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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast, and it's Week seven.

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Speaker 1: Mitchell chaos in the NFL. Who's the contender, who's the pretender?

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Speaker 1: You really don't know. But what I do know is

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Speaker 1: New York the Giants might have found him one.

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Speaker 2: I think the Giants did found them one of Jackson

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Speaker 2: dart Man. Holy cow, what a game for the New

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Speaker 2: York Giants, unfortunately for them. Talk about blunders, Richard. They

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Speaker 2: give up thirty three points in the fourth quarter, and

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Speaker 2: I know you as a defensive back. Let's before we

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Speaker 2: get to this game, let's talk about a specific play

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Speaker 2: because it comes down to the wire. The Giants are

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Speaker 2: trailing and they throw a deep ball up on the

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Speaker 2: right side. Ridley Moskets flagged at the one yard line

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Speaker 2: with PI on a back shoulder fade. I guess if

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Speaker 2: you want to call it that a ball that was

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Speaker 2: thrown underneath the receiver and the refs bail them out.

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Speaker 2: I know you did not like that call, and ultimately

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Speaker 2: I think karma, you know, awarded the Broncos with a

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Speaker 2: big time victory. Richard, your thoughts on that play and

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was an incredible game. I mean early long

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Speaker 1: you thought, hey, the Giants, it looks like their day.

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Speaker 1: You know, it couldn't go better for them. But Jackson

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Speaker 1: Dart had some some real, real great passes, got got

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Speaker 1: some things, didn't use his legs, a ton got a

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Speaker 1: little banged up. THEO Johnson catches catches a tip pass

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Speaker 1: from Wandale Robinson, and you think, oh my god, this

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Speaker 1: is the Giants day. Then Denver wakes up in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Thirty three points in the fourth were all

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Speaker 1: the way back and win this game. But the play

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Speaker 1: you're talking about was the penultimate drive of the game.

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Speaker 1: And Riley Moss, I don't you know, I hate to

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Speaker 1: be cliche, but I don't think he could have played

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Speaker 1: that any better.

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Speaker 3: You're playing through the receiver.

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Speaker 1: Look look back for the ball, swipe through the receiver,

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Speaker 1: and it's incomplete.

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Speaker 3: It looks like a no play.

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Speaker 1: Like, hey, I've seen I've seen worse things happening and

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Speaker 1: not be called. But these underthrown pis are the death

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Speaker 1: of me, Like they're gonna be the death of this

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Speaker 1: game because it's it's detrimental to the game because you

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Speaker 1: only you were rewarding the offense for bad play. You're

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Speaker 1: rewarding offense. It's hard enough play to make. I want

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Speaker 1: to I challenge anybody to go outside and have somebody

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Speaker 1: run a route and then have somebody underthrow it, and

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Speaker 1: I want to see you either stop them from catching

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Speaker 1: it or defended without without ping them, and then you

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Speaker 1: will finally understand how hard it is to play defensive

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Speaker 1: back in this league. And for Riley Moss to look

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Speaker 1: back through in that critical situation and for them to

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Speaker 1: throw the flag, I oh, I don't think it's good

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Speaker 1: for the game, man. I don't think it's good for

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Speaker 1: the game. But you know what, football has a way

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Speaker 1: of even in itself out and figuring it out.

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Speaker 3: And the Broncos came back.

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Speaker 1: Bownicks played a really good game in the second half,

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Speaker 1: especially fourth quarter. I would say, yep, he threw two TVs.

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Speaker 1: He threw the ball fifty times, two seventy nine, two touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: They started to hand the ball to JK. Dobbins a

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Speaker 1: little bit more. He ended up with fourteen carriages for

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Speaker 1: eighty one yards, and the defense showed up. They got

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Speaker 1: a critical interception in that fourth quarter, a big time

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Speaker 1: interception deep in Giants territory, which which ended up being

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Speaker 1: incredibly helpful to their comeback effort. They had four sacks

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Speaker 1: in the game, obviously coming in with the lead sack

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Speaker 1: getter Nick Benito, one of the best corners in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League, if not the best corner reigning Defensive

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year Patrick Surtain.

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Speaker 3: And even with all that they they had, it had to.

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Speaker 1: Come down to the wire, but they were ever able

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Speaker 1: to make enough plays down a stretch to win this game.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's championship grit. That's a playoff team. That's

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Speaker 1: good coaching, that's good execution, and that's a great learning

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Speaker 1: for this team. You know, I know this defense is

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Speaker 1: probably gonna be kicking themselves looking at missed opportunities giving

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Speaker 1: up thirty two points in a game. But you'll take

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Speaker 1: learning lessons in a win, no question about There's no.

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Speaker 2: Doubt about it. And especially with the Kansas Kansas City

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Speaker 2: Chiefs looking like their old self at four and three, now,

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Speaker 2: these Buccaneers need to I'm sorry, these Broncos need to

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Speaker 2: keep up with them. Five and two. Now, this is

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Speaker 2: a huge win, and this was a win they should

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Speaker 2: have had looking at the schedule. But I tell you what,

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Speaker 2: Richard the New York Giants. There's something brewing in New

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Speaker 2: York right now. I mean, albeit with the loss, what

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Speaker 2: they have with Jackson Dart and Cam Scataboo. I mean,

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Speaker 2: as a New York Giant fan, you've got to be

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Speaker 2: looking at this team and saying, hey, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if we're going to make the playoffs anyway. So maybe

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Speaker 2: it's not the worst thing that we take a loss today.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it helps us in the long run. But you

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Speaker 2: got to look at this team and say, wow, Okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe they are onto something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you definitely do. And in the grand scheme of things,

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Speaker 1: this was a lost season for the Giants anyway. You're

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Speaker 1: not expected to win the world. You're not expected. But

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Speaker 1: I think one thing is it is true, is is

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Speaker 1: Day Bowl shouldn't be going anywhere this year. I think

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Speaker 1: they can continued. They're going to continue to draft. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a high draft pick. Unfortunately, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they have the team to necessarily compete, but to compete

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Speaker 1: this year, not only for the AFC West, but for

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Speaker 1: potentially the Super Bowl, especially with that defense for them

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Speaker 1: to come out and play the way they did, to

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Speaker 1: hang in there to really dominate for a majority of

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Speaker 1: this game. Jackson Dart seems to be the answer in

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Speaker 1: New York. Obviously, he struggled a little bit late when

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Speaker 1: he got banged up, but he still had three touchdown

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Speaker 1: passes he ran one in. That's four touchdowns in the game.

