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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Oh it's the third of November

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Speaker 1: and Forbes is reporting Dan Snyder might be selling the

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Speaker 1: Washington Commanders. What a glorious mother effing day it could

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Speaker 1: turn out to be. Hi, everyone, it's time for Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: I am merely one half of your hosting duo. I

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Speaker 1: join you from the capital Ofst dot us News right

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Speaker 1: here in Washington, DC, joined by the King of Connecticut himself.

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Speaker 1: It's my friend of yours. It's Brian Campbell. How are you, BC?

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Speaker 2: Look, I'll have to say this, I'm doing really good.

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Speaker 2: I apologize for my downtrodden anger Monday when I was

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Speaker 2: tired and I had tech issues and I wouldn't stop

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Speaker 2: telling the fans that this is the worst episode in

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? What you were real fun

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Speaker 2: I got it, Yeah, it really was. But I create.

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Speaker 2: You know what I did today, Luke. I didn't reach,

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Speaker 2: but I create. I created a workaround for my tech issue.

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Speaker 2: So score one for the old guy here, Luke, I'm

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Speaker 2: happy of all the Day's hump Day is my favorite

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Speaker 2: for this show because it's got the lowest expectations, Luke.

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Speaker 2: So that's how I live my life, Luke. I try

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Speaker 2: to lowball you into you thinking I'm an absolute decrepit human,

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Speaker 2: and then the rest of the way all I do

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Speaker 2: is surprise you. It's a fantastic working model. That's great.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I surprised the viewers just now by

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Speaker 1: first show in November. How about that for twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: you today. We're gonna preview the weekend's UFC card. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna preview the weekends. Gotta tell you this is a BC.

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Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong. This Zerdo Ramirez, Dmitri Bivolfight.

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Speaker 1: Sleeper excellence right there, Sleeper.

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Speaker 2: Excellent, absolute hardcore sleeper from Abu Dabi Touk Grisham gonna

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Speaker 1: At least tell you farted on him relentlessly.

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Speaker 2: No, I just wanted to drop that, you know that

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Speaker 2: there it is, Luke. But yeah, man, it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: election sison is heating up. Are you tied into any

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Speaker 2: specific congressional senator gubernatorial races? Luke?

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Speaker 1: Mostly the news just depresses me. I try not to

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Speaker 2: Be honest, you know what just discovered. I know I'm

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Speaker 2: about ten years late to the party on this John

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Speaker 2: Fetterman of Pennsylvania. This guy's out of control, Luke.

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Speaker 1: He is. That's a fun little race there in Pennsylvania

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Speaker 2: So, oh my god, all six they say for six

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Speaker 2: eight he stood, Luke. This guy looks like an absolute

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I don't know who exactly like would like

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Speaker 1: Topic number one, We start, as we customarily do on

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Speaker 2: Carla Esparza is gonna make the first defense of this

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Speaker 1: There very much could be a case where they give

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Speaker 2: And then what do you do? Then? Put Rose against

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Speaker 1: One thing they could do, depending on what Androge is

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Speaker 2: dominant style. She has a I don't want to call

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Speaker 2: it a spoiler style because she's not a spoiler. She

429
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 2: doesn't come out here and upset everybody. But she has

430
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 2: a style that just kind of counters what you do

431
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 2: well and makes it difficult for you. Right, she has

432
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 2: the cardio as you mentioned, she's tough in the clinch,

433
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 2: she can strike, she's accurate, she sets a good pace.

434
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 2: I mean, there's kind of things she does well to

435
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,359
Speaker 2: offset you, but you are looking at her to kind

436
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Speaker 2: of turn that corner and potentially win this dominantly, especially

437
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Speaker 2: in terms of her, you know, hopes of gaining a

438
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Speaker 2: title shot. Is that in her though? Does she have

439
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 2: that type of offense. She's more steady than spectacular.

440
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, listen, listen to these results in the UFC.

441
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 1: She won her first fight in the Contendi Saries via Koh.

442
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 1: That's nice. But then after that majority decision, unanimous decision,

443
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 1: unanimous decision, majority decisions, split decision, A couple of those,

444
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 1: excuse me, three of those were losses, by the way

445
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 1: to Asparza and Randa and then Cynthia, and then of

446
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,199
Speaker 1: course she had the nice KO against Amanda, Heboss, and

447
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 1: that was on that party m McGregor card. That was amazing.

448
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 1: But then right after that unanimous decision, unanimous decision against

449
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Speaker 1: show non the split decision. It's been mostly these like

450
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Speaker 1: kind of tough, grueling fights that she's been in against

451
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Speaker 1: very very credential opposition.

452
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Speaker 2: I did wrong Youanda, Yeah, and I did wrong you.

453
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Speaker 2: You said. Three of those were losses, one was a loss,

454
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 2: and that was a split decision of Carlos right that

455
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 2: I remember, believe, I remember thinking Hadriguez won that fight

456
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 2: as Sparsa had a couple of those split decisions that

457
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,959
Speaker 2: she kept advancing with Hey, that's what the judges ruled it.

458
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 2: But you know, majority draw with Calvio, majority draw with

459
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 2: random Marcos. You know, maybe that echoes the point here.

460
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 2: Maybe there's times when she's solid, steady, not spectacular that's

461
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 2: hurt her on the cards, and those three blemishes if

462
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 2: you want to call those two draws blemishes. Yeah, maybe

463
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 2: that's the good point. Maybe this is the fight where

464
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 2: she's got to work out of that Multai clinch and

465
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 2: try to Rich Franklin, somebody, Luke, if you get my.

466
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Speaker 1: Drift, do the reality is about? Is this about champions?

467
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: Champions basically have to be more than competent. They kind

468
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 1: of have to be a little bit good everywhere in general.

469
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Speaker 1: And there's some exceptions to this obviously, but in general

470
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 1: what they need to be is, especially like enduring champions,

471
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum, they need to basically be good everywhere.

472
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 1: But then they have to have a couple of things

473
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Speaker 1: where they're just like way better than the competition. At

474
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: she certainly got very good moy time, but in the

475
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 1: way that that can be disrupted. At MMA, it hasn't

476
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: exactly been like a super dominant ace in the hole.

477
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Speaker 1: It's been very very good for her. Please don't misunderstand me.

478
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Speaker 1: But it's not like it's oh my god. These competitors

479
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 1: don't know what to do with it. They can figure

480
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: out ways to minimize it or distract from it. And so,

481
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 1: as a consequence to your point, I like the way

482
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: you put it. She's definitely steady, she's definitely good, and

483
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: she is definitely deserving of some good opportunities to see

484
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: what she can do. But that last corner quite hasn't

485
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: been rounded yet where she's got real aces in the

486
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: hole to lord over her opponents. We shall see on Saturday.

487
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: But I think to your point, BC, that's what's been

488
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: somewhat missing, if that makes sense.

489
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Hey Luke, would you call the rest of

490
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: this fight card sneaky?

491
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Speaker 1: Ummm?

492
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 2: I mean when I look up and done it, I

493
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: see some potential for that thing everyone's talking about. You

494
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 2: know what that thing is? No hashtag holy hammer?

495
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying.

496
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Speaker 2: Our friends at Money Lion are looking to identify, recognize,

497
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Speaker 2: and award some of these you know, under the radar

498
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 2: people that are coming on. There's a few potential hammers,

499
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: brother on this list, Am I wrong?

500
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Speaker 1: All Right? So do you want to say he picks

501
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Speaker 1: for Friday, which, by the way, Friday, we're gonna have

502
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: a special guest on the show again. Do you want

503
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: to see, let's pick us for that?

504
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely? And I love special guests.

505
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Speaker 1: So then let's talk about the comin event on this card,

506
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: Neil Magni taking on Daniel Rodriguez. Now, the odds on

507
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: this one I think are actually pretty fair, and it

508
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: tells you all you need to know about this matchup.

509
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: It's a pick'em folks. They've got Neil Magnet at about

510
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: a minus one fifteen Daniel Rodriguez at about a minus

511
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: one oh five. It's a coin flip. PC's that fair

512
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: or not?

513
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: Yes, Because at this point in his career, at thirty five,

514
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: who is Neil Magni. He's the ultimate and I say

515
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: this with full respect. He's the ultimate gatekeeper in this division.

516
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: Just got hammered out by shavkott ruck Modoff. But that's

517
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 2: what your boy does. In between the losses. When he

518
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 2: does step up above water, he'll get you two three,

519
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 2: four wins in a row. He'll sometimes beat guys who

520
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: look like they're coming on, but he's that ultimate test.

521
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: It's not that d Rod is this bright young prospect.

522
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: I mean he's aging too. But with Daniel Rodriguez coming

523
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: off of that lane, the layoff and you know got

524
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: that close win last time out when they switched opponents.

525
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: I didn't think he had won that fight, but he

526
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: got the nod. He's moving forward. He wants to be active,

527
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: he wants to be now because he knows it's it's

528
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 2: d Rod's time to figure out how good he can

529
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: be in that regard. You love this matchup. It's a

530
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: little interesting to me that it's basically a pick them

531
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Speaker 2: that nobody's in the plus odds wise at the moment,

532
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 2: because I look at their status of where they're at now,

533
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 2: does it not feel like d Rod's, you know, got

534
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: the momentum that he's about to make a move. To

535
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: make that move, you got to get by these tough

536
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: Swiss army knifs like Neil Magni. But style for style here, Luke,

537
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 2: I like de Rod coming into this one. I'm a

538
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 2: little surprised that it's basically a pick them.

539
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. It's like, in general, Neil Magni

540
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: has fought better opposition, right you pointed out he lost

541
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: a Rockmanov. Okay, no shame there. Rockmanov is Rockmanov. And

542
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: then before that he beat Max Griffin and they had

543
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: the winner for Jeff Neil, which was a very tough win.

544
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: He lost to Kiss so he got out wrestled basically,

545
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: and then he had the win over Lawler, although a

546
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: very diminished version, so he doesn't have quite the win streak,

547
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: but he's certainly been in there. He's been in five

548
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: round main events, right, He's been there against guys who

549
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: we look like as potential title contenders. And whether he's

550
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: won or he's lost, he's just he understands what it's

551
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: like to be up against. Then Daniel Rodriguez hasn't quite

552
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: done that. And I know what folks are saying, well,

553
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: did he really beat the Leech? You know, it was

554
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: all crazy. It was last minute, the leach was the

555
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: one who had to give it the weight. It was

556
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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty pounds, blah blah blah, you know,

557
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: and then even then it was very close. I think

558
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: I thought I had the Leech winning that contest. Either way. Yeah,

559
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: just hasn't quite Yeah, he hasn't had that breakout moment

560
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: yet exactly. But I do understand why the odds are close.

561
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Rodriguez is a very good boxer, very good striker.

562
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: He seems to be very well trained. He moves forward

563
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: a lot, He's got Let's see his overall takedown defense

564
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: seventy three percent, take down accuracy such that he needs

565
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: it fifty five percent. How about this strikes landa per

566
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: minute seven point seven to five, I mean massive, massive number.

567
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: Now he does eat a ton at five point three five.

568
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 1: That tends to speak to his style and how it's

569
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more given and take and there's a lot,

570
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: a little bit more trading involved. I think Neil Magnie

571
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: likes to stick and move. He also has a positive differential,

572
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: although much smaller on both strikes landed and absorbed. But

573
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: it sort of speaks to what you're gonna get with him.

574
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: So it seems to me. BC correct me if I'm wrong.

575
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: Seems to me one two main factors I'm looking at

576
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: this one. The numbers speak to it pretty clearly. Two

577
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: point three one strikes excuse me, two point three ones

578
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: three to one takedowns landed per fifteen minutes for Neil Magni,

579
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: I think he has to mix in the takedowns. I

580
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: don't know if he can win an outright striking battle

581
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: with Rodriguez. He might be able to because he can

582
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: be long and crafty, but in assuming that that's not

583
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: really going to be in play as the fight goes on,

584
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: what does he do then? I think the takedown has

585
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: to be a component of it. I think the other

586
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: one is that for Neil Magne BC in addition to

587
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: mixing that up, I think he's got to put a

588
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: pace on Rodriguez. Rodriguez doesn't mind a pace. I want

589
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: to be clear about that, but that's the way you're

590
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: going to force this guy into error, force him to

591
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: making a mistake which can then wrap up potentially into

592
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 1: body lock or takedown opportunit.

593
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so here's the deal. Though we both thought the

594
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: leech edged him out, it was a close, it didn't

595
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: turn into an absolute war like we expected to be.

596
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: It was kind of technical in many ways. And d

597
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: Rod can do that. Won't Magni potentially pushing a pace,

598
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: which is again what he does. He's got a phenomenal

599
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: gas tank. Won't that bring out the best to d Rod.

600
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: That's why when I look at these odds, you know,

601
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: I almost want if I'm you know, no one's gonna

602
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 2: ask me for consultation, right, no one say a BC,

603
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: how do I win this plight? But you know, if

604
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: Daniel Rodriguez did, because he knows how much I love him,

605
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: despite our opposite opinions on the amount of tattoos we

606
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: should have on our body, I tell him, you got

607
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 2: to go after this guy. You got to make a statement.

608
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: It's your time. You've been off, you've been away, it

609
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: is your time. You got that win. So survive in events,

610
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: but come out gun slinging. If Magni pushes a pace,

611
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 2: it's gonna bring out the danger, It's gonna bring out

612
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: the best to d rod This could be a big

613
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: moment for him. This is I mean, look, he's got

614
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 2: a comin of an opportunity here. Like I mentioned, he

615
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: wants to stay busy. He's what thirty five. I mean,

616
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: he's got to go. This might be the opponent and

617
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: the pace that brings out that beast in him, you know, collectively,

618
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: because if you try to play chess with Neil Magni,

619
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: I think that's where you can get. You can get

620
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: you know, run around or if you try to come

621
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: after him, but you don't have that technical base. He

622
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: concides that he can do some things. He can take

623
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: you down. If Magne's going to push a pace on

624
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: d Rod, he's gonna find out what that with that

625
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: area code on his chest is all about, Luke, you know,

626
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 2: or that that year or whatever the hell? What. Look,

627
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: he's got aggressive tattoos, bro, I'm not saying they look back.

628
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: He uses a lot of negative space on his tattoos

629
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: as well, which is interesting.

630
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 2: Uh.

631
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: I think the year on his body is I gotta

632
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: remember what year is it. But what people are doing

633
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: is they're taking old English lettering or certain types of it,

634
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: and then getting the year that they're born tattooed on them.

635
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nineteen eighty six, which is the year he

636
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: was born. Look, he's thirty five.

637
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: So there you go. That's what I has to Yeah,

638
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: you can see that in ninety six. Yeah, he used

639
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: our teams.

640
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: Look at our team on the fucking ball, Luke, right,

641
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: just reacting to us, right.

642
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I love that. That's good stuff. Yeah,

643
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: but you can see. I mean, this is gonna be

644
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: a fun one. And by the way, BC, let me

645
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: ask you this one and the answer has to be

646
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: rodriguezunless I'm missing something. If this were a five round fight,

647
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: you would like Magni's chances more. But it's a three

648
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: round contest. So for that reason, I like Rodriguez's chances

649
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: just a little bit more than I would if it

650
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: were a five right, and.

651
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: Anyone's saying, WHOA holy crap, you guys, you guys shit

652
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: all over Magne. He's kind of technically the favorite here

653
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: when you look at the odds, well, again, Magni will

654
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: expose you if you're not that guy, right. I think

655
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: we both believed rod could be that guy.

656
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: Right, And in the rankings it's a wash. It's Magni

657
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: at thirteen, Rodriguez at fourteen, So it's not It's not

658
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: like these are vastly different positions. These are This will

659
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: be an incremental win frankly in either direction, and then

660
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: Kisas at twelve, and then mass at all at eleven,

661
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: and then rock Modov at ten, So we're talking about

662
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: a pretty big difference once you move on from there.

663
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: These guys are well matched. This is a well matched fight.

664
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: This is a great test. What does Neil Magni have left?

665
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: Or conversely, how far is Daniel Rodriguez really going to

666
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: go either way. You get a pretty decent answer about

667
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: something relatively important at the top fifteen at one hundred

668
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: and seventy pounds. I really like this matchmaking. I like

669
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: the way they go. This is one of those fights

670
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: we see where you could see it going the distance

671
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't really mind it at all, you know,

672
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: which is not the case for a lot of fights,

673
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: but this one you get, you get a pretty good

674
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: feeling on all right. So also on this card, BC,

675
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: you said you liked all of the up and down

676
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: Holy Hammer potentials. Chase Sherman taking on Josh Parisian. It's

677
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: a heavyway fight, not my favorite. If I could be here,

678
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: I ask you a question.

679
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: Let's be honest here, and I give Chase Sherman a

680
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: lot of credit for getting caught bouncing back, coming back

681
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: in the Vanilla Gorilla entertained. So maybe that's going to

682
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: ultimately be the answer to my question. But for a

683
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: guy that's plus four of his last five, he's always

684
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: in the damn Colemane event or high up in some

685
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: featured spot. Am I wrong?

686
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: He bangs? He bangs? Right? I mean you can what

687
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: are you gonna say, what are you gonna say about

688
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: Chase Sherman A You're gonna say his fights are boring.

689
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's just very hard to say that. Either

690
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: it's either kill or be killed. Now, I guess the

691
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: fight against Arlovski probably wasn't that great, and not everyone

692
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: is all that great. But listen against Jared and he

693
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: wins in the third round via stoppage. He lost to

694
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: Romanov in the first round via stoppage. He lost a

695
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: Collier in the first round via stoppage, had two decisions.

696
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: He beat Ike Villanueva in the second round via stoppage.

697
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: He fought Rashaan Jackson. This is all the way back

698
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: in Island fights. He wins via stoppage. He had two

699
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: fights before that won via stoppage. He wins a lot.

700
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's either either he goes out on the

701
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: shield or someone else does right, And I think for

702
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: that reason they kind of elevate his position. The results themselves,

703
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: the winning and the losing, don't necessarily put him there,

704
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: but that one certainly does elsewhere on the card. BC.

705
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: I wonder if you how you feel about this one.

