Speaker 1: H m.
Speaker 2: Moments of generosities when you can actually rekindle and revisit
Speaker 2: with great friends and have great conversation toasted that.
Speaker 3: M hm. Oh yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right,
Speaker 3: that's right.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of defining moment with us
Speaker 1: as a group. I thought the two that that stand
Speaker 1: out was the one was on the duck boat before
Speaker 1: the year, when we were sitting on the duck boat
Speaker 1: and I needed y'all to buy into me because y'all
Speaker 1: didn't know me. Paul knew me, and uh I gave
Speaker 1: you know, we went on. We got the duck boat,
Speaker 1: which Kevin was like, what are we doing on a duck?
Speaker 1: But what are we doing? A duck's a duck boat.
Speaker 1: And we got the dug boat to go on the
Speaker 1: exact parade route that we're gonna go on if we wanted,
Speaker 1: and I wanted them to envision it. Uh. But then
Speaker 1: we started talking about what we had to do. Remember,
Speaker 1: the boat got quiet. It was just us. But and
Speaker 1: I said, listen, y'all gotta sacrifice. Y'all gotta give up this.
Speaker 1: Y'all gotta give up this. Y'all gotta trust me, You
Speaker 1: gotta allow me to coach you, and it's gonna be hard,
Speaker 1: and y'all all everyone you rate. That wasn't even a
Speaker 1: hesitation like Kevin said, I'll give up all my shots.
Speaker 1: I don't want any shots. And I was like, that's
Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that we got
Speaker 1: a sacrifice. And then we talked about defense. And then
Speaker 1: the other one was you know all the young guys,
Speaker 1: the big big Baby. I'm telling you he was a nut.
Speaker 1: But I called big Baby and whoever else with the
Speaker 1: young guys can't remember who. Leon Pold called him in
Speaker 1: my room in room and I've done I've been researching
Speaker 1: this in Botoo for a month at that point, and
Speaker 1: I had all emery, had so many notes, and we
Speaker 1: had all this yellow stuff written down. And I brought
Speaker 1: Big Baby in, who was a food and uh that yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was his rookie year and Leon pol and
Speaker 1: I said, hey, tomorrow, y'all are going to present this word.
Speaker 1: And I remember a big Baby would tell you. I
Speaker 1: looked at him and said, hey, listen, this ain't no,
Speaker 1: this ain't nofing. Joe. I said, I may cut you
Speaker 1: guys if you don't do this ship right tomorrow. I
Speaker 1: mean I put the fear of God. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1: I gave them a stack. And I don't know why
Speaker 1: I didn't check. That was stupid of me. Uh. They
Speaker 1: they came that morning. That presentation was amazing. It was
Speaker 1: the best guy.
Speaker 4: But there realizes Big Baby majored in drama in theater.
Speaker 1: But he presented it. He was sweating, he was teary eyed. Uh.
Speaker 1: And right when it finished and he said one, two,
Speaker 1: three and two, he was over. It was bought in.
Speaker 1: And that was from Big Baby and Leon Poe. Am
Speaker 1: missing somebody else. But it was awesome. And I thought
Speaker 1: as far as us coming together, that was a huge,
Speaker 1: especially being in Rome. For whatever reason that meant something.
Speaker 3: We might need to go back to Rome. Just three
Speaker 3: of us.
Speaker 4: I'm all four with it.
Speaker 3: Y'all know what it is is taking the truth. Man.
Speaker 3: We got the great Doc Rivers.
Speaker 1: They didn't say that when I coached him. But now
Speaker 1: we're good.
Speaker 3: It's always like that, right, How you.
Speaker 1: Doing, man, I've been great, man, it's been it's been
Speaker 1: really good, really relaxed, relaxed for real.
Speaker 4: I was just thinking that dog yelling on the sideline.
Speaker 4: Marshal us he looked, he look cool.
Speaker 1: Great. You know, sometimes like I love I love coaching,
Speaker 1: I'm up, but I do. But sometimes you need this
Speaker 1: and that break. I probably needed it three or four
Speaker 1: years before that. You just don't know it because you
Speaker 1: love what you're doing, and then when it's forced on
Speaker 1: you, you're sitting back. And it took me about the middle
Speaker 1: of summer when I remember, I think it was money
Speaker 1: Williams or Darvin Ham called me about something about training
Speaker 1: camp and I actually should training camp and it was
Speaker 1: like a week away. I hadn't even thought about it.
Speaker 1: That's when I knew, said, man, this is good, really good.
Speaker 4: So but you've been in the NBA how long though, now,
Speaker 4: like from playing to coaching.
Speaker 3: How many years you did?
Speaker 1: Damn forty forty plus more than half your life. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sixty two. That's what I'm saying. You need this.
Speaker 1: You need.
Speaker 3: Raise your kids in it.
Speaker 1: My kids about NBA kids like, they all be in it.
Speaker 1: They've been in locker rooms, they've been in uh man,
Speaker 1: trying to road traveling. They got to you know, Austin
Speaker 1: got to play against y'all, which was the funniest thing
Speaker 1: of all time.
Speaker 3: That was that was hilarious.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Austin being on the bus as a little kid
Speaker 4: coming to practice shooting around. The next thing, I know,
Speaker 4: I got an io with him at the top of
Speaker 4: the key.
Speaker 1: I said, him and him and Kevin score off in
Speaker 1: the game, and I'm thinking there, Austin was a little
Speaker 1: kid in the parade right right, yes, the parade man.
Speaker 2: That was probably one of the more odd situations, right
Speaker 2: because I looked at him and he said.
Speaker 3: I heard what he said, like, I said what you?
Speaker 3: I said what? And I caught myself like.
Speaker 2: What hey, what hey, chill out, It's good.
Speaker 3: How is he?
Speaker 1: How is it? You know he's doing TV now. It's great.
Speaker 1: He touched it once to play, but he loved what
Speaker 1: he's doing. So all good, all good, y'all. Look good
Speaker 1: you you you.
Speaker 4: You gotta be a proud dad. Just to have a
Speaker 4: kid make the n b A and see his progression
Speaker 4: to where he is now. I mean, you know, we
Speaker 4: got sons now, we're trying to him. My son is
Speaker 4: ten years old now. We wish it could be something
Speaker 4: like that. So I know that that's been an amazing feeling.
Speaker 1: It was cool. Coaching them was different. You know, the
Speaker 1: thing if you are coaching a kid facial in the NBA,
Speaker 1: you want them to be the worst player on the
Speaker 1: team or the best player. You do not want them
Speaker 1: to be in the middle because that creates that can
Speaker 1: create all kinds of stuff. But it's still you know
Speaker 1: when I had to trade him, thinking about I had
Speaker 1: to trade my son and uh that call, Like, I
Speaker 1: was emotional because man, I got a call to trade
Speaker 1: him and he saved me. He was like that, it's
Speaker 1: time for me to go, he said, but I got
Speaker 1: a chance to play with my pots and he said,
Speaker 1: nobody else can say that. He said later, We're gonna
Speaker 1: love this. So it was cool.
Speaker 3: How do you like your TV? Man?
Speaker 1: TV is great? You know what's funny. Before I coach,
Speaker 1: I did three years of TV. It really helped me
Speaker 1: because you know, when you're a player, you're in that
Speaker 1: system and you know that system, and so when you're
Speaker 1: a coach, you create your own system. Now I've coached
Speaker 1: so long, I had different had a system for y'all.
Speaker 1: It's one thing I did as a coach is I
Speaker 1: looked at what I had and fit and made the
Speaker 1: system fit that instead of just having the system, you
Speaker 1: guys got to work into that you know. So now
Speaker 1: I'm sitting back and I'm going to these practices and
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches are calling you, you know, for advice,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't you know me, I wasn't one of those.
Speaker 1: When I was coaching, I wasn't talking to I wasn't
Speaker 1: having a conversation with a lot of coaches. I had
Speaker 1: a few friends, but I don't know. I grew up
Speaker 1: and then nine au career, so I didn't know. Everybody
Speaker 1: didn't want to I wanted to do I don't need
Speaker 1: to talk to you. But now I'm talking. I'm talking
Speaker 1: to coaches now I've never talked to like even never
Speaker 1: had a relationship with you. And it's been awesome. They
Speaker 1: asked you questions and and you know, so you're learning.
Speaker 1: I'm always learning always, you know, because it's just what
Speaker 1: you do. So that's been a really cool process. And
Speaker 1: some of the guys that didn't think I liked, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: that's a good dude, really because you don't get a
Speaker 1: chance to know it any guys. And there's a you know,
Speaker 1: not saying and there's a few coaches I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this gots terrible. And now you're talking to him you're
Speaker 1: here his knowledge and you're like, man, it's amazing. So
Speaker 1: that it's been really good for me.
Speaker 4: I want to know something because like I think I've
Speaker 4: been around doctor long as as a player, and I
Speaker 4: know how he used to coach me. And like I
Speaker 4: watched towards the end of my career and the transition
Speaker 4: from like this era of players to the next, Like
Speaker 4: how how was that? Because I saw a different you
Speaker 4: come from the one that coached me to the one
Speaker 4: that coached like the next generation, Like how was that transition?
