1 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 3 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, December twenty second, twenty twenty one, season seventeen, 8 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: episode number eighty four. Welcome to the latest edition of 9 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: The Break. We are live from the s WBC Mortgage 10 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: studios at the Star. We've got about forty five minutes 11 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: of talk here we'll have with you guys. We're gonna 12 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: slide back one of our later shows, so we have 13 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: some time to get in with you guys. McCarthy took 14 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: a little long there, but we'll take some time here. 15 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: We'll get some some good talk on the Cowboys getting 16 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: ready for Cowboys versus Washington Football Team. How's everybody do 17 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: it today? Great? Awesome, awesome? Less jump right in amber? Awesome? Okay, good. 18 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Let's first get some some updates. Uh. One coach is 19 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: on the COVID protocol day. What do we know. Actually 20 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: two are because I'm sorry Yett Daniels on Monday and 21 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: uh odd and dirty yesterday defensive line coach everybody's favorite 22 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: because shout out Alex Lily with the italicized captions from 23 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: sounds from the sideline. So they're both in the protocol. 24 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: OsO DIGGI Zooa is back. Tristan Hill is not. Um. 25 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: I think that's the extent of it. And I guess 26 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: for did they did you give any indication on Tristan? 27 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Is that an expectation that he would be back this 28 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: week for this game? They're not. They're not ruling him 29 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: back out of coming back this week, but just wait 30 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: and see. I guess also they're going to be careful 31 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: with him and just not throw him right back into practice. 32 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: But likes he's available to work today. So all right, 33 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: let's talk about injuries. There are two guys I want 34 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: to get to catch up on. What are we doing? 35 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: What don't know about Blake Darlin at this point, he's 36 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: not off the He has not started his twenty one 37 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: day window just yet, but that doesn't necessarily mean that 38 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: he couldn't start it practice and then you know, play. 39 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: But I don't get the sense that he's going to 40 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: be back anytime soon. I wouldn't guess this week. No, 41 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: Mike said something like maybe next week or the week 42 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: after that is when you really start to ramp him up. 43 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: I think we said that a week or two ago. 44 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: Is like you're thinking about him being available more so 45 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: as a playoff guy than anything that happens the next 46 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: three weeks, I would guess, or maybe you try to 47 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: get him ready for the Philly game or something like that. 48 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: What are we hear about Tyron Smith rehabbing today? They're 49 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: going to take him through the week. My gut that 50 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: says that he doesn't play Sunday, but we'll see. Yeah. 51 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you have a ninety nine point percent chance 52 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: of winning the division, so it's it's as locked up 53 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: as it's going to be without locking it up. I 54 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: would think this week, if he's not, he's probably not 55 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent to play, so I would 56 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: think he doesn't they can win without him. I'm I'm 57 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: slow playing that, although I did Montez sweats back, so 58 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm kind of lying. Yeah, but I thought Tye and 59 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: Terrence played pretty well the other day. Yeah, tag team 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 1: back again, that's what they're that's basically what they're doing 61 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: there at left tackle. Kind of true. Yeah, okay, I 62 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: don't want to sing the whole thing. Sure if you 63 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: want to miss I missed the singing yesterday. So if 64 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: you feel inclined and want to drop those two over there, 65 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: will probably tell you it wasn't It wasn't something worth 66 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: redoing it. I look directly at Am because I want 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: to get her reaction. I wouldn't buy a ticket to 68 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: see that ship. That's a nice way to put it. Actually, Aver, 69 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: that was very nice, Thank you. Yeah, I wouldn't improve. 70 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going on tour. So good. There we go, 71 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: got it. Hey, I did have one kind of big 72 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: picture question I wanted to ask you guys, and it 73 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: came off with coach McCarthy's press conference. Nick you mentioned it. 74 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: It was kind of interesting to me because today was 75 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: a day where he got pretty philosophical at moments during 76 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: that press conference, talking about a lot of different things, 77 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: talk about humility and those kind of things, which, by 78 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: the way, it's all leadership type stuff. It's if you've 79 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: ever read leadership books, a lot of that comes from 80 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: leadership type books. But really, where I want to focus 81 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: for you, guys. Is more, what are your thoughts on 82 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: how he coaches the team from the standpoint of the 83 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: way I will put it is coaching the full person. 84 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: You look at how he manages their time. He talked 85 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: a little bit in that press conference about the fact 86 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: that you have to consider the stressors that are on players, 87 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: and those stressors increase as the season goes on. He 88 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: even mentioned there's stress that comes with Christmas time, that 89 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: comes with holidays for players, even talking about their schedule 90 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: this week and how he's gonna make sure his players 91 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: are gonna get time with their families on Christmas Eve night, 92 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: on most of Christmas Day, they're only going to be 93 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: here for about two hours in the afternoon. What are 94 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that? Because that's not I don't think 95 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: in my time I've been in the NFL that doesn't 96 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: seem to be common for a lot of coaches. You, 97 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm gonna say, You go ahead, 98 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: and I probably I don't know. Are we going to 99 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: talk about this coach or the one before both? I mean, 100 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: you can talk about whoever you want to talk about. 