1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: today's best minds and Elon Musk jumped up and down 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: at a Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. Do with that 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: information what you will? We have such a great show 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: for you today. The Lincoln Project's Rick Wilson takes the 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: temperature of VP Harris's presidential campaign. Then we'll talk to 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Laura Gillen, who is running against Congressman Anthony di Esposito 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: in New York's fourth District, a hotly contested race. 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: But first the news. 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 3: So Mary, Governor Walls did the thing that a lot 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: of people get testy about as he went on Fox News, 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: and I think it went pretty well. Why don't we 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: listen to him real quick? Can you tell us what 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 3: you think? 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 4: I want to talk of that abortion too, because this 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 4: came up at the debate. It's been a winning argument 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 4: for Democrats on many ballots. But I want to clarify 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 4: what the law is there in Minnesota. Abortion Finder, a 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 4: website that helps women find access, says abortion is legal 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 4: throughout pregnancy in Minnesota. There is no ban or limit 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 4: on abortion in Minnesota. Based on how far along in 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 4: a pregnancy you are, you sign the bill that makes 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 4: it legal through. 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: All nine months. 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 4: Is that a position you think Democrats should advocate for nationally? 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 5: Look, the Vice President, I have been clear the restoration 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 5: of Roe versus way. It is what we're asking for, 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 5: way to make our own the law. The law is 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 5: very clear. It does not change that that has been 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 5: debunked on every occasion. 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 4: Itzy, let what you signed is there's not a single 33 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 4: limit through nine months of pregnancy. Row had a trimester 34 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 4: framework that did have limits through the pregnancy. The Minnesota 35 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 4: law does not have that. 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 5: This puts This puts the decision with the woman in 37 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 5: her healthcare providers. The situation we have is when you 38 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: don't have the ability of healthcare providers to provide that, 39 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 5: that's who you end up with a situation like Amanda's 40 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 5: Warsky in Texas where they are afraid to do what's necessary. 41 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 5: This doesn't change anything. It puts the decision back on 42 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 5: to the woman, to the physicians, and we know that 43 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 5: this is simply something to be brought up. 44 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: Tis to be very clear. 45 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: Donald Trump's asking for a nation wide abortion bank, and 46 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 5: again we don't see this. 47 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: She said repeatedly that she will not sign a national 48 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: abortion band. Are you calling that just it's a flat 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 4: out line. 50 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 5: Yes, of course, and Senator Vance has in the past 51 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 5: said so too. Now, look, they may see this as 52 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 5: an election issue. We see it as a right of 53 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 5: women to make their own bodily decisions. And that's what 54 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 5: the states like my state have the ability to put that. 55 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 5: In states like Georgia force women to cross the border, 56 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 5: and then we have a death of Amber Thurmot. So 57 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 5: let's be very clear, trying to cut hairs on an 58 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 5: issue on this is not where the American public's at. 59 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 5: They want the restoration of roe versus Wade. Vice President 60 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 5: Harris said she would sign it. That's what we'll do 61 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 5: with election. 62 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have wanted Walls to 63 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: do this because he's really good at it, and also 64 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: because honestly, these fucking dishonest Fox News hosts right like, 65 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: clearly Trump is going to sign a national ban. 66 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: If he doesn't, it'll be shocking to me. JD. 67 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: Vance is already numerous times on various podcasts in podcasts 68 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: intimated that he is going to ban abortion, that his 69 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: goal is to stop abortion and we've seen Alito and 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: Thomas both say that they'd like to use the Comstock 71 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: Act to prevent the mailing of abortion pills. So obviously, yes, yes, yes, 72 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: Tim Walls on Fox News put him on there every 73 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: fucking day until the election. And look, we see your 74 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: favorite Mayor Pete. When Mayor Pete goes on Fox News. 75 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: It is actually sometimes it's the only truth that these 76 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: people see, Like Jessica Tarloff, it's not fun, but it's 77 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: a necessary evil in our siloed media ecosystem. And I 78 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: think it's so smart to get him up there. And 79 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: the truth is, he reminds a lot of Midwestern people. 80 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: I've heard this again and again of the dads they 81 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: lost to Fox News. 82 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: So I think it's very smart to have him up there. 83 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: And I think he's going to continue to debunk these 84 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: right wing talking points. And the reality is, yet again, 85 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: like the biggest lie that Donald Trump loves is this 86 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: idea that women are carrying fetuses till the you know, 87 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: till they're thirty eight weeks and then having an abortion. 88 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: For yucks. 89 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: Nobody is having a last trimester abortion unless the baby 90 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: is dead or dying or about to die. 91 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: And the mother too will die. That's it. 92 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: That's how it's you know, it's one percent of all abortions, 93 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: and it's because things have gone so horribly pear shaped 94 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: that this is the only choice for anyone. So I 95 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: thought that was a really good point. And the fact 96 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: that he was able to go on that show and 97 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: remember those women's names, well, that blonde woman was yelling 98 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: at him, good for you, Governor Walls. 99 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 3: So, Mollie, I feel like the mainstream media is really 100 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: having a hard time with their lack of access to 101 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: VP Harris and Governor Walls. She's going on Call Her 102 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: Daddy this week and the Howard Stern Show, but not 103 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: doing appearances with them. What are you see in here? 104 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: So this is something that people in the mainstream media 105 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: themselves are quite mad about. As a member of the 106 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: mainstream media, I write for Vannie Fair, I appear on MSNBC. 107 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: I actually think that the Harris campaign is doing this 108 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: totally right. They don't owe the mainstream media anything. And 109 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: the other thing is that our internet and our radio 110 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: and our televisions are very siloed now, so for her 111 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: to go on places where political people live in a 112 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: certain space, right, it's MSNBC, it's CNN, it's the New 113 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: York Times. 