Speaker 1: You know, I've been in long enough and like.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say you coached me hard, coach hard?
Speaker 1: You coached me hard. Yeah we had some days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had some off days Paul, early on, you know,
Speaker 1: when I first took the job, and we're gonna be
Speaker 1: very good, but I thought you could be more efficient.
Speaker 1: And I came in and I said, Paul, you gotta
Speaker 1: play this way, and you're like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: I know you made it, but you can be better.
Speaker 1: I remember we had the conversation with about you were
Speaker 1: shooting like forty two and I asked you, Paul, you're
Speaker 1: a great shooter, and you said, yeah, I'm a great shooter.
Speaker 1: And I said, well, you're shooting forty two, so either
Speaker 1: you're a great shooter taking bad shots or you're not
Speaker 1: a great shooter. I'm a great shooter, then you're taking
Speaker 1: mad shots. Let's work on it and give Paul credit,
Speaker 1: like we button heads. And then remember you just walked
Speaker 1: in my office. You know what what you want to try.
Speaker 4: To do, We're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't me like I. I wouldn't. I wouldn't give in.
Speaker 1: I think you knew I was crazy enough. This guy
Speaker 1: ain't changing. So but you did it. But this is
Speaker 1: a different group. I've had three. When I first started,
Speaker 1: it was like a different group than by the time.
Speaker 1: Y'all different era of guys where you can really coach
Speaker 1: your group and this group is so much more sensitive
Speaker 1: because they have so much more stuff because social media. See,
Speaker 1: we didn't have that these guys every day. What was
Speaker 1: the first thing the books said after the Laker game
Speaker 1: with the non call? You know, I was on Twitter
Speaker 1: and everybody was saying me, like, because it's a different generation,
Speaker 1: these guys, there's people that the peripheral people now are involved.
Speaker 1: When we were you couldn't get involved when I played,
Speaker 1: think about my first eight years as a player. There's
Speaker 1: no such thing. I'm showing my age of a cell phone.
Speaker 1: That one. So when we got on the bus, we
Speaker 1: talked to each other. When y'all got on the bus,
Speaker 1: it was loud. You get on the bus. Now it
Speaker 1: is silent on the device. And so you come in
Speaker 1: in halftime. Now people are looking down and you walk
Speaker 1: in and I don't have a rule, but they know
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be on the phone. And always you know, uh,
Speaker 1: Sam can say always laugh, he said. The players that
Speaker 1: have no idea what you actually see and what you
Speaker 1: don't see, you know, because I see everything, you know,
Speaker 1: but you've got to act like you don't see it.
Speaker 1: But you know what they're doing now they're talking to
Speaker 1: their individual coach. They're talking to you know, and every coach,
Speaker 1: all these guys, I've met an individual coach who have
Speaker 1: ever called me about defense? You know. So that was
Speaker 1: the rule I made. I have one call me. You know,
Speaker 1: my guy needs to get most shots. And said, listen,
Speaker 1: first of all, you're that part of this team, you know,
Speaker 1: and we're going to do what we need to do
Speaker 1: for the techno win. I said, But here's our new deal.
Speaker 1: You can call me about the defense anytime. Anytime you
Speaker 1: think your guy needs to play harder defense, just give
Speaker 1: me a call. And I I never got on you
Speaker 1: don't hear that. But but but you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: understand that though they are more sensitive because these guys
Speaker 1: are criticized more, there's more people. They read the comments,
Speaker 1: you know, they read the social media comments. That all
Speaker 1: of them have their own brand. No one had that,
Speaker 1: so it is different and you gotta be conscious of that.
Speaker 1: And there was times I failed on that because there's
Speaker 1: time they needed to be coached. And so even coaching
Speaker 1: like you you would tell you wouldn't come to me.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't say, man, uh, Tony needs to play, Paul
Speaker 1: needs to do this. You would say, Paul, you need
Speaker 1: to do this. This generation will come to you. The
Speaker 1: guys sit next to them and because they they don't
Speaker 1: communicate as well, and you can always see the teams
Speaker 1: that communicate will win and the teams that don't, well,
Speaker 1: you can visually see it and it's obvious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who got and Bonner, listen, anytime we're in a
Speaker 2: personal seting, I have to I don't even say it,
Speaker 2: but The whole thing was about Genobili.
Speaker 4: Right, the coaches here, Oh, this is the story.
Speaker 2: The whole thing was about Genobili. Right, we were God
Speaker 2: Genobli that night. We were there to stopping Genobili.
Speaker 1: Right, We're there to stop Genova first.
Speaker 3: So he was on the road.
Speaker 2: Four pick and roll. The three four pick and roll
Speaker 2: was the most famous because he popped right. I didn't
Speaker 2: have a rotator. We were chopping Genobili. I got no rotator.
Speaker 2: So Ricky Head was hitting. That's was the game playing,
Speaker 2: right it was. But okay, go ahead, I'll tell you
Speaker 2: a funny day. So we're at halftime and bottoms rolling
Speaker 2: right twenty and a half this time. So, but Genobi
Speaker 2: is under control of God.
Speaker 1: We're trying to control. But Sam will verify. I told Sam,
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about Bonner. It's
Speaker 1: it's Kevin, right, But I said it already. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why I did it. I wasn't doing it for the
Speaker 1: more reasons. How he did it.
Speaker 4: Was also think about our team. We can go out
Speaker 4: and we can say it to each other before you
Speaker 4: had to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we hold each other accountable and said, like, who's
Speaker 1: who's gotten Bonner?
Speaker 2: He lost his mind? Was so I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: bottom old fun. He was like, Kevin, we're here to
Speaker 2: stop Youoba. Oh yeah, we're here to stop you get
Speaker 2: out of your field.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it then, don't say that. He'll know.
Speaker 1: I say, listen, we're gonna have to send some help
Speaker 1: on Bonner.
Speaker 3: Okay, don you know what I'm saying. It was all good.
Speaker 2: I'm glad we could laugh about that. But yeah, wait,
Speaker 2: I see Bonner next time. If you ain't any place hooping.
Speaker 3: I see you as By.
Speaker 2: Talking about calling the games now, one perspective out love
Speaker 2: is that when you're watching the sets, you like, I
Speaker 2: love hearing the commentator through how you're watching the game
Speaker 2: as a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm seeing it as a coach, and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get people to see it that way. Like last night, Uh,
Speaker 1: New Orleans kept running the five four picking rolls and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, they keep running this, They're gonna
Speaker 1: keep getting a D and Lebron two best defenders, and
Speaker 1: you can see that and you need to go away
Speaker 1: from That's not gonna work tonight. But that was their
Speaker 1: bread and butter. But not against the Lakers. It just
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna work. So I try to show the fan that, uh,
Speaker 1: someone at the game to be a positive game. We
Speaker 1: got a great game. And I think it's so easy
Speaker 1: to criticize. And you know, like I'll say this something
Speaker 1: I've learned doing TV. Uh not learned, but you watch
Speaker 1: players differently. Ad would be a great example. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been watching them and I look at Ad now
Speaker 1: and I said, eighty's more pipping. And we don't understand
Speaker 1: that Ad won a national title scoring six points. He
Speaker 1: dominated defensive defensive And so I actually called Cal. I said, Cal,
Speaker 1: what what would you say to that? He said, that's
Speaker 1: who he is. He can score, he can pass, he
Speaker 1: does a lot of things great. But if you ask
Speaker 1: him what he wants to do every night, he wants
Speaker 1: to be the dominant defensive player. And so it kind
Speaker 1: of changed me a little bit. There are nights you
Speaker 1: still should dominate.
Speaker 4: You look at his ability. That's exactly he has the
Speaker 4: one A ability he does you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he did it in New Orleans. But now
Speaker 1: he's playing with the guy that is one A and
Speaker 1: he's like, you know what, I'm going to do? What
Speaker 1: it takes, So I have changed the there are knights
Speaker 1: you want him to be more aggressive, but it has
Speaker 1: changed me a little bit on that just just watching him.
Speaker 4: That's when you see those nights when you see him dominant, Yeah,
Speaker 4: taking the one a row. Yeah he's thirty eight and
Speaker 4: fifteen because Lebron is thirty eight thirty nine. I mean
Speaker 4: he has so much match Yeah, yeah, I need some
Speaker 4: of whatever. Hea that's the subject. But like when you
Speaker 4: see it, it's like it's like it's teasing you and
Speaker 4: you're like, man, you know he can do this every night.
Speaker 4: He could do the same things that in b does.
Speaker 4: He can do the same thing that Joker does. At
Speaker 4: the end of the day. If you was coaching him,
Speaker 4: you would tell him this his mindset. That was pretty much.
