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Speaker 2: makes up. And let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: We saw this this show, this podcast. We said, we
Speaker 1: want to interview people that are legend people that have
Speaker 1: paved the way. This man has arguably have one of
Speaker 1: the best hip hop videos of all times. I went
Speaker 1: and I researched it myself. I thought that Buster and
Speaker 1: Missy changed the video scene and I really realized that
Speaker 1: it wasn't there. It was this motherfucker. And not only that,
Speaker 1: There's something about the West that's right now happening. I
Speaker 1: mean the ogs, you know what I mean? The young gins,
Speaker 1: the middle people. This guy's a lyricists and lyricists. Man.
Speaker 1: I've been listening to his music for the for all
Speaker 1: these days, and one thing I know. Two things were certain.
Speaker 1: He is an alcoholic. On every one of his songs,
Speaker 1: he's talking about a fifth of something. This motherbugg is
Speaker 1: a real deal. He's an icon.
Speaker 2: He's a legend, tycoon. Our friends the.
Speaker 1: Learn on the show, yet alumni of the show.
Speaker 2: Oh when it.
Speaker 1: Comes to lyricis that's what's great about this man. This
Speaker 1: man can make a record that go to the globals,
Speaker 1: and he can make an underground underground people who respect them.
Speaker 1: He is the motherfucking one of the illess lyricists, one
Speaker 1: of the illest people, one of the illis legends in
Speaker 1: this game. I'm proud to have them on this goddamn show.
Speaker 1: You know that's you know what's so good about you?
Speaker 1: Like I We got to recently, hopefully this the interview
Speaker 1: is out by then, but we got to recently interview
Speaker 1: Dre and Snoop and was before I recognized you at
Speaker 1: the at the front row. One thing that I noticed
Speaker 1: is you have a trait that I have is no
Speaker 1: matter how much that we love this game. It doesn't
Speaker 1: take away from you being fans of other people.
Speaker 2: And I was seeing you.
Speaker 1: You had your phone up, I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, that's exactly how.
Speaker 1: Just because like like Buster or NADS or somebody's my friend,
Speaker 1: take away from me being a fan.
Speaker 2: And I love seeing you absolutely.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Listen, before I was an artist, I was a fan.
Speaker 3: I was I was a consumer. I would go and
Speaker 3: buy CDs, I will go listen to it. I would
Speaker 3: I would be excited about the release date.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'd be excited about my favorite artists coming out. And
Speaker 3: so now fast forward to be able to consider these
Speaker 3: people my peers, you know what I'm saying, To be
Speaker 3: able to you know, like really rock with them and
Speaker 3: they rock with me, and you know, it's just a
Speaker 3: surreal feeling. So yeah, you know that you guys kill
Speaker 3: that interview. You know I killed it. And so when
Speaker 3: when I when I was there, man and just seeing
Speaker 3: them two together, you know, you.
Speaker 1: Know what the funny part about that is, ah, it
Speaker 1: reminded me of me a compone a little bit, because like,
Speaker 1: no matter how much me a compone will be beefing
Speaker 1: or whatever, whatever. As soon as we get together in
Speaker 1: the same room, we just started laughing. Like when Snoop said,
Speaker 1: Snoop said, I left the studio because Drake came to
Speaker 1: the studio.
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, you're the only person.
Speaker 4: Say that, like I left the studio because Drake.
Speaker 2: Well, I understand that, because I don't understand that. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So it's Dre really like that studio.
Speaker 1: He's well, let me let me put this.
Speaker 2: Let me put this to a correct way.
Speaker 3: Dre is a master at his craft, and he expects
Speaker 3: a certain level of perfection if you understand what that means.
Speaker 3: And and and he we call him the guillotine because yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Because.
Speaker 1: We call him the guillotine because there's levels to it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: When he like you, when he likes you and he's
Speaker 3: and he's working with you, then he'll just be like,
Speaker 3: I don't believe you.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, you can do.
Speaker 1: Better than that.
Speaker 3: Like he like he'll say stuff like that, which is
Speaker 3: kind of like a bunch of the gut anyway. But
Speaker 3: I've seen him like turn the music down, and I've
Speaker 3: seen him get up and leave the room. When somebody
Speaker 3: is like not performing the way he wants to write,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So so I understand, like
Speaker 3: he says he don't like everything. He know, he don't
Speaker 3: like nothing, you know what I'm saying, Like he likes
Speaker 3: absolutely nothing. So so understood what Snoop said that. Yo,
Speaker 3: I just want to leave the room, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, because I didn't want him to come in
Speaker 3: there and say yes and that he wasn't instead of
Speaker 3: going there and just tell they start being a guillotine
Speaker 3: and start telling niggas here.
Speaker 2: Like he don't like none of it. But it's dope? Though?
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that because you know the one thing
Speaker 1: that I listen me being a vocalist, Nothing that comes
Speaker 1: out of that camp you guys are always sound so clear.
Speaker 5: But is it a sacrifice for that, like because because.
Speaker 1: You've got to do it fifteen million times? No?
Speaker 3: I mean, once you understand what he's looking for, did
Speaker 3: you kind of go there already?
Speaker 2: Okay? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Everybody comes in, Everybody kind of designs their style and
Speaker 3: their lyrics and all that stuff before they get in
Speaker 3: that room and they tune in to the way they
Speaker 3: like it, but when you get it in front of
Speaker 3: doctor Dre, he tunes it up in different frequencies. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's looking for something else. He don't care about the
Speaker 3: style and all that, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's part of it, but it's certain.
Speaker 2: It's certain frequencies that you got to hit.
Speaker 3: And so that's talking about with music, talking about with vocals,
Speaker 3: talk about with lyric content. All of that stuff has
Speaker 3: to be at an optimum level. So so once you
Speaker 3: understand that about him, then you start just understanding like
Speaker 3: how to get there. And sometimes you know, he'll, you know,
Speaker 3: he'll he'll go try something different because you don't want
Speaker 3: to start sounding the same all the time, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But that's how it is, you know.
Speaker 3: But when you rise to that level and you hit
Speaker 3: those marks, what comes out is a legacy, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like the longevity of the records, the
Speaker 3: staying power of old records.
Speaker 2: There's something about it.
Speaker 6: But the real question is how many records do you
Speaker 6: have with Dre that are in the stash that probably
Speaker 6: we never will have no idea because how much of
Speaker 6: a perfectioncy is.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. You got albums, Yeah, he's got what.
Speaker 2: Drake got a vault.
Speaker 3: They got a vault and it's basically like like folder
Speaker 3: after folder after folder after folder of songs that like
Speaker 3: we everybody in this room would go absolutely ape shit
Speaker 3: over these songs. But Dre is like, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, it's cool. Like motherfuckers, you would never think
Speaker 3: he worked with he's working with him, and he's like,
Speaker 3: he's like, why why don't.
Speaker 2: You put these?
Speaker 3: Like you you got like seventeen albums, twenty albums. He's like,
Speaker 3: ass cool, you know what I'm saying. And he don't
Speaker 3: do shit for money, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: he's got to feel it. He gotta believe it. He
Speaker 3: gotta feel it, you know what I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 3: when those records come out, you know.
Speaker 2: So let's take it to the beginning. Yeah, ah, was
Speaker 2: you started on Loud at first?
Speaker 1: Was it Loud? It was Loud Records was the first
Speaker 1: label I was on.
Speaker 2: Okay, so how.
Speaker 1: Did how did how did.
Speaker 3: You and Steve Rifkin hook up? Steve Rifkins signed The Alcoholics.
Speaker 3: Alcoholics were already on the label. They was the East
Speaker 3: Coast and the West Coast office. The Alcoholics were signed
Speaker 3: out of the West Coast office. And so I was
Speaker 3: rolling rolling around with King T the Alcoholics and kind
Speaker 3: of like just getting my feet wet as an artist
Speaker 3: at that time.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: Steve would I would always be in the office and
Speaker 3: I'll be working on.
Speaker 1: And and but you're a guest of the Alcoholics.
Speaker 2: They're already signed.
Speaker 3: They already signed at the time make Room, uh and
Speaker 3: King T Trifling album was out, and so that's who
Speaker 3: that's who I was running with. And so Steve Rifkin
Speaker 3: came to Prince's Club glam Slam.
Speaker 2: Prince had a glam slam everywhere.
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, Prince had like he just said it just
Speaker 1: came to Prince, just telling the Prince Club.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. But Prince Dill, No, he was
Speaker 3: not there, ain't hanging out with us. But it was
Speaker 3: dope because uh uh. He came in, was like we
Speaker 3: was about to go on stage and He's like, hey,
Speaker 3: I want to sign you because I had never made
Speaker 3: a demo. And he was telling yeah, yeah, Steve had
Speaker 3: long hair at this time, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, And he was like, you know, I want
Speaker 3: to sign you come to the office tomorrow, and that
Speaker 3: at the time, they don't have wh Tang yet two,
Speaker 3: no Big Punk, no Big Punk.
Speaker 6: Three six I think was already yet yet not yet.
Speaker 2: Coast was like sellers selling dwellers was over.
Speaker 3: There, and they were doing a lot of promotion too.
Speaker 3: It was like a promo like a.
Speaker 2: Streets the promotion.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: S r C was just getting launching at that time
Speaker 3: as well, damn. So that's how we that's how we
Speaker 3: linked up. So okay, Now.
Speaker 1: That's something that me and E f N always argue about, right,
Speaker 1: the independent label thing, right, but not even that before
Speaker 1: we go to that was it hard for you navigating
Speaker 1: being a West Coast artist on a predominantly East Coast.
Speaker 3: Motherfucking it was hard? Okay, man, the East those niggas hated.
Speaker 7: Us, just not feeling us.
Speaker 2: Like, let's just call it how we walked.
Speaker 1: Wait, so you're saying they wasn't feeling West Coast or
Speaker 1: they wasn't feeling anything that wasn't from the East.
Speaker 2: Coast, that wasn't from anything from California.
Speaker 1: Niggas. It was like you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: it was just in the eating.
Speaker 2: But listen. To be fair, the artist was fucking with us.
Speaker 1: It was the staff, it was it was the people.
Speaker 1: That's my opinion is, that's my thing is I always
Speaker 1: felt the West Coast.
Speaker 2: We would go down from us, we would go to
Speaker 2: New York and we would go out. Look.
Speaker 3: I remember taking the train to master Ace House, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying the first time, and the first
Speaker 3: time I fucking got to New York. He was like,
Speaker 3: you're gonna take the train by yourself. Yeah, get there,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So so I remember drinking forties,
Speaker 3: you know, on the stool, chilling outside, going to.
Speaker 2: Niggas blocks, you know what I'm saying. That was love.
Speaker 2: And when we're getting them buildings, it.
Speaker 3: Was like they were it was like it became like
Speaker 3: a it became like a friendly competition.
Speaker 2: Like everything from the East.
Speaker 3: Coast offer was to get all the big budgets and
Speaker 3: all that stuff, and they would give.
Speaker 2: Us the scraps and leftovers.
Speaker 3: So we's making miracles out of absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That we were just really banging on the fact that
Speaker 3: like people were feeling the music, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like when I first came out. I didn't sound like
Speaker 3: a traditional West Coast artists. No, you were very lirical, right,
Speaker 3: People thought I.
Speaker 2: Was from New York. Yes, I did you know.
Speaker 6: La underground scene that crew everybody, you guys, And for.
Speaker 1: Lack of a better term, at that time, we didn't
Speaker 1: really understand that there's lyricists just as much as on
Speaker 1: the East Coast as even more because you know, the
Speaker 1: forefront people were in w A and other than ice
Speaker 1: Cube and mc wren. It wasn't really like you know,
Speaker 1: the lyrical thing.
Speaker 3: But but I think, I think what was happening was
Speaker 3: we had to find our own identity.
Speaker 1: There was it was after the right after the death.
Speaker 3: Road gfunk Era, and we had to find our own identity,
Speaker 3: meaning that my graduating class, like it was Crooked Eye,
Speaker 3: it was me Ras, it was Severee rest in peace man,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And and uh you know
Speaker 3: it was it was like a club called Unity where
Speaker 3: all of us would go and like you know, that's
Speaker 3: what we first saw.
Speaker 2: Wu Tang performed like Bigger B was a.
Speaker 3: And R my A and R in loud Wow, and
Speaker 3: he did a club called Unity, and so he had
Speaker 3: the plug for every artist in all the offices. He
Speaker 3: would bring him out there to do shows. So then
Speaker 3: it became a theme like okay, so I want to
Speaker 3: open up at unity and that's where all of all
Speaker 3: of us used to like cut our teeth and get
Speaker 3: in front of the crowds and be able to build our audience.
Speaker 2: But that's where it started.
Speaker 1: So so let me ask him bouncing around a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's been known, right, it's been known that lyricists people
Speaker 1: that's really really really lyricists, right, they get the short
Speaker 1: end of the stick. But then at some point it
Speaker 1: was like doctor Dre started messing with lyricists like like
Speaker 1: you you know, you know, so on and so forth
Speaker 1: and Marshall you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, other
Speaker 1: than that, because I believe they used to call a backpack,
Speaker 1: right yeah, blackrap back background. Right, So when did when
Speaker 1: did a transition from going Because we had re search
Speaker 1: on here the other day, right, and I'm bugging off
Speaker 1: of EMC search because he's like, he's like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: didn't want to take commercials, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: generation fucked up, yeah, like why do you want extra money?
Speaker 1: But back then it was frowned upon. That was considered
Speaker 1: selling out. So when was it that backpack hip hop
Speaker 1: started to merge with commercial hip hop or not commercial
Speaker 1: hip hop, global hip hop to forty hip hop, and
Speaker 1: then they made this marriage like you know.
Speaker 2: Like you like you, you want.
Speaker 1: Very much benefited off of you know, your affiliation with that.
Speaker 2: But when did that happen? Like I think I think once.
Speaker 3: Once corporate America started putting millions and millions of dollars
Speaker 3: into hip hop, right, it wasn't frowned upon anymore because
Speaker 3: I think when you look at like mc hammer, nobody
Speaker 3: gives in mc hammer the flowers he deserves. And if
Speaker 3: you think about it, he got a lot of shit
Speaker 3: for doing exactly what everybody's doing next.
Speaker 2: Right now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And so he was ahead of his time in that
Speaker 3: aspect as a businessman. But once corporate America started putting
Speaker 3: a lot of money in into it, I think that
Speaker 3: became the focus. It used to be about Okay, who
Speaker 3: got style, who got craft, who got skilled? Then it
Speaker 3: was like okay, who got millions? Who got cars? Who
Speaker 3: got houses? You know what I'm saying. And then once
Speaker 3: that started kind of merging and becoming you know, like
Speaker 3: murking that you know, dirty in the waters a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think people started.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't have to I don't have to
Speaker 3: have skill as long as I'm successful and I have money.
Speaker 2: Everybody was a little I don't have to, I don't have.
Speaker 1: To begin everybody.
Speaker 6: The backpack thing didn't come to like the super underground,
Speaker 6: the Ruckus era where they started to really label people Backpa.
Speaker 1: You said everybody was a lyricist. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say everybody was a liberal. That was the aspiration everyone
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 2: Everybody know the deals were made.
Speaker 6: Whoever was the illis lyricist Jay Big come on, big
Speaker 6: l everybody.
Speaker 1: Got you gotta look at easy. Easy wasn't considered the
Speaker 1: lyricists busy.
Speaker 2: No, not everybody. But I'm saying that.
Speaker 6: Most artists, mostly MC's, wanted to be lyricists caras ones
Speaker 6: like it was from the beginning the backpack thing. To
Speaker 6: attach that to lyricism started with the Ruckus Underground, that underground.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you some real ship. This is real
Speaker 1: ship for me, this is my own ship. When my
Speaker 1: first album, Worried Port is lyric cool, very cool, all.
Speaker 2: That kid no bitness came to my conference man, no.
Speaker 8: Women got you here today. I'm not sure about that, sir.
Speaker 8: Like you know, look, tell you something.
Speaker 1: I used to do shows in Germany and all the
Speaker 1: women will come and their sneakers will be the worst
Speaker 1: sneakers I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Like they was just stopping, like somebody just stop. Sneakers
Speaker 2: can't go on five? Like that's hip, that's underground hip.
Speaker 3: When I tell you what, No, I'll tell you what, man,
Speaker 3: when you put up that, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's what I wi conversion, I left the hook, yeah, coniversary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but in my mind I was going.
Speaker 3: Them records came on like like like motherfucking planets.
Speaker 1: But let's let's tell these people because you know, we
Speaker 1: interview comedians sometimes comedians talking about the chitpling circuit, like
Speaker 1: when you're coming up. A lot of people don't know
Speaker 1: understanding about that underground circuit when you got to go
Speaker 1: perform at s Obs for the rest for all the
Speaker 1: clubs all over the world, and these guys are.
Speaker 2: They are there at eight o'clock.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I never I never. I was never
Speaker 3: a radio guy. It was never the top forty guy.
Speaker 2: I was never.
Speaker 3: I was never the okay, he's he's you know bill
Speaker 3: Board this.
Speaker 2: And all that.
Speaker 3: My bread and butter came from doing the underground circuit
Speaker 3: and whooping ass on the shows. You know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying that like live performances, like like one of the
Speaker 3: big things in our campus. You you you must sound
Speaker 3: on stage like you do on the record. If you
Speaker 3: up there yelling and screaming and it just sounds like
Speaker 3: you're just yelling over the track or or something I
Speaker 3: hate now is like when when I see artists perform.
Speaker 2: With the vocals in your face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it can't, it can't. Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Just something about it's just something about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it's not even cheating it.
Speaker 1: It's lazy.
Speaker 2: It's lazy. It's lazy.
Speaker 3: And you could tell that they don't take pride in
Speaker 3: that work, you know what I'm saying, Like, you're not rehearsing,
Speaker 3: you're not giving a you don't even care about this.
Speaker 1: Is that the reason why we had TV tracks back
Speaker 1: in the days, remember the TV track, because those just
Speaker 1: had to add that list cook and the hook, especially
Speaker 1: if it's a singing hook.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You want to be able to give that experience to
Speaker 3: the audience, but them vocals that you you are on stage,
Speaker 3: so you have to produce those vocals, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's the way it is.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, what's the best toy you ever
Speaker 1: been on?
Speaker 6: Up?
Speaker 2: And I knew he was going to say that.
Speaker 1: I bet on myself say that.
Speaker 3: And listen that that that necessarily wasn't the biggest or
Speaker 3: longest tour I've been on, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: It was all together? Would it represented at the time
Speaker 3: to the culture and what it felt like, you know,
Speaker 3: being on the stage with with those guys. Like I
Speaker 3: said before, I had been like truly a fan of
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and truly like inspired by
Speaker 3: to be able to get up on that stage, to
Speaker 3: be considered one of them, and then be able to
Speaker 3: you know, go through that whole process and then be
Speaker 3: able to come out with an album that I, you know,
Speaker 3: in a million years, would have never thought I could
Speaker 3: come out with, you know, and just have that experience.
Speaker 3: Upper Smoke was like the last It was crazy.
Speaker 1: I was watching from the TV, like, man, I like
Speaker 1: you went everywhere too? No, no, no, it was just
Speaker 1: the United States. Oh wow, Yeah, I don't think Dre
Speaker 1: has ever done like a European tour. Wow. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: imagine that. That'd be crazy. So I'm gonna switch it
Speaker 1: up a little bit, okay, because I realized that you
Speaker 1: got one of the best hip hop shoutouts in the world.
Speaker 2: But it's a little bit bad. I'm gonna tell you why.
Speaker 1: Okay, zip it is in that club rolling all that
Speaker 1: weed up.
Speaker 5: Now everybody sees you. Gotta be rolling the weed absolutely,
Speaker 5: And that's the one thing about this job, Like.
Speaker 1: Whenever I come out, someone e would see me and
Speaker 1: be like shot and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Yes, and they don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: People always come up to you and be like, let's
Speaker 1: smoke one.
Speaker 3: Sometimes literally I'm smoking sody.
Speaker 2: So so, but did that ever burden you?
Speaker 3: No, man, I thought it was dope, man, because when
Speaker 3: fifty shadowed me out, I didn't know it until, you know,
Speaker 3: like a couple of days before it actually came out.
Speaker 3: Oh so you heard it at the same time people
Speaker 3: heard that. Okay, wow, yeah, so that was dope man.
Speaker 3: And then you know, to be name checked on one
Speaker 3: of the biggest songs ever, it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 2: That changed.
Speaker 1: That changed, that changed the trajectory of of the landscape
Speaker 1: of that whole generation, because it's the first time you
Speaker 1: had an East Coast guy riming on the straight West
Speaker 1: Coast B. There's no way in the club can be
Speaker 1: described as an East Coast B or South beat. You know,
Speaker 1: that's the West Club. But the Firm was first. The
Speaker 1: Firm was first. That's why I made Drake.
Speaker 2: I made Drake take his.
Speaker 1: His was first. Man, let me take you something. When
Speaker 1: Roster sent me the clip, but I don't know what
Speaker 1: time you send the clip.
Speaker 2: You send the clip to the group chat right and
Speaker 2: for the sleep. So I was so happy.
Speaker 1: I woke up at four o'clock in the morning and
Speaker 1: I sent it to that I said, I finally got
Speaker 1: Dre to say that he shouldn't have said the Firm flop.
Speaker 2: In my mind because.
Speaker 1: He just said I he said yes, but my mind
Speaker 1: he said it.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, because.
Speaker 1: That that album, that Firm, and that's the first time
Speaker 1: You're right, I got to see East Coasters and West
Speaker 1: And you gotta remember that that album came out so
Speaker 1: dope because God bless, it was after Big and Tupac. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So everybody the smoke was
Speaker 1: in the air and everybody was trying to put it
Speaker 1: back together.
