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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of defining moment with us

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Speaker 1: you know, we went on. We got the duck boat,

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Speaker 1: which Kevin was like, what are we doing on a duck?

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Speaker 1: But what are we doing? A duck's a duck boat.

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Speaker 1: exact parade route that we're gonna go on if we wanted,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted them to envision it. Uh. But then

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Speaker 1: the boat got quiet. It was just us. But and

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Speaker 1: I said, listen, y'all gotta sacrifice. Y'all gotta give up this.

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Speaker 1: Y'all gotta give up this. Y'all gotta trust me, You

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Speaker 1: and y'all all everyone you rate. That wasn't even a

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Speaker 1: my room in room and I've done I've been researching

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Speaker 1: And I remember a big Baby would tell you. I

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Speaker 1: I gave them a stack. And I don't know why

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Speaker 1: I didn't check. That was stupid of me. Uh. They

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Speaker 1: they came that morning. That presentation was amazing. It was

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Speaker 4: But there realizes Big Baby majored in drama in theater.

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Speaker 1: But he presented it. He was sweating, he was teary eyed. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And that was from Big Baby and Leon Poe. Am

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Speaker 1: missing somebody else. But it was awesome. And I thought

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Speaker 3: We might need to go back to Rome. Just three

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Speaker 4: I'm all four with it.

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Speaker 3: Y'all know what it is is taking the truth. Man.

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Speaker 3: We got the great Doc Rivers.

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Speaker 1: They didn't say that when I coached him. But now

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Speaker 3: It's always like that, right, How you.

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Speaker 1: Doing, man, I've been great, man, it's been it's been

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Speaker 1: How is it? You know he's doing TV now. It's great.

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Speaker 1: TV is great? You know what's funny. Before I coach,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say you coached me hard, coach hard?

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Speaker 1: You coached me hard. Yeah we had some days. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but I bet you that has something to.

431
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: Do with it, I think. And I don't know either,

432
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: but I think you're one hundred percent right. You know

433
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And you know what I've always learned.

434
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: You guys know this when you don't hear a lot

435
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 1: of comments on the team, you know they didn't everybody

436
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,959
Speaker 1: on the outside thought it was awful.

437
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: You didn't have one player or upstairs nothing, So you.

438
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: Knew there was something in there because I saw what us.

439
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 4: But it's just because we kind of controller within ours

440
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 4: didn't get out of control. I feel like, and I

441
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 4: was like, I know, that's the first thing that.

442
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: We had fights. There was stuff. That's what people like.

443
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: That's the difference to now everything is seen, everything is

444
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: known last night, then the in the Milwaukee game. After

445
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: the game, one of the players went off and it

446
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: was reported ten minutes after that that's how is that

447
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: possible that that's that that can't get out. It's okay

448
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: to have those conversations. We've had off, had heated conversations.

449
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: It's part of growing, uh. But it's got to stay

450
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: in house, and it's not staying in house with a

451
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: lot of teams.

452
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 4: That's one of the differences right there. That changed from

453
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 4: our error to now. We always our stuff stayed in house.

454
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 4: You always preached that, like nothing to leave here. Boy,

455
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 4: We're gonna keep everything, handle everything in But now it's

456
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 4: that's not the but.

457
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 1: But things stay in house in Miami, things stay in

458
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: house in San Antonio State. That was the first time

459
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: that ever got out. Yeah, So you still got to

460
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: protect your culture. And that's that's where I think if

461
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: I struggled the most h once I left Boston. You know,

462
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: I went to the Clippers trying to create a culture,

463
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: went to Clippers, and that's why you realize how important

464
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: like everybody employees. That's the first time, you know, I

465
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: was always just the coach, and then I got the

466
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: Clippers and I was trying to do everything, and you

467
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: realize all those employees are underpaid, so they again loyalty

468
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: for what you know, they're quitting the manager Pete Right,

469
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: I've been there for thirty years making fifty The average

470
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: is like, he's been there. Let me think about that.

471
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: And so when you come in and you're talking to

472
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: your employees, by we got a whole buy in, and

473
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: they're like, for what I'm getting. Everybody's getting fired all

474
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: the time with this organization. So you know, other than

475
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: winning the championship, that was my biggest success is changing

476
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: the culture with that group. And it took a long time,

477
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: and you wasted you had to, You wasted a lot

478
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: of equity trying to do it, but it was it.

479
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 2: Was worth it, so worth it. I just wondered, Man,

480
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 2: would you ever go into ownership whichever.

481
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: I'd love to love to. I just need you to

482
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: buy the team.

483
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: I think there's one coming out here in Vegas.

484
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, Vegas, I was coming up your front office ownership.

485
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: I you know, the one thing I did that you

486
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: can't be a coach and a front of I did

487
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: that for a year. That's a headache, right, you know,

488
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: Lawrence rank Lass To this day, it was it was

489
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: like game twenty and we're sitting on the bench doing

490
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: the game and I turned to him and said, this

491
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: is your last year coaching. And he's like, what I said,

492
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 1: You're gonna be a GM next year.

493
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 4: I'm done with this because he's.

494
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: Doing the game it was and he was like, what

495
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: are you? I said, no, this is it? This is nuts.

496
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: I mean you're watching college guys talking to it's you know,

497
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, people used to do it.

498
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: Matt Riley did it, and Red did it, but the

499
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: league's gotten too big to staffs are too big.

500
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 3: So you know what, I don't understand that too big,

501
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: too big.

502
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

503
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 4: Understand the role of the general manager anymore after because

504
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: you got the general manager and then you got the president.

505
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: So what's the role of the general Well, it depends

506
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: on the group. You know. To be a great organization,

507
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: there has to be a team. Danny and I like,

508
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: you can go into Danny and say something about me

509
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: without me not knowing. You know, Danny wasn't gonna tell

510
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: Paul I'll do this and then come to me into Danny.

511
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: When somebody came to Danny there, Oftentimes you just bring

512
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: you let's go on down, Let's go sit with Doc.

513
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: The other thing with Danny and Danny, I had some

514
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: drag out arguments, then we go to dinner. We were

515
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: always we covered for each other. When Danny made a

516
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: bad draft pick, you never read that Doc wanted somebody else.

