need you back in, 635 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: or the player that's willing to come off the field 636 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: when the rotation says they should come off the field, 637 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: even though it's a big moment. Maybe the players are 638 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: checked out by this point. I mean, yeah, But at 639 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: the same time, it's like, you know, I have mixed opinion, 640 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: because yes, I do agree that Cooper should have been 641 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: on the field at that specific time, but at the 642 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: same time, it makes me wonder. I'm like, Okay, he 643 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: only caught four passes out of twelve. Clearly he wasn't 644 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: having a good day. They're needing to get someone out 645 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: there who can catch a ball, and you know, I'm 646 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: just again, I'm not saying I agree, but at the 647 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: same time, I can kind of understand why you maybe 648 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: want to switch it up somehow. And I'm not saying 649 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: Bryant is a better player than Cooper, obviously, but since 650 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: he wasn't having a good game at all, I mean, 651 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: why not try something else. That's what you try, though, 652 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: in my opinion, in the third quarter, in the fourth quarter, 653 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: do or die, I'm giving the guy that I'm considering 654 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: paying a ton of money every opportunity to save me 655 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: from myself, Like, this game has not been good for you, 656 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: this game has not been good for our team. I 657 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: want to give my best players the opportunity to make 658 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: a play to win this ball game. It's hard. It's 659 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: hard to get it's hard to get to the bottom 660 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: of these things, like in season when everybody's still kind 661 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: of rowing in the same direction. But it just feels 662 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: like there's an accountability issue on this team, and like 663 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: that's a perfect encapsulation of it. Is like we just 664 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: talked about it. They're on the twenty three yard line, 665 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: Amari runs a go. He comes out. He walked right 666 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: past us. We're down there to shoot our postgame videos. 667 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure he was tired, like he wasn't rushing to 668 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: get oxygen on the sideline. He just kind of goes 669 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: to the sideline. And I can imagine the conversation where 670 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's like, where's nineteen. They're like, oh, he came out, 671 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: And then Garrett's probably like rolling his eyes, like Okay, 672 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: we'll put get Tavon out there. Fine, whatever, We'll do 673 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: what we gotta do. And it's like player checks himself out, 674 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: which is bad, but coaches don't call him on it. 675 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: But which is all He checked himself out? Or was 676 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: that what he was told? This is our rotation after 677 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: next number of plays. If come, yeah, we put our 678 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: other guys. I don't care how bad of a game 679 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: he played, Like, shouldn't your best players be on the 680 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: field in do or die time? That's and that's the point. 681 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,959 Speaker 1: But it sounded like from what Garrett was saying after 682 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: the game, that was just their normal operation when they 683 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: get into that part of game, they're rotating their guys, 684 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: and it was his time to be off. The feel 685 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't buy that crap. I don't something that you 686 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: just say, Yeah, that's just something that he just said 687 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: it in a nice way to put it out. Oh 688 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: maybe that's he didn't like calling out and Mary Cooper 689 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: and he just said, Oh, that's just how we rotate 690 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: our guys. That's kind of That's kind of My point 691 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: is like right now, it's hard to get to the 692 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: bottom of that because you're gonna get company line. You 693 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: can still make the playoffs. But but but Maria didn't give 694 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: the company line. Mari said, I'm coaches pulled me out 695 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: of the game, and he's asked, were you tired? No, 696 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: I'm talking I'm talking about coaches and front office and 697 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. I think it's not gonna 698 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: be like next week, but it could be at the 699 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: owner's meetings or the combine. But like we're gonna hear 700 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: stuff in the coming months about, you know, not everybody 701 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: was bought in. There was conflicting messages like the you know, 702 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: some guys they know who they are, weren't really given 703 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: it there all, and like that. I'm always not trying 704 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: to finger point at anybody in particular, but can't you 705 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: just kind of feel that that's the case. He said 706 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: in the locker room Amari Cooper, I forgot what he 707 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: said exactly, but he was talking about, Oh, I feel 708 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: like maybe we should have run this type of play. 709 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: What was he said? He said, based off the go 710 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: ball was the route to run