114 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: They know her. 115 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: She needs to go on the shows where she's going 116 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: to be able to activate the ones, Twoes and ree 117 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: is the low propensity voters. Those are the people she 118 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: needs to win. So I think it's very smart for 119 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: her to go on Call Her Daddy. I think it's 120 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: very smart for her to go on Howardster and those 121 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: are huge audiences that can produce viral moments, and she 122 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: needs to be as around as possible, So I think 123 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: it's very smart. She's also doing sixty Minutes, which is 124 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: traditional mainstream media. Look, there is a thing happening here 125 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: which is a real phenomenon, which is because there are 126 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: no gatekeepers. Because social media has taken over to some 127 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: effect and killed a lot of newspapers and magazines, The 128 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: mainstream media doesn't. 129 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: Have the power it used to have. 130 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: Right, You used to be able to rely on newspaper 131 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: endorsements to help presidential candidates. That doesn't happen anymore, and 132 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: in fact, so much so that New York Times is 133 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: no longer even doing endorsements. 134 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: So I do think that for sure. 135 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: It really is a phenomenon where the mainstream media is 136 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: feeling its power diminished and they're not happy about it. 137 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: But we have like a little bit more than thirty 138 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: days until this presidential election, and it's the election to 139 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: see if we're going to have more elections. So I'd 140 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: rather she goes on call her daddy and we just 141 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: all take the. 142 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: L for now, agreed. So here's an interesting one. Most 143 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: viral tiktoks are at a fifth grade reading level, but 144 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: Trump speaks at below that. What do you see it here? 145 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: I love that you have that bit of information. 146 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: Most viral tiktoks are at a fifth grade reading level, 147 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: but Donald Trump. 148 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: Is at a fourth grade reading level. 149 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: You know people on the left that love to be 150 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: mad at the New York Times, and with good reason. 151 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm speaking to my husband now. He is 152 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: right to be mad at the New York Times. That's okay. 153 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: I know the opinion page makes you mad sometimes. But 154 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: this is an incredible story they did which took a 155 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: ton of work, which is they fed into a computer 156 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: all of these different Trump speeches and they were able 157 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: to sort of analyze the words, the speech patterns, where 158 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: he went with this stuff. And it's quite interesting and 159 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: definitely worth reading, and the analysis found that Trump speaks 160 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: at a fourth grade level. 161 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: Far below that of his rivals. 162 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: And again, I don't want to say anything nice about 163 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: Rohn de Santis ever, but he speaks at an eighth 164 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: grade level, which is almost high school, so good for him. 165 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: Trump's speech complexity has not changed dramatically as he's aged. 166 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: But that said, he uses thirty two percent more negative 167 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: words than positive words, which again, in twenty sixteen, he 168 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: gave a speech which you'll remember famous liberal George W. 169 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: Bush described as some weird shit. 170 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: Okay, And that was when he was only doing twenty 171 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: one percent of negative words. Now it's gone up to 172 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: thirty two percent. He uses swear words, and he's more disinhibited, 173 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: which is a sign of aging than when he ran 174 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: so really interesting piece with a ton of different bylines. 175 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: Peter Baker leads it, it's definitely worth looking at this 176 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: piece about Trump's language. 177 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: Milly, there is really unexpectedly great economic news out this week, 178 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: and I feel like it really broke the right wings 179 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: Brad And says, usual. 180 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are these jobs numbers that show basically that 181 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: they've lowered a twelve month recession probability to five points 182 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: this is from Goldman. It's a big deal, and it 183 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: shows that we've hit that kind of soft landing those 184 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: numbers that we had thought were impossible during the supply 185 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: chain crisis. 186 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: Basically, these is a blowout. 187 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 1: Economic numbers, and I think that what's interesting is that 188 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: a lot of the other numbers that were reversed down 189 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: have now been reversed up. So the federal unemployment rate 190 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: fell to four point one, which shows that the economy 191 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: is resilient and that maybe the Fed doesn't need to 192 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: lower rates anymore. The other the thing about it is 193 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: that Republicans could not absorb this news in a way 194 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: that was healthy and normal. For example, Rubio, Marco Rubio. 195 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 2: Who used to be little market. 196 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: Right, little marcall who used to be thought of as 197 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: like a normal senator, but now because he wants to 198 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: have the kind of virality or whatever it is that 199 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green gets. He said on X the Juggernaut 200 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: of Disinformation and misinformation, another fake jobs report out of 201 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: the Biden Harris government today. Rubio said sixteen of the 202 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: seventeen reports have been significantly revised downwards after media helps 203 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: them with their fake headlines. Quote quote quote, but actually 204 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: that's not even true. The latest jobs report shows we've 205 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: actually seen that that's not true, that they've been reversed. 206 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: We had a labor economist say he is just wrong 207 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: and mischaracterizing the current data. The Bureau of Labor and 208 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: Statistics we all know as a nonpartisan agency, they don't 209 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: really give a fuck who's in power. And at least 210 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: a few of the seemingly positive revisions are going to 211 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: be negatively revised to the original revisions. 212 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: That's really common. 213 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: Rubio is just mad to see good news happening in 214 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: the economy because he's worried it won't help Trump. Trump, 215 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: of course said that all the jobs were being taken 216 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: by immigrants, which is Trump's de facto on everything. So 217 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: in fact, the jobs report were not fake news, they 218 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: were real news. 219 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: We have even more toward dates for you. 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How are you on this fine day. 246 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: Well, your day is better than mine because you're in 247 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: California and I'm in New York. 248 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 6: That's a fact. 249 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: That is a fact. 250 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: But you are three hours behind, so I do have 251 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: that on you. I want to start by talking about 252 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: our text exchange, so because I think it's really important. 253 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: The last couple days, there's been a real vibes based 254 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: media meltdown about Vice President Harris, which has included a 255 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: lot of pieces by smart people that we're friends with 256 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: about how she's not doing enough and how this election 257 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: is slipping through her fingers the way that it felt, 258 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: but it wasn't actually true because the fundamentals were different 259 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: for Hillary Clinton. But it felt to a lot of 260 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: people in twenty sixteen that that last month where Hillary 261 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: Clinton was fundraising and not on the trail in the 262 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: way that Donald Trump was, that it was slipping through 263 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: her fingers. So I feel like, if I'm having that anxiety, 264 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: then our listeners are also having that anxiety. So I 265 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: need you to talk them and also me at the 266 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: same time, which is more bang for the book. 267 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: Off the ledge. 