517
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: Or when I said let's go with this guy, you

518
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: never read that Danny wanted somebody else. I mean, Ronald

519
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: was a great example. So Danny came in to me

520
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: even for the year before the season, Hey, I want

521
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: you to look at this tape with Rondo. And I

522
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: looked at her. He can't play. This guy can't play.

523
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking at. When I first saw Rondo,

524
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: and then I kept looking and I said, man, this

525
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: dude can he can? You know you start seeing it.

526
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: Then I called all the coaches at Kentucky. The report

527
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: wasn't very good, you know Rondo. So I'm worried, and

528
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: Danny said, hey, you trust me. Yeah, we got it.

529
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: And two days in the cameras, oh man, we got

530
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: to steal. I mean, but no one knew that. Danny

531
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: never said, hey, I always wanted them, you know, you know,

532
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: and Tony's in the room, so I'm gonna bring this up.

533
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: I was going to turn down the celt job because

534
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: I just left Orlando. I wanted the year and Danny

535
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: calls me and said, hey, can we talk and I

536
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: said yeah, I said when he said now, said what

537
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: do you mean now? He said, look outside your window?

538
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: Then he just flew all the own up to Orlando.

539
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 3: We're not asking me.

540
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: He's ringing the doorbell, that's how. So he comes in

541
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: and we're sitting there and I'm like, I said, the

542
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: boss moved. It was cool. And we're sitting there and

543
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: we're talking about college players and I said, I tell

544
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: you the guy I love kid at Oklahoma State, Tony Allen,

545
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: and the owners started laughing because then he had just

546
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: said that. And then that made me say, oh, man,

547
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: we're connected. That was that's true story. I said, we're

548
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: connected because Tony was yeah.

549
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: It was wold.

550
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: I was like, this is my god man, And I

551
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: was so cool because you know, some teams wouldn't have

552
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: seen that, and I was like, man, we get this dude,

553
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: and it was right. We were right.

554
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 4: They was like, we need to get him tray Paul

555
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: Piers and we'll be all right.

556
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: I'll give you a credit because in a generation where

557
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: everybody just wanted to leave, Kevin, you two, we had

558
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: to beg you to leave. The best thing you did

559
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: for us is say no, because we ended up with Ray.

560
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: You and you had to say yeah first. It wouldn't

561
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: have worked, but we had to make got trade first

562
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: because you said no. We went to the draft and

563
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: we draft. We ended up trading getting Rey Allen. So

564
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: now we got Ray and Paul, now he want to come.

565
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: Now this guy wanted.

566
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 4: To now you want to get some cinnamon.

567
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: To come? Yeah, okay, now you want to get some cinnama.

568
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: I got Ray. I was like, it's just.

569
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: Not something like and now you want to get some cinnamon.

570
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: And I didn't think we can get him. And where's

571
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: golfing me and Kevin McHale and Dan mc goffin. I'm

572
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: in the cup with Kevin and we're trying to me

573
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: Danny trying to figure anyway to get Kevin McHale to say, yes,

574
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 1: we're working. But then Kevin told me, he said, Doc,

575
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: you know what I want. Whoever is the youngest best

576
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: big man in the league. You know that that's all

577
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: I need and we can get that, and we can

578
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: just figure out I was like, oh, we didn't give

579
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: me gard that because we had out and I'm thinking

580
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: that was the best young big man at the time.

581
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: So when he said that, I remember driving the golf

582
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: cart like we getting all three guys. That's what I

583
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: was thinking. I told we're getting him and I said

584
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: just and he was like, who who do we give up?

585
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: He said, tell him to name him. But we had

586
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: a list of guys you couldn't touch, couldn't touch Tony,

587
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: couldn't touch Rondo, Uh, Perk. We needed. We knew exactly

588
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: what we want.

589
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: It's crazy, I asked for those exact guys.

590
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: Is that right?

591
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: I said, Because whenever I think I said this to you,

592
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: I said, I said this to you too. I said, man,

593
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: I'm looking to play with the team I'm used to

594
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: playing against. And whenever I played against those guys, but

595
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: t Raife p t A Perk, I always felt like

596
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: I got the best team because I watched film. You know,

597
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: I'm watching two three games coming to the game. So

598
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: I was like, man, every time I played Perk, every time.

599
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: I played, got into it. This is what happened.

600
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: They got it so much.

601
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: They did it in the game getting here before and

602
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 4: I didn't know that was a locker room.

603
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: And I didn't know is that I was like a

604
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: big bro without being a big bro. Yeah, and I

605
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: didn't know big fella came out of high school. I

606
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: didn't even know none of this. Right, But in the

607
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: evening with my young fella, right.

608
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: Look, when we traded for him, he called me like

609
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 4: walking like he's like, what's a big person?

610
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: Thinking I'm thinking ticket, thinking he might have to go.

611
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: Hands with him.

612
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: Because I wanted to get understanding with Himore.

613
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: I came in here and then whatever we had to

614
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: get out the way, let's to get it out the way,

615
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: big fella, because I want you to know I'm a

616
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: different type of teammate.

617
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: That's show, That's what it was. They never played with

618
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: like me. He was like, hold on, a big follow.

619
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: You didn't be I don't give none of that. I'm

620
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: talking about the locker room.

621
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: And I was, man, we're gonna be like and I

622
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: was starting to implement on what we're gonna be like

623
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: now I'm on defense. I talked like this and purpose

624
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: like oh for really, Yeah, he didn't talk how to communicate.

625
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: You know what. My favorite practice was the first practice

626
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: in Rome because y'all got lit up the second year

627
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: that destroyed your.

628
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah any house.

629
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: And I was funny the two things that happened. Tibbs

630
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: had never you know, I spent some time with Belichick

631
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: and Tony Dunjee that summer and they were, you know,

632
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: the offense and defensive coordinator. I've never done that, and

633
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: so I told Tims you can be the defensive coordinator

634
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, but he didn't know. I meant like, no,

635
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: you do run it so you don't remember this. But

636
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the practice, Tims start talking. I

637
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: left the gym and Tims is looking around, like where's

638
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: he going? Where's he going? You know, I'm sitting in

639
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: the hallway listening because I just needed y'all to understand

640
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: it's TIB's voice, it's not my voice. And Tim's at

641
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: the present. Bro. You know, Bro, you can't do that.