706
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: This is one that you mentioned one of the fights

707
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: that shouldn't go unnoticed. How about mark O Madsen, No,

708
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: he's not Irish taking on Grant Dawson. Grant Dawson eighteen

709
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: one and one coming off of a win over Jared Gordon,

710
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: which he won via stoppage in the third round. Now

711
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: Mark mattson a little bit longer in the twoth In

712
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: terms of age, I believe he's thirty eight years of age.

713
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: He has a winner, Vince Michelle from UFC two to

714
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: seventy three, one of the very best Greco wrestlers out

715
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: of Europe in his generation, signs this up.

716
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: I love this fight because it is time for Marco Madson.

717
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: We know his age and his situation coming over from

718
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: that great amateur wrestling career. He's four and oh since

719
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: making that UFC debut three years ago. But look, I

720
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: think you would agree there's been some questionable cardio moments.

721
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: There's been some on the fly adjustments that are natural

722
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: when you're making a transition from a singular discipline of

723
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: martial arts to go for at the highest level in

724
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: the UFC. This is correct me if I'm wrong. His

725
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: toughest test today. This is where we're gonna find out

726
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: exactly which direction he's headed. Obviously, if he can take

727
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: control of the fight, he can be dominant. But we've

728
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: seen when people can get him into scraps of lot

729
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: of you know, firefights, he gases. Yeah, straight up, he gases.

730
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: So Grant Dawson can bang, Luke. I like this fight

731
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: to tell us. So it's like, you know, what is

732
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: my analysis as who's gonna win? I'm not really sure

733
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: because I've liked Madson on this journey, but I don't

734
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: know if he's really gonna fully put it together. This

735
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: would be the fight as a plus one eighty five

736
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: underdog against the minus two fifteen Grant Dawson that we're

737
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: gonna find out exactly who he is and where he's

738
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: at at this point. But there's a lot to like

739
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: with him. He seems to be tough as nails. Obviously

740
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 2: he is, you know, dramatic control on the ground when

741
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: he can get you there. How good is Grant Dawson

742
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: in your eyes, Luke?

743
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: Very good? Out of glory mma and fitness. I have

744
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for Grant Dawson's game. Seems like

745
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: he's coming around. By the way one of these resumes,

746
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: that's a little bit of a sleeper resume, not in

747
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: the sense that we already know him. His record is

748
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: good eighteen one and one. I don't mean that. What

749
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean to say is like, you've got fights on

750
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: his record where you're like, huh, that that actually aged

751
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: as well, the Jared Gordon one and that was recent.

752
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: But then he's got Leonardo Santos, Derek Minner who's also

753
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: on this car, Julian Erosa. Dude. He had some tough

754
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: fights early on in his or I should say, midway

755
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: through his journey here, and he answered them in large

756
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: part like yeah, and he had the draw against Rick Glenn.

757
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: I think so in half.

758
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: Of his half of his UFC fights, including the Contender series,

759
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: have been won by submission Luke, so let's not sleep

760
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: on that.

761
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: Fhew. He's very very well trained, good scrambler, good cardio,

762
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: pushes a pace. It really got to like him. Mark

763
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: Mattson a very physical athlete, right, especially with those body locks,

764
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: which you can well imagine from Greco. Has a big

765
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: punch on occasion. But I think in the last fight

766
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: against Michelle, who by the way, is like very underrated tough,

767
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: he just did his cardio was kind of waning. Now

768
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: we mentioned it. Here's another good one tagear Ulanbakov taken

769
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: on Nate Maness. Nate Maness a very good grappler. Ulaanbakoff

770
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: coming off of that weird loss at UFC two seventy

771
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: two to Tim Elliott, I thought he I thought, I

772
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: think I thought he won that contest. I have to

773
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: go back and look, but I believe this was the

774
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: contest where he was Elliott admitted to grabbing his glove

775
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: and then after it was over, he's like, Yo, I'm

776
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: gonna do what I'm gonna do. Either the ref is

777
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: gonna penalize me or he's not, go fuck yourself. And

778
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, yeah, he's right. He's kind

779
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: of right, Like they're either they're gonna do their job

780
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: or they're not. And if they're not, fuck you.

781
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: So it means he's trying luke right.

782
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: It really does. But he's a very good grappler himself.

783
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: You saw that in the Nasciomento fight at UFC two

784
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: sixty seven as well. This is a very very fun contest. Now.

785
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: Nate Manes thirteen two, coming into this contest off a

786
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: loss over Umar and Numergametov and he got housed it

787
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: wasn't even close. But he does have some other good wins,

788
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: for example against Tony Graveley and some other good folks. Tough,

789
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: tough contest. This is a well matched one, I think Ulambakov.

790
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: What do they have him here in the odds? Yeah,

791
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: they got out a minus two to fifteen favorite, Nate

792
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: Maannesse at plus one eighty five. That sounds about right

793
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: to me. I don't think that's crazy at all.

794
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

795
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: Also on the stard VC, Miranda Maverick the biggest favorite

796
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: on this motherfucker right?

797
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 2: How about that six six to one betting favorite?

798
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, minus six ' ten versus Shanna or Shanna Young.

799
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how you pronounced her name correctly? At

800
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: a what is she at a plus four sixty BC? Now, listen,

801
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: you know I've been high on Miranda Maverick. I think

802
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: very highly of her game, her records at ten and four,

803
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: which doesn't really speak to actually how good she is.

804
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: Because she had the two tough fights against Macy Barbara,

805
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: which I thought she won. She did lose to Aaron

806
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: Branchfield outright, and then she went in there and just

807
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: whooped up on Sabina Mazo. What are you expecting from

808
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: this contest.

809
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I expect what the odd they're telling you,

810
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: it should be the potential for domination from random Maverick,

811
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: who could use more momentum. Right, as you mentioned, ended

812
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: that two fight losing skid got the win last time out,

813
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: even if we thought she had beaten Barber, but that

814
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: lost Aaron Blanchfield was straight up, you know, consistent across

815
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: three rounds in your face. But at this point, look,

816
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: I'd like to see a rematch Blanksfield one day, But

817
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: in terms of this fight and where we're at right here,

818
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: I'm still a believer in Mirandom Maverick. Every fighter is

819
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: going to have some of those young hiccups, and by

820
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: the way, she had two hiccups and Invicta on her

821
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: original rise. Up to this point in the UFC, she's

822
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: always in phenomenal shape. You know what she can do

823
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: on the ground, but her striking is coming around too, Luke,

824
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: I look at her as an unfinished product who's putting

825
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: it all together, who still has big potential in this

826
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 2: division to be something. I don't know if I necessarily

827
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: get the matchmaking here in her being this big of

828
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 2: a favorite, I don't know if anyone fell out or what.

829
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: This So this is a rematch, That's why it's a

830
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: rematch from Invicta where Maverick won in the first round

831
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: via rear naked choke. I believe she certainly finished her

832
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: off in the first round. Have to go back and

833
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: double check the method. So I'm wondering if it was

834
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: an exhibition. Yeah, yeah, because it was part of a

835
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: I think a part of a one night tournament. I

836
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: think is the reason it was.

837
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: It technically goes down as an exhibition. It was part

838
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 2: of that flyweight tournament that they were putting out back

839
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. But yeah, Luca, interesting, you know, I mean,

840
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: Shannon Young isn't it isn't coming in with a ton

841
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: of momentum at the moment either.

842
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: So no, but maybe it's one of these situations where

843
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: you just don't know, like who they actually offered a

844
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: fight to and then everyone said no, But then they

845
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: want to stay busy, so they just take a fight,

846
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: and you're like, how does the matchmaking make sense here?

847
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: In many ways it doesn't, other than it's just what

848
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: the matchmakers could come up with, waste on who says

849
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: yes and no. Always remember that also in this card,

850
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: Benito Lopez, who's actually a major underdog, but I think

851
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: he's got a ten to one record against Mario Bautista.

852
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: How about the the BC special Pollyanna Viana taking on

853
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: gin Ufray. I never know how to pronounce it, gin Ufray,

854
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: genu fry, whatever the case.

855
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: Can we call this this? I don't know if this

856
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: is the super Sloppy Special here, Luke, I don't.

857
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it. I don't think that's a right.

858
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: We need another term for it. Just the beast pants

859
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: off Instagram one.

860
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: Two chicks, one fight is that we're calling it, Luke.

861
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, alright.

862
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: Anything else on the card tickle your fancy.

863
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: Uh no, so you know, maybe it's more top end

864
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: in terms of some sneaky good stuff there, but it's

865
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: a fight night card. It is what it is, Luke,

866
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: all right, enjoy it?

867
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: Yes it is. I want to make sure we have

868
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: the right time for this, so that card, by the way,

869
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: will start as I look here. I think the main

870
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: card starts at seven pm, yes, and the pre limbs

871
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: will start at four pm in the east, so early

872
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: start for these ones for folks out there, by the way,

873
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna go head to head with BCNLT doing commentary

874
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: for boxing. So we'll see how that goes, all right.

875
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: See who gets more ratings, Luke.

876
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: Yes, we'll see us or the UFC. We'll see. By

877
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: the way, as indicated, one of these guys could be

878
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: Hammer of the month here, holy hammer. All right, topic

879
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: number two BC, and I'm telling you folks, BC converted

880
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: me and then in research for this fight, I was like, ooh,

881
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: this one is good. This is the one where you

882
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: talk to like the boxing heads and they're the ones

883
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: like rubbing their hands like their gargamele ready to catch

884
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: some smurfs. That's how good this one is. Dimitri Bivol,

885
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: fresh off a win over Canelo Alvarez, takes on Zurdo,

886
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: which means like South Paul left handed, Hiliberto Ramirez, Gilbert

887
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: Gilbeto Ramirez is basically this one it's gonna be for

888
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: the one seventy five pounds, it'll be an Abu Dhabi

889
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: United Arab Emirates. They've got BIVOLBC at a minus four hundred,

890
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: Ramirez at a plus two ninety. Now for boxing odds,

891
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: that's not far apart. BC. Correct me if I'm wrong.

892
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: My understanding is when you look at Ramirez on tape,

893
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: he wows you. He looks like he can do a lot.

894
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: He moved. He would be surprised because he moved up

895
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: to this weight class. He wasn't always at one seventy five.

896
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: He looks think he's filled out very well at one

897
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: seventy five. The knock on Ramirez, unlike for Bivol, is

898
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: that he hasn't had a real super elite name on

899
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: his resume, and so you don't exactly know how good

900
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: he is. Is that a fair assessment of this contest.

901
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: A little bit? So here's the deal. He did. He

902
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: won a world title at one hundred and sixty eight pounds.

903
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: He's aggressive, he's forty four in oh, by the way,

904
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 2: thirty one years old from Mexico. There was a time

905
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: that he was, you know, highly promoted. He was with

906
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: top rank and then he kind of went broke free

907
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 2: and went his own way. It's not that he hasn't

908
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: beaten anyone. He's got a good knockout of Sullivan Barrera,

909
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: he beat Uniesky Gonzalez, who we're gonna call his fight

910
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: on Saturday. You know, he's got a couple strong wins there.

911
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: But good win over Jesse Hard as well at one

912
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: sixty eight, he's moved up to one seventy five. He's

913
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: been trying hard to get into the title picture. He

914
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 2: signed up with Golden boy Oscar de la Hoya promised him,

915
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: I'll make you the mandatory for a world title. I'll

916
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: get you your shot. He kept winning, and here we are.

917
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: He's a southpaw who's aggressive. He's got good power. The

918
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: knock on him on his way up was sometimes he

919
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: can be a little bit too brawling for a guy

920
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 2: with skills. He leaves that chin out there a little

921
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: bit too much. He's worked on that a bit. Here's

922
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: why this matchup that was so interesting because Beevill is

923
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: the ultimate technician. He was the perfect kryptonite for Canelo

924
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: trying to move up and dare to be great because

925
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: he's so solid and steady with that European amateur system background,

926
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: can jabb you to death, can let his hands go.

927
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: Look if Beevall didn't stand in there and let his

928
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: right hand go consistently against Canelo, he wouldn't have won

929
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: that fight. And he did that. But Zerdo Ramirez is

930
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: sort of this. It's like you can watch all of

931
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: his fights and still not really be sure how good

932
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: he is. Does he have that next level gear that

933
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: he's going to need against Beevall. If beev All can

934
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: control you, he'll win it. Boring, He'll totally do that.

935
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: It's up to zero to push this pace. But he

936
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: has that ability. He's got a good punch with that

937
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: left hand. He's aggressive and he goes after it. He's

938
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: been building for years for this type of moment, this

939
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: type of matchup, and the reason why it's huge is

940
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: not only are you fighting for Beevall's WBA title here

941
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: at one hundred and seventy five pounds, but we're all

942
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 2: waiting to make an undisputed fight with Arthur Betterbee, who's

943
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: got the other three belty stop Joe Smith to further

944
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: unify the three titles. That's next for Beevall. That's one

945
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: of the biggest fights you can make in the sport,

946
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: not commercially, but certainly in terms of steaks and unbeaten fighters. Well,

947
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: how about this test that Beevall haves to pass to

948
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: get to that, or maybe this test Deserto Romerez breakthrough

949
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: opportunity to also get to that. Bevall and Ramerez are

950
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: both undefeated. This is a hella good under the radar fight.

951
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: It's going to be on his own. As we mentioned

952
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: Todd Grisham on the call. But Luke, I want to

953
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: see if Gilberto Romerez can go for it, can go

954
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 2: after it. This is obviously not the thing you always

955
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: want to do against Bevall, who's such a chess player.

956
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: But if you play chess with the chess master, you're

957
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 2: gonna get handled. This is what Bevall does. I gotta

958
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: see Gilberto Romerez find that Mexican spirit and go after it. Luke,

959
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: he's forty four and oh No.

960
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: One talks about the way and by the way since

961
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Alfonso Lopez Tko, Sullivan, Barrera ko u Nieski

962
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: Gonzalez Ko Tiko. Excuse me, Dominic, I don't know how

963
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: you pronounce his last name. Bassel Ko. My man is

964
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: on a hot streak. Now let me ask you, though,

965
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: what given that we are admitting that his resume is

966
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: long but doesn't have that super elite name on it,

967
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: what would you say is his best win the Sullivan

968
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: beda win. Is that the best win?

969
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean the two fights with Jesse Hart, who

970
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: at one point was a one hundred and sixty eight

971
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: pound contender. They had two fights that were wars. He

972
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: wanted a decision, and both of those the second one

973
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: of majority decision in twenty eighteen. For that division, that

974
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: was probably the furthest he got. He's fucked bigger names

975
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: at won seventy five. Although Sullivan Brera at that time

976
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: did have three defeats, Uniesky Gunzalez had three defeats. They

977
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: were strong, sturdy names. Though for that division, your point

978
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: is correct. He hasn't fought or beaten anybody on the

979
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: level of Bevall. Doesn't mean he hasn't fought anybody. He's

980
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: just consistently fought sort of that second tier. Look, Top

981
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: Break was working hard. I don't know what the fallout

982
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: was why they broke off. He went his own way.

983
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 2: He had some trouble trying to do his own thing.

984
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: Golden Boys got him. Now this is that opportunity to

985
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 2: show how great you can be. Like we said, he

986
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: can't fully judge against some of these other guys. This

987
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: is the ultimate test for him. Look, I gotta I

988
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: gotta see that Machi, I gotta see that that that

989
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 2: zero come out of him. Okay, I gotta see that

990
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: that action, press the pace and make it happen. This

991
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: could be very interesting theater comes.

992
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: There is the idea that he even though he has

993
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: the win against Arthur Abraham, is the is the idea

994
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: that it won. That was at one sixty eight. I

995
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: believe that was at one sixty eight. And then the

996
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: other one was that, you know, he was kind of

997
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: long in the tooth by the time he fought Ramirez.

998
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: Is that is that the argument there?

999
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: Oh shit, Lou, I'm gonna be honest with you. I

1000
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: completely forgot that he fought Arthur Abraham. Yeah, Abraham by

1001
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen was long in the tooth. That was a

1002
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: unanimous decision. So that that's the best name, without question

1003
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: on his You know, he also beat Maxim Vlasov, so

1004
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: he's Look, he's got some got some decent wins across

1005
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: the way, doesn't have great ones, but he's at a

1006
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: point now where he's forty four and oh he got

1007
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: in the mandatory line, he beat the guys he had

1008
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: to do, and to your point, at one seventy five,

1009
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: he's been knocking fools out. I want to see this man,

1010
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: I want to see this bat so I got a

1011
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: chance to catch up with him a couple of weeks

1012
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: back ahead of this fight. He's worked hard on his

1013
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: English and he's coming around. Here's Gilberto Zerdo Rameri us

1014
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: talking about the challenge of Dmitri Bevall comes Saturday. Be

1015
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: a technician, Gilberto, we know this, he's an excellent boxer.

1016
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: Do you think if this fight turns into more of

1017
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: a fight that you Zerdo will have the advantage.

1018
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course I will have the advantage for in

1019
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: this fire, and people know they will be a hard

1020
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 4: fire for him.

1021
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: But I'm just excited to get a bill and being

1022
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: Ada in November Fiet with with all fans and with

1023
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: the whole people.

1024
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: Now, look, make no mistake, he can box or no

1025
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: American box, but he's gonna have to balance both to

1026
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: really have an effect on the echo that's in my

1027
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: ear and Dmitri Bill. There we go, there we go.

1028
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: We're back all right. But look, you know, here's what's interesting.

1029
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: There's no like hard rule record like we always lie

1030
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: in eye is that lion I is a good thing.

1031
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: That means we push up right, we we we celebrate.

1032
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: Right lion I's yeah, I think it means to make popular.

1033
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: Let me double te right, let me take that out

1034
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: of my dictionary. Moving forward, Luke, we always celebrate Rocky

1035
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: Marciano's forty nine and oh, even though it's not.

1036
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: Like give a lot of public attention and approval to

1037
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: someone treat as a celebrity.