tonight. They didn't take advantage, 711 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: he says, they didn't take advantage of how they could 712 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: have taken advantage of that secondary the routes that they 713 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: were running with, routes that those those defensive backs can 714 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: cover pretty well. He said, the deep ball was the ball. 715 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: Say something, you know, I mean, say something. Stop playing 716 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: chess all day in the locker room and get up 717 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: and talk to sound j Law and figure out the 718 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 1: right play. Like I think when she said something about 719 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: checked out, I think he's checked out. Any of those 720 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: guys that were checked out need to be out. They 721 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: need to be out. I mean, I mean, yeah, you're 722 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: head coach. You're taking a lot of the starters out 723 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: because a lot of them to dynamite this thing, take 724 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: out the whole team out. Wow, So we're gonna go 725 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: from all the way from starting seas where we thought 726 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: to just like blow the whole thing up. I don't 727 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think we're there. I know 728 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: everybody's probably I want my wide receiver to I don't 729 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: care what. There's not a coach out there that's like, 730 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: you're out. You're out. You ran seventeen yards a year out, 731 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: this is the play of the season, but you're out. 732 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: I think I think Jarwin can do what you're supposed 733 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: to do or Witten can do No. No. In fact 734 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: that they went to twelfth personnel, I mean that that 735 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: in itself was like, why why would you do that 736 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: in this situation? Jason said, it was the look they 737 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: wanted all they that's all they have though, is sure, 738 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: twelve personnel, But who else? Vintel Bryant, that's I have 739 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: any other receivers? Right? So, but but you saying both 740 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: Cobb and Cooper just pull themselves out. They walked to 741 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: the sideline like you would do in the second quarter 742 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: because they're a little wind But it's different. But I 743 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: get that. I'm saying though, I think that, and it 744 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: sounds maybe I'm getting this wrong, but it sounds like 745 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: you guys are putting less of this on the fact 746 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: that the coaches. This is kind of the way that 747 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: they do things. This is their operation. Yes, it should 748 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: have been different, And I'm the first one to say, 749 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: if you're ja Jason Witten, there's no way we saw 750 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: him for fifteen years that we saw How many times 751 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: did we see Martellis runner on the field and he 752 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: ran right back off the field because Jason was like happening. Yeah. 753 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: So so my point is, so my point is that 754 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: those guys definitely if they if they understood the gravity 755 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: of the situation, they could have stayed in the game. 756 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: And they especially Mark, he could have stayed in the game. 757 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: My point, though, is I still have to give some 758 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: culpability to the coaches because it sounds like this was 759 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: their normal operation. I honestly, I don't think much of 760 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: this coaching staff. I think I've made that abundantly clear 761 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: over time. But I've seen the Cowboys drive to tie 762 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: and win like a lot of games, and I could 763 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: be wrong, but I can't remember a time where they 764 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: were driving in a situation like that fourth quarter down eight. 765 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: Ventel Bryant and Tavon Austin were their wide receivers. It 766 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: wasn't even just Coop, it was both of those guys. 767 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: And I some Eagles fans were yelling at me because 768 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: I tweeted it. I was like, that's who's in the 769 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: game when you're driving to save your season, and they 770 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: were like, big whoop the Eagles. You know, we've got 771 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: all these injuries, like you just got to deal with. 772 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not the point, because there aren't any injuries, right. 773 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: That is who they are willingly putting on the field 774 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: with the season on the line. And to me, it 775 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: almost makes me want to exonerate the coaches because, like, 776 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't think they're that dumb to do that because 777 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: we've never seen him do that before. But your starters 778 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: are always in the game when that game was on 779 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: the position. Well, that's not actually true because I know 780 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: for many years, Nick, you and I have talked about 781 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: this for many years, there would be those kinds of 782 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: situations and DeMarcus where it would be standing on the 783 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: sideline like rotating their normal rotation. It's like, why is 784 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: DeMarcus not on the field. I know, like this has 785 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: been happening throughout Garrett's career. It's two minute it's two 786 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: minute drill, and you want your guys to be fresh. 