268 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 6: Here's the thing, Mally, Hillary in the last few weeks 269 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 6: of the campaign of days was not on the air 270 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 6: spending money in Wisconsin and other states. That is more 271 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 6: important than showing up at four hundred interviews, you know, 272 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 6: for the seventeenth time with the Washington Post or The 273 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 6: New York Times or Bloomberg. The Harris team is not 274 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 6: taking this lightly. They are pounding away in the States 275 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 6: with massive television de buys, massive digital ad bys. They 276 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 6: are doing the work. This is not some twenty sixteen 277 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 6: on repeat thing. Because they learned those lessons, they understand it. 278 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 6: I also want to say a number of these pieces 279 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 6: that have come out have very much had that vibe 280 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 6: of self serving bullshit. Well, she doesn't do interviews with 281 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 6: our outlet, therefore it must be must be about to lose. 282 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 6: I don't buy it. I think there are awful lot 283 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 6: of these people who were at the Times in particular, 284 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 6: who still haven't gotten there pound of flesh out of her, 285 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 6: and so I think a lot of it comes down 286 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 6: to the fact that they aren't getting the candy they 287 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 6: want to eat. I don't think that that is a 288 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 6: side of a doomed campaign. Look, Donald Trump hasn't led 289 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 6: a pole in the national polls for now eleven days. 290 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 6: This race is going his way. He's not moving any 291 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 6: state numbers, you're going to see a lot of I 292 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 6: know that. Something they're doing right now. They're trying to 293 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 6: surge all the right wing polesters Trafalgar Rasmus and lunatics. 294 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: Resputant ress mutants. 295 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 6: They're trying to serve a lot of poles with those 296 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 6: people right now in order to reset the polling averages 297 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 6: and the aggregators and the betting markets a little bit, 298 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 6: to make it look like a closer race than it 299 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 6: really is. I don't think this race in the electoral 300 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 6: college map right now is done. But you'd much rather 301 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 6: be in Haerriss's position than Trump's. They're now at the 302 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 6: point we're talking in the last four weeks of this campaign. 303 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 6: They still just announced their field program for Wisconsin. And 304 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 6: it's bullshit. It's a tempkin villa, isn't it. 305 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: The guy with the long hair of the walk Away guy. 306 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 6: It's that, and it's Charlie Kirk and it's Elon Musk, 307 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 6: and it's some weird collab between all these freak show guys. 308 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 6: And look, I just don't see this race right now 309 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 6: at the fundamentals level. The vibes level is always going 310 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 6: to be what it's gonna be but at the fundamentals level, 311 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 6: at the money, at the organization level, at the media level, 312 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 6: and at the polling level. This is not a race. 313 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 6: If it was a national race, it would be over 314 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 6: and done. It's an electoral college, right, so it's a 315 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 6: little closer. But I don't see great things in the 316 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 6: future for the Trump people in Pennsylvania. I don't see 317 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 6: great things for the future for them in Wisconsin. I 318 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 6: think all the vectors are moving in the right direction. Again, 319 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 6: close race. Can't take your foot off the gas, can't blink, 320 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 6: can't stop. But they're not gonna do what Hillary did 321 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 6: and say, you know, we're gonna save a lot of 322 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 6: this money for Wisconsin because we don't need it, because 323 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 6: we're up three points. Again, I'm clear eyed about everything. 324 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 6: Trump has a powerful grip over a big part of 325 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 6: the Republican base that has never waivered, but that base 326 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 6: smaller than it's ever been. There are more and more 327 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 6: people listening to the messages that say, hey, if you're 328 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 6: a Republican, you can be a Republican and a conservative 329 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 6: and still not vote for Donald Trump. That's a great 330 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 6: message to hear, and that. 331 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: Is what happened in Wisconsin, Right, you mean this year, yeah, 332 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: in that hand, absolutely. 333 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Liz Cheney talk, yeah. 334 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 6: My organization, Our organization is pounding away every single day. 335 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 6: Say to Republicans, this is not your values. These people 336 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 6: don't believe what you believe. Run like hell, You'll you'll 337 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 6: be food as you get away from the blast radius. 338 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 6: You don't have to do this anymore. You're not stuck 339 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 6: with this anymore. And there are a lot of Republicans 340 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 6: who in twenty sixteen, we had a lot of quiet 341 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 6: Trump voters and we didn't know they were out there. 342 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: They were low propensity, they were ones and twos, right. 343 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 6: Ones and twos. And we had in twenty twenty, we 344 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 6: had a hand full of quiet Biden voters and they 345 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 6: showed up, made a difference. But now we're looking at 346 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 6: a world where I think there are some quiet Harris 347 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 6: voters and Republicans out there. We're seeing some evidence of 348 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 6: that polling. It's developing. Still, it's not a done deal, 349 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 6: but this race is not what it was in the 350 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 6: Vibe world. Ever, She's always had more of an advantage 351 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 6: in this contest than people think she's had. 352 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: I'm hoping you could do a minute or two to 353 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: talk about how much higher her favorability is. 354 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 6: Well, let me stay with Donald Trump. Donald Trump's always 355 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 6: had a very interesting boundary in his polling, and you 356 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 6: couldn't get him much above forty one percent or pretty 357 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 6: much below forty three percent. It is risted down wall. 358 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 2: He had a ceiling and a floor, right. 359 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 6: A ceiling and a floor. Right now, Kamala Harris is 360 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 6: she's favorable, and she's running about ten points above where 361 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 6: she was when she got in the race, quelve points 362 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 6: about where she was and when she got the race. 363 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 6: So right now you have Kamala Harris with very solid 364 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 6: favorability and you have Donald Trump with very solid negatives. 365 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 6: Donald Trump nationally is not a beloved figure. Okay, He's 366 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 6: got about a six percent unfavorable ratio at about a 367 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 6: forty three percent faith in a lot of polls, and 368 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 6: like I said, in most polls now it's drifted down 369 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 6: to about forty one. So you've got a much more 370 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 6: likable candidate in Kamala Harris, and you've got a much 371 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 6: more unlikable candidate in Donald Trump. And when you have that, 372 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 6: that contest that had to head poles matter, they had 373 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 6: to head numbers matter, and all these states, they're close. 374 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna I'm not going to bs. They're all 375 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 6: in the in the electoral college. But the direction of 376 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 6: the trend line is moving her way in all these. 377 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: Places, and it continues to write. 