1038
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a mythical sort of record, meaning that

1039
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 2: like you know, Julio says Oarshavs Senior was like eighty

1040
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 2: nine and oh at one point before he finally lost

1041
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: to Frankie Randall. And you know, let's not forget that

1042
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: Sugar Ray Robinson, his prime was something absurd like one

1043
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen and one at one point. But we

1044
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: look back at you know, forty nine and oh Rocky

1045
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: Marciano and obviously Floyd took that to fifty you oh

1046
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: when he beat McGregor, and you know, Joe Kalzaki retired

1047
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: at forty six and oh and look there was the stretch,

1048
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: by the way for about twenty years that anyone who

1049
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: was approaching that Rocky mark Ciano except for Floyd, who

1050
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: beat it, you know, mythical record they would lose at

1051
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: forty eight and oh, like Larry Holmes against Michael Spinks,

1052
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: like Paul Spata four, Like there was a stretch of

1053
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: guys where you're like, are they gonna get there? No,

1054
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: they didn't get there. It was like Rocky coming out

1055
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: of the grave to prevent that. What would it mean

1056
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: if I mean Ramirez is gonna have to beat bev

1057
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: all here and he's probably then gonna have to be

1058
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: better beav What do we do with his forty four?

1059
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: And oh though, like again we're saying he hasn't beaten

1060
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: all killers, but he has not faced bombs. He's faced

1061
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: ranked guys in his division across the way, former champions

1062
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 2: in Abraham, like we mentioned Sullivan, Brerera's no chomp, that's.

1063
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: A good win.

1064
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: Like if he starts approaching that, do we have to

1065
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: take that super seriously historically? Like that's like you don't

1066
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: see that every day that guys get up to this

1067
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: level forty four?

1068
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: Oh right, I don't know what it means because I

1069
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: came to the Ramirez party a little bit late. Uh,

1070
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: you have been paying attention to his career much longer

1071
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: than I have, and so I want to be careless

1072
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: sort of candid with that with the audience. What I

1073
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: have seen from him has been super impressive. You see

1074
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: this sometimes BC. You see these guys take a real

1075
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: kind of like circuitous path to legitimacy, and then it

1076
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: happens all at once, and you're like, oh, right, we

1077
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: should have seen the riding on the wall based on

1078
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: how good he looked up to this point, or you

1079
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: get the more cynical view, which is right, right, he's

1080
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: forty four and oh for a reason. And by the way,

1081
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: apparently he wants to tie Floyd's fifteen. Oh. Now you

1082
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: can compare if he gets to it, Floyd's fifteen oh

1083
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: versus Ramirez is fifteen Oh. I don't think they would

1084
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: be equivalent, But nevertheless, you think if.

1085
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: He gets there, it probably would have had to have

1086
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: beaten Bevall on better Beef to do it.

1087
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: Right. Okay, but dude, like Floyd's resume is, I mean,

1088
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: you can have fucking awesome.

1089
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you best Floyd. He can go seventy eight. Oh,

1090
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: and he's not gonna best Floyd.

1091
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm just you know what I'm saying. I'm

1092
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: just saying, like resume for resume that yes, if he

1093
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: beat let me say this, if he beat Bivoll and

1094
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: then better beef and then maybe by the way Canelo

1095
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: comes back up and it's a Mexican versus Mexican. Oh

1096
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: the fuck knows, then that'd be nothing but a gangster's

1097
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: party there. Fine, Yeah, it still would to touch Floyd.

1098
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 2: And he doesn't have a history of ducking guys when

1099
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: he was with top rank at one sixty eight, he's

1100
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: fighting who he who was available to him at that point.

1101
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: The biggest super middleweights in the world were with other promoters.

1102
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: And obviously, look, but you know, if he's gonna win

1103
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 2: this and then fight better be we're again probably gonna

1104
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: have to get multiple promoters and multiple networks together, which

1105
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: Spence Crawford. It's not always easy, Luke. But let's hear

1106
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: what Gilberto has to say about what he believes this

1107
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: unbeaten record means to him. At this point in that fight,

1108
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: you'll be forty five and oh, you know, in boxing,

1109
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: people love to Revere forty nine, and oh Rocky Marciano

1110
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: fifty and oh Floyd Mayweather, even Joe Calzagi was forty

1111
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: six and oh people love the idea of that. Oh

1112
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: the zero How far do you think you can take

1113
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: this unbeaten streak?

1114
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 4: I will win for sure this match and November fifth,

1115
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: and it will be exciting. And for me, it's motivated

1116
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 4: to keep a forty five and o and to be

1117
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 4: a bit the Floyd record too and be undefeated.

1118
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: I mean, if you get to fifty and oh fifty

1119
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: one in oh, do you think people will start to

1120
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: talk about you as an all time great fighter.

1121
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course those people that will do.

1122
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 3: I'm I'm looking forward.

1123
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: Look, you know what I'd secretly like Zerda to do.

1124
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: Pull out of this fight. Pull out of this fight

1125
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 2: on Saturday, set up shop down in like a Tijuana bar,

1126
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: and just beat as many cab drivers in a row

1127
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: as he can until it gets like one hundred and

1128
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: oh and then just walk off and give the d

1129
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: X shop. You know what do you think about that idea?

1130
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: Well, the first thing you could do is call it

1131
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: Tijuana not Tiajuana. That'd be the first thing that you

1132
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: could do. But after that that'd be great.

1133
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: So moving forward, Just so you know, I speak two languages,

1134
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 2: English and Gringo, and that's the only two albums going

1135
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: to be speaking from here on it.

1136
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: In fairness, BC, those are the only two languages I

1137
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: speak as well.

1138
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, thank you.

1139
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: Ringo is slightly better than yours, but not really, not

1140
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: by much, very marginally.

1141
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: Look, it's I mean again, and if he beats bev

1142
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: All and then better Beef, it's going to mean a

1143
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: lot more. I do give him credit, though, I mean,

1144
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 2: you got to you know, you be for anybody forty

1145
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 2: four times in a row. You've made a good career.

1146
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: This is his big up opportunity, dude. This is a

1147
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: good ass fight. So look, the only thing about bev

1148
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: All is he can be too safe at times, right like,

1149
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: but he stepped out of character, maybe because he was

1150
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 2: the bigger man and he took the fight to Canelo.

1151
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: You've seen Bevall enough to kind of get a feel

1152
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: for him. You think he can win with this stick

1153
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: and move jab you know, a chess style this whole way.

1154
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: Dude, he's crafty. Jesus, he's crafty. And you know here's

1155
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: the other part too. It's like Ramirez to me, at

1156
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: least of late from the tape I've seen, been a

1157
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: little bit more offensively minded. He's got great setups to

1158
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: cut distance, he's got good body attacks, he's got Dude,

1159
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: fucking Ramirez has phenomenal body attacks, and I got to say,

1160
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: I do think that's the one thing on tape that

1161
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say Billvall is bad at. But that's

1162
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: not where he necessarily excels as like defense to the body.

1163
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: So there's ways Ramirez can do this. But fucking Bivol man,

1164
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: he is real crafty, he changes up rhythm, he's good

1165
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: about distance, he's disciplined for the most part about his defense. Like,

1166
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: it's just really hard to get that guy to make

1167
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: a mistake, and I think Zerdo is gonna have to

1168
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: really really go in there and mix it up with

1169
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: him and force that out of him. So for that reason,

1170
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: I understand why the odds favor Bivol. But like most

1171
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: people again, and I'm late to the party on this

1172
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: again to be totally transparent with the audience, but from

1173
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 1: what I can tell, it seems like Ramirez is gonna

1174
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: do that. He's gonna absolutely go heavy on the body work,

1175
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: heavy on the pressure, and is it gonna be up

1176
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: to Bivol to resist that. I tend to think this

1177
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: is gonna be back and forth, and honestly, BC, this

1178
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: fight to me is gonna be one in the last

1179
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: third of the fight, right the last third, rounds nine

1180
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: through twelve. That's really what's gonna decide this because you're

1181
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: gonna get some guys having momentum in other parts where

1182
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: if you're Bivol you have to make sure you have

1183
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: enough output and if you're Ramirez that you're not walking

1184
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: into too many traps. But that really is kind of

1185
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: where the central tension lies.

1186
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: No question about it. And if pev All can't hurt him,

1187
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: right we I mean, has has Zerdo been CHINNI not really? No,

1188
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: I mean he's never lost. You know, there's been times that,

1189
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: like I said, at one sixty eight, we had fears

1190
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: that he might get caught by a big puncher one day.

1191
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: But you know, if pev All can't hurt him, the

1192
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: second half of this fight could get very interesting. Did

1193
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: you see on the undercard? Look, it almost fooled me.

1194
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: There's a boxer name shavcot Zon rock Emov. That's almost

1195
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: your guy.

1196
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: It's almost shave cuts Don Rocky Mouf almost similar to Dovoltz,

1197
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: don Yaghi Mura.

1198
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: No, No, almost almost shovcut Rockmanov. It's it's close. It's

1199
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 2: just like you know, it's like it's.

1200
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: Between shavkt Rockmanov and dovlet Don Yakma Dovre there it

1201
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: is also BC. I don't know if I stayed this

1202
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: at the top. This will air on de Zone. This

1203
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: will air on Dezone. It will be in the afternoon

1204
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: by virtue of the fact that it's on in Abu Dhabi,

1205
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: United Arab Emirates. Okay, should be a fun fight. We'll

1206
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: talk more about that on Friday. You see. Let's go

1207
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: back to some UFC stuff, which I find this story

1208
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: to be actually quite fascinating because poort al Jamain Sterling,

1209
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: every time he builds up some like fan favor, he

1210
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: then elects to to kind of dump on it a

1211
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: little bit. Now, I want to be clear about this.

1212
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: Here's what happened. So he wins at UFC two eighty,

1213
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: and here's what the fans saw. The fans saw a

1214
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: guy in Sterling in phenomenal condition go out there and

1215
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: just beat the shit up TJ. Delashaw for however long

1216
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: it lasted. We all know the story about Dila Shaw

1217
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: being horribly injured going into it, but it wasn't like

1218
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: a guy like al Jamn Sterling took a ton of

1219
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: damage in the fight. He took virtually nothing. I'm not

1220
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: even sure if he had a punch landed on him.

1221
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: He didn't resist any offense. It was just how much

1222
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: work could you do from the back and mount? So

1223
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: it's over. He does a little bit of media and

1224
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: then this week he comes out and says, yeah, I'm

1225
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: not going to fight until June BC. Before we go

1226
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: to you on this, we have a video about it.

1227
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: I'd like to play the video and then I want

1228
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: to get your reaction if I can, let's roll the video.

1229
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: What's this thing on? Oh?

1230
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 3: Okay?

1231
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 5: So this is a message so when my band waits

1232
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 5: out there, for all the people that actually been in

1233
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 5: a five round fight, you know how intense those five

1234
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 5: round training camps are, especially mine because I go hard

1235
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 5: in the pink. Henry, you should know exactly what I'm

1236
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 5: talking about. You've been through these five round camps, but

1237
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 5: you've been on the sidelines for two and a half years,

1238
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 5: so I have no problem finding you, Henry. I just

1239
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 5: want the biggest fight, and if that's you, then step

1240
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 5: up to the play.

1241
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 2: If you want to wait for their boy, you can wait.

1242
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 3: If not, go take another fight and kick rocks Cheeto.

1243
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 5: San Hagen, Sean O'Malley whatever, any one of you guys, man,

1244
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 5: if you want to wait for me, give me some

1245
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 5: time to let my body heal. It's not easy for

1246
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 5: me to make one thirty five and again. These five

1247
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 5: round training camps are not these three round fights where

1248
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 5: people make these quick turnarounds. That's why champions don't typically

1249
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 5: fight more than one time a year.

1250
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: Two if they're lucky.

1251
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 5: So I fought twice already, Give me a little bit

1252
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 5: of time and I'll come back and kick everybody's ass.

1253
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 5: Let's go funk out.

1254
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: Your reaction.

1255
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: Wow. Remember that song by Extreme If you don't like

1256
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: what you see here, get the funk out. Okay, I

1257
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: guess I was alone in nineteen ninety one. Yeah, it's

1258
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 2: off of that Pornographiti album. Okay, anyway back to this, Luke,

1259
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: here's the deal. Is that a fair statement from al Joe?

1260
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: Five round camps are, you know, hard and arduous and

1261
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: he just went through another one. Yes, If al Jo

1262
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: had more money in the bank. From the standpoint of

1263
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: his accomplishments as champion and his recent track record, it

1264
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 2: wouldn't be ridiculous to say, Look, I've been running hot

1265
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: and hard instead of fighting. Maybe Sahudo in February. Can

1266
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: we just push it back, you know, three more months too,

1267
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 2: or four more months to June maybe, But this is

1268
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: not the situation Aljo's in. The situation Aljo's in is

1269
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 2: he's a top currently the deepest division in the sport

1270
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: inarguably of all time. As much as people hate when

1271
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 2: we constantly put that tag on it, it's just where

1272
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 2: it's at. And to your earlier point of him, whether

1273
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: it's his fault or not, can't really get out of

1274
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: his own way. Look, he won the title by DQ,

1275
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 2: not his fault, but the way things played out afterwards,

1276
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: he kind of became a villain and then he was

1277
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 2: out a long time before we finally got that rematch,

1278
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: which held up the division. Then TJ. Dillashaw got hurt

1279
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: after earning a number one contender spot more or less,

1280
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: and that held up the division further. And even though

1281
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: all Joe I give him so much credit for turning

1282
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: the narrative back around by beating Yan in the rematch,

1283
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: it was also a split decision and there are Yon truthers.

1284
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: I don't agree with that, but there are meaning it

1285
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: wasn't some dominant, clear win. And then also not his fault.

1286
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: Once more, he finally goes to fight TJ, and we

1287
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: saw what happened. The shoulder popped out instantly. It wasn't

1288
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: a fight, Luke, he doesn't have you know, it's not

1289
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: like Enganu when you know, it's not like it's.

1290
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 3: Not like that.

1291
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: You know, like his needn't fall apart. I don't think

1292
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: he has the leverage right now to make this kind

1293
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 2: of demand when this division is already so hot. I mean,

1294
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, Sean O'Malley just beat yan someone. You know,

1295
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: I want to say fair and square. It was disputed, right,

1296
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 2: but he won the fight. This is a deep loaded

1297
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: division that has already been bottlenecked. We kind of need

1298
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: some clarity. So who might parachute in? As Aeriel reported

1299
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: in others that this is what UFC's trying to target.

1300
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: Look they, I mean, UFC doesn't give leverage like this

1301
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: to guys unless they're super accomplished. Remember when in Ghanu

1302
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 2: finally beat Steepe and he became the champion, and then

1303
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: the UFC was like, fuck you, you can't come back

1304
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: in three months. All right, we're putting an interim title

1305
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: out there, and we're gonna shit talk to you for

1306
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: the rest of the time, because you know you want

1307
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: to fight in five months instead of three. I don't

1308
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: see how this is gonna work in his favor. I mean,

1309
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: you know, would the UFC strip him? No, it doesn't

1310
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 2: deserve to be stripped. The most likely scenario is they

1311
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: probably just put an interim title on the line and

1312
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 2: we see O'Malley step up and fight for it. But

1313
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: is this a good look? Is this a continuation of

1314
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: great pr for for Algie, whether it's his fault or not.

1315
00:58:59,800 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: Not.

1316
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a continuation of him kind of looking like

1317
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: a somewhat of a trolling villain. It's not all fair,

1318
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: but that's the reality. Look, I'm not like, does he

1319
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: have a major injury that's keeping him out right now?

1320
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like he does. He's banged up. I

1321
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,479
Speaker 2: can respect that, but you're always banged up at this level.

1322
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: But here's the thing of your aljo right now. If

1323
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: I were his pr representative, I probably would have had

1324
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: him package the message a little bit differently to make

1325
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: it more palatable. But you got to back up a

1326
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: second here, and you got to understand al Jebyn's position.

1327
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: So you have finally ascended to the very top of

1328
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: this division. You had what is technical well more than

1329
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: your first title defense, but you had your first was

1330
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: supposed to be real title defense. It fell apart in

1331
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: the sense that nothing he did was wrong, Everything he

1332
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: did was right. He took the fight, and you know

1333
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: it was what it was. But that's not on Al Joe.

1334
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: But you know you are now fight after fight, you're

1335
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna be facing either the very next toughest guy or

1336
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: someone in approximately in that level. This is the peak

1337
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: of your earning potential. This is the peak of your

1338
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: of your leveraging powers, whatever they may be. If you're

1339
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: Aljamain Sterling, you're saying to yourself, I think from what

1340
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: he's saying, I cannot go into these fights fucked up.

1341
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: I cannot. I don't have the luxury. This is it.

1342
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: This is the moment in my career to make maximum

1343
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: money against the maximally tough guys on the biggest cards

1344
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: of the UFC can Hold or something like that. Right,

1345
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: I cannot go into these fucked up And if you've

1346
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: had a five round camp, I mean I realized that

1347
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: the problem is the fans see what happened in the fight,

1348
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: which was basically nothing to him, and they're like, oh,

1349
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: you should be fine, but you have no idea to

1350
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: that nick injury kept them out for a long time.

1351
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: You just have no idea what injuries he's dealing with.

1352
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: He didn't disclose them. I kind of feel like he

1353
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: should have. If I was his pr rep. I kind

1354
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: of feel like you should have disclosed a little bit

1355
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: more of that to help folks understand. But I get

1356
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: Aljamain's position. However, However, we should also acknowledge that while

1357
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: I fully understand why he's doing what he's doing, I

1358
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: just don't think the UFC is necessarily going to be

1359
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: all that accommodating. I think this kind of declaration is

1360
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: almost certain to put a interim title in play. I

1361
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: just feel like they're gonna do that. Now, they might not,

1362
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: it seems like there's some possibilities around that, but it

1363
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: seems like they're probably going to, especially if Shudo gets

1364
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: back involved or Sean O'Malley gets back involved, or is

1365
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: in a title picture one way or the other. So,

1366
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: like why I'm very sympathetic to algaeb Man Strolling's position.

1367
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: I think people just don't have really any clue what

1368
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: these guys go through to get ready for five round fights.

