Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,
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Speaker 1: information what you will? We have such a great show
Speaker 1: for you today. The Lincoln Project's Rick Wilson takes the
Speaker 1: temperature of VP Harris's presidential campaign. Then we'll talk to
Speaker 1: Laura Gillen, who is running against Congressman Anthony di Esposito
Speaker 1: in New York's fourth District, a hotly contested race.
Speaker 2: But first the news.
Speaker 3: So Mary, Governor Walls did the thing that a lot
Speaker 3: of people get testy about as he went on Fox News,
Speaker 3: and I think it went pretty well. Why don't we
Speaker 3: listen to him real quick? Can you tell us what
Speaker 3: you think?
Speaker 4: I want to talk of that abortion too, because this
Speaker 4: came up at the debate. It's been a winning argument
Speaker 4: for Democrats on many ballots. But I want to clarify
Speaker 4: what the law is there in Minnesota. Abortion Finder, a
Speaker 4: website that helps women find access, says abortion is legal
Speaker 4: throughout pregnancy in Minnesota. There is no ban or limit
Speaker 4: on abortion in Minnesota. Based on how far along in
Speaker 4: a pregnancy you are, you sign the bill that makes
Speaker 4: it legal through.
Speaker 2: All nine months.
Speaker 4: Is that a position you think Democrats should advocate for nationally?
Speaker 5: Look, the Vice President, I have been clear the restoration
Speaker 5: of Roe versus way. It is what we're asking for,
Speaker 5: way to make our own the law. The law is
Speaker 5: very clear. It does not change that that has been
Speaker 5: debunked on every occasion.
Speaker 4: Itzy, let what you signed is there's not a single
Speaker 4: limit through nine months of pregnancy. Row had a trimester
Speaker 4: framework that did have limits through the pregnancy. The Minnesota
Speaker 4: law does not have that.
Speaker 5: This puts This puts the decision with the woman in
Speaker 5: her healthcare providers. The situation we have is when you
Speaker 5: don't have the ability of healthcare providers to provide that,
Speaker 5: that's who you end up with a situation like Amanda's
Speaker 5: Warsky in Texas where they are afraid to do what's necessary.
Speaker 5: This doesn't change anything. It puts the decision back on
Speaker 5: to the woman, to the physicians, and we know that
Speaker 5: this is simply something to be brought up.
Speaker 3: Tis to be very clear.
Speaker 5: Donald Trump's asking for a nation wide abortion bank, and
Speaker 5: again we don't see this.
Speaker 4: She said repeatedly that she will not sign a national
Speaker 4: abortion band. Are you calling that just it's a flat
Speaker 4: out line.
Speaker 5: Yes, of course, and Senator Vance has in the past
Speaker 5: said so too. Now, look, they may see this as
Speaker 5: an election issue. We see it as a right of
Speaker 5: women to make their own bodily decisions. And that's what
Speaker 5: the states like my state have the ability to put that.
Speaker 5: In states like Georgia force women to cross the border,
Speaker 5: and then we have a death of Amber Thurmot. So
Speaker 5: let's be very clear, trying to cut hairs on an
Speaker 5: issue on this is not where the American public's at.
Speaker 5: They want the restoration of roe versus Wade. Vice President
Speaker 5: Harris said she would sign it. That's what we'll do
Speaker 5: with election.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have wanted Walls to
Speaker 1: do this because he's really good at it, and also
Speaker 1: because honestly, these fucking dishonest Fox News hosts right like,
Speaker 1: clearly Trump is going to sign a national ban.
Speaker 2: If he doesn't, it'll be shocking to me. JD.
Speaker 1: Vance is already numerous times on various podcasts in podcasts
Speaker 1: intimated that he is going to ban abortion, that his
Speaker 1: goal is to stop abortion and we've seen Alito and
Speaker 1: Thomas both say that they'd like to use the Comstock
Speaker 1: Act to prevent the mailing of abortion pills. So obviously, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Tim Walls on Fox News put him on there every
Speaker 1: fucking day until the election. And look, we see your
Speaker 1: favorite Mayor Pete. When Mayor Pete goes on Fox News.
Speaker 1: It is actually sometimes it's the only truth that these
Speaker 1: people see, Like Jessica Tarloff, it's not fun, but it's
Speaker 1: a necessary evil in our siloed media ecosystem. And I
Speaker 1: think it's so smart to get him up there. And
Speaker 1: the truth is, he reminds a lot of Midwestern people.
Speaker 1: I've heard this again and again of the dads they
Speaker 1: lost to Fox News.
Speaker 2: So I think it's very smart to have him up there.
Speaker 1: And I think he's going to continue to debunk these
Speaker 1: right wing talking points. And the reality is, yet again,
Speaker 1: like the biggest lie that Donald Trump loves is this
Speaker 1: idea that women are carrying fetuses till the you know,
Speaker 1: till they're thirty eight weeks and then having an abortion.
Speaker 2: For yucks.
Speaker 1: Nobody is having a last trimester abortion unless the baby
Speaker 1: is dead or dying or about to die.
Speaker 2: And the mother too will die. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's how it's you know, it's one percent of all abortions,
Speaker 1: and it's because things have gone so horribly pear shaped
Speaker 1: that this is the only choice for anyone. So I
Speaker 1: thought that was a really good point. And the fact
Speaker 1: that he was able to go on that show and
Speaker 1: remember those women's names, well, that blonde woman was yelling
Speaker 1: at him, good for you, Governor Walls.
Speaker 3: So, Mollie, I feel like the mainstream media is really
Speaker 3: having a hard time with their lack of access to
Speaker 3: VP Harris and Governor Walls. She's going on Call Her
Speaker 3: Daddy this week and the Howard Stern Show, but not
Speaker 3: doing appearances with them. What are you see in here?
Speaker 1: So this is something that people in the mainstream media
Speaker 1: themselves are quite mad about. As a member of the
Speaker 1: mainstream media, I write for Vannie Fair, I appear on MSNBC.
Speaker 1: I actually think that the Harris campaign is doing this
Speaker 1: totally right. They don't owe the mainstream media anything. And
Speaker 1: the other thing is that our internet and our radio
Speaker 1: and our televisions are very siloed now, so for her
Speaker 1: to go on places where political people live in a
Speaker 1: certain space, right, it's MSNBC, it's CNN, it's the New
Speaker 1: York Times.
Speaker 2: They know her.