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Speaker 1: Scatter Bolt sixteen carries for sixty yards. Tyrone Tracy came back,

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Speaker 1: But Brian Burns got banged up. Obviously there's some issues

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Speaker 1: late in the game. But again, this is without Malik Neighbors,

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Speaker 1: this is without Slayton, this is without your go to guys.

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Speaker 1: So you have to take take, take some, take some solids,

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Speaker 1: and knowing that you did this with Dan Daniel Bellager,

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Speaker 1: him to draft likely offensive lineman in this draft. High

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Speaker 1: then defensively you would expect more pressure. But give give

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Speaker 1: Dinver Broncos a lot of credit. They they played well

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Speaker 1: the Giants. Next game, they got the Eagles again, who

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Speaker 1: they just beat on Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: We had them the Giant.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles coming off a really good win where their

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Speaker 1: offense looked really special. They're wide receivers. Both of them

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Speaker 1: had over one hundred yards in the game. Uh Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurtsch threw for over three hundred in the game, and

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: Can they can they match the energy they had against

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Speaker 1: him a couple of weeks ago. We'll see the Broncos

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Speaker 1: have the Cowboys, who looked like an entirely different team

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Speaker 1: than they had in a pass against the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 1: They played well defensively, had a pick six. Dron Bland's

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Speaker 1: do it. Obviously to Washington Commanders were without their top

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Speaker 1: three pass catchers, but still they and obviously Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 1: got banged up in this game. But Dak Prescott looks

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Speaker 1: really really good, Mitchell, I.

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Speaker 2: Had no question about it. You want to know who

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Speaker 2: else looks really, really really good? Is Inanianapolis Colts. I

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Speaker 2: mean this team. To me, if you wanted somebody to

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Speaker 2: prove that they're worth this championship contender category, it was

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Speaker 2: Inananapolis Colts. And now they're six to one. They go

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Speaker 2: on the road to the LA Chargers and they take

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Speaker 2: care of business. I mean they dominated this game. Richard,

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Speaker 2: your boy Indiana Jones, Daniel Jones putting on another clinic

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Speaker 2: and then his running mate, mister Taylor. I mean Jonathan

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Speaker 2: Taylor with three touchdowns. Holy, he's got to be firmly

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Speaker 2: in that MVP combo. I would assume that's so tough

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Speaker 2: to break as a running back. But Richard, the Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: Colts win by fourteen points, thirty eight to twenty four

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Speaker 2: in this division race with the Broncos and with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the Indianapolis Colts right now?

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Speaker 1: I think they may be the best team in the AFC,

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Speaker 1: and I know I'm gonna get some flak for that

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Speaker 1: because of the Buffalo Bills. But the Buffalo Bills have

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Speaker 1: shown some chinks in the armor, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen those same chinks from the Indianapolis Coats. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they've lost the game, but even in the game they lost,

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Speaker 1: I thought they could have won that game. If Ada

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Speaker 1: nine Mitchell doesn't drop the ball over the goal line,

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't have that holding call on Jonathan Taylor's

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Speaker 1: La ramsal A rams So again. Indiana Jones a guy,

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Speaker 1: and they just look like a great team. They're complete,

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Speaker 1: they can do it on the ground. Jonathan Taylor looks

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Speaker 1: like an MVP candidate. Ten rushing touchdowns on the season,

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Speaker 1: one receiving touchdown, eleven total touchdowns, and sixteen carries for

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Speaker 1: a lot of the TV runs looked identical. You look

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Speaker 1: the second one or the third one? I'm not sure,

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Speaker 1: but Daniel Jones could be an MVP candidate. They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna give MVP to a running back, unfortunately. Y'all can

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Speaker 1: argue with somebody else if they weren't gonna If they

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Speaker 1: didn't give it to Saquan last year, and they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna give it to CMC the year before, they're not

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Speaker 1: giving it to running backs. I think they should change

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Speaker 1: that they can give the MVP fairly and stop saying

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Speaker 1: it's just a quarterback award, because that's what they're making

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Speaker 1: it right down. No matter what a running back does,

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Speaker 1: they're not giving him the award, no matter how valuable

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Speaker 1: they are to their team. But defensively, they played a

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Speaker 1: pregame from the game before, they looked incredible. They had

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Speaker 1: three sacks in the game, two interceptions, They got kennymore

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Speaker 1: Chargers offensive line has been absolutely decimated with injuries, losing

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Speaker 1: Joe aut and Rashaun Slater. Not many teams can can

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Speaker 1: overcome the loss of those two kind of caliber tackles

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Speaker 1: right and left tackle, that's a tough loss. But to

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Speaker 1: players and to lose them for the season the way

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Speaker 1: they did, it's a tough pill to swallow. But Keenan

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Speaker 1: Allen had a good game eleven catches for one hundred

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievably impressive. Richard. Let's talk about the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: So they've shown Andy Reid has shown, Spags has shown

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Speaker 1: But that's a rough game, especially a division rival, to

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Speaker 1: Put Max Crosby. Could you imagine Mix Crosby on the

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Speaker 2: I couldn't even imagine, Richard. I mean, fortunately for you,

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Speaker 2: could you imagine being in Max Crosby situation right now,

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Speaker 1: No, I couldn't. I couldn't because I would ask for out.

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Speaker 3: Of the year.

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Speaker 2: No question, I'm in shoot. I became a believer again

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Speaker 2: Richard, let's talk about the Philadelphia Eagles. They go on

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Speaker 2: the road, they take care of the Minnesota Vikings twenty

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Speaker 2: eight to twenty two. Jalen Hurts has a solid game,

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Speaker 2: I mean, his best game of the season, no question about.