1369
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: And I know you've said, oh, I saw X fighter

1370
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: do it, I saw a WI fighter do it, right,

1371
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean they weren't dealing with injuries. And

1372
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: how many fighters have we seen go through with fights

1373
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: when they were fucked up and then the fights themselves

1374
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 1: were a disaster? Hello, TJ. Dillashaw just did that. They'll

1375
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: do it all the time. He wants to give himself

1376
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: the best opportunity to give himself a chance to win,

1377
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: to hold onto this position. But the UFC is built

1378
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: on turnover, turning over events, getting fights made, moving the

1379
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: trains out of the station on time. That's what they're

1380
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: about it. If you don't facilitate that, they'll just go

1381
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: around you. And I tend to think what you're gonna

1382
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: get here is one way or the other. Sooner or

1383
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: later you're probably going to get an interim title fight

1384
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: out of this with who. I don't know, but that's

1385
01:01:58,760 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: what I think is that we're headed next.

1386
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: Okay, you're right, Aljo's really not doing much wrong here.

1387
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 2: And again, some of those things, like the DQ and

1388
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: the TJ gettin hurt, it's not his fault. But you know,

1389
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 2: pr wise, you know saying champions are lucky. You know

1390
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: they fight once. Ye're lucky to fight too. No, in boxing,

1391
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 2: maybe that's that's sometimes our biggest problem. Fighters don't fight

1392
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: enough the highest level of the UFC luke. They tend

1393
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: to fight fairly off. Am I wrong?

1394
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: Well, let's spin it back, because you kind of said

1395
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: something very interesting, which was Aljo's not doing anything wrong.

1396
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,919
Speaker 1: I think in terms of preserving his interests, I don't

1397
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: think he's doing anything wrong. In terms of his messaging

1398
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: to the public, I think he probably could have done

1399
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: it a little bit differently. I would have been like, listen,

1400
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: here's the reality. I've got these things that are affecting me.

1401
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: I can't I don't trust my ability to compete favorably

1402
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: to you guys. What I don't want to do is

1403
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: what Dillashaw did against me. I don't want to cheat

1404
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: my opponents. I don't want to cheat the sport. I

1405
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: don't want to cheat the fans. I understand that this

1406
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: is frustrating. To get better as soon as I possibly can,

1407
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: it's just I can't make the kind of turnaround that

1408
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: folks expect. I don't think there'd be a welcoming message

1409
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: to that necessarily, but I don't think you'd see the

1410
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: the harsh reaction that was greeted to this message. Would

1411
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: you agree? Or am I overstating it?

1412
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: You're right, it's just again like I don't know if

1413
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 2: he has that leverage to demand this. And you know

1414
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: the division is there's the best division in the game.

1415
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 2: So I mean, look, if they put an nterom title

1416
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: on the line and he's allowed to wait until June,

1417
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: then he wins and it works right, And is there

1418
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: an overflowing of names you can do? I mean, look,

1419
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 2: look if they did, here's a matchup I don't think

1420
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: a single person has talked about, but you do. So

1421
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: Huto versus Charlet Maalley for the interim title and like

1422
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 2: fresh good. I mean that Okay, So the reality is

1423
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: that fixes that. And maybe I'm being a dick, but

1424
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 2: I guarantee you there's gonna be a conversation with Dana

1425
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: and Algae on the phone that's going to sound a

1426
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 2: lot like one of the best movie quotes that I

1427
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: can bring up. Do you remember that nineteen ninety three

1428
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: college football cinematic classic called The Program, Luke? Remember that?

1429
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: Great? Yes?

1430
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, which I saw opening night before they pulled

1431
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: that scene out of the fleet. By the way, I

1432
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: saw that opening night and my football team, Dogs to

1433
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: High School, was in the theater and Waterbury and so

1434
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 2: was cross behind and they got into a brawl in

1435
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 2: the theater while this all the ship was going on.

1436
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 2: The screen sold out. It was great. Uh James Kahn,

1437
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 2: the you know, the one of the all time greatest

1438
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: Luke Uh. You remember he looked at that running back

1439
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 2: that got omar reps that got nailed, and he goes,

1440
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: are you hurt or are you injured? Because there is

1441
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 2: a difference.

1442
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: Look, are are you really going to do this bit

1443
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: where we're policing al Jamain's sterling stuff?

1444
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 3: Now?

1445
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: No, really, I'm not.

1446
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: Saying that's coming from me. I'm saying I guarantee you

1447
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a call he has with the USC. Anyway,

1448
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 2: the larger point is if they make something like Sir

1449
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 2: Hudo versus O'Malley dude, that's a fucking event, right, I mean,

1450
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: that's a great ass fight.

1451
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: Sob the U is gonna be like, this is why

1452
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: I think the USC is gonna look at what Aljamain

1453
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: did and they're gonna be like, Okay, fine, we're just

1454
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: gonna move on with the division, like you can do

1455
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. They're not gonna strip him because

1456
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: he obviously is intending to come back in June. Is

1457
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: it's the end of second quarter, which is late but

1458
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: not the end of the world per se. But I

1459
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: think they're just gonna be unsympathetic to it, as this

1460
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: is ultimately reality. It's like, what would you want with

1461
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: a message like that. You would want to give some

1462
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: transparency to the rest of the division, which he did.

1463
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: He did, I'm gonna be out for X amount of time.

1464
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: You got that, and you would want some kind of

1465
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: understanding of your situation. I don't think he necessarily got

1466
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: that with it. However, V See, this could all prove

1467
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: to be for naught because let's let's bring up your

1468
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,479
Speaker 1: point here. Imagine UFC does, in fact make a Shawan

1469
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: O'Malley versus Henry Shudo in a ROIM title fight. I

1470
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: don't know that they will, but let's assume for the

1471
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: sake of conversation that they do. Whoever wins that, once

1472
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: you unify the belts, that's gonna make the fight even

1473
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: fucking bigger. It's gonna if Hudu walks in there with

1474
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: another belt, or Sean O fucking Malley walks in there

1475
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: with a belt. The whole they're gonna they're gonna challenge

1476
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: his legitimacy for thirling. They're gonna challenge everything about it.

1477
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna make it even bigger. They're gonna make him

1478
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: the villain, by the way, They're gonna present themselves as

1479
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: the saviors of the division, whether any of that is

1480
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: true or not. So Like, on the one hand, we're

1481
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: sitting her handwringing about his message. On the other hand,

1482
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: it may not make a difference. They're gonna make an

1483
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: interim title. I doubt Sterling cares, but it makes the

1484
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: whole thing bigger in the end anyway.

1485
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: Just to be fair on pot and kettle hair, like,

1486
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: this is kind of what Alexander Husak just did, right

1487
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 2: saying I got a couple of nagging injuries. I know,

1488
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: I just beat Joshua a second time. We all want

1489
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,479
Speaker 2: me to fight Fury. Can we push that out until March?

1490
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 2: And you know we all know what happened. Fury has

1491
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 2: this seemingly unnecessary to Sora fight first. So again, I'm

1492
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 2: not trying to say al Joe is wrong. I just

1493
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 2: think the optics it doesn't look great. UFC is a

1494
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: different setup than boxing, And do you think this f's

1495
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: sterling anyway in terms of leverage with the company, because

1496
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: you know the company doesn't look at this and go

1497
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: oh yeah, no problem, go for it. Tell us when

1498
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna be ready, they're gonna be like, fuck, your

1499
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: business goes on. Does this hurt him in the long run?

1500
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: Does he lose negotiation leverage with this?

1501
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: Hard to say? I mean, you're right, like the UFC

1502
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: is like these trains are all leaving the tracks at

1503
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: these times. Either you're gonna get on it or you're

1504
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: not gonna get on it. And if you're not gonna

1505
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: get on it, you're just gonna get left behind. Whether

1506
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: or not that is fair, whether or not, that's how

1507
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: they should do it, that is how they do it.

1508
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I can't imagine that they

1509
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: love it. But at the same time, it's not like

1510
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: they don't have some options. Bantamweight is hot everyone else

1511
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: besides Sterling, or I shouldn't everyone else, But there are

1512
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: other names anyway outside of Sterling that are hot. Cheeto's

1513
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: hot Corey Sanhegan had a nice wind to come back

1514
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: as he did. Obviously Shelalley's doing things, Senry Hut, we

1515
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: have a response.

1516
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 2: I want to ask, well, before you get to Suto,

1517
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 2: I just want to ask you this. Okay. I just

1518
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 2: threw at Suhudo and O'Malley kind of like on the fly,

1519
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: and I was like, damn, that'd be great? Is it

1520
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 2: in reality? Though? Because Suhudo also has to like get

1521
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: in a camp and get back and all that, and

1522
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: I know he's been in the drug testing pool. Is

1523
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: is Marlin Vera versus O'Malley part two the actual better

1524
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 2: fight that accomplishes everything.

1525
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: Hard to know if it's better because we don't know

1526
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: we're going to get from Suhudo. But that's a damn

1527
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: good fight. A damn good fight I.

1528
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 2: Think keeps everybody happy, right, I mean, it really keeps

1529
01:07:59,000 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 2: everybody happy.

1530
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: We were to fight for Yan over O'Malley, but I

1531
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: thought O'Malley performed very well and clearly showed he was

1532
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: high level guy. And again you can make a case

1533
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: for him that he won independent of whether or not

1534
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: the judges agreed one way or the other. So I

1535
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: really thought pretty highly of what he did, and I

1536
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: think a second fight. I mean we said it before

1537
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: due cheto Vera is the king of the five rounders

1538
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: and that would be a five round contest if it

1539
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: was for an interim belt. I fucking love it. There's

1540
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: nothing else we dislike about that.

1541
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: Are we once again just shitting on Morob by not

1542
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 2: bringing him in here into this conversation because the hiccup

1543
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 2: and him getting a title shot as his teammate, well,

1544
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 2: his teammates hurt. They're not going to put him in

1545
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 2: an interim title fight to potentially then have to fight

1546
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 2: his teammate, right unless they want f Algib James Kahn

1547
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 2: say are you injured or hurt?

1548
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: Both guys have to really hold the line. And in

1549
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: the case of Fitch and cost Check, it worked because

1550
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: neither was the belt holder, right, they were all chasing

1551
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 1: GSP and so there was just different opportunities to get ahead.

1552
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: This is different because one guy is holding the belt,

1553
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: and so as a consequence, you kind of have to

1554
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: like really sub you know, sublimate your own interests for

1555
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: someone else's. I tend to think that only works for

1556
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: a time. But at the same time, BC, here's just

1557
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: the reality, the winterver Aldo was legitimate in a way.

1558
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: Certainly the judges agreed, but it was hardly inspiring. Dude,

1559
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 1: you could do just the four names I picked, san Haagen, Cheeto, O'Malley,

1560
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: and Shudo. Any combination of those is fucking awesome. Any

1561
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: combination of them is awesome. Sanagan, you couldn't put right

1562
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: away in a title fight. I don't think that would work.

1563
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: But all the other variations, all the other three guys,

1564
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: you could put in a title fight or interim title

1565
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: fight and it would be great. So do the It's

1566
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: not like the UFC doesn't have options at thirty five.

1567
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: They got a lot of ways they can make this work,

1568
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: which also, by the way, to defend Stirling a little

1569
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: bit more. Maybe he looked at it and I was like, dude,

1570
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 1: these guys have got to figure it out. I'm going

1571
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: to take my time while they do. And maybe he

1572
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: just said that's worth it to me. You know, I

1573
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: can understand that as well. But here's what's going to happen,

1574
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: by the way, and you know this too, BC. What's

1575
01:09:58,280 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: gonna happen is that he's going to fight the win

1576
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: whoever is ready for him. By the time he comes back.

1577
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: He may he may win, certainly, but let's posit a

1578
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: scenario where Sterling waits this long, comes back and loses. Dude,

1579
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: the fans are going to assault him for it, whether

1580
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: or not they're right. Like this whole idea is not

1581
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 1: that taking your time off guarantees your chances. Taking time

1582
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: off just gives you the very best chance that you have.

1583
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: And that's what Sterling appears to be reaching for here,

1584
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: quite understandably, peak of his powers. This is the most

1585
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: money he's ever gonna earn in the most high profile

1586
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: fights he's ever going to be in. This is the

1587
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: time to make it all count. So you want to

1588
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: make sure you're healthy. But if it doesn't work out

1589
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: that way, he'll be assassinated for it, even though that

1590
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 1: isn't necessarily what he's trying to do. He's not trying

1591
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: to guarantee a win, just give himself the.

1592
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 2: Best chance, like William McKinley.

1593
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, real quickly, let's see the uh, let's see

1594
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: the Henry Shudo response, and then we'll move on to

1595
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: the next topic here.

1596
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 2: I just want to see Starfield.

1597
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: Hey, Dana White, this dude is straight up scared. I

1598
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: thought d and Marlin Mirich who knocked him out cold

1599
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: in round one. All in ten months when I retired,

1600
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: I never held up the division. You had my pink

1601
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: slip on that Monday hashtag the hit Man.

1602
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, captain cringe. Look, I want to who

1603
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 2: to parachute back into this and get a shot. I

1604
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 2: know you've been going back and forth on ig with

1605
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 2: the Captain.

1606
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: Right just a little bit. I think he misunderstood me.

1607
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: He was like, you're you're not giving Henry the respect

1608
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 1: of his abilities. I'm like, I'm not talking about his

1609
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: abilities at all. I'm not making one mention of it.

1610
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: The topic or the pick that was or though, excuse me,

1611
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: the video footage that was selected for the Instagram reel

1612
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: was just about whether or not Henry versus Vulk is

1613
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 1: the same as Vulk versus Islam, And for several reasons,

1614
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they're even remotely equivalent. And so that's

1615
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: the argument that I'm making, not that Henry is some

1616
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, overrated fight or something. Dude, He's amazing. I

1617
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: want nothing. I never wanted him to retire in the

1618
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: first place. I want him back and in the mix.

1619
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 1: I just don't think those are equivalent fights.

1620
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just look the nature of this bus in

1621
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 2: promoting our show on social media, A lot of times

1622
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 2: you're going to get a point pulled out of context,

1623
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: not fully nuanced.

1624
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: Right.

1625
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 2: I think that's why some fighters maybe see those clips

1626
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 2: and go, Man, these guys are assholes. That guy BC

1627
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 2: doesn't no shit about fighting, right. I mean maybe that's

1628
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: why you're on Hall doesn't like us. Luke anyway, are

1629
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 2: you down with san Haagen versus Morob? You down with that?

1630
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: Sure, it's a tough fight for san Haagen, but yes, absolutely,

1631
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: someone's got to fight this monster. But if they're going

1632
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: to do the O'Malley and Henry Sahudo fight, let's just

1633
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: say that they do that again, who the fuck knows?

1634
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: Then I would want to see Cheeto versus san Haagen

1635
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: because that fight I have more interest in personally. That's

1636
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: a little bit more fun.

1637
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 2: Well, what do you think about Daniel Snyder putting the

1638
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 2: Red Commanders out for sale and then Zoofa purchases it

1639
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: and puts the Slap Dick League as the halftime show

1640
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 2: every week?

1641
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, anything is better than Daniel Snyder. Anything.

1642
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: The Slap League is better than Daniel Snyder and the

1643
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: Slap League is Bassora. I mean, let's just be honest

1644
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 1: about that. So, oh, it's gotta be real sadttheah, it's

1645
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: gonna be real sad. The first UFC fighter who then

1646
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: leaves UFC and doesn't go to BKFC but then goes

1647
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: to the Slap League, I'm gonna be real sad that day.

1648
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: That's one point, all right, BC, last but not least

1649
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: for our top five topics or our top four topics today.

1650
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: This was an interesting one. So we were all waiting

1651
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 1: for not this coming week or I should say the twelfth.

1652
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: We all thought in the nineteenth it was going to

1653
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: be Terrence Crawford taking on Eryl Spence or Spence Crawford

1654
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: everyone to say it, and it just didn't materialize. So

1655
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: yesterday ABC, Terrence Crawford went to IG and spilled his

1656
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: guts about it. I kind of want to pitch this

1657
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: to you. What he claims is that a hedge fund company,

1658
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: because those are reliable, contacted him and offered him twenty

1659
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: million each for him and Spence to fight. Spence and

1660
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: his advisor, Al Hayman weren't interested in the delia. I

1661
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: can imagine that they wouldn't be and then Crawford on

1662
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 1: IG says, he called Spence himself and said, hey, we

1663
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 1: can get twenty five million a piece guaranteed. When you're

1664
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: gonna do He's like, twenty five million, what about the

1665
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: back end. I'm like, listen, if they make they money back,

1666
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: then we're gonna get eighty twenty at simple math. And

1667
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: he goes on to say that I basically went to

1668
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: Spence and didn't hear back. What do you make of

1669
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: all the things that he said and what's your reaction

1670
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: to them?

