WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And

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<v Speaker 3>today we are going to be discussing a cult classic,

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<v Speaker 3>the nineteen sixty five let's see, what would you call it?

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<v Speaker 3>The Go Go murder exploitation film Faster Pussycat Kill Kill.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm to understand a favorite of many filmmakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially a filmmaker John Waters. He is the ultimate

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<v Speaker 2>champion of this film. And I'm going to be touching

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<v Speaker 2>in on his thoughts regarding this film several times, especially

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<v Speaker 2>in the run up to the plot here. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a very well known cult classic film. And

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<v Speaker 2>as we are approaching the Halloween season here, Joe, when

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<v Speaker 2>I had this discussion, like, well, maybe we should we

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<v Speaker 2>should have avoid doing horror movies until we get either

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<v Speaker 2>to October itself or right to the edge of October,

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<v Speaker 2>so as to enhance the punch of all that horror.

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<v Speaker 2>So last week we did The Man Who Fell to

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<v Speaker 2>Earth science fiction drama, and this week, yeah, it is

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<v Speaker 2>basically a crime yarn, a sixties go go dancer desert

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<v Speaker 2>crime movie.

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<v Speaker 3>What brought you to this pic, rub, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember specifically.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those that I've always been aware of,

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<v Speaker 2>just because it does have a its B cinema cult

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<v Speaker 2>following footprint firmly. It was more of a bootprint firmly implanet,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in the face of the American public. So

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been vaguely aware of it, and I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>samples from it, seen some stills from it, but I've

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<v Speaker 2>never watched it in its entirety. And yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I was just I did a quick brainstorm. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's something that doesn't have horror, What's something even further

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have a speculative element at all that would still

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<v Speaker 2>fit the profile for weird house cinema. And I was like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's got to be faster. Pussycat Kill Kill.

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<v Speaker 3>I had never seen this movie before a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>days ago, and I was very impressed by it in

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<v Speaker 3>multiple respects. But one of the ways it impressed me

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<v Speaker 3>was how entertaining it is for a B movie. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>we love B movies, but a common problem with a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of B movies is that they they often have

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<v Speaker 3>dull stretches. Not all but a lot. You often get

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<v Speaker 3>the sense that, like, you know, a B movie director

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<v Speaker 3>is trying to like work up to the monster scene

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<v Speaker 3>and that's really what they're excited about, and they're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>before we do that, we got to have like a

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<v Speaker 3>love scene here. We gotta have like a character explaining

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<v Speaker 3>how the monster was made to kind of dry, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a scientist explaining the origin of the monster whatever. And

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<v Speaker 3>these scenes feel kind of perfunctory. It's just like they're

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<v Speaker 3>even the director is not very excited about them. They're

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to get through them to show you the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that's that you're really here for. This film was

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<v Speaker 3>made with the idea, yeah, clearly that every moment should

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<v Speaker 3>be thrilling and entertaining in some way, even when it's

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of routine plot execution or just exposition that's

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<v Speaker 3>setting up later scenes. The script is written in such

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<v Speaker 3>a way that, like every line a character says is

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<v Speaker 3>weird in a way that makes the scene entertaining. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I think the sensibility that russ Meyer and from what

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<v Speaker 3>I've read, russ Meyer to a great extent credits one

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<v Speaker 3>of the main cast members Tasatana as also being a

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<v Speaker 3>sort of a truth not just a member of the cast,

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<v Speaker 3>but a true like creative influence behind like the movie

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<v Speaker 3>and its style. Whoever's responsible for the dialogue in each

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<v Speaker 3>scene knew that it is more important to be entertaining

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<v Speaker 3>than to be realistic. And I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think this is a strong point. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you even see it in the title, Like the title

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<v Speaker 2>is faster pussy Cat Kill Kill, And I've read that,

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<v Speaker 2>like the whole take on this is that like you have,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a hint of sex in the title, you

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<v Speaker 2>have speed, you know, racing in the title, and you

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<v Speaker 2>have murder and death in the title. And it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>actually make all that much sense as a statement or

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<v Speaker 2>a title. Like John Waters, when we're in writing about

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<v Speaker 2>the film, often refers to the gang of three here

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<v Speaker 2>as the Pussycats. I don't think they ever refer to

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<v Speaker 2>themselves as such, but you know, fair enough, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>but you do have to sort of twist the title

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<v Speaker 2>to make it work in a literal sense. Now, as

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<v Speaker 2>we'll discuss, this is certainly a film produced through the

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<v Speaker 2>male gaze. It's about go go dancers starring go go dancers,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least two of them, and while it's not

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<v Speaker 2>as provocative as you might expect by modern standards. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a mid nineteen sixties movie that was shown

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<v Speaker 2>at the drive in. You know, it's still clearly intended

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<v Speaker 2>to titillate, but it's also action packed. And it's especially

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to read various reviews that talk about it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of dual nature because at the time of its release, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people saw it as just a sexist

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<v Speaker 2>B movie, and a lot of people didn't like it

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<v Speaker 2>to understand, it didn't actually perform all that well, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was later embraced as this kind of iconic counterculture

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<v Speaker 2>film with a grandiose vision of female power to match

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<v Speaker 2>the grandiose visions of masculine power found just everywhere else

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<v Speaker 2>in cinema. So this is this film that has been

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<v Speaker 2>very influential. It was a major inspiration for Quentin Tarantino's

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<v Speaker 2>Death Proof from two thousand and seven, and both Tarantino

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<v Speaker 2>and more recently actor Norman Retis have expressed an interest

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<v Speaker 2>in remaking it in one form or another. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you can ask a lot of questions about what form

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<v Speaker 2>a remake of Faster Pussycat Kill Kill would take. In

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty first century, but you know, maybe they have

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<v Speaker 2>a particular vision or visions in mind.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually thinking, without knowing that, I was thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about Quentin Tarantino when I thought about modern filmmakers who

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<v Speaker 3>had clearly been inspired by this movie. I can see

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<v Speaker 3>direct lines of influence going from this movie to Yes

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<v Speaker 3>to Death proove his half of the release that was

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<v Speaker 3>originally called Grind Grindhouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what it was called, Yes Grindhouse.

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<v Speaker 3>But then also to the kill Bill series that there

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<v Speaker 3>is some strong shared material there. Of course, I knew

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<v Speaker 3>about the John Waters connection, and we can talk some

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<v Speaker 3>more about some things that come through in John Waters

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<v Speaker 3>films as well that that seemed to be inspired by

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<v Speaker 3>this movie. But coming back to your comment about Norman

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<v Speaker 3>read Us, I have to lodge a complaint that is

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<v Speaker 3>not about this movie, but about how Google search results are.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>We were just recently talking about how, for some reason

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<v Speaker 3>it seems like Google search results are just getting worse

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<v Speaker 3>and worse. I think I don't know exactly the reason

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<v Speaker 3>for this, but I would suspect it has to do

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<v Speaker 3>with just like the Web is getting worse and worse,

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<v Speaker 3>more packed with junk, and you know, search engine gaming

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<v Speaker 3>AI generated content and garbage. So the other day, when

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<v Speaker 3>I just googled this movie, Faster Pussycat Kill Kill the

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<v Speaker 3>top result, What do you think it should be? An

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<v Speaker 3>image of the poster of the movie, an image of

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<v Speaker 3>the cast of the movie, or a promo still from it. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a picture of Norman riatas oh Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I love Norman Reada's a very fun actor,

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<v Speaker 2>have been in a lot of things I love. But

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<v Speaker 2>come on, now, coming back to John Waters, I did

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<v Speaker 2>pick up his book Shock Value where he talked He

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<v Speaker 2>talked about a lot of things in that book, but

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<v Speaker 2>he does specifically talk a little bit about Faster pussy

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<v Speaker 2>Cat Kill Kill. He writes that this film, russ Meyer's

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<v Speaker 2>tenth film quote is beyond a doubt, the best movie

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<v Speaker 2>ever made. It is possibly better than any film that

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<v Speaker 2>will be made in the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't try to argue with him. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>get pulled into this. He's had more practice having this

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<v Speaker 3>conversation than you have.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. I mean, yeah, Like I said, he's the ultimate

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<v Speaker 2>champion of this film, and I think the ultimate expert

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<v Speaker 2>on it. He has meditated on this movie more than

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<v Speaker 2>any other person. In this book, he goes on to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about how initially he was drawn in by the

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<v Speaker 2>radio ads during the film's initial release. They promised that

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<v Speaker 2>the movie would leave a taste of evil in your mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he went and saw it, and he fell

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<v Speaker 2>in love the picture and ended up seeing it every

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<v Speaker 2>night at the local drive in, often alone, for the

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<v Speaker 2>remainder of its run there. So he cites this movie

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<v Speaker 2>as the primary influence on all of his characters in

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<v Speaker 2>all of his films.

