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Speaker 1: That is what you are listening to. This is the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver scouting report for the top three guys. Obviously

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Speaker 1: ain't fucking around like Will Anderson serious is a heart attack.

429
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: So every ounce of talent they have they maximize. And

430
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: this guy has talent jumping out in spades four four

431
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: six forty in's vertical. He's two hundred and fifty pounds,

432
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: but his strength is you can't expect that to change

433
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: because the reality is is not going to change. My

434
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: strength is always going to be something he deals with.

435
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty four. If this was nineteen eighty eight

436
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: and every team was running the ball thirty five times

437
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: a game, yeah, it'd be a problem. Teams pass non stop.

438
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: It's a passing leak, and a lot of teams pass

439
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: it a shitload. So you're not facing Kyle Shanahan every week.

440
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: So I I think that has to play into the equation.

441
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: And I would say that the mock and everyone put

442
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: it into Atlanta, you would have to imagine that he

443
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: is in play there first. An interesting guy because in

444
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: these draft rooms, like I said, you talk about their background,

445
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: and in the transfer portal days, a lot of guys

446
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: moved teams, and like a guy goes from Fresno State

447
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 1: to Oregon, right or Boise State to Oklahoma.

448
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 3: Happens all the time.

449
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: Now you go, you know, a little under recruited, grew

450
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: into his body, things changed, and this is a guy

451
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: that put on a bunch of weight, changed positions and whatever.

452
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: Transferred to Florida State, which has been one of the

453
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: better programs in the country the last two years. I

454
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: mean this year to when their quarterback went down, they

455
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: were going to the playoffs. I mean they were not

456
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: just one of the best teams in the country, they

457
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: were one of the best defense in the country, and

458
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: this guy was their best player. The concerning part is

459
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: anytime you come like kind of out of nowhere, it's

460
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: just there is something to be said about guys that

461
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: are blue chippers now that that can also lead you astray.

462
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: Some guys get draft in the second round and they've

463
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: never been good in college just because well, five star

464
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: recruit underwhelming. But he has all the physical characteristics. So

465
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's the end all be all. Starts

466
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: at a small school, goes to Florida, say and dominates,

467
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean dominates. So you go, Okay, whatever weird situation,

468
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: Albany Division ten school, whatever he is. You know, he's

469
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: sixty three two hundred and sixty ish pounds and texting

470
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: and around. I was like, you know, is this kind

471
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: of like Brandon Graham? Is that because he's a power

472
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: rusher Dallas Turner speed off the edge, right, I beat you.

473
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 1: I'd bend, I get to the corner and you can't

474
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: keep up with my speed. This guy much more in

475
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: the mold of bull rush. You shove your ass back

476
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: into the quarterback, which power guys are a little riskier

477
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: because not all power translates, but when it does, Clowney

478
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: Mac like, strength is strength, and this guy's a powerful player.

479
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: The one comp I kind of got from a couple

480
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: people was much closer to like a Rashaan Gary, a

481
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: cave On Thibodeau, right, not bendy, a little stiffer, but

482
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: the power is gonna work, high end character guy, hard worker.

483
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: You feel good about those type guys like Cavon's a

484
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: good example. He's a good player, He's a starting, really

485
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: good starter. Is he ever gonna be some blue chip

486
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: pro bowler? Like I don't know, best case scenario makes

487
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: a couple and I know.

488
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: People like Pro Bowl? What does that even?

489
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

490
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 3: Like a really really high end player. Maybe this year because.

491
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: His talent around him is better, we'll see a lot

492
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: of pressure on him. This guy's not viewed as a

493
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: top ten pick. But if I get Rashaan Gary or

494
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: Caveon Thibideau, to me this guy, would you rather have

495
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: Dallas Turner and take the risk at eight or get

496
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: this guy at like pick sixteen?

497
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 3: And I think this.

498
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: Guy is one of the more intriguing prospects in the

499
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: NFL because all the teams in the teams go, that's

500
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: pretty good value there. Right, If I get Rashaan Gary

501
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: at picks sixteen, like, that's a really good pick. And

502
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: here's what I say this all the time too, I'm like,

503
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm a hypocrite because who are we comparing them all to?