Speaker 6: So that album single handedly didn't Dre do the one
Speaker 6: joint that caress and now it was the East West
Speaker 6: Coast one right right when he launched Aftermath, he did
Speaker 6: a joint.
Speaker 2: It might have been on that Aftermath Presents album. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: not sure, I think so.
Speaker 6: I think that's when when you start to see him
Speaker 6: like dabbling something having like Kris one and I forget.
Speaker 2: Who a couple other who be real?
Speaker 1: Be real? And what you drink?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna drink of sprits. I take some forty two man, Okay,
Speaker 2: forty two.
Speaker 1: Okay, goddamn god, damn forty two. Look, let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. Let me tell you something. We've been doing
Speaker 1: this for years. So my favorite thing to do is
Speaker 1: to check the artists drink order. Whenever I see somebody
Speaker 1: order two different things, you ordered gin and.
Speaker 2: Then think it is rat iron.
Speaker 1: Good. Yes, So lets let's talk about the alcoholics and
Speaker 1: you guys relationship in the beginning. So, how did y'all
Speaker 1: link up? I linked up with school. No, there was
Speaker 1: a group.
Speaker 3: There was a there was a group of producers called
Speaker 3: three sixty James Broadway was the producer for King T,
Speaker 3: and so I was in the same area. I got
Speaker 3: introduced to Broadway through a guy named Top. Top was
Speaker 3: actually going to act as a manager. He was managing
Speaker 3: Volume ten a couple other guys, and he was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: I want to I want to work with you. So
Speaker 3: he took me to Broadway. Broadway introduced me to King T.
Speaker 3: King T introduced me to the Alcoholics.
Speaker 1: Wow, and then and then how did y'all develop the relationship?
Speaker 1: I was just those were the first cast that I
Speaker 1: was off the street named the Alcoholics at the time. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: well given back then.
Speaker 3: Back then King T created the group and so and
Speaker 3: so that's when that's when I got introduced to them.
Speaker 3: And they was the first artist that I knew that
Speaker 3: had real record deals, you know, because I was I
Speaker 3: was just off the block at that time. And so
Speaker 3: when I started hanging out with them, I was like
Speaker 3: learning how to write sixteens learning how to write, you know.
Speaker 3: I was just in the lab kind of like honing
Speaker 3: my craft with them. And so from there, I you know,
Speaker 3: I would just go everywhere with him, and I would
Speaker 3: do I would do ship like I would go to
Speaker 3: the swap meet and make my own alcoholic T shirts
Speaker 3: if we had a show, and.
Speaker 2: Then I would make I do I make gas mask bongs?
Speaker 2: I used to.
Speaker 3: I used to get a bong and before they started
Speaker 3: making them, I would get like like shipping attached the
Speaker 3: hose to the mad gas mask and then take hits
Speaker 3: on stage and fucking it was crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we were doing.
Speaker 6: A lot that King T was already yeah you know
Speaker 6: OG at that time, so it must have been like
Speaker 6: crazy to roll with him.
Speaker 3: So it was like everybody has a OG and King
Speaker 3: T is ours.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I still kicking with King T very closely to
Speaker 3: this day. It's one of my closest friends, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, I got a lot of respect for what
Speaker 3: he's done for me and and he gave me my
Speaker 3: first shot.
Speaker 2: King T dead right, let me ask you, because listening.
Speaker 1: This morning, broking out listening to your music, and all
Speaker 1: of us like secretly tried to quit walk on the low, right,
Speaker 1: It's just like it just jumps out of you, right,
Speaker 1: Like it's just like.
Speaker 2: You just can't help it.
Speaker 1: Right, But I feel like the white people that says nigga,
Speaker 1: like when no one's around like I feel like God.
Speaker 2: Because I know I'm not doing it right.
Speaker 1: Like I know I'm not doing it, so I look
Speaker 1: around and like it can look a lot like river
Speaker 1: dancing if you don't do it. I know, sure, I know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe. I asked Drea Snoop this and I believe
Speaker 1: they answer it was it was the boogie dance. But
Speaker 1: what is it about that West Coast sound that just
Speaker 1: makes you just want to smack you for the fucking
Speaker 1: sneakers and.
Speaker 2: Just get low. It's bi talk.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I love it, I just can't do it. I
Speaker 1: just can't do it. It's strictly built out of tradition.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 3: It's like these things that come from our neighborhoods, your neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: I mean, like these are things.
Speaker 3: That are done from like a real genuine roots based
Speaker 3: culture based, you know, initiative. And so you know, crip
Speaker 3: walking is definitely and and and blood walking is definitely
Speaker 3: from fucking neighborhood. Like that ship that is you know
Speaker 3: that that wouldn't always It's not a dance. It's like
Speaker 3: if you don't know who I am, this is what's happening.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like they are actually spelling something, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of people, do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it evolves, you know, from from the
Speaker 3: time like when you see what dove C was doing
Speaker 3: on a smoke toward video, which is infamous, and then
Speaker 3: it's it's just changed as you know, as as as
Speaker 3: as the kids grow up and they put their own
Speaker 3: little twist on it. So now there's a whole lot
Speaker 3: of you know, feet going.
Speaker 1: Out in side ways and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the elbowl is moving a little differently, right, but I
Speaker 1: mean it's still you know, you know what you're looking
Speaker 1: at when you see it, right, Okay, So I gotta
Speaker 1: ask you, Okay, I'm going actually to be as freely
Speaker 1: as you can. When it's Drake and Kendrick thing first started.
Speaker 1: Drake is the biggest artist in the world. I believe
Speaker 1: Kendrick took a shot first, right, I believe for mother
Speaker 1: fuck the Big Three. I mean, this is not this
Speaker 1: is mag me. But Kendrick has been known for this.
Speaker 2: No, but they've been going back and forth.
Speaker 1: No. No, but remember Kendrick went at the whole New York
Speaker 1: At one point he was like He's like, I'm Frank White,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick in New York right, Like course this
Speaker 1: whole controversy, but this time, this is something kind of
Speaker 1: really really, really really different. Right. Did you understand what
Speaker 1: Kendrick was doing from the beginning or this was something
Speaker 1: that after you saw it, he was like, I mean, look, look, dude,
Speaker 1: you have to look.
Speaker 3: You have to take a step back first, because you
Speaker 3: don't know what's happening behind the scenes. Always something happening
Speaker 3: behind the scenes that we're not aware of. It's spilled
Speaker 3: over into something else. But here's what I will say
Speaker 3: about that. I think Kendrick Lamar is a very special individual.
Speaker 3: I think he is a deep thinker. I think he
Speaker 3: is a big part of what is unifying and energizing
Speaker 3: the West Coast right now. And I think I think
Speaker 3: he was severely underestimated. And uh, when you look at
Speaker 3: the parable of David and Goliath and you see, you
Speaker 3: know somebody who's you know, very you know, dismissive or
Speaker 3: very arrogant or very you know, feeling like you know,
Speaker 3: because Drake wasn't talking the way he's talking now at
Speaker 3: the beginning. But when Kendrick wasn't saying nothing. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It was just like, you know, it
Speaker 3: was very funny. It was very poking holes. And he
Speaker 3: did the Tupac thing, Yeah, doing the doing the two
Speaker 3: poc Ai thing. You know, you talk about feeling disrespect,
Speaker 3: I mean the whole coast. We love Tupac. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. The world loved Tupac. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know what, I've never asked that question. So when
Speaker 1: Drake sampled, I want to say sampled a right. So
Speaker 1: Kendrick's line was, you think the coast is gonna let
Speaker 1: you disrespect poligga? I think that Oakland show might be
Speaker 1: your last stop. You're telling me that that's how people
Speaker 1: really took it.
Speaker 2: Like he took.
Speaker 3: He took some liberties with that. And look, dude, I
Speaker 3: got no dog in this fight. But but but but yeah,
Speaker 3: but but the West Coast is where I'm at, and
Speaker 3: that's what's up, you know what I'm saying. And so
Speaker 3: Kendrick is is definitely ruling the pack, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And he's he's and he's he's setting the
Speaker 3: tone and so you know, yeah, I just think that
Speaker 3: what we're seeing now is yeah, yeah, what we're seeing
Speaker 3: now is the repercussions of of of stepping on somebody
Speaker 3: that you shouldn't have stepped to. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like they're not even in the same class. You know,
Speaker 3: in my opinion, Drake should have just put out a
Speaker 3: fucking massive hit for the women and went on about
Speaker 3: his business.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You're saying like, yeah, yeah, after after the first shot,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But Pride is a motherfucker.
Speaker 3: He goos a motherfucker. He kept going.
Speaker 1: At one point, I was coming downstairs smoke weed and
Speaker 1: it was like another Drake records drop and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: And I felt at that point, at that time, I
Speaker 1: felt Drake was being the bully. This before Kendrick had
Speaker 1: dropped anything. I think a lot of people forget that time.
Speaker 1: Remember when he just kept dropping him and they both
Speaker 1: did that. Christler three hundred looked like a bigley until Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you see that motherfucker. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie as I knew Kendrick was ill. I
Speaker 1: knew Kendrick was the man. I knew Kendrick can hold
Speaker 1: it down. I didn't know Kendrick. I didn't know.
Speaker 2: You didn't know Kendrick was a scientist.
Speaker 1: I did not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's playing chess.
Speaker 1: No, no, because let me because I'm on hip hop'
Speaker 1: not downgrade myself like that. I just didn't know to
Speaker 1: the extent that he went. Because I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 1: this new album, what is it in NHL? I said,
Speaker 1: n H nasrand National.
Speaker 2: I first heard.
Speaker 1: It and then I was like, damn, man, it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like he's having fun, right And then oh, no,
Speaker 1: this is absolutely fun. It was an l A guy there.
Speaker 1: It was the l A guy there, big up d
Speaker 1: on and the all was like, nah, man, we just
Speaker 1: have fun a little bit different from y'all. And I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, cool, and I will listen to
Speaker 1: it the next day. And I understood, like it really
Speaker 1: it literally took somebody from Why didn't I think he
Speaker 1: was having because I just felt like he was dealing
Speaker 1: with survivors with more so I didn't feel like he
Speaker 1: was like enjoying the moment. I had to hear it again.
Speaker 1: I had to hear it again. When I heard it
Speaker 1: the second and the third time, then I was like, oh, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's enjoying the moment, but he's enjoying it in his way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you look, I don't hang around with Kendrick.
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna claim to be in his circle.
Speaker 3: Circle is tight, I know, I know, you know, my
Speaker 3: my uh my, my family works with him. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, it's really dope to see him
Speaker 3: have his own lane, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 3: do it the way he's doing it like, but still
Speaker 3: have the full backing of everybody that came to form
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, that's fucking dope. And and
Speaker 3: and he don't he's inclusive. When you see some cast
Speaker 3: stick that's young and they come up and they just
Speaker 3: dismiss everybody, they gonna fucking they fuck the fuck that nigga,
Speaker 3: fuck him, fuck everybody's me and all this ship. And
Speaker 3: I think that's what we saw, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like like Drake, Drake was you know, damn near number
Speaker 3: one for decade if more, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And and he felt untouchable.
Speaker 3: So it's it's very it's very it's very dope to
Speaker 3: see you know, Kendrick come to his own and I'm pretty.
Speaker 1: Sure he was pushed in a lot of ways from
Speaker 1: that situation. But to see what he turned into and
Speaker 1: to see what he represents and what he means to
Speaker 1: us on the cars, it's fantastic. It's do you know
Speaker 1: what the crazy shit is? I'm bouncing around, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make it makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But one about favorite shows on TV is a show
Speaker 1: called The Sha. Right. The only thing that's missing in
Speaker 1: the Sha is on My Homegirl Lena with I always
Speaker 1: tell her, I'm like, yo, man, you got the only
Speaker 1: city of Chicago without load of Latinos? Right, Like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm fucking Latino. Like, I can't just look at Chicago
Speaker 1: without again. One thing about me being on the West Coast,
Speaker 1: and obviously I've been going to the West Coast since
Speaker 1: nineteenninety seven. When I would go to Snoop shows on
Speaker 1: your show, I wouldn't see you your show's difference, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean to me, just put dazz and corrupt. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't see a lot of Latinos. You know what changed
Speaker 1: it was Nipsey Hustle. Nippy Hustle. I went to a
Speaker 1: Nipty hustle. I snuck into another. But I think I
Speaker 1: told you this, Oh, I said it on the show.
Speaker 1: I went to a Nipsey Hustle concerts. I didn't hit him.
Speaker 1: I wanted to pay to get in. I wanted to look.
Speaker 1: I wanted to see how this West Coast shit feel,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying without being Norri right,
Speaker 1: And it was the first time I seemed but I
Speaker 1: didn't know what I was seeing. Snoop explained to me
Speaker 1: that you saw that again on stage. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that Kendrick from all these gangs together, Like, how remarkable.
Speaker 2: Is that that? That was?
Speaker 3: That was the tipping point right when he did that
Speaker 3: Pop our concert and Dre went out there and all
Speaker 3: them neighborhoods came out there see stage, because we.
Speaker 1: Want you to explain this in it's entity in depth.
Speaker 1: Us on the East Coast we looking thinking these are
Speaker 1: artists that although they might be artists, but we didn't
Speaker 1: we're not understanding that they represent different gags. There was
Speaker 1: some artists up there.
Speaker 3: There were some artists, but there was some very important
Speaker 3: people to the street up there. I usually don't really
Speaker 3: be standing next to each other, right, And I think
Speaker 3: it just really it really set the tone for what's
Speaker 3: what's coming next. So everybody saw that shit and was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 3: we ain't had this before in the West.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 6: We ain't had this before, maybe slightly during the peace treaty.
Speaker 2: No, it be pieces.
Speaker 3: It be pieces of the West coming together, still excluding
Speaker 3: some of these parts because the past things that happened,
Speaker 3: or just like that's just how things have been. But
Speaker 3: when that happened, a lot of shit got pushed to
Speaker 3: the side and was like, Okay, you know what, let's
Speaker 3: unite around this w Let's unite around this genius that
Speaker 3: is this doing this phenomenal work. And you know, look,
Speaker 3: we can beef internally, but to the rest of the world, unified, like,
Speaker 3: we haven't had that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I loved that about y'all. Iced T brought that up
Speaker 1: to me, I think said, listen, he said, you know,
Speaker 1: us West Coast people got beef because you in the industry. Motherfucker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like, do you think about it? Our beasts be between us.
Speaker 1: And that was so mad that I see because he
Speaker 1: was right.
Speaker 6: It's like word like if they beefing, if you want
Speaker 6: an industry, the average person, you say, the average.
Speaker 1: Person, like like like that California love for for for
Speaker 1: black Bird, that ships.
Speaker 3: It's just like it's just like you when your parents
Speaker 3: used to say, don't act crazy in front of company.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, That's just what it is.
Speaker 3: It's like sometimes that's just spill over into the street.
Speaker 3: But for the most for the most part, like especially now,
Speaker 3: Cat's got a different agenda. We want to see the
Speaker 3: w go, you know what I'm saying. And and and
Speaker 3: that's why you see Q coming. That's why you see
Speaker 3: you know Snoop Dogg coming, That's why I'm coming, you know.
Speaker 2: And what's also do I.
Speaker 6: Think that I don't think people are mentioning as much
Speaker 6: about Kendrick his movement that he brought North Cali into
Speaker 6: the fold. It's not just LA, it's all of California.
Speaker 2: What are you saying about it?
Speaker 6: Like the Bay Area and those artists just considered the
Speaker 6: North area the South.
Speaker 2: Okay together geographics. Yeah I know that, kid, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: but but you're absolutely correct.
Speaker 6: Even with the sound and the album, there's a song
Speaker 6: it's like, to me, does the Sonic that's the Bay
Speaker 6: Area right there?
Speaker 2: But that's all West Coast.
Speaker 3: You just when people say West Coast, they just think.
Speaker 2: Of l A.
Speaker 3: You think of Southton, you know what I'm saying, Long
Speaker 3: Beach like, like that's not just the coast goes all
Speaker 3: the way up to Canada. So when you when you
Speaker 3: look at, when you look to when you look at
Speaker 3: you know the bay and what they represent like and
Speaker 3: then it's always been separate there too, Southern California Northern California,
Speaker 3: two different planets. But now it's just thing like the
Speaker 3: W everybody, the W everybody and and and it feels
Speaker 3: dope to be able to see you know, e forty
Speaker 3: do the opening for the pop up, and it's like
Speaker 3: the inclusion of it. It just feels so we just
Speaker 3: we're feeling.
Speaker 1: Strong right now because I felt like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry bounce over the place, but like like New York,
Speaker 1: we've always had Long Island, and we've always had Yonkers
Speaker 1: and Jersey, which technically isn't New York, but it is
Speaker 1: New York, you understand I'm saying. So I felt like
Speaker 1: that moment for y'all, like it was like every part
Speaker 1: of the coast and not only that, I mean I
Speaker 1: was going to say up the state, but not only that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: run the coast together. That's what's crazy. You know what's
Speaker 1: crazy about West Coast culture. If you actually pay attention,
Speaker 1: you guys don't got to promote to the South or
Speaker 1: the East at all. You guys could just promote in
Speaker 1: the West and you'll be good. Well, here's the thing, Sacramento.
Speaker 1: The number Remember when according to the numbers, remember when
Speaker 1: hip hop was super regional. When you look at the
Speaker 1: no limit, I'm going to say, you look at and
Speaker 1: you look at and you.
Speaker 3: Look at uh and you look at a cash money
Speaker 3: and then and then even here, you know, in in
Speaker 3: in Miami, you you look at the sound that was
Speaker 3: coming out of here, that that graduated from DJ Magic
Speaker 3: Mike and into you know, Luke in two Live Crew,
Speaker 3: in the Poison Clan, into all these other things that
Speaker 3: was coming. They had their own sound, so it was regional.
Speaker 3: So once the West Coast you know, had their sound
Speaker 3: and it didn't we didn't feel like we needed to
Speaker 3: copy anyone. Right, So when the South rose, and you know,
Speaker 3: after after the outcast said the South got something to say,
Speaker 3: and then absolutely they came and dominated everything in the
Speaker 3: industry and they had their sound.
Speaker 1: We been fucked up ever since he said that.
Speaker 3: I think it's dope because it gave us time to
Speaker 3: kind of like see where things needed to go. And
Speaker 3: I just liked the fact that we're not changing our sound,
Speaker 3: we just doing it at a at a different pace,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So let me let me, let me, let me ask you.
Speaker 1: There was three different eras of West Coast Rain right
Speaker 1: that literally had me scared. One literally one when I
Speaker 1: heard it straight out of Compton. I always say this.
Speaker 1: I always though it straight out of content.
Speaker 2: It was a jail. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I was, yeah, because the way they were describe it
Speaker 5: straight up the comment, I'm like, I don't want a
Speaker 5: good k lock up there, right, I was, obviously.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So but then it was that death row everywhere,
Speaker 1: all of y'all just you know, that upper smoke toil.
Speaker 1: And now it seems like it's the resurgence. But the
Speaker 1: good thing about it is it's not just the young generation,
Speaker 1: it's not just the middle generation.
Speaker 2: It's for Dre Snoop for you to be.
Speaker 1: Dropping like like how how how good does that feel?
Speaker 1: Because and you know what's good? We know what's dope
Speaker 1: about you, Dre and Snoop is y'all could actually k
Speaker 1: this to.
Speaker 2: Your own audience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all don't got to sell to these new motherfuckers
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: But how good is this feeled?
Speaker 3: It feels really good to be able to be dropping
Speaker 3: music in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Five and not compromise.
Speaker 3: That's right, you know what I'm saying, Like, I see
Speaker 3: what's going going on out there. I see what's I see.
Speaker 3: I try to, you know, keep my ear to the street.
Speaker 3: A lot of that ship I can't listen to, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, simply because you know, I'm a
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a professional.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I want to hear people be professional. I don't like
Speaker 3: I don't like hearing ship out of the pocket. I
Speaker 3: don't like hearing rappers not on beat. I don't I
Speaker 3: don't like hearing lazy ass nothing ass rhymes.
Speaker 1: I want to know something, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I want to hear something. Listen.
Speaker 3: I've seen her, you know what I'm saying, and look
Speaker 3: from where she started to where she is now, it's
Speaker 3: pretty fucking amazing. But you know what I'm saying, but
Speaker 3: but I'm not gonna take nothing away from It's just
Speaker 3: it's just not my style, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 3: like you know, I see everybody you know doing the
Speaker 3: pussy hole brown and all whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, where was react? Where the was at?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna take that
Speaker 3: from her book, But I just prefer something else, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And so, like I said, it
Speaker 3: goes back to what we're doing now.
Speaker 2: When we go in remember where we was that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we go we're talking about how does it
Speaker 3: feel now to be dropping music and and and man
Speaker 3: it feels great. But I didn't have to compromise. I
Speaker 3: can come out with what I want to do. I
Speaker 3: don't need to compete with what's out now right now.
Speaker 3: I just need to do what I do really well,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And I think that once
Speaker 3: you have that that that fixture. I think I heard
Speaker 3: Rick Rubins say that if you start making music for
Speaker 3: people other than yourself, then you already lost or something
Speaker 3: to that effect.
Speaker 2: Well, think about it.
Speaker 1: I'm sure your first album, just like as Mine's, you
Speaker 1: made it for your block, did you made Okay.
Speaker 3: I did my first album not knowing, you know, knowing
Speaker 3: I wanted to be different, but not necessarily knowing how
Speaker 3: to get there or convey that. You know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying on this record, on the key Maker record, out
Speaker 3: of all of them, make.
Speaker 2: On the on the Keen Maker record.