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<v Speaker 3>I can absolutely see that in many ways, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think he so. In one sense. You can see the

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<v Speaker 3>similarity in the way that John Waters movies, I think

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<v Speaker 3>often go for that feeling of trying to make every

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<v Speaker 3>single moment interesting and entertaining rather than going for realism obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it's like more important that a character say

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<v Speaker 3>something that is shocking or funny or entertaining in some

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<v Speaker 3>way than that they like strictly stay in character or

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, do something that would be realistic. But

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<v Speaker 3>another big similarity I see is this may be a

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<v Speaker 3>weird thing to single out, but I think you'll have

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<v Speaker 3>to agree with me, is in a very strange and

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<v Speaker 3>idiosyncratic style of line delivery that is characteristic of this movie,

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<v Speaker 3>like especially Taurusitana, but also the character Billy. They have

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<v Speaker 3>this way of saying lines where they're almost not really

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<v Speaker 3>acting them. They are just like shouting their lines, like

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<v Speaker 3>just spitting them out with this forceful, venomous, high octane

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<v Speaker 3>delivery for every line, just the same every time. And

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<v Speaker 3>that comes through in a lot of performances in John

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<v Speaker 3>Waters movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, this this feeling, especially in this movie, that

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<v Speaker 2>it often feel any given scene will often feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a pro wrestling promo, you know, it has that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of energy. It maybe one note, but that note is

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<v Speaker 2>played super loud and there's no missing it and it delivers.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something about that character very loudly.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm specifically thinking of a lot of divines. Line

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<v Speaker 3>delivery and pink flamingos feels like Varla's line delivery in

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<v Speaker 3>this movie. Yeah, yeah, I think there's a direct connection there.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll keep coming back to some Waters quotes because

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<v Speaker 3>again I think he's the authority on all these all

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<v Speaker 3>things faster, pussy, get, kill, Kill. But as we normally

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<v Speaker 3>we'd touch in the elevator pitch, I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 3>read you how John Waters describes this movie as a

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<v Speaker 3>quote violent gothic melodrama built around three bisexual, psychotic go

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<v Speaker 3>go girls, Varla, Billy, and Rosie. There's an interesting angle

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<v Speaker 3>that the movie approaches you with, and I wonder what

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<v Speaker 3>you think about this, rob It almost feels like it's

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<v Speaker 3>trying to imply that this movie is connected to current events,

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<v Speaker 3>and those current events, which you must have seen in

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<v Speaker 3>the news, are that now everyday women are are like

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<v Speaker 3>breaking men's necks in the desert. It's just something that's

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<v Speaker 3>happening in this crazy world we live in today, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is a movie about that phenomenon. But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that there really was a phenomenon to base this on.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe it's exploiting a little bit this idea

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<v Speaker 2>that they actually you call out in some dialogue in

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<v Speaker 2>the film, or it's like women or they're doing all

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<v Speaker 2>these things now that they didn't used to do. In

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things is perpetrating violent crimes in the desert.

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<v Speaker 2>You've come a long way, baby.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm sure it happens sometimes, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>get the feeling that this was like there was a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden spike in the sixties of women just doing assassinations

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<v Speaker 3>related to auto racing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I mean obviously, Yeah, women have always engaged in

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<v Speaker 2>murder and violence just as men have. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>have tales in the Old Testament and various myths and

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<v Speaker 2>legends and so forth. There are plenty of there have

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<v Speaker 2>been plenty of varlas throughout history. All right, let's go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and listen to the trailer audio for a faster

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<v Speaker 2>pussycat kill kill.

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<v Speaker 4>If you want, ladies and gentlemen, gold gold for a

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<v Speaker 4>wild wild ride with the watusie cats. But beware, the

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<v Speaker 4>sweetest kittens have the sharpest claw or your own safety.

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<v Speaker 4>See Faster pussy Cats Kill kill, wild women, wild wheels,

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<v Speaker 4>Race the fastest pussy cats and they'll be Jill, not dead,

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<v Speaker 4>sober woman, faulted, wild and FOTD.

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<v Speaker 3>You're plating yourself on this kid, then hanging itself for nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>For nothing, got nothing to do with the money jeers.

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<v Speaker 4>The money Jack and Jill. They make them Moffia look

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<v Speaker 4>like Brownie must have all. Yeah, ten percent of your

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<v Speaker 4>action be enough for anyone, too much for one man

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<v Speaker 4>to handle. And again you never can town. You girls

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of newdists. You just uh short of clothes

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<v Speaker 4>right now, You're first on my list, and I always

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<v Speaker 4>got top. You'll only go one chill and your channel's

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<v Speaker 4>busy tune in and outside. You really shippy, am benefm?

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<v Speaker 2>So who do I get to take care of the

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<v Speaker 2>muscle man?

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<v Speaker 4>You got two of everything and some left over?

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<v Speaker 2>You did one?

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<v Speaker 1>You want a big crust or side darling?

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<v Speaker 4>Why did you take one of each? Son? A? Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>both look tender. He's got a big motor to feed.

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<v Speaker 3>But did you you did?

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<v Speaker 2>My mother never wrote shot baby rock would.

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<v Speaker 4>Be rough the last time.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, here's how it works.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody's gotta go your name it. We've got faster pussy hats, kills,

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<v Speaker 4>delivers tone board on the opposition on ladylike karate chops,

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<v Speaker 4>ungentlemanly haymaker, spirited gymnastics, corrective table attic sandbox jousting, or

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<v Speaker 4>a muscle bound chat wrestling with a roaring sports car

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<v Speaker 4>that's intent upon squashing him like a grape bazaar kidney

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<v Speaker 4>and chessie rattling chases and for the first time on

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<v Speaker 4>the screen, a hay making, belly busting, karate chopping, judo

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<v Speaker 4>flipping fight. Go in them all, sober woman against man,

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<v Speaker 4>the prize life itself slashing, tackling, gouging, hacking, clipping, felting, smashing,

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<v Speaker 4>and muscle to muscle, bone to bowl or an incredible

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<v Speaker 4>evenings entertainment. A film so totally satisfying see Russ Meyer Faster,

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<v Speaker 4>pussy Cat Kill.

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<v Speaker 2>Chill See really sells it. You can you can imagine

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<v Speaker 2>being the young John Waters hearing that or some version

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<v Speaker 2>of that trailer for the first time. All right, as

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<v Speaker 2>for availability on this one, I do wish it was

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<v Speaker 2>easier to get a copy of it or to have

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<v Speaker 2>an official stream of the movie. It doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 2>be widely available on disc right now, and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>find an official stream video Drum has a copy of

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<v Speaker 2>it here in Atlanta. But yeah, I've given this film's

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<v Speaker 2>cult status. Would I would want it to be more

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<v Speaker 2>available than it is. But if you look hard enough,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can probably find it somewhere. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you need a break and go see this movie, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>come back. We're going to talk about the cast and

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<v Speaker 2>some of the filmmakers, and then from there we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get into a more spoilery discussion of the plot.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, let's start, yeah at the top, with

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<v Speaker 2>the director, the producer of the editor. He also is

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<v Speaker 2>a story credit. It's Russ Meyer, who lived nineteen twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two through two thousand and four, American exploitation director known

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<v Speaker 2>for camp, be sex ploit tis films from the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifties through the nineteen eighties, with a couple of brief

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<v Speaker 2>returns after that. He directed the nineteen seventy film Beyond

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<v Speaker 2>the Valley of the Dolls, the only film that film

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<v Speaker 2>critic Roger Ebert ever wrote.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that movie was also not super well received

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<v Speaker 3>when it came out, but I've heard people kind of

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate it now. It's also allegedly just wild. The moment

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<v Speaker 3>to moment weirdness quotient is apparently quite high.

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<v Speaker 2>So Meyer's film immediately prior to Faster Pussycat was nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five's Motor Psycho same year, same release year, about

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<v Speaker 2>a violent gang of male bikers, so he essentially flipped

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<v Speaker 2>the script on that for this movie, focusing on female

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<v Speaker 2>characters instead. His films are often categorized as being very

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<v Speaker 2>technically proficient, ludicrous in their dialogue, campy, and often using leering,

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<v Speaker 2>low angle shots, but those low angle shots often do

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<v Speaker 2>create this sense of weird kind of almost like mythic tension,

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<v Speaker 2>like it makes it makes the characters in the film

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<v Speaker 2>feel larger than life. I mean not just their physical bodies,

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<v Speaker 2>but like their their sort of hero or villain status.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say that russ Meyer's style is very much

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<v Speaker 3>in that category of schlock, but not hack. Somebody who

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<v Speaker 3>is creating what is supposed to be you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>lowbrow exploitation cinema, but who actually is bringing quite a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of style and in a weird way you could

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<v Speaker 3>almost say say taste to the experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I say, never a dull moment. If nothing else,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just wondering what are these characters going to say next,

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<v Speaker 2>And at any moment someone might get like slapped in

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<v Speaker 2>the face as well. Again, John Waters idolized russ Meyer,

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<v Speaker 2>called him quote the good old boy of exploitation films,

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<v Speaker 2>and in Waters' view on things, quote exploitation films are

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<v Speaker 2>the only ones that come close to that dreaded word art.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an interesting idea. I almost feel like I've heard

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<v Speaker 3>John Waters talk about this in some other context, that

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<v Speaker 3>there's almost kind of a like a horseshoe theory of taste,

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<v Speaker 3>where for some reason, a lot of people who seem

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<v Speaker 3>to have some of the highest tolerance for I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>avant garde art and you know, the like the I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what you call it, the kind of fine

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<v Speaker 3>art that really asks you to be open minded and

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<v Speaker 3>go outside of your comfort zone. For some reason, are

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<v Speaker 3>also often people who are into very low brow B

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<v Speaker 3>movie type stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's sort of you know, putting yourself in

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<v Speaker 2>a place of open minded vulnerability where art can potentially

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<v Speaker 2>hurt you. But like it's it's what does it make

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<v Speaker 2>me feel? It's creating feelings and then I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>make sense of those feelings. Yeah, it's not unlike the

