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Speaker 2: To the fifteen of the ten, Berry's Gonna score touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Swam to the ground by Budda Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. Connor to the ten,

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Speaker 2: to the five and end of the end zone of

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Speaker 2: Here we go, one hand to catch it a touchdown?

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Speaker 3: Oh baby, how's that film?

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu, Paul Calvici, and two time pro bowler

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander.

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Speaker 4: Well, it was not good on Sunday, gentlemen. Any new face, offense, defense,

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Speaker 4: special teams. Things were just off. As a result, the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals lost the Rams again thirty seven to fourteen to

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Speaker 4: drop to two and ten heading into the month of December.

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Speaker 4: As we say, welcome to this week's edition of the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals RedSea Reports. So you played a lot of football,

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Speaker 4: every part of a game in which things didn't feel right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, plenty of them. I've been on a couple of

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Speaker 5: butt whoopings on the wrong end of them. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I was in Washington in two thousand and seven Patriots

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Speaker 5: with Randy Moss.

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Speaker 6: I think they would they put up on us. It

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Speaker 6: was like fifty to seven.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've been a part of some games, Eagles,

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Speaker 5: Monday Night Football, Michael Vick, you know, first played the

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Speaker 5: game shot to d Jack and they never looked back.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've been on a bad end of a

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Speaker 5: couple of games, and it's it's really hard to kind

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Speaker 5: of get out of those, especially if no one's making

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Speaker 5: that play to kind of re energize, and even if

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Speaker 5: it does, can you sustain it? And so it's it's unfortunate.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes you just don't have it collectively. You have those

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Speaker 5: type of games. But this team was in and at

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Speaker 5: the half time, you know Mark and then it just

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Speaker 5: just got away from him from whatever reason, just couldn't

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Speaker 5: find a way to stop, to run and make an

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Speaker 5: essential playing offense to kind of get everybody going.

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Speaker 7: See last Tuesday when I said Shoa Hans, who's sick

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Speaker 7: and tired of Sean McVay, and you guys all looked

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Speaker 7: at me side eyed. You know, now maybe you're with me. Okay,

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Speaker 7: we're not thoroughly sick of Sean McVay at this point

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Speaker 7: four different head coaches. Oh my goodness, he's always got

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Speaker 7: something in store to come out and run for two

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Speaker 7: twenty eight, though, that was that really had nothing to

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Speaker 7: do as much with Sean McVay as the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 7: especially since they knew it was coming the exact same

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Speaker 7: run game they saw in the second half of Week six,

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Speaker 7: including the crack toss and here it comes, whether it was,

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Speaker 7: whether you know, and even when Royce Freeman got out

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Speaker 7: there are two hundred and forty pounds he was laying

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean the run game, you know, just that

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Speaker 5: you know, if you go back to the Denver Broncos

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Speaker 5: runs game, it's really it's really hard to stop. I

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Speaker 5: mean right, because if you think about where the derivative

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Speaker 5: it comes from. When Mike Shanahan had a thousand yard

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Speaker 5: back every single season, right, didn't matter who it was,

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Speaker 5: plug and play. No people knew it was coming, but

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Speaker 5: couldn't stop it, right, And you have all these evolutionary

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Speaker 5: components to it that Kyle has put on it. That

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Speaker 5: really hard to stop because everything looks the same. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they was running crack toss, cracked toss one time, Buddha

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Speaker 5: Baker is trying to play the cracked toss and they

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Speaker 5: cut it up inside and the guy nearly hits his

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Speaker 5: You have to be extremely disciplined. I think one of

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Speaker 5: the biggest things that hurt them in this run game

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Speaker 5: at which you can see it Rear's ugly head. At

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Speaker 5: different points throughout the season, the defensive line is playing

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Speaker 5: too lateral right and that's what the offense wants you

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Speaker 5: pointed to the sideline. If you're doing that, I don't

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Speaker 5: care who's playing behind you. And I think obviously not

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Speaker 5: They didn't penetrate trade enough to make the running back

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Speaker 5: it was, you know, pretty much lights out after that.