642
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: Just can't leave the gym, I mean, and I was like,

643
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, what's so? You know because you started doing

644
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: that all year.

645
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Now, when we had shoot around, you would lead

646
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 4: and Tims and the scout.

647
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: That was on purpose because I was like, Okay, if

648
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm there, y'all gonna look over at me and I

649
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: trying to look at Tims. I thought it was really

650
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: important we.

651
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: Hold over him. We were like, the damn Tims. First

652
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: thing to do is go right into a drill. Okay,

653
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: let me get two guys away, two guys in the bucks.

654
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna tell five girl like, man, what the fun

655
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: were looking around? Come on, man, man, you will leave

656
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: and we're starting.

657
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: Ticket used to be this man used to be in.

658
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: There were about ten different times where I was about

659
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: to open the door because I can hear it, and

660
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: then I was like.

661
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: No, no, we ain't doing that. That's true.

662
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: Let's ticket, man, are you son it this way? We're

663
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: gonna run it this wife Tims wouldn't back down. That's

664
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: what the thing.

665
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: That's where I didn't know. I'm like at the door,

666
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: I need to go in. And then the other part

667
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: of that first practice, Paul caught a foul and I

668
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 1: was roughing and it wasn't a foul, but I wanted

669
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: to see what the second unit would do because usually

670
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: the second units and pose like Post like no, no, no, file,

671
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: it ain't no found in posts. It's a file. Posts

672
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: grabbed the ball and they involved and kept playing and

673
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, we're gonna be good.

674
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 3: After that first passion, I got back to the joint.

675
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: You know, usually go back to each man. Paul can't

676
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: hit the door. We went downstairs, you know training count.

677
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: You lay down, and we went down to have lunch.

678
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: We shitt.

679
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't really do this on training count,

680
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: but man, sorry, that ship looked at man.

681
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: That shit looked cry that she looked creit.

682
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: Man.

683
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: He was like, he had a ball hitting. We all

684
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: went ball, went ball.

685
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: Went ball, and then Rondo and the second unit the

686
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: second year. The next day y'all destroyed them. It was

687
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: like it was competitive competitive. You know. One thing you're

688
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: talking about Lebron, You remember Lebron early in his career

689
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: was he was he was a great player, but he

690
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: wasn't a student. Like it's amazing. I think when he

691
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: got traded to Miami, we had an exhibition game and

692
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: Lebron started calling our sets.

693
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: He started calling the sets like Rondo, he's coming up

694
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: to whatever, we're gonna switch this.

695
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: And right when he did that, I don't think it

696
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: was Tips and my Ben Tips.

697
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: No, it was I remember this. I remember I remember

698
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 3: the situation.

699
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: Whoever was our assistant coach. I turned around said, oh boy,

700
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: we in trouble.

701
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: He was doing he was They was emulating everything we

702
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: was doing. We were doing calling you remember they had

703
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: the big long gash football players thirty one two side twists.

704
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: I was like, and when he started calling our sets out,

705
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: Tony Hill was coming over here he comes fall were switch.

706
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: This was like, Oh my gosh, Lebron, it's become a

707
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: student checked out. And now when you're watch him now,

708
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: it's like he's playing chess and playing it's ridiculous not

709
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: watching him. His brain has evolved to where he's at.

710
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: It's amazing. He didn't always have that.

711
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why he's still dominating forever.

712
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: Right now, when you watch I watched it watching him,

713
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: he's moving two steps earlier before they passed it.

714
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 4: That's crazy. You've never seen nothing like this. Like, I

715
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 4: don't even care what he's twenty one years in and

716
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 4: just I'm looking at his movies. I'm thinking, like, by

717
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: the time I got to my fifteenth year, I was like,

718
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 4: it was it was hit or miss, How its gonna

719
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 4: feel getting out of bed fifteen? She was hit her

720
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: missing my big toe was gonna work that day? Or

721
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 4: my ankle or.

722
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: Something with Jim Credie puts it all. He worked and

723
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, energy levels crazy and I hate to go

724
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: uh de bait. You know, I'm a Michael guy. I know,

725
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean anything bad about Lebron. Bron's gonna

726
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: have the greatest career ever. It's no doubt he's gonna

727
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: have a goat career. But as far as for me,

728
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: the single players, Mike, but it doesn't matter that makes

729
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: Lebron bad. I don't know why I feel like you

730
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: say one that means you're putting down the other one.

731
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: They're both amazing.

732
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: We used to be in the locker room and you know,

733
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 4: the new younger guys they like, man, Lebron's the best

734
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 4: player ever, Like, don't would tell you that, would for

735
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 4: show tell you that, But they ain't see you know

736
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, black, Mike, And it's always gonna be

737
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 4: that from generation generation, even when you hear Kareem speak

738
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 4: or or when Bill Russell used to say that, it's

739
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 4: just like.

740
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: Thinking Bill Russell exactly. It was a Bill Russell guys.

741
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: You know it's funny with Austin growing up, I was

742
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: Austin like Lebron's you know, and I would send him

743
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: video and I sent him also the bill like two

744
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and it takes all right there, I get it,

745
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: all right, got it, m J was the best Send

746
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: me back. But it's a fun debate. But I just

747
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: hate that when you do it, people think you're putting

748
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: down one guy the other.

749
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: I think they both transcended the game in a different way. Obviously,

750
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: we've never seen someone have thirty nine thousand points sixty

751
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: six thousand minutes on the goddamn floor.

752
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: We put tim into this game.

753
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: We know when I'm watching the thirty eight year old

754
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 2: have more energy than twenty ones, twenty two year olds,

755
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: twenty nine year olds. He is arguably the most is

756
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: everything on the floor. So that's what I'm looking at.