504
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: Like good players? Some guys just what if he's saw

505
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: themon Thomas, what if he's Cleveland Ferrell. Right, that's the

506
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: hard part about these type guys.

507
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 3: They're athletic. He's a good athlete. He ran a four

508
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: or five.

509
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: But the power game that tryhard is that's doing him

510
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 1: a disservice by saying that. But plays with a lot

511
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: of effort and power can be tough. When those guys pop,

512
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: it really pops. But when it doesn't really pop, you

513
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: just get a solid player. Now, the good thing is,

514
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: and we say this all the time about non quarterbacks,

515
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: even if he never becomes a pro bowler, he still

516
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: plays twenty five thirty snaps a game, so he can

517
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: become a winning player, which he definitely was in college.

518
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: But I think this guy is clearly viewed as a

519
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: guy in the middle teens. Now, I think a guy

520
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: viewed pretty consistently as the best pass rusher is the

521
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: guy from UCLA lat Tou Latu. Here's the problem. There

522
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: is a massive medical red flag on the guy. He

523
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: started at the University of Washington and had a neck

524
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: injury and for a brief second medically retired. Then he

525
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: got surgery. He was cleared, and he played at UCLA

526
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: and the last two years he had twenty three sacks.

527
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: He was arguably the most productive pass rusher in all

528
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: of Power five and he was the PAC twelve Defensive

529
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. And he's kind of got it all.

530
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: Lance Zerlin, who I trust, who's evaluated these guys for decades,

531
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: compared him to TJ. Watt the power of the speed,

532
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: the technique, like that's one of his things. He's a technician.

533
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: He's just a natural pass rusher. He's one of those

534
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: guys Jim Washburn would say, this guy is fucking born

535
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback and he knows how to

536
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: do it, and he's proven it. The problem is when

537
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: you have a huge medical red flag, fair or not,

538
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: because you go well, he's not only been cleared, he's

539
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: been productive and played the last couple of years. And

540
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: here's the thing about UCLA. You go, well, Chip Kelly,

541
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: they're an offensive team. Their offense sucked last year. They've

542
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: been a defensive team, especially last year. Anthony Lynn's son,

543
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: who was their defensive coordinator, got hired at USC because

544
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: he's a really good defensive coordinator. And this wasn't just

545
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: the best defensive player. This guy was arguably the best

546
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: defensive player in the country. I just know that that

547
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: medical red flag scares you. But we talked to Mayock

548
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: about this a couple of weeks ago. Anytime a guy

549
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: has been injured and had serious injuries, Michael Pennix, you go, Okay,

550
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: he's got medical issues. But then once you go a

551
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: couple of years and don't miss games and show your durability,

552
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: are you then a medical red flag? And this is

553
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: where the doctors get involved, right, because they give their

554
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: opinions in gms and coaches. They don't have medical degrees, right,

555
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: they have coaching and personnel degrees.

556
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: That's what they do for a living.

557
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: So when these guys come in, go god, you know,

558
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: there's a fifty to fifty chance that thing comes back

559
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: to fruition. And we got a problem, especially in the trenches.

560
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: The game is a lot softer now right in terms

561
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: of guys going across the middle. The big hits are

562
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: out of the game. The trenches is the one area

563
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: where it is still very violent and very physical and

564
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: where you're still able to get after it, and obviously

565
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 1: you use your head and collide a lot more than

566
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: other places on the field. Now on an island on

567
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: the edge, I would say is a little less violent

568
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: on a consistent basis than detackles, guards and centers where

569
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: they're so close to each other, but it's still something

570
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: that isn't avoidable. Now he's six ' five, two hundred

571
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: and sixty pounds. This guy is the tallest of the

572
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: three and then the most productive. And Unlike Verse, who

573
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: was a transfer from a smaller school, this guy went

574
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: to Washington under Chris Peterson at the time, which was

575
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: a high end program.

576
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

577
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call him Dallas Turner blue chip, but he

578
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: was a high end prospect. I think most people agree.