Speaker 3: I feel like I tell everybody after we listen to it,
Speaker 3: that I found my voice, you know, not the inflection
Speaker 3: of it, not the use of it, or the tone
Speaker 3: or the pitch. I found out what I'm supposed to
Speaker 3: be saying and how I'm supposed to be saying it,
Speaker 3: you know, because I'm speaking from a place of power,
Speaker 3: I'm speaking from a place of endurance. I'm speaking from
Speaker 3: a place of you know, just longevity, maturity and the
Speaker 3: man maturity and growth.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about the same shit I
Speaker 3: was talking about on my first three albums, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like there's a lot of shit that's
Speaker 3: happened between that then and now, and so like that's
Speaker 3: what I'm speaking on and I'm speaking to it in
Speaker 3: a place that makes me feel good, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But really quick listening to the album.
Speaker 6: What I will tell you is, damn hear hearing the music,
Speaker 6: it sounded like the old U updated. That's what I
Speaker 6: want to say that as a compliment, that's.
Speaker 2: What I want to head on.
Speaker 1: So I don't want you. I don't want I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do want a new X, but I
Speaker 1: want the old sounding right now.
Speaker 2: You will not be disappointed. And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like it to me.
Speaker 2: I haven't put out a record since twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: You let my guy in. Yeah, the gate is locked.
Speaker 3: I haven't put a record out since twenty twelve. And
Speaker 3: so now the way this music has come across, like bro,
Speaker 3: I feel like everything that's needed to be done for
Speaker 3: the exhibit brand has been done on this record.
Speaker 1: Musically we got yes, okay, goddamn makes no noise for that.
Speaker 1: Do you do you play poker?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: You can't never play poker.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you because no, no poker, because he's
Speaker 1: a poker pok Poka. Because every time I know when
Speaker 1: you're about to say something good, I just.
Speaker 2: I see it too. I can't hide this.
Speaker 1: Ship I ever think of that.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get you.
Speaker 3: No, I got some real bucket list moments on this record. Okay,
Speaker 3: you know, Dre mentioned to you guys that we had
Speaker 3: just did a song for the album. He's featured on
Speaker 3: it with Ti Dollar Sign. Swiss Beast did the track
Speaker 3: with co production from him. And uh, there's a man
Speaker 3: a question his minute.
Speaker 2: I got the question. What label is this one?
Speaker 3: It's on green Back Records. Green Back Records is Connor
Speaker 3: McGregor's label.
Speaker 2: How did that have? How did that connection?
Speaker 1: You got ta yes, yes, How to check this out?
Speaker 1: I need to hear this. Okay, So, so did.
Speaker 2: You take a shot?
Speaker 1: A shot?
Speaker 2: Take a shot? I'm sorry I'm talking because, by the way.
Speaker 1: That is like some dope ship to say, like you're
Speaker 1: gonna trip, I'm gonna do it. That's friss. Yeah, play
Speaker 1: for the Okay, yeah, yeah, that's not a shot.
Speaker 2: Okay, but AGAHD, let's just way Okay.
Speaker 3: So we're finishing up the record and shout out to
Speaker 3: Bobby D Presents that's my management company, and uh, and
Speaker 3: we were finishing up the album. We were putting it.
Speaker 3: We were putting all the finishing touches, bells, and paid
Speaker 3: for all this. Yeah, okay, all the album. We didn't
Speaker 3: this was not done with the label. So the album
Speaker 3: was being finished, and then we started talking about how
Speaker 3: we're going to release this, and I went and looked
Speaker 3: at you. I mean, I see what Russell was doing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: shout out to lou Russell. I saw you know, I
Speaker 3: know Empires, I know all you know, big up Gazi,
Speaker 3: I know we had, you know, and then you have
Speaker 3: the actual major labels.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like, we explored every single one and kind of just
Speaker 3: kind of sat back and was like, no, what's right?
Speaker 3: So what's right for the this project that we have?
Speaker 3: Who's going to do something correct by what we're doing?
Speaker 3: And so we we were just going through that motion
Speaker 3: and then I got a call from Bobby and he
Speaker 3: was like, hey, what do you think about Connor McGregor.
Speaker 3: I was like, the Okay, who's Bobby the fighting motherfucker?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Cool? Cool cool?
Speaker 3: And he's like like, what do you think about Conor McGregor.
Speaker 3: I was like, the fighting motherfucker? Like what's happened to
Speaker 3: He's like, well, he's starting to label. I was like,
Speaker 3: funk out of here, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: he's not, like what does he know about music?
Speaker 2: He was like, well, he's very serious.
Speaker 3: This is what he is, this, this is what he
Speaker 3: wants to do, this is who he has on board,
Speaker 3: this is you know what he's his vision is. So
Speaker 3: I sat back and I took a meeting with him,
Speaker 3: and then the way they explained the way that they
Speaker 3: want to do this and the global reach and impact
Speaker 3: that that they.
Speaker 1: Have the record label, meaning the record label, meaning.
Speaker 3: Meaning the people that he's brought into to do the
Speaker 3: record label, was pretty intense, man, And I was like,
Speaker 3: you know what, this is something new, this is something different,
Speaker 3: this is uh, this is something that doesn't come with
Speaker 3: the any level of expectation.
Speaker 2: Everything we do is a first you.
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, so to be and what's really
Speaker 3: attractive is that I'm the first artist that's going to.
Speaker 2: Go through the label.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, he has other artists, but you need to
Speaker 1: sign Bone as well.
Speaker 2: The sign Bone.
Speaker 1: Okay yeah, okay, I did.
Speaker 3: Hear that, but they have but but he he has
Speaker 3: a really deep love for what we do. But that's
Speaker 3: it's not just a hip hop label. There's a there's
Speaker 3: there's a pop act on there. There's some different folks
Speaker 3: that are coming out. It's not just a hip hop label.
Speaker 3: The band that's coming on it's it's it's different the
Speaker 3: way they're doing it, But to be the first release
Speaker 3: on there, there's a lot to prove, And so I
Speaker 3: would rather have good business people around that aren't jaded
Speaker 3: by the and and feel with politics that are we
Speaker 3: seeing the music industry right now, and people that just
Speaker 3: want to do good business that don't have interactions with
Speaker 3: all this suits you what I'm saying, Yeah.
Speaker 2: No baggage.
Speaker 3: So it's I think it's a good it's a good
Speaker 3: way to shoot over niggas heads, you know, a shot
Speaker 3: for that?
Speaker 2: What in the Dixie cup? What the come on here?
Speaker 1: We're gonna it's we've got a long game. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do you want to play quick? Thomas sign out?
Speaker 2: No want to finish this? Okay? Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So so we we uh we decided to do it.
Speaker 2: We decided to go with green Back Records.
Speaker 1: And so is your record label under there as well?
Speaker 3: Or it's just you know, it's just it's it's it's
Speaker 3: just like I think we got one album with an option.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, Just because we're feeling each other out right, But
Speaker 3: so far, so good everything, But you're.
Speaker 1: Giving it about doctor Dre record. Is this you still
Speaker 1: own the Master's only? Okay, okay, that's the partner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, it's it's very up today. It's not
Speaker 3: like the old it's not like the old days.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, saying because you bring it with no
Speaker 1: respect to him, but you bring it everything to the table.
Speaker 2: It's like, well you already recorded on his own dimes.
Speaker 1: That's what he bringing everything to the table, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like we we've always done our records without without the machine.
Speaker 3: You know, even when I was in the machine, I
Speaker 3: never got the full push that I should have gotten,
Speaker 3: you know. So now I'm pushing myself and now I
Speaker 3: just need the vehicle.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's somebody who was like minded that wants to see
Speaker 3: it win as well. They don't have to be record guys.
Speaker 3: We're the record guys. You know, we've been doing it
Speaker 3: for ourselves so long. It's like, okay, cool, Now we
Speaker 3: just need somebody who can promote the funk out of
Speaker 3: this shit. And I don't think anybody's ever promoted better
Speaker 3: than Connor McGregor.
Speaker 6: But what I think is important that you're saying, is
Speaker 6: that sorry, Sorry, he's brought in people.
Speaker 2: It's not just relying on him in his brain.
Speaker 3: You don't have boxing people or MMA people working on record.
Speaker 2: Shit, he's going in.
Speaker 3: He's cherry picking, you know, the people who are qualified
Speaker 3: to do the work. And we made sure we made
Speaker 3: sure that was what that was happening as well. But
Speaker 3: again we knew it was gonna be a slow burn.
Speaker 3: I haven't put out a record in a long time.
Speaker 3: I gotta put records out. I got to let people
Speaker 3: know that I'm coming out again. In a room in
Speaker 3: a world full of noise like this. It's a lot,
Speaker 3: a lot of music that comes out every single day,
Speaker 3: every single day, you know, and I think a lot
Speaker 3: of I think the lane is really crowded, you know,
Speaker 3: so just staying for right now.
Speaker 1: For I think the later's crowded for for uh like
Speaker 1: generic like you know that younger racing. But I'm looking
Speaker 1: at bust of rhymes like he's he's fucking.
Speaker 2: Every other fucking weekend. I'm like rest like you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Just think about it. Look at college
Speaker 1: Joe like you Gray Snoop, Like I feel like to
Speaker 1: say it like this but I feel like it's our
Speaker 1: time again, but it's it's it's to our to us,
Speaker 1: like meaning like we don't have to snap and pop
Speaker 1: and all that other dumb I was like, get that
Speaker 1: together because I feel like for the first time, like
Speaker 1: it feels like the fans are growing up with us,
Speaker 1: Like our fans is probably our age and it's now
Speaker 1: they want our ship, like you know, I like growing up.
Speaker 2: I think the saving grace.
Speaker 3: I think the saving grace of what we're experiencing now
Speaker 3: and while we're able to speak directly to our audience
Speaker 3: is the convenience of being able to get to the
Speaker 3: music faster. You don't have to invest time and go
Speaker 3: to a record store or possibly be sold out or
Speaker 3: a physical copy. It's like you can point click download
Speaker 3: have it right there. So you know, the people who
Speaker 3: grew up to our music have families, they got their
Speaker 3: own lives. Now they get win all the things you
Speaker 3: needs to do. Is they hear that is happening and
Speaker 3: they can get it. I think that's that's the magic
Speaker 3: of what we're dealing with now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was crazy. Access Now the global reach the
Speaker 2: way it is now.
Speaker 1: You remember when you had to you had to go
Speaker 1: to London. You had to physically bring your record to London,
Speaker 1: like there was no m P three, there was no.
Speaker 6: You're bringing white labels over there, white labels yet press.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, that was horrible.
Speaker 2: Times it was great, but it was great.
Speaker 8: Like it's horrible if you think about it.
Speaker 1: Let me finish it. It was horrible because you physically
Speaker 1: had to bring your record and it was so inconvenient,
Speaker 1: but the process was so beautiful because just like like
Speaker 1: you look at these kids right now, if they ever
Speaker 1: go to Europe and they perform over their vocals, they'll
Speaker 1: get bulled off, but but they gotta you gotta experience that,
Speaker 1: like not really because that's what their audience is. Accustomers.
Speaker 2: They have your right to generate the generation.
Speaker 1: But I just sound like the old about to say
Speaker 1: in my day, and I'm like, I like, man, but
Speaker 1: our day, that our day, like we.
Speaker 2: Knew better, we.
Speaker 1: Knew I don't remember one time I performed in Europe
Speaker 1: and I did like an hour and a half and
Speaker 1: I had did an hour the day before, and it
Speaker 1: was like it was like not there was like good
Speaker 1: but not enough, not enough, but it was like not enough,
Speaker 1: and I was like, really, it's like, we wanted more records,
Speaker 1: so we added more records, and these records happened to
Speaker 1: be the only two records that had vocals in it. It
Speaker 1: was I believe in it. Ironically, from the Firm album,
Speaker 1: we never had an instrumental and I remember they waited
Speaker 1: waited for me to get up this awesome job, but
Speaker 1: you had the vocals in there, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh at attention, like a yeah, oh man, what is
Speaker 1: your favorite era hip hop?
Speaker 2: My favorite era of hip hop.
Speaker 6: I have?
Speaker 3: It goes from like Public Enemy L eighty e PMD
Speaker 3: rock Him, Uh, Poor Righteous Teachers, Uh, you know.
Speaker 2: Gang Star.
Speaker 3: You know though that that that era into you know,
Speaker 3: the Death Row, you know n w A that that
Speaker 3: up up until the end. You know what I'm saying before,
Speaker 3: right up before I got in that was like my
Speaker 3: That was like my college. That was my school. That
Speaker 3: was like the things I was listening to. I remember
Speaker 3: going and buying Cypress Hills first album with the red cover.
Speaker 3: I remember, you know what I'm saying, going and listening
Speaker 3: to you know, like musical my friends are driving around
Speaker 3: and listening to what came out and knowing the word
Speaker 3: for words and like going through the whole album from
Speaker 3: top to bottom to find the song that you fuck
Speaker 3: with the most, and ain't everybody consistently consistently consensus was
Speaker 3: the same.
Speaker 2: You know that that I think, you know.
Speaker 1: Like like the like the late eighties, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, into the early two thousands or early nineties
Speaker 1: was was my favorite era. I respect that.
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of a blended thing, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, because I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's different graduating every generation.
Speaker 3: Every ten years there's a new graduating class, That's the
Speaker 3: way I feel, you know, and then you see new
Speaker 3: artists come out, some some stick around, some fall off.
Speaker 3: But every ten years you can look and see, like
Speaker 3: if you cut down the tree, you see the rings,
Speaker 3: you see, Yeah, you see who was doing what when right.
Speaker 3: It's just going to be interesting to see how that
Speaker 3: plays out now.
Speaker 2: Because I don't see them.
Speaker 3: I don't see the longevity of the artists that are
Speaker 3: coming out now, like the majority, correct, I don't see
Speaker 3: ten years from now what they what their sounds are
Speaker 3: going to be like, or if they're even going to
Speaker 3: be remembered, because the tension span is so so fast
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: It's very true flowers man. Hold on, yeah, right now,
Speaker 1: So let me ask you. I always get conflicted conversations
Speaker 1: when I asked about this man. In fact, one time
Speaker 1: it was Dazz on one side and cor Up on one side.
Speaker 1: One was saying funck him, and the other one was like,
Speaker 1: I love him, yeah, which is very weird.
Speaker 2: It's very weird, right.
Speaker 1: I tried to ask Snoop and Dre, but Drake clearly
Speaker 1: said I didn't understand when his motherfucker was over there?
Speaker 1: What what? What? What was your relationship with Sugar Night.
Speaker 2: I didn't have one.
Speaker 1: You didn't have one at all? No, No, So.
Speaker 2: Y'all didn't see each other.
Speaker 1: You say, what's up?
Speaker 2: So you know later on? Yeah, okay, later on.
Speaker 3: But it was just like a I was never like
Speaker 3: in a room or had a conversation with him or
Speaker 3: a nothing.
Speaker 2: It was just like a.
Speaker 6: Join because it seems like everybody got hu.
Speaker 1: My next question would have been, what would the exhibits
Speaker 1: albums sound like on death Row Ship I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about now. It would be mixed very well, would very well? Yeah,
Speaker 1: But so you never got approached to be on death
Speaker 1: Row ever? Get out of here?
Speaker 3: Ever, I was on loud when Loud got bought by
Speaker 3: Sony Columbia. I was on there for a while. They
Speaker 3: took Loud and just kept me three six Mafia and
Speaker 3: Wu tang right, and remember what point should.
Speaker 1: Be trying to get warn g so that I'm that's
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 6: I'm sure that the warry is close to that, right,
Speaker 6: but him being or or at that time, at that time,
Speaker 6: that's what I'm saying that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Yeah. I didn't come in until after
Speaker 2: all that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I could have seen you at the tail end
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right at the ass end
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: What I mean, did you say, well mixed? What would
Speaker 2: a Death Row exhibit albums sound like? Would sounds incredible?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Thing about the eraror there was no whack albums
Speaker 1: that came out of that.
Speaker 3: No, it would have been It would have been kind
Speaker 3: of like the sound of what's happening. But I think
Speaker 3: the production would have sounded like that. But my lyrics
Speaker 3: would have been something else.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. My lyrics would have been
Speaker 2: something else.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, and I say this is behind
Speaker 1: your back. I saying to your lyrics.
Speaker 6: Not flow right? Get your lyrics lyrically, the content of
Speaker 6: the lyrics.
Speaker 1: Do you think you was ahead of your time? Like, like,
Speaker 1: I'm listening to your old ship. I'm like this motherfucker
Speaker 1: was talking about this ship back then.
Speaker 2: All right, right, I.
Speaker 3: Pride myself on being able to stand as individual with
Speaker 3: my art, you know what I'm saying. And so I
Speaker 3: was rapping about things on my first album like paparazzi,
Speaker 3: you know, like you know, people people.
Speaker 2: Spreading the room.
Speaker 1: Man, he had as yes, said that's a different thing.
Speaker 2: No, you know, I disagree.
Speaker 1: I'm an artist. I can say this. Lady got you big.
Speaker 2: You always come in checks.
Speaker 1: Come on.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I see what she got her ship from.
Speaker 2: Like I say, so what let's wrong with it? I've
Speaker 2: been running with.
Speaker 3: It ship Man, I forgot what the funk I was talking? Okay,
Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, so so so like the Foundation
Speaker 3: talking about the fear of being a new father and
Speaker 3: not you know, being a young father. You know, I
Speaker 3: was a father at nineteen years old, so you know,
Speaker 3: I was a kid myself. So I had to figure
Speaker 3: out you know, I put that in my music. Being
Speaker 3: vulnerable is something that I don't I'm not afraid of
Speaker 3: and so being able to have that in my records.
Speaker 3: And yeah, there's a lot of bravado, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of tough ship. There's there's that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But I always revealed a lot of myself and my
Speaker 3: music because I wanted that to be the relatable part.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to just say shit to just get niggas
Speaker 3: to like it, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. Like I wanted to be like
Speaker 1: I want.
Speaker 3: To that, but that's the era we come from, Like
Speaker 3: we want to live our records, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: We don't. We don't want to just make them. And
Speaker 3: so that was that was where we were at, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And so I think that from
Speaker 3: that standpoint, it gave me a clear path to be myself.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say ahead of my time, but just be
Speaker 3: an individual, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like, but that's the definition of ahead of our time
Speaker 1: as you saying something that people are catching on.
Speaker 2: To now, right, you know what I mean? But I
Speaker 2: do know you're being humble.
Speaker 3: I'm taking it for that, But I also I also
Speaker 3: think that, you know, it could have been a lot
Speaker 3: a lot different if if the if the people I
Speaker 3: was working with saw the same vision that I had
Speaker 3: and pushed a little hard, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was like yeah, yeah, loud and like any other
Speaker 3: even the major labels, like like yeah, there was always
Speaker 3: people in the building that had that looked at it
Speaker 3: one way, and then they took what you said and
Speaker 3: took bits and pieces of it to passify you. But
Speaker 3: really they just gonna do what they want to do anyway,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So so yeah, we've had
Speaker 3: a lot of commercial success with major labels, but the
Speaker 3: impact that I want, the impact that that will make.
Speaker 3: But you know, when you got that itch, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, you want to scratch it with you know,
Speaker 3: like I know what it's gonna take to get that.
Speaker 2: I feel like I have that now, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I have it.
Speaker 3: I like, I feel, I smell it, I could see it,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like, like this album, to me,
Speaker 3: it feels like this is the album that I've been
Speaker 3: trying to make since the beginning.
Speaker 1: You know what they say, They say you make your
Speaker 1: best album when you broke and when you don't need it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like that's that's the thing is
Speaker 1: like you probably don't need it, but you know you
Speaker 1: want to feed your fans because I.
Speaker 2: Feel like I owe them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I owe my fans, And that's
Speaker 3: something real. Like I think I'm glad you said that
Speaker 3: because you know, I you know, I could have easily
Speaker 3: just stopped and just been like, that's it, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Because it's very hard to make a
Speaker 3: record right now, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, many when you're not mentally in it, when
Speaker 3: you're just rhyming to be rhyming and just putting it
Speaker 3: out to see if it sticks to the wall. And
Speaker 3: then when you really believe in something that's different. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I believe in this record, Like
Speaker 3: I mean every fucking word I say, from the beginning
Speaker 3: to the fucking end of this shit, every fucking single
Speaker 3: word has been thought about and calculated, and I have
Speaker 3: now I have the.
Speaker 2: Creative space and the freedom to do that. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's not like my life don't depend on it, but
Speaker 3: I feel like I owe it to the fans. I
Speaker 3: feel like I feel like I left it in a
Speaker 3: place where a lot of niggas got me fucked up,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like it was left, Like
Speaker 3: it was like left abandoned, like a couple of wheels missing.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like fucked up. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. My opinion, like nah, I can't leave
Speaker 3: it like that. And yes, I turned down TV shows,
Speaker 3: I turned down films, I turned down all these other
Speaker 3: things because right now.
Speaker 1: The most important thing to me is the music. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And you know, I grew my
Speaker 1: braids back everything I'm about fid I'm ready to go
Speaker 1: nigga like you know what I'm saying, Like and I
Speaker 1: feel I feel like once, I feel accomplished, Like I
Speaker 1: just came off for European Brown because we went out there.
Speaker 2: I'm touring with a live band now, So I went.
Speaker 3: Out there and we were We did that the kind
Speaker 3: of like a test run in front of people with
Speaker 3: the new records and the band, but boy, we we
Speaker 3: kicked a hold in the motherfuckers. We performed for like
Speaker 3: our hour and a half, sometimes two hours, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like we do an Encore and motherfucker screaming,
Speaker 3: we come back and do another one, they screaming. So
Speaker 3: what we do with three encores? I never did that ship.
