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Speaker 1: New earning their stripes with a special guest. This is

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Speaker 1: Eli Sussman hosting you through the first ets of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: I'm being joined by a former first round draft pick,

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Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen Most Valuable Player for the High A

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Speaker 1: Jupiter Hammerheads, the reigning Marlins Ping Pong tournament champ, and

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Speaker 1: arguably the best left handed pitching prospects in the fish

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Speaker 1: Farm system. It's Braxton Garrett. How's it going, Champ? Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys for having me. I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: Just to start off, I think everybody's wondering what this

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Speaker 1: offseason has been like for you. Last year, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and six and two thirds endings pitched. You finished up

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Speaker 1: with your debut at Double A Jacksonville in late August.

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Speaker 1: They came down to South Florida in September for the

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Speaker 1: Instructional League and to claim that Jupiter MVP award. From

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Speaker 1: what I can tell, you've stayed in South Florida for

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Speaker 1: part of the winter, right, So what can you tell

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Speaker 1: me the training that you've done since last season ended?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So yeah, I have a place of my own

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Speaker 2: now in Palm Be's gardens. I've just grown to absolutely

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Speaker 2: love this place.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I the weather in South Florida is incredible and the

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Speaker 2: gym that I work out at is called Cressey Sports

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Speaker 2: Performance and I love it there. Me and Eric Cressey

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Speaker 2: go way back since I was since I played two USA,

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Speaker 2: so a lot of pro guys go there. So I've

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Speaker 2: been working really hard. I'm really looking forward to next season.

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Speaker 2: This season coming up, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, after the New Year starts, so we start calling

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Speaker 1: it this season. That's where you're yeah, I know any time.

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Speaker 1: We're getting real close. And so how much is that

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Speaker 1: a balance between you know, working out and getting stronger

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Speaker 1: just usual gym stuff versus your throwing, Like how far

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Speaker 2: I'm in the middle of it. You know, there's a

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Speaker 2: happy medium between you know, the weight room and throwing

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Speaker 2: as well. So you know that's monitored as well by

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Speaker 2: the guys who I work with. And you know, right now,

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Speaker 2: I'm really trying to ramp up for the season. You know,

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Speaker 2: spring training is that I'm excuse me a month, so

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Speaker 2: you know, as I am still lifting weights, but I'm

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Speaker 2: starting to deload just a little bit since we're getting close.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, And it must have been one of the highlights

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Speaker 1: for you last spring during the ping Pong tournament, which

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Speaker 1: was just a big event at all of Marlin's camp,

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Speaker 1: both on the minor league side and the major league side,

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Speaker 1: and you surprised a lot of people to take that championship.

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Speaker 1: How much ping pong do you play over the offseason.

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Speaker 1: Are you just going to like try to figure it

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Speaker 1: all out once you get to the table again, or

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Speaker 1: have you actually been training for it.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a little insight. Actually, I was talking

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Speaker 2: to BJ Lopez, a catcher who I worked with a

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Speaker 2: little bit this past year. He was asking about the

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Speaker 2: tournament coming up, and I told him I was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to play. I haven't played all off season.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to play until spring training. So I

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Speaker 2: told him if he really wanted to win it, that

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Speaker 2: might be his year. But I've played Bj many times.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's got a chance. But as you

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Speaker 2: as you asked, I've been playing ping pong for a

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Speaker 2: long time, really since I was probably nine or ten,

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Speaker 2: so you can imagine I'm really excited for the tournament.

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Speaker 2: It's just kind of been a hidden talent of mine

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Speaker 2: my whole life. You know, my friends from elementary school

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm really glad you brought up BJ because I

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Speaker 1: was gonna ask specifically about him and Nick Fortes Lea,

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Speaker 1: because last year you had that great season with Juper,

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Speaker 1: you performed pretty well, but of course all that success

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Speaker 2: So, as you said, yeah, the catcher position is really underrated,

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Speaker 2: Because they they win a strike, sometimes they will will

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Speaker 1: We're talking with Braxton Garrett here on earning their stripes.