787 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: I guess I get that. But Fintel Bryant has one 788 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: catch this year. I agree, No, I don't. I don't 789 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: buy it. And it is a touchdown. I mean there's plenty, 790 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: it's precedence, it's saying it's fifty fifty. But I just 791 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: there is there is a disconnect within this team between 792 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: like the messaging and the what you know what I'm 793 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: trying to say, like, there is a disconnect. It's mainly 794 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: I think it's been on defense this year, but it 795 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: bled over into the offense last night, at least from 796 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: my outsider's perspective. And I just think in the coming 797 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: weeks and months, you're going to hear people kind of 798 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: be willing to get our detail about it. I think 799 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: last night, if you listen closely to Tank after the game, 800 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: Amar after the game, Zeke after the game, I think 801 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: they all said little things that make your thoughts start 802 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: to question how they're viewing. Is because DeMarcus. One thing 803 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: DeMarcus said that stuck out to me, he was like, well, 804 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: you know they were. He was asking about why there 805 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: wasn't enough pass rush. He was like, you just gotta 806 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 1: go watch the film. You'll see there's a lot of 807 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: balls coming out real quick. And my first thought was, 808 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 1: if you're if the issue is that the balls coming 809 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: out real quick, then is there not something that's happening 810 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: on the back end where the ball is able to 811 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: come out real quick? And Nick, you and I talked 812 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: about this, the cushion that they give these receivers, both 813 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: from the linebacker sandboy, from the safety standpoint, even from 814 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: the corners. At times it is third and five and 815 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: they are off the ball seven yards, right. It's like, 816 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: I do believe that maybe maybe you're starting to hear 817 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: some of that from the players, like hey, there's some 818 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: schematic things that we're doing that are not helping our 819 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: pass rush. Right, That's when I heard when he said that. 820 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: But I think those those kinds of statements that were 821 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: helping happening throughout the locker room last night. That point 822 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: too a little more than that's than than just what 823 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: you see on the same I mean, and if you 824 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: go back and watch it. I mean, the only reason 825 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys had a chance to stay in the game 826 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: was because of Doug Peterson. Yeah, he's got a Super 827 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: Bowl Trophy. Congratulations. He coached a terrible game yesterday. He 828 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: was terrible. That is true. He's almost really bad. I mean, 829 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys still couldn't take it, take advantage of it. But 830 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean he did some really bonehead type decisions about 831 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: the fifty five yard field that was one of it. 832 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: Third and one and fourth and one, and they're they're 833 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: down there, they're driving and then then they'll all of 834 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: a sudden they just started throwing the ball. I mean, 835 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: but they I don't know. Nobody wanted to run on 836 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: third and one yesterday. I mean, well, Cowboys wanted to 837 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: run on third and one. They just wanted to pitch 838 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: it to Tony Pollo. Have I guess the play for 839 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: Zeke we're on set on the Actually this is when 840 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: when Zeke called out of the out of the game 841 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: after he had a play and then the fallow I 842 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: think it was a following play when came in on 843 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: third and one, yeah, I'm sorry. Pollard came in on 844 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: second and two and got one yard and third and 845 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: one he got the pitch. Okay, I thought we had it. 846 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: But anyway, we were all talking about Zeke because we're 847 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: talking about whether Zeke pulled himself out at a time 848 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: when you need him in the game. It's third, you know, 849 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: second and two, whatever it was you're driving, you need 850 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: him to be in the game. Um, and you said 851 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: that there was it looked like he kind of got 852 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: banged up a little bit and that's why he called out. 853 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: But either way, it just seems like to me, there's 854 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: not enough. I think the word you guys use early 855 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: was accountability. You know, it just seems like everybody's not 856 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: on the same page, and everybody certainly doesn't have the 857 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: same level of urgency that you should have had in 858 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: a game like that where the division is on the line, 859 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: you have every opportunity to just take control of it, 860 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: win the division, and take yourselves in the playoffs. Cowboys 861 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: just were not able to do it. You're gonna well 862 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: it's equivalent at this point. But like you know, people 863 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: dogging Tony Pollard for the fumble, which, like I mean, 864 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: don't fumble in that situation. But that play called hasn't 865 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 1: worked all year. And it was also like the first 866 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 1: significant moment of Tony Pollard's game two hours into it. Yeah, 867 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: and it's it's beyond frustrating that as well as he 868 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: played last week and as well as he's played at 869 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: times this year, that it took Zeke getting hurt. I 870 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 1: mean he said he took a blow to the helmet. 