378 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, and look, we're going to end up 379 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 6: with an election in the electoral college where it's probably 380 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 6: going to be you know, a half a million votes 381 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 6: either way decide this election. And that sounds crazy, but 382 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 6: that's how this is sort of structured. Right now. We 383 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 6: will have to go in and be prepared for Donald 384 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 6: Trump and his people to engage in their Shenana Gannery 385 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 6: and their bullshit at the end of this election, to 386 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 6: say we were cheated, we have to do a recount, 387 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 6: blah blah blah. But I think she's going to win 388 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 6: this thing, Molly. The fundamentals are all in her stack 389 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 6: and they're not moving in his direction. 390 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 391 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: I want to say that her team has really done 392 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: the stuff that needs to be done in a way 393 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: that I think, like, for example, there was all this 394 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: anxiety and now she's announced that she's doing all of 395 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: these really important media heads. 396 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, the campaign is running at a very very very 397 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 6: very high level. The campaign is moving in a lot 398 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 6: of ways. That echoes some success stories in the Democratic 399 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 6: Party right now, where the numbers are closer in the 400 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 6: Southwest states, particularly that anyone had an expectation they would be. 401 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 6: The numbers are closer in places like Florida and Texas 402 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 6: that anyone thought they should be, and that's lifting up 403 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 6: a lot of Democratic candidates in those places. You know, 404 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 6: Jackie Rosen in Nevada, Rubin in Arizona. Even as we 405 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 6: look at the scrut in Ohio and other places, Pennsylvania's 406 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 6: looking pretty good, Ohio's looking pretty good. And when you've 407 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 6: got you know Rick Scott, who has spent you know, 408 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 6: sixty five miss billion dollars of his own money in 409 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 6: Florida and he's tied with DMP. Now I know for 410 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 6: a fact his people are on the phone begging for money, 411 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 6: begging for him to put more money in the superpack 412 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 6: because they're afraid all these things are adding up to 413 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 6: you know, there's a broader blue surge, if not a 414 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 6: blue wave in the country. Look, Trump has also engaged 415 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 6: in the most desperate level of campaigning I've seen even 416 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 6: from Trump in the last few weeks. 417 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: I need you to do two seconds on the jump, 418 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: that record scratching Elon Musk jump that stopped all of 419 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: our hearts and made him America his weirdest immigrant. 420 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 6: Discuss that expression on his face during the jump. It's 421 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 6: seared in my mind now. But Elon Musk has gone 422 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 6: full red pill. He's a full on trumper now. None 423 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 6: of it, at the end of the day, outside of 424 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 6: our weird social media bubble, will be truly consequential, except 425 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 6: insofar as he manipulates the Twitter. 426 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: Machine, the algorithm on Twitter. But not a lot of 427 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: people aren't on Twitter anymore, right, correct. 428 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 6: A lot of people moved to threads and elsewhere. I 429 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 6: think Elon, as somebody jokingly wrote the other day, it's 430 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 6: like ketamine meat adderall on the stage, you know. 431 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: And that is just a joke, is it, though? That's 432 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: just a joke. 433 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 6: As we look at that moment on the stage, as 434 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 6: we look at this idea that Elon is going to 435 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 6: be this like big mover in the Maga movement, you 436 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 6: know what, He's in the Maga movement. He's now part 437 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 6: of it. He's now bought into it. I don't think 438 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 6: that I've ever seen two thirsty your motherfuckers on a 439 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 6: stage together I don't know that it means anything beyond 440 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 6: inside the red pill works. 441 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: Right, So let's just for a second talk about the hurricane, 442 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: because there is a lot of anxiety in the mainstream 443 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: media that this hurricane could be there's another hurricane. 444 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 2: I don't have to tell you. You both live in Florida. 445 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: There's another hurricane coming that's going to hit just the 446 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: state weirdly, like they're coming for Desantas. 447 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 6: Great to the town I was born in Tampa, Florida, 448 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 6: like a freight train right now, it's a Cat three 449 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 6: or Cat four on impact. It's already an area that 450 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 6: was so super saturated and so flooded just ten days ago. 451 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 6: Now that there's a lot of concerns that this could 452 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 6: be a truly catastrophic impact on Tampa. And look, this 453 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 6: is again, since they control the weather, I don't know 454 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 6: why they're going right at a area. 455 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: I was just I was about to say, like, this 456 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: is bad for the Jews. We tend not to control 457 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: hurricanes during yamki Bar, but I just was curious. So, 458 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we have like these this hurricane, the first hurricane, 459 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: and the second hurricane, the first hurricane. Still the cleanup 460 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: is not done. There's a disinformation barrage right with Laura Lumer. 461 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 1: It's somewhere in the close to the helm, and there 462 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: are Republicans. Does Tom Tillis ever say like enough is 463 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: enough here or now? 464 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 6: All the Republican governors, Republican governor of Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, 465 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 6: and Virginia, our old buddy Glenn Younkin, all of them said, 466 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 6: FEMA's working great, We're doing our best. It's hard work, 467 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 6: and look, I'm really angry about it, Moy. For one 468 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 6: reason is that I know how many of this emergency 469 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 6: operations stuff, how complicated it is, how difficult it is. 470 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 6: There are tens of thousands of FEMA workers, National guardsmen, 471 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 6: You've got state emergency operations people. You've got volunteers from 472 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 6: the Red Cross. You've got people from the rescue organizations 473 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 6: like the Cajun Navy and South in Louisiana and Virginia 474 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 6: water rescue people. You've got World Central Kitchen. You've got 475 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 6: all these folks trying to do a great job down there. Unfortunately, 476 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 6: on the MAGA side of this, they are out there 477 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 6: lying their asses off and saying, oh, well, they can't 478 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 6: be rescued because immigrants took all the money. It is 479 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 6: just so crude and stupid, and. 480 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: It's also totally fascinating, right because Trump used FEMA money 481 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: for immigrants. 482 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly actly. He used FEMA money to pay for 483 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 6: kids in cages and some other immigration stuff during his terms. 484 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 6: But Biden has not. And the problem with Elon right 485 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 6: now controls the largest social media site in our politics. 