Speaker 1: You remember there was a game Cleveland and Cleveland playoff game,
Speaker 1: and I needed Kevin to be aggressive because Tony. The
Speaker 1: number was twenty and I kept I use the word
Speaker 1: twenty like forty times in the speech. I said, We're
Speaker 1: gonna have twenty this, twenty this, and the number was
Speaker 1: Kevin had to take twenty field goal. Yeah, man, I
Speaker 1: kept saying the word twenty to Finally you said, I
Speaker 1: got it man, I got it twenty But you know,
Speaker 1: that's what you have to do sometimes because Kevin. One
Speaker 1: thing I said about Kevin, you're so unselfish there were
Speaker 1: knights I had to remind you that you were because
Speaker 1: you did everything else. Uh. You know, you remember I'd say,
Speaker 1: moved the ball, and I yell it, you shoot the ball,
Speaker 1: and you said, he told me. I didn't tell that
Speaker 1: to Paul. Well, knew he used to tell me to
Speaker 1: move all He never had to tell that Paul, and
Speaker 1: Ray was a different.
Speaker 3: To tell that the ticket he had to tell that to.
Speaker 1: Me, Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, but you do have to.
Speaker 1: You just got to get get every guy on the
Speaker 1: team to understand the role for the team, not only
Speaker 1: for the team for the year, sometimes for that night.
Speaker 1: And that's the hardest thing about coach X. And it
Speaker 1: is easy, you know. I always felt I felt like
Speaker 1: in the time out, what I was gonna draw, wish
Speaker 1: going or we're gonna get a good I always felt
Speaker 1: very good about that. Uh. But getting guys at each
Speaker 1: individual player to buy into his role. And you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's not gonna get the row they want, but if
Speaker 1: you want to win, you have to do that. You're
Speaker 1: looking at all these teams right now and like, Noalkey,
Speaker 1: right now, they're gonna get it, but they ain't got
Speaker 1: it and you can see it, you can visually see it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take time. Think about Giannie has played one way,
Speaker 1: Dame has played one way, and so they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to figure it out. And they're going to because I
Speaker 1: think they You got to be ready to win. And
Speaker 1: you know, remember that dug boat right where I told
Speaker 1: y'all give yall guys names. There's a lot of guys,
Speaker 1: you know, all of them trying to do is win.
Speaker 1: And I say, yeah, not really, you're trying to win
Speaker 1: as long as you get to do whatever you want
Speaker 1: to do. That's just not the case. What's the old
Speaker 1: saying the individual has to lose for the team to win.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of truth to that. You know that
Speaker 1: you got to give up something. And so when I'm
Speaker 1: watching them, you're watching all the new teams that are
Speaker 1: just put together, even Boston, and they're rolling when Brazilian's plays.
Speaker 1: But there's times Jalen you can see he's off kilt
Speaker 1: there at times. It just takes time.
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, I understand that you got to lose one.
Speaker 4: I was taking nineteen shots. I went from nineteen shots
Speaker 4: to twelve shots a game. I was like, damn. Then
Speaker 4: you became were winning now.
Speaker 1: But it ain't easy, man, and for y'all, especially now,
Speaker 1: it's even harder. For y'all. It's hard because I don't
Speaker 1: care who you are when you go home, all your boys,
Speaker 1: all your friends. That we always called them the peripheral
Speaker 1: opponents because they are. Everybody outside the locker room is
Speaker 1: the opponent, including families at times, you know, including families,
Speaker 1: because all they're telling you. They're never gonna tell you
Speaker 1: what you need to hear. They're gonna tell you what
Speaker 1: you want to hear. And what they're gonna tell you
Speaker 1: is you need to shoot more. You ain't get enough shots.
Speaker 1: Think about every single player, it's saying, and then the
Speaker 1: guys who aren't playing, you need to play more, and
Speaker 1: to play more, you need to shoot more. I mean, that's.
Speaker 3: Day.
Speaker 4: That was the one thing Doc you are great at
Speaker 4: was reminding us that, yeah, because you knew that as
Speaker 4: you were you as a player and as a coach,
Speaker 4: you understood that. And when y'all, when I used to
Speaker 4: hear you say that, like yeah, he right, we have
Speaker 4: to battle these these outsiders. We had to battle to outsiders.
Speaker 4: And when you constantly reminded us, it helped us out
Speaker 4: so much because when guys were coming too the locker
Speaker 4: room and feel a certain way and you bounced that
Speaker 4: off of us, they'd be like, look, it's it's bigger
Speaker 4: than that. It's about what's right here. And that was key.
Speaker 4: I swear that was key for us in our locker room.
Speaker 4: That kept it good.
Speaker 1: That you guys bought in. I mean, we had our
Speaker 1: days as a group. You know, No, this was after yeah, No,
Speaker 1: this was you know what I got after.
Speaker 3: We were got it got.
Speaker 1: It's so hard that that's when I seek people out
Speaker 1: that have wanted And Michael Jordan said to me, he said,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be your problem. It ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: uh after you were the Big three, It's gonna be
Speaker 1: everybody else. Because every single player on your team has
Speaker 1: gone away and had the trophy for a week or
Speaker 1: two and they were the man. When they come back,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have fifteen guys and think they're the man
Speaker 1: that it's gonna take you all year to get them
Speaker 1: to get back to who they are. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: your roads don't grow. Like Rangos wrote, group you know
Speaker 1: at each year, you know, but that mean everybody's.
Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like that's what happened with
Speaker 4: the Draymond Pool situation. And I don't know, but like
Speaker 4: just seeing it the year after, just I felt like
Speaker 4: they wanted and then you know how guys came back
Speaker 4: and wanted a bigger role. I don't know for sure,
Speaker 4: but I bet you that has something to.
Speaker 1: Do with it, I think. And I don't know either,
Speaker 1: but I think you're one hundred percent right. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And you know what I've always learned.
Speaker 1: You guys know this when you don't hear a lot
Speaker 1: of comments on the team, you know they didn't everybody
Speaker 1: on the outside thought it was awful.
Speaker 3: You didn't have one player or upstairs nothing, So you.
Speaker 1: Knew there was something in there because I saw what us.
Speaker 4: But it's just because we kind of controller within ours
Speaker 4: didn't get out of control. I feel like, and I
Speaker 4: was like, I know, that's the first thing that.
Speaker 1: We had fights. There was stuff. That's what people like.
Speaker 1: That's the difference to now everything is seen, everything is
Speaker 1: known last night, then the in the Milwaukee game. After
Speaker 1: the game, one of the players went off and it
Speaker 1: was reported ten minutes after that that's how is that
Speaker 1: possible that that's that that can't get out. It's okay
Speaker 1: to have those conversations. We've had off, had heated conversations.
Speaker 1: It's part of growing, uh. But it's got to stay
Speaker 1: in house, and it's not staying in house with a
Speaker 1: lot of teams.
Speaker 4: That's one of the differences right there. That changed from
Speaker 4: our error to now. We always our stuff stayed in house.
Speaker 4: You always preached that, like nothing to leave here. Boy,
Speaker 4: We're gonna keep everything, handle everything in But now it's
Speaker 4: that's not the but.
Speaker 1: But things stay in house in Miami, things stay in
Speaker 1: house in San Antonio State. That was the first time
Speaker 1: that ever got out. Yeah, So you still got to
Speaker 1: protect your culture. And that's that's where I think if
Speaker 1: I struggled the most h once I left Boston. You know,
Speaker 1: I went to the Clippers trying to create a culture,
Speaker 1: went to Clippers, and that's why you realize how important
Speaker 1: like everybody employees. That's the first time, you know, I
Speaker 1: was always just the coach, and then I got the
Speaker 1: Clippers and I was trying to do everything, and you
Speaker 1: realize all those employees are underpaid, so they again loyalty
Speaker 1: for what you know, they're quitting the manager Pete Right,
Speaker 1: I've been there for thirty years making fifty The average
Speaker 1: is like, he's been there. Let me think about that.
Speaker 1: And so when you come in and you're talking to
Speaker 1: your employees, by we got a whole buy in, and
Speaker 1: they're like, for what I'm getting. Everybody's getting fired all
Speaker 1: the time with this organization. So you know, other than
Speaker 1: winning the championship, that was my biggest success is changing
Speaker 1: the culture with that group. And it took a long time,
Speaker 1: and you wasted you had to, You wasted a lot
Speaker 1: of equity trying to do it, but it was it.
Speaker 2: Was worth it, so worth it. I just wondered, Man,
Speaker 2: would you ever go into ownership whichever.
Speaker 1: I'd love to love to. I just need you to
Speaker 1: buy the team.
Speaker 3: I think there's one coming out here in Vegas.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Vegas, I was coming up your front office ownership.
Speaker 1: I you know, the one thing I did that you
Speaker 1: can't be a coach and a front of I did
Speaker 1: that for a year. That's a headache, right, you know,
Speaker 1: Lawrence rank Lass To this day, it was it was
Speaker 1: like game twenty and we're sitting on the bench doing
Speaker 1: the game and I turned to him and said, this
Speaker 1: is your last year coaching. And he's like, what I said,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be a GM next year.
Speaker 4: I'm done with this because he's.
Speaker 1: Doing the game it was and he was like, what
Speaker 1: are you? I said, no, this is it? This is nuts.
Speaker 1: I mean you're watching college guys talking to it's you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, people used to do it.
Speaker 1: Matt Riley did it, and Red did it, but the
Speaker 1: league's gotten too big to staffs are too big.