871 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: It took him getting hurt in a crucial situation. And 872 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: they were like, okay, let's run this bizarre play as 873 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: our first look at Tony Pollard tonight. There's the play there. 874 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: It was, it went there, It wasn't. It's it just 875 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: all around f like coaching playing Christmas is gonna go 876 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: come up? Kai for Bath played really well, that's what 877 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: I was shown. Really well Kai for Bath had and 878 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: he went three or three which goals? I get Dak 879 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: checked to this play at the line is this thought, 880 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: Oh no, that wasn't the option my bed un. That's 881 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: one Zeke goes, somebody lands on and that's fine. So 882 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: he didn't take himself out because he didn't want to 883 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 1: want the ball on third and one. Yeah, and that's 884 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: got hurt yeah, don't. That's how people saw it they 885 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean, how many how many third and fourth and 886 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: shorts have they run that option play? I know they 887 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: did it against the Jets and it failed. I know 888 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: they've done it two or three other times. Why are 889 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,720 Speaker 1: you still trying to make that happen in this moment 890 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: with a guy who hadn't touched the ball yet all night. 891 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: But you open up a whole head cannon worms when 892 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: you start talking about the play call, because you go 893 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: back doing the Rams game and there was a ton 894 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: more creativity and what they were doing, the stuff they 895 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: were doing with Tavon and moving him into the backfield, 896 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: like there was just a whole different level of creativity 897 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: in that game than this game. You talk about this game, 898 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 1: there was none of that, no Jets sweep, nothing that 899 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 1: was out of the ordinary. It was all the same 900 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: stuff that you'd normally do. Which to go back to 901 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: Cooper's comment about not running the go ball like they 902 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: coached conservatively on the road, it's been a trend all year. Yeah, 903 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: it might be the reason when they played conservative. I mean, 904 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: think about it. I think Dak is afraid to throw 905 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: the ball sometimes down down the field and those you know, 906 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: tight tight coverage. I mean I think when it when 907 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 1: it really comes down to it, I think he likes 908 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 1: to throw it deep and out of bounds. And you 909 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: know those plays they're not high percentage, but they're also 910 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: low percentage interceptions, so you know, you throw it out 911 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: there like that. I don't think he There was too 912 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 1: many times last night where I think he was throwing 913 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: it deep and just to try to you know, like, hey, 914 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: it's either my guy or nothing. But I don't know. 915 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: All right, we appreciate you guys joining us. We'll be 916 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: back actually on Thursday. There will be no shows tomorrow 917 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 1: or Wednesday, UM, and then Thursday's gonna get you ready 918 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: for Cowboys. We're gonna say we're doing a scouting report 919 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: and we don't do offense and defense the same day. 920 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: Like poor at all. I'm telling you, by the time 921 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: we get to the weekend, I've already got it. I've 922 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: already got some some fan just texted me listening to 923 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 1: the shows like we want to win. No, absolutely, like 924 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: this is they're just mad right now, and I get it. 925 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: But come Sunday they're gonna be hoping, they're gonna be 926 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 1: you know what say Quan. That kid's gonna have the 927 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: right jersey on the market is gonna be like, that's 928 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: the right jersey son like because the market they're gonna 929 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,919 Speaker 1: hope that the Giants win the game and hope that 930 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys the Redskins and get into the playoffs and 931 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: getting the playoffs, whatever happened. Then you move on. All right, 932 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: We appreciate you, guys, Jones, We'll be back. I'm a 933 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: merry Christmas you guys for Nick Keatman, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. 934 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm Derek and this has been The Break live on 935 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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