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<v Speaker 2>place you have to put yourself in with various exploitation films,

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<v Speaker 2>though to be sure, not all exploitation films are created

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<v Speaker 2>equal and in many different ways. All right, Moving on

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<v Speaker 2>to the screenplay itself, written by Jackie Moran, who lived

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty three through nineteen ninety. As a writer, he

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<v Speaker 2>only worked on a handful of produced screenplays, all russ

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<v Speaker 2>Meyer pictures, but as an actor, his credits go back

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<v Speaker 2>to Believe the mid nineteen thirties. As a child and

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<v Speaker 2>youth actor appeared in various old serials such as Buck Rogers,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as a nineteen thirty eight adaptation of the

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<v Speaker 2>Adventures of Tom Sawyer. Oh and he was also in

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<v Speaker 2>a nineteen thirty nine film called Gone with the Wind.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mentioned that a lot of what makes this

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<v Speaker 3>movie unique is the high grit of the script, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like the way that each line just kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>grips you and rubs your brain. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>exactly where to put the credit for this. It should

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<v Speaker 3>should we be thinking about this as like a feature

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<v Speaker 3>of Jackie Moran's screenplay, or since this seems to be,

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<v Speaker 3>from what I've read, a characteristic of Russ Meyer films,

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<v Speaker 3>is this something that's coming more from Meyer's influence? But

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<v Speaker 3>then again, as I said, also, I've read that that

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<v Speaker 3>tourist Satana is usually given credit for shaping a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the tone and style of the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you probably want to side with Varlain

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<v Speaker 2>this one, because otherwise she's gonna chop you and Kidney.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, it does seem like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>those lines are coming from the heart. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a lot of clarity on this, but I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of have the suspicion that the screenplay was one place,

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<v Speaker 2>and then maybe the actors and or the director on

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<v Speaker 2>the set kind of like punch things in a different direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, let's talk about Toura Satana, not Santana, as

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<v Speaker 2>I sometimes keep mispronouncing it. This is this is her

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<v Speaker 2>show name. Lean into the sort of evil nature of

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<v Speaker 2>her persona. So Satana lived nineteen thirty eight through twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, this she plays the leader of our gang

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<v Speaker 2>of three of violence loving fem fatale, criminal, mastermind, and

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<v Speaker 2>goth queen of the Desert. Satana was born Tura Yamaguchi.

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<v Speaker 2>She was a Japanese American exotic dancer and burlesque performer

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<v Speaker 2>turned actor. She started out in the early sixties with

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<v Speaker 2>bit parts for TV and film, including the TV series

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<v Speaker 2>hawaiian I and The Man from Uncle. Then came this film,

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<v Speaker 2>followed by an uncredited role as a dancer on sixty

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<v Speaker 2>six is Our Man Flint, and then the role of Satana,

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<v Speaker 2>essentially playing herself to some degree in the nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 2>eight low budget sci fi horror film The Astro Zombies

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<v Speaker 2>starring Wendell Corey and John Keradine.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a movie I have seen and remember almost nothing about,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a feature of most films I've seen starring

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<v Speaker 3>John Keradine.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, you know, Peep busted. He's in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of films, but he's in a lot of forgivable films,

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<v Speaker 2>It's true. Astro Zombies is definitely one of those. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a classic B movie in many ways. It has this

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<v Speaker 2>super cool mask, very cool poster, but as I remember it,

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<v Speaker 2>a very plotting pace. I believe Satana plays the Mad

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor's evil hinch woman, but I cannot remember a thing

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<v Speaker 2>that anyone does in this aside from you do get

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<v Speaker 2>some creeping astro zombies from time to time.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a Ted V. Michels movie, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so? So After this, she was in seventy

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<v Speaker 2>three Is the Doll Squad, a kind of Charlie's Angels

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<v Speaker 2>inspired romp. She left acting after that, but emerged again

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<v Speaker 2>in the two thousands, appearing in two thousand and fours,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark of the Astro Zombies, two thousand and nine, Sugar

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<v Speaker 2>Box Rob Zombies, The Haunted World of l Superbisto, and

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<v Speaker 2>Astro Zombies M three cloned in twenty ten. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what can you say though, she's a force of nature

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<v Speaker 2>in this movie, alluring intended, but also just believably mean

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<v Speaker 2>and above all cool, Like she's she's so cool that

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<v Speaker 2>even though she is and a lot of people have

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<v Speaker 2>pointed this out, like she is arguably the villain or

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<v Speaker 2>one of the two main villains in the picture, but

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, you're rooting for the whole time,

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<v Speaker 2>or I was. It's like, even if she's engaging and

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<v Speaker 2>kidnapping and mass murder, I'm kind of on team Varla

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<v Speaker 2>the whole way. And Yeah, it's just an amazing performance

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't look away, you can't stop listening. What

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<v Speaker 2>is she going to say next? Who is she going

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<v Speaker 2>to hit next?

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<v Speaker 3>I love how she's just automatically immediately rude to everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes she is. She's rude and cutting to everyone. No

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<v Speaker 2>one is safe, and it's just one step away from

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<v Speaker 2>murder at all times.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, I'm pretty sure in all her fight and action scenes,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not looking at a stunt double, are we.

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<v Speaker 2>No. No, I believe she did all her own stunts,

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<v Speaker 2>And to understand, she also did her own fight choreography.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we see her beaten up various folks and

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<v Speaker 2>throwing them to the ground and chopping them like she

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<v Speaker 2>she brought the technique.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think of another movie. I know there

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<v Speaker 3>are movies like this. I can't call examples to mind

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<v Speaker 3>right now of a movie where really, essentially the main

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<v Speaker 3>character is also the main villain and you're just you're

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<v Speaker 3>basically on their side and seeing the world through their eyes,

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<v Speaker 3>even though they are in a technical sense, the bad

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<v Speaker 3>guy that must be defeated at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like what we discussed talking about Riddick, there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>always this temptation to to have this sort of redemption

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<v Speaker 2>arc to your your antihero, and that is not what

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<v Speaker 2>goes on here. Yeah. You know, you might be fooled

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<v Speaker 2>into thinking that's where it's going at some point, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>She does not get a heart. She is not a

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<v Speaker 3>go go dancer assassin with a heart of gold. She

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<v Speaker 3>has a heart of a drain cleaner. I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>a heart of the most caustic, toxic substance. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 3>could say she has a heart of raid on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, So she's the leader of our trio

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<v Speaker 2>of go go witches here, our gang of three. Up

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<v Speaker 2>next is the character Rosie played by the actor Hodgi.

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<v Speaker 2>Hodgi is her screen name and based on her New

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<v Speaker 2>York Times oh bit from twenty thirteen. This was a

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<v Speaker 2>nickname that her uncle gave to her. So she was

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<v Speaker 2>born Barbarella Katon in nineteen forty six. So Canadian American

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<v Speaker 2>dancer turned actor. She also appeared in Motorcyco. She also

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<v Speaker 2>pops up and Beyond the Valley of the Dolls. She

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<v Speaker 2>was in nineteen seventies Bigfoot starring John Carradine once more

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<v Speaker 2>Christopher Mitcham as well. She was also She also pops up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of in the background in some bigger films,

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<v Speaker 2>like she's in John Cassavetti's The Killing of a Chinese

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Bookie from seventy six starring Ben Gazzara. It's like a

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<v Speaker 2>bit roll as a dancer. She also pops up in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen eighty one horror film Demonoid starring Samantha Agger.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen part of this. This is like set in

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico and has some sort of a demonic disembodied hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh demonic hand movie, you know what. We've mentioned so

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<v Speaker 3>many of those in passing in episodes since we did

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<v Speaker 3>The Beast with Five Fingers and Mad Love. I wonder

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<v Speaker 3>if we should just do a whole like Hand Monster series.

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<v Speaker 2>We easily could. Yeah, there are a number of of

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<v Speaker 2>I mean a number of them are based on the

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<v Speaker 2>Hands of Warlock and part of that direct tradition. But then, yeah,

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:35.199
<v Speaker 2>you have other films like the Michael Kane filmed The

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<v Speaker 2>Hand and so forth.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that the one directed by Oliver Stone?

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<v Speaker 2>It is? Yeah, Oliver Stone directed that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Where you find out that the CIA was actually behind

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<v Speaker 3>the Hand all along.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's a rare you know, it's from

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<v Speaker 2>that period of time when he almost directed a Cone

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<v Speaker 2>in the Barbarian movie. All Right, So the character Rosy

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<v Speaker 2>in this different, different style, different presentation, she is she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't really have time for any of the app that's

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<v Speaker 2>going on in this movie. She isn't necessarily down with

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<v Speaker 2>all of Varla's violence, but she is devoted to Varla. Nonetheless.

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<v Speaker 2>Hodgy's performance is I would say, richly entertaining. At times,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like maybe the greenest she has this. I

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<v Speaker 2>think she's doing an Italian accent in this. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>entirely sure.

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 3>I interpreted it as an Italian accent, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, waters and shot in the in the book, I

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<v Speaker 2>referenced earlier, says quote, She's a mean Mexican with a

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<v Speaker 2>weakness for switchblades who emphasizes her many moments of disgust

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 2>by spitting or picking her teeth with whatever is handy.

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Yes, she she is the most disgusted of our three

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<v Speaker 3>anti heroes.

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is her. That is her one note played

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 2>loudly discussed, but also occasionally a little bit like. She's

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<v Speaker 2>the only one of the three that also shows like

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of empathy or even remorse at times.