Speaker 3: I ain't never had to do nothing like that. You know,
Speaker 3: That's how this music feels, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And so like I was. Once we did that. We
Speaker 3: went to Ireland, met the green Back guys. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sound cold, Yeah, it's actually beautiful. Yeah yeah, it's
Speaker 1: actually beautiful.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm thinking of Iceland.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, got me, you got me Iceland.
Speaker 2: And then and then uh, and then we went to Spain.
Speaker 3: That's that's where I met the first time when Drake Mabell.
Speaker 2: I ain't been there. It was really nice.
Speaker 3: We went to do uh the Bare Knuckle boxing event
Speaker 3: and I met Connor there for the first time. And yeah, man,
Speaker 3: it seems like the energy and the push that is
Speaker 3: coming behind what we did on this album.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to share with the world. With the world.
Speaker 1: Man, God damn's play a noise for that. But let
Speaker 1: me tell you what, what's crazy. You know, obviously you're
Speaker 1: my friend, but I got to do my due diligence,
Speaker 1: and I just was hitting everybody and it was so
Speaker 1: crazy for me when when I said, you know, I
Speaker 1: got to exhibit, it's either two things they say, yeah,
Speaker 1: my ride, damn yeh. But but here's this crazy Whenever
Speaker 1: a person goes straight to pit my ride, I'm like,
Speaker 1: he's not hip hop, Like judge that person. I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry that first thing they say, because that shouldn't be
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It should be like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And and and even if you go to dre it's
Speaker 1: like still like do you not understand like this whole
Speaker 1: you know life this guy was was you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: So yeah, but I'll take it.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you know. I used to fight that part
Speaker 1: of your business man me personally, I.
Speaker 2: Used to fight that.
Speaker 1: I used to go places and they used to book me,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know what Norway they were booking when
Speaker 1: they booking the Reggae Throne, nor component.
Speaker 2: Have all those noise in the backside.
Speaker 1: But then I realized, I said, fuck it, they all
Speaker 1: here anyway. Yeah, yeah, but I'll take it.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 1: But I the other day, still at home, high as hell,
Speaker 1: watched the TV and I watched at least fifteen fake
Speaker 1: Pip my Ride shows, and I had to look at.
Speaker 2: This ship and be like, I wanted to call you
Speaker 2: so bad and be like.
Speaker 1: If I'm mad at these these people trying to be you,
Speaker 1: these people like all this crazy shit, Like do you
Speaker 1: ever like see these other shows and be like, man,
Speaker 1: they owe me restitution.
Speaker 3: Nah, you know, I look at that whole thing and
Speaker 3: I try to Now, I'm now there's some distance on it.
Speaker 1: I make inse of it.
Speaker 3: That was a vehicle for in a world where reality
Speaker 3: television was built on the you know, demise of someone
Speaker 3: or or someone's character, you know, or somebody.
Speaker 2: Help, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: We were actually doing something positive and so it also
Speaker 3: introduced me to the.
Speaker 1: World in a different Yeah it's a different.
Speaker 3: In a whole different manner, you know, and it led
Speaker 3: to a whole lot of other opportunities. I wanted the
Speaker 3: world to see me a certain way, but you know,
Speaker 3: and what way was that? As exhibit the rapper, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, I just wanted the world to
Speaker 3: know me as a lyricists. I'm with you doing this.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a monster on the mic. That's you know,
Speaker 3: that's what I wanted the world to know me as.
Speaker 3: But that can that can exist with with other with
Speaker 3: other things too, you know what I'm saying. Like, and
Speaker 3: so that's why I feel like what we did with
Speaker 3: with the show and how the world perceived it and
Speaker 3: how I was in people's living rooms across the planet,
Speaker 3: you know, seven seven, you know, yeah, man, I think
Speaker 3: it was dope. It was about wish fulfillment. It was
Speaker 3: about you know, something positive happening for somebody, and everybody
Speaker 3: got a piece of shit car you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: At some point in they like, you know what I
Speaker 2: thinking about it?
Speaker 1: You was a black man with braidsen all the white
Speaker 1: people's houses. They loved it.
Speaker 2: They loved it.
Speaker 1: I don't think they've been houses since. I think.
Speaker 6: That was like the first of the restoration type reality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was the first of a lot of different things.
Speaker 3: But you know, I never looked back at that. I
Speaker 3: used to look back at that when when I didn't,
Speaker 3: I was too close to it. So now as I
Speaker 3: as I think back on it, it's like, Yo, this
Speaker 3: really like like people talk to me about putting my
Speaker 3: right every day, Like, yo, you got my right, you know,
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, even in jets, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 3: it's like people that if they don't know what to say,
Speaker 3: they say that you know what I'm saying, and so
Speaker 3: and so I'm like, okay, cool, So you know what,
Speaker 3: that's something interesting.
Speaker 2: It's it's some of you.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm supposed to even be talking
Speaker 3: about this, but you know who just approached me, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, to do it again, Not because
Speaker 3: because it's the only people who actually had the right
Speaker 3: idea on how to approach me about this was only fans.
Speaker 1: Only fans listen, listen just to watch that.
Speaker 2: Already, not the porn side, one big side.
Speaker 1: Category category.
Speaker 3: But only fans are starting the TV side of.
Speaker 6: Things, right, They never meant to start off as only.
Speaker 1: Fans, just starting the whole television division.
Speaker 2: They loved it.
Speaker 3: They bought they bought a race car team, like uh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: a motorcycle racing team. They're producing the content. They got
Speaker 3: a cooking show.
Speaker 1: That that that they're they're doing network style television, and
Speaker 1: and and so I got a doctor, I got a call,
Speaker 1: and so they was like, yo, you know.
Speaker 2: We have fuck you money. You know, you know, do
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 1: Us to a good way?
Speaker 3: Do you do you want us to go buy the
Speaker 3: I p pit my right. Do you you wantus to
Speaker 3: go buy it? And then will you if we go
Speaker 3: get it, will you do it again? I was like, No,
Speaker 3: that's nobody's ever.
Speaker 1: That's kind of fly Brandon.
Speaker 3: I know it, listen, I know it's I did my
Speaker 3: due diligence. I know it's being sold to somewhere and
Speaker 3: somebody else right now and whatever, it's going to a
Speaker 3: bigger thing. They're selling all their assets from from that
Speaker 3: side of things. So I was like, you know, I
Speaker 3: think I think as a betting man, I think that
Speaker 3: I don't need the title pet my Riot to do it.
Speaker 3: I think if I do it on my own and
Speaker 3: create something totally different, the audience is going to kind
Speaker 3: of know what it is. I don't think it needs
Speaker 3: to be that title, right, So you know, if I
Speaker 3: if I'm betting on myself, then yeah, I think that
Speaker 3: you know, we can create something a hybrid of that
Speaker 3: show has now done the way I see it, Yes,
Speaker 3: and and I think the world would appreciate that.
Speaker 1: And you'll be owner this time.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
Speaker 3: So all these big, huge networks that have already garnished
Speaker 3: all these.
Speaker 2: Millions of dollars. Only fans.
Speaker 1: Only fans was the only ones that actually knocked on
Speaker 1: the door.
Speaker 10: I'm getting my account, ya, I'm gonna supporting right now, man,
Speaker 10: supporting right now.
Speaker 6: You gotta restart your golden status.
Speaker 2: Only fans gold you got gold status.
Speaker 11: I don't even know that you know, you know that's
Speaker 11: dope because I've been seeing, because I've been seeing.
Speaker 1: These little networks like Zeus and things like that. I
Speaker 1: haven't been seeing and loving hip hop like it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Like these little networks, they're doing their own versions of
Speaker 1: the shows.
Speaker 2: And you got Jocelyn. Big up to Jocelyn.
Speaker 1: She's in charge of her cabinet. I think ray J
Speaker 1: got something. And they're all like little owners of these
Speaker 1: little networks and they're making it pop except for to
Speaker 1: be like Tooby's only one is a little loose. So slowly,
Speaker 1: I don't know who old to be. Wait, he is legitly.
Speaker 3: Slowly, but surely, we are witnessing us becoming small networks,
Speaker 3: satellite networks and having direct access to our audience. The
Speaker 3: gatekeepers have lost the gate already. We just used to
Speaker 3: going through them. So that's why we keep kind of
Speaker 3: drifting that way, but slowly but surely the.
Speaker 6: Path is being They're just trying to buy everything up
Speaker 6: even though they're.
Speaker 2: Trying to keep control power.
Speaker 3: But as as as they lose power, we are starting
Speaker 3: to gain it and we can go directly to our audience.
Speaker 3: So I think that's what the attractiveness of it is.
Speaker 3: Me understanding what it's been before, going through it, understanding
Speaker 3: it in a different light now, and now being able
Speaker 3: to step back in and control and control the narrative
Speaker 3: is amazing, you know what I'm saying. So so yeah,
Speaker 3: we have we haven't gotten far with.
Speaker 1: It, I hope again and again. Let me just let
Speaker 1: me just say something. I'm a binge watcher, right and
Speaker 1: I used to like, you know, HBO all this shit,
Speaker 1: like I stay home Now I watch ship that no
Speaker 1: one I watch Prime Apple TV like I watched like
Speaker 1: and well, again, you as long as you cater to
Speaker 1: your audience, I don't think you ever have to change.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm just noticing that, like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, like remember it was just HBO,
Speaker 1: Cinemax showtime. I can stay home for a whole week
Speaker 1: I'm not hitting on none of those ships. I'm not
Speaker 1: watching what's supposed to be popular. I'm watching what speaks
Speaker 1: to me. I'm watching this sh it called Bad Monkey.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard of it, but Vince
Speaker 1: Vaughn it. It's kind of crazy. It's about Florida. It's
Speaker 1: not the Keys. I always think of you, like cause
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Me or I think you'd be in the Keys.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even watch TV.
Speaker 3: Like, I don't watch like like programming, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like like like television show, sitcoms and all
Speaker 3: that stuff. You get all that on the stream platform
Speaker 3: and watch it when you want to watch it. So
Speaker 3: it's I think it's just changing man.
Speaker 1: Netflix, guy, Yeahlix, Netflix, Max, HBO Max yeah, okay, Apple TV,
Speaker 1: Apple TV, Apple TV of course, and then yeah Amazon, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably making me pay.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I don't do Hulu anything like rend it. I'm like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: you're privately make you ready?
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about reading it?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3: That's as far as that as I start. I'm kind
Speaker 3: of weird about that. I don't like the whole don't.
Speaker 3: I don't have a bunch of ship on my phone,
Speaker 3: like I just have like certain ship, Like I don't
Speaker 3: do the cash app ship and all that cash zelp zep.
Speaker 1: Like I was fighting it for a long time. I
Speaker 1: didn't like people.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know I have it now, but I
Speaker 2: barely use that ship.
Speaker 1: I don't know is okay.
Speaker 2: That's easier because you know the right there.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy. I just know how to send money.
Speaker 1: When somebody send me money back, I just I think
Speaker 1: that shit goes into I don't know how to download it,
Speaker 1: like what I got money though, Yeah I can't RecG.
Speaker 1: You just diner the other day and I have my
Speaker 1: homies homies with me and I took care of the
Speaker 1: bill and then Nigga, my phone start going off and
Speaker 1: I see these numbers coming.
Speaker 2: I'm like, who's sending me?
Speaker 1: What is?
Speaker 2: Are you sending me money?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: Where does it go?
Speaker 1: Nigga? Where it goes? You know, I cash out direct you.
Speaker 1: I'll be trying not to look stupid, so I don't
Speaker 1: be like I do.
Speaker 3: It's in the Apple cash and I know it makes
Speaker 3: me sound really old, but fun that you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like you're talking to a nigga to keep
Speaker 3: us all this money to all facing up.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I come from the
Speaker 2: old school. You know what I'm saying, ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: This is dangerous the phone, having like your cards on
Speaker 1: your phone. Yeah, like then you lose this. Motherfuckers. It's automatically.
Speaker 1: I see you Fat Joe's wife get him drunk one day.
Speaker 1: Maybe I got him drunk too. And wallet you mean
Speaker 1: Waller on the phone, Yeah and yeah, And we went
Speaker 1: to a jury store and I just fell sorry for
Speaker 1: like it was just.
Speaker 2: Like I was just like, it's just you.
Speaker 1: You mean, there's there's there's two sides to convenience. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. There's that could have been a
Speaker 1: positive here. You know, you know our show, that's right,
Speaker 1: it's about giving people their flowers. You know, we had
Speaker 1: you on early when we were discovering who it is,
Speaker 1: but we were more enough to tell you how much
Speaker 1: you mean to the rap game, how much you mean
Speaker 1: to I was about to say West Coast, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to limit you to the West Coast. I
Speaker 1: don't want to limit to you to you know, California.
Speaker 1: I want to limit you to I want.
Speaker 2: To not limit you.
Speaker 1: I want to you know, to the fucking galaxy. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, you are a person who
Speaker 1: changed the game. You're a person who has remained lower,
Speaker 1: a person who's main down, your person who has never
Speaker 1: you know, cracked folded, and we want to give your
Speaker 1: flowers face to face man and man, as Snoop said,
Speaker 1: it's better than the Grammy because it's from your people,
Speaker 1: for sure. You know what I'm saying, nigg I don't
Speaker 1: even get invited to the BET Awards, So this is
Speaker 1: all okay, okay, okay, they said, ray J has Tronics
Speaker 1: who said that, Okay, okay. Yeah, so these these are
Speaker 1: little networks. I'm with you on that. I want to
Speaker 1: but only fans is not little network.
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 3: And and to be able to be that, they have
Speaker 3: the vision to approach me. They have a bigger vision
Speaker 3: for it then than than what I'm thinking. Right, So yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's dope. I think I thank you for
Speaker 3: this too, man. I appreciate it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: By the way, by the way, you deserve this. It's
Speaker 1: not something like we're not we're not giving charity.
Speaker 2: You feel this y yeah ship?
Speaker 6: All right, yeah yeah, Now I hope that that you
Speaker 6: do that deal man.
Speaker 2: And no, I mean listen, listen.
Speaker 3: It all works, and I think it goes back to
Speaker 3: the original question, Like you know, when people talk to
Speaker 3: me and they talk about paying my ride, doesn't bother me. No,
Speaker 3: it does not bother me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It make it just there's so many other things. It
Speaker 3: could have been so different from me to come from
Speaker 3: where I come from and to have made so many
Speaker 3: people happy, you know what I'm saying, Like people like
Speaker 3: people walk up to me and say, you know.
Speaker 1: I grew up to you, you know, like, yo, you
Speaker 1: you know you were my childhood.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn nigga, not that, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, you're not that much younger than.
Speaker 1: I.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: With that, Like even with that yo, you were you
Speaker 1: were you were ahead of your time. Like I said
Speaker 1: that earlier with the with the lyrics and the music,
Speaker 1: But just think about that in reality, like we weren't
Speaker 1: used to seeing motherfucker with braids, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like going to you know what's that ship? Ris County.
Speaker 1: You were going to Rancho Cougar Bonga.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was really worried.
Speaker 3: When I first started to paying my ride that my
Speaker 3: peers and hip hop were gonna frown upon it. Wow,
Speaker 3: because I was young, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 3: I really shouldn't have gave a fuck, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Definitely should but I was. I was worried
Speaker 3: about it because I love what we have this thing
Speaker 3: of ours hip hop is this brotherhood, this this this unity,
Speaker 3: this this unspoken word, this code that we live by.
Speaker 2: I was stepping outside of that.
Speaker 1: Right, you know.
Speaker 2: But you weren't though, But it's the same thing that.
Speaker 1: They talked about.
Speaker 2: Cannot make it make sense on sir, outside of this
Speaker 2: looking at the same things. Inside of looking out.
Speaker 1: You kept it hip hop, like had you had a
Speaker 1: fucking tuxedo on, you know what I'm saying, Like like
Speaker 1: if you was like like doing some weird funny ship like,
Speaker 1: you kept it hip hop. That's the thing about it.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people think like hip hop is
Speaker 1: not even a close Sometimes hip hop is just you
Speaker 1: can put on anything, you can put it on prisons
Speaker 1: to and still be hip hop. Right, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's what I think the U the
Speaker 1: legitimacy comes from. My ride is no matter what if
Speaker 1: you was in Albuquerque, if he was in wherever, if
Speaker 1: he was never left California, he never left California. Sea
Speaker 1: an't know that. In my mind, I was to Seattle,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like all over the place,
Speaker 1: soul it was. It was kept hip hop. I think
Speaker 1: that's my point is like like you're slang not You
Speaker 1: brought hip hop in the world through the strike.
Speaker 3: But it was a risk because it was a risk
Speaker 3: because nobody else had done it. Yes, right, you're the
Speaker 3: first reality TV. You gotta remember we come from motherfucker.
Speaker 3: You talk about, you know, third base when it was
Speaker 3: just an mc hammer for doing Pepsi commercials.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, em crossover, you know.
Speaker 3: Like that's where I was directly going against that rule, right,
Speaker 3: But it was I did it because I thought that
Speaker 3: it would help my music. Total opposite. It had nothing
Speaker 3: to do with the music. Motherfuckers didn't even it didn't
Speaker 3: even move the needle. It did take me into a
Speaker 3: household name though.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, outside of looking in and.
Speaker 1: You got something that joint gotcha. God damn, still there
Speaker 1: talking about Jesus. But see, in my opinion, now not
Speaker 1: now now, I would like you correct me. It was
Speaker 1: represented in the right way to me, Like when I
Speaker 1: seen that, like I want, I wouldn't want. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to watch you represent for us like you never
Speaker 1: felt like that if like yeah, I felt like he
Speaker 1: was bringing us with them.
Speaker 2: I went to wordy like that.
Speaker 3: But I'm glad it landed like that, meaning I'm glad
Speaker 3: that it.
Speaker 2: Was like perceived like that.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, you got people,
Speaker 3: you know who don't necessarily appreciate the transition from one
Speaker 3: to the other. But for the majority of people, there
Speaker 3: was a positive response.
Speaker 2: And you were picking out your own clothes.
Speaker 1: You gotta ask because come on, they definitely.
Speaker 2: The same exhibit on the show that you saw.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. What I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say is you know once was it a success?
Speaker 2: They have he said he wasn't wearing a suit and tie.
Speaker 1: And then that's what's different was the the world got
Speaker 1: to see my character.
Speaker 3: They got to see the way I speak to my
Speaker 3: family members. How ill I tell horrible dad jokes? All
Speaker 3: the time, and and and and that's my sense of
Speaker 3: humor though, you know what I'm saying. So now I'm
Speaker 3: not exhibit wrapping a thousand fuck you bars.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Now you get to see me joking around with somebody
Speaker 3: and being able to relate to someone who's not a celebrity,
Speaker 3: Like being able to talk to people is a gift,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Some people don't know how to relate to who one
Speaker 1: and you jo on right, right? But that that's how
Speaker 1: I That's how I am.
Speaker 3: And so the world got to see that side of
Speaker 3: me and accepted that part. And I never in the
Speaker 3: world expected the you know, I never expected the world
Speaker 3: to accept me as as I am.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I only only what I presented, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So you were worried more than anything.
Speaker 3: Right, right, But I was worried about a lot, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, like, are they it's just
Speaker 3: going to affect me going back and doing music? Is
Speaker 3: this going to affect me? You know, like I don't
Speaker 3: know how it's going to be perceived. But it became
Speaker 3: a juggernaut hit. Yes, it became a path to follow.
Speaker 3: It became, you know, one of the things that people
Speaker 3: strive to emulate. That's why all these other shows, you know,
Speaker 3: came from it. And you know, I look back at
Speaker 3: that and be like wow, Like when you have imprints
Speaker 3: on society, that's different than just having a moment or
Speaker 3: having a hit record like this is this is something
Speaker 3: that lasts like generations.
Speaker 6: You're literally a part of people's childhood or just their
Speaker 6: viewing experience at home or whatever.
Speaker 2: That's that's a big deal.
Speaker 3: You could talk to You could talk to people and
Speaker 3: ask them, you know, about Pimp My Ride and they'll
Speaker 3: know what it is is, you.
Speaker 1: Know, but let me ask you, like we was required
Speaker 1: about only fans and they said they.
Speaker 6: Buy the I p O.
Speaker 2: Look they're willing to.
Speaker 1: Does that mean that you that you get back to
Speaker 1: old episodes like how Snoop got with death ro Like
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the old people, but he has people.
Speaker 6: He was a part of the original ownership. Were you
Speaker 6: a part of the original ownership of the creation?
Speaker 1: So he so they stepped to you with this idea already.
Speaker 6: But but you could be if they buy it and
Speaker 6: you say, well, if you buy it, I got it.
Speaker 3: It's super inclusive. They already told me, you know what,
Speaker 3: they what their vision was. But again it's just an idea.
Speaker 3: But I'm just letting them know. Shout out to OnlyFans television.
Speaker 1: I'm down with y'all. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like like.
Speaker 2: Like if look.
Speaker 12: You look at the camera, I'm down with hand videos.
Speaker 1: I'll be your hand on. It'd be dope, It'd be dope.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But yes, you know what I'm saying, Like everything everything
Speaker 3: that was successful in the past. You know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying that it still can still have relevance now, Like yo,
Speaker 3: why not do it? You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: why not? Why not put it back out there? But listen,
Speaker 3: you know if it comes to fruition, you'll be give
Speaker 3: you guys to be the first one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got damn it. We'll be drinking on
Speaker 1: the side, just comments just to get it.
Speaker 2: But all right, I'm want to ask you this.
Speaker 1: At one point this hat company was paying me right,
Speaker 1: pave me to wear a hat. I just I thought,
Speaker 1: awhile I just could not stop wearing this hat. Was
Speaker 1: there a point where the sess of the show. That
Speaker 1: was a big show. That was our first time getting
Speaker 1: to see a brother that we know that being himself,
Speaker 1: staying himself at that. But it's crossing over, like it.