Speaker 3: So you know what, I don't understand that too big,
Speaker 3: too big.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: Understand the role of the general manager anymore after because
Speaker 4: you got the general manager and then you got the president.
Speaker 1: So what's the role of the general Well, it depends
Speaker 1: on the group. You know. To be a great organization,
Speaker 1: there has to be a team. Danny and I like,
Speaker 1: you can go into Danny and say something about me
Speaker 1: without me not knowing. You know, Danny wasn't gonna tell
Speaker 1: Paul I'll do this and then come to me into Danny.
Speaker 1: When somebody came to Danny there, Oftentimes you just bring
Speaker 1: you let's go on down, Let's go sit with Doc.
Speaker 1: The other thing with Danny and Danny, I had some
Speaker 1: drag out arguments, then we go to dinner. We were
Speaker 1: always we covered for each other. When Danny made a
Speaker 1: bad draft pick, you never read that Doc wanted somebody else.
Speaker 1: Or when I said let's go with this guy, you
Speaker 1: never read that Danny wanted somebody else. I mean, Ronald
Speaker 1: was a great example. So Danny came in to me
Speaker 1: even for the year before the season, Hey, I want
Speaker 1: you to look at this tape with Rondo. And I
Speaker 1: looked at her. He can't play. This guy can't play.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking at. When I first saw Rondo,
Speaker 1: and then I kept looking and I said, man, this
Speaker 1: dude can he can? You know you start seeing it.
Speaker 1: Then I called all the coaches at Kentucky. The report
Speaker 1: wasn't very good, you know Rondo. So I'm worried, and
Speaker 1: Danny said, hey, you trust me. Yeah, we got it.
Speaker 1: And two days in the cameras, oh man, we got
Speaker 1: to steal. I mean, but no one knew that. Danny
Speaker 1: never said, hey, I always wanted them, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: and Tony's in the room, so I'm gonna bring this up.
Speaker 1: I was going to turn down the celt job because
Speaker 1: I just left Orlando. I wanted the year and Danny
Speaker 1: calls me and said, hey, can we talk and I
Speaker 1: said yeah, I said when he said now, said what
Speaker 1: do you mean now? He said, look outside your window?
Speaker 1: Then he just flew all the own up to Orlando.
Speaker 3: We're not asking me.
Speaker 1: He's ringing the doorbell, that's how. So he comes in
Speaker 1: and we're sitting there and I'm like, I said, the
Speaker 1: boss moved. It was cool. And we're sitting there and
Speaker 1: we're talking about college players and I said, I tell
Speaker 1: you the guy I love kid at Oklahoma State, Tony Allen,
Speaker 1: and the owners started laughing because then he had just
Speaker 1: said that. And then that made me say, oh, man,
Speaker 1: we're connected. That was that's true story. I said, we're
Speaker 1: connected because Tony was yeah.
Speaker 3: It was wold.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is my god man, And I
Speaker 1: was so cool because you know, some teams wouldn't have
Speaker 1: seen that, and I was like, man, we get this dude,
Speaker 1: and it was right. We were right.
Speaker 4: They was like, we need to get him tray Paul
Speaker 4: Piers and we'll be all right.
Speaker 1: I'll give you a credit because in a generation where
Speaker 1: everybody just wanted to leave, Kevin, you two, we had
Speaker 1: to beg you to leave. The best thing you did
Speaker 1: for us is say no, because we ended up with Ray.
Speaker 1: You and you had to say yeah first. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: have worked, but we had to make got trade first
Speaker 1: because you said no. We went to the draft and
Speaker 1: we draft. We ended up trading getting Rey Allen. So
Speaker 1: now we got Ray and Paul, now he want to come.
Speaker 1: Now this guy wanted.
Speaker 4: To now you want to get some cinnamon.
Speaker 1: To come? Yeah, okay, now you want to get some cinnama.
Speaker 3: I got Ray. I was like, it's just.
Speaker 1: Not something like and now you want to get some cinnamon.
Speaker 1: And I didn't think we can get him. And where's
Speaker 1: golfing me and Kevin McHale and Dan mc goffin. I'm
Speaker 1: in the cup with Kevin and we're trying to me
Speaker 1: Danny trying to figure anyway to get Kevin McHale to say, yes,
Speaker 1: we're working. But then Kevin told me, he said, Doc,
Speaker 1: you know what I want. Whoever is the youngest best
Speaker 1: big man in the league. You know that that's all
Speaker 1: I need and we can get that, and we can
Speaker 1: just figure out I was like, oh, we didn't give
Speaker 1: me gard that because we had out and I'm thinking
Speaker 1: that was the best young big man at the time.
Speaker 1: So when he said that, I remember driving the golf
Speaker 1: cart like we getting all three guys. That's what I
Speaker 1: was thinking. I told we're getting him and I said
Speaker 1: just and he was like, who who do we give up?
Speaker 1: He said, tell him to name him. But we had
Speaker 1: a list of guys you couldn't touch, couldn't touch Tony,
Speaker 1: couldn't touch Rondo, Uh, Perk. We needed. We knew exactly
Speaker 1: what we want.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, I asked for those exact guys.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 2: I said, Because whenever I think I said this to you,
Speaker 2: I said, I said this to you too. I said, man,
Speaker 2: I'm looking to play with the team I'm used to
Speaker 2: playing against. And whenever I played against those guys, but
Speaker 2: t Raife p t A Perk, I always felt like
Speaker 2: I got the best team because I watched film. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm watching two three games coming to the game. So
Speaker 2: I was like, man, every time I played Perk, every time.
Speaker 4: I played, got into it. This is what happened.
Speaker 3: They got it so much.
Speaker 4: They did it in the game getting here before and
Speaker 4: I didn't know that was a locker room.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know is that I was like a
Speaker 2: big bro without being a big bro. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: didn't know big fella came out of high school. I
Speaker 2: didn't even know none of this. Right, But in the
Speaker 2: evening with my young fella, right.
Speaker 4: Look, when we traded for him, he called me like
Speaker 4: walking like he's like, what's a big person?
Speaker 1: Thinking I'm thinking ticket, thinking he might have to go.
Speaker 3: Hands with him.
Speaker 1: Because I wanted to get understanding with Himore.
Speaker 2: I came in here and then whatever we had to
Speaker 2: get out the way, let's to get it out the way,
Speaker 2: big fella, because I want you to know I'm a
Speaker 2: different type of teammate.
Speaker 3: That's show, That's what it was. They never played with
Speaker 3: like me. He was like, hold on, a big follow.
Speaker 3: You didn't be I don't give none of that. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about the locker room.
Speaker 2: And I was, man, we're gonna be like and I
Speaker 2: was starting to implement on what we're gonna be like
Speaker 2: now I'm on defense. I talked like this and purpose
Speaker 2: like oh for really, Yeah, he didn't talk how to communicate.
Speaker 1: You know what. My favorite practice was the first practice
Speaker 1: in Rome because y'all got lit up the second year
Speaker 1: that destroyed your.
Speaker 3: Yeah any house.
Speaker 1: And I was funny the two things that happened. Tibbs
Speaker 1: had never you know, I spent some time with Belichick
Speaker 1: and Tony Dunjee that summer and they were, you know,
Speaker 1: the offense and defensive coordinator. I've never done that, and
Speaker 1: so I told Tims you can be the defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, but he didn't know. I meant like, no,
Speaker 1: you do run it so you don't remember this. But
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the practice, Tims start talking. I
Speaker 1: left the gym and Tims is looking around, like where's
Speaker 1: he going? Where's he going? You know, I'm sitting in
Speaker 1: the hallway listening because I just needed y'all to understand
Speaker 1: it's TIB's voice, it's not my voice. And Tim's at
Speaker 1: the present. Bro. You know, Bro, you can't do that.
Speaker 1: Just can't leave the gym, I mean, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, what's so? You know because you started doing
Speaker 1: that all year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Now, when we had shoot around, you would lead
Speaker 4: and Tims and the scout.
Speaker 1: That was on purpose because I was like, Okay, if
Speaker 1: I'm there, y'all gonna look over at me and I
Speaker 1: trying to look at Tims. I thought it was really
Speaker 1: important we.
Speaker 2: Hold over him. We were like, the damn Tims. First
Speaker 2: thing to do is go right into a drill. Okay,
Speaker 2: let me get two guys away, two guys in the bucks.
Speaker 2: We're gonna tell five girl like, man, what the fun
Speaker 2: were looking around? Come on, man, man, you will leave
Speaker 2: and we're starting.
Speaker 4: Ticket used to be this man used to be in.
Speaker 1: There were about ten different times where I was about
Speaker 1: to open the door because I can hear it, and
Speaker 1: then I was like.
Speaker 3: No, no, we ain't doing that. That's true.
Speaker 4: Let's ticket, man, are you son it this way? We're
Speaker 4: gonna run it this wife Tims wouldn't back down. That's
Speaker 4: what the thing.