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Speaker 1: Kind of on a related note to that, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you've seen that there are some steps being taken, not

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Speaker 1: not immediately, but probably in the near future to introducing

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Speaker 1: robo umpires to minor league baseball. Someday, maybe even Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball having an automatic strike zone, and it just

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Speaker 1: could be a pretty important part of the catcher's job.

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Speaker 1: It's an important part of your job to you know,

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Speaker 1: get called strikes on those borderline pitches. I mean, as

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Speaker 1: I still had your opinion on that as a pitcher,

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Speaker 1: whether you think that would help you or hurt you,

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Speaker 1: whether just generally you think that's good or bad development

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Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I don't think much about it,

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Speaker 2: I'm still gonna have to do my job, and it'll

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Speaker 2: be the same thing to me. I'll just have to

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Speaker 1: Guy, gotcha. One other teammate I wanted to touch on

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Speaker 1: is your fellow left hander Will Stewart. He was the

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Speaker 1: very first guest that we had on this particular show

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Speaker 1: last April, right when he was starting his season with

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Speaker 1: the Hammerheads. He's from Alabama, just like you, and he

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Speaker 1: But now that he has been your teammate, he admits

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Speaker 1: he was all wrong about you. He really likes you now.

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Speaker 1: Do you have to do you have any memories of

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Speaker 1: Will you even notice him back then or at least

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Speaker 1: did you remember facing a Hazel Green High school back

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? I remember facing Will. It was my junior year,

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Speaker 2: his senior year. Unfortunately, well this is going to kind

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Speaker 2: But I do remember them speaking of Will how he

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Speaker 2: him personally, right, But it's funny when I you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to get more information about that sweet

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Speaker 1: baby of yours, that curveball that has been like really

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Speaker 1: defining strength of your game, dating all the way back

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Speaker 1: to when you're a draft prospect. People got a good

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Speaker 1: to Jupiter, better better video quality. People are really excited

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Speaker 1: about that pitch. It's always jumped out as being a

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Speaker 1: And could you just take us all the way back

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Speaker 1: to when you learned it originally from your dad, and

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Speaker 1: just what you think is the secret that makes it

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Speaker 1: all so successful for you, because so many pitchers throw

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, so I give all you know. Obviously, I

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Speaker 2: So at that time, it was really just a big

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Speaker 2: So that's really the main thing. I keep my the stiff.

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Speaker 2: of a feel thing. But when I throw the guys

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Speaker 1: That you're coming off this season at the high A level,

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Speaker 1: you faced a lot of competition that was older than you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how have you made any adjustments with that pitch?

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Speaker 1: You find that it's still as effective as it always been?

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Speaker 1: you originally learned it? And are you using it like

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Speaker 1: in the same situations that you always have. Do you

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Speaker 1: throw it as often overall? Or do you feel that

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Speaker 1: you have to now mix in more pitches in order

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Speaker 2: I definitely cannot throw it as often as I did

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Speaker 2: But now, you know, people use the term getting me

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Speaker 2: over curveball. I mean my room I always joked about it.

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Speaker 2: But that's funny you say that. We were talking about

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Speaker 2: And I was talking talking about that with one of

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Speaker 2: He was like, Dude, you and Jordan are one of

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Speaker 2: I to be honest with you, I love where we're

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Speaker 2: The discipline is up and it's you know, that's just

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Speaker 2: I got guys that I'm competing hard with. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we have pictures on deck.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, right, very well said Well said he. We

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Speaker 2: I'm a big believer, and competition brings out the best

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Speaker 2: I'm watching these guys. I got to watch Cabrera pitch

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Speaker 2: this year in Hi, Are you kidding me? That was

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Speaker 2: a pleasure. And you know, then I go up to

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Speaker 1: Studs exactly well, said Braxton Garrett, Marlin's left handed pitcher.

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Speaker 1: Less than one month till the start spring training, less

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Speaker 1: gonna be really excited to follow you every step of

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Speaker 1: the way. It was a great twenty nineteen season for you.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty could be even better. Thanks a lot braxing

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Speaker 1: and best of luck here in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for having me.