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>So in a weird way, she has more her role

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 2>has more range.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, she's the only one of the three that

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<v Speaker 3>seems to have any hint of a soul or kindness

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 3>at all. And it's not much of a hint, but

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 3>there's a little spark in there somewhere. She is often

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<v Speaker 3>set against the third of the gang, Billy. They're kind

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 3>of butting heads a lot of the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Billy is played by Laurie Williams born nineteen forty six.

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 2>He's our blonde, sassy, provocative, wise cracking, sensation junkie. He's

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 2>just always down for a swim or some just extracurricular dancing, fighting,

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 2>a little racing, you know whatever, whatever, She's up for anything.

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 2>She's also ridiculously laugh out loud seductive in a manner

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>that reminds me of Gina Moroney from thirty Rock. So

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 2>many moments where she's being sexy and it's just hysterical.

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 3>She just like sees a man with muscles fifty feet

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<v Speaker 3>away and it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, hot stuff, yeah, exactly now. Williams was not a

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<v Speaker 2>go go dancer, but was a beach party film actor

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part. Her other credits include mostly dancer roles,

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<v Speaker 2>but in some notable films, including nineteen sixty three's The

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Prize starring Paul Newman, the Elvis movies Viva Las Vegas

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 2>and Kissing Cousins in sixty four, as well as the

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Elvis movies Girl Happy and Tickle Me, both in sixty five,

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>So multiple Elvis movies here. She's an arman Flint in

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 2>sixty six. She has a passenger role as an extra

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy two is The Poseidon Adventure, and an

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 2>uncredited victim role in nineteen seventy fours, ninety nine and

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>forty four Out of One hundred Percent Dead, directed by

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 2>John Frankenheimer and starring Richard Harris Waters in Shock Value says, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>Billy is the film of the group, the main things

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 2>on her mind being sex and alcohol. In her white

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 2>short shorts, haltertop, and knee high patent leather go go boots,

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Billy is forever breaking into torrid go go steps whenever

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 2>trouble arises.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so they're professional go go dancers, but Billy likes

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<v Speaker 3>to go go dance when they're off the clock, and

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 3>her gang, her fellow gang members will say, you know, hey,

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 3>why are you doing that? You know that's we left

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 3>that behind at work, and she's like, I do what

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 3>I want.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, she does. In a way like she's

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the perfect opposite but equal of Varla because they both

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 2>do whatever they want. They have their own compass, but

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 2>the things they want to do are drastically different.

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so we've got our vicious, murdering gang of go

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 3>go dancers. We got to have some innocent people in

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 3>here to be victimized by them, right.

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 2>That's right, and so that the main victim being Linda,

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<v Speaker 2>played by Subernard who lived nineteen forty eight through twenty nineteen.

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 2>She plays likable American every girl and the gang of

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 2>three are of course not impressed with her here, but

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Bernard has the interesting history. She was the daughter of

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 2>legendary glamour and pin up photographer Bruno Bernard. She was

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 2>an author, actress, model, and businesswoman. She was a playboy

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 2>model in nineteen sixty six. This was her first film role,

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 2>followed by a couple of notable films. I guess nineteen

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 2>sixty nine is the witch Maker in nineteen seventy two's Necromancy.

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 2>A noteworthy family connection is that at one point she

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<v Speaker 2>was married to actor and playwright Jason Miller, who, of

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 2>course is famous for having played Father Damien in The Exorcist. Ah, yes,

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 2>father kais Yeah, and their son is was actor Joshua

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 2>John Miller born nineteen seventy two. He has a number

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 2>of interesting credits, but his first film role as a

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 2>child actor was playing the hero's son Willie in Halloween

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>three Season of the Witch.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, wait, how many degrees of separation is that from

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 3>Halloween three to Faster pussy Cat? I guess it involves

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 3>a family connection.

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a family connection. So it's harder, but it's

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 2>it's close enough. It's in close orbit.

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm just imagining a film that could have been like

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 3>the Go Go Murder Gang here versus Tom Atkins from

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Halloween three. Doesn't doesn't he seem like the perfect victim

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 3>of their treachery.

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could see him taking a beating from this bunch. Now,

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 2>speaking of taking a beating, the character Linda has a

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend named Tommy, and Tommy is one of, if not

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 2>the only likable male characters in the whole picture. Withst

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 2>caveats will come back to that. He's a kind of

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 2>square and nice guy who just wants to work on

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>his car, improve his race time, and spend spend a

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 2>little quality time with his girlfriend Linda. He doesn't, you know,

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 2>leer at any of the women or speak to them

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 2>in a sexist manner, and you might think this means, well,

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 2>this might be the hero of our picture, but he's

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 2>certainly not. No.

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 3>No, he's a nice guy, which means he's marked for death.

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Mark for death. We'll get to that death in a

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 2>bit because it's pretty spectacular. Played by Ray Barlow. I

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 2>don't think any dates are known for this actor. This

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 2>was one of only four credits for him, alongside nineteen

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 2>sixty seven's a Countess from Hong Kong and the nineteen

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 2>seventy one TV series The Goodies. Oh and also a

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 2>single episode of Highway to Heaven from the late eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, now we do have another sort of villainous

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 2>trio to cancel out our main villainous trio. But these

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 2>are This is a male villainous trio of a family

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 2>they encounter in the desert, the leader of which is

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>the Old Man played by Stuart Lancaster, who lived nineteen

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 2>twenty through the year two thousand, American actor with credits

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 2>going back to the early sixties. He appears in the

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 2>original Outer Limits episode Tourist Attraction, but he's mostly known

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 2>for appearing in Russ Meyer films and various other exploitation titles. However,

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 2>you can also find him in such films as nineteen

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 2>seventy three's God Monster of Indian Flats and Tim Burton

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.359
<v Speaker 2>cast him in two films. He plays a retired man

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 2>in Edward Scissorhands, and he plays the Penguin's doctor and

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Batman returns what oh not a role I remember, but

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 2>you know I can. You can see the kind of

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 2>thing Tim Burton was going for. And that weird, weird

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Batman sequel Batman returns.

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Does we could do Batman returns on Weird House Cinema?

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 3>I think does Penguin go for a check op in there?

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 3>I really don't.

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember when this would be, if this would

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 2>be like a flashback to when he's a baby, like

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's the penguin's doctor, or maybe it's some time later,

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 2>because there's that whole yet intro to the character that

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 2>involves who isn't that who plays his father? Pee wee

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Herman plays his father? Yeah?

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'd forgotten that too. Well. So anyway, this character

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 3>of the Old Man, it's playing on the principle that

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 3>we talked about just recently with like a danger diabolic

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 3>in a movie where you have an anti hero, though

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you call Varla an anti hero,

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 3>just where you're like, main character is bad, it always

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 3>helps to up the ante by having to meet a

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 3>character who is much worse.

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so, yeah, our.

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Main characters character or characters are bad and they do murder.

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 3>But what if there's a somebody who also wants to

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 3>do murder but is even grosser.

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's that's the Old Man. As we'll discuss,

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>he's pretty villainous. He lives in the desert with two

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 2>of his sons, one of which but I forget if

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 2>he even has a name aside from the vegetable he's

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 2>They call him this because he's a doesn't say much,

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.399
<v Speaker 2>but he's a big muscle guy. And then the other son,

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 2>the elder of the two sons, is Kirk, played by

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Paul Trinka, who lived nineteen thirty two through nineteen seventy three.

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Mostly a bit player on TV, this is his most

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 2>well known role. He also appeared on Hawaii and I

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>My Three Sons, Gomer Pyle USMC, Voyage to the Bottom

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>of the Sea, Land of the Giants, and an episode

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:02.399
<v Speaker 2>of Night Gallery. Now we also hear a little bit

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 2>from the narrator. We'll touch on that in a second.

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:08.399
<v Speaker 2>The narrator for this film is John Furlong, who lived

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirty three through two thousand and eight American actor

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 2>who I believe got his start in Russ Meyer films

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.879
<v Speaker 2>and worked for him several times, you know, often being

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 2>dubbing the director's voice or being this narration voice. He

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 2>ultimately accumulated a lot of TV and film credits over

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 2>the course of his career, having appeared in the likes

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 2>of nineteen seventy four's Blazing Saddles, ninety four's Wiatter, and

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety eight Vampires, the John Carpenter film, along with

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.399
<v Speaker 2>many others. And as for the music on this one,

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:38.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to go into a lot of depth here,

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 2>but Ego Kantor was the music director who lived nineteen

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 2>thirty through twenty nineteen. Interesting fella in a name that

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 2>weird cinema fans may have noticed in the credits before,

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, sometimes kind of stands out. It worked a

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 2>lot doing the music for various films, but also was

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 2>a producer as far back as nineteen seventy one and

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 2>such films as Kingdom of the Spiders, nineteen seventy nine

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Is the Dark and nineteen eighty fours Mutant starring Wingshauser

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 2>and Bo Hopkins.

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 3>We could come back and do Kingdom of the Spiders

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 3>as well, because that is a killer tarantula movie starring

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 3>Captain Kirk.

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's also a reference to a Warren Zyvon Warren

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Yvon song. Rather so, I always like a nice musical

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 2>nod to be cinema. All right, shall we get into

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:30.720
<v Speaker 2>the plot.