Speaker 2: Became a house.
Speaker 1: It's almost like it's almost like n W A W
Speaker 1: A Records wasn't meant to cross over. Who Records wasn't
Speaker 1: want to cross over, but it crossed over. You wasn't
Speaker 1: trying to cross over, but you was coming in everyone's household.
Speaker 1: Was it? Was it any time that that that show
Speaker 1: like actually was a burden on you while you was
Speaker 1: recording it.
Speaker 2: I didn't get to tour. I didn't you have to
Speaker 2: stay in the place, didn't make music the same way, right,
Speaker 2: I couldn't record.
Speaker 3: We recorded seven seasons and it was like you know,
Speaker 3: it was it was always something and so I couldn't
Speaker 3: be away from LA and so I wasn't able to tour.
Speaker 3: It affected a lot of the music side of things,
Speaker 3: you know. So then it was like I had spent
Speaker 3: so much time doing the show. When I went back
Speaker 3: to do music, it was met with pell my ride,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was met with that the label party said name
Speaker 1: your album.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I bet you it's similar to how you felt
Speaker 6: with coming back. I mean, you were still in music
Speaker 6: for me and this ship.
Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, I think it.
Speaker 6: I think the sentiment is probably the same for him
Speaker 6: going back to doing music after the show, the same
Speaker 6: way that you felt trying to figure your point ahead.
Speaker 6: You felt alienated. Remember you said you were in hip
Speaker 6: hop purgatory. Yeah, I felt I bet you that he
Speaker 6: kind of felt that same sentiment that you felt.
Speaker 2: See, I see.
Speaker 1: The thing is again, I'm a fan at this time,
Speaker 1: so I'm not seeing If you agreeing with that, I'm
Speaker 1: not seeing I'm seeing nothing but glory.
Speaker 2: Right, That's what I'm seeing, right, you know what I mean? Okay,
Speaker 2: but it.
Speaker 6: Didn't But he hadn't been training, he hadn't been in
Speaker 6: the studio, he hadn't been.
Speaker 3: I wish I wasn't able to do what I what
Speaker 3: I would, what I wanted to do. You know I
Speaker 3: was doing. I was doing something that was really dope, right.
Speaker 3: You know, my first love music is my first love.
Speaker 1: Jesus man, I'm not gonna lie to you. Like I said,
Speaker 1: we had third base on him, and we were sitting
Speaker 1: back and we were saying, how many you know things
Speaker 1: that people wouldn't do because of the commercialism.
Speaker 2: But you was. I kid you not.
Speaker 1: I would bet everything that you was the person.
Speaker 2: That balanced that.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean. I love this story, bro.
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest, bro, because you broke barriers. Man.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You did something that I
Speaker 1: believe that can't be replaced. That's why when I see
Speaker 1: the fakes, would you ever produce a show like that
Speaker 1: without you in it?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the show a name be called.
Speaker 3: I don't think it necessarily has to be about cars.
Speaker 3: I think doing pimpyer Fridge.
Speaker 1: I didn't even think.
Speaker 3: A makeover show is what's necessary. I think what's missing
Speaker 3: right now is uh like people actually doing genuine things
Speaker 3: for other people.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 3: Like you see you see you know, like things on
Speaker 3: social media whatever. But you know, like again, that show
Speaker 3: was about Wisher filming. That show was about something that
Speaker 3: can that we It's no, it's no, it's no racial connection,
Speaker 3: there's no there's no party, there's no government official. This
Speaker 3: is just about somebody having something that everybody else has
Speaker 3: and eventually can be able to do something you know,
Speaker 3: positive with it.
Speaker 1: And so you know, if I do another show man,
Speaker 1: you know, I would.
Speaker 3: Love to produce something that had that that kind of
Speaker 3: basis to it, that.
Speaker 1: Route to it. But I mean, there's so many ideas
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 3: There's so many things, like I got an idea for
Speaker 3: a show, like, let me explain what.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, yeah, I don't. Nobody's listening to us. I
Speaker 2: don't idea.
Speaker 1: No. I mean, look, if they take it. If they
Speaker 1: take it, then so be it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But good luck. But but I like to go fishing, fishing.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, black men fishing.
Speaker 3: I like to go deep sea fishing, right, And so
Speaker 3: you know, one of one of our ideas, me and
Speaker 3: Tato we we we we go out sometimes and so
Speaker 3: no out of the what is it the it's an
Speaker 3: ox nerd. I forget the name of the place. But
Speaker 3: but I go out. You know, it's just it's a boat.
Speaker 3: We go out, take it two hours into the ocean
Speaker 3: and go deep sea fishing.
Speaker 2: And in that, in that that ride.
Speaker 3: Out to the ocean, there's like a two three hour
Speaker 3: gap before we before we get to the spot. And
Speaker 3: so I was like, you know what, I had a
Speaker 3: couple of guys come out and they brought their kids,
Speaker 3: and their kids were from the hood, South Central, never
Speaker 3: been out of the hood, went and got on this
Speaker 3: boat and we went out. And so they had the
Speaker 3: fucking time in their life on this boat, right, never
Speaker 3: been out the hood, just experienced. They screaming when they
Speaker 3: getting the fish, about the boat, all the ship. And
Speaker 3: so I was like, let's do a show called Teaching
Speaker 3: Man the Fish and and so what that was is like,
Speaker 3: we're going to take people who have like these kids
Speaker 3: are coming from like war zones, right, and to see
Speaker 3: them have that kind of experience was really dope. And
Speaker 3: then once going on that long ride back, it was
Speaker 3: like I start talking to them.
Speaker 2: I was like, so, you know, like, who do you
Speaker 2: look at, who do you look up to?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 2: Who inspires you? What do you want to be?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, if you could be anything
Speaker 3: in the world, who would you want to talk to
Speaker 3: to get advice from? They started naming out names. Next
Speaker 3: time you have that person come out with that person
Speaker 3: on the boat. You know what I'm saying, this is
Speaker 3: a dope show. You're giving us a lot. Yeah, No, no,
Speaker 3: be honest, this is dope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but but then it became a whole other thing.
Speaker 3: So the way we have it lined up and the
Speaker 3: way we have it do I mean, good luck, dude.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, look, I'm all for people doing stuff
Speaker 3: for other people, but that idea, right there would be
Speaker 3: sort of the direction I go in order to be
Speaker 3: something out And you.
Speaker 1: Got to realize this double on contre teach them how
Speaker 1: to fish although you talk about fish and you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Life, correct, right, goddamn.
Speaker 6: Right, But you could you could tie it up into
Speaker 6: the only fans deal if you wanted to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's limitless, you know, Like the things
Speaker 3: that we can do with the relationships we have because
Speaker 3: it's all about relationships, you know, the.
Speaker 1: Things that we can do is well, oh we we're
Speaker 1: got Yeah.
Speaker 2: The things that we're doing with the relationships, we got.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 3: It's phenomenal. So I mean, I'm excited about the future,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 6: But you don't tie like the business dealings with McGregor
Speaker 6: with this only fans and these are separate.
Speaker 2: Separate deals, right, separate things. You know, keep many eye.
Speaker 3: I've always been one to keep irons in the fire though,
Speaker 3: you know, I like, I like trying different ship.
Speaker 2: I think the only fans things sounds incredible. I think
Speaker 2: it sounds dope too.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, because it sounds like a not
Speaker 6: to country, but it sounds like a company that's trying
Speaker 6: to change their image. They got the financial backing to
Speaker 6: do it, and they want to pivot from what they
Speaker 6: are right now.
Speaker 2: And they're successful and they're trying to find.
Speaker 6: The right pieces that puzzle and you that means you
Speaker 6: can come in a a at a foundational point of
Speaker 6: that pivot and grow with them.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: And I like building things from the ground up, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It gives you get to create
Speaker 3: a freedom before all these systems are in place to
Speaker 3: limit you on what you actually can do. You know,
Speaker 3: and if something works, then you are actually writing that
Speaker 3: code for that company. You know, you're creating the DNA
Speaker 3: for everything successful that comes after you.
Speaker 2: You should tell them give me equity and only fans
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: As I think they're way past that or something. No.
Speaker 3: I think I think coming in there, what I what
Speaker 3: A I p that's that's that's that can be you know,
Speaker 3: shared and profitable for everybody, is the idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing quick time of slim taking a quick
Speaker 2: piss with myself. Take a break.
Speaker 1: I gotta do something real quick. All right, ready for
Speaker 1: quick time of Slam. Yes, I am ready for Comma
Speaker 1: Slop sponsored by Yeah god damn all right, absolutely, okay,
Speaker 1: yeah this is good. Yeah still gin Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: guys send this ship.
Speaker 2: To You're in like five million group chat.
Speaker 6: This is just too many group chests right now.
Speaker 1: It just started the only fans.
Speaker 2: This is the rules.
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you two choices a ship.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh I've seen this. Yeah, okay, it's not negative.
Speaker 2: We're not pitting people against each other, all right, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It's just sometimes you do.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not really.
Speaker 2: That's not the point that.
Speaker 6: The stories about whoever like jogging by. Yeah, we want
Speaker 6: to know your preferences of things, got it, So you
Speaker 6: pick one. Nobody drinks one of the two choices. But
Speaker 6: if you say both or neither the PC answer you
Speaker 6: just don't want to answer it.
Speaker 2: Then we all drink. Take a shot.
Speaker 3: It seems like we're just about to take a bunch
Speaker 3: of shots.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: To say, m j G, m j G. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: a ball.
Speaker 1: M j G.
Speaker 2: Which was the one m.
Speaker 1: J G just like, yeah, he just he just wanted
Speaker 1: to drink. I was that, look, but you might as
Speaker 1: well just bring the bottle criteria.
Speaker 6: It doesn't it doesn't have to be anything that would
Speaker 6: be like yo, my man, because so and so reason.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Let's do it all.
Speaker 2: Right, Easy? Oh ship.
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Easy?
Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, you see, I don't think he's gonna pick
Speaker 6: you any reasons any story with Easy.
Speaker 2: Did you ever meet Easy?
Speaker 3: I have, I did meet Easy. I met Tupac as well.
Speaker 3: I met Easy.
Speaker 1: Eh. I met Easy.
Speaker 3: I saw him on the one ten Freeway driving a
Speaker 3: white VMW and I handed him a tape. I recognized him, yeah,
Speaker 3: And I handed him a tape and I had my
Speaker 3: phone number on it. I thought it was the best
Speaker 3: thing ever.
Speaker 2: He's the first Mike Jones.
Speaker 3: He called me, told me to come to the studio,
Speaker 3: went to the studio that they recorded the whole n
Speaker 3: W A record, and he was like, yeah, man, I
Speaker 3: want to sign you.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 3: No, this is way after, way after, way after. And
Speaker 3: then I think he had just signed bone. Okay wow.
Speaker 3: And so that's why this is a little surreal moment
Speaker 3: as well. And so then you know, after that lost contact.
Speaker 3: You know, the rest is history. But I did meet him,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, But not I say easy
Speaker 3: because easy E was the catalyst behind the one of
Speaker 3: the the family tree roots of everything that grew out
Speaker 3: of that, including myself.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like coming from that n
Speaker 2: w A death.
Speaker 3: Row snoop Dog you know eminem family tree that that
Speaker 3: branched out aftermath.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you take it. Doesn't have to say at least
Speaker 2: not the way we see it exactly right.
Speaker 3: So so Tupac is a is a juggernaut and very
Speaker 3: artist in himself.
Speaker 2: But I would say easy and what story with Pac?
Speaker 2: Any memorable? Dude?
Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing in me and d D
Speaker 3: from the Outlaws, you know, shout out to Edie, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and and and and the whole crew man, Like you know,
Speaker 3: there was the you know Tupac dissed me on well
Speaker 3: he he well, he didn't dis me. I think, uh uh,
Speaker 3: one of the Outlaws, fat On Machavelli. He was like
Speaker 3: he called out whoever did paparazzi because he yeah, they
Speaker 3: thought paparazzi I wrote paparazzi about Tupac, like like like
Speaker 3: the when he had the how do you want It?
Speaker 1: Song?
Speaker 3: All I want is the money in the fame, and
Speaker 3: then in my song said, it's a shame niggas in
Speaker 3: the rap game only for the money in the fame.
Speaker 2: So so he thought.
Speaker 3: That was about him, and I was like, no, nigga,
Speaker 3: it is about It's not about that of that and
Speaker 3: so and so, you know, long story short, I was,
Speaker 3: I was coming in House of Blues. He pulled up
Speaker 3: in a in a white a white Bentley drop top,
Speaker 3: hopped out, shook my hand. It's like layer ship walked
Speaker 3: in there. Did that infamous House of Blue show.
Speaker 2: Well, that's that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when they did hit him up correct, Wow, Paul,
Speaker 1: he's chest naked, right, I think he had a shirt on.
Speaker 1: That's six six two Okay.
Speaker 3: On stage have been a different thing, jumping out of
Speaker 3: a car and so yeah, that was the back of
Speaker 3: the back of House of Blues, first and only time.
Speaker 1: I ever met Tupac. Wow.
Speaker 2: And and uh yeah that was dope man, that was dope.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: But but but now fast forward, me and Edie did
Speaker 3: a song together and we had talked about that and
Speaker 3: he was like, talk about it. Yeah, we did talk
Speaker 3: about it, and he was like man, he was just
Speaker 3: he just he just felt like everybody was coming at
Speaker 3: him at that time.
Speaker 2: So he was hyper sensitive about everything.
Speaker 3: And so once we had that understanding, it's like, bro,
Speaker 3: that has nothing to do with nothing and it's all
Speaker 3: love now.
Speaker 2: But you know it was, it was, it was a thing.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, that's crazy when the last time you spoke
Speaker 1: the blunket. This just tastes like Jesus pussy, right, but
Speaker 1: just being this, it is fantastic. Look I got this
Speaker 1: for you, man. Look look I got that. I know
Speaker 1: you are smoking, man, give.
Speaker 2: Him one of them roll up Jesus rollers up. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: roll up one bus.
Speaker 1: Assistance from one of my my stores in.
Speaker 2: L A, one of the stores. I like how you got.
Speaker 2: Let's be clear understand that.
Speaker 3: Okay, you got to give us Los Angeles even traditional.
Speaker 2: I didn't even tell you.
Speaker 1: During COVID I did marriage boot camp and there was
Speaker 1: the dispensary that would deliver it.
Speaker 2: To me and all over By is their ship like
Speaker 2: all over Buys. Yes, I never even called you.
Speaker 1: It was I was like in my mind, I'm like
Speaker 1: this nigga got the more appreciated or appreciate. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: did you get into cannabis business?
Speaker 2: What he just said?
Speaker 1: I mean we here, we here, we hit him.
Speaker 2: What is this?
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's that's called Los angel.
Speaker 3: O g Angel lost, Los angel O g Angel. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a collab we did with the traditional brand. That's
Speaker 3: stuff mine is. My stores are called Exhibits West Coast Cannabis. Okay, right,
Speaker 3: I have one in bel Air and one in Chatsworth.
Speaker 2: Sounds very rich. They look beautiful, yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I got a I got with a really
Speaker 3: good group. But the retail aspect of what I do
Speaker 3: in cannabis is where I landed. I started by, you know,
Speaker 3: creating some of the biggest brands in cannabis, from you know,
Speaker 3: Brass Knuckles to what we did with Nate Palm to
Speaker 3: working with others, you know, like like my close friends
Speaker 3: are you know, Bread, Wonder Bread, the Originals, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like like of course Doctor Green Thumb,
Speaker 3: all all the real heavy hitters, Kenji, all those guys
Speaker 3: that really like put the put it down, see Junkie Genetics,
Speaker 3: all these guys that I've had real close intimate, you know,
Speaker 3: like like real real real relationships. Building brands is where
Speaker 3: I started. So that started in like twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen,
Speaker 3: you know, twenty sixteen. Like the first thing I made
Speaker 3: was a taffy and it was it was it was yeah,
Speaker 3: and it was like we couldn't get the formula right,
Speaker 3: so like one piece would be fucking strong and not
Speaker 3: get your ass out, and then the other one wouldn't
Speaker 3: be as strong as it was. So it was like
Speaker 3: a thing we had to make right. And so that
Speaker 3: was my entry into it. It was called lool taffy.
Speaker 3: And then from there I said, okay, cool. We went
Speaker 3: into the vape cards and then we got into other things.
Speaker 2: But I learned a lot. I know every aspect.
Speaker 3: I've had my own distribution, I've had my own manufacturing,
Speaker 3: I've had all of that stuff. So I've learned every
Speaker 3: aspect of the business. So you know, I think experience
Speaker 3: to me is knowing who to fire and you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And so for me, being able to
Speaker 3: have every aspect of the cannabis industry, you know, understood
Speaker 3: retail was a natural thing for me because not only
Speaker 3: do I know how to build a brand that I
Speaker 3: know how to push your brand that I thought it
Speaker 3: was dope to be able to like. Okay, well let's
Speaker 3: tell everybody shit. You know, California is a ship show
Speaker 3: right now. It needs to be regulated in.
Speaker 2: A different way. I don't understand.
Speaker 3: The rules and regulations for cannabis in California are really
Speaker 3: difficult to navigate for legal cannabis now when you out
Speaker 3: so there's say there's a thousand shops in California right now,
Speaker 3: maybe you know, maybe about half of them are legal,
Speaker 3: right so the other guys are operating.
Speaker 1: With no taxes. No, no, you know.
Speaker 3: It was it was black market or the traditional market,
Speaker 3: you know, and so you know it's we plan by
Speaker 3: different rules, but it's over taxed, it's overregulated. They make
Speaker 3: it really difficult for real operators to to go and
Speaker 3: then they have to compete with people who are just
Speaker 3: undercutting the prices, you know what I'm saying, you know,
Speaker 3: because we got to keep our prices a certain way
Speaker 3: in order to pay the taxes and whatever it happens
Speaker 3: from from the legal business. But then when you got
Speaker 3: motherfucking cowboys down the street that don't give a fuck
Speaker 3: about none of that shit, putting the sh and color
Speaker 3: for last boxes with no regulations and they.
Speaker 1: Got cereal boxes and all.
Speaker 2: All the rappers going in there, like you know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, like why go to a legal shop where I
Speaker 1: can go get some fruit loops with a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of weed in it? You know what I'm saying Like.
Speaker 3: This, it's difficult to navigate through that in California. So
Speaker 3: that being said, there is still a thriving business and
Speaker 3: that things get regulated, it will balance itself out.
Speaker 1: Go to the next krook Tom Slam, Thank god, Mama.
Speaker 2: Rads. Cats are corrupt.
Speaker 3: Both Jesus, fuck, motherfucker. You can't fuck what the fuck
Speaker 3: was that? Jesus, see you talk.
Speaker 1: I just want you to know the Minnican and the
Speaker 1: Colombian writes those questions over there, so it's not me
Speaker 1: a U f it.
Speaker 2: Don't go take it out on where they're from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want you to know because it's a conspiracy.
Speaker 2: N w A or Wu Tang n w A.
Speaker 3: And look I love listen, I love Wu Tang, but
Speaker 3: I mean n w A. It's like, you know, that's
Speaker 3: just like where we come from. That's like the Holy croil,
Speaker 3: that's you know, that's that ship started. You had this
Speaker 3: Jerry Curl before I did not have a fucking I
Speaker 3: did have an s curl Curl, I.
Speaker 1: Tell you something I can.
Speaker 2: And I know you had someone and my mom. Fuck.
Speaker 2: I remember, Yes, nigga, that ship was crazy. You can
Speaker 2: put it up on I have one too.
Speaker 3: But you know if the niggas used to sell cracking
Speaker 3: bye them cheap ass sous from Jeans West. You know
Speaker 3: what I say, nigga, Well we did that anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was wow. Fuck I remember that shaved signs with
Speaker 3: the little curly.
Speaker 1: Next to damn it king t No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: can't do this one. Oh yo, see sorry, you just
Speaker 1: give me everything Ice, Oh fuck you God Jesus yeah,
Speaker 1: mm hmm.
Speaker 2: He's got a record with Q.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, man on the on the album, tell
Speaker 1: me you guy, after we get done, you got, I ain't.
Speaker 2: Going nowhere over the quiet storm they.
Speaker 1: Come on.
Speaker 2: To blow it up for the fans. J you hear
Speaker 2: that kind of mash up?
Speaker 1: Jesus okay or jay Z? What the both?
Speaker 2: Jesus Christmas?
Speaker 1: Anna Lie. I told y'all spoke to NOAs today this
Speaker 1: morning and I hit him.
Speaker 2: I was like, I got dreaded.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get in the middle of that ship.
Speaker 1: He's fucking crazy. Oh I got, I got all right?
Speaker 1: Didn't my shot? Come on, you didn't drink your shot? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't seat the game. I treat the game.
Speaker 2: It's cola shot exactly, thank you. That's Chico. What is
Speaker 2: this forty two? Okay?
Speaker 1: Cool?
Speaker 2: All cipresso alcoholics?
Speaker 1: Ooh ooh ooh. I love his racist presidents.
Speaker 6: Yo, the links are so assassins. Yeah, what the fuck
Speaker 6: you guys? I feel like you're part of both cruiser. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I can't fuck it both the fucking I told you
Speaker 6: bring spring the bottle.
Speaker 2: Cheers, cheers, cheers.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh shipg you do that?
Speaker 2: This West Coast ship? I mean, what the just racist?
Speaker 1: Let you have the West Coast and DJ.
Speaker 2: I got the groups? Is that the DJ and the
Speaker 2: West Coast warn Gidfari?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you guys are not fair.
Speaker 6: What the.
Speaker 1: That's the Dominican and that's the Colombian. That's right right there. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: both damn yeah both I got. I'm older shot.