Speaker 1: That's where I didn't know. I'm like at the door,
Speaker 1: I need to go in. And then the other part
Speaker 1: of that first practice, Paul caught a foul and I
Speaker 1: was roughing and it wasn't a foul, but I wanted
Speaker 1: to see what the second unit would do because usually
Speaker 1: the second units and pose like Post like no, no, no, file,
Speaker 1: it ain't no found in posts. It's a file. Posts
Speaker 1: grabbed the ball and they involved and kept playing and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, we're gonna be good.
Speaker 3: After that first passion, I got back to the joint.
Speaker 2: You know, usually go back to each man. Paul can't
Speaker 2: hit the door. We went downstairs, you know training count.
Speaker 2: You lay down, and we went down to have lunch.
Speaker 3: We shitt.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't really do this on training count,
Speaker 2: but man, sorry, that ship looked at man.
Speaker 3: That shit looked cry that she looked creit.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: He was like, he had a ball hitting. We all
Speaker 3: went ball, went ball.
Speaker 1: Went ball, and then Rondo and the second unit the
Speaker 1: second year. The next day y'all destroyed them. It was
Speaker 1: like it was competitive competitive. You know. One thing you're
Speaker 1: talking about Lebron, You remember Lebron early in his career
Speaker 1: was he was he was a great player, but he
Speaker 1: wasn't a student. Like it's amazing. I think when he
Speaker 1: got traded to Miami, we had an exhibition game and
Speaker 1: Lebron started calling our sets.
Speaker 2: He started calling the sets like Rondo, he's coming up
Speaker 2: to whatever, we're gonna switch this.
Speaker 1: And right when he did that, I don't think it
Speaker 1: was Tips and my Ben Tips.
Speaker 3: No, it was I remember this. I remember I remember
Speaker 3: the situation.
Speaker 1: Whoever was our assistant coach. I turned around said, oh boy,
Speaker 1: we in trouble.
Speaker 2: He was doing he was They was emulating everything we
Speaker 2: was doing. We were doing calling you remember they had
Speaker 2: the big long gash football players thirty one two side twists.
Speaker 1: I was like, and when he started calling our sets out,
Speaker 1: Tony Hill was coming over here he comes fall were switch.
Speaker 1: This was like, Oh my gosh, Lebron, it's become a
Speaker 1: student checked out. And now when you're watch him now,
Speaker 1: it's like he's playing chess and playing it's ridiculous not
Speaker 1: watching him. His brain has evolved to where he's at.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. He didn't always have that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why he's still dominating forever.
Speaker 1: Right now, when you watch I watched it watching him,
Speaker 1: he's moving two steps earlier before they passed it.
Speaker 4: That's crazy. You've never seen nothing like this. Like, I
Speaker 4: don't even care what he's twenty one years in and
Speaker 4: just I'm looking at his movies. I'm thinking, like, by
Speaker 4: the time I got to my fifteenth year, I was like,
Speaker 4: it was it was hit or miss, How its gonna
Speaker 4: feel getting out of bed fifteen? She was hit her
Speaker 4: missing my big toe was gonna work that day? Or
Speaker 4: my ankle or.
Speaker 1: Something with Jim Credie puts it all. He worked and
Speaker 1: you know, energy levels crazy and I hate to go
Speaker 1: uh de bait. You know, I'm a Michael guy. I know,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean anything bad about Lebron. Bron's gonna
Speaker 1: have the greatest career ever. It's no doubt he's gonna
Speaker 1: have a goat career. But as far as for me,
Speaker 1: the single players, Mike, but it doesn't matter that makes
Speaker 1: Lebron bad. I don't know why I feel like you
Speaker 1: say one that means you're putting down the other one.
Speaker 1: They're both amazing.
Speaker 4: We used to be in the locker room and you know,
Speaker 4: the new younger guys they like, man, Lebron's the best
Speaker 4: player ever, Like, don't would tell you that, would for
Speaker 4: show tell you that, But they ain't see you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, black, Mike, And it's always gonna be
Speaker 4: that from generation generation, even when you hear Kareem speak
Speaker 4: or or when Bill Russell used to say that, it's
Speaker 4: just like.
Speaker 1: Thinking Bill Russell exactly. It was a Bill Russell guys.
Speaker 1: You know it's funny with Austin growing up, I was
Speaker 1: Austin like Lebron's you know, and I would send him
Speaker 1: video and I sent him also the bill like two
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and it takes all right there, I get it,
Speaker 1: all right, got it, m J was the best Send
Speaker 1: me back. But it's a fun debate. But I just
Speaker 1: hate that when you do it, people think you're putting
Speaker 1: down one guy the other.
Speaker 2: I think they both transcended the game in a different way. Obviously,
Speaker 2: we've never seen someone have thirty nine thousand points sixty
Speaker 2: six thousand minutes on the goddamn floor.
Speaker 3: We put tim into this game.
Speaker 2: We know when I'm watching the thirty eight year old
Speaker 2: have more energy than twenty ones, twenty two year olds,
Speaker 2: twenty nine year olds. He is arguably the most is
Speaker 2: everything on the floor. So that's what I'm looking at.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in two twenty three watching
Speaker 2: something of the past. I want to be in two
Speaker 2: twenty three watching something of the future. And that's what
Speaker 2: I'm embracing. That the passpening right now. Man, listen, this
Speaker 2: happening Domin.
Speaker 4: You know what the scary thing y'all I think about too,
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, like when Lebron go like, who's gonna
Speaker 4: be that face, who can really carry the torch? Somebody
Speaker 4: went from Jordan and I think in the early two
Speaker 4: thousands it was multiple players. You know, it was Kobe committment,
Speaker 4: committed committee, and then Lebron took over. So so now
Speaker 4: I'm looking like, damn.
Speaker 1: Lebron and Steph. I don't think we give Steph enough
Speaker 1: credit because Steph is as much of a game changer
Speaker 1: as anybody in our lifetime. Like you go to au game, now,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody dunking? Remember you go to a game noway
Speaker 1: and took a jump shot? Everybody was you go to
Speaker 1: the game people, everybody, that's the one dude. We don't
Speaker 1: give him enough credit anybody. He's one of the most
Speaker 1: titles of that group. They're watching him now still and
Speaker 1: Durant now the three oldest players are dominating.
Speaker 4: But see what the kids do. They say, I can
Speaker 4: be Steph because I can't beat Durant because I'm not
Speaker 4: growing the seven feet, i can't beat the Lebron because
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be six eight in buff But kids
Speaker 4: looking say, I can probably be his Steph. You know,
Speaker 4: six two six three and can shoot really well and
Speaker 4: move it out the ball. That's that's it's not realistic really,
Speaker 4: but like they're not gonna be the great, but it's
Speaker 4: more realistic.
Speaker 1: But they ain't gonna put in the time. You know,
Speaker 1: Steph Man, he he's a machine. He works and you know, listen,
Speaker 1: all y'all, it's no think about every team you played on.
Speaker 1: You were the best player on your teams, but you're
Speaker 1: also with the hardest worker on your teamers. That ain't
Speaker 1: a coincidence. Ray Allen was our best shooter, right who
Speaker 1: took the most shots if you counted the entire time
Speaker 1: we were at together, who took more shots than Ray?
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, okay, you want to be a better shooter,
Speaker 1: but the better shooter taking more shots and practice. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a Tiger Woods store. I was golfing with like
Speaker 1: three other professional golfers and I'm not gonna use their name,
Speaker 1: but we're golfing and Tiger Woods was on the range.
Speaker 1: We finished golfing. He's still on the range. Now that's
Speaker 1: where hours later we go eat. Is now a porn
Speaker 1: rain storm, I mean in Orlando and there's no one
Speaker 1: there except for Tigers on the range hitting balls in
Speaker 1: the rain. Because the British Open was in a week
Speaker 1: and a half and he thought it may rain, so
Speaker 1: he had to play through it. I called one of
Speaker 1: the guys, I said, catch you a question. Uh, Tiger
Speaker 1: Woods is the best player, right, it's okay, yeah, by far?
Speaker 1: You know it's the best, maybe the best in history.
Speaker 1: And I said, you think he works out out works
Speaker 1: everybody on tour. He said, yeah, man, he outworks all
Speaker 1: of us. I said, okay, now he's number one. Now
Speaker 1: he's out working you. Now, how can you ever catch him?
Speaker 1: Like when you think about it, When I started thinking
Speaker 1: about that with shooters, with ball handlers like these guys,
Speaker 1: I don't think guys understand how hard it is to
Speaker 1: be great, and everybody wants to be great, and then
Speaker 1: when they get the job, like when the number one
Speaker 1: player's gone for a week or two, they realize, oh
Speaker 1: I want this job. This is hard, you know. So
Speaker 1: it's it still comes down to the work ethic.
Speaker 2: I know you have a love for coaching. I know
Speaker 2: that this break is great. Could you ever see yourself
Speaker 2: in any capacity coaching again?
Speaker 3: On the stuff, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, Kevin. It's got to be the right. They would
Speaker 1: have to be a perfect situation.
Speaker 3: I know one thing I don't mean they won't define perfect.
Speaker 1: Perfect means we have to have eight team in the
Speaker 1: front office. You have to be on the same path.