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Speaker 2: At nineteen to twenty three, to three and twenty six yard,

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Speaker 2: three touchdowns. He found his buddy always open aj Brown

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00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 2: four receptions for one to twenty one and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: I know you got to love to see that. The first,

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Speaker 2: I guess quarter of the season, this Philly offense just

449
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Speaker 2: had no identity and now they still can't run the football,

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Speaker 2: but they finally figured out how to throw it and

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Speaker 2: they take care of the Minnesota Vikings. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: leave this game and think, hey, Philly is dominant. I

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Speaker 2: don't think they are. I mean, Carson Wentz gifted them

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Speaker 2: an interception. He did not look good at all. But Richard,

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Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on this Philadelphia Eagles team. They

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Speaker 2: escape Minnesota with a win.

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Speaker 1: I think this was really good for the locker room. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: there was a ton of frustration going on both with

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Speaker 1: the pass game, both receivers who were frustrated, Sakwon Barkley's frustrated,

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Speaker 1: and overall, Jalen Hurts played one of the best games

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Speaker 1: of the season. He was very efficient, nineteen of twenty

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Speaker 1: three for three twenty six and three touchdowns. Again, like

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Speaker 1: you said at the running game, still can't find his ground,

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Speaker 1: and some of it is schematic, some of it. You

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Speaker 1: don't have Makai Becton at the right guard, you don't

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Speaker 1: have a a embarrassment of riches like they did before.

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Speaker 1: Still kind of banged up on that offensive line. They're

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Speaker 1: not healthy and that hurts everything. But yeah, aj Brown

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Speaker 1: having four receptions for one twenty one and two touchdowns

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Speaker 1: in a critical catch late in the game that sealed

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Speaker 1: the game on the dubble move. Those are the things

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Speaker 1: you need to give yourself a chance late in the

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Speaker 1: season and to keep these guys happy. Devonte Smith has

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Speaker 1: been having good games in great games. This is one

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Speaker 1: of his best games. I think this is a career

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Speaker 1: high one eighty three in a touchdown. But you need

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Speaker 1: to have these guys healthy if you're gonna have any

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Speaker 1: chance late in this season. Jalen Carter being back obviously

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Speaker 1: helped this defensive ton They look like they might have

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Speaker 1: lost to Dorri Jackson for a bit of time, but

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Speaker 1: they still made big plays.

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Speaker 3: They had a pick six.

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Speaker 1: In this game, and that ended up being the difference

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Speaker 1: in this ball game against the Viking team that's obviously

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Speaker 1: playing Carson Wentz and you know, had some struggles with

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Speaker 1: their offensive line. But I don't know. I still don't

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Speaker 1: know what to make of this team. I'm not necessarily

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Speaker 1: ready to put them back in the top five and say, man,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles are back, because it just doesn't feel that

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Speaker 1: way right now. It still feels like there's some hiccups there,

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Speaker 1: some struggles that are unnecessary. There's not enough balance. Is

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Speaker 1: this sustainable? Ken Jalen hurts this sufficiently? This effectively? Every

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Speaker 1: single game? Can the defense create a pick six and

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Speaker 1: in another turnover every game? I'm not sure I think

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Speaker 1: they can win the next one. They play the Giants,

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Speaker 1: so they could come back and and end up splitting

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Speaker 1: this season with the Giants, But I think there's something

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Speaker 1: to be said that about, you know, their offensive struggles,

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Speaker 1: at least running the football. Jalen Hurts played a phenomenal

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Speaker 1: game and it still came down to the wire. He

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Speaker 1: played one of his best games of the season and

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Speaker 1: still came down to a really incredible throw and catch

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Speaker 1: for him against against the Minnesota Vikings, against their zero

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Speaker 1: blitz pressure.

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Speaker 2: And so.

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Speaker 1: I hope they figured it out, but it's still be seen.

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Speaker 1: You know, this, this is ever evolving league and an

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Speaker 1: ever evolving situation with Philadelphias.

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Speaker 2: They're just different in the standpoint that, you know, not

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Speaker 2: only offensively to the they look different, but defensively. You

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Speaker 2: talked about it last week with the absence of Milton

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Speaker 2: Williams and Josh Schwatt. They let those guys walk free agency.

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Speaker 2: You know, they they signsa Darius Smith from my Detroit Lions. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: but that experiment didn't last very long. He just announced

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Speaker 2: his retirement. Now we're hearing that Brandon Graham might be

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Speaker 2: coming back. Potentially he's mulling coming out of retirement. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's a good idea for both sides?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it always makes sense pass rushers. It's

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Speaker 1: a very specialty position and it's one of those things

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Speaker 1: either you have it or you don't have it. And

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Speaker 1: Brandon Graham obviously has it, obviously fits into this scheme,

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Speaker 1: and it would he means so much to that locker room.

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Speaker 1: He would come in and fit in right away with

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Speaker 1: their with their depth, you know, being depleted, you know, Nolan.

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Speaker 3: Smith being on IR. He'd be a welcome addition.

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Speaker 1: So I think it could work out, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure that's going to actually happen, or or if he'll

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Speaker 1: wait till later in the season, you know, maybe make

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Speaker 1: that playoff run, which would be which would be a

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Speaker 1: really cool story, no question about it. And the Vikings

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Speaker 1: on the other side got some decisions to make. We

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Speaker 1: got them this Thursday night in l A against the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: and they got to figure out if they're gonna play

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, are they're gonna stick with Carson Wentz. And

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Speaker 1: like you said, Carson Wentz had some really really bad

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Speaker 1: interceptions today, the pick six where he was under Durest

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Speaker 1: and he just put the ball in Harm's way and

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Speaker 1: they rent it in for a touchdown. Our plays you

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Speaker 1: can't have without that play. You know they they may

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Speaker 1: find a way to win this game, but with that

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Speaker 1: play makes it incredible, incredibly difficult, difficult to beat the

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Speaker 1: defending champions, and it's gonna be incredibly difficult to beat

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Speaker 1: the Chargers and Justin Herbert. If you make those kind

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Speaker 1: of mistakes, they're gonna make you pay for it. So

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Speaker 1: I don't I'm not sure the old line is good

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Speaker 1: enough for them to put JJ McCarthy behind it again.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure he's processing as fast as

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is and and gonna be able to execute

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Speaker 1: the offense as well. Just in youth, you know, I

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Speaker 1: know people are like, oh, man, he's he's the number one,

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Speaker 1: he's the number ten pick and he just I hear you.

