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Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, this is where it's time right now for

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Speaker 1: uh what do we call these Africa dispatch Tanzania?

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Speaker 2: Did uh dispatches from a Dispatches from Africa? Volume two?

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Speaker 2: What is it? Flop two?

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Speaker 1: That's right, because you're flopping right down. We're on flop to.

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Speaker 1: Last night we made a list of how many game

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Speaker 1: animals we've seen in three days. This is our fourth

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Speaker 1: full hunt day in three hunt days. I think our

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Speaker 1: list was ten.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're at least at ten. And I think

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Speaker 3: we skipped a couple. I think that stuff we missed.

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Speaker 1: And right now we are on If it's ten, we're

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Speaker 1: on number eleven.

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Speaker 2: We're working on number eleven. It's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: So last night, yesterday evening, we were driving through an area.

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Speaker 2: We drove long ways yesterday, yeah, we did. We put

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Speaker 1: We were driving through an area and the trackers from

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Speaker 1: the truck saw where there had been a herd yep

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Speaker 1: in one of the burned areas. And then we drove

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Speaker 1: a little more and the trackers jumped out and counted

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Speaker 1: where four bulls had crossed this trail. So today we

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Speaker 1: came in in the morning, parked and started walking into

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Speaker 1: that area and like boom found where found three bowls.

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Speaker 1: So we got on the tracks and guys, two of

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Speaker 1: our trackers Solmoney Yep, Ellie Money yep, Ellie Mini still

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Speaker 1: with us right now, followed them. They were kind of

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Speaker 2: We bumped them. Yeah, they got that wind.

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Speaker 1: They went climbed out, went to the ridge, climbed back

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Speaker 1: down into the valley we were in, entered this big

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Speaker 1: area of eight foot high grass with maybe a few

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Maximum.

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Speaker 1: The guys tracked and tracked him until eventually you could

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Speaker 1: hear them milling around and they were like there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well the birds gave him away. The guys heard

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Speaker 3: the birds on them, the packers, they could hear them

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Speaker 3: kind of chattering, and so you know, we knew those

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Speaker 3: buffalo were right there in front of us, maybe fifty

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you just hear them. Oh you could hear him.

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Speaker 2: You put not a prayer seeing them. No, they milled

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Speaker 1: The guys tracked him again, and this is hours of

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Speaker 1: time that go oh yeah, bumped them again, and now

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Speaker 1: you feel like we're just gonna keep hammering on them, keep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely so.

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Speaker 3: I mean the closest we got in that tall grass

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Speaker 3: I could hear them like right there. Just the only

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Speaker 3: back line, you know, it was so thick in there.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, from there, they weren't really spooked.

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Speaker 3: They're a little suspicious. They moved off, they kind of

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Speaker 3: came into this miombo here, laid down, and then yeah,

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Speaker 3: unfortunately we were just you know, it was one of

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Speaker 3: those things. Even me, you know, I kind of learned

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Speaker 3: and we're kind of like, well, let's just sit down.

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Speaker 3: You know, the tracks were really faint, it was getting tough,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, well, let's just chill out for

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Speaker 3: but we would have seen them at least.

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Speaker 1: But really it played out when I was first talking,

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Speaker 1: you were getting interested in hunting Kate Buffalo and you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you included everything that happened. Yeah, well, even down

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Speaker 2: you'll find them. You might move them, wait a while,

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Speaker 2: find them again, find them again. Ye keep bumping them along. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well even when we were in that tall grass, you know,

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Speaker 3: You know, they're they're tired of walking, they're ready to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And you explained to me before you can't do

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Speaker 2: this at off the trackers. Oh no, no.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely dependent on trackers. The other day we were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's absolutely right. I mean their skills are phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: So do me a favorite ask uh ask Elimani. When

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Speaker 2: What is he looking at?

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Speaker 1: What are the indicators he's looking at when he picks

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, any mighty, come Outnajua mar my johnny o

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Speaker 3: Nasi gwangalia.

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Speaker 3: So he's he's when he when he picks up a

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Speaker 1: Ask him what is his favorite animal track?

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Speaker 3: Sasa coma, una, penda, kuinda wan yama, gani, culico one,

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Speaker 2: Number number So yeah, he's buffalo is number one. He says.

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Speaker 1: How old was he when he first started studying how

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Speaker 3: Okay olianza, couchifunza, screaming.

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Speaker 4: Winds. Come ayand Pierre and Michelle and assume well bi.

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Speaker 3: So he used to live He used to live near

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Speaker 1: Them?

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Speaker 2: Lasamani wulipender.

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Speaker 4: As as a money with your maijie and watching my thing,

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Speaker 3: So his favorite was buffalo and what he used to do, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: what he used to do was he'd build a small

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when he looks at like oftentimes they'll find a

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Speaker 1: dropping buffalo dropping, he'll scratch it. Yeah, what clues are

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Speaker 2: What what? What sorts of things does he like to see?