1671
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 2: So it's still a lot of he said, he said, obviously,

1672
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 2: and that's been a big part of this. You've had

1673
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: Bud and his team largely talking to my coppinger of ESPN,

1674
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 2: and then he'd get on with Kellerman and they'd give

1675
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 2: that side of the story. The rest of us in

1676
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 2: the media have largely heard, sort of through channels, the

1677
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 2: PBC and by extension, Showtime side of the story, which

1678
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: painted a different picture. At the end of the day, Luke,

1679
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 2: this is the part of boxing that sucks when, like

1680
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 2: right now, you don't have the type of obstacle that's

1681
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 2: normally preventing the great fights from happening when networks don't

1682
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 2: want to deal with each other or promoters. You don't

1683
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: really have that here. Bud's a free agent. But it

1684
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 2: was good to hear his side of the story. There

1685
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: was an interesting sort of moment in there when he

1686
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 2: said that in this day age of people stealing fights,

1687
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 2: he said, him and Spence both revealed and agreed that

1688
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 2: they both have fire sticks, Luke, so they steal fights

1689
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: regularly anyway. So the reason why I made that joke

1690
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: was to basically say, he's claiming, Bud Crawford, that the

1691
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: deal that he's been presented with from PBC and Hayman

1692
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 2: doesn't guarantee anything up front, which is would be weird

1693
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: for a big time fight, right, don't you don't We

1694
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 2: always hear when Floyd would fight somebody, the you know,

1695
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: a Nevada State Athletic Commission revealed that you know, Floyd

1696
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 2: to be guaranteed let's say forty million, and then his

1697
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 2: opponent be guaranteed five or eight or whatever, and then

1698
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 2: they both get a certain percentage from the pay per

1699
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 2: view on what they negotiated afterwards. So again it's more

1700
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 2: he said, he said, are you going to believe in

1701
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 2: Crawford saying that there was no upfront guarantee and everything

1702
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 2: was going to be on the back end, and you

1703
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 2: know he wants to see all the receipts to see

1704
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 2: where all the money's going. Are you gonna believe what

1705
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 2: we hear through the channels of PBC and Spence that

1706
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 2: you know, Crawford at various times ghosted the negotiation. Pro

1707
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 2: says right when it looked like things were ready to

1708
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 2: go and team Spence had given in to the certain

1709
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 2: demands by Crawford. Either way, Luke, it's a sad, ongoing

1710
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 2: soap opera of really you know, separate from Tyson Fury

1711
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 2: fighting for all four heavyweight titles against you know, Usik

1712
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: or Joshua or whatever however that you know ends up

1713
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 2: playing out looks like Usik Fury. Now, this is the

1714
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 2: biggest fight of this era, without question. I mean, this

1715
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 2: is it. This is two on beaten fighters, generational talents

1716
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 2: in the sports sexy welterweight pay per view division. And

1717
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 2: there's nothing promotionally or network wise seemingly holding this up

1718
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 2: to talk specifically on what Crawford saying, you know, he

1719
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: tried to bring in an outside suitor. I mean I

1720
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 2: could understand why Al Hayman, who had been building toward

1721
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 2: this fight for a long time and has his networks

1722
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 2: in place and all that, you know, wouldn't necessarily want

1723
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 2: to go in that direction. What was also interesting was

1724
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 2: Bud went on a Floyd like rant, the same rant

1725
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 2: Floyd used to give at Manny, saying, you know, I

1726
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 2: don't have a boss. You have a boss, and Spence,

1727
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 2: you can't come with me and do this fight elsewhere

1728
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 2: because you have a boss. Well, yeah, Spence's you know,

1729
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 2: under contract and signed with you know, with the PBC

1730
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 2: side of things. And Floyd used to say the same

1731
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 2: thing about Manny. You know, we could have done this

1732
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 2: fight already, but you're with Bob Barram and he's your boss.

1733
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 2: The whole point of this in my rant here Luke

1734
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: to put out some of the facts is Spence, you

1735
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 2: know Crawford in this case might be right on some

1736
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 2: of these things. The only way we'd know is if

1737
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 2: they showed us the contracts, and if Spence and Crawford

1738
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 2: had a public debate back and forth sharing the facts.

1739
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 2: But people don't want to see them in a fucking

1740
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 2: public debate. They want to see them in a fight.

1741
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 2: All right, So the true nature of Crawford's message here

1742
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 2: at the end was he said he's heard that you know,

1743
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 2: we know he's gonna fight David Aveneston on December tenth,

1744
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 2: and BLK Prime is putting all this money out there.

1745
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: They just paid a tonload to Adrian Browner him.

1746
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: No one knows anything about b LK Prime and yet

1747
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 1: they've got tens of million dollars to give away. Boy

1748
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 1: that doesn't have red flags all fucking over? It does it?

1749
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 3: You know?

1750
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 2: And it does. In Crawford's rant, basically said, you know,

1751
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 2: I heard that Spence is going to fight Thurman instead,

1752
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 2: So if we both win, I'm still interested in doing

1753
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 2: this fight next.

1754
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: No, I don't believe I do. I'm telling you, if

1755
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 1: he fights, well, if he actually gets paid what he

1756
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 1: says he's going to get paid, which, by the way,

1757
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical, but if he does, he.

1758
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: Goes, Yeah, who's fronting ten million to bud to fight

1759
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 2: David Avenisan on an independent pay per view? Please show meat?

1760
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 1: Like this all just seems total bullshit to me. At

1761
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: least we're partly bullshit. Like it's hard to know exactly

1762
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 1: what's what because we have limited information I got to

1763
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: tell you, I don't think he fights Spence. I'm gonna

1764
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: put I'm gonna you know, I would love to be wrong.

1765
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: I would love to be wrong. I don't think he

1766
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: wants it that badly, and I don't think he's going

1767
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: to do it. I think we lost that one.

1768
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: You know, there's some people that say, oh, you guys

1769
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 2: are too close to showtime, you're not fully showing Crawford's

1770
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 2: side of the story. Well, we only have what's been

1771
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: showed or told. Now we have more from Crawford. The

1772
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 2: whole point is this, could they conceivably both win, you know,

1773
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: Crawford in December, maybe Errol in January February, if that's

1774
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 2: when they're going to do his next opportunity, And could

1775
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 2: they still fight each other next year, you know, next

1776
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 2: summer summer. Well, yeah, in theory it could be. But

1777
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 2: how much your reparable damage are we continuing by going

1778
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 2: down this road. At the end of the day, no

1779
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 2: one really knows who's right. Maybe we sided with Spence

1780
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 2: based on things we heard, but nobody really knows who's right.

1781
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 2: But the public doesn't give a damn who's right. The

1782
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,839
Speaker 2: public wants to see the fight there's a lot of interest.

1783
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: Bud doesn't have a promoter or whomever get in the

1784
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 2: way here, make the damn fight, because Luke, you know,

1785
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 2: both could lose, or maybe we could get to a

1786
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 2: point where it's like maybe the pacyav survived an unnecessary

1787
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: five and a half year build largely because of the

1788
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 2: star power of both and the fact that both used

1789
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 2: every fight they took in the interim to kind of

1790
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 2: like promote as this is the final step before we

1791
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,799
Speaker 2: finally make that fight. But again, you had two completely

1792
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,759
Speaker 2: different fan bases. Were clearly the two best in the world.

1793
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 2: They were two of the most popular fighters we'd ever seen.

1794
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 2: Spenc and Crawford are great, but I don't know if

1795
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 2: they have that same type of footprint to demand to

1796
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 2: ultimately demand this type of bill, and neither one is

1797
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 2: demanding in theory, Hey, let's keep pushing this off, but

1798
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 2: by not just sitting down in the same room everyone

1799
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 2: involved and just figuring out a way to get it done,

1800
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 2: just like by the way Bob Aram and Don King,

1801
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 2: noted haters of each other, used to do when it

1802
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 2: came time to make the big fights back in the day,

1803
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 2: Just like Spencing and I'm sorry, just like paqi Al

1804
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 2: and Mayweather finally did when former CBS lead Les Moonvez

1805
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 2: got that waiter involved. We all know that story from

1806
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, and we finally got that fight. The difference,

1807
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 2: in my opinion, was that fight was even bigger and

1808
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 2: the build, which was a gamble. Let's not forget that

1809
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 2: Pacchia actually lost twice in that interim, one by upset

1810
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 2: to Bradley, one by getting knocked the hell out by Marquez,

1811
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 2: yet still came back around. They were still number one

1812
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 2: and two pound for pound. They still made the fight.

1813
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 2: Was it after market in the end, Yes, it didn't

1814
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 2: affect the financials though it's the biggest thing we've ever seen.

1815
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 2: I don't think this fight, these two matchups, these two brands,

1816
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 2: has that same luxury. Yeah, I've got the same fear

1817
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 2: you do, Luke that for whatever reason, number one being

1818
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 2: that they don't seem to get along on the business

1819
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 2: side of things. I got fears whether this does happen

1820
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 2: or if it does happen next year. But it's gonna

1821
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 2: be thirty six Spence eight young either. We're really heading

1822
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 2: toward another Mayweather Packyas situation. Only again, these guys are

1823
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 2: not that same exact level where it's gonna demand two

1824
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 2: point whatever million buys. It's not.

1825
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 1: It's just not.

1826
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 2: So this is disappointing. I'm glad Bud went public and

1827
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 2: we finally got some level of transparency to the process,

1828
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 2: but it's still a lot of he said, he said, Luke,

1829
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 2: which is par for the course for boxing. But at

1830
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's bullshit if you want

1831
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 2: this event to actually really mean something, because all you're

1832
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 2: gonna do is turn away the fans who are going

1833
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 2: to look at bull sides identify them as greedy without

1834
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 2: really knowing the full facts. And there we are. And

1835
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 2: you know, it's and to see Bud come out and

1836
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: be like, well, everyone's stealing pay per views everywhere anyway

1837
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 2: except for including both of us. So who cares anyway?

1838
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 2: We want this guaranteed money. Well, you know are now

1839
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: we're showing now you know what happened to Kfabe Luke.

1840
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 2: Now we're showing all the cards.

1841
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 3: Right.

1842
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, it's disappointing.

1843
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: It'll be I say. I'll say this from from my

1844
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: vantage point. I mean, I don't think it's wrong for

1845
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: the audience to be skeptical of some of the things

1846
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: we say about this fight given our affiliations, although I

1847
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,560
Speaker 1: would caution them that, like, the amount of information that

1848
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 1: we get from showtime about this is close to zero,

1849
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: so we're kind of floundering in the dark here as well.

1850
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: But that's fine. I don't really mind that. Like, get

1851
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: what you think is the best source of information and

1852
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: use it, but what I would submit to you is

1853
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: just sort of rationally. Look at this, Bud had a

1854
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: fraught relationship with Bob Aaron basically the entire time to

1855
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: the point where he was done with Emmy sued him, right,

1856
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: so that's either ongoing or whatever the hell happened with that.

1857
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to enter in disagreement, and during the

1858
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: course of the negotiations leaves it to go take a

1859
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: fight with it with a fly by night operation that

1860
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: is proclaiming to have that vast amounts of money and

1861
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: we know nothing about them, which seems ultra sketchy. It's

1862
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 1: not to say that I think he's scared of Spence

1863
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 1: or whatever, but his commitment to like driving toward the fight,

1864
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 1: I think you can very much call into question, right,

1865
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: who was the party during the middle of negotiation, they

1866
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 1: decided to leave it and take another fight by a

1867
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: flyby n out operation, And the same person has had

1868
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: a fraught relationship with any amount of control that a

1869
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 1: promoter could exercise. What could be better if you're Bud

1870
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: Crawford than someone not really knowing anything about how to

1871
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 1: control you, but willing to offer you tons of money.

1872
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: It seems like a perfect scenario, which is why I

1873
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: think he took it. In the end, it is prize fighting,

1874
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 1: get the biggest prize you can. But while I am certain,

1875
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: while I am certain that there is probably plenty of

1876
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: blame to go onto either side of the equation here,

1877
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: one party was the one that left him in another

1878
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: fight one and I think that speaks volumes in the end.

1879
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 2: Well, one thing that you have to say that's true,

1880
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 2: it's facts. Bud's acting like he has more leverage than

1881
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 2: he actually does, Like I don't. At the end of

1882
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 2: the day, like Budd said, everybody's just mad. I'm trying

1883
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 2: to get a bag. If it's all about the bag,

1884
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 2: then go fight an he's seen and let's never make

1885
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 2: this this Spence fight. But at the end of the day,

1886
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 2: Bud doesn't have a track record as a pay per

1887
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: view brand. Every time he's done that with Top Rank,

1888
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 2: who consistently seemed to overpay him to keep him there

1889
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 2: and keep him happy so that he wouldn't jump ship

1890
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 2: and go get the career defining fights that are available

1891
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 2: to him at the PBC. Luckily, he ended up getting

1892
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: Sean Porter because everybody worked together there at the end,

1893
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 2: which is rare. But Bud, I don't think he has

1894
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Speaker 2: the leverage in this case in the history as a draw,

1895
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Speaker 2: despite his greatness and his unbeaten record, to make some

1896
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Speaker 2: of these level of demands. Look, I don't want Budd

1897
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 2: to get railroad at the negotiation table, so he's got

1898
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 2: to do what he has to do. But remember when

1899
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 2: we wanted to see Joshua versus Wilder and we got

1900
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 2: frustrated that didn't happen when both were on beaten And

1901
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,639
Speaker 2: you know, there was that time that the Zone suddenly

1902
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 2: offers Deontay Wilder one hundred million to leave his set

1903
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 2: up and come over here and guarantee two fights against Joshua.

1904
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 2: If al Hayman is not going to go in on

1905
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 2: that because he already had his own set up with

1906
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 2: his own networks and everything, why is he gonna go

1907
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 2: by a fly by Night organization. Say go ahead, Eryl,

1908
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 2: go fight on Black Prime for you know, whatever amount

1909
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 2: of money and check.

1910
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Speaker 1: Who is gonna do? Like, who's good? See if the checks?

1911
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Speaker 1: If they gave him ten million, how many buys is

1912
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Speaker 1: Bud's next fight gonna do? Yeah, like fifty thousand, maybe

1913
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand the best case. And they're gonna lose

1914
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Speaker 1: their ass on this.

1915
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Speaker 2: So Bud doesn't have the same leverage that, to be fair,

1916
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Speaker 2: both of Pacquiao and Mayweather had, Although there were different

1917
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 2: circumstances why that fight was delayed so long. There was

1918
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 2: a drug testing, there was was Floyd waiting in the mouth.

1919
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that went into that. But

1920
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 2: those are two different individuals than these two. You got

1921
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 2: the chance to become the Mayweather of Pacio of your

1922
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 2: era by winning the biggest fights in the ring. Look,

1923
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Speaker 2: I don't want Bud to not get, you know, up

1924
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Speaker 2: front guarantee. I don't know the situation here, but I

1925
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 2: don't think he has the same leverage. He's the free

1926
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 2: agent coming to them. He's suing his old promoter who

1927
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 2: let him go for for racism and stuff. But he

1928
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 2: also wasn't a and I'm not saying that. If that's true,

1929
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 2: that's you know, despicable, but as their proof that, I

1930
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, I mean, Bud was also consistently

1931
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 2: not a draw. He doesn't like to do media. Everything

1932
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: you heard, he wasn't, you know, easy to deal with.

1933
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 2: He's also going to be thirty six soon.

1934
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: So I'm telling you d BC, it's not gonna happen.

1935
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen.

1936
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 2: I mean, look, look seriously, Spence's Spence really has a

1937
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 2: small window here in his mid thirties to be able

1938
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 2: to make one forty seven anymore. It's a process, just

1939
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 2: just like it is, just like al Joe said for him, right,

1940
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 2: it's a process. He's gonna be a one fifty four

1941
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 2: before we know it. That's that's the truth of the matter.

1942
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: And that's that's disappointing. But that's where we're at. There's

1943
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 2: there should have been nothing that got in the way

1944
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 2: of this happening. Uh Is there some fall on the

1945
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 2: PBC Spence slide? I don't know. Crawford says there is,

1946
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 2: But good lord, what can we just blow up be

1947
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 2: LK Prime and David avenees in for December tenth and

1948
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 2: just make this fight for January or February or whatever.

1949
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 2: I mean, what the hell are we doing here? And

1950
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 2: that's to everybody, Luke, that's that's a message to everybody here.

1951
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Speaker 1: Really at the end of the day, With that in mind, BC,

1952
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, my people may have derived there

1958
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Speaker 2: a long time ago. But here's the deal about this project, Luke.

1959
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1960
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1961
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1969
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1970
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Speaker 2: own your piece a lot today, Own that shit.

1971
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Speaker 1: Cool perks are you could have, for example, officially changed

1972
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Speaker 1: the prefix of your name to Lord or Lady BC.

1973
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1974
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1976
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1977
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1978
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1980
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1981
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Speaker 2: we can build our little Morning Combat Kingdom Luke all

1982
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1983
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1990
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1993
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Speaker 2: percent off. Look, I would love to buy a piece

1994
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Speaker 2: of land and just declare myself because I've been adopted

1995
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Speaker 2: by the Welsh, you know, close enough to Scotland as

1996
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Speaker 2: the Duke of something. I'm the Duke of something, Luke.

1997
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Speaker 1: It's gonna happen, all right, the Duke of Dukie. There,

1998
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Speaker 1: he is there, he is there.

1999
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 2: It is all right, Luke. Every once in a while

2000
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Speaker 2: on the show we fill time in between segments here

2001
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 2: and today we're gonna bring back an oldie buck goody.

2002
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Speaker 2: This one's called over under Wah wanta wanh wah wah

2003
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 2: wah bomb bomb all right, Luke. A little bit of

2004
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 2: news here. Michael Chandler has re signed with the UFC

2005
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 2: a new deal, an eight fight deal. He talked to

2006
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 2: MMA on point and he said, when I came to

2007
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 2: the UFC, I said I wasn't here for a long time.

2008
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 2: I was here for a good time, as we all know. Well,

2009
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 2: it turns out I just signed another eight fight deal.

2010
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 2: We'll see how long I'll be here, Luke. Chandler is

2011
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 2: thirty six. He joined the UFC in twenty twenty one,

2012
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 2: after really being the face of Belatour alongside the Great Pitpull.

2013
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 2: He had three fights that year. He is scheduled now

2014
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 2: fighting dustin Porier next week, to have two fights this

2015
01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 2: calendar year, so over under eight the number of fights

2016
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 2: Michael Chandler will have left with the UFC at age

2017
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 2: thirty six.

2018
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: So he signs an eight fight deal and the number

2019
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 1: is eight. Am I going to take the over or

2020
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 1: the under? I'm gonna take the under. I don't think

2021
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 1: he's got eight more fights in him total, much less

2022
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 1: with the UFC, because of course they could release him

2023
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm gonna say. Total, he's going to have

2024
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 1: five more. I think even that's pushing it. Eight. He

2025
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 1: will not see this contract was designed for him to

2026
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: retire on I think, yeah, I'd agree with you.

2027
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he's here for a good time, and when

2028
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 2: you are like that, you're going to be in some wars.

2029
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:38,520
Speaker 2: You're gonna make some fireworks.

2030
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that was it was fun

2031
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 1: if you see I was funny. I spoke to be

2032
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 1: Neil Drush. You can see the interview here on YouTube

2033
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 1: dot com slash Morning Combat, and I actually asked him like,

2034
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: who do you like in the Chandler Poarrier fight? And

2035
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 1: he was like, well, in many ways they're kind of

2036
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: similar in terms of how they approach offense. But he

2037
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: was like, Dude, I think Chandler's just so focused on

2038
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 1: being exciting and being entertaining that it's a little hard

2039
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 1: to predict him with accuracy because is he fighting up

2040
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: to his actual ability or is he fighting up to

2041
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:05,719
Speaker 1: his excitability. It's a fair point, it's not a bad point. Actually,

2042
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 1: we don't really know. He's obviously very skilled, very talented,

2043
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:10,560
Speaker 1: but it makes like, what's he going to do in

2044
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:12,679
Speaker 1: this fight? If I know, you know, it's a little

2045
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: bit hard to say.