Speaker 2: You can say someone was just was your favorite good.
Speaker 1: MACARONIY better so far as my brother is my brother?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like bring a million already,
Speaker 2: d I drank him.
Speaker 1: You might just drink com okay, all right, and I
Speaker 1: haven't drinking a week.
Speaker 2: All right, you got the next one? Go all right,
Speaker 2: drink no drink that first.
Speaker 1: Okay. I know I got this one. Pharrell or Kanye
Speaker 1: who Man, I'm gonna go with ya, go with yeah,
Speaker 1: big up the yeah.
Speaker 2: Any story with ya.
Speaker 8: Or for.
Speaker 1: I haven't had a lot of interaction with with either
Speaker 1: of them, but I met Pharrell very cordial. You don't
Speaker 1: got to be with all timblingbling like everything.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Talk to Kanye.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like never never really got
Speaker 3: real deep with it, you know what I'm saying. But look,
Speaker 3: I say Kanye because I'm a fan.
Speaker 1: Of his work.
Speaker 3: You know, I speak fluent artists, right, I like that,
Speaker 3: so I speak fluent artists. So I know when I
Speaker 3: see it, and I know the frustration that he was feeling.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I articulate my frustration in different ways, but I felt
Speaker 3: when he was doing that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I saw his his roller coaster ride and through
Speaker 3: it all, he stayed creative great.
Speaker 1: Through it all.
Speaker 3: He's stayed creative, and he and and he and he
Speaker 3: performed at an optimum level, and he was able to
Speaker 3: move some really big chess pieces around the board in
Speaker 3: the in the state of chaos.
Speaker 2: When you can.
Speaker 3: Operate like that, I mean, yeah, it's a whole different thing. Look,
Speaker 3: and you can't take nothing away from for real, for
Speaker 3: Rail as a musical master, he's a genius. He he
Speaker 3: definitely has transitioned into like bigger roles as well.
Speaker 1: Going into you know what he's doing with Louis Vatan,
Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, yeah, and the stuff that he's doing
Speaker 1: in film.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying with The Despicable Me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't take nothing away from what these
Speaker 3: guys are doing because they're doing it at such a
Speaker 3: high level. But I love the underdog. I love the
Speaker 3: motherfucker that's the you.
Speaker 1: Know fights, He's been an underdog in a long time.
Speaker 6: He was going, he was he was going against what
Speaker 6: I mean, maybe to his own he was bringing it on,
Speaker 6: but he was going up against some some big things.
Speaker 3: He's going against some big things, some big ideas. I'm
Speaker 3: going to be some big thoughts.
Speaker 1: We went through.
Speaker 13: Yeah, we went through it. What was that secondhand smoke?
Speaker 13: We definitely called second hand smoke? Like this is ahead Jesus,
Speaker 13: Nipsey or Drake you.
Speaker 1: Nigga ruthless Dominicans of Columbia.
Speaker 3: Draco, Draco, I have to say Nipsey like I you know,
Speaker 3: you know, rest in peace Draco's Nipsy piece both.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just think that what Nipsey manifested in the city
Speaker 3: of Los Angeles, in his neighborhood, in the spirit of
Speaker 3: the people.
Speaker 14: I got to see it myself. I agree with you
Speaker 14: was impactful to a lot of people. They both had impacts,
Speaker 14: but I think what Nipsey men and what he represented
Speaker 14: was a lot stronger.
Speaker 2: You know, I want to re edit what you're saying
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: I know this is gonna sound crazy, but to me,
Speaker 1: every time I met Nipsey, it was like me in
Speaker 1: a version of Jesus. It's because he knew everything about
Speaker 1: his ogs, like and so many the.
Speaker 2: Younger generation just don't.
Speaker 1: They'll know more about Michael Jordan, did they know about Snoop?
Speaker 1: They know about more about fucking you know, Penny Hardaway because.
Speaker 2: Of the Sneakers.
Speaker 1: Then they'll know about biggie, like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Just because of the sneakers, they won't. Actually, this is
Speaker 1: how you're feeding your family and you don't want to
Speaker 1: know who the Forefalls was today. So but Nipsey did
Speaker 1: Nipsey always, and you.
Speaker 3: Can tell the ones who do right, like listen, like
Speaker 3: people aren't stupid.
Speaker 1: They know when you really love this thing.
Speaker 3: When you when you really love it, it shows you,
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, And when you really do and listen,
Speaker 3: just because you're getting money from something don't make you
Speaker 3: really you know.
Speaker 2: The best.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I think there's I think there's a lot of things
Speaker 3: that happened in hip hop and around hip hop, but
Speaker 3: you know, we don't own enough you know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying to be able to control the narrative.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And that's cool though, man, because it's growing and it's
Speaker 3: feeding families and it's doing all this ship.
Speaker 1: But to still be here and be able to do
Speaker 1: this with you guys.
Speaker 2: Like, yes, why I appreciate all of this, man?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. The next.
Speaker 6: Common or black thought, black thought, black thoughts, Yo, sounds
Speaker 6: like you were mad when coming Decice you.
Speaker 2: No, okay, I'm kidding, kidding, I love coming.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying Common is Common is an
Speaker 3: artist in his own right. But if we're talking about
Speaker 3: we're talking to black dots, beasts, man, we're talking about
Speaker 3: the whole. We're talking about a motherfucking a beast. We're
Speaker 3: talking about and Common is a beast too.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Please don't diss me comment because no, I get I
Speaker 3: get it. But but Black Thought is is a whole.
Speaker 2: I think Common would say Black Thought, Yeah, he's a
Speaker 2: fucking phenomenon. No, I don't think that. I think so.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: Nat because because what I'm saying is, we'll say.
Speaker 6: That we're coming because he is such an m.
Speaker 2: C and he's ready to battle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I guess, but he ain't ready to battle
Speaker 1: Black Thought. But they're fan. They're fan anyways, Black thoughts,
Speaker 1: motherfucking monster.
Speaker 6: See, I think you Black Thought doesn't get the credit.
Speaker 6: He deserves to be honest with you, like he's Loosten.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I know. I Look, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of guys.
Speaker 3: There's there's some there's some masters of the of the
Speaker 3: craft that I feel like, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 3: when I listen to them, that the motherfuckers is is
Speaker 3: monster Royster five nine being wonderful, out of control black
Speaker 3: Thought being another one.
Speaker 2: Like there's a.
Speaker 1: Couple of guys that that that.
Speaker 3: I really like, Wow, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: I really appreciate what they do.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And we got this is Cardinal hair, Cardinal Fisher. That's
Speaker 2: one of my.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you.
Speaker 2: It's not that you got a personal roller too. I'm
Speaker 2: rolling my own ship.
Speaker 1: And I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I've been I've been watching you.
Speaker 1: I mean i've been.
Speaker 2: I've been seeing you put it together.
Speaker 6: I got hash and and and diamonds and Cocaina.
Speaker 1: Get the screen.
Speaker 2: Call Kiff Frost, Mellow Mayonnaise, Uh kid Frost.
Speaker 3: I love Melow Maynaes. Shout out Melomyannaes. Without Melow Maynase,
Speaker 3: we wouldn't have dim Rick. Dimrick came from, you know,
Speaker 3: relationship with Melow Maynes. That's how he got introduced to
Speaker 3: be real, That's how he got introduced.
Speaker 6: Mellows Dog's brother. Correct, And that's my Cuban people's right there. Yes,
Speaker 6: that's rush. This question Kid Frost.
Speaker 3: Kid Frost was the He's the He's the o G
Speaker 3: of that I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Ruthless. He was on Ruthless.
Speaker 1: Everything had to hit records, had had the presence, had
Speaker 1: the representation, had the whole community behind him, Right Yeah.
Speaker 1: His son, his son scooped de Ville.
Speaker 3: He was a fucking phenomenal hits hip hop like he
Speaker 3: It's like you can see you can see how much
Speaker 3: Kid Frost loved hip hop by the way his son loves.
Speaker 6: Because it doesn't even look the same, but it's the same.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You get to see how real Kid Frost is from
Speaker 3: the way his son and the way his son is.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like he got a love.
Speaker 3: For the hop that that is deeper than anybody I've seen.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Alchemists like that level of
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, being into into the hop.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like like alchemists man like.
Speaker 3: And then that's another dude, Like I knew when he
Speaker 3: was when he was running around the hooligans, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like seeing him in.
Speaker 1: The main he was back.
Speaker 2: I don't know bugget, but he was.
Speaker 1: Then Alchemist was never good. He was.
Speaker 2: Man robbing good man. He took a shot at me,
Speaker 2: So I gotta take.
Speaker 1: My brother by the way, by the way, one of
Speaker 1: the greatest produces all the time, my friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the others. Yes, man, my brother.
Speaker 9: Man, you took a shot. No one even told you
Speaker 9: to a shout the yeah, I want to leave us.
Speaker 9: Don't hit The whole time this was drink don't hold on.
Speaker 9: I know with him, drink shamps, nigga with champions and time.
Speaker 9: You know, he got into it.
Speaker 1: He just have no coming, great guy with good coming.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 15: I feel like this is you, everything is me Lauren
Speaker 15: Hill or miss Elliot. Oh He's like, oh oh oh oh,
Speaker 15: so many I loved it.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I mean, you got, you got, you got.
Speaker 3: You know, I can't stay in the rain, and then
Speaker 3: you got I can't, Then you got.
Speaker 2: They're both really literally you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then you you know, you get.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, So you're saying both. I'm not saying both.
Speaker 3: I think here I need to make I need to
Speaker 3: got to take a stand. Oh I'm gonna say I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say.
Speaker 2: Mister, wow, I didn't see that one coming, all right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Even though I know the impact that that album had,
Speaker 3: the mis Education of Lauryn Hill had on the culture.
Speaker 2: And the Fujis and the Fuji's.
Speaker 1: Because that's the only album she only hasn't technically one understands.
Speaker 6: Saying that, But I don't know. I just got to
Speaker 6: be give the Fujis as her album as an album.
Speaker 2: No, that's a group project. That's a group project. I
Speaker 2: get it, I get it, but it's still she's a
Speaker 2: part of the group.
Speaker 1: No, But.
Speaker 2: The mis Education of Lauren Hill is her project, that's her.
Speaker 2: But her catalog would be discussion.
Speaker 1: That's why I bring it up all the time, just
Speaker 1: being honest in my opinion. I don't I don't really care.
Speaker 1: It's the real answer.
Speaker 3: Talking about it's one album and in her group stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she she was Laurence Hill within that group. But ice
Speaker 3: Cube was an ice cube until he was out of it.
Speaker 2: God damn it, God damn it, God damn it. So
Speaker 2: you wouldn't give ice Cube.
Speaker 1: In w either. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I gave it to him. He was in a group setting.
Speaker 2: But it makes ice cube.
Speaker 1: W A.
Speaker 6: You don't have ice cube, we're not disagreeing with disagree
Speaker 6: with you and he can be right.
Speaker 1: Disagreement. He's like, yeah, listen, listen, it's a group thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like they are like troying,
Speaker 1: making one movement.
Speaker 2: So you want the solo thing to show shows.
Speaker 3: You're arranged as an artist solo artists, right, that solo
Speaker 3: project is what like, that's your representation.
Speaker 1: So mis education of Lauren Hill.
Speaker 3: Was crazy crazy It moves shift the culture like it
Speaker 3: solidified her as as is who she is now, right,
Speaker 3: And then you look at Missy and she's reinvented herself
Speaker 3: like she just had one of the biggest tours ever
Speaker 3: will but.
Speaker 2: Happened Era and Buster rhymes every morning.
Speaker 3: And also you know the way that she has, like
Speaker 3: you know when you see in a Missy Elliott production,
Speaker 3: you know when you see in the dancers, the court
Speaker 3: choreography that you know what I'm saying, that the sound.
Speaker 2: That you know what I'm saying, like like that ship
Speaker 2: is not easy to do, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And when you see the hard work that that's put
Speaker 3: into that, like you have to be like, listen, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, don't I don't want to hear
Speaker 3: about artists showing up late or doing that or doing
Speaker 3: all that ship when when there's other artists to be
Speaker 3: compared to that are putting in that type of effort,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So that's why I got to get and she penned
Speaker 2: a lot of music, absolutely people, and.
Speaker 1: Her paying game is sick, her delivery is sick, her
Speaker 1: work ethic is sick, her spirit is sick, her soul
Speaker 1: is fucking the biggest life, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like, but now I know not to say component Reagan,
Speaker 2: just start your career, bring to him.
Speaker 1: Shot speaking shape, okay? The Chronic or Crying two thousand
Speaker 1: and one. Oh yeah, I'm ready to take a shot.
Speaker 1: Oh the Chronicle Cronic two thousand and one. I mean,
Speaker 1: I would imagine you picked. You're on both, oh one,
Speaker 1: it's not too im Without the group, there's no solo.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm just saying saying. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just say man, I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: Saying drinking it's drinkers.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: No, No, that is not the same thing.
Speaker 2: It is not the saying. It's not the I'm I'm
Speaker 2: with he career doesn't start on here.
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I'm getting to
Speaker 1: do it again. Okay, this one I'm a last all right,
Speaker 1: m O P or marf d Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Oh man, dance be hitting me all the time.
Speaker 2: Man, we talk all the time.
Speaker 1: You gotta do m O P exhibit Yes, yes, we
Speaker 1: have a record with all together m O P. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and must record too. Was Relativity, Yeah, but that merged.
Speaker 2: That's why came over to ok okay f mm hmm, man,
Speaker 2: come on, man, fuck to.
Speaker 1: Okay. So the difference between mom D and fucking m
Speaker 1: O P.
Speaker 3: It's look, they don't both making gun Talk records the
Speaker 3: gangster ship, right, So one is high energy and that
Speaker 3: delivery is super loud.
Speaker 1: M O P. Mom was more laid past.
Speaker 2: It's crazy because both doing that. Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3: It's both hit, but it's hitting at the same kind
Speaker 3: of level, right, thanks man, yesterday mom D.
Speaker 2: Of course of the affiliation with the label mates.
Speaker 1: I got it, I got it, I got it both.
Speaker 2: Okay, just hit just hit one into it. Yeah, careful man,
Speaker 2: I mean my l.
Speaker 1: We're taking a shot Okay, we're taking my lungs is
Speaker 1: still in the nineties, my bad man. I'm like this
Speaker 1: fucking ship, but hit that.
Speaker 6: That's l a wee, my man, little heroine, fucking Bible favorite.
Speaker 2: It got grocery bag. But we got it there. You
Speaker 2: know what he said, I got in there. That's a problem.
Speaker 2: It looked like grocery bags smoking like this.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, my lungs never left nineties.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, bro, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you some previoum no, no, I'm with
Speaker 1: the pre But you had the grenade too, right, remember, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just's.
Speaker 6: Move on this smoke greenade for SBI. Yeah, sorry, you
Speaker 6: can get the next one a snoop of fifty fuck you.
Speaker 2: To you know with me. Take your shot.
Speaker 1: I'll take your shot. I'll catch up after this. Take
Speaker 1: a shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, crazy shots are always late. Brober eats your
Speaker 2: shots like I like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's that you Jamie?
Speaker 2: Yeah you put some some wax or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to tell you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're trying to get.
Speaker 1: Like black ash. All right, I'm an old man. I
Speaker 1: usually smoke that to go to sleep. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I ain't gonna lie. I got blunted
Speaker 1: Sonny d B having me do hippie mood. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. It's like him worse at hippie mood. Shot.
Speaker 2: He works for them and he makes me want to
Speaker 2: go to sleep. It's all good. I like, I take
Speaker 2: your ship, I go to sleep. Listen if you want
Speaker 2: to go to sleep.
Speaker 1: Okay, what is it? Yo?
Speaker 3: Find your dosage either it's a five ten milligram. You
Speaker 3: just find your dosage where you don't get up feeling groggy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you how the best slip of your life.
Speaker 1: See, I'm a hood nigga, so I don't know five
Speaker 1: milligrams and ten milligrams? What does that happen?
Speaker 2: It's actually.
Speaker 1: You can cut you can cut it in the gun, right,
Speaker 1: It's everything legal cannabis. You know exactly what you're getting
Speaker 1: at the exact dosage. And it's that way every time.
Speaker 1: Because you can't tell the niggas milligrams. They could be
Speaker 1: telling like milligram that means nine. But I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my boys. Sonny DMX, what was your relationship with d MX? Oh?
Speaker 2: You know what, that's crazy? So rest some pieces? Yeah, rest.
Speaker 3: Uh d m X we we met several times. I
Speaker 3: think we only had one real conversation. I would see
Speaker 3: him in past, and I seen him at Ive seen
Speaker 3: him at IVE seen him in.
Speaker 2: New York at the fuck I forget the name of
Speaker 2: that place.
Speaker 3: It's not the Loud Event. I seen him at the
Speaker 3: Loud Event, right, That was one of the last times
Speaker 3: I saw it. But I've seen him a few times before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the d o C. Yeah, I was. It was
Speaker 2: the d o C screening in New York. Yes, oh
Speaker 2: damn yeah.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: That's recent, right, And then we did a show.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the time when I actually sat.
Speaker 2: Out with him.
Speaker 3: And it's dope because I was able to talk to
Speaker 3: Swiss Beats and have a real conversation with him for
Speaker 3: the first time because we just did his record together.
Speaker 2: From my album, yeah exactly, and I talked.
Speaker 3: I remember we did a show and he was on
Speaker 3: the show, came into my chair, he came into the
Speaker 3: trailer and we had and we had a real talk
Speaker 3: and and it was really dope to be able to
Speaker 3: just sit down and talk to someone who I've been
Speaker 3: compared to from the West Coast, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like the.
Speaker 1: Thing. So if you did a record, cad Act, you
Speaker 1: spoke about this with No.
Speaker 3: No, we didn't talk about doing any music together. We
Speaker 3: just talked to each other, just being selfish, just sitting down,
Speaker 3: just talking. And and you know, he's he was a
Speaker 3: really like focused dude.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 1: He was just like really talking in a real positive manner.
Speaker 2: You know what He's deep he was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a deep dude, man. And and he
Speaker 3: did a show like his show he started with a
Speaker 3: prayer and and uh, it just felt so genuine you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It feel like it felt like
Speaker 3: it felt like he was like I don't know, dude,
Speaker 3: like dude was do was really dope, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And yeah, man, And so so when I
Speaker 3: when I think about like how I'm you know, did
Speaker 3: this ship with Swiss now? Man, Listen, dude, I never
Speaker 3: want to be I wanted to be like, Okay, cool,
Speaker 3: I'm not worth what I've done in music, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But for me DMX and what he
Speaker 3: represented to New York, to the world, and how deep
Speaker 3: he was with it, man, like the Exes is with him,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm ex.
Speaker 2: To the Z right right right right right, yeah, but
Speaker 2: but the dog, the dog get the X. I respect that,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: Moving on Buster Rhymes or Eminem. Wow, I don't write
Speaker 1: these questions Dominicans and man, there's a lot of cocaine
Speaker 1: over there.
Speaker 2: In my mind, I don't know. I've never actually.
Speaker 6: Said the selling to each other. Like my mind, I
Speaker 6: think I can. Yeah, you say that's the cocaine. Say
Speaker 6: that again, Say that again, Buster, Ryan Eminem.
Speaker 2: Bust the rhymes on.
Speaker 1: Eminem, by the way, which would probably be the illest
Speaker 1: versus ever.
Speaker 2: Well they got they got records together and like versus
Speaker 2: like like oh no, no, I'm not versus.
Speaker 1: We're just saying, if that happened, that would become have
Speaker 1: a McDonald's mc chicken front row.
Speaker 2: I love that you guys for that big match chicken
Speaker 2: that you pay.
Speaker 1: That's a creepy not better than true Burgers though, true burgerd.
Speaker 2: Yeah you were missed. Oh thank you, Buster Rhymes, Eminem.
Speaker 1: We gotta take a shot, man, you know, you know
Speaker 1: shot that's your drink, all right, all right, Jesus chunky,
Speaker 1: Hey man, these little more fucking cups are stacking up
Speaker 1: over here.
Speaker 2: That's why one Yeah, that's why we do little one
Speaker 2: on six nigga.
Speaker 1: Goddamn.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me take this one. God he loves this ship.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, you know I love it.
Speaker 1: Analog or digital analog. Let me just point out one thing.
Speaker 1: Let me just point out one thing. You know. I
Speaker 1: got a friend in head tonight. His name is Warrial Flush,
Speaker 1: Big up to Worrial Flush. We got classic records together,
Speaker 1: and when we met each other, his hood and my
Speaker 1: hood wasn't vibing. But in order for his all the
Speaker 1: records that we got together to be classic, you had
Speaker 1: to be in that studio together. He couldn't have sent
Speaker 1: me no record. I couldn't send him no record. That's
Speaker 1: the reason why analog always to me, that whole era
Speaker 1: of analog, when we had to be in the studio
Speaker 1: together with each other, like the tape, cut the tape,
Speaker 1: you know, doing all that.
Speaker 3: Like to me, stay in that process. How sharp you
Speaker 3: had to be to be on the mic at that
Speaker 3: time you couldn't. There was no take.
Speaker 2: There was you tape, There was no rewind.
Speaker 3: In order to cut something, you had to you had
Speaker 3: to in order to punch something you had to cut
Speaker 3: the tape recorded again, have that brought back spliced directly
Speaker 3: so it sounds right the motherfucker who's got mad at
Speaker 3: you making a mistake, Like you don't make a mistake
Speaker 3: right now, You're like whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But back then it was the sound.
Speaker 6: So we always go back to the Quick interview where
Speaker 6: Quick said that he just felt that that it was
Speaker 6: like the energy that was the magnetic energy from the vocals.