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Speaker 2: How does it?

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Speaker 3: When?

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Speaker 2: Is it two days old? One? Is it one day old?

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Speaker 3: On a dropping okona mafigalia, niniku gosu.

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Speaker 2: Leni on a pitah si.

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Speaker 4: Jew ohangai kuna in a peppo in acca nat thistancy

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: So what he does when he when he scratches it

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Speaker 3: like that, he's looking at how dry it is and

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Speaker 3: whether there's any bugs in there. If there's bugs in there,

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, gotcha, that's what that is wan to rise

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the outside layer is drying in the you know,

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Speaker 1: bump them three times, does it get less encouraging or

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Speaker 3: Well, from my perspective, it gets I would say it

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Speaker 3: gets slightly less encouraging. You know, you're you're definitely winding

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Speaker 3: definitely it starts to get pretty marginal. And that's where

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Speaker 1: When Alimane was a boy, was he even aware that

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Speaker 1: you could have the job he has now? Was he

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Speaker 1: aware that this was a job and would he have

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Speaker 3: Lana uli dua kusu campunia wain dagi nah no campuni.

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Speaker 4: Not kazi kazi any.

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Speaker 2: Course your.

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Speaker 4: India like k.

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Speaker 3: So he had no idea. He didn't He didn't know

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Speaker 3: about this industry. He didn't know about the job. He

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Speaker 3: he only came to learn about it later when basically

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Speaker 3: when this company started in in Maswa, hunting there he

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Speaker 3: became aware of it, but yeah, all he knew was poaching.

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Speaker 1: And this is this might be an awkward question since

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Speaker 1: you guys worked together. But what does he like think

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Speaker 2: Does he like the job? Is it just a job?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: What's what's his take on it?

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Speaker 3: When when a pinda ka Sam, Yeah, he likes it

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Speaker 3: and he likes working with me. But he's just saying

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Speaker 1: Well I hope he knows. I want you to tell

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Speaker 1: him that I have every moment of watching those guys

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Speaker 1: work is like pure joy to me, Like I really like,

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Speaker 3: A semma an a pinda kazi sanaa Come.

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Speaker 2: I, he says, thank you very much. Tell him this.

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Speaker 1: I hang out like I know people my friends I

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Speaker 1: have I hang out with like very good hunters in America.

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Speaker 1: Unless there's snow, okay, unless there's snow on the ground.

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Speaker 1: For us, tracking is just that you can tell something

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Speaker 3: So I'm an sma and a jua watuwangihi medakani winda

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Speaker 3: palepia howskana come bilaluji ohi oh barau awas cut bisa.

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Speaker 2: Never never, unless there's snow our ways bisa, cut bisa.

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Speaker 2: And I think he would enjoy snow a great deal.

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Speaker 2: I think he'd hide it. I sema uh kona tluji

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Speaker 2: nina sema.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna pack up. Yep, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: how when do you call it?

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Speaker 2: Like, how do you like?

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Speaker 1: It's three third, it's gonna be three thirty pm, sun

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that's that's a hard question to answer.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of my prerogative. I would say, if we

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Speaker 2: Hang it up.

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Speaker 3: But in an ideal world, we'll find those things sleeping

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Speaker 3: and they'll have chilled out a good bit since that

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Speaker 1: And then last question, if we if let's say we

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Speaker 1: blow them out bad mhm tomorrow do we just forget

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily, Not necessarily, I like this area.

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Speaker 3: If we really, I mean, if we blow them out

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Speaker 3: then yeah, it's probably not worth coming back here. With

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Speaker 3: that being said, yesterday was four balls. You know, this

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Speaker 3: told the guys not to burn it, which was sort of.

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Speaker 1: We haven't gotten into the burning yet, and we need

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Speaker 1: to get into the burning and another dispatch.

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Speaker 2: But the burning is the greatest thing in the world.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's heavenly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, being able to just flick matches in the right

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Speaker 1: places and yeah, well it'd be like it's slow moving,

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Speaker 1: low intensity grass fires. Yeah, they don't damage the trees.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're out. Yeah, the old dead grass.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the decadent grass. A few days later, new grass

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Speaker 3: comes up. Yeah, I mean the burning really appeals to

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Speaker 1: It's a hell of a lot of fun, especially when

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Speaker 1: you when you look and it's like you make like

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Speaker 1: these perfect new grass.

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Speaker 2: Growth areas, and then there's animals. There's animals. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that helps them too. No no, it's super cool, very

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Speaker 2: like not destructive. No no, no, no, very restorative. Al Right,

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Speaker 2: it's you guys, ready to go. Let's do it.