101 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: I just again, I'm trying to figure out what your 102 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: thoughts on the different ways of coaching. He coaches the 103 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: like you said, he coaches the person I think he 104 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: I think McCarthy does a really good job of grasping 105 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: everything that goes involved with any and that's what experience 106 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: will get you, is the understand that you have to 107 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: coach everything. You have to coach what they're dealing with, 108 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: even if it's not something that you're dealing with. And 109 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: I have not adjacent Garrett hater. Some people are, I'm not. 110 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: I'll say this, he didn't have kids. He didn't have kids. 111 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: His family situation was different. Now he definitely knows understands 112 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: with his dad, his brothers and all that, but it 113 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: was different for him as as opposed to maybe others, 114 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: and so therefore he demanded a little bit more out 115 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: of them because his schedule was different. That's just my opinion, 116 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: but I've heard that from as well as like he 117 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: doesn't always factor that stuffed in. And I think a 118 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: season coach that's been around a long time has family, 119 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: understands that real life happens all the time. That I 120 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: think I think maybe McCarthy kind of gets that a 121 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: little bit more and maybe see that in his coaching. 122 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: It's remarkable when you think about all of the different 123 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: types of experience that Mike McCarthy has, like and Jason 124 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: Garrett had a lot of experience in the league too, 125 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: but it was different, like it was mostly a player. 126 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: His career was fast tracked, and that happens for some guys. 127 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Rabel was very similar, but he was 128 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 1: like he was an offensive coordinator within like four years 129 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: of starting to coach, and then his first head coaching 130 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: job was the Dallas Cowboys. Mike McCarthy's been like quality 131 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: control on a college staff. He talks about it's obvious 132 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: the impact Marty Schottenheim had on him. He talks about 133 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: being kind of a grunt on his old staffs in 134 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: Kansas City. He was an offensive coordinator for some good 135 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: teams in New Orleans and for some bad teams. Gets 136 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: then he gets to be a first time head coach 137 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: and like all of the stuff that you learn over 138 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: the course of fifteen years doing that, failed at it, 139 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: and then comes back having not been here and gets 140 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: to be a head coach for a second time. Not 141 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people get to do that. So I 142 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: mean that he's got the gamut from the highs of 143 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: the high to being the grunt to getting fired, and 144 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: it just seems like it shines through and something that 145 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: really what I really love about Mike McCarthy is like 146 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: he just sort of admits the obvious sometimes, you know, 147 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: like I struggle to come up with an example, he 148 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: will he'll kick the ball because he doesn't like where 149 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: the wind is instead of just being like, ah, this 150 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: is what we want to do and ignoring outside factors 151 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: or the thing that always frustrated me about Jason Garrett 152 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: was the nameless, faceless opponent thing like we're gonna do 153 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: our approach and Michael straight up be like, oh, I 154 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: don't know, like Montes sweats back for this game, Like 155 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna completely change how we want to do things. 156 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: And it's very obvious, but you don't get that a 157 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: lot from NFL coaches in my limited experience, Like, yeah, 158 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett would never be like like he wants his 159 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: guys to celebrate Christmas and stuff. But I guarantee you 160 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett would be like, what, it's Wednesday. It's Wednesday 161 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL. This is what we do. And Mike's like, well, 162 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure this guy's got somebody at home that he 163 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: needs to worry about and this, that and the other. 164 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: It's just it's refreshing to hear him acknowledge the obvious 165 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: because in my experience with the NFL, everybody just wants 166 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: it to be a vacuum of like deal with that 167 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: on your own time, but football, you know. And sorry, no, 168 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I don't think that that's I 169 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: know you guys are mentioning Jason because that's the most 170 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: recently well he's the only other head coach I've ever recovered. 171 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: But there are so many coaches, I think in the NFL, 172 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: and not just in the NFL, just coaches period. I've 173 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: run across coaches at coach, high school in college that 174 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: kind of have their guys in this mentality where when 175 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: you're playing the sport, it is like life is the 176 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: sport and you're gonna we're gonna play this tournament on 177 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: Christmas Day. It's like everything just revolves around you're playing 178 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: of that sport. And I think it's kind of refreshing 179 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: to hear a coach that actually thinks about the full 180 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: person and knowing that the full person needs more than 181 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: just the sport to even optimally play the sport. At 182 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: its highest level. I think you have to a lot 183 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: for that, and you have to put people in their 184 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: best mental space to be able to do that, and 185 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: that includes all the things that are not a part 186 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: of the sport. And there's something to be said at 187 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: the professional level for just being like, I trust you 188 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: to handle what you need to handle, and I'm going 189 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: to give you the flexibility to do all of that 190 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: and trust that you're going to get your work done. 191 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: And I think he's a much more grounded guy when 192 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: you're looking at comparing it to Jason Garren, and like Dave, 193 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: that's the best person we can compare to because that's 194 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: who has been here and that's who we But to 195 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: me another thing, and I'm not a Jason Garrett hater either, 196 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: but and although he's giving great speeches, you know, if 197 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: we all know, Jason Garrett has that like robotic kind 198 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: of personality and McCarthy is just you just feel it 199 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: more relatable, like you can relate to him more. And 200 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: although McCarthy will give you one of those smiles to 201 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: here and there, like what do you call that, Jason 202 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: Garrett just a tiny version of it sometimes. But I 203 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: think that he's justum he can connect with you a 204 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: lot better, and I think he's done a great job 205 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: with the players here, and you can see it the 206 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: way that the team has kind of become. So I'm 207 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: all for it. Initially past year, I'll be like, why 208 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: are they doing? This is what this is what you 209 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: get paid to do, blah blah blah. I mean, we 210 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: get to cover holidays and all that stuff and work 211 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: on holidays and all that, and it's what it's all about. 212 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it is very refreshing to 213 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: see that kind of approach happening. Mike. We're gonna call 214 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: Mike's thing the g D chuckle because like when Mike's ready, 215 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: he did it today, Like when Mike's ready for you 216 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: to stop talking, like he laughs and usually curses under 217 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: his breath, He's like, here, we're still doing this' cool. 218 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: I love it. It's my favorite thing. The media, Like 219 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: this group of media is like obviously, you know, frustrated 220 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: with the lack of access that they get. Who wouldn't be, 221 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: So it's just like they're gonna they're gonna ring out 222 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: this whole towel to get every drip a lot. I mean, 223 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: like if they get a press conference with Mike mccarth. 224 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna ask about so in fifth grade you play 225 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, they're gonna ask everything 226 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: because that's what they got. They're gonna they're using it. 227 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: It's all. He really gets all you have at this point. 228 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: That's a good point. I don't know. Maybe I'm a 229 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: bad reporter, but Mike does these four He does these 230 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: three days a week, and on average they last for 231 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes. And the like once I look down 232 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: in my recorder and we're hitting north of like seventeen eighteen, 233 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm just like, guys, come on, he'll be tomorrow. He'll 234 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: be here tomorrow too, right, And today's was twenty five. Yeah, 235 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was close to thirty. I was like, yeah, 236 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: this is this is going a little long. I get it. 237 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: You're dogged, you're doing your job, and you're good at it. 238 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: But please let me get out of here. Donny, you're 239 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: good at Yeah, what happens if you just walk out? 240 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: I think Mike would probably laugh and be like, oh, 241 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: I go with you. He's had enough. There's one guy 242 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: that that gets it. Oh yeah, Oh Mike loves mikel 243 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: he does. He does a show for us, I'll talk 244 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: about him. Mike loves Clarence Hill because Clarence will let 245 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: it be very known that he's overdone. It happened today. 246 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: Mike was like, yeah, I'm with you, man, Let's get 247 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: the hell happen from the mesh. It happens on everything. 248 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: Clarence is the key. What's up? He is the king 249 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: of I'm listening to you, but I'm not really listening. 250 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking over here doing something else. While there's that. 251 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: But like today, it got to a point where Clarence 252 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: was basically like Jesus, like, can we please go? He's 253 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: the question police too. Oh for sure, He's like, what 254 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: are we talking about? Nobody's nobody's ever what are you doing? 255 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: Nobody's ever asked a good question? In his eye. You 256 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: two walked out, though I'm sure you've gotten the disapproval 257 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: daddy look from Todd like yeah, you're going, Oh God, 258 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: where are you going? We can do a whole show 259 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: on the dynamics of that room. So much fun should 260 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: be a reality show. Okay, we're gonna take our first break. 261 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: When we come back. We're gonna be joined by Buckey 262 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: Brooks's NFL network. We're gonna talk about this Washington offense 263 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: versus the Dallas defensive when you come right back. This 264 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. At ATNC, everyone new 265 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: and existing customers get our best deals on every smartphone. 266 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: Why because you deserve it. We're turning your living room 267 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: into your office and your gym. 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We 311 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: got Bucky Brooks joining us of NFL Network in a 312 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: sack Washington offense versus Dallas defense. Here's what I'm gonna start, Bucky. 313 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: The Dallas defense held Washington scoreless in the first half 314 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago and only allowed two touchdowns 315 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: in the second half. If you were Washington's offensive coordinator, 316 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: what would you do differently in this game to give 317 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: you a better chance of finding some success? Against this 318 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: Dallas defense man. That's because it depends on who's playing, Yeah, Gilbert. 