486 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 6: He's been spreading this misinformation at a level that, as 487 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 6: Trump would say, no one's ever seen before. I don't 488 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 6: think there's a situation right now where we can do 489 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 6: much about it. I mean, they're going to do this. 490 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 6: This is feeding the right wing media machine, and they've 491 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 6: been desperate to get Trump on a new strategic tack, 492 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 6: and this is what they're trying to do it with. 493 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to work. And I'll tell 494 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 6: you why. The practical nature of the logistics of western 495 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 6: North Carolina and the rescue effort, you know, those folks 496 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 6: are those folks are largely going to be offline for 497 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 6: the next month. The roads, the comms, the cell service, 498 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 6: the power. It's going to be slowly rebuilt. It's not 499 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 6: going to be rebuilt because Donald Trump is tweeting stupid shit. 500 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 6: It's going to be in trucks in their neighborhood. But 501 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 6: government has done a full press on them. I know 502 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 6: people from every you know, federal agency are on the 503 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 6: ground there trying to make this thing less of a 504 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 6: devastating historical event and to repair it quickly. Now, I 505 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 6: will say this, in Florida, I'm absolutely fucking livid. I'm 506 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 6: furious beyond words that Ron de Santis has once again 507 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 6: fucked his own state because we have spent the last 508 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 6: three years of his administration in a war on woke 509 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 6: And luckily we were lesbian in school, but we highest 510 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 6: property insurance rates in the country. We are totally unprepared 511 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 6: for another storm of the category that Milton will be 512 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 6: hitting one of the largest metro areas in Florida. The 513 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 6: current track, it's going to run through Tampa and head 514 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 6: over to Orlando. This is not great news. This is 515 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 6: a bad thing. And so you know, DeSantis has deployed 516 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 6: all these Florida resources up to North Carolina in an 517 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 6: effort to play the game of oh Vima won't help 518 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 6: them because of the immigrants. But he's now going to 519 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 6: be under the gun again. This is a guy who 520 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 6: years now has ignored a gigantic red alert issue for 521 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 6: the people of Florida. When even Rick Scott and Marco 522 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 6: Rubio are separating from Ron DeSantis on this next storm, 523 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 6: that's a big deal. That's how incompetent this leadership has 524 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 6: been and how completely arrogant he's been to think that 525 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 6: the only thing we needed in the state of Florida 526 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 6: was to make sure no one said that we're gay 527 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 6: in a classroom. 528 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: Right that it turns out that that does not prevent 529 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: climate change. 530 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 6: Strangely enough, thank you, Rick Wilson. I wanted to give 531 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 6: you one more piece of optimistic news right now. In 532 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 6: early voting, okay, early voting, and in early ballot requests, 533 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 6: the Democrats are running at about a sixty percent to 534 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 6: thirty percent ratio over Republican ballot requests and early voting requests. 535 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 6: So that is up from twenty twenty two, and it 536 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 6: is up by a lot from twenty twenty. The program 537 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 6: that's been run by the Harris campaign in that regard 538 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 6: to get out the vote early is working. It is 539 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 6: that fraction. 540 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: Oh, that is very good, Rick Wilson, Thank you all. 541 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 6: We're welcome. 542 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: Are you concerned? 543 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: About Project twenty twenty five and how awful Trump's second 544 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: term could be. Well, so are we, which is why 545 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: we teamed up with iHeart to make a limited series 546 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: with the experts on what a disaster Project twenty twenty 547 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: five would be for America's future. Right now, we have 548 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: just released the final episode of this five episode series. 549 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: They're all available by looking up Molly Jong Fast Project 550 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five on YouTube, and if you are more 551 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: of a podcast person and not say a YouTuber, you 552 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: can hit play and put your phone in the lock 553 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: screen and it will play back just like a podcast. 554 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: All five episodes are online now. We need to educate 555 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: Americans on what Trump's second term would or could due 556 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: to this. 557 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: Country, so please watch it and spread the word. 558 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: Laura Gillon is the Democratic No in New York's fourth district. 559 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: Welcome Too Fast Politics. 560 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 7: Laura, Thank you, Mollie. Excited to be here. 561 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: You are running for Congress. 562 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: Tell us what your district is, what it looks like, 563 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: give us a little sort of two minute explainer on 564 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: your race. 565 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 7: Okay, so my district is New York for it's a 566 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 7: district on the island. It's the south shore of NASA County. 567 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 7: It is a district that is wonderfully diverse. 568 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: It's a district I have really deep roots. 569 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 7: My Italian immigrant grandfather king with his young family and 570 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 7: settled in the district in a town called Baldwin and 571 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 7: got a job in the town of Himstead as a 572 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 7: sanitation worker and worked on the back of a garbage truck. 573 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 7: My mother grew up where there is no money for 574 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 7: girls to go to college, so she did not have 575 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 7: that opportunity, but do their sacrifices, I was able to 576 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 7: go to Georgetown, and in two generations we saw my 577 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 7: family go from the back of the garbage truck to 578 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 7: the owners CEO's office when I was elected supervisor and 579 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 7: CEO of that same town, the town of Hempstead, which 580 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 7: is the largest town in America. So my congressional district, 581 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 7: District four is largely comprised of the town of Hempstead, 582 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 7: with the city of Long Beach added. 583 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: To it as well. So it's a district that I represented. 584 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: Already explain to us a little bit about your opponent 585 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: and his recent scandals. 586 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 7: So look, you know, Anthony dis Gazito was just there 587 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 7: was just reporting in the New York Times a thorough 588 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 7: investigative report that you know, found that you know, as 589 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 7: soon as he got into Congress, he put his fiance's 590 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 7: daughter on his congressional payroll, which is against nepotism rules. 591 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 7: You know, Well, let the Ethics Committee decide. But it 592 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 7: appears that it could violate the House rules of ethics. 593 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 7: And then kind of inexplicably, but his mistress on the 594 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 7: payroll with his fiance's daughter in his district office. 595 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: There is a rule in. 596 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 7: The ethics community that you can't, i think, be having 597 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 7: a sexual relationship with someone who's on your role, and 598 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 7: so it appears that that would violate the ethics role. 599 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 7: But again we'll let the Ethics committee decide whether or 600 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 7: not there's a violation there. But it shows a lot 601 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 7: about his values. Yeah, I think it shows a lot 602 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 7: about his intelligence. 603 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: It's a sitcom, but not a good sitcom. 604 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 7: No. But see, this is the thing, like the taxpayers 605 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 7: were left holding the bag west thirty thousand dollars that 606 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 7: were paid to these women and all of these those 607 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 7: payments stopped, by the way, is because he got caught 608 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 7: because the mistress's husband told. And this is what I 609 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 7: think what's reported in the new York Times told the 610 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 7: son of the fiance, and so that that's what ended 611 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 7: the marriage and ended the payments to these women. But 612 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 7: the taxpayers shouldn't be paying for this, like this is 613 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 7: the kind of nepotism cronyism that I ran to extinguish 614 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 7: in the town of Henstead. He was peddling it there. 