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Speaker 1: But he's a rookie and Carson Wentz is still a

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Speaker 1: veteran who's processing. It's the same thing when you have

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Speaker 1: a guy like Flacco come in to Cincinnati and they're like, man,

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Speaker 1: Jake Brownie was doing all this. Blacko's a veteran. He's

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Speaker 1: played for eighteen years. He's seen a lot of football.

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Speaker 1: He understands it. He sees it in the way the

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Speaker 1: coaches see it. He'll be able to recognize when the

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Speaker 1: safety's dropping, when they're splitting, when the rush is coming.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to be necessarily perfect. But when you

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Speaker 1: don't have a great offensive line, you give yourself the

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Speaker 1: best chance with a veteran quarterback who could at least

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Speaker 1: presumably get you to the right play and get you

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Speaker 1: to the right situation and make the right decision. And

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Speaker 1: in most situations, obviously he didn't today. He threw for

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Speaker 1: three hundred yards, zero touchdowns, two interceptions. So what didn't

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Speaker 1: work out like they wanted to today? But I think they're

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Speaker 1: going to stick with Carson Wentz because you just don't

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Speaker 1: want to put him, put a rookie behind this offensive

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Speaker 1: line and have this pass rush get to him.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I like either option, honestly, Richard, either

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Speaker 2: Carson Wantz or JJ McCarthy. I really don't. I can't

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Speaker 2: believe I'm saying this. But do you think the Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Vikings are kicking themselves for not re signing Daniel Indiana

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Speaker 2: Jones this offseason?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I do. I think they're kicking themselves, But I

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Speaker 1: don't think they could have afforded it. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: look at it now, and they had Sam Donald and

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Speaker 1: Indiana Jones in the fold and you're like, literally, wow, wow,

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Speaker 1: look how that worked out, and you ended up with

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentzon, JJ McCarthy. And if it doesn't get better again,

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Speaker 1: hindsight is twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: We can always sit back here.

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Speaker 1: As Monday morning quarterbacks and be like, man, they should

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Speaker 1: have done this, they should have done this. But clearly

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Speaker 1: their you know, scouting department and research and what Sam

588
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Speaker 1: Donald was asking for, they felt like this was the

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Speaker 1: best decision they could make at the time and give

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Speaker 1: themselves a chance to win. Obviously, it looks like Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald is thriving in Seattle, one of the most efficient

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. His connection with Jackson Smith and

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Speaker 1: Jigba is one of the best in the li League.

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Speaker 1: And then you got Daniel Jones who's doing incredibly with

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. But I think there's something to be

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Speaker 1: said about about sitting and waiting and being healthy and

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Speaker 1: learning from the quarterback in front of you. But we'll see,

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Speaker 1: because you don't want to have another situation where JJ

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Speaker 1: McCarthy gets out there, he gets banged up, his confidence

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Speaker 1: is shot, the fans stop believing in and the fans start

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Speaker 1: believing that he's not the answer, and then you lose

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Speaker 1: things going forward, you lose the confident. Right now, there's

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Speaker 1: still that mystery, there's still that era of a mystery.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's the answer, maybe he just haven't figured it

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Speaker 1: out yet. But you put him out there three four

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Speaker 1: games and it doesn't go well, and they're gonna they're

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Speaker 1: gonna lose that mystery. Intri people are gonna say, hey,

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Speaker 1: he's a bust because because we're in a microwave age,

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Speaker 1: everybody's either the best or a bust every week. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's just the way age we're in. You can complain

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Speaker 1: about all you want. That's reality, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: Before we leave this game, we saw a very unique

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Speaker 2: I guess strategy against the tush push. We've seen teams

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Speaker 2: try to uh approach defending the tush push in a

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Speaker 2: number of different ways. This is a first. A guy

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Speaker 2: was lined up I guess sideways to the line and

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Speaker 2: all fours. H Richard. If you first off to our viewers,

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Speaker 2: if you guys have not seen this, just take a

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Speaker 2: look at it, YouTube, at Google it, do whatever. But

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Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings use a very unique strategy lining a guy

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Speaker 2: up on all fours in front of the in front

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Speaker 2: of the center. Richard, what do you make of this approach?

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Speaker 1: It's just team's trying to figure out an answer for it,

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Speaker 1: you know, something that can change up, something different, and

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Speaker 1: maybe somebody uses that and and builds on it and

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Speaker 1: figures out a different way to put him or a

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Speaker 1: different place to put him.

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Speaker 3: But it's gonna It's the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna just be stagnant and guys just continueing

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Speaker 1: to let them run a play and have one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent success. They're gonna do things and they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: just concede that it's just a first down when they

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Speaker 1: line up in information. They're going to try different things

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Speaker 1: to try to find an answer for And that was

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Speaker 1: just the Minnesota Vikings and Brian Flores trying something new.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the New England Patriots. They continue they're

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Speaker 2: winning ways like the Patriots of old. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: take care of the lowly Tennessee Titans on the road.

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Speaker 2: But Drake May I mean, Richard, you want to talk

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Speaker 2: about efficiency. This guy looks like a stud. Twenty one

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Speaker 2: to twenty three, two hundred and twenty two yards, two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: He's given the New England Patriots life. You gotta love

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Speaker 2: the job that Mike Frable's done his first year on

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Speaker 2: the job. It just seems like so so much of

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Speaker 2: a hand and glove fit for New England. Do you

646
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Speaker 2: think New England's back? I mean, their schedule is so

647
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: weak going forward. They played the Browns next week, then

648
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: they got a decent challenge against the Antlantic Falcons and

649
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: then a true test against Tampa Bay. But assuming they

650
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: beat Cleveland next week, they are six and two. I mean,

651
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: this team, after last year and the year before that

652
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: and the year before that, ever since Tom Brady left,

653
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: has been struggling to find their new identity. Do you

654
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: think they've found it in Drake May.