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:32.879
<v Speaker 3>Yes, now, I think this is another movie where we're

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 3>not going to recount every scene in order. I think instead,

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 3>maybe we'll talk about the intro in some detail, maybe

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, the first chunk of the movie, and then

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 3>do a basic recap on everything else and then focus

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 3>on some things that stand out. But first thing, this

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 3>movie begins with a narration and has one of the

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 3>all time great opening lines I've heard in any film.

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes we hear that, rich Veld. The narrator's voice say,

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<v Speaker 2>ladies and gentlemen, welcome to violence.

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<v Speaker 3>To violence. It goes on to say the word and

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 3>the act. While Violence cloaks itself in a plethora of disguises,

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 3>its favorite mentals still remains sex. Huh. Okay, So the

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 3>opening narration here, It goes on for a while, and

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 3>there's while this guy's talking is just sort of a

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 3>black screen with these lines that are undulating as if

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 3>showing like a like an audiogram or something. You know,

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 3>they're they're vibrating with the sound of the narrator's voice.

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 3>And the narrator goes on to explain in a rather

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 3>wordy and roundabout manner that America's most trusted brand, violence

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 3>is still in business, but it is under new management. Women.

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 3>The narrator says, you know, you guys out there, you

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:58.240
<v Speaker 3>might think women are beautiful, you might think women are nice,

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 3>but also they will cut your head off with a

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 3>power saw. The women of today they murder all the time.

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:08.399
<v Speaker 2>That's right. Women are more dangerous than they've ever been

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 2>in human history. This is a new breed of violence out.

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<v Speaker 3>There, alrighty. And so the narration ends with him saying

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 3>who are they? One might be your secretary, your doctor's receptionist,

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 3>or a dancer in a go go club. Smash cut

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:25.320
<v Speaker 3>to a go go club.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this is where we get our first look

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:32.240
<v Speaker 2>at our trio of evil go go dancers here all

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 2>black and white sequins and tassels. Yeah, we had to

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 2>mention it already. This is a black and white film

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 2>and looks pretty gorgeous, and we have the theme song

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 2>playing in the background, but also we have do we

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 2>keep cutting to these brutish men who were chanting at them?

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 2>They're chanting go go And I was wondering, like, I

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 2>didn't even look this up though. Is this the origin

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 2>of the term go go dancer? It's just you're supposed

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 2>to yell go and shout go at them.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea. But also this scene is so

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<v Speaker 3>funny because of the lack of humor or enjoyment evident

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:14.720
<v Speaker 3>in the men who are shouting at the go go dancers.

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:18.919
<v Speaker 3>Just I have to applaud the deadly seriousness with which

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.399
<v Speaker 3>the dudes are shouting, go, let's go, come on go.

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 3>They sound like Hollywood cowboys yelling at their horses. And

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:28.879
<v Speaker 3>they're puffing on cigars by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, watching this, especially from a modern perspective,

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 2>you can't help but assume that the message here is

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 2>that men are gross and terrible, and that you're supposed

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 2>to take that with you into the film proper. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the film really presents us with any

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 2>any information to counter that thesis. But I just don't

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 2>know what was really intended by this.

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh do you mean, like maybe there's there's an unspoken

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 3>understanding that because in their day job, these women are

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 3>like dancing for these horrible creep all the time, and

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 3>so they take that with them to the other scenarios

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:06.439
<v Speaker 3>in their life, so like when they murder a man

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 3>in the desert, that they're sort of like seeing in

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 3>that man all of the like the go go guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know. I think one looks for

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 2>nuance in this film at their peril. You know, Varla

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 2>would not stand for that. You know, if I were

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 2>to broke that hypothesis, she would she would shot me

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 2>in the neck, so she would just kill you.

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:32.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is interesting, Like why do they seem so mad?

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, well they are also they're criminals. They're

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:39.759
<v Speaker 2>out for that. They want a quick score. Oh you're

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:40.720
<v Speaker 2>talking about the audience.

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean the guys they're yelling out. Why do they

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 3>sound angry?

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know, unless again, we're supposed to take

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 2>something home about this that that that men in general

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 2>are awful. So I don't know, worth something something we're

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 2>thinking about. But then again, this is a film that

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't think necessarily well, you know, it goes two ways.

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a film that is also about like

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 2>surface level interpretation. But this is a film that a

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 2>lot has been written about there. I glanced at a

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 2>number of serious film critic papers out there that in

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 2>papers that we're looking at this film and talking about

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 2>like gender dynamics and various forms of representation that are

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 2>going on in the film. So there is a lot

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:27.320
<v Speaker 2>to chew on. You can certainly have it both ways.

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.359
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, there's a very interesting duality and that in

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 3>one sense this movie is straightforwardly very sexist, but on

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 3>the other hand, it is presenting a more kind of

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 3>empowered and larger than life vision of female characters than

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 3>you would get in pretty much anywhere else in movies

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:45.720
<v Speaker 3>of this time.

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think a lot of the interesting commentary

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 2>comes from like trying to piece it apart and figure out, well,

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 2>how much of this was intentional, how much of it

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 2>is you know, sort of happy accident, etc. I mean,

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 2>that's often the case with films that really stand out

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 2>during you know, that really stand out to the future interpretation.

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 3>But okay, there's another great smash cut here, because so

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 3>like the goga, the ladies are dancing, the guys are screaming, go,

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:15.720
<v Speaker 3>and then it just like suddenly we're somewhere else.

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Suddenly we're in the desert. Here's our lead character, Varla,

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:25.360
<v Speaker 2>laughing maniacally as she races her sports car through the desert.

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 2>And then we quickly see that they are to the

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 2>two other dancers, Rosy and Billy, are racing behind her

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 2>in their own sports cars laughing as well.

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 3>It's like they're already fleeing the scene of a crime

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:37.359
<v Speaker 3>when we first meet them here, and who knows, maybe

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 3>they are. We don't They never mentioned that.

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, right, I mean it would make sense. Yeah, they're

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 2>going because there is a there's a desperation, uh to

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 2>a lot of what they do, and there's a you know,

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:49.840
<v Speaker 2>they clearly don't care about the future.

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, I see what you're saying about the desperation, though,

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to convey the wrong feeling in the

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:57.359
<v Speaker 3>scene because instead they feel it's like they're having fun.

0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:59.280
<v Speaker 2>They are, Yeah, they are completely free.

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah. Another thing I will say is that

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:07.760
<v Speaker 3>the soundtrack really adds a lot of pep to this movie.

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:11.880
<v Speaker 3>It's like good hot music selections, and they change so fast.

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:13.759
<v Speaker 3>I think I noted. By the time we're like four

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:17.720
<v Speaker 3>minutes into the movie, we've already heard like five different songs.

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of saxophone too, a lot

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:24.240
<v Speaker 2>of jazz saxophone. And yeah. So they're racing through the desert,

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:28.240
<v Speaker 2>but you know, Billy has needs. Billy needs a swim break,

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 2>So everybody stops so that Billy can have a swim.

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:34.800
<v Speaker 3>This scene so yeah, Billy's like, I want to swim.

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to swim even if it's you know, this

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 3>is a muddy drainage canal. I'm going to swim in that.

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 3>And then I think Varla sends Rosie to go make

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:44.839
<v Speaker 3>her stop. She's like, get her out of there, and

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.839
<v Speaker 3>so yeah, Rosie goes to do it, and this leads

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 3>to a fight scene where they're just like beating each

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 3>other up on the beach. Billy and Rosie are and

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I think this establishes the dynamic between the characters that

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 3>will continue for the rest of the film. First of all,

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Varla is the boss, mean, tough, dominant violence. She gives orders.

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 3>If you cross her, you know, well you don't want

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 3>to cross her, you don't want to find out. Meanwhile,

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Billy is the free spirit. She does whatever she wants

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:17.479
<v Speaker 3>whenever she feels like it. To hell with anybody who's

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 3>trying to tell her it is not time to go

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:24.359
<v Speaker 3>swimming in the muddy canal. Meanwhile, Rosie, you know, we

0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:26.279
<v Speaker 3>were sort of talking about this earlier. Like Rosie is

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:30.279
<v Speaker 3>the most complicated of the three. She's more resentful and

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 3>reserved and sometimes seems kind of unsure, but somehow. Okay,

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 3>So they end up Rosie and Billy end up fighting.

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 3>I guess about the fact that Billy was swimming, and

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 3>then they start they all start arguing, and Setana eventually says,

0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 3>you want to prove something, chicky, Let's see who the

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 3>real chicken is. Another smash cut to they're playing a

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 3>game of chicken in their cars on the salt flats.

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:03.840
<v Speaker 2>That's right, let's settle this honorably with with with with

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the dangerous vehicular action.

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 3>If you're not familiar with vehicular chicken. Yeah, it's where

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:13.239
<v Speaker 3>these cars, like they drive head on toward each other

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 3>and I guess the first person to swar of loses.

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but don't try this.

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, who wins Varlow of course?

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, because yes, she is the meanest and the

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.840
<v Speaker 2>toughest and she will not stop.

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 3>But after their game of chicken, I guess they're just

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 3>hanging out in the middle of the salt flats and

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 3>what do you know, Uh, oh, here here comes some

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:36.360
<v Speaker 3>people and things are not going to go well for them.

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Here come Tommy and lynd, a couple of well

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:43.360
<v Speaker 2>meaning squares who are just so pleasant, just so pleasant.

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh, strangers, in the desert. This is great,

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 2>more people to hang out with. Little do they know

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:52.319
<v Speaker 2>that this band of go go witches is gonna They're

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:53.919
<v Speaker 2>gonna be their their death and doom.