319 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: If Gilbert is playing, you're still kind of limited. And 320 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: he gave a good effort against the Eagles last night, 321 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: but they're still kind of limited with what they had. 322 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: They also had some injuries intending to get some went 323 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: off the TREEO for a both bits. I would think 324 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: in general, the way that I would attempt to attack 325 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys is I still need to see if the 326 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys can handle a physical running game that comes after 327 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: their athleticism and stuff. Because they're so good going sideline 328 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: the sideline and playing the pass. I would have to 329 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: see how they respond to someone running right at them. 330 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: I know they've done will for the most part of 331 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: when it comes to dealing with the running game, I 332 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: think you have to test him that way to see 333 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: because I don't think you want to get into a 334 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: match where you're trying to protect against the Marcus Lawrence, 335 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: Randy Gregor and Michael Parsons and don't want to throw 336 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: against a team that is pipe of the league lead 337 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: and takeaways. I think you have to test them to 338 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: see if you can run at them. So whoever you 339 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: have in the Backford for Washington, I think we want 340 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: to see if you can come a muddy at the 341 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: game and run make it a physical context. The last 342 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: time the cab was faced Washington, I think Diggs traveled 343 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: with McLaurin until he got injured. Do you think diggs 344 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: Is interceptions is somewhat overshadowing the fact that he's also 345 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: taking on number one receivers and doing pretty good job 346 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: at that. Well, I mean that's the flashy stuff. That's 347 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: the stuff to seasy to see. When you look at 348 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: the stats sheet, right, you look at you as ten 349 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: on reception, you see how he's always around the ball. 350 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: You kind of tend to forget that he's traveling and 351 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: doing those things. And a lot of times, like what 352 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: makes him a little unique is normally cornerbacks coming two 353 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: different categories, right the either ballhawks or their cover galls. 354 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: He's different because he can cover, but he also has 355 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: ball hawks skills. Normally, your ball hawks are more gambler 356 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: guesser types, guys that want to sit back and playing 357 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: zone and kind of read eyes. He can do all 358 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: of that, but he's really grown I think a lot 359 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: indegibility to lock up and play man to man and 360 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: cover galls. It's hard to find guys that can do both, 361 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: and right now he's on the best in the business 362 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: and being able to do it. Bucky, I don't I 363 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: don't know where to go with this, Like, not only 364 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: did we they just played Washington, but we don't even 365 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: know who's going to be available on Sunday. So I guess, 366 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: just going along the lines that two of their three 367 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are on the COVID list, I'm just going to assume, 368 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: and I don't know, but I'm just going to assume 369 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: Garrett gil where it maybe has to play again, he 370 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: was clearly limited and how much how much he knew 371 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: of the offense last night? I thought he played pretty 372 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: well all things considered. But I guess my question is, 373 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: if he does have to play against Sunday, how much 374 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: more can you expect him to get with like two 375 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: or three more practices, just in terms of a game 376 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: planning standpoint. Well, that's easy because what you do, if 377 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: you Scott Turner, what you do is you don't try 378 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: and teach him an entire playbook. You just stay to 379 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: teach him a handful of plays to get through the game. 380 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: And so they would build upon what they did versus 381 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: the Eagles, they'd give him a little more stuff that 382 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: is more Cowboys specific, and you kind of go about 383 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: it that way. It's too late to try and figure 384 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: out like, hey, we're gonna do day one hand fall 385 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: from training camp. You just try and teach him the 386 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: plays off the call sheet. You're try and give him 387 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: enough for rest where he's comfortable with doing those things. 388 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: You try and spin it and kind of ship it 389 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: up with motions and ships and those things to run 390 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: those same plays over and over again, and you hope 391 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: that they're able to act execute well enough to walk 392 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: away with the win. Bucky, I mean, I'm struggling with 393 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: coming up with questions here, But what would you say 394 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: that it does? And this is not related to Washington, 395 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: but I'm sure you've heard Dad talk about kind of 396 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: competing with his own defense and making bets between the 397 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: two to see who does better. What do you think 398 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: that does to the whole team as a whole and 399 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball for them, I 400 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: think a couple of things. That indicates one. It appears 401 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: to me that this Cowboys team is really connected, connected 402 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: in terms of like the bond and the brotherhood, stuff 403 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: that you hear people talk about. It seems like they 404 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: have a genuine life for one another, which is really important. 405 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: Chemistry is underrated. And the fact that the offense really 406 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: hasn't carried its way to last four or five six games, 407 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: but the defense has been willing to stand up and 408 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: it's kind of being able to get it done speaks volumes. Now, 409 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: I think the bet has been done to try and 410 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: ignite the offense, to try and get them going. But 411 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, like that offense may not 412 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: get going, and it may not get going due to 413 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: the fact that then the defense is playing so well. 414 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: You might regard. You may tell Kelly More, hey man, 415 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: you might want to choke this thing down a little bit. 416 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: Like they can't score on us. It's no need for 417 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: us to go and be towing the line of aggressiveness 418 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: trying to put up points when we don't really need to. 419 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: So like, let's just kind of coach and put the 420 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: boat at the dock and kind of get it done. 421 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: And so we'll see if the defense continues to play 422 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: at this level, But it may end up being a 423 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: shift in mindset that we didn't anticipate heading into the year, 424 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: because we always thought it was gonna be the offense 425 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: and maybe the defense ca get a stop or two. 426 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: But now it's the defense that's kind of doing their 427 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: deal and the