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Speaker 4: No Kevin Strong as wal Jonathan Ledbetter banged up on

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Speaker 4: And then offensively, after the first drive, Paul, there was

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Speaker 7: I mean, if you're asking me what's the most confounding

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Speaker 7: thing from that loss against the Rams, it was James

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Speaker 7: what happened there? It was still a two possession game

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Speaker 7: mid to late third quarter. There was no reason to

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Speaker 7: With the Dams did to you with that run game,

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Speaker 7: I thought the Cardinals were equally as capable of doing

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Speaker 7: of that sort of physical run game. Yes, they have

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Speaker 7: Aaron Donald, but they've run against Aaron Donald before. So

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Speaker 7: that was Yeah, that was perplexing in a lot of

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Speaker 7: different ways. Where was Kyler undersenter after the first drive?

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Speaker 7: Where was James Connor?

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Speaker 4: Connor carried the ball four times for twenty three yards

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Speaker 4: on that opening drive, just two rushing attempts after the

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Speaker 4: as x's and o's that bothered the head coach, Jonathan

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Speaker 4: Gannon pointed to something.

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Speaker 8: Else not good enough obviously today felt like we didn't

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Speaker 8: solely on me when you get beat like that, We

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Speaker 8: got to take a good hard look of how we're

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Speaker 8: setting up the week because it really wasn't competitive in

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Speaker 8: So got to put together a better plan going in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: The head coach'll also use the word deflated when talking

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Speaker 4: And he put it on his shoulders. The players put

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Speaker 4: what do you do this week to make sure it

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Speaker 4: doesn't become a repeat performance.

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Speaker 5: It just comes down as a player executing. It's not

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Speaker 5: always try to put it on themselves and what can

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Speaker 5: I think some of it is right. They haven't had

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Speaker 5: a buy a week. It's a long season coming off

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Speaker 5: of Thanksgiving. You know, players of people too, and we

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Speaker 5: Thanksgiving and late seasons. People beat up and it was

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Speaker 5: just one of those games. But you have to be

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Speaker 6: And out of that.

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Speaker 5: And no one on either side of the ball really

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Speaker 6: As far as running over people getting up excited, he should.

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Speaker 5: Have been tackled Donald a big game, right, Yeah, So

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Speaker 5: some of those things, you know, where that guy that

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Speaker 5: may have gotten that offense going the team going, but

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Speaker 5: players have to step up. I didn't think the offensive

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Speaker 5: at the game, both teams had opportunities, and the Rams

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Speaker 5: offensive line executed better, especially on some of the deeper

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Speaker 5: did Kyle have a great game, No, But he has

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Speaker 5: to have right quarterbacks get all this love, but they

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Speaker 5: got to have people around the.

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Speaker 6: Most dependent people on the field.

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Speaker 5: People got to get open, people got to block, keep

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Speaker 5: at a high level. Now, the great ones were able

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Speaker 5: to overcome some of that, but Kyler's still coming off

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Speaker 7: In terms of Jonathan Gannon saying the Cardinals didn't match

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Speaker 7: the game, before kickoff, it was awful quiet down on

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Speaker 7: You know, there was that game at Detroit a year

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Speaker 7: a game against Carolina a couple of years ago. You know,

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Speaker 7: they're just those games where the team is flat and

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Speaker 7: sure enough the Rams come out and they go nine

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Speaker 7: I would you know, the alert was on down on

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Speaker 7: take the lead eight to seven. I'm thinking, all right,

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Speaker 7: It was at twenty four to eight, and there was

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Speaker 6: Words only mean so much.

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Speaker 4: You gotta have some action out there, and unfortunately not

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Speaker 4: enough action by that offense. Just two hundred and ninety

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Speaker 2: Wasn't good.

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Speaker 9: Football wasn't good. Football, didn't execute. You know, they got

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Speaker 9: the better of us. We just got our ass kicked.

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Speaker 9: I mean that was played a good football game last week.

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Speaker 9: You know, won the week before, but this one was

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Speaker 9: you know, it's probably like first time all year. We

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Speaker 9: just got beat, you know, terribly. So U got a

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Speaker 9: flushy to move on. Got a good pittsfordt Sewer team.