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.799
<v Speaker 3>It's a couple of teenagers who are just like meat loaf,

0:46:57.960 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 3>mashed potatoes, and canned peas.

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 3>They love cars, soft drinks, good clean fun. And Tommy

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:09.399
<v Speaker 3>is here to do some timed trials because he loves,

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:11.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, tuning up his car, which to me did

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:14.240
<v Speaker 3>not look like a hot rod. I was like, really, Tommy,

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:16.400
<v Speaker 3>he's the car guy and that's his car. But I

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:18.239
<v Speaker 3>just don't know my sixties cars.

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, yeah, the sixties car expert can shine

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 2>in here and tell us what we're looking at.

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:27.760
<v Speaker 3>But so they're here to do timed trials, which Varlap

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 3>makes fun of, by the way, time trials. You know,

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 3>I only race against the living. But I think Linda's

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 3>idea is she's gonna sit there and like, enjoy some

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:40.919
<v Speaker 3>soft drinks and do the stop Watch for Tommy while

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:41.800
<v Speaker 3>he drives around.

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:42.839
<v Speaker 2>That does it?

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:47.320
<v Speaker 3>It sounds like a great time. And at some point

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Linda offers the the Go Go murderers soft drinks. She's like,

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 3>would you like a soft drink from our cooler here?

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And Rosie says, honey, we don't like nothing soft.

0:47:57.480 --> 0:47:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Everything we touch is hard. So let's get some more

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:02.239
<v Speaker 2>that rate russ Meyer dialogue here.

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 3>But we should add like nearly every exchange in the

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 3>movie is like that. It's just like nobody says anything normal.

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:13.719
<v Speaker 3>They're they're always like spitting one liners at each other.

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And basically this whole interaction with Tommy and Linda

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 2>is they're just picking a fight with them the whole time.

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 2>They're trying to tempt them into some sort of a confrontation.

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a I thought that it ultimately has

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of Varlas especially has kind of like an Old

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Testament Satanic aspect to our character, because in Tommy we

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:39.480
<v Speaker 2>see a good man. You know, he's not leering, he's

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 2>not saying inappropriate things like the gas station attendant from

0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 2>from earlier.

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 3>That's later the.

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, yeah, that's right, because Linda's are even kidnapped

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 2>by that point. But you know, most of them the

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:52.759
<v Speaker 2>males in the film are like that. You know, they're

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 2>saying some some stuff here, or they're they're leering at

0:48:56.239 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 2>our at our trio. But you know, Tommy seems good.

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, he couldn't possibly be provoked to violence. But

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:07.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, our Satanic character might say, well, you know

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 2>he's been protected from those temptations, but what if someone

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:14.080
<v Speaker 2>were to criticize his racing, What if someone were to

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:19.080
<v Speaker 2>beat him in a desert race and also take his girlfriend?

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Stop watch, So.

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 3>You're you're talking about like the Satan from the Book

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:27.120
<v Speaker 3>of Job, Satan as the prosecutor of the court of Heaven.

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think Varla has that kind of energy here.

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so just constantly picking a fight. There's a

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 2>great bit where he's starting to get a little annoyed

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 2>by all this. He's like, are you are you trying

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:40.360
<v Speaker 2>to say something and she's like, I never try anything,

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I just do it, which awesome Varla line just sums

0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:49.720
<v Speaker 2>it up, prefigures Yoda as well. Mm hmm, yoda Varla

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:50.200
<v Speaker 2>see that?

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 3>She also at some point she's trying to get him

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 3>to do a dangerous drag race with her, and he's

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 3>at first using and she at one point says, you're

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 3>the all American boy, a safety first Clyde.

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 3>So eventually the go go murder gang tricks. They like

0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:16.320
<v Speaker 3>goed Tommy into racing, and so they're you know, driving

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 3>around the track, and then it looks maybe like Tommy

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 3>is gonna win the race, but then Varla pulls some

0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:23.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of I didn't understand exactly what happened, but she

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 3>pulls some kind of dangerous stunt to like run him

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:26.760
<v Speaker 3>off the course.

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, And so from here things escalate pretty quickly,

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 2>and Varla finally provokes nice guy Tommy into a fight,

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:41.720
<v Speaker 2>into an actual physical altercation, and it is amazing because

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 2>she proceeds to just karate chop the crap out of them.

0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:49.759
<v Speaker 2>And I've said before, I love karate chops in these

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 2>old timey fights. I don't think we see enough karate

0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:55.359
<v Speaker 2>chops anymore. Today it's all like Mma moves, and I'm

0:50:55.400 --> 0:51:00.120
<v Speaker 2>so bored with characters throwing out you know, either or

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:03.719
<v Speaker 2>a wrestling souplex or certainly some sort of an arm

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:06.920
<v Speaker 2>bar scenario. I want karate chops to come back in

0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 2>a big way, and all man, Varla throws out some

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:15.319
<v Speaker 2>wonderful ones. Finally Tommy starts punching back, and she takes

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:18.440
<v Speaker 2>him down with this cool arm based takedown thing. And

0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:23.120
<v Speaker 2>then proceeds to apply a standing surfboard lock, so he's

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 2>laying on his belly. She grabs both arms, puts her

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.879
<v Speaker 2>boot to the back of his neck, and snaps his

0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 2>neck with her boot. Just a complete, solid kill. This

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:35.560
<v Speaker 2>whole scene John Waters described as just mind boggling.

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:38.880
<v Speaker 3>It is shocking, and you know, if you didn't understand

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 3>up until this point, you're like, oh, okay, this is

0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:42.839
<v Speaker 3>why this movie is so infamous.

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he just killed him in cold blood. Like

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:48.399
<v Speaker 2>it escalates from just and she just met him. They

0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 2>just met these people and they've already provoked him to

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 2>violence and then killed him.

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:57.840
<v Speaker 3>She does multiple times claim to be giving him a

0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:01.160
<v Speaker 3>chance to walk away, but it's like he didn't start it.

0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 3>It's just like you can walk away if you just

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 3>allow me to like humiliate and insult your girlfriend some more.

0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:12.799
<v Speaker 3>Because they steal Linda's stop watch and they won't give

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:16.040
<v Speaker 3>it back to her, and Linda's like, help me, Tommy,

0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 3>and Tommy's like, oh, come on, be nice, and no,

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 3>they're not going to be nice.

0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So they kill Tommy in cold blood, and there's

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:27.400
<v Speaker 2>nothing left to do at that point but to kidnap Linda.

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:30.920
<v Speaker 3>More crimes right, Tommy's dead. And in a way, I

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 3>think this is no big deal for them because killing

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 3>men in the desert, this is just a regular part

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 3>of a day off for Varla and company. Yeah, but yeah,

0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Linda's a witness. So what are they going to do

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 3>with this goody two shoes teenager who knows their fondness

0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:47.719
<v Speaker 3>for go go assassination. They've got a kidnap her, take

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:50.120
<v Speaker 3>her with them to somewhere. I think they're planning to

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 3>kill her also later. I don't know why they don't

0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:53.280
<v Speaker 3>just do it there.

0:52:53.880 --> 0:52:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's they kind of skip over that, but at

0:52:57.480 --> 0:53:01.000
<v Speaker 2>any rate, Yeah, they throw her in the car, they

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:02.480
<v Speaker 2>get some pills in her. They have a lot of

0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:04.839
<v Speaker 2>pills on hand for this sort of thing, and then

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:07.960
<v Speaker 2>it's off to wherever. I guess they got to get gas.

0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 3>First, right, So next they go to the gas station,

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 3>and you mentioned the interaction with the gas station attendant.

0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:17.200
<v Speaker 3>This is where, like, you know, the guy's like cleaning

0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:20.640
<v Speaker 3>the window and he is he is ogling Varla and

0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:24.400
<v Speaker 3>at some point he says like, Wow, I'd really like

0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:27.160
<v Speaker 3>to see America one day, and she goes, you won't

0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 3>see it down there. Columbus another great line.

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all of our those lines are just gold, and

0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 2>all three of them, I think, say you get to

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:39.920
<v Speaker 2>get to jab at this this sort of happy go

0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:43.279
<v Speaker 2>lucky gas station attendant. They say such mean things to him,

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 2>and they're all wonderful.

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:48.759
<v Speaker 3>He stays relatively pleasant despite the fact that they're just

0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:51.359
<v Speaker 3>all viciously insulting him over and over.

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>It.

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, in a way, he's the most pleasant male character,

0:53:55.640 --> 0:54:06.640
<v Speaker 2>if not the most pleasant character in the whole film.

0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:09.160
<v Speaker 3>Also, while they're at the gas station, it sets up

0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:13.120
<v Speaker 3>the dynamic that will take over for the rest of

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:16.480
<v Speaker 3>the movie, which is Billy. She's wandering around and she

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:19.880
<v Speaker 3>sees a hunk with muscles. She's like, wow, look at

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:23.799
<v Speaker 3>that hunk a man, and the gas station attendant I

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:26.719
<v Speaker 3>guess he just happens to know everything. He explains that

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 3>that guy is the son of a local rancher who

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:32.880
<v Speaker 3>lives way out in the desert, and the rancher is

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 3>he some time ago was injured and now has to

0:54:36.320 --> 0:54:39.320
<v Speaker 3>use a wheelchair. Because Rob correct me if I'm getting

0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:42.319
<v Speaker 3>any of this wrong. I think he says that the

0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:46.439
<v Speaker 3>old man was injured while rescuing a girl from an

0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:51.319
<v Speaker 3>oncoming train, and as a result of his injuries, he

0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 3>was paid a huge sum of money. I don't know

0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:57.240
<v Speaker 3>if that was insurance or from the train company or something.