615 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 7: He got reprimanded at a Supreme court for doing this 616 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 7: kind of stuff in the town of Hempstead, and he 617 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 7: still continued to do it in his commrecial office. Peoples 618 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 7: are sick of this stuff. They want epicators who are 619 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 7: just going to go and fall problems and start making 620 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 7: their lives better instead of finger pointing and carrying on 621 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 7: this kind of nonsense in their office. 622 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: Yes, I am actually very excited to have you on 623 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: this podcast because I heard you speak at an Emily's 624 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: List lunch and you were really great, and I actually 625 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: made the effort to get you because, first of all, 626 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, Democrats lost a bunch of seats 627 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: that were in Biden districts or very competitive Swingy districts. 628 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: And maybe that. 629 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: Was because of the governor, and maybe it was because 630 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: of the midterm, but sort of Democrats took their eye 631 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: off the ball. You are one of those seats, and 632 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: you have this amazing story of having worked in the 633 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: district and coming from the district. 634 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: Right, Yes, I. 635 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 7: Mean look in twenty twenty two, I can say in 636 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 7: my race it was a couple of things. 637 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: It was mostly lack of resources. 638 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 7: You thought in the race really late because nobody was 639 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 7: expecting being combig Democrat Cathleen Rights to retire, so I 640 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 7: had a very short runway to raise the resources you 641 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 7: need to win an election in the most expensive media market. 642 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 7: And then we had redistricting which kicked our primaries to August, 643 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 7: so you know, I was I'd spend a lot of 644 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 7: money on an expensive primary at the end of August 645 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 7: and then start to refill my coffers in September when 646 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 7: you're supposed to be kicking into full gear television and 647 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 7: try to raise money again. And no one in DC 648 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 7: thought took this race seriously. Unfortunately, they thought it was 649 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 7: a safe seat. We kept trying to tell them it 650 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 7: is not safe. But the news is that has all 651 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 7: been corrected this citing. 652 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: Yes, it really has been. 653 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: The d triple C has been and I think just 654 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: really putting their foot on the gas. Talk to me 655 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: about what that looks like for you. Yeah, this has 656 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: been a totally different race for me. Got in really early, 657 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: so I'd had that long runway to raise the resources 658 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: I need to make sure we're on TV communicating with 659 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: voters telling them what's at stake in this election and 660 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: how important it is that they come out and vote, 661 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: and that they come out and vote for me. So 662 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: we've had great fundraising. We just finished K three with 663 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: a really amazing number. We raised two point four million 664 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 1: in T three, But that money's going right out the door. 665 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so expensive to run these ads that 666 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: you see on TV on cable, so researchers are something 667 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: we always need more of and are happy to accept. 668 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: But also we have an organizing strategy that has really 669 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: not been seen in Nasha County other than perhaps for 670 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: the special election of Tom Swasey in February, which worked, Yes, exactly. 671 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: It worked. 672 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 7: It's constituency driven organizing, making sure we have we are 673 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 7: reaching out to all our different ethnic groups, religious groups, 674 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 7: and just engaging all these communities and getting them excited 675 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 7: about the election and coming out to vote. I think 676 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 7: we knocked ninety thousand doors already, and people are coming 677 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 7: from not just this district but from other places because 678 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 7: they know how pritically important it is that we win 679 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 7: this seat. Because this is a seat we can win. 680 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 7: If Democrats come out to vote, we are going to win. 681 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 7: We have a registration edge. We just need people to 682 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 7: come out to vote. That's what went wrong in twenty 683 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 7: twenty two. It's low turnout. 684 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have. 685 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 7: The resources to get people out and had this field organization. 686 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 7: On the Republican side, they had Les Delden working this 687 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 7: area really real hard because he knew the only way 688 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 7: he could get to that governor's mansion is every like 689 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 7: mad up person onlinely came out to vote, so. 690 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: He worked this area hard. 691 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 7: They only had midterm drop off on the Republican side 692 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 7: of thirty thousand voters in this district. On our side, 693 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 7: we had drop off of one hundred thousand voters and 694 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 7: I only lost by nine seven hundred votes. If ten 695 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 7: percent were Democrats showed up, I would be in Congress 696 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 7: right now. So we're not letting that happen this cycle. 697 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: What I think is very interesting about these quote unquote 698 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: moderate Republicans right like Desposito Lawler, This crew are pretending 699 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: that they're moderates, but the reality is they go into 700 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: Congress and they vote for every crazy Mike Johnson thing. Right, 701 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: So they voted to impeach Biden, they voted to impeach 702 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: my orcists. All of them have done the same kind 703 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: of stuff that Trumpers do, right, I mean, they have 704 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: voting records. Ds Posito has a voting record that's almost 705 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: the same as Marjorie Taylor Green. 706 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 7: Right, Yes, and he said he respects Marjorie Taylor Green. 707 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 2: Amazing Marjorie Taylor Green. 708 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, but yesterday she 709 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: tweeted about how Jews they could be Jews could not 710 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: be Jews. Sounds like Jews as a Jew, tend to 711 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: feel like she's talking about me can control the weather. 712 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: I mean, so if you're I mean, so you're running 713 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: against someone who respects her, Yes, said it to Jake Tapper. 714 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: I believe that's amazing, but it is. I mean, it's like, 715 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm surprised at how like the mainstream media is so 716 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: desperate to have normal Republicans that they'll put people like 717 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: ds Posito and Lawler on television when they really are 718 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: not mainstream Republicans not. 719 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 7: He has voted and he voted for Mike Johnson to 720 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 7: be Speaker of the House. He is as right as 721 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 7: you can get. He sponsored the Life at Conception Act 722 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 7: of a national abortion Band no exceptions. That the most 723 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 7: traconian law that you can imagine, no idea he voted 724 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 7: for him. I mean, he is so out of line 725 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 7: with the values of this district. He even voted for 726 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 7: that bill to restore Confederate monuments at Arlington Cemetery. Twenty 727 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 7: percent of this district are black and brown people. Right 728 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 7: to restore a Confederate monument. He is not moderate. He 729 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 7: will do whatever what his party bosses telling him to do. 730 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 2: That's so crazy. 