Speaker 1: She needs to go on the shows where she's going
Speaker 1: to be able to activate the ones, Twoes and ree
Speaker 1: is the low propensity voters. Those are the people she
Speaker 1: needs to win. So I think it's very smart for
Speaker 1: her to go on Call Her Daddy. I think it's
Speaker 1: very smart for her to go on Howardster and those
Speaker 1: are huge audiences that can produce viral moments, and she
Speaker 1: needs to be as around as possible, So I think
Speaker 1: it's very smart. She's also doing sixty Minutes, which is
Speaker 1: traditional mainstream media. Look, there is a thing happening here
Speaker 1: which is a real phenomenon, which is because there are
Speaker 1: no gatekeepers. Because social media has taken over to some
Speaker 1: effect and killed a lot of newspapers and magazines, The
Speaker 1: mainstream media doesn't.
Speaker 2: Have the power it used to have.
Speaker 1: Right, You used to be able to rely on newspaper
Speaker 1: endorsements to help presidential candidates. That doesn't happen anymore, and
Speaker 1: in fact, so much so that New York Times is
Speaker 1: no longer even doing endorsements.
Speaker 2: So I do think that for sure.
Speaker 1: It really is a phenomenon where the mainstream media is
Speaker 1: feeling its power diminished and they're not happy about it.
Speaker 1: But we have like a little bit more than thirty
Speaker 1: days until this presidential election, and it's the election to
Speaker 1: see if we're going to have more elections. So I'd
Speaker 1: rather she goes on call her daddy and we just
Speaker 1: all take the.
Speaker 3: L for now, agreed. So here's an interesting one. Most
Speaker 3: viral tiktoks are at a fifth grade reading level, but
Speaker 3: Trump speaks at below that. What do you see it here?
Speaker 2: I love that you have that bit of information.
Speaker 1: Most viral tiktoks are at a fifth grade reading level,
Speaker 1: but Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Is at a fourth grade reading level.
Speaker 1: You know people on the left that love to be
Speaker 1: mad at the New York Times, and with good reason.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm speaking to my husband now. He is
Speaker 1: right to be mad at the New York Times. That's okay.
Speaker 1: I know the opinion page makes you mad sometimes. But
Speaker 1: this is an incredible story they did which took a
Speaker 1: ton of work, which is they fed into a computer
Speaker 1: all of these different Trump speeches and they were able
Speaker 1: to sort of analyze the words, the speech patterns, where
Speaker 1: he went with this stuff. And it's quite interesting and
Speaker 1: definitely worth reading, and the analysis found that Trump speaks
Speaker 1: at a fourth grade level.
Speaker 2: Far below that of his rivals.
Speaker 1: And again, I don't want to say anything nice about
Speaker 1: Rohn de Santis ever, but he speaks at an eighth
Speaker 1: grade level, which is almost high school, so good for him.
Speaker 1: Trump's speech complexity has not changed dramatically as he's aged.
Speaker 1: But that said, he uses thirty two percent more negative
Speaker 1: words than positive words, which again, in twenty sixteen, he
Speaker 1: gave a speech which you'll remember famous liberal George W.
Speaker 2: Bush described as some weird shit.
Speaker 1: Okay, And that was when he was only doing twenty
Speaker 1: one percent of negative words. Now it's gone up to
Speaker 1: thirty two percent. He uses swear words, and he's more disinhibited,
Speaker 1: which is a sign of aging than when he ran
Speaker 1: so really interesting piece with a ton of different bylines.
Speaker 1: Peter Baker leads it, it's definitely worth looking at this
Speaker 1: piece about Trump's language.
Speaker 3: Milly, there is really unexpectedly great economic news out this week,
Speaker 3: and I feel like it really broke the right wings
Speaker 3: Brad And says, usual.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are these jobs numbers that show basically that
Speaker 1: they've lowered a twelve month recession probability to five points
Speaker 1: this is from Goldman. It's a big deal, and it
Speaker 1: shows that we've hit that kind of soft landing those
Speaker 1: numbers that we had thought were impossible during the supply
Speaker 1: chain crisis.
Speaker 2: Basically, these is a blowout.
Speaker 1: Economic numbers, and I think that what's interesting is that
Speaker 1: a lot of the other numbers that were reversed down
Speaker 1: have now been reversed up. So the federal unemployment rate
Speaker 1: fell to four point one, which shows that the economy
Speaker 1: is resilient and that maybe the Fed doesn't need to
Speaker 1: lower rates anymore. The other the thing about it is
Speaker 1: that Republicans could not absorb this news in a way
Speaker 1: that was healthy and normal. For example, Rubio, Marco Rubio.
Speaker 2: Who used to be little market.
Speaker 1: Right, little marcall who used to be thought of as
Speaker 1: like a normal senator, but now because he wants to
Speaker 1: have the kind of virality or whatever it is that
Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green gets. He said on X the Juggernaut
Speaker 1: of Disinformation and misinformation, another fake jobs report out of
Speaker 1: the Biden Harris government today. Rubio said sixteen of the
Speaker 1: seventeen reports have been significantly revised downwards after media helps
Speaker 1: them with their fake headlines. Quote quote quote, but actually
Speaker 1: that's not even true. The latest jobs report shows we've
Speaker 1: actually seen that that's not true, that they've been reversed.
Speaker 1: We had a labor economist say he is just wrong
Speaker 1: and mischaracterizing the current data. The Bureau of Labor and
Speaker 1: Statistics we all know as a nonpartisan agency, they don't
Speaker 1: really give a fuck who's in power. And at least
Speaker 1: a few of the seemingly positive revisions are going to
Speaker 1: be negatively revised to the original revisions.
Speaker 2: That's really common.
Speaker 1: Rubio is just mad to see good news happening in
Speaker 1: the economy because he's worried it won't help Trump. Trump,
Speaker 1: of course said that all the jobs were being taken
Speaker 1: by immigrants, which is Trump's de facto on everything. So
Speaker 1: in fact, the jobs report were not fake news, they
Speaker 1: were real news.
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Speaker 1: Brick Wilson is the founder of The Lincoln Project and
Speaker 1: host of the Enemy's List Welcome Back, Too Fast Politics.
Speaker 6: Rick Wilson Junk Fast. How are you on this fine day.
Speaker 1: Well, your day is better than mine because you're in
Speaker 1: California and I'm in New York.
Speaker 6: That's a fact.
Speaker 2: That is a fact.
Speaker 1: But you are three hours behind, so I do have
Speaker 1: that on you. I want to start by talking about
Speaker 1: our text exchange, so because I think it's really important.