offense you're trying to say, hey man, 428 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: just don't mess it up. Yeah, on that question, I 429 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: was actually going to ask you about this, but it 430 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: seemed to me like last week maybe that was kind 431 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: of part of their thought process, because there were some 432 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: moments in that game where they were uncharacteristically a little 433 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: more conservative than they've been. Do you think this defense 434 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: is good enough for Dallas to lean on it going 435 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: into the playoffs and make them as competitive as a 436 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: playoff caliber team. Is this defense that good to be 437 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: able to give them that shot and give them the 438 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: best shot to be able to win the playoffs. Yeah, 439 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: the defense is good enough. And the reason why the 440 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: defense is good enough is because they at the top 441 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: of the charge were turnovers. It's a number one deciding 442 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: factor who wins and loses games. And if you look 443 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: at the teams that typically go deep in the postseason, 444 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: they're the teams that are at the top of the 445 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: charge when it comes to takeaways and turnover differential. And 446 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: so if you're Mike McCarthy. Look, here's one thing to 447 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: do it for a couple of games. It's another thing 448 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: to do it for a season. You now have a 449 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: realization like, hey man, we're really good on defense. I mean, 450 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: we're turning the ball over at an alarming rate. We're 451 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: setting up our offense for great opportunities. Hey, Kelling, maybe 452 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: we don't need to be as aggressive on offense pert 453 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: against these teams that we're playing. Maybe we don't need 454 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: to go hard against the Washington football team or the 455 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: Eagles or the jack because they can't score. So let's 456 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: just win the game and not worry about what it 457 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: looks like from a scholars standpoint. All right, we appreciate 458 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: you join us, Bucky. We'll be back with you tomorrow. 459 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: We'll talk some more about this Washington defense versus the 460 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys offense and better part of their union their team. Obviously, 461 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: we'll take our final break. Comeback. We'll get some more 462 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: talk on this Cowboys defense that when we come right back. 463 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. I want to 464 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: use what the pros use. 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Thanks, It's tacky Christmas Day for the Cowboys beat. 510 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: I was gonna visit. I was gonna wear a Santa 511 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: Claus hat, but the damn press conference ran for a 512 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: half hour, so I had to run straight down here. 513 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: Maybe tomorrow you're gonna wear it for the show. You 514 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: had it at your desk. You didn't want to wear 515 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: it into the not tomorrow, work tomorrow? Yeah, okay. What 516 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: would you do if if McCarthy just showed up with 517 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: him Santa hat on? I would I would love I 518 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: would love it a lot, absolutely love it. You would 519 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: probably go viral, it would go I would clip the 520 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: video out myself. That That reminds me of one of 521 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: my favorite videos we've ever done is when we did 522 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: that video US five years ago with jac Garrett and 523 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: those little kids got Garrison and stuff. That was amazing. 524 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: You could do that every year would just answers. I 525 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: mean basically was asking, like, you know, editing old answers 526 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: to questions. You know, it was just like Jason, what's 527 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: your your favorite reindeer? And then they'd you know, he'd 528 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: be late. We know, there's there's a lot of them. 529 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't like compare, you know, I don't like to compare. 530 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: They've been done this for a long time. They're really 531 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: they're really good at it. Yeah, and it's like someone, 532 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: what do you think about rude? Obviously he's a great leader, 533 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: he's got a nose for the ball. You know, It's 534 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: just stuff like that. It was, it was really good. 535 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: All right, Um, we got this final segment. I want 536 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about the defense. Let's zoom 537 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: in a little bit on the defense. There was I 538 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: was looking at some statistical categories, particular defenses around the NFL, 539 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: and there were a couple of categories where, first of all, 540 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: let me say, Cowboys are up in the top ten 541 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: and problem almost every category. There were a couple though, 542 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: that I noticed where they weren't ranked so high, and 543 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: one of them they really were ranked actually kind of poorly. 544 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 1: And I wanted to get your opinions on it because 545 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: I kind of noticed it a little bit, but it 546 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: didn't seem to be a huge deal. But I wanted 547 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: to see how you guys thought about it. Right now, 548 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: that Cowboys are thirtieth in the yards after catch that 549 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: they allow. They've allowed nineteen one thoue forty seven yards 550 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: after catch. That's next to next to last right in 551 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. Also, they're mixed missed tackles. They are twenty 552 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: third in the league with ninety six miss tackles. All 553 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: of that pointing to the fact that they're talent they're 554 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: tackling is probably if you're going to look for a weakness, 555 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: has been the weakness of this defense. My question for 556 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: you is has that been noticeable to you? Has that's 557 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: something that you notice? And how big of a problem 558 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: do you think it is? The run after catch? Absolutely has, 559 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's been a problem all year. Is 560 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: the explosives that they allow, And honestly, I think those 561 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: two things probably go hand in hand. I think they're 562 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: real quick explained that when you say the explosives, are 563 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: you saying that those are short passes that are being 564 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: taken there? Because it seems like a lot of those 565 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: are down field. They're both. I mean yet they