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Speaker 4: Next week thirty seven, fourteen, the final Sunday at State

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Speaker 4: Farm Stadium. More postgame than this is from postgame on

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Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. The postgame guest of you

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Speaker 4: Paul was Dennis Gardak. I thought he had some interesting

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Speaker 4: In addition to the Rams.

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Speaker 10: You know, our sports psychologists hit us in the offseason

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Speaker 4: Dennessee Gardak following the Cardinals loss on Sundays at fair Zell.

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Speaker 5: That's why you always coaches are always talking about are

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Speaker 6: And I've also been around guys where.

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Speaker 4: And now the question is how does this team respond

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Speaker 7: And by the way, the Cardinals recently had their own

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Speaker 6: As for this trip.

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Speaker 7: Whatever you want to call it. It was an effort,

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Speaker 7: That's one thing that I am expecting to return. I

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Speaker 6: Now it makes sense.

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Speaker 5: But if you're getting your butt whooped every play, I'm

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Speaker 7: They want to be the one way to motivate in

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Speaker 7: the NFL job security. So maybe there's another Marco Wilson

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Speaker 4: When we return that offense and the lack of rhythm offensively,

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Speaker 2: A third and goal from the RAM two snapped to

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Speaker 3: Well where it is again straight McBride out in front

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Speaker 4: A touchdown run. A touchdown toss from Kyler Murray that

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Speaker 4: Rams thirty seven to fourteen. As we say, welcome back,

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Speaker 4: it is the Cardinals Red Seat Report presented by SeatGeek

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Speaker 4: your ticket to great Seats, Craig Reya, lu Paul Calvic,

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Speaker 4: and Lorenzo Alexander. As we look back at what happened,

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Speaker 4: And when you don't sustain drives, you don't have enough

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, he needs to be primary number one. He's

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Speaker 6: Now, it would be interesting to know.

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Speaker 5: Right, because that first drive was twelve plays, right, you

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Speaker 5: Because it got really disorganized in the sense of you

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Speaker 7: Right, So on cover two yesterday Green and I were

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Speaker 7: But you saw Stafford react to a lot of what

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Speaker 7: Because to me, after the opening possession. It looked a

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Speaker 7: especially on some of those third and short, fourth and short,

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Speaker 7: love to see the Cardinals under center because it just

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Speaker 7: presents so much more to think about for the front seven.

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Speaker 4: Head coach Jonathan again and looking back at what did

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Speaker 4: not happen between the opening possession as far as the offense,

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Speaker 4: where was that rhythm.

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Speaker 8: We got to get in rhythm and get some first

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Speaker 8: stuns and so he can sustain drives and we can

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Speaker 8: get plays off that are good, that accentuate our guys,

447
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Speaker 8: you know. So it's hard when you're going three and

448
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Speaker 8: out and then the scoreboards ticking on the other side.

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Speaker 8: You know, that's deflating. So we just got to find

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Speaker 8: a better balance of getting in rhythm with the running

451
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Speaker 8: pass game and making sure that we're staying on the

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Speaker 8: field a little bit to give ourselves a chance to

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Speaker 8: score points.

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Speaker 7: Look, talking to some of the coaches after this game,

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Speaker 7: I don't think a like I said earlier, you're going

456
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Speaker 7: to see a lack of fight going forward. I think

457
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Speaker 7: that message was sent in very stern fashion, and I

458
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Speaker 7: don't think they're going to go away from James Connor again.

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Speaker 7: Unlike what happened only two carries after that opening drive.

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Speaker 7: I think that was considered a mistake and that's something

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Speaker 7: that will be corrected over these last five games.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's also hope that Kyler Murray can correct some

463
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Speaker 4: of the things that have not gone well for him.

464
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Speaker 4: The last two weeks. Yet at the same time, the

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Speaker 4: numbers don't look good on Sunday, But postgame, Kyler Murray

466
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Speaker 4: staying positive.

