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Speaker 1: Taking a Walk podcast. And this is an addition that

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Speaker 1: we love to do called this Week in Music History.

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Speaker 1: And for that feature, I turn right to the music

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Speaker 1: history desk. He's got volumes of plate paper there with

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Speaker 1: information on music history, and it looks like a couple

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Speaker 1: Week in Music History. And this has for the week

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Speaker 1: of September twenty second to September twenty eighth.

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Speaker 2: Sorry to interrupt you.

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Speaker 3: You know, the first introduction that you made when I

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Speaker 3: far greater than what you just said. Like, first of all,

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Speaker 3: you were like, there he is, he lives, and he

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Speaker 2: That's right. So Albert Einstein of Classic Rock, thanks.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe Bob will our fearless audio wizard. Maybe he'll

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Speaker 1: the moment and I wouldn't want to be anywhere else, truly.

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Speaker 2: You You, as my mother would say when I was

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Speaker 3: September twenty second through the twenty eighth. The twenty fourth

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Speaker 3: is when Fleetwood Mac released Tusk in seventy nine.

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Speaker 2: This was the follow up to Rumors. This was a

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Speaker 3: I think I'm not sure where you are in terms of,

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Speaker 2: Tusk was great, of course, over and over, was there?

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Speaker 2: Listen. I think when that came.

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Speaker 1: and I don't know what the charts would show or

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Speaker 2: Guess, so you weren't. You weren't really in favor of

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Speaker 1: That was probably the biggest song off of it, I

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Speaker 3: The Beatles released Abby Road in nineteen sixty nine, and

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. It's a masterpiece, it sure is.

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Speaker 2: September twenty second through the twenty eighth.

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