757
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in two twenty three watching

758
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: something of the past. I want to be in two

759
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: twenty three watching something of the future. And that's what

760
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: I'm embracing. That the passpening right now. Man, listen, this

761
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: happening Domin.

762
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: You know what the scary thing y'all I think about too,

763
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, like when Lebron go like, who's gonna

764
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: be that face, who can really carry the torch? Somebody

765
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 4: went from Jordan and I think in the early two

766
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 4: thousands it was multiple players. You know, it was Kobe committment,

767
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 4: committed committee, and then Lebron took over. So so now

768
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 4: I'm looking like, damn.

769
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: Lebron and Steph. I don't think we give Steph enough

770
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: credit because Steph is as much of a game changer

771
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: as anybody in our lifetime. Like you go to au game, now,

772
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: ain't nobody dunking? Remember you go to a game noway

773
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: and took a jump shot? Everybody was you go to

774
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 1: the game people, everybody, that's the one dude. We don't

775
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: give him enough credit anybody. He's one of the most

776
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: titles of that group. They're watching him now still and

777
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: Durant now the three oldest players are dominating.

778
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: But see what the kids do. They say, I can

779
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 4: be Steph because I can't beat Durant because I'm not

780
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 4: growing the seven feet, i can't beat the Lebron because

781
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be six eight in buff But kids

782
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 4: looking say, I can probably be his Steph. You know,

783
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: six two six three and can shoot really well and

784
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: move it out the ball. That's that's it's not realistic really,

785
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: but like they're not gonna be the great, but it's

786
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 4: more realistic.

787
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: But they ain't gonna put in the time. You know,

788
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: Steph Man, he he's a machine. He works and you know, listen,

789
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: all y'all, it's no think about every team you played on.

790
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: You were the best player on your teams, but you're

791
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: also with the hardest worker on your teamers. That ain't

792
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: a coincidence. Ray Allen was our best shooter, right who

793
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: took the most shots if you counted the entire time

794
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: we were at together, who took more shots than Ray?

795
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, okay, you want to be a better shooter,

796
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: but the better shooter taking more shots and practice. You know,

797
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: there's a Tiger Woods store. I was golfing with like

798
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: three other professional golfers and I'm not gonna use their name,

799
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: but we're golfing and Tiger Woods was on the range.

800
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: We finished golfing. He's still on the range. Now that's

801
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: where hours later we go eat. Is now a porn

802
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: rain storm, I mean in Orlando and there's no one

803
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: there except for Tigers on the range hitting balls in

804
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: the rain. Because the British Open was in a week

805
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: and a half and he thought it may rain, so

806
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: he had to play through it. I called one of

807
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: the guys, I said, catch you a question. Uh, Tiger

808
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: Woods is the best player, right, it's okay, yeah, by far?

809
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: You know it's the best, maybe the best in history.

810
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: And I said, you think he works out out works

811
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: everybody on tour. He said, yeah, man, he outworks all

812
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: of us. I said, okay, now he's number one. Now

813
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: he's out working you. Now, how can you ever catch him?

814
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: Like when you think about it, When I started thinking

815
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: about that with shooters, with ball handlers like these guys,

816
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: I don't think guys understand how hard it is to

817
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: be great, and everybody wants to be great, and then

818
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: when they get the job, like when the number one

819
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: player's gone for a week or two, they realize, oh

820
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: I want this job. This is hard, you know. So

821
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: it's it still comes down to the work ethic.

822
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: I know you have a love for coaching. I know

823
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: that this break is great. Could you ever see yourself

824
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: in any capacity coaching again?

825
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: On the stuff, I don't.

826
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: Know, Kevin. It's got to be the right. They would

827
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: have to be a perfect situation.

828
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: I know one thing I don't mean they won't define perfect.

829
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: Perfect means we have to have eight team in the

830
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: front office. You have to be on the same path.

831
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: I know where not going. Yeah, you can't be. I

832
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: can't me.

833
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 4: I'm going to see him in San Antonio.

834
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: And pop no, no, no, no, no, no, that's what

835
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: being y'all gonna be developed.

836
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 4: No, he's gonna be ready to go.

837
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: I think I know where you're going.

838
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: Now, look, bring a team to it. Now, they bring

839
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: a team the mall.

840
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm coaching that.

841
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: Job. Give me the pepper down job, the mail waves.

842
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: We would be unbelievable. But no, it's like it's so

843
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: important for you. You just can't do your job as

844
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: a coaching our NBA. Now if you can't, you know

845
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: what do they say? Culture happens when you turn your

846
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: back when you're not in the room.

847
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: You know.

848
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: If I can't leave a room and feel good, Yeah,

849
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: then you can't work. And so you have to have

850
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: that and you gotta be on the same page. Man,

851
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: it's too much for you not to be. You want

852
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: to win, you better be, So that would be my answer.

853
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: If not, TV, I'm gonna play a lot of bad

854
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: golf because I talk about golf people. I'm really good.

855
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 4: We're gonna get out there with We're.

856
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: Gonna get an invitation. You know what I'm saying.

857
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: Now that I'm here, y'all get me kicked out of

858
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: a club.

859
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 4: No, no, no, you wear the right stuff.

860
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 3: We're the right man.

861
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm coming with Etniaquette.

862
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: I'm coming. I'm gonna have my whole outfit.

863
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: I may leave my golf game in the car, but

864
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: I'm coming. Happens, whatever happens, we're bringing play best ball

865
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: to I don't want to play all that like my

866
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 2: ball over here.

867
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: Okay, who got the best Okay, drop right here right here.

868
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,479
Speaker 2: That means that's not that's golf. How we're gonna start

869
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: off start off like this and didn't get good? War

870
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: because Bro think he beating me and I'm bad at

871
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 2: watch Bro, You're.

872
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 4: Not bad than that golf. You just bro you that

873
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 4: that golf text. Man, listen to my ship together from

874
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 4: the hood.

875
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: You've been going to golf. Believe Lord, I've been going

876
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: to golf.

877
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 4: Take I got I'm gonna go with Paul and the golf.

878
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: I got it.

879
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: They got the same birthday right now to what I'm

880
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: locked in to.