are both, 566 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: but that has been a thing. Catch and run has 567 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: been a thing for them all year, and that leads 568 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: to a lot of explosives. I think those two things 569 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: go hand in hand because they're an aggressive defense. They're 570 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: trying to get after the quarterback or even you know, 571 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: you overpursue the play and leave the quarterback time to 572 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: find a guy that just doesn't have to do anything 573 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: because he's so open because the play lasted for seven 574 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: eight seconds. I think those are by products of being aggressive, 575 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: of trying to get takeaways. Um, I don't think it's 576 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: burned them, you know, um trying to think. I mean, shoot, 577 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: the last time they even played a game that felt 578 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: like it was in doubt in the final minutes would 579 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: have been Vegas, I guess. And there's about seventy yards 580 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: of yak in that game that one play, Yeah, to 581 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: pass over the middle to de Sean Jackson. I mean 582 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,479 Speaker 1: you not to not to bash them because they've been 583 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 1: playing so well, but like DeShawn Jackson has been borderline 584 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: worthless since he got to Vegas other than single handedly 585 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: swinging that game, and so may I mean, that's something 586 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: that they saw in the secondary. I guess between communication 587 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: and just the way Anthony Brown played that situation, should 588 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: signed him in the offseason. So I can't play against 589 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: don play against right just your bitch, you don't. Yeah, 590 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: yeah he is. He is that kind of kryptonite for 591 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. What are your thoughts on that, Nick, I 592 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: don't notice as a huge problem. I mean last year 593 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: we think back to all these deep balls that were 594 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: going against them. That's the one way obviously too. You 595 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: know that it's their style to keep it in front 596 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: of you don't get beat over the top. That's going 597 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: to be a touchdown every time. So I think when 598 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: you play that way, you are going to give up 599 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: catches and then yards and the stuff like that. So 600 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a it's a meaningless stat because 601 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: if the mistackles are there, then that that's a bad stat. 602 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: But I do think their style kind of opens up 603 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: for a lot of yards after catch, and you'll take 604 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: the turnovers that they're getting if you have to also 605 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: take this with it. Yeah, no, and that's I'm fine 606 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: with it. And even I go half and half because 607 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: another one that comes to mind, and it happened right 608 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: in front of me. The Saint's final garbage time touchdown 609 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: was atrocious defense. I mean Deonte Harris probably he caught 610 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: that ball what like twelve fifteen yards downfield and nobody 611 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: he slipped like one tackle and nobody touched him and 612 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: so and that's happened a few times this year. Carolina 613 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: had a couple going way way back. I think DJ 614 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: Moore and some other guy whose name I forgot, whose 615 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: name starts with like Z both had big catch and 616 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: runs um. But we've seen enough of a sample size 617 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: where I'm like, Okay, if this is a byproduct of 618 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: what you're doing, I'll take it. That's what I was 619 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: gonna say, Like, that's that's neat peaking there, and I'll 620 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: take it every day. I don't have a problem with it, 621 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: especially when the end result is what it is. And 622 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: see that I'm actually not that hard to impress, Like 623 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: it's it's not that hard. Like so, like they're they're 624 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: a top five defense in the league. They've got more 625 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: takeaways than they've had in a decade. I mean, that's 626 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of hard to do based on what we've 627 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: seen here over the last years. Yeah, I mean I 628 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: also think but but real quick. That's like you can 629 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: be perfect. There's no such thing as perfection. So the 630 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: fact that they're doing that but still doing everything else 631 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: that they're doing, I'll take that every day, every game 632 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: of the week. So when you get so much pressure 633 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: like they're getting, they're getting a ton of pressure, well 634 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm going there next. But you gotta get the ball 635 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: out quick. You're getting the ball out quick screens, bubble screens, 636 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: quick passes and that. So that's gonna get you know, 637 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: yards after catching all that. I and then the Cowboys 638 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: are doing a great job of not of getting the 639 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: ball out like force and fumbles. I mean they've been 640 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: done that. You know, in these last three or four games. 641 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: It's hadn't just been interceptions, it's been knocking the ball 642 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: out most of the last months. Expect these these last 643 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: three games, almost from halftime on, not so much the 644 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: Saints game, but but in the fourth quarter of that game, 645 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: you're you're not playing your regular defense lab I mean, 646 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: that's garbage time stuff where you're like, let's just stay 647 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: in a shell and not give up any crazy players. 648 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean what Jake Jake from goes in and garbage 649 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: time of this last game, I mean is did he 650 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: really drive them from their own seven to the Dallas 651 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: nine because he's the truth or because Dallas was like, 652 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: let's just get the hell out of here. They got 653 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: down there to the end. They didn't give up the 654 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: touchdown though, but that's I mean, that's eighty four yards 655 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: of offense that the Cowboys were basically content to give 656 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: up before they finally bubbled down. Yeah, this might be 657 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: a dumb question, but you guys know that I haven't 658 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: followed the NFL for really long time or anything, so 659 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. But when you have seen a team 660 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: that has a similar defense like the Cowboys, that has 661 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: played the way they kind of have in as far 662 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: as like takeaways and things like that, and they've been 663 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: able to kind of keep that going week after week, 664 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: does it ever, like, is there something that ever happens 665 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: that he gets to a point you know when you 666 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: talk about probability and like, yeah, all of the average 667 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: stuff stuff, is there such thing when you look at 668 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: takeaways week after week how successful they've been, and then 669 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: do you hit a wall at some point where now 670 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: it just kind of disappears. His name is Aaron Rodgers. 