Speaker 1: The last couple days, there's been a real vibes based
Speaker 1: media meltdown about Vice President Harris, which has included a
Speaker 1: lot of pieces by smart people that we're friends with
Speaker 1: about how she's not doing enough and how this election
Speaker 1: is slipping through her fingers the way that it felt,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't actually true because the fundamentals were different
Speaker 1: for Hillary Clinton. But it felt to a lot of
Speaker 1: people in twenty sixteen that that last month where Hillary
Speaker 1: Clinton was fundraising and not on the trail in the
Speaker 1: way that Donald Trump was, that it was slipping through
Speaker 1: her fingers. So I feel like, if I'm having that anxiety,
Speaker 1: then our listeners are also having that anxiety. So I
Speaker 1: need you to talk them and also me at the
Speaker 1: same time, which is more bang for the book.
Speaker 2: Off the ledge.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing, Mally, Hillary in the last few weeks
Speaker 6: of the campaign of days was not on the air
Speaker 6: spending money in Wisconsin and other states. That is more
Speaker 6: important than showing up at four hundred interviews, you know,
Speaker 6: for the seventeenth time with the Washington Post or The
Speaker 6: New York Times or Bloomberg. The Harris team is not
Speaker 6: taking this lightly. They are pounding away in the States
Speaker 6: with massive television de buys, massive digital ad bys. They
Speaker 6: are doing the work. This is not some twenty sixteen
Speaker 6: on repeat thing. Because they learned those lessons, they understand it.
Speaker 6: I also want to say a number of these pieces
Speaker 6: that have come out have very much had that vibe
Speaker 6: of self serving bullshit. Well, she doesn't do interviews with
Speaker 6: our outlet, therefore it must be must be about to lose.
Speaker 6: I don't buy it. I think there are awful lot
Speaker 6: of these people who were at the Times in particular,
Speaker 6: who still haven't gotten there pound of flesh out of her,
Speaker 6: and so I think a lot of it comes down
Speaker 6: to the fact that they aren't getting the candy they
Speaker 6: want to eat. I don't think that that is a
Speaker 6: side of a doomed campaign. Look, Donald Trump hasn't led
Speaker 6: a pole in the national polls for now eleven days.
Speaker 6: This race is going his way. He's not moving any
Speaker 6: state numbers, you're going to see a lot of I
Speaker 6: know that. Something they're doing right now. They're trying to
Speaker 6: surge all the right wing polesters Trafalgar Rasmus and lunatics.
Speaker 2: Resputant ress mutants.
Speaker 6: They're trying to serve a lot of poles with those
Speaker 6: people right now in order to reset the polling averages
Speaker 6: and the aggregators and the betting markets a little bit,
Speaker 6: to make it look like a closer race than it
Speaker 6: really is. I don't think this race in the electoral
Speaker 6: college map right now is done. But you'd much rather
Speaker 6: be in Haerriss's position than Trump's. They're now at the
Speaker 6: point we're talking in the last four weeks of this campaign.
Speaker 6: They still just announced their field program for Wisconsin. And
Speaker 6: it's bullshit. It's a tempkin villa, isn't it.
Speaker 2: The guy with the long hair of the walk Away guy.
Speaker 6: It's that, and it's Charlie Kirk and it's Elon Musk,
Speaker 6: and it's some weird collab between all these freak show guys.
Speaker 6: And look, I just don't see this race right now
Speaker 6: at the fundamentals level. The vibes level is always going
Speaker 6: to be what it's gonna be but at the fundamentals level,
Speaker 6: at the money, at the organization level, at the media level,
Speaker 6: and at the polling level. This is not a race.
Speaker 6: If it was a national race, it would be over
Speaker 6: and done. It's an electoral college, right, so it's a
Speaker 6: little closer. But I don't see great things in the
Speaker 6: future for the Trump people in Pennsylvania. I don't see
Speaker 6: great things for the future for them in Wisconsin. I
Speaker 6: think all the vectors are moving in the right direction. Again,
Speaker 6: close race. Can't take your foot off the gas, can't blink,
Speaker 6: can't stop. But they're not gonna do what Hillary did
Speaker 6: and say, you know, we're gonna save a lot of
Speaker 6: this money for Wisconsin because we don't need it, because
Speaker 6: we're up three points. Again, I'm clear eyed about everything.
Speaker 6: Trump has a powerful grip over a big part of
Speaker 6: the Republican base that has never waivered, but that base
Speaker 6: smaller than it's ever been. There are more and more
Speaker 6: people listening to the messages that say, hey, if you're
Speaker 6: a Republican, you can be a Republican and a conservative
Speaker 6: and still not vote for Donald Trump. That's a great
Speaker 6: message to hear, and that.
Speaker 1: Is what happened in Wisconsin, Right, you mean this year, yeah,
Speaker 1: in that hand, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Liz Cheney talk, yeah.
Speaker 6: My organization, Our organization is pounding away every single day.
Speaker 6: Say to Republicans, this is not your values. These people
Speaker 6: don't believe what you believe. Run like hell, You'll you'll
Speaker 6: be food as you get away from the blast radius.
Speaker 6: You don't have to do this anymore. You're not stuck
Speaker 6: with this anymore. And there are a lot of Republicans
Speaker 6: who in twenty sixteen, we had a lot of quiet
Speaker 6: Trump voters and we didn't know they were out there.
Speaker 2: They were low propensity, they were ones and twos, right.
Speaker 6: Ones and twos. And we had in twenty twenty, we
Speaker 6: had a hand full of quiet Biden voters and they
Speaker 6: showed up, made a difference. But now we're looking at
Speaker 6: a world where I think there are some quiet Harris
Speaker 6: voters and Republicans out there. We're seeing some evidence of
Speaker 6: that polling. It's developing. Still, it's not a done deal,
Speaker 6: but this race is not what it was in the
Speaker 6: Vibe world. Ever, She's always had more of an advantage
Speaker 6: in this contest than people think she's had.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping you could do a minute or two to
Speaker 1: talk about how much higher her favorability is.
Speaker 6: Well, let me stay with Donald Trump. Donald Trump's always
Speaker 6: had a very interesting boundary in his polling, and you
Speaker 6: couldn't get him much above forty one percent or pretty
Speaker 6: much below forty three percent. It is risted down wall.
Speaker 2: He had a ceiling and a floor, right.
Speaker 6: A ceiling and a floor. Right now, Kamala Harris is
Speaker 6: she's favorable, and she's running about ten points above where
Speaker 6: she was when she got in the race, quelve points
Speaker 6: about where she was and when she got the race.
Speaker 6: So right now you have Kamala Harris with very solid
Speaker 6: favorability and you have Donald Trump with very solid negatives.