881
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: What working out locked, locked this man up, man and

882
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: whatever nigga. Like we were saying, see, this is what

883
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: I had to deal with, Like, hey, you don't know

884
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: what I'm doing, this is this is the time out right, man,

885
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: Come on right there, I want right here, right here.

886
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's what I want to show when I

887
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: came to timeouts. And let's say one time out in

888
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: every game I went to Paul one time, I go

889
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: to Ray one time. What would y'all think when it

890
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: what y'all?

891
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 3: So let me say this real ship, let me go first.

892
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: At no point did we ever envy who shot it,

893
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: because we had the belief in all three of us as.

894
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: Long as it was all three of us. Real ship.

895
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: A probably posed because Poe's been there, right, But we

896
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: felt the we felt the responsibility to take the big

897
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: shots and make the big decisions, you know what I'm saying.

898
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: So if it came from p and I had, you

899
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: had to be ready if it came from me rap

900
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: And that's how I can honestly say we never are

901
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: We never talked about having any issues with who I did.

902
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 4: I remember God drew up a play one time and

903
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 4: I had no involvement in it. And you know, I

904
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: didn't make some game winners, but he drew up the

905
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 4: right play. I remember it was in Philly. I'll never

906
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 4: forget it. He drew a play for for for a

907
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: law for you.

908
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: I remember the shando and I wasn't if.

909
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 4: I was like over here in the corner and I

910
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 4: was just like, I'm not even in the play. But

911
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 4: it worked, you know when it just like yeah, But

912
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 4: you know, it was the most satisfaction for me just

913
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: to have those teammates when I used to see you

914
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 4: make a game winner or or the pressure wasn't on

915
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 4: me no more like when I see Ray hit hit

916
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 4: the shots, and it was just like for me to watch.

917
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: That my favorite place. There's a couple of them. One

918
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: was a love for Rondo against Miami.

919
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

920
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: One was we ran up. I was at the AU game.

921
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 4: Yeah maybe the bales man that day. I'm like, I'm

922
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: taking up the game.

923
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: Yeah I can.

924
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 4: I can make free throws down a stretch. I can

925
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 4: make a shot, but I'm taking the ball out.

926
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: Remember the time line, I said, ball, can you make

927
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: this pass? I can make it pass, but you were

928
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: thinking I need the ball. We also ran against Cleveland

929
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: playoff game. I was at the AU game and I

930
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: think it was Austin's and Jeremiah c when Ice cl

931
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: play and then we drew it up in practice. We

932
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: ran it and to scored twice. But we got the

933
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: time out and you said, let's run high school. I

934
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: was like, no, come on, coach, let's run high school.

935
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: And it's two times this happened. I'm telling you all now.

936
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: Uh so I I draw it up, and I remember

937
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: sitting on the bench and this is what we draw up.

938
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna work. Were running the high school play,

939
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: I actually said, but they wanted to run it, and

940
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: sometimes as a coach, you go with it.

941
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: August he just walked into the layout.

942
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: And then the other one was we scored on the

943
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: three with Ray against Philadelphia the year before and you

944
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: all four, y'all, you run the right y'all said it.

945
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: We're in the time out and I drop another play

946
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: and run this. Let's let's run the same play we

947
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: ran against him last year. I said, we can't run

948
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: the same play that we ran against the team last year.

949
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: It's not gonna work. And all y'all, oh, it's gonna work.

950
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: I came to the time out and that time I was,

951
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: Sam remembered to Sam might big coaching my year. I

952
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: was literally like I wrought to the huddle on TIMS.

953
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: I said, man, this is the dumbest thing I've ever

954
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: done as a coach.

955
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: So what you mean?

956
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,959
Speaker 1: I said, were running the same play, it's not gonna work.

957
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: And Ray was so and it was so wide open.

958
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: And it's funny how the real story the media they

959
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: think we're y'all are celebrating, but y'all.

960
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: Appointing at me.

961
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: We told you who he told you, and y'a was

962
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: so happy to be right.

963
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 3: That work. You know it didn't work, man.

964
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 4: You know that's the beauty, Like just like with Doc

965
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 4: because like we can go into the time out and

966
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 4: he'll listen to the players, and I think, I think

967
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 4: that's an involvement of a coach, you know what I'm saying,

968
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: because sometimes you know, the coach gonna do everything, but

969
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 4: when he listened to us sometimes it's just that's what made.

970
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: That came from y'all listening to me. Listen, y'all let

971
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: me coach, y'all. Yeah, so I had to. If you

972
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: allow a coach to coach you, you're gonna give the

973
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: play everything.

974
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 4: They beat time out. It beat timeouts, were going to

975
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 4: the time out and Rondo will dropped the play. He'd

976
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 4: be like, all, I gotta play doctor and Rondo of

977
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 4: a drop a play and Doc.

978
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: Is the only player with CP a little bit. But

979
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: Ron was the only guy. Remember had play ship. Yeah

980
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: he's the only guy. But do two play sheets and

981
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: I would get run the one before the game. And

982
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: it was amazing. Man, that dude is the smartest, best

983
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: his brain. Yeah, he was coming to time out and

984
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, fifty two twists. He's already doing it with

985
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: his mouth. He knows what we're running.

986
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 4: He was hard players, but the other team plays you shocked.

987
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 3: He's not in coaching, he will be.

988
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just too smart. Now he ain't gonna be

989
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: the most patient coach because he's still when I first

990
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: came in, that's what you learned, coach patients and big picture.

991
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: You got to still in the big picture. Like you know,

992
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: the other night, New Orleans get blown out. You know

993
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: that's a game. You say, all right, guys, go to

994
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: the restaurant, go have a good time to night in Vegas.

995
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow. And then there's times when you're

996
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: winning which you always notice. That's what I was on

997
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: mind when we lost. I was not off well, we

998
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: start winning too much. That's when I got rough because

999
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: I can feel y'all walking around with your shades on.

1000
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: Here we're about to go to a bad place. And

1001
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: that's when I got on y'all. Yeah, so y'all, I

1002
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: love it. I used to love when you actually gave

1003
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: us a chance. We would come and Doc was sit

1004
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: right here. We wouldn't even say nothing, and this all

1005
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: five of us will.