Speaker 1: I know where not going. Yeah, you can't be. I
Speaker 1: can't me.
Speaker 4: I'm going to see him in San Antonio.
Speaker 1: And pop no, no, no, no, no, no, that's what
Speaker 1: being y'all gonna be developed.
Speaker 4: No, he's gonna be ready to go.
Speaker 1: I think I know where you're going.
Speaker 3: Now, look, bring a team to it. Now, they bring
Speaker 3: a team the mall.
Speaker 1: I'm coaching that.
Speaker 3: Job. Give me the pepper down job, the mail waves.
Speaker 1: We would be unbelievable. But no, it's like it's so
Speaker 1: important for you. You just can't do your job as
Speaker 1: a coaching our NBA. Now if you can't, you know
Speaker 1: what do they say? Culture happens when you turn your
Speaker 1: back when you're not in the room.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: If I can't leave a room and feel good, Yeah,
Speaker 1: then you can't work. And so you have to have
Speaker 1: that and you gotta be on the same page. Man,
Speaker 1: it's too much for you not to be. You want
Speaker 1: to win, you better be, So that would be my answer.
Speaker 1: If not, TV, I'm gonna play a lot of bad
Speaker 1: golf because I talk about golf people. I'm really good.
Speaker 4: We're gonna get out there with We're.
Speaker 3: Gonna get an invitation. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Now that I'm here, y'all get me kicked out of
Speaker 1: a club.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, you wear the right stuff.
Speaker 3: We're the right man.
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm coming with Etniaquette.
Speaker 3: I'm coming. I'm gonna have my whole outfit.
Speaker 2: I may leave my golf game in the car, but
Speaker 2: I'm coming. Happens, whatever happens, we're bringing play best ball
Speaker 2: to I don't want to play all that like my
Speaker 2: ball over here.
Speaker 3: Okay, who got the best Okay, drop right here right here.
Speaker 2: That means that's not that's golf. How we're gonna start
Speaker 2: off start off like this and didn't get good? War
Speaker 2: because Bro think he beating me and I'm bad at
Speaker 2: watch Bro, You're.
Speaker 4: Not bad than that golf. You just bro you that
Speaker 4: that golf text. Man, listen to my ship together from
Speaker 4: the hood.
Speaker 3: You've been going to golf. Believe Lord, I've been going
Speaker 3: to golf.
Speaker 4: Take I got I'm gonna go with Paul and the golf.
Speaker 3: I got it.
Speaker 1: They got the same birthday right now to what I'm
Speaker 1: locked in to.
Speaker 2: What working out locked, locked this man up, man and
Speaker 2: whatever nigga. Like we were saying, see, this is what
Speaker 2: I had to deal with, Like, hey, you don't know
Speaker 2: what I'm doing, this is this is the time out right, man,
Speaker 2: Come on right there, I want right here, right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's what I want to show when I
Speaker 1: came to timeouts. And let's say one time out in
Speaker 1: every game I went to Paul one time, I go
Speaker 1: to Ray one time. What would y'all think when it
Speaker 1: what y'all?
Speaker 3: So let me say this real ship, let me go first.
Speaker 2: At no point did we ever envy who shot it,
Speaker 2: because we had the belief in all three of us as.
Speaker 3: Long as it was all three of us. Real ship.
Speaker 2: A probably posed because Poe's been there, right, But we
Speaker 2: felt the we felt the responsibility to take the big
Speaker 2: shots and make the big decisions, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So if it came from p and I had, you
Speaker 2: had to be ready if it came from me rap
Speaker 2: And that's how I can honestly say we never are
Speaker 2: We never talked about having any issues with who I did.
Speaker 4: I remember God drew up a play one time and
Speaker 4: I had no involvement in it. And you know, I
Speaker 4: didn't make some game winners, but he drew up the
Speaker 4: right play. I remember it was in Philly. I'll never
Speaker 4: forget it. He drew a play for for for a
Speaker 4: law for you.
Speaker 3: I remember the shando and I wasn't if.
Speaker 4: I was like over here in the corner and I
Speaker 4: was just like, I'm not even in the play. But
Speaker 4: it worked, you know when it just like yeah, But
Speaker 4: you know, it was the most satisfaction for me just
Speaker 4: to have those teammates when I used to see you
Speaker 4: make a game winner or or the pressure wasn't on
Speaker 4: me no more like when I see Ray hit hit
Speaker 4: the shots, and it was just like for me to watch.
Speaker 1: That my favorite place. There's a couple of them. One
Speaker 1: was a love for Rondo against Miami.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: One was we ran up. I was at the AU game.
Speaker 4: Yeah maybe the bales man that day. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: taking up the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah I can.
Speaker 4: I can make free throws down a stretch. I can
Speaker 4: make a shot, but I'm taking the ball out.
Speaker 1: Remember the time line, I said, ball, can you make
Speaker 1: this pass? I can make it pass, but you were
Speaker 1: thinking I need the ball. We also ran against Cleveland
Speaker 1: playoff game. I was at the AU game and I
Speaker 1: think it was Austin's and Jeremiah c when Ice cl
Speaker 1: play and then we drew it up in practice. We
Speaker 1: ran it and to scored twice. But we got the
Speaker 1: time out and you said, let's run high school. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, come on, coach, let's run high school.
Speaker 1: And it's two times this happened. I'm telling you all now.
Speaker 1: Uh so I I draw it up, and I remember
Speaker 1: sitting on the bench and this is what we draw up.
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna work. Were running the high school play,
Speaker 1: I actually said, but they wanted to run it, and
Speaker 1: sometimes as a coach, you go with it.
Speaker 3: August he just walked into the layout.
Speaker 1: And then the other one was we scored on the
Speaker 1: three with Ray against Philadelphia the year before and you
Speaker 1: all four, y'all, you run the right y'all said it.
Speaker 1: We're in the time out and I drop another play
Speaker 1: and run this. Let's let's run the same play we
Speaker 1: ran against him last year. I said, we can't run
Speaker 1: the same play that we ran against the team last year.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna work. And all y'all, oh, it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: I came to the time out and that time I was,
Speaker 1: Sam remembered to Sam might big coaching my year. I
Speaker 1: was literally like I wrought to the huddle on TIMS.
Speaker 1: I said, man, this is the dumbest thing I've ever
Speaker 1: done as a coach.
Speaker 3: So what you mean?
Speaker 1: I said, were running the same play, it's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: And Ray was so and it was so wide open.
Speaker 1: And it's funny how the real story the media they
Speaker 1: think we're y'all are celebrating, but y'all.
Speaker 3: Appointing at me.
Speaker 1: We told you who he told you, and y'a was
Speaker 1: so happy to be right.
Speaker 3: That work. You know it didn't work, man.
Speaker 4: You know that's the beauty, Like just like with Doc
Speaker 4: because like we can go into the time out and
Speaker 4: he'll listen to the players, and I think, I think
Speaker 4: that's an involvement of a coach, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: because sometimes you know, the coach gonna do everything, but
Speaker 4: when he listened to us sometimes it's just that's what made.
Speaker 1: That came from y'all listening to me. Listen, y'all let
Speaker 1: me coach, y'all. Yeah, so I had to. If you
Speaker 1: allow a coach to coach you, you're gonna give the
Speaker 1: play everything.
Speaker 4: They beat time out. It beat timeouts, were going to
Speaker 4: the time out and Rondo will dropped the play. He'd
Speaker 4: be like, all, I gotta play doctor and Rondo of
Speaker 4: a drop a play and Doc.
Speaker 1: Is the only player with CP a little bit. But
Speaker 1: Ron was the only guy. Remember had play ship. Yeah
Speaker 1: he's the only guy. But do two play sheets and
Speaker 1: I would get run the one before the game. And
Speaker 1: it was amazing. Man, that dude is the smartest, best
Speaker 1: his brain. Yeah, he was coming to time out and
Speaker 1: I'm like, fifty two twists. He's already doing it with
Speaker 1: his mouth. He knows what we're running.
Speaker 4: He was hard players, but the other team plays you shocked.
Speaker 3: He's not in coaching, he will be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just too smart. Now he ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: the most patient coach because he's still when I first
Speaker 1: came in, that's what you learned, coach patients and big picture.
Speaker 1: You got to still in the big picture. Like you know,
Speaker 1: the other night, New Orleans get blown out. You know
Speaker 1: that's a game. You say, all right, guys, go to
Speaker 1: the restaurant, go have a good time to night in Vegas.
Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow. And then there's times when you're
Speaker 1: winning which you always notice. That's what I was on
Speaker 1: mind when we lost. I was not off well, we
Speaker 1: start winning too much. That's when I got rough because
Speaker 1: I can feel y'all walking around with your shades on.
Speaker 1: Here we're about to go to a bad place. And
Speaker 1: that's when I got on y'all. Yeah, so y'all, I
Speaker 1: love it. I used to love when you actually gave
Speaker 1: us a chance. We would come and Doc was sit
Speaker 1: right here. We wouldn't even say nothing, and this all
Speaker 1: five of us will.
Speaker 3: Be in the uproar.