2046
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. It's gonna be

2047
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 2: And hey, dude, next week's gonna be awesome, right.

2048
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be really good.

2049
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna be on the ground and NYC got a

2050
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 2: lot of special surprises and bonuses for you. Hey, look,

2051
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 2: I liked Jake Paul week in the end, you know,

2052
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 2: even though Phoenix took a big bite out of me, Luke,

2053
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure I'll ever be the same because

2054
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 2: you know how washed I am on the road. But

2055
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 2: next week, if you said, Look, Jake Paul was fun,

2056
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 2: but I want my UFC and I want it now.

2057
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 2: MK is gonna bang you next week.

2058
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're gonna bang you right in the face.

2059
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, Let's go to our next one. Hey,

2060
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 2: Chris Cyborg, the great Bellator champion, all time great. She

2061
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 2: talked with Henry Sahudo about this idea of what she

2062
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 2: really wants, which is to slide over to the box

2063
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 2: and take on Katie Taylor. You're undersputed lightweight champion, she said,

2064
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 2: everything you do, you want to be the best at

2065
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 2: what you do. I may start saying no early boxing,

2066
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 2: but if I have an opportunity to fight for the belt,

2067
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 2: like Katie Taylor who called me out yesterday, she had

2068
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 2: her fight, she won, congratulations. She said, if the fans

2069
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 2: want to watch this fight, if you want to watch it,

2070
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be willing to do it. Said Katie, I

2071
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 2: feel wonderful having my name there. So then Cyborg said,

2072
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 2: I know I did a lot of things for MMA,

2073
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 2: but for me, boxing is a dream. I'm gonna work

2074
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 2: real hard. For sure. It's not going to be easy,

2075
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 2: but I'm going to do my best. Luke, while we

2076
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 2: recognize the ambition of the aging legend. Here of the

2077
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 2: great Chris Cyborg. Taylor's last five boxing fights, she was

2078
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 2: a minus six thousand favorite against Carba Hall, minus won

2079
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 2: twenty five against Serrano, minus twenty five hundred against Sharapova,

2080
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 2: minus ten thousand against Han, and minus seven hundred against

2081
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 2: Jonas Natasha Jonas Luke minus fifteen hundred over under the

2082
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 2: betting line that Katie Taylor would be favored in a

2083
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 2: boxing match against Chris Cyborg.

2084
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take well, I'm not sure what to say here.

2085
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 2: If she was minus six thousand against Carba Hall, that's

2086
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 2: sixty to one. Luca gets another human being with a

2087
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 2: with a with a pulse.

2088
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the over here. I think she'd

2089
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 1: be favored by more. That's right, right, I'll be taking

2090
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 1: the over in this case. It it'd be more of

2091
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 1: a favorite, not less. Yes, I saw Chris Cyborg fight

2092
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 1: Youurina Bars, which was kickboxing, it was not boxing, But

2093
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 1: I watched that one live and Youurina Bars went to

2094
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: work on her. It was not close. Now, you give

2095
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 1: credit to Cyborg for fighting someone that good and for

2096
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 1: surviving tough moments. I think she would do like I do.

2097
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:43,480
Speaker 1: I think she would perform ably and make a respectable

2098
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 1: account of herself given such a tough matchup. I do,

2099
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: I do think that, But I think in the end

2100
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 1: she would get handily beaten and Katie Taylor would be

2101
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: a massive, massive favorite. Maybe not six thousand, but well

2102
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 1: over fifteen hundred.

2103
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I want to give Cyborg her due,

2104
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 2: and she did the right thing by taking a setup

2105
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 2: fight to you know, show that she can do it.

2106
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,799
Speaker 1: But Cyborg's talented, and of all the female MMA fighters,

2107
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 1: you could see her having the best chance or one

2108
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 1: of the better chances anyway. So you know, I respect

2109
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 1: Cyborg a lot. She was there at the Jake Paul

2110
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 1: and Anderson Silver fight week and or the fight night anyway,

2111
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 1: and she's a great ambassador for the sport. I really

2112
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: like her. But you know, that's a fucking It's like

2113
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 1: the uphill of the most uphill of uphill climbs. Yeah,

2114
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 1: she'd be massively, massively.

2115
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 2: Okay, It's not the same as Jake Paul saying he

2116
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 2: wants to fight Canelo, But is it the same as

2117
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 2: Usmann saying he wants to fight Canelo? To some degree,

2118
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, cool, but.

2119
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 1: It's well, Cyborg's a little bit older, so that's not

2120
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 1: quite the same, but it's roughly equivalent.

2121
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,560
Speaker 2: Now, if you're Katie Taylor, who we just read the

2122
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 2: quotes that she sounded interested, Does Katie Taylor jump at

2123
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 2: this just for the spectacle and global global acclaim for this, Luke,

2124
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 2: just for the the commercial credibility of this?

2125
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: Well, I gotta say BC if BLK prime comes to her,

2126
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 1: I mean who could say no? Right, that's who could

2127
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 1: say no?

2128
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 2: That is very true?

2129
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep uz work thirty seven and then

2130
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 1: I think Kamaru is what like thirty five or four

2131
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 1: or something like that.

2132
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, Katie Taylor's thirty six, but it's

2133
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 2: not the age that's in question here.

2134
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:17,759
Speaker 1: Definitely.

2135
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Mike Perry one of my favorite combat

2136
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:22,640
Speaker 2: sports athletes loke. You may remember he went one in

2137
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 2: four to end his UFC deal before being released. He's

2138
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 2: now gone three and oh since then, in a variety

2139
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 2: of Triller and BKFC cards and du boy do I

2140
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 2: hope he doesn't enter the slap Dick League, but we'll

2141
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 2: see what happens. He did talk to the Schmo shout

2142
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 2: out the Shmo about his fighting future. He said, Man,

2143
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what do I want? I can't lie.

2144
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I just keep thinking about the days when

2145
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 2: I forget the days of the old matchmaker, back in

2146
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 2: the days when Rampage, Vonderlay and Vitor Belfort train traveled

2147
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 2: and fought all over the world. They were back and forth.

2148
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 2: The UFC has that big show, So I would like

2149
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 2: to get the money I'm getting now, but over there

2150
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 2: in the big show. Yeah, good luck with that, Mike,

2151
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 2: and I'll put on a big show like I always have.

2152
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:02,719
Speaker 2: I know the fans have been talking about put Perry

2153
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 2: back in the UFC. A lot of them hate, like

2154
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 2: you're not there anymore. I mean, you ask what do

2155
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 2: I want, and I'm being honest. I want to be

2156
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 2: on the biggest platform there is in the fight game. Well, looke,

2157
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 2: that would be the UFC. So over under one the

2158
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 2: number of remaining fights Mike Perry will have inside the

2159
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 2: famed octagon.

2160
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 1: Okay, so before you handto counting the previous one, because

2161
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: he's already got a bunch right.

2162
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 2: Obviously obviously, or what are we doing here? Bro? I

2163
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 2: gotta ask you quickly? Was he cut or was he

2164
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 2: released mutually? What is there is? Does that play into this?

2165
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 1: And you think he was released mutually? I believe that's okay.

2166
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 2: Is there any scenario on which the UFC brings him back?

2167
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there is. I think there is. I

2168
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't call it the likeliest scenario, but he still has

2169
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 1: an He's done really well since he left UFC. As

2170
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 1: you indicated, he's got to fight friendly style for the

2171
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 1: most part. He's a wild card. There's he's certainly a

2172
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 1: wild card. There's not many guys who once they leave

2173
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 1: the UFC where I'm like, especially when they had, like,

2174
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, a record that was kind of up and

2175
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 1: down that I think could get back in. He is

2176
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 1: one of them. He's one of them. I would say, Wow, yeah,

2177
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll take the over on this as well.

2178
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 1: I'll take the over. It's a risky it's a risky over.

2179
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 1: It's a risky one, but he's got the potential for it.

2180
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,759
Speaker 2: I think, Well, let's see how old is this gentleman.

2181
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,560
Speaker 2: He Luke is thirty one, So okay, that's better. I

2182
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 2: was thinking he was like thirty five. Yeah. I mean

2183
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 2: he's been through the wars, but you know, Ocean might

2184
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 2: need new shoes. Luke, So this is where we're at.

2185
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 2: One day.

2186
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 1: My daughter's growing like a weed. I get it. I

2187
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 1: hear you.

2188
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 2: I just had to buy my son's suits for this wedding.

2189
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm going no way, that's cool.

2190
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna wear once, right, they're gonna wear these ones probably.

2191
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's I mean one of they like in

2192
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 1: their teens. Like, yeah, you'll never see him word it again.

2193
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, great investment. All right, let's keep that going here,

2194
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 2: Luke on this shout out to, by the way, our

2195
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 2: great producer Mikey Mormle for setting us up this week.

2196
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 2: Let's go to GSP. We're all talking about Willy come back,

2197
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 2: won't he? He talked to him a fighting about that

2198
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 2: this Weeken at the Jake Paul fight. He said, I'm

2199
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 2: already out of my UFC contract. I'm out. I couldn't

2200
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 2: be here today working with Showtime if I was under

2201
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 2: a UFC contract. It might piss off the UFC that

2202
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 2: I'm here at the Jake Paul fight. But I did

2203
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 2: it because, like I said, I have the freedom now

2204
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 2: to do whatever I want, with whomever I want, whenever

2205
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 2: I want. If I wanted to box, never say never.

2206
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 2: If it's for a good cause, Well, who organized it?

2207
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 2: I could box, I could grapple, who knows. But my

2208
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 2: days of trying to prove I'm the strongest man in

2209
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 2: the world, it's gone. Blah blah blah. He's got other priorities. Okay, Luke,

2210
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 2: we heard some very PC answers. He gave it to

2211
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 2: us post way in when we interviewed him about his future.

2212
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 2: One half over under the number of professional Combat Sports

2213
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 2: events GSP will compete in outside of the USC moving forward.

2214
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the over. I'm gonna take it.

2215
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 2: But does grappling count here? Does like a d c

2216
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 2: C or high rollers count here?

2217
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 1: Luke, Well, he wouldn't make it to ADCC unless he

2218
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 1: got an invite or won the trials, which I don't

2219
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 1: think in either case they're going to do. And even

2220
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: then he would get whooped. He wouldn't do very well

2221
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 1: because there's like the I mean, maybe had the trials

2222
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:25,719
Speaker 1: if he won that, but he wouldn't win the trials,

2223
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:31,560
Speaker 1: like he's not he's not good enough for that. I

2224
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 1: think he's gonna box. I definitely think he's gonna box.

2225
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 1: And I think he's gonna have maybe a couple of them,

2226
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 1: maybe just one, because you know, he did the one

2227
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 1: thing when he came back against miss Beingland was gone again.

2228
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 1: He did tell us he was like, oh I don't

2229
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 1: miss the nerves and everything else. But I tend to

2230
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 1: think there's two. He's just I know he would stay

2231
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: in shape no matter what. But I often feel like

2232
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 1: he's feathering a nest for something. I think he's waiting for,

2233
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 1: like just the right moment to swoop in, catch up,

2234
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, a big paycheck, and then be on his way.

2235
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 1: So I think I'll take the over on this.

2236
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 2: Interesting would you would karate combat be in play? Isn't

2237
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 2: he related to them somehow?

2238
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 1: He does a broadcast, he does broadcasting stuff for them,

2239
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 1: and of course he has a background in shota kan karate.

2240
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 1: But I don't like, can they afford him? Like the

2241
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 1: whole point is that he would be like a big star.

2242
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 1: Boxing is where these guys want to go because it's

2243
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 1: just where the biggest money is.

2244
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 2: I mean, look, he got a first hand look, as

2245
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 2: did Anderson of the treatment you can get in a

2246
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 2: you know, showtime pay per view against Jake Paul. I'm

2247
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 2: not saying I want to see GSP versus Jake Paul.

2248
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 2: But is there a matchup? Maybe it's that one Luke

2249
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,640
Speaker 2: GSP's kind of small. Maybe it's that one. Though at

2250
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 2: the end of the day, is there a different matchup

2251
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 2: in your mind? Is it him against Anderson boxing?

2252
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 1: Mean, what is it again? We've been over this. I

2253
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 1: don't I don't, I don't know. He needs a natural

2254
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 1: rival and right now there isn't one, and so for

2255
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,639
Speaker 1: that reason, I think he's kind of like looking around,

2256
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 1: but he's not gonna let the year fifty come and

2257
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 1: go without him being in there one more time. It's

2258
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 1: just I don't buy it.

2259
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:06,599
Speaker 2: Nathan Diez, Yeah.

2260
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 1: Okay, but like yes is the answer. Yes, But like, dude,

2261
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:13,639
Speaker 1: if you didn't have anything for him, granted it was MMA,

2262
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, maybe maybe maybe entertain me.

2263
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 2: For twenty five seconds about Jake Paul's future. Everyone else

2264
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:20,640
Speaker 2: can put their fingers in their ears. We forgot to

2265
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 2: mention talking about potential larger opponents because he's growing out

2266
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 2: of these aging welterweights. I kind of like Ryan Batter,

2267
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 2: I know you're a shit on that, but everyone goes dude,

2268
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 2: TRT belfour is boxing Rockman Junior coming up? What about

2269
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 2: Jake Paul against TRT Belfort. Luke, come on, you got

2270
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 2: there's that. The twenty thirteen version of you has to

2271
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 2: love this idea.

2272
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 1: Let's see how he looks against Rockman Jr. Let's see

2273
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 1: how he looks. Let's see how he looks.

2274
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, thank you, Let's keep it going here, all right, Luke?

2275
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 2: Uh hey, you know about this guy Hamza Jemaiah Well,

2276
01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 2: Robert Whittaker was on Submission Radio. I love those guys

2277
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 2: down under, and he was saying, look, stylistically, fight wise,

2278
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 2: I think Hamzad is a terrible fight for Colby. Terrible

2279
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 2: because you saw that Usman from Usman that anyone Colby

2280
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 2: can't just relentless. He spam takedowns on. It becomes a

2281
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 2: kickboxing and striking match. And I think Covington's great at

2282
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:17,240
Speaker 2: what he does, but he's not a kickboxer. He's not

2283
01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 2: a striker by trade. That doesn't come naturally to him.

2284
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 2: His pressure of style and wrestling style is what comes

2285
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 2: naturally to him, and Hamza can counter wrestle Colby. He's

2286
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 2: a big dude from long range. Blah blah blah. Hamza's

2287
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 2: a bad matchup for Colby. So look with that in

2288
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 2: mind from the the the damn Knuckles guy, the what's

2289
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 2: what's the wker's real nickname? The Reaper?

2290
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 1: Now what is it? Um? Well, they call him Bobby Knuckles.

2291
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 1: That's the best.

2292
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he does not like that.

2293
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:46,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think reaper. I think Reaper.

2294
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 2: All right, we'll reap this Luke minus two hundred over

2295
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 2: and under the number that Hamza Chamaiev will close that

2296
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 2: as a potential betting favorite in this proposed Colby Covington idea, ooh.

2297
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 1: Ooh, I'm gonna take the under. I'm gonna take the under.

2298
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 1: I don't think he finishes. Now, whether or not the

2299
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: fighter is close, whether or not he goes in there

2300
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:15,560
Speaker 1: and beats the shit out of him. You know, a

2301
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 1: different question. You're asking where the odds going to close?

2302
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 1: I tend to think the odds might close a little closer.

2303
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:24,719
Speaker 1: I mean, not that my two hundreds some massive favorite.

2304
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 1: But I tend to think you're gonna close sub under,

2305
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 1: you know, around the one fifty one eighty ish kind

2306
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 1: of mark four high rot.

2307
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 2: But you're off on this, You're I think you're off

2308
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:37,680
Speaker 2: on this. With respect, I think that, you know, I mean, look,

2309
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 2: he went in there after the ridiculousness of the way

2310
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 2: cut and knee. He absolutely does what he does, which

2311
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 2: is dominate and finish. Luke, I think Robert Whitaker's got

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01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 2: a point here on what Colby can do. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Colby can you know he box five hard rounds are

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Speaker 2: that first fight with uh with Usman before getting stopped.

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01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 2: But Hamza does seem to be a bigger, different animal

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01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 2: in this regard. I think he'd be a minus three

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Speaker 2: twenty five favorite.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, okay, I'm not like the best with odds. I'm

2319
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 1: not a big gambling guy, so you would probably know better.

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Speaker 1: But that would be crazy.

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01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 2: I just I just spilled bullshit into this microphone. All right,

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01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 2: we got one more for you, Luke. The over under

2323
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 2: in this case is five. I want you to answer

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01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 2: it after you watch this video. But the five the

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01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 2: over under is the number of minutes Luke Thomas would

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01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:31,560
Speaker 2: last in a room with these two individuals. Let's go

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Speaker 2: to the videotape.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the liver King. Don't forget that. I'm coming

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01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, I'm the liver King. Don't forget that

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Speaker 1: I'm coming for you.

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Speaker 6: Luke.

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Speaker 1: That's the coolest thing. That's the coolest thing Hostible has

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01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:55,639
Speaker 1: ever done. I gotta tell you, I'm now team Husbula.

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01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:57,840
Speaker 1: That was fucking awesome, Luke.

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01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 2: Imagine you Hasbula and King in a car ride of

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01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 2: at least six hours. How many minutes would you last

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Speaker 2: over Under?

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01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 1: On five ten? I'll take the over, but that's about it.

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01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 1: I could tolerate it for about ten minutes and then I'm.

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01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:12,720
Speaker 2: Dude, if you were driving has Bula would be like

2341
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 2: scratching your eyeballs out like a raccoon.