1006
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 3: Be in the uproar.

1007
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 2: We'd be aregon, commensating with whatever, whatever, whatever.

1008
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: They didn't. He like, you're okay, y'all finished, y'all done, okay, cool,

1009
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: just what we're doing.

1010
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: That was to me, that was that was that was

1011
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: the icing on the cake, because we had to be

1012
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: able to interact the deal and each other allowed that.

1013
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 3: He allowed us to be us.

1014
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: We didn't have to be someone else, and every guy

1015
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 2: in this and in this was himself. I didn't feel

1016
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: like I was getting another form of t A. I

1017
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: thought that I was another form of baby or another

1018
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: form of dog. I felt like all of us was

1019
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 2: who we are and we were. He allowed you to

1020
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: be yourself.

1021
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: I remember one in Indiana.

1022
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 3: That probably been the roughest night of all of it.

1023
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: That was, it's the game and you and Brandon Bass

1024
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: about to fight. I'm sitting there, Kevin is yelling me,

1025
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: you were get involved, you were get involved, and I'm trying.

1026
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: I was trying to have the coaches stay out of it,

1027
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: and we were trying to resolute.

1028
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 3: And then the locker room just went But I.

1029
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: Sat there and I waited, and then ray and Paul

1030
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean Raying run will start getting into it. But

1031
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: I got to do the media. So y'all don't even

1032
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: know this. So y'all arguing, but I got to go

1033
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: out and do the meetings outside the door. When I

1034
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: so remember i left the room. I could hear you

1035
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: still fighting and arguing. And I walk out to the

1036
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: media and I said, listen to her.

1037
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: We won this game.

1038
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: We're in there fighting. And I walked out to the

1039
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: media and I said, listen to her. Guys best celebrating,

1040
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: I said, And I said, this is the most wonderful

1041
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: team you know, and they're in there fighting. Get it.

1042
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: We're just about to be the.

1043
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: So I actually said, I'm not gonna let you in

1044
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: right away. I'm gonna go back in and celebrate with

1045
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: the guys, and I had to go back in and

1046
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: break up the fights. And the media never found out.

1047
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: No one ever found out, and it got squashed. But

1048
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: you know those things that that's part of families. It

1049
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: really is. Man As a coach, I've had some crazy

1050
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: I gotta change the names. I'm gonna have to Beau.

1051
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: The coach takes it the hardest. Y'all don't realize that

1052
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: because you always think like I got y'all to play

1053
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: together and work together. But when you can't get two

1054
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: to work together, you can't win, and people don't understand

1055
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: that you can be as good as you want. Always

1056
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: look back on the Clippers team, if we had had cooperation,

1057
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: we had it the first year we just lost all right,

1058
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: But then you didn't happen anymore with each other, not

1059
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: just with coach player player. If you think you're gonna

1060
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: win without that, isn't that with the one thing y'all

1061
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: learned more than anything, like you can't win without. And

1062
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: for me as a coach, I don't understand why players

1063
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: can't see it, like you gotta get along, you gotta

1064
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: get up.

1065
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 4: You got when I got to the Clippers. That's when

1066
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 4: I saw the changing dynamic of the league because I

1067
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 4: got there and me coming from where I came from

1068
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 4: with the subjects how we was all together. And I

1069
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 4: remember our first I'll never forget our first role game.

1070
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 4: And we had breakfast and so I go into the

1071
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 4: breakfast room and everybody's sitting at different tables and I

1072
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 4: was looking like, what.

1073
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: You mean, I mean you might have CP over here,

1074
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: Blake over here. I mean, it was like so spread out.

1075
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 4: I never seen nothing like it.

1076
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: To wear us.

1077
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 4: We gonna come and say that one or two tables

1078
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 4: and talk about what we did last night or the

1079
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 4: facts of the day.

1080
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna conversation what we gotta do tonight.

1081
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: Also, if you had a function, yeah, everybody, everybody. We

1082
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: had team dinners that I threw everybody.

1083
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it was just it was hard, dude.

1084
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 4: I seen I seen it for the first time and

1085
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 4: I was like, I ain't used to this, you know.

1086
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 4: And then they hurd around side. I said, I brought

1087
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 4: everybody in at the table when I was like, y'all

1088
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 4: got to be together, sit together, you know. Chris Chris

1089
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 4: Paul had a charity event and it was only like

1090
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 4: two of his teammates there, and I looked like I've

1091
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 4: never seen it. I went off the next day and

1092
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 4: like that if you have something you had to you

1093
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 4: had to say that. You have to say it over

1094
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 4: and over, and we never had. And I was like,

1095
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 4: this is time for me to retire.

1096
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: Say I got the Philly same stuff, you know, And

1097
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: and that's where, like, you know, we get into ourselves.

1098
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm busy. I remember one of the places. Man, I'm busy.

1099
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: I got that's like, is it too want to go?

1100
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go?

1101
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 4: Do you think I want to?

1102
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: You know, Kevin and Paul having a big bowling You

1103
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: think I want to go bowling on Thursday night? No,

1104
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: but they're having it, and so it's part of sacrifice

1105
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: you go. And that's what you know. Being in the

1106
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: uh you know with my daughter uh marri up, you

1107
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: kind of hear Steph and then talk about that's what

1108
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: they have. It's Steph so something. Everybody's there, jerremand does something. Everybody.

1109
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: Those are the teams that win. It's no point indent

1110
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: like when is not an accident. It's either either you

1111
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: buy in or you're not. You'll be good, You'll win

1112
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: a lot of games, but you ain't gonna be the winner.

1113
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: I love it, man, you like this year. I'm about

1114
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: to say who. I don't know who you got to

1115
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: win it? I don't know right now, I really don't.

1116
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 1: I think Boston in Milwaukee. I think Philly is a sleeper.

1117
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 3: It is.

1118
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: They are because Joel is he is people. I mean,

1119
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: I coach him. He is. He's as good as I've

1120
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: ever seen. They're dangerous. And then there's always another team, Miami.

1121
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: Miami is always there. In Indiana, you better be careful.