Speaker 6: Donald Trump nationally is not a beloved figure. Okay, He's
Speaker 6: got about a six percent unfavorable ratio at about a
Speaker 6: forty three percent faith in a lot of polls, and
Speaker 6: like I said, in most polls now it's drifted down
Speaker 6: to about forty one. So you've got a much more
Speaker 6: likable candidate in Kamala Harris, and you've got a much
Speaker 6: more unlikable candidate in Donald Trump. And when you have that,
Speaker 6: that contest that had to head poles matter, they had
Speaker 6: to head numbers matter, and all these states, they're close.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna I'm not going to bs. They're all
Speaker 6: in the in the electoral college. But the direction of
Speaker 6: the trend line is moving her way in all these.
Speaker 2: Places, and it continues to write.
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, and look, we're going to end up
Speaker 6: with an election in the electoral college where it's probably
Speaker 6: going to be you know, a half a million votes
Speaker 6: either way decide this election. And that sounds crazy, but
Speaker 6: that's how this is sort of structured. Right now. We
Speaker 6: will have to go in and be prepared for Donald
Speaker 6: Trump and his people to engage in their Shenana Gannery
Speaker 6: and their bullshit at the end of this election, to
Speaker 6: say we were cheated, we have to do a recount,
Speaker 6: blah blah blah. But I think she's going to win
Speaker 6: this thing, Molly. The fundamentals are all in her stack
Speaker 6: and they're not moving in his direction.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to say that her team has really done
Speaker 1: the stuff that needs to be done in a way
Speaker 1: that I think, like, for example, there was all this
Speaker 1: anxiety and now she's announced that she's doing all of
Speaker 1: these really important media heads.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the campaign is running at a very very very
Speaker 6: very high level. The campaign is moving in a lot
Speaker 6: of ways. That echoes some success stories in the Democratic
Speaker 6: Party right now, where the numbers are closer in the
Speaker 6: Southwest states, particularly that anyone had an expectation they would be.
Speaker 6: The numbers are closer in places like Florida and Texas
Speaker 6: that anyone thought they should be, and that's lifting up
Speaker 6: a lot of Democratic candidates in those places. You know,
Speaker 6: Jackie Rosen in Nevada, Rubin in Arizona. Even as we
Speaker 6: look at the scrut in Ohio and other places, Pennsylvania's
Speaker 6: looking pretty good, Ohio's looking pretty good. And when you've
Speaker 6: got you know Rick Scott, who has spent you know,
Speaker 6: sixty five miss billion dollars of his own money in
Speaker 6: Florida and he's tied with DMP. Now I know for
Speaker 6: a fact his people are on the phone begging for money,
Speaker 6: begging for him to put more money in the superpack
Speaker 6: because they're afraid all these things are adding up to
Speaker 6: you know, there's a broader blue surge, if not a
Speaker 6: blue wave in the country. Look, Trump has also engaged
Speaker 6: in the most desperate level of campaigning I've seen even
Speaker 6: from Trump in the last few weeks.
Speaker 1: I need you to do two seconds on the jump,
Speaker 1: that record scratching Elon Musk jump that stopped all of
Speaker 1: our hearts and made him America his weirdest immigrant.
Speaker 6: Discuss that expression on his face during the jump. It's
Speaker 6: seared in my mind now. But Elon Musk has gone
Speaker 6: full red pill. He's a full on trumper now. None
Speaker 6: of it, at the end of the day, outside of
Speaker 6: our weird social media bubble, will be truly consequential, except
Speaker 6: insofar as he manipulates the Twitter.
Speaker 1: Machine, the algorithm on Twitter. But not a lot of
Speaker 1: people aren't on Twitter anymore, right, correct.
Speaker 6: A lot of people moved to threads and elsewhere. I
Speaker 6: think Elon, as somebody jokingly wrote the other day, it's
Speaker 6: like ketamine meat adderall on the stage, you know.
Speaker 2: And that is just a joke, is it, though? That's
Speaker 2: just a joke.
Speaker 6: As we look at that moment on the stage, as
Speaker 6: we look at this idea that Elon is going to
Speaker 6: be this like big mover in the Maga movement, you
Speaker 6: know what, He's in the Maga movement. He's now part
Speaker 6: of it. He's now bought into it. I don't think
Speaker 6: that I've ever seen two thirsty your motherfuckers on a
Speaker 6: stage together I don't know that it means anything beyond
Speaker 6: inside the red pill works.
Speaker 1: Right, So let's just for a second talk about the hurricane,
Speaker 1: because there is a lot of anxiety in the mainstream
Speaker 1: media that this hurricane could be there's another hurricane.
Speaker 2: I don't have to tell you. You both live in Florida.
Speaker 1: There's another hurricane coming that's going to hit just the
Speaker 1: state weirdly, like they're coming for Desantas.
Speaker 6: Great to the town I was born in Tampa, Florida,
Speaker 6: like a freight train right now, it's a Cat three
Speaker 6: or Cat four on impact. It's already an area that
Speaker 6: was so super saturated and so flooded just ten days ago.
Speaker 6: Now that there's a lot of concerns that this could
Speaker 6: be a truly catastrophic impact on Tampa. And look, this
Speaker 6: is again, since they control the weather, I don't know
Speaker 6: why they're going right at a area.
Speaker 1: I was just I was about to say, like, this
Speaker 1: is bad for the Jews. We tend not to control
Speaker 1: hurricanes during yamki Bar, but I just was curious. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, we have like these this hurricane, the first hurricane,
Speaker 1: and the second hurricane, the first hurricane. Still the cleanup
Speaker 1: is not done. There's a disinformation barrage right with Laura Lumer.
Speaker 1: It's somewhere in the close to the helm, and there
Speaker 1: are Republicans. Does Tom Tillis ever say like enough is
Speaker 1: enough here or now?
Speaker 6: All the Republican governors, Republican governor of Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee,
Speaker 6: and Virginia, our old buddy Glenn Younkin, all of them said,
Speaker 6: FEMA's working great, We're doing our best. It's hard work,
Speaker 6: and look, I'm really angry about it, Moy. For one
Speaker 6: reason is that I know how many of this emergency
Speaker 6: operations stuff, how complicated it is, how difficult it is.
Speaker 6: There are tens of thousands of FEMA workers, National guardsmen,
Speaker 6: You've got state emergency operations people. You've got volunteers from
Speaker 6: the Red Cross. You've got people from the rescue organizations
Speaker 6: like the Cajun Navy and South in Louisiana and Virginia
Speaker 6: water rescue people. You've got World Central Kitchen. You've got
Speaker 6: all these folks trying to do a great job down there. Unfortunately,
Speaker 6: on the MAGA side of this, they are out there
Speaker 6: lying their asses off and saying, oh, well, they can't
Speaker 6: be rescued because immigrants took all the money. It is
Speaker 6: just so crude and stupid, and.