Speaker 6: It would take the studio, would take everything into the
Speaker 6: bike that was going on in the studio.
Speaker 1: I mean it was the energy though, like like if
Speaker 1: we had to do a record together, like he had to,
Speaker 1: he had to see me, has to feel me, he
Speaker 1: had to you know what I mean. And then and
Speaker 1: then you know that that that collaboration that would send
Speaker 1: on the record. I think that's the reason why I
Speaker 1: always pick a law Yeah. No, no, analog has a
Speaker 1: warmer sound, like like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but you
Speaker 1: got an album drop into twenty twenty five. Yes, did
Speaker 1: dra send you that beat? Or you had to do
Speaker 1: it together?
Speaker 2: We did it together? Okay?
Speaker 1: That that that that's that's that sound was my fucking yeah.
Speaker 1: Look look Drake, you know disguise, you know whatever. He
Speaker 1: could send you a beat and say, but no, whose
Speaker 1: idea was it?
Speaker 2: For y'all? He's got to be in a room to
Speaker 2: make sure he gets to it. I feel like Drake
Speaker 2: does all most of his records. Yeah, yeah, you got
Speaker 2: to be in a room.
Speaker 3: And it's a privilege to be in that room, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, like, you can't come in
Speaker 3: there fucking around. So it's all it's all fun and
Speaker 3: games until the music come on. Then when the music
Speaker 3: come on, niggad, what are you bringing here? Why are
Speaker 3: you here? Like, let's make something dope, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's whas why you pick Analogue's because that face
Speaker 1: to face camaradi is nothing like.
Speaker 3: It's nothing like feeling that agree with the speakers. Yes,
Speaker 3: when you when you look, look, it's like alchemy. You're
Speaker 3: creating a thought, something out of thin air of the
Speaker 3: ether into making something that moves millions of people.
Speaker 2: You dropping guns over there, Jamie, put your guns away.
Speaker 1: It's not like a good moving millions of people.
Speaker 2: Like, there's nothing like it.
Speaker 1: You know. I knew he was answer all the questions.
Speaker 1: I knew he's gonna ask Biggie or big L the
Speaker 1: rest of the piece of both the lyricists in you.
Speaker 1: It's going one way. I know you feel both of
Speaker 1: lyricists when you let me finish, calm down. But then
Speaker 1: the other side of you you have relations. Look that
Speaker 1: got so I'm prepared whichever way you're going.
Speaker 2: These sounds like you leading the windows.
Speaker 1: I did not lead the witness. Did I leave the witness?
Speaker 2: I didn't tell them? It sounds like this, But then
Speaker 2: it goes like this. I like, I got.
Speaker 16: Okay, hold on, let me clear my palate with this
Speaker 16: sleeping rake are sponsored.
Speaker 1: You know outside?
Speaker 2: Let me clear my palate.
Speaker 1: The most interesting man? Ah fuck, I'm gonna say, Biggie.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, let's say Biggie.
Speaker 3: Biggie, yes, right, yes, yes, I will now big L
Speaker 3: and he left before his time.
Speaker 2: Both did the both did.
Speaker 1: But I understand what he's saying. You're right.
Speaker 2: I think Biggie gotta I got it. Got a bit further, Yeah,
Speaker 2: of course right.
Speaker 3: I think what Biggie left on the impact of the
Speaker 3: game raised the bar so we can have you know,
Speaker 3: the mega stars that we have.
Speaker 1: Now you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He showed he opened the door and the light to
Speaker 3: the vision of what all these mega rappers kind of
Speaker 3: emulated and became and built a foundation for. That's so
Speaker 3: big L to us is a hero because of his
Speaker 3: lyricism and his ability. A lot of rappers can rap,
Speaker 3: but not a lot of rappers have ability like something
Speaker 3: that is like standalone, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: something that is like unique to them, Like you know,
Speaker 3: big L had that. The way he flipped it and
Speaker 3: the way his metaphors and it was being together like
Speaker 3: that was something that can't be emulated.
Speaker 2: Or duplicated.
Speaker 3: Although people took bits of his style and made their
Speaker 3: own as well, big L was an originator. So, but
Speaker 3: what Biggie represented and what his style was, and how
Speaker 3: I remember saying to myself, he makes it seem so effortless, Biggie, Biggie,
Speaker 3: the way he put words together and his inflection and
Speaker 3: his his delivery and his metaphors were so smart. He
Speaker 3: had to use less words, which was fucking crazy, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, like his inflection, you know
Speaker 3: what he meant. Even when he was saying something that
Speaker 3: seemed light hearted, it was very dark comedic, and he
Speaker 3: was probably funny as fuck, you know what. I'm saying, like, like,
Speaker 3: he I never met him. I met him one time.
Speaker 3: I never met It's crazy.
Speaker 2: I met him one time. Guess what.
Speaker 3: I met him one time. I was friends with Ron
Speaker 3: High Tower. Ron High Tower was just fucking porn director,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Back in the day, right Tower,
Speaker 3: And so I was going to drop off some weed
Speaker 3: to him, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I.
Speaker 3: Went to the spot and Biggie was there. He was
Speaker 3: standing weird. He was look, he was standing, he was
Speaker 3: was nothing weird.
Speaker 8: He was.
Speaker 1: He was standing on at a different time.
Speaker 3: At different times, he was standing on a patio with
Speaker 3: a cane and he was by himself.
Speaker 2: And so I was and he was like, yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's Biggie right there. I didn't go
Speaker 3: talk to him, you know, I didn't go talk to
Speaker 3: him or nothing. He was just like HEO, that's Biggie
Speaker 3: right there. I was like, oh, ship, Okay, here's your weed.
Speaker 3: I'm out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And so you were certain bigger High Tower, High Tower. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But I mean that's the only time I saw him
Speaker 2: in person.
Speaker 1: You know, Wow, did you have a kuzie on? I
Speaker 1: just saw him with a cane. Remember the cane is
Speaker 1: close with the coosie close enough, all right, and then
Speaker 1: I gotta take a pe piece of after this.
Speaker 2: Man, I was ready to rock and roll.
Speaker 1: Let me go. First come, it's my turn, Jackson or
Speaker 1: Prince stories with either one.
Speaker 2: If you have Oh yes, I do have a I
Speaker 2: have a Prince story. I have a Prince story where
Speaker 2: we at Oh my god, pick first was actually the
Speaker 2: Prince both nigga, I can't canning? All right, see your
Speaker 2: story please, Okay. So I got a story of Prince. Okay.
Speaker 3: So there was there was a there was a like
Speaker 3: a a like a some kind of big party that
Speaker 3: was happening. Uh, Hollywood, Los Angeles. We we get in there,
Speaker 3: we're supposed to be there. We get there kind of early.
Speaker 3: We're got to do something that you know, probably around
Speaker 3: twelve twelve, one o'clock. And we're sitting in this section
Speaker 3: and so we got this booth and then we you know,
Speaker 3: my whole team is in the booth. I'm in the
Speaker 3: booth with Chiller, you know what I'm saying. And uh,
Speaker 3: we see this big group of guys coming to us
Speaker 3: and and they they're like, uh, you know you're in
Speaker 3: you're in so so section, like what you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, what are you talking about? Like like,
Speaker 3: we're here, we're supposed to be here, they told us
Speaker 3: to be. Here's like no, this is like designed for
Speaker 3: somebody else. And so then this nigga comes through and
Speaker 3: like this all white mother fucking uh like this one
Speaker 3: piece thing.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Niggas like nigga.
Speaker 1: It's like yeah, no, like it's this white one piece
Speaker 1: and the nigga roll through and then he he's not
Speaker 1: saying nothing to us, but I can clearly see the
Speaker 1: niggas standing.
Speaker 2: Right there, and I'm like, oh, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like are we this.
Speaker 1: So so? Yeah, man, he's supposed to come in, he's
Speaker 1: supposed to do this little thing.
Speaker 3: And nobody saying his name. No, no, nobody saying his name. Okay,
Speaker 3: they're not saying prince, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so I'm like, oh shit, okay, all right dude,
Speaker 1: So uh hey man, let's let's.
Speaker 2: Move out to niggas way.
Speaker 1: You're not are you, Like I'm not gonna be I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be in the story that you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying behind the music as he got into a
Speaker 1: fist fight with Prince. You know when I do with that,
Speaker 1: like okay, yeah, out the way.
Speaker 3: You know that was the only time I saw Prince
Speaker 3: but never met Michael Jackson A lot of my friends,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Fred Rek had some really
Speaker 3: funny stories about you know, him and and and producing
Speaker 3: him with Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: So you know you got to talk to fred Rek.
Speaker 1: He got some funny ass stories. Okay, Lady of Rage
Speaker 1: or the brad Lady of Rage, rough and tough with
Speaker 1: apple puff app So fucking look, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think we need to explain that. I think that
Speaker 2: was a one and them.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Mt raps a rap city. Oh oh.
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on your MTV raps are rap city. Wow,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of historic ship.
Speaker 2: That we show kind of dead and them both two
Speaker 2: different things.
Speaker 1: Don't put that on.
Speaker 10: We want.
Speaker 2: Like like timelines, and he was like.
Speaker 1: Like two different workholes. He just put the job. I'll
Speaker 1: with y'all.
Speaker 2: I do mean a little bit job what m t
Speaker 2: V m t V rap rap rap rap City.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of historic ship that went down on
Speaker 3: your TV raps when Tupac was threatening the Huge Brothers.
Speaker 3: Just a lot of historic ship that went down on
Speaker 3: Rap City. I was post iconic. I mean I was
Speaker 3: on Rap c DJ gig on there.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna have to say both man, motherfuckers, I have
Speaker 12: shot a Look, I'm gonna keep this going, bro, because.
Speaker 1: That's why I tried not to, like go to the
Speaker 1: bathroom between the shots. See the shots hits you when
Speaker 1: you jump up, like what I mean, like you order
Speaker 1: the bathroom. I'll be trying to hold it down. I
Speaker 1: can't because once I get up. But once I get.
Speaker 2: Like, he hasn't got up. Yeah, he's sober stiff when
Speaker 2: he gets.
Speaker 1: Up, you know, because I'm drinking shots. This motherfucker drinking energy.
Speaker 2: Keep going, you guys have to catch up on your shots.
Speaker 2: Are you ready?
Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood of Mentic Society, Boys in the
Speaker 1: Hood or Minister Society?
Speaker 2: What the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: One? So you didn't go to the bathroom. I gotta
Speaker 1: wait come out the bathroom. Oh yeah you can't, yeh.
Speaker 2: Minused to society.
Speaker 1: Boys in the hood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, DJ Muggs are alchemists.
Speaker 3: Oh well, DJ Muggs because without DJ Muggs, we don't think.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because alchemist is part of So yeah, ghetto boys
Speaker 6: are U g K ghetto boys. You rapidfire right now,
Speaker 6: White Clifford Will, I am Well, I am Drey or
Speaker 6: Quincy Jones, doctor Drey New York and Miami. What take
Speaker 6: a shot New York on Miami. So I'm not getting
Speaker 6: in the middle of that shit.
Speaker 1: We get into the whole time every day.
Speaker 2: Nigga, you know, nigga, I gotta go to New York. Yes,
Speaker 2: you're in Miami.
Speaker 1: God damn.
Speaker 2: The South got something to say. The South got something
Speaker 2: to say. I love all my digs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it?
Speaker 2: What was fucked up?
Speaker 1: Y'all didn't even have Andre two thousand back when he
Speaker 1: said that talking about there was in New York.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about your nigas in the South.
Speaker 1: I ain't see y'all on Twitter. Back then, there was
Speaker 1: no Twitter exactly.
Speaker 2: It was my Space exactly. I see y'all nowhere.
Speaker 1: Everybody was like they didn't understand that moment at the time.
Speaker 1: I get, yeah, yeah, your speech was not making sense.
Speaker 6: Eighties hip hop or nineties hip hop, nineties Jesus Christmas
Speaker 6: nineties hip hop for sure.
Speaker 2: Podcasts of radio radio, a lot of people are really
Speaker 2: know what the fuck they're talking about. That's true.
Speaker 1: Podcast it's a lot of opinion.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. People just getting drawn on Yeah no, no,
Speaker 2: not just us you know this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but a lot of influential podcasts pump a lot
Speaker 3: of bullshit. And it's like, is that helping and hurting
Speaker 3: just because it's you know, but I mean, look like
Speaker 3: people listen to what they want and people you know,
Speaker 3: are attracted to what the messaging they want to be
Speaker 3: attracted to.
Speaker 6: I mean there's pros and cons of both, because radio
Speaker 6: programs and by the very definition, yeah, programs.
Speaker 1: For sure, for sure.
Speaker 2: So you got to pick your poinson right right e
Speaker 2: forty or too short? O?
Speaker 1: Both?
Speaker 2: Oh? Ship? All right? Well me and you what the
Speaker 2: fuck I can't do that?
Speaker 1: Come on here, I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna let know you have the last one.
Speaker 6: But before he gets back, Oh go ahead, buddy, But well,
Speaker 6: I take a leaky wiki.
Speaker 2: I wait for you.
Speaker 1: No, just go bro, just just three and a half.
Speaker 2: It's the very last one. I wait for you. Oh
Speaker 2: my god.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I have a question.
Speaker 2: I got all the questions. Come on, but what are
Speaker 2: we drinking?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You missed a shot? There we go?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was now. But I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 3: The question was due. I like, uh, it was e
Speaker 3: forty or too short. I can't pick between those.
Speaker 2: I can't pick between them. But listen, we gotta we
Speaker 2: can't be here.
Speaker 1: You fuck you and I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing on the trip for the West Coast,
Speaker 2: no fuck you, man. I was under strict instructions.
Speaker 1: No nigga, no, no open itga, just one all right,
Speaker 1: I just wait for And that's why he tried to well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna stop with this ship then okay, because nigga,
Speaker 1: this is just throw up. Listen, nigga, you like, I
Speaker 1: know what the funk I'm talking about this?
Speaker 2: Hold on?
Speaker 1: What did I started by saying, I study people's drink orders.
Speaker 2: You the one who ordered Hendricks gin. I was gonna
Speaker 2: be either or nigga. I was gonna make the decision
Speaker 2: when I got here.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, drink. That's not how he takes it.
Speaker 2: Listen, that's how we did.
Speaker 1: I say that.
Speaker 2: I said, ask him what you want to be either old?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: See listen, we've been skeeping pause. We've been scheming on
Speaker 1: you for a week and a half. We've been like, yo, listen,
Speaker 1: he can't order both? Which one did he actually going
Speaker 1: to drink? I came with this much. May I may
Speaker 1: be scaring off something, you know. Come on, you know,
Speaker 1: come here on a flight like nigga. I may not
Speaker 1: like you know what Keeter was a bit much last night.
Speaker 1: Let me fuck with the gin, you know, a little
Speaker 1: mixed drink. But Nigga, you can't just have one drink, Nigga,
Speaker 1: one drink, Nigga.
Speaker 2: You make perfect sense. No one's arguing with you. But
Speaker 2: I'm just saying this is some.
Speaker 1: Good as ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's just that you got you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: limit your night.
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta limit your night.
Speaker 1: Man for a week and a half, we said, which
Speaker 1: one is he drinking? Because remember he said gin and
Speaker 1: thee quila? Right, And we've been scheming this whole week
Speaker 1: and a half. We've been hitting mister Lee, and we
Speaker 1: told you to get specific answers. You never gave us answers.
Speaker 1: So you gotta drink to your choice, simply your choice.
Speaker 1: Just Jamie, can you do us a favor?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: This is my request. If it's okay with you, absolutely
Speaker 1: come on this chill a chilled shot man. You don't
Speaker 1: want to chill shot, you want to go straight raw damn,
Speaker 1: But okay, chilling, let's chill it.
Speaker 3: You never have a little splash, a little splash of soda,
Speaker 3: splash of cranberry.
Speaker 2: Okay, definitely not doing that. That's for him. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it.
Speaker 1: As world as possible.
Speaker 2: Take the cranberry splashes.
Speaker 1: Man, it's just a fucking drink, all right, Fine, man,
Speaker 1: all right, I think that Wait what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you got?
Speaker 1: You got? Just be like this, no juice, You embarrassing us?
Speaker 1: Like it looks nice, but it's not nice.
Speaker 4: I just start scratching, cleanup, cleaned up.
Speaker 1: Well it's not nice. Okay, but what you want not listen, listen,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: Just just chill it.
Speaker 1: Just just chill it, all right.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 2: Look we got.
Speaker 1: Who's that army? Sold more play studio suck Shooters, good shooters.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know what the shooter is. A shooter?
Speaker 2: Get shooters shot?
Speaker 1: Yes, like an I'm gonna take a shot. You can
Speaker 1: give them a shooters shooting my whole life. I'm okay.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a shooter no more.
Speaker 2: I'm bowing like that. I thinking, I take a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all Lord respected. No, I know I was waiting
Speaker 1: for you, my brother. I guess I want to take
Speaker 1: a shot with you. This is the only do not
Speaker 1: lead the witness, lead the witness. Loyalty or respect? Loyalty
Speaker 1: why Wow, it's a that's fast. Loyalty is royalty, That's
Speaker 1: it it is. It's like, I see, this is the
Speaker 1: only time that me and E f N feel like
Speaker 1: it's both.
Speaker 2: We'll take a shot. Yeah, so I'm gonna take a shot.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot because I feel like loyalty
Speaker 1: respect goes hand in hand.
Speaker 3: Some people disagree with me and I respect people. Some
Speaker 3: people respect you when it's convenient. Some people respect you
Speaker 3: when they get something out of it. Loyalty is different.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, we didn't actually we didn't ask the Dominican Republicans.
Speaker 1: We'll come back to the dedication in a little while.
Speaker 3: So, so, loyalty to me is something different. That's something
Speaker 3: you can't fake, you know what I'm saying. Like, loyalty
Speaker 3: is something that comes from your your spirit. It's like
Speaker 3: you do it when they in front of you, when
Speaker 3: they're not in front of you, and you know, being
Speaker 3: being loyal to somebody you know is different, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I pick loyalty out of respect
Speaker 3: because people lose respect. What would you like both at
Speaker 3: the same time, you respect, you don't want. I don't
Speaker 3: give a fuck what you think about me, as long
Speaker 3: as I know I'm being an upstanding individual. You know,
Speaker 3: it depends on when you meet me, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like some people will tell you I'm the
Speaker 3: greatest thing in the planet. Some people will tell you
Speaker 3: I'm the worst thing that ever happened to them. Depends
Speaker 3: on when you meet me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: because of what our relationship is. Whenever somebody loses a fight,
Speaker 3: they're not gonna tell you that they lost their right. Yeah,
Speaker 3: then everything is somebody else's fault. But for me, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, loyalty means that whether you know,
Speaker 3: win or lose, Like, that's who I'm rying with and
Speaker 3: that's what's important.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: God comes to you.
Speaker 1: And God says, man, I want you to make the
Speaker 1: world straight.
Speaker 2: And straight.
Speaker 1: I don't mean that and like a sexual man, I
Speaker 1: just mean.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, only no would clarify that.
Speaker 7: That that is the most dignified passe that I've ever heard.
Speaker 7: I didn't want to react to it, but that is
Speaker 7: the most It's only you that say that.
Speaker 2: I don't mean that sexual.
Speaker 1: I want the most that was clear. That was the
Speaker 1: most dignified way.
Speaker 2: I don't mean a sexual.
Speaker 1: But God comes to you, I said, act the disease.
Speaker 1: I want you to make the world walks narrow. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say straight and narrow. Damn, man, I can't funk
Speaker 1: with y'all. Man, old, let me let me break the
Speaker 1: cross question. But God comes to you and say, man,
Speaker 1: you're gonna You're gonna humanity will be saved by this
Speaker 1: record that you make right now.
Speaker 2: Specifically, I don't want to shoot her.
Speaker 1: He likes shooters a little bit more like under. I
Speaker 1: wanted to under a shot.
Speaker 2: I wanted under over.
Speaker 1: Okay, But God says, extra disease. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: a producer and a feature, Dad, alllive, This one song
Speaker 1: is gonna be it. What is that producer and what
Speaker 1: is that feature? That alllive and producer that are alive too?
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hm.
Speaker 2: Doctor Dre and Janice Choplin, are you gonna suck me?
Speaker 2: Up like that, Doctor dre Jannis Choplin. It ends there.
Speaker 2: You said producing artists.
Speaker 1: You can do another feature in it if you want to.
Speaker 2: That was that's it. That's the feature.
Speaker 1: You got.
Speaker 2: You got access to anybody else too. I'm just told
Speaker 2: you don't short change yourself like the case. No, have
Speaker 2: you heard Janis Chopplin?
Speaker 1: I don't know who then?
Speaker 8: That is.
Speaker 1: That's why I try to change the subject.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, do you do you?
Speaker 1: She? Uh?
Speaker 2: She is uh she She had a very short career,
Speaker 2: but it was but it was massive.
Speaker 3: The songs that she sang, she sang from like the
Speaker 3: bottom of her soul, and the way that translates through
Speaker 3: the speakers is something totally different. So do yourself a
Speaker 3: favorite listening to some channels, job with smoke, a joint,
Speaker 3: kick your feet up and you're gonna feel that ship.
Speaker 2: A baby, nigga.
Speaker 1: This is like fucking this is this, This is yelling, screaming, yo,
Speaker 1: this is this is this is energy coming out of there.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's none of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh man, Jesus.
Speaker 2: Notes Janifer and Dr Drey.
Speaker 1: I would like to hear that Stevie Wonder Lightning, Richie
Speaker 1: Lightning light Lighthouse.
Speaker 2: He's like an almost almost.
Speaker 1: Did you did you see snoop snoop things? Stevie want
Speaker 1: Stevie wanted to be FaceTime and you know he's And
Speaker 1: then Drake said, he said he told him to tex.