579
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: If the medical didn't exist, if there weren't any questions

580
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: on the neck, he would be the eighth overall pick.

581
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons would pick him and you could argue

582
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: there's a fifty to fifty chance they pick him at eight,

583
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 1: just take the risk if their doctors sign off on it.

584
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: So there is no Miles Garrett, Khalil Mack or Nick

585
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: Bosa in this class, but there are very, very intriguing

586
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: prospects at this spot, which if you hit on this

587
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: guy becomes one hundred million dollar player. So I understand,

588
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: I'm okay with guys that aren't great against the run.

589
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: I pay you to sack the quarterback.

590
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: Would I like you to be able to kind of

591
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: anchor down, of course, But if I view you as

592
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: a guy like could he could Dallas Turner end up

593
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: being a thirteen to fourteen sack guy. I'm taking that risk,

594
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: especially because medically he's a lot clearer than lat.

595
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: Too lat Too.

596
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: But if you tell me a lot too and my

597
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: doctor's like, yeah, we think everything's good now, I might

598
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: take him, And I don't think anyone whoever takes him.

599
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: If he somehow falls in the draft and someone gets

600
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: him in like the early twenties because of the medical

601
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: red flags and teams are scared off, it could turn

602
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: out to be one of the best picks in the draft.

603
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of scouting reports say, listen, other

604
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: guys are going to go higher in this guy. This

605
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: guy's the best pass rusher in the draft, just like

606
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix. If Michael Pennix was twenty one years old

607
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: and had never been injured, he'd be a top five pick.

608
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: But when you're older and you've been hurt, it rightfully.

609
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: So scarce seems.

610
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: But sometimes then guys are durable in the pros and

611
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: you don't have issues, right, And then guys that have

612
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: been durable in college get to the pros and they

613
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: get injured again. So no one knows, right, So if

614
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: you prove durability over your last couple of years, I

615
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: would lean that, like, I would take the chance the

616
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: guy is gonna be durable in the pros. But that's

617
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: not usually how it works. And I would imagine LAT

618
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: two falls a little bit and whoever gets him, Like,

619
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: if this guy falls to the late teens, there's gonna

620
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: be a team with seven eight nine wins kind of

621
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 1: in that range that's gonna feel very very good about

622
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: their draft pick. One thing that has, you know, following

623
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: these top teams and the messaging coming out of them

624
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: that's been pretty interesting is the Bears never wavered. Right,

625
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: My mom could have told you they were taking Caleb

626
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: Williams three months ago. Some people still like, I go

627
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: with Justin Fields, make it work, give him a chance,

628
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: and the Bears like, yeah, we're sending him to the

629
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: Steelers for a six round pick. See you. And the conversation,

630
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: even for those little radicals that wanted Fields to somehow survive,

631
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: we're completely muted and we all agreed like everyone knows,

632
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: so we don't even talk about that much. There's nothing

633
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: to talk about. Honestly. The only conversation with the Bears

634
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: is what they're gonna do with the ninth pick. But

635
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: the messaging coming out, they don't even need the message.

636
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: Caleb's taken one visit and it was to Chicago. I mean,

637
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a Chicago Bear now once you get

638
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 1: to two. Adam Peters, I don't want to say has

639
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: been as a steadfast in terms of like the Bears

640
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: left no doubt, but he has definitely let it be

641
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: known like, yeah, we're not really open for business. We

642
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: feel pretty confident at this pick. Now, we don't exactly

643
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: know who he's gonna pick. Most people and the betting

644
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: odds would say Jayden Daniels. I wouldn't bet my life's

645
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: savings on it. But when people ask me, and when

646
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: I ask people Jane Daniel, Jade Daniels, everyone says Jade Daniels.