1122
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 1: I would like Indiana you should beat in the playoffs,

1123
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: but I would not want to play them in the

1124
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: play Orlando and they're deep, deep. And that was about

1125
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: to say one thing I about these young teams Indiana

1126
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: in Orlando, they got dogs. Okay, okay, see in the West, Shay, Yeah,

1127
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I was part of it.

1128
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 4: What you think about that?

1129
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 3: You don't become Shade.

1130
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: If he stay on the Clippers, he.

1131
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 3: Does, he does, he does.

1132
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: That's Sam. You can ask Sam. When we did the trade.

1133
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: I told Sam, I said, man, I know we gotta

1134
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: do this trade, but but Shay is gonna be a superstar.

1135
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 3: Man.

1136
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: Oh, you can see it early, you can. Superstar had

1137
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: a great rookie year. And the other thing he has

1138
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: is character. He's a high character kid. He works, he

1139
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: wants to be coached, he wants like, he invites coaching,

1140
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: and he's gotta like people get Shay wrong. Shae's a

1141
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: dog like. He's got this nice, you know, demeanor, but

1142
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: he is a dog like. He wants a tear, but

1143
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't smiling. Then say wants to rip you up

1144
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: and you can see it. But now when I look back,

1145
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, the six first round picks. Damn, holy goodness.

1146
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: Wow are you are you worried about Golden State? Any doc?

1147
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? I am. You know, it's just like us towards

1148
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: the end, you gotta break this up. But they still could.

1149
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: They may make her twenty ten run. You know, I

1150
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: know one thing. Do you want to play go stand

1151
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: in the playoffs? No? No?

1152
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 3: And guess what No.

1153
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson going through probably arguably his worst time, right, Yeah,

1154
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: I really believe this.

1155
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 3: You do not stay in this way for too long

1156
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 3: and at some point you come.

1157
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: Out of it.

1158
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 3: I'm about like you.

1159
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: They are one of them wounded animals that you don't

1160
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: want to see and I think they're gonna be better

1161
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: the second.

1162
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: Half of Clay Draymond is stilled. Draymon, Steph is still Steph.

1163
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: Wiggy is better. All right, Clay is not going to

1164
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: be the Clay that he was because of injury. Still

1165
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: shoot the hell out of the ball and he'll find

1166
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: his rhythm there. You know, they may need one more guy,

1167
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know who that's gonna be. But man,

1168
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: I would not want to play them in a seven

1169
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: game series. They're gonna be if I'm a young team,

1170
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to play that. No, no, No, Phoenix

1171
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: is the team though, man Like they're they're built to win.

1172
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: They just haven't looked good yet, you know, but they're

1173
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: but they've had injury. You know, the book gets hurt

1174
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: because of his style. Books are physical and then Bradley

1175
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: ain't played yet and I'm worried about his back. So

1176
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: h But when you think about that, and then you

1177
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: have Gordon coming off the bench, and they're they're built

1178
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: to win. So if they get it right, they're gonna

1179
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: be tough. But at the end of the day, still

1180
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: got to deal with that dude in Denver. He's the

1181
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: best player, right now, yeah, because he just does everything.

1182
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: Joel is the best score Like for Joker, Joel is

1183
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: the only guy that can stop Joel from school. You

1184
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: can't stop you know he is. He can do everything.

1185
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: But but the Joker man, it just makes everybody better.

1186
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: They run, they run, the offense, just throw him the ball,

1187
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: you know. Austin we laugh awesome to this day, says

1188
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: he ruined the worst pass in the history of the game.

1189
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 4: Uh.

1190
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: He said he was cutting through, just talking through. The

1191
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: ball came and he caught it. But he's on the

1192
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: room he hit it, and he said he watched the

1193
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: highlights how he saw it where he sees I was

1194
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: talking to Bruce to day, he was like, man, it's

1195
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: nothing like it. And that's what makes him so good.

1196
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 4: He's one of the most dominant selfless players that ever ever,

1197
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 4: Like you don't see a big g be so selfless

1198
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 4: but still so dominanting.

1199
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: We am talking about like the West is gonna be

1200
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: the West playoffs just gonna be crazy. It's gonna come

1201
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: down the matchups. People don't.

1202
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 4: I think there's no clear favorite. I think the style

1203
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 4: is gonna make the fight. They have to play them

1204
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 4: or they have to play them.

1205
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: That's going to do. There's certain teams that are maybe

1206
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: the best team, but they can Clippers.

1207
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 4: Clippers are playing better.

1208
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 3: I said.

1209
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: That all yeah, the Clippers, Uh, they're just so talented

1210
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: they are wild card. H I agree with that with

1211
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 1: the Clippers if they figured that little thing out. Because

1212
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: still Kawi people sleep on him.

1213
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 4: I feel like Paul George is taking the lead. He

1214
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 4: has scoring for sure. And then James.

1215
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: What James has added to them is now they have

1216
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,959
Speaker 1: Zoo browling, so they have a pick and roll James.

1217
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 4: If you roll, you can get decisions.

1218
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: The question will be will he feel enough for them

1219
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: to win because last year the Clippers were a defensive

1220
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: team in a lot of ways.

1221
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 4: In a finals picks, Finals picks, who you got?

1222
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: I got?

1223
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 4: I got Celtics versus Phoenix?

1224
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 3: Who you got?

1225
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: You's tough. I'm between Celtics and Boston and the Milwaukee

1226
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure I'm gonna go with the Celtics.

1227
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: But that's a tight one. It's it's uh. And then

1228
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: I got I got Denver coming back. They do miss Brown.

1229
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: They missed both of those guys.

1230
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 4: I don't feel like they're like there're be there are

1231
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 4: champs but they're being slept on.

1232
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: But they were slept on last year. Yeah, and Murray

1233
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: has been out. I just got back.

1234
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 4: But I don't feel like that. You know, in the past,

1235
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 4: you're like, all right, the team that wanted that next year,

1236
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 4: you're like they I don't.

1237
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were better than next year. Yeah, that's what

1238
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 1: I feel like. He didn't get hurt. I think we're

1239
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: twenty six and three.