655
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. I definitely think they've found it.

656
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: And I think they've also found what I talked about earlier,

657
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: the balance. Whemandre Stevenson had eighteen carriers for eighty eight

658
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: yards in the touchdown, They're running the ball well, Booty

659
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: had an incredible catch for a touchdown. Drake Mays pushing

660
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: the ball down the field and as accurate as anybody

661
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: in the National Football League on deep passes this year,

662
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: and it was obviously apparent today he threw for two

663
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: twenty two and two touchdowns twenty one to twenty three,

664
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Speaker 1: and the defense had four sacks. You have to play

665
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: good defense. You have to have a run game because

666
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: the run game helps your defense, gives them some rest.

667
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: Be effective on third down, be efficient in the red zone,

668
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: and that's what they've done. Drake May has grown this year,

669
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: and again they're doing everything they can. Mike Bravell was

670
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: putting him in positions to be successful. You knew he

671
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: would want to win this game versus the Tennessee Titans.

672
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: They let him go and literally just fired his replacement

673
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: last week because I guess they didn't want to send

674
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: his replacement in there for him to look that man

675
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: in an eye and try to I think they would

676
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: have ran to score up even more if Callahan was

677
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: still a coach. But yeah, I agree with you. They

678
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: have multiple games against the Miami Dolphins. I think they

679
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: got another game against the Jets this game because they're

680
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: in AFC East, it's a favorable schedule, and they've already

681
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: went into Buffalo and got to win. So when you

682
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 1: look at that and you're like, hey, you gotta feel

683
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: confident that you're gonna win those games Miami's kind of

684
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: imploding right now. You're not sure if Mike McDaniel is

685
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: gonna be there by the time they played the New

686
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: England Patriots again late in the season. New York hasn't

687
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: won a game yet, and you beat Buffalo, you could

688
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: beat the Browns.

689
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: Obviously.

690
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: Quentin Judikins is running the ball really well now, so

691
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: the Browns look a little bit better. But they're they're

692
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: gonna roll out a rookie quarterback, and I'm sure Mike

693
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: Frable will have a plan for him to confuse him,

694
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: to make to give him dynamic looks. They'll have to

695
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: deal with Miles Garrett in that defense and Tyson Campbell,

696
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: who had a pick six in a game this week.

697
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: So the Browns aren't just laying down for anybody. They're

698
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: trying to be competitive and they're going to compete in

699
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: that game. So it's not necessarily an easy win, but

700
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: I like their chances in it. I think the Patriots.

701
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: I don't know about Patriots of old. You know, they

702
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: were a dynasty that won six Super Bowls and went

703
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: to tens. So let's not get ahead of ourselves, but

704
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: they're definitely a competitive team right now.

705
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Tennessee Titans very briefly here, Richard,

706
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: if we had a redraft, a twenty twenty five redraft,

707
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: is it cam Ward or is it Jackson Dark going

708
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: off the board first? For the Tennessee Titans.

709
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: I think it's still cam Ward. I think they still

710
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: go with cam Ward. I think they like what they

711
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: see in him. I think that he obviously doesn't have

712
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: enough talent around him, doesn't have enough structure around him,

713
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: which is why they fired the head coach. I think again,

714
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: when you talk about these quarterbacks development, who the offensive

715
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: coordinator is, what the system is, How are you playing

716
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: to his strengths? What does he do well? What does

717
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: he do incredibly well? Can you put him in positions

718
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: to do that again and again and again and not

719
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: challenge him to do things that he's uncomfortable doing, or

720
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: at least teach him how to be better at those things.

721
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: And I think that's sometimes what you get in a

722
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: position where you see a quarterback struggle because he's thrown

723
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: into a situation where they're expecting him to be developed

724
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: and him to have the answers. And you didn't put

725
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: a you didn't put a great vetter, or you know

726
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. Sometimes you put a great bet around him.

727
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: You like Marcus Mariota. The Washington Commanders put Marcus Mariota

728
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: in the quarterback room with with Jadeen Daniels so he

729
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: could be kind of a mentor to him. Obviously, Jayden

730
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: Daniels is the starter, he's the guy, but he can

731
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: help him get ready for these games, to know what

732
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: to see, to where to look, how to prepare, how

733
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: to take care of his body. You want to have

734
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: those things sometimes, and I'm not sure they have that

735
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: right now for cam Ward, and I don't. I think

736
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: next year when they go to get ahead coach that's

737
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: going to be at the forefront, They're gonna look for

738
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: somebody that can help develop him and help to his

739
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: strengths and really bring the best out of him as

740
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: a player.

741
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: I don't.

742
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 2: I don't.

743
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: I like Jackson Dart. I think he's in a perfect

744
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: spot with Dabo. I think that all worked out as

745
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: he should. But I don't think this that is an

746
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: indictment against cam Ward or this season is. I think

747
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: this was a lost season for the Tennessee Titans because

748
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: there they aren't a very talented team outside of cam Ward.

749
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: But I think there is somebody else that could get

750
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: the most out of him.

751
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: I think management should also reconsider trading aj Brown for

752
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: a pick that neted them tray Von Burks, but I

753
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 2: guess that's neither here nor there, Richard. Don't look now.

754
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: But the Chicago Bears are four and two, and I

755
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: guess my main question is to you, as a Detroit

756
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: Lion fan, should I be worried with them being in

757
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: the NFC North.

758
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if you should be worried.