671 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: That's the wall. The wall has been true, I'd say 672 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: the question, but it's a great question, um, I mean, 673 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: turnovers are such a wishy washy stat like, there's there's 674 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: no way to quantify how to keep him coming. Although 675 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: your best your best bet to keep turnovers coming is 676 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: a pass rush a because you're either getting to the 677 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: ball or you're forcing the quarterback to make bad decisions 678 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: or like the one we saw early against the Giants 679 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: where the quarterback gets smacked while he's throwing the ball 680 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: and you don't know where it's going to go. So 681 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: and a pass rush can be consistent, I would say, 682 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: And Nick's totally right, because the best way to beat 683 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: a pass rush is to a be confident enough to 684 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: get the ball out immediately, like Tom Brady does, except 685 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is more athletic than Tom Brady, so he 686 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: can extend plays and get away from pressure. To you 687 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: get my point though, like Aaron Rodgers is built to 688 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: to nullify a pass rush because he knows I mean, 689 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: he's a surgeon out there, so he can get it 690 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: out immediately or he can extend play it. So I 691 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: guess the short answer is a very very very very 692 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: good quarterback is the ultimate way to combat that let's 693 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: check these out. When you talk about pressure, think about 694 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: this Cowboys right now. In a quarterback knockdown per pass attempt, 695 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: they are second in the league. They're tied a second 696 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: in the league with eleven point four percent of the 697 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: times that there is a pass attempt the quarterback gets 698 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: knocked down. That's pretty impressive. Then going further than the 699 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: knocked down knockdown not sack knockdown, which affects the quarterback right, 700 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I thought you were gonna say pressure, No, 701 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: knocked to the ground. And then pressures per drop back 702 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: twenty seven point six percent of the time when a 703 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: quarterback drops back against this team, they are under pressure. 704 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 1: That's sixth in the NFL. This is a pressure defense. 705 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: And here's the most important and I think the key 706 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: to how they play defense, the blitz is per dropback 707 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: are only at twenty four point six percent, which is 708 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: of eighteenth in the league. So they don't they're in 709 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: the bottom half of the league in the amount of 710 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: time they say an extra guy. They're typically doing this 711 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: with four and they're still getting this level of pressure. 712 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: How valuable is that when you head into a playoff 713 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: situation where you're playing these quarterbacks that can dissect you 714 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: anyway to give that extra person on the back end. 715 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: There are like five guys on this front, on this 716 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: defense who if you give them a one on one, 717 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: they're probably gonna win, like DeMarcus Randy, Micah Gallimore. I 718 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: hesitate to throw Osa in there, but he's been very 719 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: impressive for a rookie. I mean that's if you give 720 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: them a favorable matchup. There's just a lot of guys 721 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: on this team that will make you pay for it. 722 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: And it's it's exciting, it's it's I've never seen a 723 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: Dallas pass rush like this, like even even when they 724 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: and I wasn't here in oh seven or even oh nine, 725 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: Like I never wasn't this. I never saw a prime 726 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: Ware at least like as up close, like I mean 727 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: I watched the Cowboys back then, but my whole career 728 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: it's been like one guy where you're like if you 729 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: can just turn the corner, but they're chipping him and 730 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: not it's like, OK, chip to Marcus if you want to. 731 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: Randy's one on one over there or I mean, I know, sorry, 732 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: I know we thought he was a good player, but 733 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: I've been I'm so impressed by Neville Gallimore, second year player. 734 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: He came on last year, but like, you're not putting 735 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: him in the Pro Bowl. He misses this entire season basically, 736 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: and you're kind of like, Okay, how good is he 737 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: really going to be immediately? And like just watch the games. 738 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he's blowing people up from the gate. He's 739 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: he's got a sack and a half as a d 740 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: tackle after two games he could finish with as many 741 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: as like four, which for a lot of D tackles 742 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: is a great season, right. I think the most underrated 743 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: part of the Cowboys defense has been their interior rush. 744 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: We see it all from the outside. We see Gregory 745 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: and of course Parsons, but Parsons rushes from the middle two. 746 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: But I think the fact that Odigi Zoa even Tristan 747 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: Hill him and he's when he's out there and healthy, 748 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a he's a problem for those I mean, 749 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 1: he gets up the field. I think that interior pass 750 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: rush has been underrated because it helps you can't step 751 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 1: up in the pocket because the pocket is in your face. 752 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: And that sacked by d law Or it wasn't a sack, 753 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: it was a it was a hit in an interception 754 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: by Lawrence. But I mean, I'm sorry Jordan Lewis, but 755 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: I thought just the outside rush by Parsons forces you 756 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: to step up. You know they say it all the time, 757 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 1: step up in the pocket. Well, you can't really step 758 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: up if there's a guy right in your face. And 759 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: so I think the interior rush gets overlooked naturally, but 760 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: it's been really big. That's helped this whole thing. And 761 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: DeMarcus has been shifting inside a lot that came against 762 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: the guard I think it was Hernandez that he bullied 763 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: on that interception. And did we talk about I think 764 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: we said this yesterday. I just I would love to 765 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: see a rematch with the Bucks. Yeah. With the way 766 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: that this pass rush is operating right now, it's it's fun. 767 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: It's really fun. It's just cool to see how much 768 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: they complement each other like player wise, and when you 769 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: talked about a little is there a weak link? Yeah, 770 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: there are players are not as great the other one, 771 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: but the fact that they are complimenting each other it 772 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: just balances it all all out. So it's just it's 773 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 1: great when you get something like that working really well. 774 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: As opposed to the old line for the Cowboys, that 775 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: we need that there too. Yeah, it's interesting. I just 776 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 1: want to see how much And you talk about Tampa 777 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: Bay that matchup. There are lots of teams in the 778 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: playoffs that I think when you get to playoff football, 779 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: the ability to rush with four, the ability to keep 780 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: seven back, and when you've got guys like they have 781 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: on the back end, who are athletic, who can cover 782 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: ground quickly, who are ballhawks, it does create some interesting 783 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: matchups and I think that's what's going to help Dallas 784 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 1: when you start talking about matchups against teams like Tampa 785 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: against Green Bay against Arizona, all those teams that have 786 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that can run around back. There 787 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: some really great old lines on those teams too. Though. 788 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 1: That's I mean makes it it's fun to think about. 789 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: At the end of the year. We put together some 790 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: highlight package it says, here's all the interceptions. This isn't 791 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: Larry Brown picking off nil O'Donnell in the Super Bowl 792 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: where they're just bath throw. I mean there's been a 793 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: couple of those. Some of the best catches of the 794 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: season have come from that side of the ball. Yeah, 795 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean Jordan Lewis and Anthony Brown tipping the ball 796 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: up in the air. And Jayron Curs has had some 797 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: I mean digs, of course digs. His interception has been phenomenal, 798 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: but keeping yeah, I mean you this is probably I mean, 799 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: this is a lot of interceptions. But these are the 800 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: best catches from the defensive side that I've seen ever, 801 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 1: you know, covering the Cowboys. I mean, we joke all time, 802 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: well that's why you play defense. And now these guys 803 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: I've made some great, great catches over there. And it's 804 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: not just digs. It's Lewis Brown, Gregory, Uh, curse, you know, 805 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm probably missing some Casey. Casey had one against the Chargers. 806 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: That ball was going one hundred miles an hour and 807 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: he just like caught it with his face. But I 808 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: mean that was a huge play in the game. So 809 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: how are these coaches, like what is dan Quinn doing? 810 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: And the coaching staff, like, how are they coaching these players? 811 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: Because that's what it's so impressive talk about ballhawk is 812 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 1: the fact of them making the play but then keeping 813 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: awareness and finding the ball catching it. So it's just 814 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: it's amazing because in the time that I've been here, 815 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: haven't seen that whatsoever. So that's and a lot of 816 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: these guys are the same, like a lot of them 817 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 1: are the same players, which my answer just spitballing would 818 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: probably be confidence confidence where people say it confidence is infectious, 819 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: confidence in the scheme, confidence and where they're supposed to be. 820 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: Confidence that the pass rush is going to get to 821 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback and have him throw as the pressure interceptible ball. Yeah, 822 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: but it's the pressure that, like you said, like the 823 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 1: pressure is leading to all of but you know, you 824 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: know it doesn't have a pig that Parsons swears he 825 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: needs one round up his game a little bit more 826 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: and get some interceptions. Doing everything else, he gets the interception. 827 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: I think dpo Wise kind of wrapped up, did you guys? 828 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,240 Speaker 1: I guess I missed the sounds from the sideline against 829 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: Washington because there was so much going on. But he 830 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: dropped that pick and like everybody was giving him hell. 831 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: But my favorite line was Al Harris was like, y'all 832 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: got holes in your pockets right now, like y'all are 833 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: dropping money, Like true it is. I like that that's 834 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: the way he's talking to him for a defender, Like, 835 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, what else, Matt, Like what matters more than that? 836 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: Saxon picks. That's what gets you paid. So you're just 837 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,720 Speaker 1: messing with your own bag. All right, guys, we appreciate 838 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: you joining us. We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna get 839 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: into this Washington defense versus the Cowboys offense. That is 840 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: where the matchup is. If there is a matchup in 841 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: this game, we'll tell you what to expect. We'll also 842 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: go and give you our predictions for the weekend because 843 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: it will be our final show for this week till then. 844 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: For Nick Eaton, Dave Hellman, and Amber Garcia. I am 845 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas 846 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of 847 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.