647
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: So I think it's fair to assume Jayden Daniels. I

648
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't like fall out of my chair if another name

649
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: pops up next Thursday. But they're gonna pick a quarterback, right,

650
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: we know that. We just don't know exactly one hundred

651
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: cent sure who is gonna be. But the other teams

652
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: have not been like that, Elliott Wolf said today, longtime

653
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: executive doesn't even have the GM title. Not quite sure

654
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: what the crafts are doing, honestly, not quite sure. Just

655
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: name the guy the fucking GM. I don't care if

656
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: it's like, well, he actually has all the duties, have

657
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: the balls to name him the GM. I don't understand.

658
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: Separate from all the stuff with Bill and the production company.

659
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: Why are you guys being so weird with this? You

660
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: have a first time head coach. Just make Elliot Wolf

661
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: the GM. Are you like giving him a year trial run?

662
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: He said, we're open for business. And then it kind

663
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: of hit me today if I'm the Crafts Jonathan Bob

664
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: and I am getting destroyed locally. I mean I have

665
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: heard everywhere I look on the internet, Boston people. I

666
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: played golf with a guy like three weeks ago from Boston.

667
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: Every One I've talked to or listened to say he's

668
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: getting crushed because it's clear, like listen, time to break

669
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: up whatever. You don't need to like piss on the

670
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: guy's grave. You why are you trying to get all that?

671
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? Well, what's the easiest way

672
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: to make that negativity kind of be silenced? Because if

673
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: they trade back, it's like, oh, they added two first

674
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: round picks and they got all these players. No one

675
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: will care. No one gives a shit when you draft

676
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman until that guy becomes a star offensive lineman.

677
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: But you take a quarterback, you take Drake may or

678
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: you take JJ McCarthy with a third overall pick. We

679
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: stop talking about how cheap the Crafts are, how shitty

680
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: they've handled this situation, how just what egomaniac and control

681
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: freaks they've become since Bill left. We just start talking

682
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: about how good is JJ McCarthy or Drake may or

683
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniel is going to be on their team takes

684
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: all the oxygen out of that conversation. So even if

685
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: Elliott Wolf wanted to trade back one, he has no

686
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: equity with the franchise in terms of you know, he's

687
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: never made a pick before for them too, he's not

688
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: even technically the general manager. In three. If you're of

689
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: the crafts, like, take whoever you like the most of

690
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: that position right there, we want you to do that.

691
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: Bill might say, yeah, we're not doing that, and Bill

692
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: would have traded back. Bill would have done whatever he

693
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: wanted to do. Elliott Wolf can't. He just won't be

694
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: allowed to. So even if the front office and the

695
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: coaching staff was like, you know, given our roster, like

696
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: let's take a deep breath, I don't even think it

697
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: will be an option because the ownership will never allow

698
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: it because it's the easiest way to have everyone stop

699
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: talking about how poorly they've handled everything. The Giants, you know.

700
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: Rich Eisen said, I see all his clips on YouTube.

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00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: He's got I think he's got a radio show, TV show,

702
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: not exactly sure what it is, but I follow this

703
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: stuff on YouTube. And one thing he said, like less

704
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: than a week, maybe a couple days after the combine.

705
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,479
Speaker 1: Obviously he's there for a week calling it with DJ.

706
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: Is that. One of the main buzz scuttle butt he

707
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: had heard is how much the Giants had buyer's remorse

708
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: on Daniel Jones, which everyone's like, yeah, no shit, and

709
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: Joe Shane the day at the press conference was basically

710
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: asked about that and he said none of it was true. Now,

711
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: before I dive into my thoughts on this, I understand

712
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: where he's sitting, regardless how you actually feel, even like

713
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, I never actually wanted to sign this contract.

714
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: I was forced to buy the ownership. We were lukewarm

715
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: on the guy even Dayball, like we would have been

716
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: cool with letting him test free agency. John Marra forceus.

717
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: On my hand, he can't say that even if he

718
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: was on board with the signing and was like, listen,

719
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: short term deal, eighty million dollars sounds a lot to

720
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent of people world. Couple of years.

721
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: Move on, No, biggie, we don't really like him anymore.

722
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: We'll find another quarterback we plan on trading up in

723
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: this draft. He can't say that either, so he's in

724
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: a position where he can't really tell the truth. But

725
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: let me tell the truth for him, They one hundred

726
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: percent ownership coach GM have buyer's remorse if they could

727
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: do it over, under no circumstances would they assign that contract.