731 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: But I think also it's important to realize that if 732 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: Democrats are able to take back the House, there'll be 733 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: a check God forbid. You know, you guys will if 734 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: you are elected to Congress, certify the election and if 735 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 1: Trump wins, which will be catastrophic for everything from climate 736 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: to democracy. But do you think that you know, at 737 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: least you guys will be able to provide a check 738 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: on that, right? 739 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 7: Absolutely? I mean that is why this race, and these 740 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 7: really top targeted races are so crucial. For our democracy 741 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 7: because we don't know what's going to happen in the Senate. 742 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 2: It's a tough map. 743 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 7: We don't know what's going to happen for the White 744 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 7: House because it looks like it's going to be a 745 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 7: tight race. We can get the House back if we 746 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 7: win the seats. These are winnable races as long as 747 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 7: we have the resources and the people. The body's knocking 748 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 7: on the doors to get people out to vote, because 749 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 7: we need to have at least one branch of the 750 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 7: government to protect us from whatever might come out of 751 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 7: the White House or the Senate. 752 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 2: If we lose control of the Senate. Yeah, it's really important. 753 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: And if Democrats pook the House and Harris wins, which 754 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: is what all of us who believe in democracy would like, 755 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: what will happen is that you guys will be there 756 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: to swear her in and to certify the election. We 757 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: won't have to worry about whether or not Mike Johnson 758 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: feels like certifying the election, right. 759 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 2: Right, or he's afraid to certify the election. It's such 760 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 2: a crazy thing. 761 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about what your district looks like, 762 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: because it's a really interesting district. 763 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 7: Yes, it's a wonderfully diverse district. It's about in terms 764 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 7: of demographics, twenty percent Black, about sixteen percent Latino, roughly 765 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 7: seven percent AAPI, and then the balance would be white. 766 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 7: And we had a lot of different We have the Bytowns, 767 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 7: which is startably a very large Jewish area of the district. 768 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 7: It's become more orthodox now. It's a very compact district. 769 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 7: It runs from Garden City, Westberry, down to our beaches, 770 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 7: from the Queen's Border and out to the Wantass Seaford area. 771 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit about what you're 772 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: doing to win in your district? It's ads, but it's 773 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: also what events going around, door knocking, What are people 774 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: doing for you and what are you doing? 775 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, so we are you know, look, we are hard 776 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 7: at work. I am in this race to win it. 777 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 7: We are knocking on doors. We opened up six offices 778 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 7: across the district. We're doing meet and greets, We're doing 779 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 7: coffee meetings. We're going to start doing train stations. That's 780 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,240 Speaker 7: a typical way you campaign. 781 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 2: On Long Island. 782 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 7: You go to Long Island Railroad train station in the 783 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 7: morning and top on their way to work. 784 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 2: So we're going to start that. 785 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 7: I think next week, and you know, raising the money 786 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 7: that we need to pay for these ads and pay 787 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 7: for the mail because that's a really important tool to 788 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 7: communicate to voters. 789 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 2: What are the concerns that you're hearing? 790 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 6: Like? 791 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 2: What are people? 792 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 1: I mean, do people understand what a danger trump Ism is? 793 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: Do they remember that? Are you hearing about inflation? What 794 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: are you hearing? 795 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 7: Well, there's definitely one thing that has really resonated, I 796 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 7: think since twenty twenty two, since the Dobbs decision is 797 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 7: the real threat to our reproductive freedom. I think in 798 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 7: blue states there is a certain complacency after dob like, Oh, 799 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 7: we're safe in New York, So I'm not as worried 800 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 7: about that. Now people are seeing what the aftermath of 801 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 7: Dobbs is. That Clarence Thomas laid it out in his 802 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 7: concurring opinion that they're not just coming for choice, They're 803 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 7: coming for IVF were contraception, They're going to come for 804 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 7: LGBTQ rights. That was just the beginning, and we're seeing 805 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 7: this play out in some of the red states now 806 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,439 Speaker 7: where women are dying because they're not getting health care 807 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 7: that they need. And so it's an issue that people know, 808 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 7: whatever the Republicans of the fake modern Republicans are saying, 809 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 7: now when push comes to shove and get pushed to 810 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 7: sign a national abortion bill, if the Republicans are in charge, 811 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 7: that is what it's going to happen. They're not fooling 812 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 7: people on that issue. So that's an issue that a 813 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 7: lot of people are concerned about. I mean, look, they're 814 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 7: concerned about the cost of living. This is a really 815 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 7: expensive place to live. Losing that state and local tax 816 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 7: deduction really hurts people. We pay among the highest property taxes. 817 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 7: And you know, my opponent, Anthony Dias Canzita said he's 818 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 7: going to get us that tax deduction back. He's been 819 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 7: in the majority for almost two years and he hasn't. 820 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 7: So cost of living concerns is a really big issue here. 821 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 7: And quite frankly, the border is a really big issue. 822 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 7: People are really concerned about it because they saw the 823 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 7: forty thousand migrants that were busted to New York City 824 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 7: by Greg Abbott, a move by the way that my 825 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 7: opponent applauded instead it was a good move to do. 826 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 7: And they're concerned about the border. They're concerned about fentanyl 827 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 7: coming across the border, and so it's an issue that 828 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 7: needs to be tackled. And you know, again, this is 829 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 7: typical of my opponent and some of his colleagues. They're 830 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 7: talking about it, they're campaigning on it, they're saying it's 831 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 7: a crisis, it's a disaster. But they're the ones in power, 832 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 7: they are in the majority, and they're not doing anything 833 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 7: to fix the problem because they're just trying to campaign 834 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 7: on it. Two years they've done nothing. 835 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: When Harris gave her speech at the border, she actually 836 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: talked in a really detailed way about how to stop 837 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: the flow of fentanyl, and she explained that there are 838 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: two cartels that are bringing much of the fentanyl in, 839 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: and then there are the different components of fentanyl, some 840 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: of which comes I mean, it just all comes from 841 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: different places. 