1240
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, the other day, Yeah, we're we're we're down.

1241
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 4: There's a couple of teams that the next year that

1242
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 4: the year we should have went to and then the

1243
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 4: year we asked Shaq that that's start.

1244
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: You know, people forget like that's we I think we

1245
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: were like fifteen and one. In the game Ship played in.

1246
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: He was just too old, couldn't play anywhere.

1247
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 3: His presence alone was yeah, oh man, he was good.

1248
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: And I remember the one practice where you put Jack

1249
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: Shack one of the change coverages and Kevin says, is, Shaq,

1250
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: this is what we do.

1251
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 3: He got what we do. We got right.

1252
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: We ain't change it. Remember, give shack Shack was like

1253
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: That's what I knew. He was on board because he

1254
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: was like, OK, we're gonna do it this way, this way.

1255
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,439
Speaker 1: You know what's funny about Shaq. I haven't been around

1256
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,919
Speaker 1: Shack my whole life. Right coached against him, played against

1257
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: the one game. I never knew that this is a

1258
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: crazy state. I never knew how big he was because

1259
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: I've never around him. And you remember, he wanted to

1260
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: play with us. So he said, hey, coach, O, can

1261
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: I drive over your house? It was in Orlando. I said, yeah,

1262
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: going over the house, let's talk. He pulls in the

1263
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: in the semi truck, which I made him park on

1264
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: the street. I said, they ain't bring that big thing

1265
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: in my driveway, ripped my driveway up. He's a purpose thing,

1266
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: no Superman logo. But then he gets out and I

1267
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: opened the door and I'm looking at him Shot and

1268
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, Ship is a big dude, you know, like

1269
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: you forget trust me? I do I know because you

1270
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: have to play.

1271
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 4: Because when we sat on the bench, Sho sit with

1272
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 4: don't see we all here like.

1273
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: Slide down man. If Shot is he just couldn't stay healthy.

1274
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: But if he could have stayed healthy, damn, which tells

1275
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: you how good.

1276
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: He was because he was his presence, like yeah, thanks

1277
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 2: for coming through.

1278
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: Was awesome, awesome, by the time, you'll have me on

1279
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: y'all show. I'm like, y'all got Tony Allen on the show,

1280
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: Rondo on the show, was Edy House on the show.

1281
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: Now you can have Eddie on.

1282
01:03:55,600 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 3: He got two sons coming out. Boys. I've been watching

1283
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 3: this wasting good fan Yeah.

1284
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: They really. I love watching all y'all coaching now, it's hilarious.

1285
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: I love watch watching everybody games. You know, the craziest

1286
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: moment of the team when I thought you're gonna get hurt.

1287
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,959
Speaker 1: I swear you're gonna get hurt. When you were gonna

1288
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: arm wrestle Big Baby. Listen, that was nuts.

1289
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: I believe Big Baby, my dog, the only one who

1290
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 3: believed in me.

1291
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: Right here.

1292
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 4: You know, look, I think you get hurt no wrestling,

1293
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 4: I said, bet, I'm the only one that bet with him.

1294
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: But you didn't believe that.

1295
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 3: No I did.

1296
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: I didn't know what so this one. So this is

1297
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: what you're looking So this what you don't that is

1298
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 2: not stronger than the baby. I'm not saying this. We will,

1299
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: we will, we will.

1300
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: Listen.

1301
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: We would go to the weight room in the morning.

1302
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 2: In the morning, you used to be the jungle and

1303
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: we watched Big Baby and Leon pold one thirties twenty five.

1304
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 2: I take my little one fifteens and I'm like, okay, man,

1305
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: the guys a ticket growing it gets And that's what

1306
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 2: rum me. When I saw how everybody jumped over, I

1307
01:04:59,400 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 2: was like a word.

1308
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 1: He was the funniest thing. I was in the front

1309
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: and Randell came and got me. Y'all never knew that coach, Coach,

1310
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: you may get back to. I said, for what Kevin

1311
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: the big baby about to have him. I'm russell, Kevin

1312
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: will get hurt, coach. And when I was sawing, I'm like,

1313
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: this dude's gonna get hurt. I thought big Baby would

1314
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: just go And I tell you I used that a

1315
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: speeches now about will really, because there's no reason big

1316
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: Baby shouldn't win. That Kevin starts staring.

1317
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 3: At I told you doubt earlier. He's we slapped.

1318
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 4: I selected you don't even know it stayed right here, listen,

1319
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 4: it's not right for about five minutes, yes, and then

1320
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 4: he waited till.

1321
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 3: Baby got tired. You know, none of this, big fellow,

1322
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 3: Big fella, just say what you want.

1323
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: It was amazing.

1324
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 3: All ship were moving, big fella, all ship, big fella.

1325
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: This movie, he's wating ritching.

1326
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, let's go. This was uh.

1327
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: We're having a team meeting and Joel as Sam can say,

1328
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: what was the biggest athletic feat you ever seen? It's oh, no,

1329
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,439
Speaker 1: that's easy. And I'm thinking he's gonna say, donc He said,

1330
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett, big big baby in ar wrastl And I

1331
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: was like what, And then I thought about it. He

1332
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: said it was impossible. But when you see you.

1333
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 4: See the hands together because big Baby got this big.

1334
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 2: Old hand, big we shlopped like this. Yeah, and then

1335
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 2: we ain't got no shirt on. We sweat.

1336
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 3: It was some gorilla ship.

1337
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. We turned the plane into a zoo.

1338
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 3: You know.

1339
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: Danny came out to talking with me about it. I said, listen,

1340
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: the media is in the locker room, so they never

1341
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: get a time to ourselves, to themselves. So I said,

1342
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let them play music. I'm gonna let

1343
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: them turn the wild Zone or whatever. So I'm just

1344
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: gonna let them turn up the plane into nutty was.

1345
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 4: It was.

1346
01:06:55,560 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 3: Card It was the Junker, but then we lockey. That's oh,

1347
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 3: I got I gonna go work man.

1348
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 4: I gotta about man with you today.

1349
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 3: Thank y'all. Man, it's been perfect with that