728
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Speaker 1: I'm actually confident enough they wouldn't have signed him to

729
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: do any contract. They would have just let him walk.

730
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: Information changes. You can love your wife or love your girlfriend,

731
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you found out she

732
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: cheated on you with three different men changes the equation.

733
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: You're in business with a partner, you're all making a

734
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: lot of money, you're getting paid, and then you find

735
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: out he's stealing. Your opinion of that individual changes. With

736
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: more information, we think differently. Like listen, they were bullish

737
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: on Daniel Jones first year, win some games, and now

738
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: he's also injured. Like obviously you don't know he's going

739
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: to be injured, but sitting here today he had a

740
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: torn ACL played like shit. Torn ACL makes a lot

741
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: of money. Pretty bad combination. So this notion that they

742
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: don't have buyer's remorse is just a bold face lie.

743
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: It's just impossible for that not to be true. And

744
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong. We all make poor decisions, all of us.

745
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: I know, I own a stock right now, it's an

746
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: ETF cling the Energy ETF. I've invested well over one

747
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: hundred grand into it right now. When I open up

748
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: my account it says about forty thousand dollars now. Ultimately,

749
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: big picture, I still believe in the space. But do

750
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: I regret investing my money into that stock?

751
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 3: Of course I do.

752
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: I would much rather have put it into Netflix or

753
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: put it into just anything else. But that even if

754
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: I like still and I have more belief in that

755
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: situation than I'm sure the giants do. But why do I?

756
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: I believed in it two years ago, when it was

757
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: working and going up. Things change. I never understand people

758
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: who are so beholden to the way they thought a

759
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: year ago, three years ago, eight years ago. It's like

760
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty four, April eighteenth, I'm recording this. We

761
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: have the information up to this point. You might feel

762
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: some way right now, well, April eighteenth, twenty twenty seven.

763
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: If things dramatically change about whatever you're thinking about, You're

764
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: probably not gonna think that way anymore. I hope you wouldn't,

765
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: cause if you still did, you'd probably have some issues.

766
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: You know, people ask me all the time, like what

767
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: are your career goals? Do you want to be on television?

768
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, is you two bigger in

769
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: television right now? I'd say for most people I know

770
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: it is. You know, things change at dramatic speeds. I

771
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm going to do whatever I have to do.

772
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: I'm willing to do whatever it takes. Wherever things are going,

773
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: that's where you go. I saw a lot of people

774
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: when I first got into radio, is around so many

775
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: of these newspaper guys. I saw a guy recently on

776
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: X it was like, the best advice for anyone in

777
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: sports media still is to start at a newspaper. Unless

778
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: I'm not into like talking shit on Twitter as much anymore,

779
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't care. That's it was the dumbest thing I'd

780
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: ever read, Like, this guy's actually putting this out there. Yeah,

781
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: if this was two thousand and one, maybe that's pretty

782
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: good advice. It's twenty twenty four. That'd be the last

783
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: thing I would advise to any young person, unless it's

784
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: like the Wall Street Journal, Do not fucking do that.

785
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: So signing quarterbacks is complicated, Signing the great quarterbacks is

786
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: relatively easy, even though it's complicated, because of the amount

787
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: of money, as in like Lamar Jackson, we all knew

788
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: he was good and it was still complicated. Right, Patrick

789
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: Mahomes was pretty easy, Josh Allen is pretty easy. Even

790
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: the Herbert thing, like there's pressure for him to be

791
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: a consistent top five quarterback. Trevor Lawrence has not been

792
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: paid yet, Like, we need to see a little more

793
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 1: before we give you one hundred and eighty two hundred

794
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: million dollars. It's a big financial decision, so eighty million

795
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: dollars is not two hundred million dollars. But you could

796
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: argue after fifteen touchdowns and even deserve eighty million dollars.