0:54:57.800 --> 0:55:00.759
<v Speaker 3>And then somehow the gas pump guy knows about this

0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 3>and knows that he is hiding the money in cash

0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:05.400
<v Speaker 3>form somewhere on his land.

0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 2>That's right, So now he has like a lot of

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:14.240
<v Speaker 2>paranoid delusions about the evils of trains. He hates women,

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:16.759
<v Speaker 2>and he doesn't want to put his money in the bank,

0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:19.080
<v Speaker 2>so he has it hidden somewhere in the desert. It's

0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:20.120
<v Speaker 2>the local lore.

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Right, So the old man, he first of all, he

0:55:22.160 --> 0:55:25.600
<v Speaker 3>is a nasty, lecherous old creep who is the most

0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:28.279
<v Speaker 3>leering of all the leering men in the film. But

0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:32.520
<v Speaker 3>he also you mentioned he hates women. So the way

0:55:32.600 --> 0:55:35.560
<v Speaker 3>I think this was explained is that he wants to

0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:41.480
<v Speaker 3>kill women for revenge because he was injured and disabled

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:44.120
<v Speaker 3>while trying to rescue a woman. Is that the case.

0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I believe that's what they're laying out.

0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, I don't know.

0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:50.480
<v Speaker 2>All right, Now, he can't do much on his own,

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 2>but luckily he has this muscular sign who they lovingly

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:56.560
<v Speaker 2>call the vegetable.

0:55:56.840 --> 0:56:00.359
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so the muscle sun is portrayed as having some

0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:06.080
<v Speaker 3>kind of unspecified mental disability. Obviously this is not portrayed

0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:07.640
<v Speaker 3>in the movie with great sensitivity.

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:10.440
<v Speaker 2>No, and of course neither is the disability of the

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:13.640
<v Speaker 2>old man. Yeah, but you know, you are in the

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:17.359
<v Speaker 2>mid sixties exploitation film at this point, so right, that's

0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:18.240
<v Speaker 2>what you're watching.

0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:22.279
<v Speaker 3>And then you've got Kirk, the other son. Who he's

0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:23.680
<v Speaker 3>the other son, that's his deal.

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he has an interesting place as well,

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:29.319
<v Speaker 2>because he's I saw some papers pointing out, you know,

0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:32.440
<v Speaker 2>he's kind of the domestic and the domestic role of

0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:34.560
<v Speaker 2>the group. He looks after the old man, he looks

0:56:34.600 --> 0:56:39.400
<v Speaker 2>after his brother. He also seems to aspire and is

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:43.760
<v Speaker 2>ultimately positioned in a place of moral superiority, but also

0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:46.359
<v Speaker 2>seems like he has turned a blind eye to a

0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:50.520
<v Speaker 2>lot of bad stuff in the desert. So I was

0:56:50.600 --> 0:56:52.680
<v Speaker 2>never really sure what to make of Kirk. And it

0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:55.600
<v Speaker 2>also this has helped tip the scales for me and

0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:57.400
<v Speaker 2>just rooting for Varla the whole time.

0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:00.720
<v Speaker 3>You wanted Varla to succeed in murdering him and Linda.

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I'm sorry, but Varla's just compelling. I'm just

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 2>not going to argue with her.

0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:09.240
<v Speaker 3>So the Go Go Killers set their sights on this ranch.

0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:12.839
<v Speaker 3>Varla wants the money that the old man apparently has

0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:15.359
<v Speaker 3>stashed somewhere there. I don't know why they believe the

0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:17.800
<v Speaker 3>gas station attended though, like why would he know this?

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 3>But so they just take his word for it. Varla

0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:22.960
<v Speaker 3>wants the money and Billy wants the muscle sun. So

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:26.480
<v Speaker 3>they're going to go to the ranch and rob You

0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 3>and I off Mike earlier were discussing this comparison. They

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 3>head for the ranch where the rest of the movie

0:57:33.280 --> 0:57:35.760
<v Speaker 3>is going to take place, and I could not help

0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:41.960
<v Speaker 3>but notice the similarity between the family on this ranch

0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 3>and the family in the Texas Chainsaw Masacre, which of

0:57:45.120 --> 0:57:45.920
<v Speaker 3>course came later.

0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 2>That's right, Yeah, I also thought that there was kind

0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:53.080
<v Speaker 2>of a solar esque vibe going on here. You know,

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 2>they're perverse, they're up to bad stuff out in the

0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:58.880
<v Speaker 2>middle of nowhere, but they're all but they don't go

0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 2>all in on the hoar and same way that the

0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Texas Chainsaw Masker does, obviously.

0:58:02.920 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Right, But I mean the comparisons are almost kind of eerie, Like,

0:58:06.840 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 3>so the old man, there's like a nasty, mean spirited,

0:58:11.000 --> 0:58:15.000
<v Speaker 3>lecherous old man there is the muscle son you know

0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:17.920
<v Speaker 3>who in I think you could compare to leather Face,

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:21.600
<v Speaker 3>And I guess the difference is that in the Sawyer

0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:24.360
<v Speaker 3>family there is no Kirk. There's not like the nice,

0:58:24.440 --> 0:58:25.080
<v Speaker 3>normal sun.

0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, instead of Kirk, you either get the hitchhiker

0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:33.360
<v Speaker 2>or you or you get chopped up. Yes, yeah, totally

0:58:33.400 --> 0:58:35.160
<v Speaker 2>different vibe in that regard. But yeah, I feel like

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:37.760
<v Speaker 2>there's there are a lot of similarities. I wonder if

0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:41.160
<v Speaker 2>this influenced the shape of Texas Chainsaw Masker to any degree.

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, it also makes you wonder like how Texas Chainsaw

0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:47.120
<v Speaker 3>Masker would be different if the people who show up

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:50.520
<v Speaker 3>at the Sawyer residence are not just like hapless teenagers

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:52.480
<v Speaker 3>who are trying to go to a concert or trying

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:56.000
<v Speaker 3>to you know, find visit their old family home or something,

0:58:56.360 --> 0:59:01.920
<v Speaker 3>but are instead just tough as nail dancer murderers.

0:59:02.280 --> 0:59:04.919
<v Speaker 2>Oh, the Sawyers wouldn't have stood a chance. Varla would

0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:07.600
<v Speaker 2>have made short work of all of them, leather Face,

0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:12.760
<v Speaker 2>the hitch Hike, or any of them. No chainsaw would

0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 2>be even revved up.

0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:17.200
<v Speaker 3>She would snatch, She would snatch the chainsaw out of

0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:19.880
<v Speaker 3>leather Face's hands, grab it by the blade and pull

0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:22.240
<v Speaker 3>it out of his hands and then bend him over

0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:23.240
<v Speaker 3>and break his neck.

0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, karate chop that neck, you know. Also like TCM,

0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:29.680
<v Speaker 2>a different vibe here, but we also get a big

0:59:29.720 --> 0:59:30.720
<v Speaker 2>sit down meal.

0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:34.760
<v Speaker 3>That's right. Yeah, So it takes a while. They've got

0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:37.040
<v Speaker 3>a sort of elaborate plan that I'm not going to

0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:41.400
<v Speaker 3>get into in great detail. But so like Varla and

0:59:41.440 --> 0:59:43.920
<v Speaker 3>the gang arrive on the property and they make a

0:59:43.920 --> 0:59:47.760
<v Speaker 3>plan to sort of trick the family while they search

0:59:47.800 --> 0:59:50.200
<v Speaker 3>for the money, and so they claim to have been

0:59:50.240 --> 0:59:53.640
<v Speaker 3>stranded there and need some water for maybe the radiators

0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:55.560
<v Speaker 3>in their car or something. But they end up getting

0:59:55.600 --> 0:59:58.880
<v Speaker 3>invited to lunch, I think, especially because the old man

0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:02.560
<v Speaker 3>is again nasty and lecherous and wants to ogle them

1:00:02.920 --> 1:00:07.480
<v Speaker 3>and do much worse. So they're all having like fried

1:00:07.560 --> 1:00:10.240
<v Speaker 3>chicken and whiskey at lunch. We're not all having whiskey.

1:00:10.160 --> 1:00:14.760
<v Speaker 3>They're all having chicken that Kirk cooked for everyone. And

1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:18.200
<v Speaker 3>at some point Billy is like, oh, and Linda's there

1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:20.520
<v Speaker 3>at the table with them, just the hostage is there,

1:00:20.560 --> 1:00:22.520
<v Speaker 3>and I think at some point she's begging for help,

1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:24.200
<v Speaker 3>and they're all like, I don't know what to make

1:00:24.240 --> 1:00:29.360
<v Speaker 3>of this, but Billy at some point is like, hey,

1:00:29.480 --> 1:00:31.400
<v Speaker 3>give me some of that whiskey, old man, and he's

1:00:31.440 --> 1:00:34.280
<v Speaker 3>like okay, And then she just proceeds to immediately get

1:00:34.440 --> 1:00:37.400
<v Speaker 3>blackout drunk and pass out and let Linda escape.