Speaker 2: We'd be aregon, commensating with whatever, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 3: They didn't. He like, you're okay, y'all finished, y'all done, okay, cool,
Speaker 3: just what we're doing.
Speaker 2: That was to me, that was that was that was
Speaker 2: the icing on the cake, because we had to be
Speaker 2: able to interact the deal and each other allowed that.
Speaker 3: He allowed us to be us.
Speaker 2: We didn't have to be someone else, and every guy
Speaker 2: in this and in this was himself. I didn't feel
Speaker 2: like I was getting another form of t A. I
Speaker 2: thought that I was another form of baby or another
Speaker 2: form of dog. I felt like all of us was
Speaker 2: who we are and we were. He allowed you to
Speaker 2: be yourself.
Speaker 1: I remember one in Indiana.
Speaker 3: That probably been the roughest night of all of it.
Speaker 1: That was, it's the game and you and Brandon Bass
Speaker 1: about to fight. I'm sitting there, Kevin is yelling me,
Speaker 1: you were get involved, you were get involved, and I'm trying.
Speaker 2: I was trying to have the coaches stay out of it,
Speaker 2: and we were trying to resolute.
Speaker 3: And then the locker room just went But I.
Speaker 1: Sat there and I waited, and then ray and Paul
Speaker 1: I mean Raying run will start getting into it. But
Speaker 1: I got to do the media. So y'all don't even
Speaker 1: know this. So y'all arguing, but I got to go
Speaker 1: out and do the meetings outside the door. When I
Speaker 1: so remember i left the room. I could hear you
Speaker 1: still fighting and arguing. And I walk out to the
Speaker 1: media and I said, listen to her.
Speaker 3: We won this game.
Speaker 1: We're in there fighting. And I walked out to the
Speaker 1: media and I said, listen to her. Guys best celebrating,
Speaker 1: I said, And I said, this is the most wonderful
Speaker 1: team you know, and they're in there fighting. Get it.
Speaker 3: We're just about to be the.
Speaker 1: So I actually said, I'm not gonna let you in
Speaker 1: right away. I'm gonna go back in and celebrate with
Speaker 1: the guys, and I had to go back in and
Speaker 1: break up the fights. And the media never found out.
Speaker 1: No one ever found out, and it got squashed. But
Speaker 1: you know those things that that's part of families. It
Speaker 1: really is. Man As a coach, I've had some crazy
Speaker 1: I gotta change the names. I'm gonna have to Beau.
Speaker 1: The coach takes it the hardest. Y'all don't realize that
Speaker 1: because you always think like I got y'all to play
Speaker 1: together and work together. But when you can't get two
Speaker 1: to work together, you can't win, and people don't understand
Speaker 1: that you can be as good as you want. Always
Speaker 1: look back on the Clippers team, if we had had cooperation,
Speaker 1: we had it the first year we just lost all right,
Speaker 1: But then you didn't happen anymore with each other, not
Speaker 1: just with coach player player. If you think you're gonna
Speaker 1: win without that, isn't that with the one thing y'all
Speaker 1: learned more than anything, like you can't win without. And
Speaker 1: for me as a coach, I don't understand why players
Speaker 1: can't see it, like you gotta get along, you gotta
Speaker 1: get up.
Speaker 4: You got when I got to the Clippers. That's when
Speaker 4: I saw the changing dynamic of the league because I
Speaker 4: got there and me coming from where I came from
Speaker 4: with the subjects how we was all together. And I
Speaker 4: remember our first I'll never forget our first role game.
Speaker 4: And we had breakfast and so I go into the
Speaker 4: breakfast room and everybody's sitting at different tables and I
Speaker 4: was looking like, what.
Speaker 1: You mean, I mean you might have CP over here,
Speaker 1: Blake over here. I mean, it was like so spread out.
Speaker 4: I never seen nothing like it.
Speaker 3: To wear us.
Speaker 4: We gonna come and say that one or two tables
Speaker 4: and talk about what we did last night or the
Speaker 4: facts of the day.
Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna conversation what we gotta do tonight.
Speaker 1: Also, if you had a function, yeah, everybody, everybody. We
Speaker 1: had team dinners that I threw everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it was just it was hard, dude.
Speaker 4: I seen I seen it for the first time and
Speaker 4: I was like, I ain't used to this, you know.
Speaker 4: And then they hurd around side. I said, I brought
Speaker 4: everybody in at the table when I was like, y'all
Speaker 4: got to be together, sit together, you know. Chris Chris
Speaker 4: Paul had a charity event and it was only like
Speaker 4: two of his teammates there, and I looked like I've
Speaker 4: never seen it. I went off the next day and
Speaker 4: like that if you have something you had to you
Speaker 4: had to say that. You have to say it over
Speaker 4: and over, and we never had. And I was like,
Speaker 4: this is time for me to retire.
Speaker 1: Say I got the Philly same stuff, you know, And
Speaker 1: and that's where, like, you know, we get into ourselves.
Speaker 1: I'm busy. I remember one of the places. Man, I'm busy.
Speaker 1: I got that's like, is it too want to go?
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go?
Speaker 4: Do you think I want to?
Speaker 1: You know, Kevin and Paul having a big bowling You
Speaker 1: think I want to go bowling on Thursday night? No,
Speaker 1: but they're having it, and so it's part of sacrifice
Speaker 1: you go. And that's what you know. Being in the
Speaker 1: uh you know with my daughter uh marri up, you
Speaker 1: kind of hear Steph and then talk about that's what
Speaker 1: they have. It's Steph so something. Everybody's there, jerremand does something. Everybody.
Speaker 1: Those are the teams that win. It's no point indent
Speaker 1: like when is not an accident. It's either either you
Speaker 1: buy in or you're not. You'll be good, You'll win
Speaker 1: a lot of games, but you ain't gonna be the winner.
Speaker 1: I love it, man, you like this year. I'm about
Speaker 1: to say who. I don't know who you got to
Speaker 1: win it? I don't know right now, I really don't.
Speaker 1: I think Boston in Milwaukee. I think Philly is a sleeper.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: They are because Joel is he is people. I mean,
Speaker 1: I coach him. He is. He's as good as I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. They're dangerous. And then there's always another team, Miami.
Speaker 1: Miami is always there. In Indiana, you better be careful.
Speaker 1: I would like Indiana you should beat in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: but I would not want to play them in the
Speaker 1: play Orlando and they're deep, deep. And that was about
Speaker 1: to say one thing I about these young teams Indiana
Speaker 1: in Orlando, they got dogs. Okay, okay, see in the West, Shay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I was part of it.
Speaker 4: What you think about that?
Speaker 3: You don't become Shade.
Speaker 1: If he stay on the Clippers, he.
Speaker 3: Does, he does, he does.
Speaker 1: That's Sam. You can ask Sam. When we did the trade.
Speaker 1: I told Sam, I said, man, I know we gotta
Speaker 1: do this trade, but but Shay is gonna be a superstar.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Oh, you can see it early, you can. Superstar had
Speaker 1: a great rookie year. And the other thing he has
Speaker 1: is character. He's a high character kid. He works, he
Speaker 1: wants to be coached, he wants like, he invites coaching,
Speaker 1: and he's gotta like people get Shay wrong. Shae's a
Speaker 1: dog like. He's got this nice, you know, demeanor, but
Speaker 1: he is a dog like. He wants a tear, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't smiling. Then say wants to rip you up
Speaker 1: and you can see it. But now when I look back,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, the six first round picks. Damn, holy goodness.
Speaker 3: Wow are you are you worried about Golden State? Any doc?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I am. You know, it's just like us towards
Speaker 1: the end, you gotta break this up. But they still could.
Speaker 1: They may make her twenty ten run. You know, I
Speaker 1: know one thing. Do you want to play go stand
Speaker 1: in the playoffs? No? No?
Speaker 3: And guess what No.
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson going through probably arguably his worst time, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I really believe this.
Speaker 3: You do not stay in this way for too long
Speaker 3: and at some point you come.
Speaker 1: Out of it.
Speaker 3: I'm about like you.
Speaker 2: They are one of them wounded animals that you don't
Speaker 2: want to see and I think they're gonna be better
Speaker 2: the second.
Speaker 1: Half of Clay Draymond is stilled. Draymon, Steph is still Steph.
Speaker 1: Wiggy is better. All right, Clay is not going to
Speaker 1: be the Clay that he was because of injury. Still
Speaker 1: shoot the hell out of the ball and he'll find
Speaker 1: his rhythm there. You know, they may need one more guy,
Speaker 1: and I don't know who that's gonna be. But man,
Speaker 1: I would not want to play them in a seven
Speaker 1: game series. They're gonna be if I'm a young team,
Speaker 1: I don't want to play that. No, no, No, Phoenix
Speaker 1: is the team though, man Like they're they're built to win.
Speaker 1: They just haven't looked good yet, you know, but they're
Speaker 1: but they've had injury. You know, the book gets hurt
Speaker 1: because of his style. Books are physical and then Bradley
Speaker 1: ain't played yet and I'm worried about his back. So
Speaker 1: h But when you think about that, and then you
Speaker 1: have Gordon coming off the bench, and they're they're built
Speaker 1: to win. So if they get it right, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be tough. But at the end of the day, still
Speaker 1: got to deal with that dude in Denver. He's the
Speaker 1: best player, right now, yeah, because he just does everything.