797
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: But there is no way to spin it. They have

798
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: buyer's remorse and there's nothing wrong with that. Another reason

799
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: I can't wait till Thursday is Belichick will be on

800
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: with McAfee. And I said this when Belichick didn't get

801
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons job, that I think Belichick won the

802
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: perception of him, let's face it, being a dictator, tough

803
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: to work with, and let's face it, a lot. I

804
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: don't necessarily agree with this because I think we all

805
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: can be this way. Asshole, a miserable curmudgeon, and listen.

806
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: Some of it's definitely probably true, but that he just

807
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: sucks and he's not a head coach in the NFL. Now,

808
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: maybe it's that he's seventy three years old, Maybe that

809
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: he had to be the GM. I don't know, but

810
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: it is nuts when you just look at the coaching

811
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: picture that Bill Belichick isn't there. He's been in the

812
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: league since nineteen seventy five. Like I'm sorry, he kind

813
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: of knows what he's doing. It's why I'm shorting the Patriots.

814
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: I think they are going to be a debacle. The

815
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: next couple of years could be wrong. But if I

816
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: had to place one strong bet, I feel the strongest

817
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: on that, and I'd probably bet on Harbaugh and the

818
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: Chargers being successful. Right, even everyone betting on the Bears,

819
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't feel great about it. Their history would show

820
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: it's still pretty risky. But I think you saw if

821
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: you go, and I would recommend this because the Belichick

822
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: we got forever in the press conferences when he was

823
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: wearing a hoodie New England Patriot or his classic like

824
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: kind of blue button up and he said nothing and

825
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: he was most mostly pretty awful in those press conferences Besides,

826
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Speaker 1: when he'd randomly get asked about a special team player,

827
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: or he'd go on some long, you know, diatribe about

828
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: how the winless whatever team he was playing in December

829
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: actually has a lot of talent and everyone would make

830
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: fun of him. He has a big personality. And I've

831
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: been you know, no people that have not only worked there,

832
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: that have played there, and they're like the guy that

833
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: you see off camera dealing with us is a lot

834
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: different than the guy that you just see in the

835
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: fifteen minute snippets of the press conferences. It's why I

836
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: was a big believer in the easiest way to change

837
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: his perception. Now, maybe he's a lock to get a

838
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: job next year. Maybe he's not. I mean, he just

839
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: had his birthdays. He's got to be seventy four next year.

840
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's I'm sorry. Even though coaches are definitely

841
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: younger than the majority of like seventy four year olds,

842
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: just because they spend most of their time around younger people,

843
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: there's a vibe like Pete Carroll's the same age. They

844
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: don't feel that old when you hear them talk. But

845
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: I probably not a shit. You win is to find

846
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: a way on the Amazon broadcast. He is too good

847
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: to be on pregame shows. That's a waste. Reality is

848
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 1: I'm not watching that, and neither are most owners. Why

849
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: their team is at a game, but there are two

850
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: games that every owner watches, every owner beside the two

851
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 1: playing in the game. That's Thursday night and Monday night.

852
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: Even Sunday night. A lot of the league is traveling

853
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Speaker 1: back and not able to watch the game, but every

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Speaker 1: owner and every decision maker is at home on Thursday

855
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: night and Monday night. Well, Monday night's set. They gave

856
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million dollars to buckan Akman. That

857
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: was the right move, but Thursday night, let's face it

858
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: is not. I've said forever Kirk Kirk Street's the stud

859
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,479
Speaker 1: love him on college football. I don't think he's that great.

860
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: Him and now don't have great chemistry. If I was Amazon,

861
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Speaker 1: I would be all over Belichick and try to get

862
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Speaker 1: him involved in that broadcast. And I also think Bill,

863
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Speaker 1: like if you watch him on mcafeet like, he's kind

864
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: of a different guy. Now, I'm not saying he's mister

865
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Speaker 1: LUs See Goosey. He's not mister politician there, but he's

866
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: very easy to watch and his depth of knowledge is insane.

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Speaker 1: Matt Ruhle, who listen. We can say what we want

868
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Speaker 1: about Matt Rules, the NFL coach. It was a debacle.