Speaker 1: It's also totally fascinating, right because Trump used FEMA money
Speaker 1: for immigrants.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly actly. He used FEMA money to pay for
Speaker 6: kids in cages and some other immigration stuff during his terms.
Speaker 6: But Biden has not. And the problem with Elon right
Speaker 6: now controls the largest social media site in our politics.
Speaker 6: He's been spreading this misinformation at a level that, as
Speaker 6: Trump would say, no one's ever seen before. I don't
Speaker 6: think there's a situation right now where we can do
Speaker 6: much about it. I mean, they're going to do this.
Speaker 6: This is feeding the right wing media machine, and they've
Speaker 6: been desperate to get Trump on a new strategic tack,
Speaker 6: and this is what they're trying to do it with.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to work. And I'll tell
Speaker 6: you why. The practical nature of the logistics of western
Speaker 6: North Carolina and the rescue effort, you know, those folks
Speaker 6: are those folks are largely going to be offline for
Speaker 6: the next month. The roads, the comms, the cell service,
Speaker 6: the power. It's going to be slowly rebuilt. It's not
Speaker 6: going to be rebuilt because Donald Trump is tweeting stupid shit.
Speaker 6: It's going to be in trucks in their neighborhood. But
Speaker 6: government has done a full press on them. I know
Speaker 6: people from every you know, federal agency are on the
Speaker 6: ground there trying to make this thing less of a
Speaker 6: devastating historical event and to repair it quickly. Now, I
Speaker 6: will say this, in Florida, I'm absolutely fucking livid. I'm
Speaker 6: furious beyond words that Ron de Santis has once again
Speaker 6: fucked his own state because we have spent the last
Speaker 6: three years of his administration in a war on woke
Speaker 6: And luckily we were lesbian in school, but we highest
Speaker 6: property insurance rates in the country. We are totally unprepared
Speaker 6: for another storm of the category that Milton will be
Speaker 6: hitting one of the largest metro areas in Florida. The
Speaker 6: current track, it's going to run through Tampa and head
Speaker 6: over to Orlando. This is not great news. This is
Speaker 6: a bad thing. And so you know, DeSantis has deployed
Speaker 6: all these Florida resources up to North Carolina in an
Speaker 6: effort to play the game of oh Vima won't help
Speaker 6: them because of the immigrants. But he's now going to
Speaker 6: be under the gun again. This is a guy who
Speaker 6: years now has ignored a gigantic red alert issue for
Speaker 6: the people of Florida. When even Rick Scott and Marco
Speaker 6: Rubio are separating from Ron DeSantis on this next storm,
Speaker 6: that's a big deal. That's how incompetent this leadership has
Speaker 6: been and how completely arrogant he's been to think that
Speaker 6: the only thing we needed in the state of Florida
Speaker 6: was to make sure no one said that we're gay
Speaker 6: in a classroom.
Speaker 1: Right that it turns out that that does not prevent
Speaker 1: climate change.
Speaker 6: Strangely enough, thank you, Rick Wilson. I wanted to give
Speaker 6: you one more piece of optimistic news right now. In
Speaker 6: early voting, okay, early voting, and in early ballot requests,
Speaker 6: the Democrats are running at about a sixty percent to
Speaker 6: thirty percent ratio over Republican ballot requests and early voting requests.
Speaker 6: So that is up from twenty twenty two, and it
Speaker 6: is up by a lot from twenty twenty. The program
Speaker 6: that's been run by the Harris campaign in that regard
Speaker 6: to get out the vote early is working. It is
Speaker 6: that fraction.
Speaker 2: Oh, that is very good, Rick Wilson, Thank you all.
Speaker 6: We're welcome.
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Speaker 1: Laura Gillon is the Democratic No in New York's fourth district.
Speaker 1: Welcome Too Fast Politics.
Speaker 7: Laura, Thank you, Mollie. Excited to be here.
Speaker 2: You are running for Congress.
Speaker 1: Tell us what your district is, what it looks like,
Speaker 1: give us a little sort of two minute explainer on
Speaker 1: your race.
Speaker 7: Okay, so my district is New York for it's a
Speaker 7: district on the island. It's the south shore of NASA County.
Speaker 7: It is a district that is wonderfully diverse.
Speaker 2: It's a district I have really deep roots.
Speaker 7: My Italian immigrant grandfather king with his young family and
Speaker 7: settled in the district in a town called Baldwin and
Speaker 7: got a job in the town of Himstead as a
Speaker 7: sanitation worker and worked on the back of a garbage truck.
Speaker 7: My mother grew up where there is no money for
Speaker 7: girls to go to college, so she did not have
Speaker 7: that opportunity, but do their sacrifices, I was able to
Speaker 7: go to Georgetown, and in two generations we saw my
Speaker 7: family go from the back of the garbage truck to
Speaker 7: the owners CEO's office when I was elected supervisor and
Speaker 7: CEO of that same town, the town of Hempstead, which
Speaker 7: is the largest town in America. So my congressional district,
Speaker 7: District four is largely comprised of the town of Hempstead,
Speaker 7: with the city of Long Beach added.
Speaker 2: To it as well. So it's a district that I represented.
Speaker 1: Already explain to us a little bit about your opponent
Speaker 1: and his recent scandals.
Speaker 7: So look, you know, Anthony dis Gazito was just there
Speaker 7: was just reporting in the New York Times a thorough
Speaker 7: investigative report that you know, found that you know, as
Speaker 7: soon as he got into Congress, he put his fiance's
Speaker 7: daughter on his congressional payroll, which is against nepotism rules.
Speaker 7: You know, Well, let the Ethics Committee decide. But it
Speaker 7: appears that it could violate the House rules of ethics.
Speaker 7: And then kind of inexplicably, but his mistress on the
Speaker 7: payroll with his fiance's daughter in his district office.
Speaker 2: There is a rule in.
Speaker 7: The ethics community that you can't, i think, be having
Speaker 7: a sexual relationship with someone who's on your role, and
Speaker 7: so it appears that that would violate the ethics role.
Speaker 7: But again we'll let the Ethics committee decide whether or
Speaker 7: not there's a violation there. But it shows a lot
Speaker 7: about his values. Yeah, I think it shows a lot
Speaker 7: about his intelligence.
Speaker 2: It's a sitcom, but not a good sitcom.