759
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 1: It is cool that they're they're foreign too, but they've

760
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: they've gotten some wins against some teams that that aren't

761
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: necessarily contenders. I don't think they're ready for the big

762
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: time yet, but it's good for them they've won I

763
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: think foreign a row now now. Ben Johnson is doing

764
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: a good job getting the most out of the players,

765
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: just building culture, and I think that's what they're focused on,

766
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: just building winning habits, winning tendencies, making the right play

767
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: making the right decisions in these in game situations. I

768
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: don't think they're looking too far in the future or

769
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: worried about the playoffs or anything like that. I think

770
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: they're taking a one game at a time and trying

771
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: to get Caleb Williams where he needs to go. He

772
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: is fifteen of twenty six today for one to seventy

773
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: two in an interception, and they had two hundred and

774
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: twenty two yards running the football. DeAndre Swift had nineteen

775
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: carries for one to twenty four, and I think that's

776
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: what this offensive line is built to do. Again, like

777
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: I've said, for the history of football, you look at

778
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: championship teams and most of them will tell you run

779
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: game and get defense. And then if your quarterback is

780
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: dynamic and can get the job done, that's a plus.

781
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: That's gonna take you over the top. You're gonna win

782
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. But right now they're they're developing in

783
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: those habits. Their defense is making plays. They had four sacks,

784
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: three in or seven in this game, and that's what

785
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: they're doing. That's how they're building their winning habits. They're

786
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: consistently doing the things necessary, building their foundation, building their fundamentals,

787
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: and that's what's allowing them to keep winning.

788
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 2: As you said, the running game was active today. DeAndre

789
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: Swift nineteen carries for one to twenty four in a touchdown,

790
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: and then the rookie out of Rutgers Kyle Manungai thirteen

791
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: and eighty one in a touchdown. That's big for the

792
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears team, albeit against the New Orleans Saints. Winning

793
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: is important. You're never gonna undersell a win. Winning in

794
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: the NFL, as you would say, Richard, is not easy,

795
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 2: and it's big time for Ben Johnson in this team.

796
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: I've a lot of Detroiters have animosity towards Ben Johnson,

797
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: but I'm glad to see him succeeding. Especially with what

798
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: we're seeing with Aaron Glenn in New York. You'd like

799
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: to have one of your former coordinators at least finding

800
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: some success. The one team I do not want to

801
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: see succeed is the Green Bay Packers, but they squeaked

802
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: out a win in it Arizona twenty seven to twenty three. Richard,

803
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: when we saw the New or the Green Bay Packers

804
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: dominate the Detroit Lions week one, I thought we were

805
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: looking at a team that was gonna walk away with

806
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: the NFC. But over the last couple of weeks, it

807
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 2: looks like a team that's just skating on the edge

808
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: of victory or defeat. And today they skated on that

809
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: edge and walked away with the w What do you

810
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: make of this Green Bay Packers team? Because to me,

811
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: they don't look all that impressive. You know, Jordan Love

812
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 2: only throw us for one hundred and seventy nine yards

813
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 2: in a touchdown. Josh Jacobs, you know, carried the load

814
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: two touchdowns but only rushed for fifty five yards. It

815
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: was the defense and Micah Parsons with three sacks that

816
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: really won them this game. What do you see in

817
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: Green Bay? Do you see them as a NFC contender?

818
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 2: They got a lot of work to do still.

819
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Well, And I know Green Bay Packers fans and I

820
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: know we just we're just never going to agree on

821
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: this because they will go as Jordan Love goes, because

822
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: teams will not let you beat them with Josh Jacobs.

823
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: They will not.

824
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: They will If that's your best then you're saying your

825
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: best player, and I would agree with you. I think

826
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: their best bet is when Josh Jacobs gets going, everything

827
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: else opens up.

828
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: They're a really good offense.

829
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: But when Josh Jacobs gets stopped, when teams stack the

830
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: box and find a way to stop Jacobs, can Jordan

831
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: Love beat you?

832
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 3: And if that's what.

833
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: Teams are doing, then is Jordan Love the guy, you

834
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Because if they're gonna say, hey,

835
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna make him play quarterback and beat us like that,

836
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: and we're gonna say, hey, we don't think he can

837
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: do it, then that brings up more questions and answers.

838
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: But that's what teams are gonna do. And if he

839
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: can answer the bell. And obviously they need to get

840
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: more healthy at receiver. I think Christian Watson is coming back.

841
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: They need to get Jaydon Reed back. But that's what

842
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to. Their defense is gonna be solid.

843
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna be They've been in position to win just

844
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: about every game. The Browns game, I thought they were

845
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: in position to win that game. I thought their defense

846
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: played well. They didn't give up a touchdown and two

847
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: the interception from Jordan Love, and then they were in

848
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: scoring position. They scored a touchdown, ended up winning that game.

849
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: But the same thing was true here. You know, I

850
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: thought Jordan Love struggled a little bit and then they

851
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 1: some plays were made. You know, he pushed the ball

852
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: down the field a little bit, hit Matthew Golden on

853
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: a deep pass, and then it starts to open up.

854
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs once they got in the red zone. It

855
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: was a critical situation. They hinded it off to Josh Jacobs.

856
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: He sees that end zone, he gets within the goal line,

857
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: it's he's gonna find a way to get in there.

858
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: And that's what he did. He's a great player. Their

859
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: defense had six sacks today. That was the big thing.

860
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons had never, never in his career had a

861
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: three sack game. He did today. He did today because

862
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: they had to have it. And he sacked Jacoby Brissett

863
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: three times in this game where Sean Gary had won.

864
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: And that's what it took. That's what it took. Kway

865
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: Walker had a sack and a half in this game.

866
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: Their defense was making plays and they were giving their

867
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: team a chance. But I don't think it should be

868
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: this hard versus the Arizona Cardinals. Now, the Arizona Cardinals

869
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: could definitely have a different a different record. They they

870
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: lost multiple games at the wire, last second field goals.