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01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 1: He'd be all over you, Luke, and Liver King would

2343
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:19,680
Speaker 1: just be shouting into the fucking steering wheel with dead

2344
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 1: animals on his head, no shirt of complete jackass. Yeah,

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01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't last very long. I wouldn't last very long,

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01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 1: although I got to say, shouta, has Bulla. That was

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01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:28,599
Speaker 1: fucking hilarious.

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01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,559
Speaker 2: That was pretty good. Thank you. That's You're over under

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01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 2: this time around. Hope you enjoyed it, Luke. Speaking of

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01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:35,679
Speaker 2: Holy Hammer though.

2351
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 1: Luke right, holy fucking Hammer.

2352
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:44,040
Speaker 2: Well, holy Hammer is the hashtag of the future, and

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01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 2: the people have been tagging us with it, Luke. When

2354
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 2: they see a big time knockout on the undercards or

2355
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 2: open the main card, and they say there's a fighter

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01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 2: coming on. I mean, we see you and we hear you, Luke.

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01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 1: So that's right. This month, we are working with our

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01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 1: favorite show sponsor, money Line, the only money app you'll

2359
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 1: ever need, on a brand new segment BC. They love

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01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 1: the combat sports community as much as we do, so

2361
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 1: we've decided to collaborate and create a new segment called

2362
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 1: the Money Lion Hammer of the Month BC. The Hammer

2363
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:17,559
Speaker 1: of the Month can be a boxer or MMA fighter

2364
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 1: on the rise. It's not getting the recognition they deserve,

2365
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 1: so BC, we plan to highlight our nominees on the

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01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 1: show and pick one winner at the end of every

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01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 1: month to reward it with an epic hammer trophy that

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01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 1: they can show off to their friends and family. What

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01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 1: do the folks need to know about it? How can

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01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 1: they get involved?

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01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 3: Well?

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01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 2: Are you hoping that the hammer looks somewhat fallic at all?

2373
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 1: Am I hoping that it looks fallic?

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01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 3: No?

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01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't say that. I am hoping that it looks fair.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Well, Luke, here's the deal. When you're watching

2377
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 2: fights over the weekend, and by the way, boxing, MMA, BKFCLA,

2378
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 2: combat sports is what we're talking about here. Let us

2379
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 2: know which fighters deserve this award the most. So what

2380
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 2: do you want to do is hop on your go

2381
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 2: to social media platform and tell us who you think

2382
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 2: should be nominated for the Hammer of the Month by

2383
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:06,719
Speaker 2: us by tagging at money Lion or at money Lion,

2384
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 2: I n c on ig at money Line on Twitter,

2385
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 2: at Moneyline Inc. On Instagram and use that hashtag that

2386
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 2: is catching on like an STD on your freshman college

2387
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:19,559
Speaker 2: dorm floor. Hammer of the Month.

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01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 1: To learn more of visit moneylion dot com slash Morning Coombat. Again,

2389
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 1: that's Moneylion dot com slash Morning Combat.

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01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 2: All right, Sometimes you're the hammer, Luke, and sometimes you're

2391
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 2: the nail. Sometimes you're the Hammer of the Month from

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01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 2: money Line. All right, we closed this week with a

2393
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 2: fantastic segment. Every Wednesday. Morningcombat at gmail dot com is

2394
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 2: the email address that you send in your artwork, your

2395
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 2: tight T shirt picks, your bad cable management, and sometimes

2396
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 2: your hot wives. Yeah I saw that. This one's called

2397
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 2: fan submissions.

2398
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 1: You've got mail fusures.

2399
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 2: Whose voice is that? Whose voice is that?

2400
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 1: It's Gaff.

2401
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 2: Gaphney jim My Man. All right, let's start with Luke.

2402
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 2: Remember salowul. Remember I thought Little Anthony was Saoul at

2403
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 2: that time at the live show. What a donk?

2404
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: I am, right, just a little racist, that's all.

2405
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 2: Here's the real Sawool. Okay, he says, it's the most

2406
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,640
Speaker 2: wonderful time of the year. It's Halloween. This is my

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01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 2: first time as an adult handing out candy. And since

2408
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:27,839
Speaker 2: I value my property and don't want it vandalized, instead

2409
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 2: of printing out Roy Rogers coupon's, I went out and

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01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 2: got the best assortment of treats and even Pokemon cards.

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01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 2: Hey guys, it's mk all day, nearly every day, Luke,

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01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 2: your thoughts on Saoul's backyard and really his build? Has

2413
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 2: he seen the gym lately?

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01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 1: How's first? Of all, the selection of treats is nice.

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01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 1: Go back to the other picture real quick. Yeah, get

2416
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 1: my man a rake? How about that.

2417
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,240
Speaker 2: Look? I you know what, I mow the leaves up

2418
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 2: like an absolute lazy dirtbag and it works great, dude.

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01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 1: I'd be honest. I have leaves all over my yard too.

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01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 1: This is actually his best Luke Thomas impression, just letting

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01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 1: the leaves sit there. And all my neighbors have like

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01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 1: green thumbs and they spend all their weekends working on

2423
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 1: the yards. I'm always like, let that ship rot, It'll go.

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01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 2: All right. So Will's got a couple more photos here,

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01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 2: let's judge his candy selections. Can we go full screen

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01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 2: on this where we got here?

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01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 1: All right? So he's got the Starburst and the Snickers,

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01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of Three Musketeers in the middle. Three

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01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 1: Musketeers is for absolute heathens, and he's got the Swedish dude.

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01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 1: Three Musketeers is for peasants. I mean, let's just be honest.

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01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 2: Milk and three Musketeers are classics. So the coke and

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01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:34,959
Speaker 2: pepsi of classic candy.

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01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 1: It's dog it's dog. I mean, I don't realize that

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01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 1: chocolate is bad for dogs, but it's dog food. It really,

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01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: be honest with it. And then on the right the

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01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 1: Pokemon shit. I've never had to see. Pokemon was not

2437
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 1: my generation, so I don't really know much about it.

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01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's lame, Luke. Do we have anime fans here?

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01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, it's you know, yeah, I'm not

2441
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 1: the biggest anime guy or Pokemon whatever the fuck that is.

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01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:56,680
Speaker 1: But the rest of it looks pretty good. Although I

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01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:59,560
Speaker 1: got to say. I gotta say, for my house, you

2444
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:01,640
Speaker 1: have to have an enormous amount of candy. This is

2445
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,839
Speaker 1: a fucking good neighborhood for Halloween kids everywhere.

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01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 2: Now, first of all, Saoul's got a beautiful lady in

2447
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:08,600
Speaker 2: front of him, so shout out to him. But is

2448
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:10,679
Speaker 2: that his real hair or is that like a Halloween wig?

2449
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 2: Does he have a weave going on here?

2450
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 1: I think he's got a really bad wig.

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01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 2: Okay, well done there. Sowell got a really.

2452
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 1: Great shirt that you can get at Morningcombat Dot store.

2453
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 2: I do know that, indeed, one of our best fans,

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01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:25,240
Speaker 2: even if I think little Anthony looks like by the way,

2455
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 2: shout to Anthony and his lady. Remember they're trying to uh,

2456
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 2: they're trying to consummate for Morning Combat. I think that

2457
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 2: was what they were saying.

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01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 1: Luke, I don't think they said that, but that'd be cool.

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01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, think of us. Well, no, please don't. All right,

2460
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:40,559
Speaker 2: let's go to Ryan. He says, Hey, Luke and BC

2461
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:43,839
Speaker 2: appreciate the show and your passion for selling merch despite

2462
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:46,559
Speaker 2: not getting a cut of the sales. Hope your contracts

2463
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 2: aren't as restrictive as the UFC's.

2464
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, showtime cut us in on that deal. Huh,

2465
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 1: cut us in on that deal.

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01:50:57,840 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 2: Ww F in the eighties. Don't get any cut of

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01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 2: this quid blow up? What is this? What is this saying?

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01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 1: Basically, what they're saying is we're like, you know, uh.

2469
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 2: Oh, they're comparing this to the Rock Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2470
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 1: But we're not into any contractors. We're employees, so we

2471
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 1: actually have a little bit more say over our careers

2472
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 1: and also also healthcare. But yeah, I gotta tell you

2473
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:19,640
Speaker 1: would love to get some of that some of that

2474
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:21,720
Speaker 1: merch money, but we don't, so you know, let it

2475
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 1: be known.

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01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first pick says, here there are some new

2477
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:28,479
Speaker 2: factory ton items, and the bottom pick says, we don't

2478
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 2: pocket any of the money, but it's good for the show.

2479
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 1: So there you go.

2480
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 2: It's got the terrace McKinney tweet about not getting paid

2481
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 2: to wear the Rock shoes. Look, did you know Aaron bronsaid,

2482
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:38,560
Speaker 2: are great guy, right, friend of the show, part of

2483
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 2: the family. He said he has only ever watched Hysts

2484
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 2: through the audio pod, and he says he loves to

2485
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 2: imagine what we're talking about. And have you seen this

2486
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 2: shit while listening? Is that like some weird voyeur shit

2487
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 2: or do you respect it?

2488
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 1: I mean that's when you love Vinyl too much. We

2489
01:51:57,560 --> 01:51:59,879
Speaker 1: are just like I don't even need to see things anymore.

2490
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 1: I just hear them and you're like, well you don't.

2491
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 2: Hey, get off his back. He was a successful high

2492
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 2: school athlete. Luke, that's Ab my guy right there. Okay,

2493
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 2: Canada's own. That's the He's my favorite Canadian journalist not

2494
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 2: named mor Rnalo. Okay, thank you, Ab. Let's go over

2495
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 2: to Eric, he says, EO lt NBC two to eighty

2496
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 2: was such an epic UFC event. My buddy flew from

2497
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 2: Hong Kong down to fuck It Thailand to watch it

2498
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 2: with me. We're not day one, donks, but it's been

2499
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:31,879
Speaker 2: MK every day since about episode twenty. To mark the occasion,

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01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 2: I ordered r J Dunkel Nuggets MK merch one month

2501
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:38,560
Speaker 2: ahead of the event. Thanks to the ten dollars International

2502
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 2: flat rate aka the slow boat to China shipping, the

2503
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 2: merch arrived a day before the event.

2504
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 1: No worries.

2505
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 2: We brought the merch out on a long tail boat

2506
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:48,639
Speaker 2: ride and had a good laugh at ourselves for being

2507
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 2: such sad, psychophantic fans, submitting little bitches and a fun

2508
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:57,320
Speaker 2: little fact for MMA Media's version of Chichen Chong. Thailand

2509
01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:00,639
Speaker 2: recently legalized cannabis and the country's going through a wonderful

2510
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 2: green revolution right now. Coming over to Bangkok in January

2511
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:08,919
Speaker 2: to cover one championship stamp Fair Techs versus Anissa Mexin

2512
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:11,719
Speaker 2: at the legendary Lumpini Stadium.

2513
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 1: You can wake up him is a cathedral in the

2514
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 1: art of Muay Thai.

2515
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 2: He says, you can wake up and choose violence, or

2516
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:23,799
Speaker 2: choose a hooker, or choose the art inducing sativa gummies,

2517
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 2: all in the same day. Keep up the good work,

2518
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 2: you washed pieces of shit. Well, Luke, look a little

2519
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 2: who is zoom in on these guys? Let's check this out.

2520
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 2: Are these guys best friends, Luke?

2521
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 1: They're just jan sixers on the run as far as

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01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm well.

2523
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 2: The guy in the right has some striations going on.

2524
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 2: There is that what you call them with the veins

2525
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 2: popping out? This guy's seen a gym a few times.

2526
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 1: Vascularity, Yeah, a lot of guys just skinny fat.

2527
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:49,599
Speaker 3: Well.

2528
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:52,760
Speaker 2: I love the passion of these two, But Luke, legalizing

2529
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 2: cannabis in that area is probably smart, but they should decriminalize.

2530
01:53:57,200 --> 01:53:58,759
Speaker 2: They should criminalize some other things.

2531
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:00,120
Speaker 1: Right, what.

2532
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:01,880
Speaker 2: Sex?

2533
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 1: They should criminalize that sex for pay? No, they should

2534
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,560
Speaker 1: not criminalize that. They should definitely let that ship just

2535
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 1: flow in the breeze.

2536
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 2: Stop supporting the sex trade, Luke Thomas, all right, thank

2537
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:20,080
Speaker 2: you very much, Eric, thank you so much. Nice shorts

2538
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 2: there by the way on the left. Eric, Okay, let's

2539
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 2: go to Alan w He made a nice meme.

2540
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:29,280
Speaker 1: For us, Luke. Remember how we were like seeing the

2541
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:31,599
Speaker 1: praises of so I married an axe murderer?

2542
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, great movie. Great.

2543
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 1: Well, I gotta say, you look like Bob Ross.

2544
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 2: I do I do look like Luis Payneah, you're right,

2545
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 2: You're right.

2546
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 1: A little bit. No, no, no, not violent Bob Ross.

2547
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 1: Bob Ross.

2548
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 2: No, I get the joke, Luke, I do I look

2549
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 2: like both? Right?

2550
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 1: There to be fair though, but uh oh the tears,

2551
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 1: I love the tears. Those are great.

2552
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:53,600
Speaker 2: What a great movie, what a great comedic classic. All right,

2553
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 2: let's go over to Kevin. He says after listening to

2554
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 2: episode three sixty six this Wednesday. I made a couple

2555
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 2: of memes about how I feel the show go after

2556
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 2: it wins awards. So there's the progression, Luke, we vote

2557
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 2: for MK to win awards. MK wins the awards, the

2558
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 2: show becomes ninety percent reads not false, and the show

2559
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 2: becomes reads again.

2560
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, well, hey, what can we say. We

2561
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 1: gotta pay bills fuckers, Like I know, you know, you

2562
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 1: got used to it when we were living on the cheap,

2563
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:24,520
Speaker 1: but now it's like Twitter, you got to pay eight

2564
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:25,760
Speaker 1: bucks a month for that ship.

2565
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:28,480
Speaker 2: Well look at wow, that's ridiculous. If we go on

2566
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 2: the road and do big ship, Luke, somebody's got to

2567
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 2: pay for it, right.

2568
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 1: It ain't free, it sure economics one oh one. No

2569
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 1: such thing as a free lunch.

2570
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:40,400
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke. We've got David Appleton coming in next, you

2571
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:45,040
Speaker 2: know that guy? Right? Oh, sorry, keviv First, first, let's

2572
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:48,960
Speaker 2: hear from Kevin one more time. Oh that is they do?

2573
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 1: This meme is classic, im Marus, fucking classic. Yeah, they do.

2574
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:56,920
Speaker 1: What can we can we say they're wrong? I mean,

2575
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:57,560
Speaker 1: we really can't.

2576
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 2: No, we can't. We can't. We're trying to win in

2577
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 2: business and in life and on the show. Okay, So

2578
01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:06,440
Speaker 2: I mean, look, we do give these people two hours. Okay,

2579
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 2: so if like, you know, eight minutes combined of those

2580
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:12,360
Speaker 2: two hours or adreads still.

2581
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:15,120
Speaker 1: Free, right, Hey, you see Ashley connecting to the zoom call.

2582
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:17,360
Speaker 2: Thanks ash appreciate that.

2583
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 1: Gad you're here.

2584
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 2: David Appleton is here, Luke. You know him as a

2585
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 2: fantastic French school teacher who also abuses his students. He says, Hi, guys,

2586
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 2: you've been bigging up my rivals for Dunk of the

2587
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:31,320
Speaker 2: Year recently, so time to put them back in their place.

2588
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:34,200
Speaker 2: Given all the awards recently, I wanted to take see

2589
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 2: if I could take the MK challenge and spot the

2590
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 2: eighties and nineties reference and try to match you guys

2591
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 2: at what you do best. So here goes picture number one.

2592
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 2: Lt doesn't even pretend to listen to BC on air

2593
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:48,640
Speaker 2: and looks at as much stuff on my computer as possible. Challenge.

2594
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 2: It's easy to emulate. We all know what's on Luke's screens.

2595
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 2: Is this an accurate representation, Luke, of your many screens

2596
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 2: that we saw on DOC seven?

2597
01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:59,640
Speaker 1: I can just tell you I don't look at women

2598
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 1: like that on Google Images. Let me just be very

2599
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 1: clear about that. That is not the site that I

2600
01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 1: would go to for that kind of thing.

2601
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:08,080
Speaker 2: You go to onlyman dot com or only pipes. Yeah,

2602
01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 2: there you go, all right, and very well done, David.

2603
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 2: A Picture two, he says, is the BC painting challenge.

2604
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 2: I just took a Father's Day drawing my daughter did

2605
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 2: when she was four years old. It's easily better than

2606
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 2: PC's tortured, frustrated old guy art. I mean, come on, Appleton,

2607
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 2: you serious right now?

2608
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 1: I gotta say, that's about how I see your art

2609
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 1: When you put it up there, It's like a third

2610
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 1: grader you got to put their shit on the fridge.

2611
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:32,560
Speaker 2: Look. That is my body's way of emoting in ways

2612
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 2: that words won't cover. You know what I mean. It's

2613
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 2: like the only way I can really communicate my feelings

2614
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 2: with well.

2615
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 1: Considering you talk NonStop, it's weird that you would also

2616
01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 1: need to emote in addition to that.

2617
01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:45,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the talk is all bullshit, right. The painting

2618
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 2: is the true art that comes out of me. Number three,

2619
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 2: David says, is the LT put everyone else down because

2620
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 2: I'm better than them challenge. I tried to incorporate various

2621
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 2: aspects of his donkmentary performances. Cheers, everybody. I hope the

2622
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 2: debate is now over. Yours with love. The artist formerly

2623
01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 2: known as French Harvey Bill Jeffrey.

2624
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:10,840
Speaker 3: Let's see, come on, BC, could you back straight?

2625
01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:23,280
Speaker 6: Sucking the bulls? The bulls bulls? I read books, bulls, Luke.

2626
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 2: That joke was so abstract and ridiculous that I got

2627
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 2: it respected. Okay, I mean this is this is wow?

2628
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:31,879
Speaker 2: Uh Luke, they are producers.

2629
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 1: Suck my balls. I read books. There's never been a

2630
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:39,040
Speaker 1: more accurate assessment of who I am as a person

2631
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 1: other than suck my balls. I read books.