Speaker 1: Joel is the best score Like for Joker, Joel is
Speaker 1: the only guy that can stop Joel from school. You
Speaker 1: can't stop you know he is. He can do everything.
Speaker 1: But but the Joker man, it just makes everybody better.
Speaker 1: They run, they run, the offense, just throw him the ball,
Speaker 1: you know. Austin we laugh awesome to this day, says
Speaker 1: he ruined the worst pass in the history of the game.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: He said he was cutting through, just talking through. The
Speaker 1: ball came and he caught it. But he's on the
Speaker 1: room he hit it, and he said he watched the
Speaker 1: highlights how he saw it where he sees I was
Speaker 1: talking to Bruce to day, he was like, man, it's
Speaker 1: nothing like it. And that's what makes him so good.
Speaker 4: He's one of the most dominant selfless players that ever ever,
Speaker 4: Like you don't see a big g be so selfless
Speaker 4: but still so dominanting.
Speaker 1: We am talking about like the West is gonna be
Speaker 1: the West playoffs just gonna be crazy. It's gonna come
Speaker 1: down the matchups. People don't.
Speaker 4: I think there's no clear favorite. I think the style
Speaker 4: is gonna make the fight. They have to play them
Speaker 4: or they have to play them.
Speaker 1: That's going to do. There's certain teams that are maybe
Speaker 1: the best team, but they can Clippers.
Speaker 4: Clippers are playing better.
Speaker 3: I said.
Speaker 1: That all yeah, the Clippers, Uh, they're just so talented
Speaker 1: they are wild card. H I agree with that with
Speaker 1: the Clippers if they figured that little thing out. Because
Speaker 1: still Kawi people sleep on him.
Speaker 4: I feel like Paul George is taking the lead. He
Speaker 4: has scoring for sure. And then James.
Speaker 1: What James has added to them is now they have
Speaker 1: Zoo browling, so they have a pick and roll James.
Speaker 4: If you roll, you can get decisions.
Speaker 1: The question will be will he feel enough for them
Speaker 1: to win because last year the Clippers were a defensive
Speaker 1: team in a lot of ways.
Speaker 4: In a finals picks, Finals picks, who you got?
Speaker 1: I got?
Speaker 4: I got Celtics versus Phoenix?
Speaker 3: Who you got?
Speaker 1: You's tough. I'm between Celtics and Boston and the Milwaukee
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure I'm gonna go with the Celtics.
Speaker 1: But that's a tight one. It's it's uh. And then
Speaker 1: I got I got Denver coming back. They do miss Brown.
Speaker 1: They missed both of those guys.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like they're like there're be there are
Speaker 4: champs but they're being slept on.
Speaker 1: But they were slept on last year. Yeah, and Murray
Speaker 1: has been out. I just got back.
Speaker 4: But I don't feel like that. You know, in the past,
Speaker 4: you're like, all right, the team that wanted that next year,
Speaker 4: you're like they I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were better than next year. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I feel like. He didn't get hurt. I think we're
Speaker 1: twenty six and three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the other day, Yeah, we're we're we're down.
Speaker 4: There's a couple of teams that the next year that
Speaker 4: the year we should have went to and then the
Speaker 4: year we asked Shaq that that's start.
Speaker 1: You know, people forget like that's we I think we
Speaker 1: were like fifteen and one. In the game Ship played in.
Speaker 1: He was just too old, couldn't play anywhere.
Speaker 3: His presence alone was yeah, oh man, he was good.
Speaker 1: And I remember the one practice where you put Jack
Speaker 1: Shack one of the change coverages and Kevin says, is, Shaq,
Speaker 1: this is what we do.
Speaker 3: He got what we do. We got right.
Speaker 1: We ain't change it. Remember, give shack Shack was like
Speaker 1: That's what I knew. He was on board because he
Speaker 1: was like, OK, we're gonna do it this way, this way.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny about Shaq. I haven't been around
Speaker 1: Shack my whole life. Right coached against him, played against
Speaker 1: the one game. I never knew that this is a
Speaker 1: crazy state. I never knew how big he was because
Speaker 1: I've never around him. And you remember, he wanted to
Speaker 1: play with us. So he said, hey, coach, O, can
Speaker 1: I drive over your house? It was in Orlando. I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: going over the house, let's talk. He pulls in the
Speaker 1: in the semi truck, which I made him park on
Speaker 1: the street. I said, they ain't bring that big thing
Speaker 1: in my driveway, ripped my driveway up. He's a purpose thing,
Speaker 1: no Superman logo. But then he gets out and I
Speaker 1: opened the door and I'm looking at him Shot and
Speaker 1: I'm like, Ship is a big dude, you know, like
Speaker 1: you forget trust me? I do I know because you
Speaker 1: have to play.
Speaker 4: Because when we sat on the bench, Sho sit with
Speaker 4: don't see we all here like.
Speaker 1: Slide down man. If Shot is he just couldn't stay healthy.
Speaker 1: But if he could have stayed healthy, damn, which tells
Speaker 1: you how good.
Speaker 2: He was because he was his presence, like yeah, thanks
Speaker 2: for coming through.
Speaker 1: Was awesome, awesome, by the time, you'll have me on
Speaker 1: y'all show. I'm like, y'all got Tony Allen on the show,
Speaker 1: Rondo on the show, was Edy House on the show.
Speaker 1: Now you can have Eddie on.
Speaker 3: He got two sons coming out. Boys. I've been watching
Speaker 3: this wasting good fan Yeah.
Speaker 1: They really. I love watching all y'all coaching now, it's hilarious.
Speaker 1: I love watch watching everybody games. You know, the craziest
Speaker 1: moment of the team when I thought you're gonna get hurt.
Speaker 1: I swear you're gonna get hurt. When you were gonna
Speaker 1: arm wrestle Big Baby. Listen, that was nuts.
Speaker 3: I believe Big Baby, my dog, the only one who
Speaker 3: believed in me.
Speaker 1: Right here.
Speaker 4: You know, look, I think you get hurt no wrestling,
Speaker 4: I said, bet, I'm the only one that bet with him.
Speaker 1: But you didn't believe that.
Speaker 3: No I did.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what so this one. So this is
Speaker 2: what you're looking So this what you don't that is
Speaker 2: not stronger than the baby. I'm not saying this. We will,
Speaker 2: we will, we will.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: We would go to the weight room in the morning.
Speaker 2: In the morning, you used to be the jungle and
Speaker 2: we watched Big Baby and Leon pold one thirties twenty five.
Speaker 2: I take my little one fifteens and I'm like, okay, man,
Speaker 2: the guys a ticket growing it gets And that's what
Speaker 2: rum me. When I saw how everybody jumped over, I
Speaker 2: was like a word.
Speaker 1: He was the funniest thing. I was in the front
Speaker 1: and Randell came and got me. Y'all never knew that coach, Coach,
Speaker 1: you may get back to. I said, for what Kevin
Speaker 1: the big baby about to have him. I'm russell, Kevin
Speaker 1: will get hurt, coach. And when I was sawing, I'm like,
Speaker 1: this dude's gonna get hurt. I thought big Baby would
Speaker 1: just go And I tell you I used that a
Speaker 1: speeches now about will really, because there's no reason big
Speaker 1: Baby shouldn't win. That Kevin starts staring.
Speaker 3: At I told you doubt earlier. He's we slapped.
Speaker 4: I selected you don't even know it stayed right here, listen,
Speaker 4: it's not right for about five minutes, yes, and then
Speaker 4: he waited till.
Speaker 3: Baby got tired. You know, none of this, big fellow,
Speaker 3: Big fella, just say what you want.
Speaker 1: It was amazing.
Speaker 3: All ship were moving, big fella, all ship, big fella.
Speaker 1: This movie, he's wating ritching.
Speaker 3: I'm like, let's go. This was uh.
Speaker 1: We're having a team meeting and Joel as Sam can say,
Speaker 1: what was the biggest athletic feat you ever seen? It's oh, no,
Speaker 1: that's easy. And I'm thinking he's gonna say, donc He said,
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett, big big baby in ar wrastl And I
Speaker 1: was like what, And then I thought about it. He
Speaker 1: said it was impossible. But when you see you.
Speaker 4: See the hands together because big Baby got this big.
Speaker 2: Old hand, big we shlopped like this. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: we ain't got no shirt on. We sweat.
Speaker 3: It was some gorilla ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We turned the plane into a zoo.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Danny came out to talking with me about it. I said, listen,
Speaker 1: the media is in the locker room, so they never
Speaker 1: get a time to ourselves, to themselves. So I said,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let them play music. I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: them turn the wild Zone or whatever. So I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna let them turn up the plane into nutty was.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 3: Card It was the Junker, but then we lockey. That's oh,
Speaker 3: I got I gonna go work man.
Speaker 4: I gotta about man with you today.
Speaker 3: Thank y'all. Man, it's been perfect with that