Speaker 2: Stevie wonder On, like is.
Speaker 3: Light me Richie Stevie Wonder or line on Richie the
Speaker 3: same Nigga's not the same nigga.
Speaker 8: Light like.
Speaker 1: That Stevie.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he's the best guy.
Speaker 2: We got to make a lighting person.
Speaker 1: Uh let me see, muh man Stevie wonder Man, he's
Speaker 1: first man Stevie Wonder. I saw that coming, right, Stevie
Speaker 1: wonder Right. I would think Mike Loud Richie of Icon.
Speaker 2: You know, I always think who the other person would
Speaker 2: say the present.
Speaker 1: And I think, says Stevie, you gotta reason. It's okay, No,
Speaker 1: I just I mean just the preference. Just I Rember
Speaker 1: growing up to listening to Stevie wonder record.
Speaker 2: If we could get Stevie on this is my dream
Speaker 2: Stevie on Dream champ Bro.
Speaker 1: That would be that's my he would say some crazy
Speaker 1: ass story. Wait wait, wait, wait still Chid.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, this is where she goes crazy because up.
Speaker 1: There we go, come on, nigga shooting this, nigga, this,
Speaker 1: this is my we shooting. Don't shoot that. Don't shoot no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: okay shot Now we're not shooting.
Speaker 2: We're just sipping. All right, Go shoot it.
Speaker 1: Let'shoot.
Speaker 2: Let's shoot shoot it, shoot it, shoot it. Oh my,
Speaker 2: that was good.
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be bad.
Speaker 2: But it's good. It's gonna be bad. But it's gonna
Speaker 2: be bad.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be bad. It's gonna be I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: my promo shot right there.
Speaker 2: But like he wanted to do that.
Speaker 1: Oh ship, yeah, this is.
Speaker 2: This is this is what we're doing now. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: you break that. Let's go.
Speaker 1: This whole chess area is on fire. Oh it's in
Speaker 1: the pokonots okay man, you know the sweet skiing Yeah,
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors. Yes, rest in peace of fear?
Speaker 2: Oh yes, right. Did you guys ever intend to really
Speaker 2: make an album?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Shout out to ra I love that's my brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we had a deal on the table, and I
Speaker 3: stayed with my brother rass. He didn't want to sign
Speaker 3: a contract because sign he didn't. We stood behind him,
Speaker 3: but he didn't want Priority to come in and take
Speaker 3: a percentage of what.
Speaker 6: This new venture was because he had a whole beef
Speaker 6: with that's correct deal that he's dealing with, and they.
Speaker 3: Were trying to like if he got if we did
Speaker 3: a deal with us, Priority was asking for a percentage
Speaker 3: of what rass Cast was supposed to perceive, and he
Speaker 3: didn't agree with that because he felt like they were
Speaker 3: already doing him dirty on his side of the records.
Speaker 3: Why should they benefit off of what they had nothing
Speaker 3: to do with being a part of Could he have
Speaker 3: not done a pseudo name like no artists did that
Speaker 3: ras Cast? It was exhibit rass Cast interfere however you
Speaker 3: want to right, you can't do that, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And that's what that's what we did, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But yes, we did had some records and there was
Speaker 1: a thing in place for us to do an album together.
Speaker 2: But just the records I heard were amazing.
Speaker 3: And no, it was fun. It was fun to do it, man,
Speaker 3: And and you know, I'm glad I was able to
Speaker 3: go see Sofia before he passed, you.
Speaker 2: Know, And I didn't realize he was from the Bay.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I never knew that. I just
Speaker 2: thought I thought he was an l A dude. Actually, no, Oakland,
Speaker 2: you know, west Side, and then he came up with
Speaker 2: Digital Underground those.
Speaker 3: Guys absolutely, and then you know, he made a name
Speaker 3: for himself the first album he ever released. Yes, no,
Speaker 3: that's not my biological brother, but we came up together
Speaker 3: very close. Right. So his first album is called box
Speaker 3: Car Sessions. Do yourself a favor. Go listen to battle Trill.
Speaker 3: That was one of the first songs I heard from
Speaker 3: Sofia that really honed me into his voice.
Speaker 2: Is Cadence Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was.
Speaker 3: He was ahead of his time. Yeah, he was ahead
Speaker 3: of his time, you know. Yeah, shout out to Sonny,
Speaker 3: his brother. I was there with him. He rass cast
Speaker 3: came up. You know what I'm saying. We all got
Speaker 3: to be together.
Speaker 2: So he was in society, right he was.
Speaker 6: He was. Yeah, he was an actor and yeah, so
Speaker 6: people that don't know his rap career they know him
Speaker 6: from that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was an l MC man. Yeah he was.
Speaker 2: He's phenomenal and part society him.
Speaker 1: He's cousin Harold, Yeah, and the house party scene, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he got.
Speaker 2: Shot at the stoplight. Yeah, yeah, but man, great loss.
Speaker 1: Yeah man.
Speaker 3: But you know, you know death, death is is something
Speaker 3: that that we all know we have to deal with eventually, eventually,
Speaker 3: all of us. But you know, when it, when it
Speaker 3: happened to people that's really close to you and and
Speaker 3: and really right next to you, you you realize a
Speaker 3: few things about yourself, like your mortality and and you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, where you are in the state
Speaker 3: of things. You know, I think my brother is in
Speaker 3: a better place. I think my brother is it's not
Speaker 3: feeling the pain that he was feeling. And I'm glad
Speaker 3: I got to see him before he won.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad we got the Usually at this time
Speaker 1: you say a moment of silence.
Speaker 2: But you know, now we take a drink. We take
Speaker 2: a drink, you know, mad drink, drink and a shot.
Speaker 2: How about drink and a shot.
Speaker 6: But I would tell the fans out there, go and
Speaker 6: check out all the records you guys did, whether it
Speaker 6: was labeled Golden State Warriors or not.
Speaker 2: Just check out music. Don't worry to say that's a
Speaker 2: that's a way to get the.
Speaker 3: Game Trigonometry from Sofia. Go listen to the album I
Speaker 3: suggest you listen to Stay High and uh, I'm an
Speaker 3: invest I suggest you listen to box Car sessions. Uh uh,
Speaker 3: Battle Trio being one of them. You know, he has
Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of music. I think Trigonometry is one
Speaker 3: of my favorite albums from Sofia. But then listen to
Speaker 3: you know, he created the Hoo Riders. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, his little brother, Sonny, he created the.
Speaker 2: Correct I did not know that. Absolutely, that's his little brother.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sonny, I did not shot calls big that's crazy
Speaker 3: on to the next level of the game.
Speaker 1: At all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, wow.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, are you still having fun?
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 2: I wasn't for a long time, but I'm having fun.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, I try not to bring my personal
Speaker 3: shit to the office, you know, I try not to
Speaker 3: bring Yeah, no, it's not impossible, but it takes a
Speaker 3: real effort to not bring the personal shit to the office.
Speaker 3: I'm never the one to bleed into the public or
Speaker 3: trying to complain or do all. You know what I'm saying, Like, listen,
Speaker 3: like I have my outlets right and so being able
Speaker 3: to you know, create at this level at this time
Speaker 3: with the people that I'm still around and the people
Speaker 3: that still fuck with me, And you know, life is funny, man,
Speaker 3: It'll show you a way. And then you know, when
Speaker 3: people lose faith in that way, you get disappointed into
Speaker 3: people rather than understanding the lesson.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 3: And so once I started like moving away from what
Speaker 3: people thought, man, I started creating music for me. I
Speaker 3: started accepting things that were only healthy for me and
Speaker 3: not really tripping off losing the people or situations or
Speaker 3: relationships that had to time me to anything else. And
Speaker 3: so now I'm having fun. I'm like really being able
Speaker 3: to hone in on something that I'd love to do,
Speaker 3: being able to do it at the level I'm doing
Speaker 3: it at, still be able to, you know, have time
Speaker 3: for my family where I didn't have it before. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like I'm picking and choosing the
Speaker 3: things I want to do rather than doing it just
Speaker 3: to live, You know what I'm saying. That's a whole
Speaker 3: other thing, you know, And it happens sooner for other people,
Speaker 3: it happens at different times for other people. But me
Speaker 3: in this place now, the people that I'm with now,
Speaker 3: the circle of friends I have now, the people that
Speaker 3: I have around me in business.
Speaker 2: It feels really good, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Even when things are in chaos, I still feel in control,
Speaker 3: which is something I have never felt in before.
Speaker 1: You know what i'm saying before. But I mean, that's
Speaker 1: just life. That's for everybody, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But so, yeah, I am having fun. I'm having fun.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling confident, I'm feeling powerful, I'm feeling like you know,
Speaker 3: I can't wait to deliver this to y'all so I
Speaker 3: can fucking get my shit off. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: I can't wait to like just deliver this shit like live.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like with the band, come
Speaker 3: and see me like, yeah, okay, you've been in one
Speaker 3: of my shows before.
Speaker 2: You've seen this before, You've seen that.
Speaker 1: Come check me out.
Speaker 3: Time from bringing out because I'm about to funk you up.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Because I feel really really strongly about what we created.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The song you know what's
Speaker 1: your go through songs, my go to song when you're performing?
Speaker 2: Oh ship now any any.
Speaker 1: No, because I've been performing with a band now. So
Speaker 1: the band is a song with a DJ go to
Speaker 1: the song with a band? Band know which which?
Speaker 2: Which?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 2: Different songs? It's the same one. Enjoy the Night? You
Speaker 2: mean go to for him to form?
Speaker 1: You know, like you know that's that.
Speaker 2: I do a song called Enjoy the Night and it's
Speaker 2: it's the album.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could do it either way, but I like
Speaker 3: dealing with the band because there's like different layers that
Speaker 3: we can add to it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, enjoy the Night is crazy, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. With the live band.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course that the DJ favorite one with the DJA.
Speaker 1: The state of hip hop versus exhibit So I I
Speaker 1: this is me being a fan boy the video. This
Speaker 1: is what you get now when you're walking through, it
Speaker 1: seems like it never was no take what you see
Speaker 1: what you get?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it seems like it never was no cut.
Speaker 2: Such a monumental video, bro, it's such a monumental video.
Speaker 1: It changed the world.
Speaker 2: I want to say hip hop. I don't said hip
Speaker 2: hop earlier, but I was so much changed.
Speaker 1: It changed the world in general. It changed cinematography because hmm,
Speaker 1: if there was a cut, I can't see it to
Speaker 1: this day. Okay, let me tell you how we did it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was thirteen cuts in what you see is what
Speaker 1: you get. I'm not telling to continue. Yeah, man, let
Speaker 1: them because it's smoking on my childhood.
Speaker 3: There was thirteen cuts. Thirteen I know because we made
Speaker 3: them together. A guy named Gregory Dark was the director
Speaker 3: for that video, and I couldn't get anybody else at
Speaker 3: the time video directors to follow what I wanted to do.
Speaker 2: This is the idea, yes, right, scripted out correct?
Speaker 1: Okay, So Gregory Gregory Dark was a porn director, that's all.
Speaker 1: He comes back a lot of porn going on and exhibited. Okay,
Speaker 1: different director, the same one, right, the same one, different
Speaker 1: different poor director Ron Tower was different. Gregory Dark is
Speaker 1: a different porn director.
Speaker 3: So Gregory Dark was doing you know, kind of skin
Speaker 3: flicks and whatnot and so flicks. So he was trying
Speaker 3: to do he was trying to break into you know,
Speaker 3: like regular stuff. So he took on the video and
Speaker 3: so he actually came up with the sequence to do
Speaker 3: the thirteen shots.
Speaker 2: He said, we're going to do it with wipes. So
Speaker 2: what we did was we.
Speaker 3: We figured out we walked the we walked the path first,
Speaker 3: we walked the path and found out cut points from
Speaker 3: all of I don't even know if I should be
Speaker 3: telling niggas how to do this. But we walked the
Speaker 3: path and we showed later right right right, right right.
Speaker 3: We kind of walked each found the perfect cut point right,
Speaker 3: so we knew when we want to go inside and outside.
Speaker 3: So that's how we got from inside the house outside
Speaker 3: on the street, down the street inside. So the cut
Speaker 3: was the cuts were like outside the house, there's one cut.
Speaker 3: When the guy jumps out of the truck, that's one cut.
Speaker 3: Then when we get to the other truck, when the
Speaker 3: car passes in front of me, that's the that's the
Speaker 3: third cut. When we get walking to the when we
Speaker 3: walk into the place, that's the fourth cut. When I
Speaker 3: get on the stage, that's the fifth cut. Wow, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. When when when I when I
Speaker 3: when I come off the stage and walk past the girl,
Speaker 3: that's the sixth cut. When Flavored Flas walks up, You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, that's the seventh cut.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When alcoholists pull off and I turn around and I
Speaker 1: pick up the dollar off the floor, that's the eighth cut.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then when when I walk when I walk past the.
Speaker 3: Car there if you look in the back. Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: going tell you something else. Go back and watch that
Speaker 3: video when you look when when when I pick up
Speaker 3: the dollar and the the guys start coming off the
Speaker 3: roof and I start walking off of of of the UK,
Speaker 3: walking past the police car. A guy actually gets hit
Speaker 3: by the police car flies him in the air. You
Speaker 3: don't see it because you're looking at me walking. But
Speaker 3: if you look at that car, a motherfucker actually put
Speaker 3: it there. He gets up and starts walking. That's why
Speaker 3: we get to use it. Right, listen, listen, this is great.
Speaker 2: No, listen, listen. That wasn't real life though, right, that's
Speaker 2: that's real life. Fuck it, fuck go listen, go look
Speaker 2: back at the video. So we should have pulled it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: The other will call a car blowing up and so
Speaker 3: like walking out of the store, that's thirteen it's thirteen shots.
Speaker 3: But there's so many things.
Speaker 1: When I jump out the window, when the guy jumps
Speaker 1: out the.
Speaker 2: Window with a box and a box tips over.
Speaker 3: The box is empty, but you don't even see that,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, look at that boom
Speaker 3: he jumps out and the box is empty. There's so
Speaker 3: many like things in the video that you just do
Speaker 3: pass that people just see this great video, but I'm
Speaker 3: seeing like the things that did.
Speaker 1: It was like the Mario Brothers correct, like like you
Speaker 1: know how Mario Brothers like you go back and look
Speaker 1: at Mario Brothers, be like, I missed this, mushroom, I
Speaker 1: missed this. But I'm being honest because I looked. I
Speaker 1: really like, I was like, yo, you change how hip
Speaker 1: hop does videos. Like it wasn't a commercial record, it
Speaker 1: was a straight talking to your record, but then hip
Speaker 1: hop had to deal with reality at that moment. How
Speaker 1: you did it?
Speaker 2: You changed hip hop? Well you know that.
Speaker 3: I know you humble, yeah, but you know you got
Speaker 3: to look, you know, you got to look at some
Speaker 3: of the other groundbreaking videos in hip hop, like you know,
Speaker 3: like if you look at the Far Side Drop video
Speaker 3: when they did everything backwards.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, is that where your
Speaker 1: idea came?
Speaker 2: No, No, not at all that was done before.
Speaker 1: Who I did was this is it? Which was just
Speaker 1: that was my idea because yeah, yeah, I wanted a
Speaker 1: one shot video all the way through, right, and so
Speaker 1: legend I kept trying to explain it to people, and
Speaker 1: nobody got it.
Speaker 2: But Greg can we dark? Nobody?
Speaker 3: Everybody was telling me, Oh, it's too expensive, you can't
Speaker 3: do it, it's not going to happen. He did it,
Speaker 3: and we did it with a very small budget.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, yeah, so it was dope. You changed the
Speaker 1: fucking game.
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Man that makes a noise from on the Actually, zer man,
Speaker 1: did you ever think of hip hop would make it
Speaker 1: this far? Like right now with our biggest debate is
Speaker 1: Kendrick on the super Bowl? Like that's hard?
Speaker 2: I mean, got what side are you on?
Speaker 1: Yeah? The actual argument is hard?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: No, I mean absolutely nobody knows where hip hop is going, right,
Speaker 3: that's real.
Speaker 2: Nobody knows.
Speaker 3: You know, it may make a resurgence in some in
Speaker 3: a way that global, it's don't even know where it's
Speaker 3: going global, correct, globally like people have their hometown heroes
Speaker 3: around the world.
Speaker 2: Right, So you know, I don't know where hip hop
Speaker 2: is going.
Speaker 1: But I know, being a fifty year old genre, we
Speaker 1: definitely made an impact and we definitely have a lot
Speaker 1: more of growth to take place. But do I know
Speaker 1: where it's going? I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I don't understand what happens last week, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But I do know that the impact that
Speaker 3: we've been able to have in hip hop is important
Speaker 3: and that I'm glad I was able to do it
Speaker 3: with the brothers that I was able to do it
Speaker 3: with and the sisters that I was able to do
Speaker 3: it with. And I can't wait to be able to
Speaker 3: see where this goes, you know, even after I'm done
Speaker 3: with hip hop or hip hop is done with me,
Speaker 3: whatever comes first, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 3: want to see what happens after this, Like what's what's
Speaker 3: the next chapter?
Speaker 1: What does it go?
Speaker 2: Does the Grammys, you know, become something hip that that Hammys?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do we separate genres in hip hop? Do we have
Speaker 3: adult contemporary? Do we have do we have new artists?
Speaker 3: Do we have It's hip hop expanding to the place
Speaker 3: where where we can actually have different things that, you know,
Speaker 3: like show where other people are at because even though
Speaker 3: it's a fifty year old genre, we're seeing the things.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like rock and roll has
Speaker 1: been around forever, you know, punk rock has been around forever. Right,
Speaker 1: everything is all designed and organized. Are we gonna do that?
Speaker 1: For us or are we gonna not let them do
Speaker 1: that for us?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Hip hop has for itself. Correct,
Speaker 2: we can't let them do it for us?
Speaker 1: Right right?
Speaker 2: Well who's who's us? That's the deciding factor. Okay, people
Speaker 2: that we want to tell?
Speaker 1: Wow, yind what do you want to be down with you? Man?
Speaker 2: It's nothing. I can't do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't do that.
Speaker 2: Remember your.
Speaker 1: Little bit?
Speaker 3: Nothing tell you truth, not a little bit. He don't
Speaker 3: do it a little bit man, I mean nigga. Hey man,
Speaker 3: look I let my sh your go.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't give I definitely don't give a Yeah.
Speaker 1: We know you'renger, but why what? Why? Why? Because I
Speaker 1: want to be one my time. I want like a
Speaker 1: mother ask the motherfucker? Man?
Speaker 2: Yo, is anything you want to say to your fans?
Speaker 2: Please just get about it?
Speaker 1: Man, I love y'all.
Speaker 2: Man, hold us do one shot?
Speaker 1: That's what we'll do.
Speaker 2: One shot?
Speaker 1: Yo?
Speaker 12: Man?
Speaker 1: Are we doing at shot? Shot? Out of here? All right?
Speaker 2: To to two little gents, two little gims? What do
Speaker 2: you mean one little jim little too little jit? Hey man,
Speaker 2: Jimmy got us locked.
Speaker 1: Down man, man.
Speaker 2: Like ju machine?
Speaker 1: Yo yo, yo yo how dope was seeing Jimmy I
Speaker 1: bean man, Yo, man.
Speaker 3: Yo, it's always dope to see the You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, the man show up, can ask.
Speaker 2: You a question?
Speaker 6: How did you get to that front row? Because I mean,
Speaker 6: I'm saying this out of ignorance. We just show up
Speaker 6: and you were in the front row.
Speaker 2: Happened?
Speaker 6: Jimmy's in the front row, big boys, We're like, oh, ship,
Speaker 6: how did that happen? We just walked in and open
Speaker 6: Come on, man, I'm just saying this someone yo, come
Speaker 6: through hang out.
Speaker 2: No, No, it was it was coordinated. That's that's what.
Speaker 12: I know.
Speaker 1: You literally said I love that. I was like, it
Speaker 1: was coordinated. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: We all came together, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: we all knew it was coming to that, Like we
Speaker 3: met up, you know, got together, rolled over together. I
Speaker 3: wanted to see the show. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: y'all y'all came out and actually killed that ship.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 3: Someone I'm telling you, like, listen, listen, listen, listen. I
Speaker 3: was laughing because of how I knew. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like Dre don't like to don't Drey does
Speaker 3: not like to be interviewed. So he gave y'all, yeah,
Speaker 3: but you know, you know.
Speaker 1: How to be a nigga.
Speaker 2: So I was like, that's what I want.
Speaker 3: I don't like his laughter helps us, yo, but but
Speaker 3: but but but y'all, y'all did a great interview with him.
Speaker 3: And to see them two together environment and listen ten
Speaker 3: oh man. Yeah, that was such a powerful moment.
Speaker 1: I called it gin bottle. Look.
Speaker 2: I talked to Big Boy.
Speaker 3: I was sitting right next to the Big Boy and uh,
Speaker 3: and I was I was like, Yo, this is a
Speaker 3: unicorn moment.
Speaker 1: It made me nervous.
Speaker 2: It was big Boy, Big Boys, a real interviewer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a unicorn. And he was there and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, ship, he's in the building. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like I look up to that shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, cool still chin, I didn't want to take it.
Speaker 2: Just shot you fucking right.
Speaker 1: We are like. I love how he always says no.
Speaker 1: Then he thinks he's like, I got like a little
Speaker 1: citrus way to it.
Speaker 2: Great story exhibit. Yeah I know, but.
Speaker 1: You don't know. Yeah He's like, yeah, huh, you might
Speaker 1: have not seen a different liquor on this episode. But
Speaker 1: now we got gin Jen on every episode, Press and
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