871
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: At least two of those games. This game came down

872
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: to the wire. So they've been playing good football. You

873
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: got to give Josh Gannon a lot of credit for

874
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: the way they've been battling there Without Kyler Murray. They're

875
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: without their star running back, and I think that should

876
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: be applauded. You know, they're they're still figuring it out

877
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: with with Marvin Harrison Junior. He you know, he's had

878
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: up and down games and he's figured it out. There

879
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: was some PI calls he drew today and made some

880
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: cool catches, but they were but overall they went against

881
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback and it came down to the wire,

882
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: and so I think there's something to be said about

883
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. And I know people are like, man,

884
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: you're so hard on him, But that's the point. That's

885
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to be when you It would be

886
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: different if these quarterbacks were on rookie deals. When you're

887
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: on a rookie deal, you get the benefit of the doubt.

888
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 1: That's just how it goals. You get the benefit of doubt,

889
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: you get less criticism, you get the excuses, hey, he's

890
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: a rookie, he's learning.

891
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: Once you're not on that rookie.

892
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: Deal and you're one of the highest paid players in

893
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: the National Football League, you get criticism. I'm sorry, I'm

894
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: not gonna you're not gonna say, hey, man, this guy's

895
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: making fifty five million dollars. They don't have to be elite,

896
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: they don't have to be perfect, Like give him a break,

897
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: Like what then? What do we say then? What do

898
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: you want us to say? Man, they don't need Jordan

899
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: Love to play better. He can just keep doing like this.

900
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: It's up to everybody else to play better and to

901
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: lift him up. And Josh Jacob's got to do everything.

902
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: So like they need both. But if Josh Jacobs doesn't

903
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: get going, and you're a fifty five million dollar quarterback,

904
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: then it should be okay to depend on you to

905
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: win us this game. And I thought he made some

906
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: plays today to help win this game, so I'll give

907
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: him credit. But that's what it's gonna come down to

908
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: on whether this team gets to a super Bowl, wins

909
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: in the playoffs or if they don't, because teams are

910
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: gonna make him play left handed. They're not gonna let

911
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: him beat them with Josh Jacobs running the football, And

912
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: it won't be any fault of Josh Jacobs. He'll do

913
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: everything he can, but they're gonna stack the Box's gonna

914
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: be eight man boxes. They're gonna man these receivers. And

915
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: if they win and Jordan Love has a good game.

916
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers will win, no question about it.

917
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: I believe they will win, and they are talented enough

918
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: to do it, especially when they're receiving Core gets healthy.

919
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: Well on the opposit side of the field, oppositide of

920
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 2: the ball. Rather, Michaeh. Parsons flat out won them this game,

921
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: clutch moments, crucial moments late in the game, getting sacks,

922
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: taking care of the Arizona Cardinals, but his former team,

923
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys, getting impressive win at home, a dominating win. Richard,

924
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: seven weeks into the season, Now, how do you analyze

925
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: this trade? Because the Dallas Cowboys look competitive, they gained

926
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 2: a bunch of assets and cap space with dealing Michaeh Parsons.

927
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 2: Do you view this still as the wrong move seven

928
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: than weeks into the season.

929
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

930
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: I don't think you ever can view it as a

931
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: as a great move. I think I think the Dallas

932
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys are in a great position offensively. I think they

933
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: to steal George Pickens from the Pittsburgh Steelers the way

934
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: they did and for him to blossom into the kind

935
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: of receiver that everybody thought he'd be coming out of Georgia.

936
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: It's really cool to see. And now Ceedee Lamb is

937
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: back and they look like an explosive duel today. The

938
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys scored forty four today and and Dak Prescott if

939
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: they were if they had a better record, Dak Prescott

940
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: has an incredible argument to be an MVP conversation Offensive

941
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: Player of the Year conversation. He has played phenomenal football

942
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: this season and with or without Ceedee Lamb in the lineup,

943
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: and for him to get his star receiver back and

944
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: continue to grow and continue to play that way and

945
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: continue to put up points. And now his defense is

946
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: starting to show up and get some stops and give

947
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: it more possessions and it's starting to roll. Javonte Williams

948
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: is continuing to look like his old self and run

949
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: the football with aggressiveness and violence. I'd say both teams

950
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: feel comfortable right now. Both teams feel comfortable about how

951
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: it went. But the Packers are for one and one.

952
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: They're in position to continue to win and maybe potentially

953
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: chase a one seed in the NFC. And I'm not

954
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: sure the Cowboys are especially defensively, but I think you

955
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: would want Michael Parsons on your team if you're Dallas Cowboys,

956
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: and I don't think the Packers. I think the Packers

957
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: will be a worse team if they didn't have them.

958
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't think the Packers will be four to one

959
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: and one if they didn't have Michael Parsons. So again,

960
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: I still feel like they won this trade. You won't

961
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: know what the Cowboys got from Michael Parsons until the draft.

962
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 1: They got draft picks, So how will those draft picks

963
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: pan out? How do they affect winning in the future.

964
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: We'll see, But right now, Michael Parsons is making an

965
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: immediate impact for the Green Bay Packers and helping them

966
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: win real National Football League games like he did today

967
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: had three sacks, So I think both sides are content

968
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: for now.

969
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: Richard, we got to talk real quick before we wrap

970
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: about a coach that's on the hot seat. Mike McDaniel

971
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 2: goes on the road against Cleveland Brown's a team you

972
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 2: think the Miami Dolphins and a coach that desperately needs

973
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: a win would show up for They did not, did

974
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: not at all. They took a drumming thirty one to

975
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: six against the Cleveland Browns. Richard, how hot is this

976
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: hot seat? How much longer does this last? In Miami

977
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: with Mike McDaniel. I'm not sure. I'm not sure because

978
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: again this is and people will call me the quarterback

979
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: hater or whatever. I'm not a quarterback hater, but I'm accountability.

980
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm accountability. They they're paying to a tung of i

981
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: Looa fifty three million dollars a year. They're not paying

982
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel, I mean, Mike McDaniel fifty three million dollars.

983
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: They're paying to a tongue of i Loa. So tungue

984
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: of Iloa has head back to back three interceptions. That

985
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: is unacceptable. That's not acceptable in any any respect for

986
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: any position anybody. So of course you got to give

987
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, he's the head coach, he's the offensive guru.