Speaker 7: No. But see, this is the thing, like the taxpayers
Speaker 7: were left holding the bag west thirty thousand dollars that
Speaker 7: were paid to these women and all of these those
Speaker 7: payments stopped, by the way, is because he got caught
Speaker 7: because the mistress's husband told. And this is what I
Speaker 7: think what's reported in the new York Times told the
Speaker 7: son of the fiance, and so that that's what ended
Speaker 7: the marriage and ended the payments to these women. But
Speaker 7: the taxpayers shouldn't be paying for this, like this is
Speaker 7: the kind of nepotism cronyism that I ran to extinguish
Speaker 7: in the town of Henstead. He was peddling it there.
Speaker 7: He got reprimanded at a Supreme court for doing this
Speaker 7: kind of stuff in the town of Hempstead, and he
Speaker 7: still continued to do it in his commrecial office. Peoples
Speaker 7: are sick of this stuff. They want epicators who are
Speaker 7: just going to go and fall problems and start making
Speaker 7: their lives better instead of finger pointing and carrying on
Speaker 7: this kind of nonsense in their office.
Speaker 1: Yes, I am actually very excited to have you on
Speaker 1: this podcast because I heard you speak at an Emily's
Speaker 1: List lunch and you were really great, and I actually
Speaker 1: made the effort to get you because, first of all,
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, Democrats lost a bunch of seats
Speaker 1: that were in Biden districts or very competitive Swingy districts.
Speaker 2: And maybe that.
Speaker 1: Was because of the governor, and maybe it was because
Speaker 1: of the midterm, but sort of Democrats took their eye
Speaker 1: off the ball. You are one of those seats, and
Speaker 1: you have this amazing story of having worked in the
Speaker 1: district and coming from the district.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, I.
Speaker 7: Mean look in twenty twenty two, I can say in
Speaker 7: my race it was a couple of things.
Speaker 2: It was mostly lack of resources.
Speaker 7: You thought in the race really late because nobody was
Speaker 7: expecting being combig Democrat Cathleen Rights to retire, so I
Speaker 7: had a very short runway to raise the resources you
Speaker 7: need to win an election in the most expensive media market.
Speaker 7: And then we had redistricting which kicked our primaries to August,
Speaker 7: so you know, I was I'd spend a lot of
Speaker 7: money on an expensive primary at the end of August
Speaker 7: and then start to refill my coffers in September when
Speaker 7: you're supposed to be kicking into full gear television and
Speaker 7: try to raise money again. And no one in DC
Speaker 7: thought took this race seriously. Unfortunately, they thought it was
Speaker 7: a safe seat. We kept trying to tell them it
Speaker 7: is not safe. But the news is that has all
Speaker 7: been corrected this citing.
Speaker 2: Yes, it really has been.
Speaker 1: The d triple C has been and I think just
Speaker 1: really putting their foot on the gas. Talk to me
Speaker 1: about what that looks like for you. Yeah, this has
Speaker 1: been a totally different race for me. Got in really early,
Speaker 1: so I'd had that long runway to raise the resources
Speaker 1: I need to make sure we're on TV communicating with
Speaker 1: voters telling them what's at stake in this election and
Speaker 1: how important it is that they come out and vote,
Speaker 1: and that they come out and vote for me. So
Speaker 1: we've had great fundraising. We just finished K three with
Speaker 1: a really amazing number. We raised two point four million
Speaker 1: in T three, But that money's going right out the door.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so expensive to run these ads that
Speaker 1: you see on TV on cable, so researchers are something
Speaker 1: we always need more of and are happy to accept.
Speaker 1: But also we have an organizing strategy that has really
Speaker 1: not been seen in Nasha County other than perhaps for
Speaker 1: the special election of Tom Swasey in February, which worked, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: It worked.
Speaker 7: It's constituency driven organizing, making sure we have we are
Speaker 7: reaching out to all our different ethnic groups, religious groups,
Speaker 7: and just engaging all these communities and getting them excited
Speaker 7: about the election and coming out to vote. I think
Speaker 7: we knocked ninety thousand doors already, and people are coming
Speaker 7: from not just this district but from other places because
Speaker 7: they know how pritically important it is that we win
Speaker 7: this seat. Because this is a seat we can win.
Speaker 7: If Democrats come out to vote, we are going to win.
Speaker 7: We have a registration edge. We just need people to
Speaker 7: come out to vote. That's what went wrong in twenty
Speaker 7: twenty two. It's low turnout.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have.
Speaker 7: The resources to get people out and had this field organization.
Speaker 7: On the Republican side, they had Les Delden working this
Speaker 7: area really real hard because he knew the only way
Speaker 7: he could get to that governor's mansion is every like
Speaker 7: mad up person onlinely came out to vote, so.
Speaker 2: He worked this area hard.
Speaker 7: They only had midterm drop off on the Republican side
Speaker 7: of thirty thousand voters in this district. On our side,
Speaker 7: we had drop off of one hundred thousand voters and
Speaker 7: I only lost by nine seven hundred votes. If ten
Speaker 7: percent were Democrats showed up, I would be in Congress
Speaker 7: right now. So we're not letting that happen this cycle.
Speaker 1: What I think is very interesting about these quote unquote
Speaker 1: moderate Republicans right like Desposito Lawler, This crew are pretending
Speaker 1: that they're moderates, but the reality is they go into
Speaker 1: Congress and they vote for every crazy Mike Johnson thing. Right,
Speaker 1: So they voted to impeach Biden, they voted to impeach
Speaker 1: my orcists. All of them have done the same kind
Speaker 1: of stuff that Trumpers do, right, I mean, they have
Speaker 1: voting records. Ds Posito has a voting record that's almost
Speaker 1: the same as Marjorie Taylor Green.
Speaker 7: Right, Yes, and he said he respects Marjorie Taylor Green.
Speaker 2: Amazing Marjorie Taylor Green.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, but yesterday she
Speaker 1: tweeted about how Jews they could be Jews could not
Speaker 1: be Jews. Sounds like Jews as a Jew, tend to
Speaker 1: feel like she's talking about me can control the weather.
Speaker 1: I mean, so if you're I mean, so you're running
Speaker 1: against someone who respects her, Yes, said it to Jake Tapper.
Speaker 1: I believe that's amazing, but it is. I mean, it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised at how like the mainstream media is so
Speaker 1: desperate to have normal Republicans that they'll put people like
Speaker 1: ds Posito and Lawler on television when they really are
Speaker 1: not mainstream Republicans not.