2632
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah while while lifting. Yeah, there you go. I'm told

2633
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:46,760
Speaker 2: here that David A also sent in a pick of

2634
01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:50,879
Speaker 2: his feet and tried to start a BC Ugliest Feet challenge,

2635
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 2: but Mikey refuses to show it and have that become

2636
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 2: a thing.

2637
01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 1: Wow, Oh, Micky, why didn't you show that? You should

2638
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 1: have seen. I wanted to see his fungus.

2639
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 2: How about that editorial can roll from Mikey. Normally he's

2640
01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 2: keeping dogs off of our screen so we don't get canceled.

2641
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:04,200
Speaker 2: Dug right.

2642
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he will canceled. I think he's just

2643
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 1: being to He's he's censoring.

2644
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 2: Appy Appy is on fire of late. Thank you so much,

2645
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:17,560
Speaker 2: David Appleton. Let's go to Alan w He says, Jason

2646
01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 2: takes Manhattan, Loma takes Manhattan. Luke takes a bottle movement.

2647
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 2: It's a reach, It's a reach.

2648
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, first of all, this is

2649
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 1: well made. It's well made. Second of all, I go

2650
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 1: into those Malca studios with the hope that I could

2651
01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:43,760
Speaker 1: save an absolute fucking Tony Sira Gusa size dump so

2652
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 1: I can tryp maul that fucking commode. Yeah.

2653
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 2: Indeed, look, you know JP from uh Mount you Nike

2654
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:56,120
Speaker 2: Nova Scotia, right, not personally, but yes, this is the

2655
01:59:56,160 --> 02:00:00,680
Speaker 2: first submission from his wife, Dawn, the boss laid piquette.

2656
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:03,680
Speaker 2: She says, hello, MK, Dawn here, wife of super fan

2657
02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:07,080
Speaker 2: Jay from Mount Unike, with my first ever fan submission.

2658
02:00:07,600 --> 02:00:11,280
Speaker 2: With Sydney, Australia being behind us, my work travels continue,

2659
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,080
Speaker 2: so we thought it best to show off the merch

2660
02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:15,720
Speaker 2: as I go. I let Jay tag along to Miami

2661
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:18,400
Speaker 2: and Key West this past week, and big thanks to

2662
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:22,120
Speaker 2: Danny Segura for messaging us back with great restaurant and

2663
02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:25,440
Speaker 2: sightseeing recommendations. I sent Jay back home to work on

2664
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:28,080
Speaker 2: his own fan subs as I move on to Germany

2665
02:00:28,200 --> 02:00:31,440
Speaker 2: and Ireland this week. In our whole household, it's MK,

2666
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:35,560
Speaker 2: every damn day and day after day, love the show

2667
02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:38,680
Speaker 2: the Boss Lady. So Luke for context here, Dawn has

2668
02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:41,600
Speaker 2: this this incredible global it job where she's got to

2669
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:43,840
Speaker 2: fly over the all over the world and make sure

2670
02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:45,920
Speaker 2: everybody's not f and around. What do you think about

2671
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:48,040
Speaker 2: this world tour they just took with MK.

2672
02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:51,880
Speaker 1: Boy, they're given who are the people in the Winnebago

2673
02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:53,520
Speaker 1: Bill and Jen or.

2674
02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:55,160
Speaker 2: J Byllan Jen? Yeah, Bill and Jay.

2675
02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:56,480
Speaker 1: Well, they're giving them a run for their mind. I

2676
02:00:56,520 --> 02:00:57,840
Speaker 1: haven't seen them in a while. They're giving a run

2677
02:00:57,880 --> 02:01:00,160
Speaker 1: for their money. Dude. I gotta tell you A been

2678
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:01,920
Speaker 1: to that point. I've never been to Australia, but I've

2679
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:04,560
Speaker 1: been to that point there in Key West where they're

2680
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:07,440
Speaker 1: at that little statue. I think Cuba's like sixty miles

2681
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 1: or ninety miles in there, whatever it is. This is amazing.

2682
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:14,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, she's got hanover Germany, as you

2683
02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 1: indicated in Dublin, Ireland on deck. MK's going worldwide because

2684
02:01:18,640 --> 02:01:19,560
Speaker 1: of the MK fans.

2685
02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing and Don puts up with a lot from JP.

2686
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:24,800
Speaker 2: You have to believe that, Luke, because I think all

2687
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:27,200
Speaker 2: he does all day is make hilarious memes for MK.

2688
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:29,879
Speaker 1: So she's a tolerant one. But most of the females

2689
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:32,320
Speaker 1: in my life and yours are exactly the same.

2690
02:01:32,920 --> 02:01:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope they don't end up at fucking Thailand, Luke,

2691
02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. We don't want.

2692
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 1: That'd be all tragic.

2693
02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:41,360
Speaker 2: Who cat? I bet he would. No, I'm kid, I'm

2694
02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:43,840
Speaker 2: just kidding, Luke, I'm just kidding. Okay, thank you very much.

2695
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 2: Don We appreciate your interest in this ridiculous show. Let's

2696
02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:49,160
Speaker 2: go to Alan W again. How about how's this guy

2697
02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:52,920
Speaker 2: getting through three times in one show? MMA Broadcasting Royalty?

2698
02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:54,160
Speaker 2: It's mk gothic.

2699
02:01:55,200 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 1: Well, I gotta tell you, this vape thing has really

2700
02:01:57,320 --> 02:02:01,160
Speaker 1: just lowered my stock and every every aaginable kind of way.

2701
02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 1: And I have no one to blame. I have no

2702
02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:04,960
Speaker 1: one to blame. It really happen in the mirror.

2703
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:08,080
Speaker 2: Do we know, Allen W. Because he's coming on with this.

2704
02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:09,320
Speaker 2: This is brilliant.

2705
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:11,560
Speaker 1: Yes, this is amazing, dude.

2706
02:02:11,600 --> 02:02:13,800
Speaker 2: This is like webscream level. Should we should we frame

2707
02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:15,000
Speaker 2: this and put it up in the studio.

2708
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:18,360
Speaker 1: It's pretty great. It's it's it's it's it's iconic. This one,

2709
02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:19,840
Speaker 1: it's really truly iconic.

2710
02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:20,800
Speaker 3: Dude.

2711
02:02:20,840 --> 02:02:23,080
Speaker 2: Seriously, our donk of the year race is out of

2712
02:02:23,160 --> 02:02:25,040
Speaker 2: control right now, like it's not like the past.

2713
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:27,360
Speaker 1: Also, Home blowed up real quickly. They didn't quite get

2714
02:02:27,400 --> 02:02:30,720
Speaker 1: it right, but they got pretty close. They got BC's

2715
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:32,960
Speaker 1: face when he eats, it looks like he's bothered by

2716
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:34,960
Speaker 1: the smoke. But that's really just how he eats when

2717
02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 1: he closes one eye like Eggshan from Big Trouble in

2718
02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:38,680
Speaker 1: Little China.

2719
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a tick. Look, I got a tick,

2720
02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:45,600
Speaker 2: all right. It's what happens in life. All right. Look

2721
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:48,640
Speaker 2: we close with with A with another candidate for MVP

2722
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:51,880
Speaker 2: this year. It's JP himself. Okay, he says, good day crew.

2723
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:54,440
Speaker 2: In the aftermath of all things Jake versus Anderson, if

2724
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 2: we look back at the pregame preview, the artificial formation

2725
02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:01,360
Speaker 2: of the newer A team was revealed. Even the Donald

2726
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:04,200
Speaker 2: is all in the horse. What a great, super sloppy

2727
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:08,680
Speaker 2: sausage party, real sausage party. Like men do love you guys,

2728
02:03:08,760 --> 02:03:11,520
Speaker 2: keep up the amazing work. JP from Nova Scotia.

2729
02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:13,720
Speaker 1: First of all, not only are just like putting on

2730
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:16,160
Speaker 1: random vapes in my mouth, they're actually putting on the

2731
02:03:16,280 --> 02:03:19,320
Speaker 1: actual vape that I have, which is scary. It's that

2732
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 1: well known, and the other part is hold on, but

2733
02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:23,680
Speaker 1: blowed up one more time because I know who everyone

2734
02:03:23,800 --> 02:03:26,000
Speaker 1: is in this picture, Like left to right, it was

2735
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Speaker 1: all of us who did the pregame preview. Then in

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Speaker 1: the middle, of course, it's the same people with the Donald.

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Speaker 1: In the right, it's Jake Paul, his girlfriend and Anderson Silvas.

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Speaker 1: And then I think, I see it is that b

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Speaker 1: Kamana in there.

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Speaker 2: Yes, dude, this is such an inside joke deep cut.

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02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:46,800
Speaker 2: So what this is is I declared that you, Chuck

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02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:48,960
Speaker 2: and I are the new A Team, right, surpassing the

2743
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:52,919
Speaker 2: all time great MMA beat a team of Wagonheim Helwani,

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Speaker 2: You and Chuck, and then we do it with with

2745
02:03:56,080 --> 02:04:00,760
Speaker 2: Danny and Shaan Alshadi. So JP made us like the

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02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:03,440
Speaker 2: TV show of the A Team, and then he put

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Speaker 2: Brett and Yowana driving the A Team van.

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Speaker 1: This is brilliant, dude, This is like shockingly excellent. And

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Speaker 1: they got the quick Donald in there. That horse was

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Speaker 1: all over me.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: So my wife, who's who grew up riding horses, says

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02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:22,520
Speaker 2: that Donald's behavior meant that he liked you, that he's

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Speaker 2: a playful horse.

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Speaker 1: Oh is that right?

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02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what she says.

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02:04:26,200 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 1: Well, that bastard was nibbling on my chair. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck that's supposed to mean.

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02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:33,360
Speaker 2: She said it was him trying to get your attention

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02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:35,120
Speaker 2: to like have fun with you and play.

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Speaker 1: Oh is that okay? All right? Well, I don't know

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02:04:38,160 --> 02:04:40,760
Speaker 1: shit about horses, as you can as well tell God.

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02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:42,320
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you this vape thing. Man, I have

2764
02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:44,480
Speaker 1: really done a number on myself with this. I have

2765
02:04:44,640 --> 02:04:46,720
Speaker 1: no one to blame. I really have no one to blame.

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02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:47,440
Speaker 1: I'd love to blame.

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Speaker 2: How much energy drink you consumed on the road and

2768
02:04:51,160 --> 02:04:53,960
Speaker 2: like the shittiest, most low brow version of high end

2769
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:55,440
Speaker 2: energy drinks. It's so not true.

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Speaker 1: I drink the high brow versions of energy drinks.

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02:04:58,120 --> 02:05:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you drink unicor Horn, pink Bang energy.

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02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:05,400
Speaker 1: I only drink that when the staff doesn't listen to

2773
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:08,040
Speaker 1: think my very clear instructions, and that's what they get me.

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02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:11,040
Speaker 1: What I drink is rain, And anyone who knows energy

2775
02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:14,120
Speaker 1: drinks knows rain is your is your that's your go to,

2776
02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:16,680
Speaker 1: that's the that's the Apex predator of energy drinks.

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02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:19,760
Speaker 2: All right? All right, Well, thank you to JP and

2778
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:24,520
Speaker 2: our fantastic submissions this week. From everyone Appy included Morningcombat

2779
02:05:24,520 --> 02:05:27,360
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com is where you can jump in. Luke,

2780
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:29,680
Speaker 2: you would agree that this Donk of the Year race

2781
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:32,040
Speaker 2: is just it's I can't control it. I can't. I

2782
02:05:32,080 --> 02:05:33,800
Speaker 2: don't know who's winning right now. It's out of control.

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02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:39,320
Speaker 1: No, it's about as close a race as it's ever been.

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 2: Closer than these than the John Fetterman doctor oz uh

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Speaker 2: Pennsylvania race at the moment.

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Speaker 1: That's also close. That's also close, But that's all that

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Speaker 1: One's also sad, you know, because if you're Pennsylvania, you

2789
02:05:53,120 --> 02:05:55,920
Speaker 1: just got terrible set of choices basically.

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Speaker 2: You know, dude, did you we should rate John Fetterman's tats?

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Speaker 2: Did you see him on the inside out of his

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02:06:00,360 --> 02:06:02,360
Speaker 2: arm looky as the uh? I didn't see that he

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02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:05,480
Speaker 2: has the dates of all the deaths of people in

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02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:07,960
Speaker 2: the town that he was mayor of all the dates

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02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:10,959
Speaker 2: on his arm with like lines through them. It's it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bit much for me personally, But you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, if you told me he was the X

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02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:19,400
Speaker 2: basis of Cannibal Corpse, I would not be surprised.

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Speaker 1: No, because those guys all have long hair. He'd be

2800
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:29,880
Speaker 1: like he'd be like like the X bassist for I

2801
02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:33,320
Speaker 1: don't know, like some kind of metalcore band or some

2802
02:06:33,480 --> 02:06:34,760
Speaker 1: bullshit like you know.

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02:06:35,600 --> 02:06:38,320
Speaker 2: You know that really lame picture of you that floats

2804
02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:40,720
Speaker 2: around that was taken during the lowest moments of your

2805
02:06:40,760 --> 02:06:43,040
Speaker 2: life when you had the shaved head and the goatee. Yes,

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02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:45,640
Speaker 2: he does kind of look like that picture. Look, I'm

2807
02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:46,520
Speaker 2: just gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I wish I could say he didn't,

2809
02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:50,920
Speaker 1: but you know, all right, what can I do?

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02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:53,640
Speaker 2: Speaking of Bill and Jen, they did sell the RV

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02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:56,160
Speaker 2: and they are currently living in Pennsylvania. I'd love to

2812
02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:57,960
Speaker 2: know who they're voting for in this race. Okay are they?

2813
02:06:58,000 --> 02:06:58,800
Speaker 2: Are they team Memet?

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02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:01,720
Speaker 1: Are the Fan? Then they're voting Republican. I mean, we

2815
02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:03,200
Speaker 1: just sort of know the answer to this, don't we.

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Speaker 2: Bill, Let's get a wellness check on Bill and Jenn.

2817
02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:07,800
Speaker 2: If you're listening, please check in with us. But Luke,

2818
02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:10,760
Speaker 2: that's our lengthy, blown, overblown show for the day, and

2819
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:13,680
Speaker 2: it's it's it's a joy to host this vehicle. I

2820
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:16,360
Speaker 2: know it's you know, it's not always perfect. Okay, it's

2821
02:07:16,400 --> 02:07:21,480
Speaker 2: not always fun, sloppy as shit, but this is my life.

2822
02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:23,440
Speaker 2: This is the spirit I bring to the show. Look,

2823
02:07:23,480 --> 02:07:24,200
Speaker 2: this is my passion.

2824
02:07:24,280 --> 02:07:25,760
Speaker 1: Okay, tip to tips.

2825
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:30,800
Speaker 2: This community of absolute weirdos that you would never trust

2826
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:32,840
Speaker 2: in a room alone with your child, but you love

2827
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:33,760
Speaker 2: them just the same.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I think I agree with that people. I

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Speaker 1: would I think I.

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Speaker 2: Trust down the Boss Lady with my kids though she

2831
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:41,400
Speaker 2: seems like a recutable human.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Also, Piquette's wife, what's her name again, Jay Pakhet's wife.

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02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dawn, the boss Lady. Look, that's a classic MK

2834
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:49,400
Speaker 2: moment right there. You're like, you know, it's just not

2835
02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:50,080
Speaker 2: listening to me.

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Speaker 1: It's great. I didn't know her name, Fuck face, I

2837
02:07:52,440 --> 02:07:54,120
Speaker 1: didn't know her name. I didn't know her name. I

2838
02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 1: heard where you said, I heard what you said. All right.

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Speaker 1: One to remind folks, we're going to be on Friday.

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02:07:58,920 --> 02:08:00,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a special guest on Friday to help

2841
02:08:00,920 --> 02:08:02,200
Speaker 1: us at the beginning of the show. That should be

2842
02:08:02,200 --> 02:08:04,880
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Saturday, you can catch us six

2843
02:08:05,040 --> 02:08:06,880
Speaker 1: thirty pm in the East on the prelims on the

2844
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:10,080
Speaker 1: show to showtime excuse me YouTube channel. We'll be having

2845
02:08:10,160 --> 02:08:12,840
Speaker 1: some commentary for the fights. There are the prelim fights

2846
02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:15,680
Speaker 1: and yeah. So you can also go to Showtime dot

2847
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Speaker 1: com get a thirty day free trial. If you'd like it,

2848
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Speaker 1: you can keep it. If not, you can bounce. You

2849
02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:21,360
Speaker 1: see all that gear that BC's wearing, you can go

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Speaker 1: buy it Morningcombat dot store. We got a ten percent

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Speaker 1: get ten percent off of whatever you purchase on the store.

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Speaker 1: BC already gave you the email. Any final thoughts, Bce,

2854
02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:34,160
Speaker 1: any final thoughts.

2855
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Speaker 2: The same people that make our great merch also make

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Speaker 2: the All the Smoke merch another great Showtime digital vehicles.

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Speaker 2: We're always supporting them. Luke, so shout out to that

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Speaker 2: love you some stack and Matt Barnes he did play

2859
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:46,760
Speaker 2: the basketball. Big fan of that guy. All right, but

2860
02:08:46,880 --> 02:08:47,920
Speaker 2: thank you guys for everything.

2861
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:56,800
Speaker 1: Very funny. Yeah, just like ending the show on seven

2862
02:08:57,040 --> 02:09:00,280
Speaker 1: lt digs? Is that what we're doing? Just all the nineknives?

2863
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, just all the knives. All right, that's it. I'm done.

2864
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:05,360
Speaker 2: I can't do this anymore.

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02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:09,600
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So for Malka, for Showtime, for CBS Sports,

2866
02:09:09,640 --> 02:09:12,120
Speaker 1: for Brian Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas. Thanks to everyone who watched.

2867
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:15,080
Speaker 1: We'll catch you again on Friday. And on Saturday you

2868
02:09:15,120 --> 02:09:17,560
Speaker 1: can follow us there on social We appreciate you guys

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02:09:17,640 --> 02:09:20,480
Speaker 1: tuning in and until next time, may all of your

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Speaker 1: gains be loyal