1:00:37.880 --> 1:00:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, it is interesting that the whole vibe of

1:00:40.520 --> 1:00:42.479
<v Speaker 2>this dinner is like the dinner table is this place

1:00:42.520 --> 1:00:46.480
<v Speaker 2>of decorum, but everyone there is either a villain or

1:00:46.480 --> 1:00:49.440
<v Speaker 2>a hostage, and yet there is this like weird like

1:00:49.600 --> 1:00:53.800
<v Speaker 2>truth in place here as they engage in this strange meal.

1:00:54.120 --> 1:00:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Of course, eventually Varla goads the old man by mentioning

1:01:00.480 --> 1:01:02.919
<v Speaker 2>I think she's the one who mentions trains and gets

1:01:03.000 --> 1:01:05.440
<v Speaker 2>him all upset and he ends up storming off. Oh

1:01:05.480 --> 1:01:07.680
<v Speaker 2>and there are also a lot of a lot of

1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:10.960
<v Speaker 2>comments about how much chicken the beefy son can eat.

1:01:11.280 --> 1:01:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, I think at one point he is advised

1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:17.600
<v Speaker 3>to help himself to both a breast and a thigh.

1:01:18.160 --> 1:01:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes, a lot of winkie dialogue.

1:01:22.320 --> 1:01:24.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh oh, but we forgot a part earlier on which

1:01:24.800 --> 1:01:29.560
<v Speaker 3>I think is that the old man is like I

1:01:29.600 --> 1:01:32.440
<v Speaker 3>think it happens off screen, but he tries to assault

1:01:32.480 --> 1:01:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Linda the hostage, and she flees away into the desert

1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:39.760
<v Speaker 3>and is like, okay, I'm going to escape now, and

1:01:39.880 --> 1:01:42.600
<v Speaker 3>is picked up in a truck by a nice young

1:01:42.600 --> 1:01:45.640
<v Speaker 3>man who seems very helpful. But it turns out this

1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:49.000
<v Speaker 3>is Kirk, the other son, and he just like drives

1:01:49.000 --> 1:01:51.160
<v Speaker 3>her back to the house and she's like no, no, no,

1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:54.000
<v Speaker 3>not back here, and he's like, oh no, it's fine.

1:01:54.040 --> 1:01:55.400
<v Speaker 3>This is my family's house.

1:01:56.400 --> 1:01:59.840
<v Speaker 2>We've probably been more impactful if we the audience did

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<v Speaker 2>not already know that Kirk was a member of that family. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's still pretty great. She escapes a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>different times. They're not very good at keeping her in place,

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<v Speaker 2>but then she's not particularly good at getting away.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. At some point, I think also Varla seduces Kirk.

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<v Speaker 3>I do not recall why. I think somehow, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>she thinks this is going to help her get the money.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just is a multi stage plan to get that

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<v Speaker 2>money that involves violence and seduction and dinner. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>don't try and create a flow chart of all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Just trust the plan.

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<v Speaker 3>But at some point Kirk Finally, it takes a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>but finally Kirk wises up to the fact that not

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<v Speaker 3>only is his own family evil, but Varla and the

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<v Speaker 3>gang are evil as well, and so then he's like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I need to help Linda. So at some point, Kirk

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<v Speaker 3>and Linda try to escape into the desert. Meanwhile, back

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<v Speaker 3>at the house, Varla, they've started murdering everybody and that

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<v Speaker 3>let's see that murder. Varla and Rosie murder Billy I

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<v Speaker 3>don't quite remember why. She's leaving at some point and

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<v Speaker 3>they like throw a knife in her back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great, great kill scene. Yeah. She's like I'm done,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll see you gals at church, and she's gone off

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<v Speaker 2>and was like pass me the switchblade and then throws

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<v Speaker 2>it into her back.

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<v Speaker 3>So they end up murdering the muscle Son and the

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<v Speaker 3>old man, and they discover where the muscle Sun kills Rosie.

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<v Speaker 3>The muscle Son kills Rosie, and then they they Varla

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<v Speaker 3>kills well let's see, Yeah, they kill him and the

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<v Speaker 3>old man. The old man it turns out had all

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<v Speaker 3>of the money that he was hiding stash somehow inside

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<v Speaker 3>his wheelchair, and when they hit him with their car,

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<v Speaker 3>it is all it like busts out all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. Varla goes into revenge mode at this point though,

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<v Speaker 2>and she gets. She's this great scene where she's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to run over the mussel and and he's pushing back

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<v Speaker 2>like he's hercules, you know, against the horsepower of the car,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's just kind of a stalemate that of course

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<v Speaker 2>eventually wears him out completely and he toppless. Oh he's

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<v Speaker 2>like Samson, you've cut his hair at this point, he's powerless.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think he dies. What I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he dies? Does he?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Well, I don't recall actually.

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<v Speaker 2>That he has defeated.

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<v Speaker 3>But finally there is a showdown where okay, so Linda

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<v Speaker 3>are our good character and Kirk are I guess kind

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<v Speaker 3>of good character. They're escaping into the desert. They're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to run away from the farm and and and get

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<v Speaker 3>out of all this madness, and Varla must get revenge.

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<v Speaker 3>So she's like hunting them down in this truck. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think you compared her to the terminator at this point,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that that is a good comparison. She

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<v Speaker 3>is just a machine out for destruction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, completely relentless. There's no way you can possibly get

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<v Speaker 2>You can't stop her, you can't get away from her

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<v Speaker 2>because she has no quit in her at one point,

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<v Speaker 2>she's driving after them and they like cross over the

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<v Speaker 2>railroad tracks and I was I was afraid they were

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I was like, oh, man, is this how they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to defeat Varla, because they're going to bring the

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<v Speaker 2>train back into it somehow. But that's not what happens. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>they end up reaching this point where the like the truck.

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<v Speaker 2>She gets out of the truck. Varla does and and

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<v Speaker 2>now they're going to have this this final fight Varla

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<v Speaker 2>versus Kirk and Linda in the desert, just fisticuffs and

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<v Speaker 2>chops and boots.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, at this point, Varla is again beating Kirk up

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<v Speaker 3>totally because Kirk doesn't stand a chance against Varla. Of

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<v Speaker 3>course he would, she would kill him. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>Linda comes to the to the rescue with the truck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she jumps back into the truck, starts it up,

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<v Speaker 2>and hits Varla with the truck, and so we end

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<v Speaker 2>up with with again. Varla's already totally kicked Kirk's butt

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, like she she she hits first, she

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<v Speaker 2>like kicks him in the kidney or something. She's chopped

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<v Speaker 2>him multiple times, and she's now she's been hit by

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<v Speaker 2>the v She's laying there next to him, and she

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<v Speaker 2>raises one last karate chop into the air to bring

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<v Speaker 2>down on him. You just know it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a death blow. But then uh, she succumbs to her

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<v Speaker 2>injuries and dies.

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<v Speaker 3>The ending is great, though I did have one note.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, one way you could make this movie

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<v Speaker 3>better is if at the end of Varla, instead of

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<v Speaker 3>just succumbing to her injuries, is it somehow explodes like

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<v Speaker 3>the Shark and Jaws, you know, like they put like

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<v Speaker 3>a pressure air tank in her mouth and shoot that

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<v Speaker 3>and then she explodes into ten billion pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>That would have been good, you know, I could just see.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see the train ending having worked. I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>if that was ever on the menu as a potential

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<v Speaker 2>ending for this film. But I also like the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of I think Varla should have just won. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Varleass should have murdered Kirk. But then again we back

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<v Speaker 2>come back to the question of well, what is the

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<v Speaker 2>where is she gonna go with Linda? Like, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>plan here? Does she just kill Linda as well and

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<v Speaker 2>then go off into the desert or is there some

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<v Speaker 2>next step there? I'm not sure, so I guess it

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately is just as well that she that this character dies.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, let's see what would Varla have done if

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<v Speaker 3>she'd want Yeah, she'd get the money. She would stand

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<v Speaker 3>there and declare that she is not sad that her

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<v Speaker 3>friends are dead. She's like, I don't miss them one bit,

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<v Speaker 3>and then she would get in her car and drive

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<v Speaker 3>away to her to the next adventure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think maybe just leave Linda alive in

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<v Speaker 2>the desert to you know, to surely die. That would

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<v Speaker 2>have probably worked. I feel like that's the ending this

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<v Speaker 2>film would have had in the seventies. But already, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even mid sixties, it was ahead of its time, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's only so much meanness that it could muster.

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<v Speaker 3>I just remembered something about the final dialogue exchange after

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<v Speaker 3>Varla is defeated, and I had to look it up.

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<v Speaker 3>So what exactly they say? It's so, you know, Varla dies,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Linda gets out of the truck and she

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<v Speaker 3>says I killed her like she was an animal, like

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<v Speaker 3>she was nothing, and then Kirk says she was nothing

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<v Speaker 3>thing human. And so I wonder if the ending maybe

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<v Speaker 3>means that Linda now has acquired a taste for violence,

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<v Speaker 3>and she has been set on a path to become

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<v Speaker 3>like them.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, well that would be interesting. Again, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>how how deep we can dig into the into the

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<v Speaker 2>paint on this film, but I like that interpretation.

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<v Speaker 3>Like immediately after the camera stops rolling, I imagine Linda

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<v Speaker 3>next is like, Hey, Kirk, would you like to go

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<v Speaker 3>racing on the salt flats? We'll see who wins.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, there you have it, faster Pussycat Kill Kill. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this one was a lot of fun, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>now just in general, in all movies that we watch,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at least going to have that voice in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of my head what would Varla do in this scenario? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's an unforgettable character.

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<v Speaker 3>At the very least, she would welcome us to violence.

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