Speaker 7: He has voted and he voted for Mike Johnson to
Speaker 7: be Speaker of the House. He is as right as
Speaker 7: you can get. He sponsored the Life at Conception Act
Speaker 7: of a national abortion Band no exceptions. That the most
Speaker 7: traconian law that you can imagine, no idea he voted
Speaker 7: for him. I mean, he is so out of line
Speaker 7: with the values of this district. He even voted for
Speaker 7: that bill to restore Confederate monuments at Arlington Cemetery. Twenty
Speaker 7: percent of this district are black and brown people. Right
Speaker 7: to restore a Confederate monument. He is not moderate. He
Speaker 7: will do whatever what his party bosses telling him to do.
Speaker 2: That's so crazy.
Speaker 1: But I think also it's important to realize that if
Speaker 1: Democrats are able to take back the House, there'll be
Speaker 1: a check God forbid. You know, you guys will if
Speaker 1: you are elected to Congress, certify the election and if
Speaker 1: Trump wins, which will be catastrophic for everything from climate
Speaker 1: to democracy. But do you think that you know, at
Speaker 1: least you guys will be able to provide a check
Speaker 1: on that, right?
Speaker 7: Absolutely? I mean that is why this race, and these
Speaker 7: really top targeted races are so crucial. For our democracy
Speaker 7: because we don't know what's going to happen in the Senate.
Speaker 2: It's a tough map.
Speaker 7: We don't know what's going to happen for the White
Speaker 7: House because it looks like it's going to be a
Speaker 7: tight race. We can get the House back if we
Speaker 7: win the seats. These are winnable races as long as
Speaker 7: we have the resources and the people. The body's knocking
Speaker 7: on the doors to get people out to vote, because
Speaker 7: we need to have at least one branch of the
Speaker 7: government to protect us from whatever might come out of
Speaker 7: the White House or the Senate.
Speaker 2: If we lose control of the Senate. Yeah, it's really important.
Speaker 1: And if Democrats pook the House and Harris wins, which
Speaker 1: is what all of us who believe in democracy would like,
Speaker 1: what will happen is that you guys will be there
Speaker 1: to swear her in and to certify the election. We
Speaker 1: won't have to worry about whether or not Mike Johnson
Speaker 1: feels like certifying the election, right.
Speaker 2: Right, or he's afraid to certify the election. It's such
Speaker 2: a crazy thing.
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about what your district looks like,
Speaker 1: because it's a really interesting district.
Speaker 7: Yes, it's a wonderfully diverse district. It's about in terms
Speaker 7: of demographics, twenty percent Black, about sixteen percent Latino, roughly
Speaker 7: seven percent AAPI, and then the balance would be white.
Speaker 7: And we had a lot of different We have the Bytowns,
Speaker 7: which is startably a very large Jewish area of the district.
Speaker 7: It's become more orthodox now. It's a very compact district.
Speaker 7: It runs from Garden City, Westberry, down to our beaches,
Speaker 7: from the Queen's Border and out to the Wantass Seaford area.
Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit about what you're
Speaker 1: doing to win in your district? It's ads, but it's
Speaker 1: also what events going around, door knocking, What are people
Speaker 1: doing for you and what are you doing?
Speaker 7: Yeah, so we are you know, look, we are hard
Speaker 7: at work. I am in this race to win it.
Speaker 7: We are knocking on doors. We opened up six offices
Speaker 7: across the district. We're doing meet and greets, We're doing
Speaker 7: coffee meetings. We're going to start doing train stations. That's
Speaker 7: a typical way you campaign.
Speaker 2: On Long Island.
Speaker 7: You go to Long Island Railroad train station in the
Speaker 7: morning and top on their way to work.
Speaker 2: So we're going to start that.
Speaker 7: I think next week, and you know, raising the money
Speaker 7: that we need to pay for these ads and pay
Speaker 7: for the mail because that's a really important tool to
Speaker 7: communicate to voters.
Speaker 2: What are the concerns that you're hearing?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: What are people?
Speaker 1: I mean, do people understand what a danger trump Ism is?
Speaker 1: Do they remember that? Are you hearing about inflation? What
Speaker 1: are you hearing?
Speaker 7: Well, there's definitely one thing that has really resonated, I
Speaker 7: think since twenty twenty two, since the Dobbs decision is
Speaker 7: the real threat to our reproductive freedom. I think in
Speaker 7: blue states there is a certain complacency after dob like, Oh,
Speaker 7: we're safe in New York, So I'm not as worried
Speaker 7: about that. Now people are seeing what the aftermath of
Speaker 7: Dobbs is. That Clarence Thomas laid it out in his
Speaker 7: concurring opinion that they're not just coming for choice, They're
Speaker 7: coming for IVF were contraception, They're going to come for
Speaker 7: LGBTQ rights. That was just the beginning, and we're seeing
Speaker 7: this play out in some of the red states now
Speaker 7: where women are dying because they're not getting health care
Speaker 7: that they need. And so it's an issue that people know,
Speaker 7: whatever the Republicans of the fake modern Republicans are saying,
Speaker 7: now when push comes to shove and get pushed to
Speaker 7: sign a national abortion bill, if the Republicans are in charge,
Speaker 7: that is what it's going to happen. They're not fooling
Speaker 7: people on that issue. So that's an issue that a
Speaker 7: lot of people are concerned about. I mean, look, they're
Speaker 7: concerned about the cost of living. This is a really
Speaker 7: expensive place to live. Losing that state and local tax
Speaker 7: deduction really hurts people. We pay among the highest property taxes.
Speaker 7: And you know, my opponent, Anthony Dias Canzita said he's
Speaker 7: going to get us that tax deduction back. He's been
Speaker 7: in the majority for almost two years and he hasn't.
Speaker 7: So cost of living concerns is a really big issue here.
Speaker 7: And quite frankly, the border is a really big issue.
Speaker 7: People are really concerned about it because they saw the
Speaker 7: forty thousand migrants that were busted to New York City
Speaker 7: by Greg Abbott, a move by the way that my
Speaker 7: opponent applauded instead it was a good move to do.
Speaker 7: And they're concerned about the border. They're concerned about fentanyl
Speaker 7: coming across the border, and so it's an issue that
Speaker 7: needs to be tackled. And you know, again, this is
Speaker 7: typical of my opponent and some of his colleagues. They're
Speaker 7: talking about it, they're campaigning on it, they're saying it's
Speaker 7: a crisis, it's a disaster. But they're the ones in power,
Speaker 7: they are in the majority, and they're not doing anything
Speaker 7: to fix the problem because they're just trying to campaign
Speaker 7: on it. Two years they've done nothing.
Speaker 1: When Harris gave her speech at the border, she actually
Speaker 1: talked in a really detailed way about how to stop
Speaker 1: the flow of fentanyl, and she explained that there are
Speaker 1: two cartels that are bringing much of the fentanyl in,
Speaker 1: and then there are the different components of fentanyl, some
Speaker 1: of which comes I mean, it just all comes from
Speaker 1: different places.