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Speaker 1: He's a good college coach. He is. I would imagine

870
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Speaker 1: Nebraska in the next couple of years it's going to

871
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: be much more competitive. Are they ever going to be

872
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: a playoff team? I don't know, but they are much

873
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: more likely to win eight to nine games in the

874
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: near future than they are to be some shit team

875
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: in which they've been. Matt Rule said that he had

876
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: Bill come to their operation and spend.

877
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: A day with the coaches.

878
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: He said, I don't know if he was in the

879
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: front of the room, back of the room when he

880
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: was talking. I don't know if he was talking to

881
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: the entire group or just the defense that Matt Rule said.

882
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: He was embarrassed.

883
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: I was embarrassed that I'm a head coach and I

884
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: don't know a tenth of what this guy is talking about.

885
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: That's how crazy, how much this guy knows. The only

886
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: way for Bill to give that to the ownership is

887
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: to put it on display. And I just hope it

888
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it's gonna happen. But I think that

889
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: would have been the move. There was another story that

890
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: came out today. I think there was a long like

891
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: one of those classic big Jay Wickersham does a really

892
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: good job, like the ESPN guys. Basically one of the

893
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: lines about Belichick and the hiring process and how he

894
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: didn't get the Atlanta job and how it kind of

895
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: ended in New England is that Bob and definitely Jonathan

896
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: Craft bad mouthed them to Arthur Smith. Now, listen, anytimes

897
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: things end in football, in any business with rich, big

898
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 1: ego guys, it's going to be ugly. I've defended Bill

899
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: like I understand Robert Craft. You can have any opinion

900
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: you want. You figured out a way to start from nothing,

901
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: make money, buy the team, and you hired Belichick. Jonathan

902
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: Craft inherited this entire life. Which I'm not one of

903
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: those people that like looks down on people just because

904
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Speaker 1: they're born into a situation. Right. I've known a lot

905
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: of people born in situations that are very capable. Right,

906
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: I've known a lot of people not born in the

907
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: situations that aren't capable to fucking walk a dog cross

908
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: the street. So where you're born, like I, successful people

909
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: can come from all walks of life. Peyton Manning was

910
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: born rich. Steph Curry was born rich. Like listen, there

911
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: are gonna be a lot of owners that you know,

912
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: take over in the NFL that are impressive, guys that

913
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: their fathers made the money, and then there are gonna

914
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Speaker 1: be guys that are kind of clowns. I don't blame

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Speaker 1: Belichick for not respecting that guy. I'm not a big

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Craft guy. Just from reading things about him, watching

917
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Speaker 1: the documentary that felt, you know, his dad's eighty plus

918
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Speaker 1: years old, it does feel a little bit like Jonathan

919
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Speaker 1: Craft has a bandet against Belichick, and one of the

920
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: things that said in there is he basically bad mouth

921
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Speaker 1: Belichick to Arthur Smith to essentially not hire the guy.

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Speaker 1: I would say this Patriot dynasty and their wealth, a

923
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: large percentage of their name power has come from the

924
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: success of the football team, which we know they had

925
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing to do with. They've even admitted we never

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Speaker 1: told Bill what to do, even with Brady the one

927
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Speaker 1: time they kind of like got to you gotta trade

928
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, but they ended up a couple years later

929
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Speaker 1: letting Brady walk. Anyway, they gave this guy Carte Blanche

930
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: to be in full control, and he made that family

931
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Speaker 1: name not only very famous, not only very successful, but

932
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: an NFL champ with Tom over and over and over again.

933
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Speaker 1: So if I'm Bill like, and it's obviously just based

934
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: on his coaching history, he can be very spiteful. He

935
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 1: can be very petty. I would hate those guys, specifically

936
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Speaker 1: the kid I already didn't respect him. I would have

937
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: a vandetta and revenge of doing everything possible to get

938
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Speaker 1: back in the league so I could play that guy again.

939
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Speaker 1: Because the Patriots, I think the other day tweeted out

940
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 1: Happy Birthday, Bill. It's like, guys, you guys are trying

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Speaker 1: a little too larger the volume. M