988
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: All you got to give him some some criticism. But

989
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: the criticism also goes to the player. And for you

990
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: to go into the media and speak the way you

991
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: did last week to a tongue of bay loewe and

992
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: I know I've harped on this enough, but and continue

993
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: to play like this. Mike McDaniel goes out there in

994
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: this press conference and said, if if you're negatively affecting

995
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: the football team, routinely. I don't have a choice but

996
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: to assess a different player. And we're gonna find out

997
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 1: who and what we're made of. And he's speaking directly

998
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: to to a tongue vailua. I'm sure he's speaking to

999
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: other players, but he's speaking to the quarterback. And he

1000
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: replaced them in the game with quentin Ewers. And and

1001
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: what do they could you imagine the world where they

1002
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: they they start Quinny Quinny. His name has given me

1003
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: quin Ewers, quinn Ewers, quinn eris quinn Ewers quinn owers

1004
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: next week, I I what does that do for to

1005
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: a tongue of I Loa's career? What does that do

1006
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: for the league? And even if you fired Mike McDaniel,

1007
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: you still have to a tongue of ila. And you

1008
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: have an injured Tyreek Hill, who's a big cap hit

1009
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: you you have you still have issues. Devin A. Chain

1010
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: is is is playing really well. Thirteen carries for eighty

1011
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: two yards. He busts some big ones today. But you

1012
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: can't you can't pauls. Paul He's got some big ones.

1013
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: That's crazy, But you can't. You can't just depend on

1014
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: that if you don't have a pass game. Then then

1015
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: you can't open up the run game. So you got

1016
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddell, who's who's out there is a big speed,

1017
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: big threat and all this stuff. But the quarterback has

1018
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: absolutely no confidence. He's thrown over ten interceptions on He's

1019
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: thrown ten interceptions on the season. I don't know who's

1020
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: the problem and who's the answer, because you've seen success.

1021
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: From both of them.

1022
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: But right now, it's unacceptable play from the quarterback, and

1023
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: it's unacceptable play from the team overall. They're struggling. The

1024
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: Browns ran the ball well on them, they threw the

1025
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: ball well on them. They're going against a rookie quarterback

1026
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel thirteen for eighteen for one to sixteen, nothing crazy,

1027
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: but Judkins had twenty five carries for eighty four yards

1028
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns. And they just look like a better

1029
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: team than you. And obviously they have Miles Garrett. They're

1030
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: a tough outfit. On defense. I think they're a good defense,

1031
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: and obviously the record doesn't show what they really are.

1032
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: They're two and five, but they still have talent on defense.

1033
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: And we talked about Diyson Campbell and his pick six

1034
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: in this game, but they also have ward. On the

1035
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: other side, they have some players on defense that could

1036
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: get the job done and play at a high level.

1037
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: But this is unacceptable play from the quarterback. You cannot

1038
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: be above criticism making fift three million dollars.

1039
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1040
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: There's too many quarterbacks making fifty million dollars that guys

1041
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: are making excuses for. With great pay comes great responsibility

1042
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: and great accountability and great criticism.

1043
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: Is it fair?

1044
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: No?

1045
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: But is it fair? You're making fifty three million dollars.

1046
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: We'll see you know, you getting paid for this job

1047
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: and this comes with the job. So a quarterback that's

1048
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: throwing six interceptions in two weeks, I mean he's part

1049
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: of the problem.

1050
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: Seeing as how the Indianapolis Colts have done it, the

1051
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings have done it. I'm not paying a guy

1052
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: that I'm unsure of fifty plus million dollars. I'm gonna

1053
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: go and look for a guy that hasn't had success

1054
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: elsewhere and pay him far less and see if I

1055
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: can rejuvenate his career. Because this Miami Dolphins team is

1056
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: going nowhere fast and I don't know how long this

1057
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: deal is for. To a tongue of ailoa, Richard. But Richard,

1058
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 2: it's not looking like it's gonna end well in Miami

1059
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: for Mike McDaniel. Because of it all odds.

1060
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: And lines coming from our partners at hard Rock Bet.

1061
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: We've got two Monday night football game games tomorrow, the

1062
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: Seahawks versus the Titans and the Lions versus the Buccaneers.

1063
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: The Seahawks are favored by three against Houston Texans. You

1064
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: got the Seahawks covering, Richard.

1065
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 3: No question about it, Mitchell.

1066
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: They got js in, one of the best receivers in

1067
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: the National Football League, Sam Darnold playing his best football.

1068
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: K nine, and then they got a d line full

1069
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 3: of hunters. They're gonna cover.

1070
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: My main question is, Richard, can they win at home?

1071
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: Well, they got to deal with the noise. They got

1072
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: to deal with it. But Mitchell, it's no time like

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Speaker 1: the president.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, And how about this, I'll be in Ford Field.

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Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions are favored by six points against Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 3: Who do you like?

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Speaker 2: You like the Lions to cover? Come on, give me

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Speaker 2: some love here, Richard. I want to give him some love.

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Speaker 1: But Mitchell, that was a struggle fest against the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs and the Buccaneers are number one on in

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Speaker 1: my power ranks. I can't have them being minus six

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Speaker 1: in the game, Mitchell. I know they're gonna make it

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Speaker 1: a game. I expect them to potentially win this game.

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Speaker 1: With Mike Evans healthy now back in the lineup, a

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Speaker 1: Mecca Buca questionable, maybe even Chris Godwin. Mitchell, it's been

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Speaker 1: a while. Mike Evans is gonna come back with a vengeance.

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Speaker 2: I love that they're number one of your power ranks

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Speaker 2: because guess what, the Detroit Lions beating your number one

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Speaker 2: power rank team might earn them the shot back at

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Speaker 2: being number one. I guess we'll see.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: Guys. We appreciate you jumping in with us every week. Richard.

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Speaker 2: I will let you sign us off as we conclude

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Speaker 2: Week seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you joining us as always. You could

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Speaker 1: be anywhere in the world, but you're here with us,

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Speaker 1: and we sure of appreciate it. Hit that sub button

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Speaker 1: if you knew, we'll be here giving you content all

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Speaker 1: year long, and we