Speaker 2: And how you would do that?
Speaker 1: Do you think that voters got that message and processed it,
Speaker 1: And do you think that there's enough of a like
Speaker 1: she actually has a plan to stop fentanyl.
Speaker 2: I think it.
Speaker 7: Needs to be amplified. I think she needs to put
Speaker 7: it out in more paid communications what her plan is,
Speaker 7: and you know, and her experience as a prosecutor and
Speaker 7: how she knows how to tackle this problem. I think
Speaker 7: I think it would be helpful for her to like
Speaker 7: really amplify that message because it is a message that
Speaker 7: is not just a top issue in my district. I'm
Speaker 7: hearing it from my other candidates and running in other districts.
Speaker 7: It's it's a real concern and it should be a concern.
Speaker 7: Our immigration system has been broken for a long time.
Speaker 7: It needs to be fixed. We need people to get
Speaker 7: the political courage to reach across the aisle because you
Speaker 7: no matter who wins, our majorities are not going to
Speaker 7: be like they needs to be in the past because
Speaker 7: the way districts have been gerrymandered and the majority is
Speaker 7: not going to be that large. So if you want
Speaker 7: a comprehensive legislation with the buying of the American people
Speaker 7: that's going to last and not just be thrown out
Speaker 7: when you know when the next election happens, you need
Speaker 7: to have by parties in leadership. We saw that going
Speaker 7: forward in the Senate. Right, we saw that bill. It
Speaker 7: was a hard fought compromise, but Donald Trump wanted to
Speaker 7: campaign on it, so he killed it. Was that ill perfect,
Speaker 7: probably not perfect. It didn't address certain things that we
Speaker 7: wanted to address. It might not have bet on it
Speaker 7: be aggressive as aggressive that it should have been in
Speaker 7: some parts, but it was a compromise and it was
Speaker 7: a step forward. And what we've had then is nothing.
Speaker 7: So this is something that absolutely must happen in the
Speaker 7: next Congress, and it must be done in a bipartisan fashion.
Speaker 7: And that's what we're not seeing from the Republican members
Speaker 7: of the House. They just sat on their hands and
Speaker 7: the bill that they did pass had no input from Democrats.
Speaker 7: Now one Democrats lined off on that bill. So that's
Speaker 7: performative politics, that's not legislating, right, right, right.
Speaker 1: What do you think the Harris campaign could be doing
Speaker 1: better that would help you when in your discher I.
Speaker 7: Think it's great that she's talking a lot about Project
Speaker 7: twenty twenty five and some of the dangerous things in there.
Speaker 7: I think talking about the border and articulating how she's
Speaker 7: going to work to solve that crisis. I think that
Speaker 7: and what executive power she will bring to the table
Speaker 7: to solve to try to help work with Congress to
Speaker 7: solve the crisis, I think that would be very helpful.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think that voters understand that there was a
Speaker 1: real agreement and Trump killed it or now?
Speaker 7: I do think that they understand that I think that
Speaker 7: certain people don't care. I think people who are undecided
Speaker 7: or more open minded about it can see quite clearly.
Speaker 7: I mean, this is not just this is not hyperbole,
Speaker 7: This is information.
Speaker 2: This is what happened.
Speaker 7: So and you have Republicans saying like this was one
Speaker 7: of the most conservative bills that we could have passed ever,
Speaker 7: and they killed it like their own plan is calling
Speaker 7: them out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, James Langford from Oklahoma, thank you, thank you, thank you, Laura,
Speaker 1: thank you so.
Speaker 3: Much, Noon Rick Wilson, Malla Jeong Fast.
Speaker 2: Do you want to know what my moment of fakery is?
Speaker 6: I certainly do.
Speaker 2: There's a member of the Trump family who.
Speaker 1: Despises me in a way that I feel Eric should,
Speaker 1: but I'm just not even on his radar. Do you
Speaker 1: know who that member the Trump family is.
Speaker 6: That'd be Cochley von Felsson.
Speaker 1: It would be fayle Son von felsn Don Junior, who
Speaker 1: recently tweeted that I was getting my own show. It
Speaker 1: was not true, but it was so infuriating to him
Speaker 1: that it captured his imagination anyway. Read a piece in
Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal by Molly Ball where she says
Speaker 1: that actually the New gatekeeper of Donald Trump. Well, in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, it was his beautiful and totally, i want
Speaker 1: to say, enabling daughter.
Speaker 6: Definitely not the subject of any bizarre of his incess fantasies.
Speaker 1: Yes, and also not complicit in all ways that she's
Speaker 1: now moved on to Miami and trying to make it
Speaker 1: in high society. Her brother, who is really bubble down
Speaker 1: on the basist instincts of trump Ism, is now, according
Speaker 1: to this piece in the Wall Street Journal, his daddy's gatekeeper.
Speaker 1: You know, I was having a few days where I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm definitely not going to get MO. I'm
Speaker 1: not on anyone's radar. I'm not going to get MO.
Speaker 1: But wow, I'm definitely going to get MO. So that
Speaker 1: is Donald Trump Junior sending me to Gitmo. Is my
Speaker 1: moment of fuckery? Rick Wilson, what's your moment of fuckery?
Speaker 6: Leela Suckery? Is the entire maga right wing media ecosystem
Speaker 6: right now that are lying their asses off about what's
Speaker 6: happening in North Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina, Virginia, and Florida.
Speaker 6: These people are sick. They are stoking these insane conspiracy
Speaker 6: theories that range from Marjorie Taylor Green saying they control
Speaker 6: the weather, to these lies that immigrants are getting hundreds
Speaker 6: of thousands of dollars a year but everyone else in
Speaker 6: the zone of the hurricane is only going to get
Speaker 6: seven hundred and fifty dollars. All these lies are ratcheting
Speaker 6: up a sense of despair and these conspiracy for no reason.
Speaker 6: And you're seeing how thoroughly effective the right wing media
Speaker 6: ecosystem is at breaking the mental constructs that should underpin
Speaker 6: people's thoughts about the world and turning them into this
Speaker 6: bizarro fantasy land. I mean, and I know they don't
Speaker 6: fucking care. It is horrible for this country what they're doing.
Speaker 6: It is terrible for this country. And Elon is the
Speaker 6: chief these rocket fuel for this stuff, and he has
Speaker 6: been a promulgator of some of the worst and most
Speaker 6: destructive of these stories. So that's my moment of fuckeray.
Speaker 2: Thanks Rick Wilson.
Speaker 6: Yuh.
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