842 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 2: And how you would do that? 843 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: Do you think that voters got that message and processed it, 844 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: And do you think that there's enough of a like 845 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: she actually has a plan to stop fentanyl. 846 00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 2: I think it. 847 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 7: Needs to be amplified. I think she needs to put 848 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 7: it out in more paid communications what her plan is, 849 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 7: and you know, and her experience as a prosecutor and 850 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 7: how she knows how to tackle this problem. I think 851 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 7: I think it would be helpful for her to like 852 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 7: really amplify that message because it is a message that 853 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 7: is not just a top issue in my district. I'm 854 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,240 Speaker 7: hearing it from my other candidates and running in other districts. 855 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 7: It's it's a real concern and it should be a concern. 856 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 7: Our immigration system has been broken for a long time. 857 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 7: It needs to be fixed. We need people to get 858 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 7: the political courage to reach across the aisle because you 859 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 7: no matter who wins, our majorities are not going to 860 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 7: be like they needs to be in the past because 861 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 7: the way districts have been gerrymandered and the majority is 862 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 7: not going to be that large. So if you want 863 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 7: a comprehensive legislation with the buying of the American people 864 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 7: that's going to last and not just be thrown out 865 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 7: when you know when the next election happens, you need 866 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 7: to have by parties in leadership. We saw that going 867 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 7: forward in the Senate. Right, we saw that bill. It 868 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 7: was a hard fought compromise, but Donald Trump wanted to 869 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 7: campaign on it, so he killed it. Was that ill perfect, 870 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 7: probably not perfect. It didn't address certain things that we 871 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 7: wanted to address. It might not have bet on it 872 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 7: be aggressive as aggressive that it should have been in 873 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 7: some parts, but it was a compromise and it was 874 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 7: a step forward. And what we've had then is nothing. 875 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 7: So this is something that absolutely must happen in the 876 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,240 Speaker 7: next Congress, and it must be done in a bipartisan fashion. 877 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 7: And that's what we're not seeing from the Republican members 878 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 7: of the House. They just sat on their hands and 879 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 7: the bill that they did pass had no input from Democrats. 880 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 7: Now one Democrats lined off on that bill. So that's 881 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 7: performative politics, that's not legislating, right, right, right. 882 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: What do you think the Harris campaign could be doing 883 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: better that would help you when in your discher I. 884 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 7: Think it's great that she's talking a lot about Project 885 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 7: twenty twenty five and some of the dangerous things in there. 886 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 7: I think talking about the border and articulating how she's 887 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 7: going to work to solve that crisis. I think that 888 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 7: and what executive power she will bring to the table 889 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 7: to solve to try to help work with Congress to 890 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 7: solve the crisis, I think that would be very helpful. 891 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 892 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 1: Do you think that voters understand that there was a 893 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: real agreement and Trump killed it or now? 894 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 7: I do think that they understand that I think that 895 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 7: certain people don't care. I think people who are undecided 896 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 7: or more open minded about it can see quite clearly. 897 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 7: I mean, this is not just this is not hyperbole, 898 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 7: This is information. 899 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 2: This is what happened. 900 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 7: So and you have Republicans saying like this was one 901 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 7: of the most conservative bills that we could have passed ever, 902 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 7: and they killed it like their own plan is calling 903 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 7: them out. 904 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, James Langford from Oklahoma, thank you, thank you, thank you, Laura, 905 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: thank you so. 906 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 3: Much, Noon Rick Wilson, Malla Jeong Fast. 907 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 2: Do you want to know what my moment of fakery is? 908 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 6: I certainly do. 909 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 2: There's a member of the Trump family who. 910 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: Despises me in a way that I feel Eric should, 911 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: but I'm just not even on his radar. Do you 912 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: know who that member the Trump family is. 913 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 6: That'd be Cochley von Felsson. 914 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: It would be fayle Son von felsn Don Junior, who 915 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: recently tweeted that I was getting my own show. It 916 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,439 Speaker 1: was not true, but it was so infuriating to him 917 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: that it captured his imagination anyway. Read a piece in 918 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal by Molly Ball where she says 919 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: that actually the New gatekeeper of Donald Trump. Well, in 920 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, it was his beautiful and totally, i want 921 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 1: to say, enabling daughter. 922 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 6: Definitely not the subject of any bizarre of his incess fantasies. 923 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: Yes, and also not complicit in all ways that she's 924 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: now moved on to Miami and trying to make it 925 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,760 Speaker 1: in high society. Her brother, who is really bubble down 926 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: on the basist instincts of trump Ism, is now, according 927 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: to this piece in the Wall Street Journal, his daddy's gatekeeper. 928 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: You know, I was having a few days where I 929 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: was like, I'm definitely not going to get MO. I'm 930 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: not on anyone's radar. I'm not going to get MO. 931 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: But wow, I'm definitely going to get MO. So that 932 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: is Donald Trump Junior sending me to Gitmo. Is my 933 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: moment of fuckery? Rick Wilson, what's your moment of fuckery? 934 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 6: Leela Suckery? Is the entire maga right wing media ecosystem 935 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 6: right now that are lying their asses off about what's 936 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 6: happening in North Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina, Virginia, and Florida. 937 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 6: These people are sick. They are stoking these insane conspiracy 938 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,720 Speaker 6: theories that range from Marjorie Taylor Green saying they control 939 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 6: the weather, to these lies that immigrants are getting hundreds 940 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 6: of thousands of dollars a year but everyone else in 941 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 6: the zone of the hurricane is only going to get 942 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 6: seven hundred and fifty dollars. All these lies are ratcheting 943 00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:01,240 Speaker 6: up a sense of despair and these conspiracy for no reason. 944 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 6: And you're seeing how thoroughly effective the right wing media 945 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 6: ecosystem is at breaking the mental constructs that should underpin 946 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 6: people's thoughts about the world and turning them into this 947 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 6: bizarro fantasy land. I mean, and I know they don't 948 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 6: fucking care. It is horrible for this country what they're doing. 949 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 6: It is terrible for this country. And Elon is the 950 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 6: chief these rocket fuel for this stuff, and he has 951 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 6: been a promulgator of some of the worst and most 952 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,320 Speaker 6: destructive of these stories. So that's my moment of fuckeray. 953 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 2: Thanks Rick Wilson. 954 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 6: Yuh. 955 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in 956 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday to hear the best 957 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 1: minds in politics make sense of all the chaos. If 958 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: you enjoyed this podcast, please send it to a friend 959 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 1: or an enemy and keep the conversation going