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Speaker 9: Staying positive, Stay positive. This is my third game, seventh

468
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Speaker 9: week of practice. There's obviously growing pains with this. You know,

469
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Speaker 9: it's a new scheme. Knew everything for me, So I'm

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Speaker 9: not discouraged at all by it. You know, I know

471
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Speaker 9: we'll be better because of it. But you know, these

472
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Speaker 9: are some of the things that we got to go

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Speaker 9: through as part of it.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I think a lot of us forget about.

475
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Speaker 4: It's week three for Kyler Murray, it's week twelve for

476
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Speaker 4: everyone else. And everyone else had a full offseason, Kyler

477
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Speaker 4: did not as far as learning this offense. As far

478
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Speaker 4: as executing the offense. It's one thing to look at

479
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Speaker 4: it on the film or in the classroom, another thing

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Speaker 4: to do it on the football field. And we were spoiled.

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Speaker 4: So that first game against the Falcons. It's just been

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Speaker 4: a trickle down since that game.

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Speaker 5: Right, And I think, you know, in my mind, I

484
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Speaker 5: thought something like this may happen, right because when he

485
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Speaker 5: first comes back, you don't know who is he in

486
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Speaker 5: this offense?

487
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Speaker 6: What do they like to do in this offense.

488
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Speaker 5: And obviously Atlanta's not world beaters either, and so that

489
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Speaker 5: was great that he was able to come out and

490
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Speaker 5: be successful. But as you play more games, right, people

491
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Speaker 5: have a better understanding of how you'll be used and

492
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Speaker 5: what the offensive cornerator likes in these situations with Kyler

493
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Speaker 5: Murray as a quarterback, and then you can start scheming

494
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Speaker 5: things up right because he has certain weaknesses or tendencies

495
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Speaker 5: or whatever that start are able to be identified. And

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Speaker 5: for example, on the defensive side of the ball, I

497
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Speaker 5: thought they did a great job of hiding. Were they

498
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Speaker 5: too high? Two safeties high or a single high? And

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Speaker 5: they did a really good job of hiding, And I

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Speaker 5: think that also confused. I mean, that was really the

501
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Speaker 5: first time as I watched the All twenty two going back,

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Speaker 5: that people did a good job of disguising what they

503
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Speaker 5: were looking at. And that really hell made him, oh,

504
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Speaker 5: I can't go there, or or he may have went

505
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Speaker 5: there and it got broken up because they showed him

506
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Speaker 5: one thing before a pre snap in something completely different

507
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Speaker 5: posts that which I think he struggled with throughout the game.

508
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Speaker 5: And so those are things right as he stays positive

509
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Speaker 5: that he wants to grow in and as he's snapping

510
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Speaker 5: the ball being okay, they're going to too high. Okay,

511
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Speaker 5: So instead of going to the left, where I may

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Speaker 5: have a single high beat, I'm gonna go to the

513
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Speaker 5: right now because that's where my two high beater is

514
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Speaker 5: and has to work through that progression, I think a

515
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Speaker 5: little bit better as he continues to get more reps.

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Speaker 7: Another astute observation by Zoe, because what we talk about

517
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Speaker 7: uncovered two yesterday Craig, there were ten pass deflections by

518
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Speaker 7: the Rams, ten of them. I mean, that's imortantly high, right,

519
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Speaker 7: and so they were getting in the passing lanes and

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Speaker 7: or the throws were a little late, and so okay,

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Speaker 7: if he's, you know, trying to process and calculate what

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Speaker 7: am I seeing, where am I going? And then the

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Speaker 7: balls getting out just a little bit late, that's all

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Speaker 7: these dbs needing the NFL to get their hands in

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Speaker 7: there and break up a pass.

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Speaker 4: And then the decision making I e the fourth and

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Speaker 4: two you go for Trey McBride, And again I don't

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Speaker 4: mind the decision going forward, it's the execution because McBride

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Speaker 4: was covered. Well, the throw was late, but you had

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Speaker 4: Ron Dell Moore underneath Kyler could have run for the

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Speaker 4: first down there, and now all of a sudden, you're

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Speaker 4: getting that first down, you're extending to drive down three

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Speaker 4: more plays to kind of get that back and rhythm.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's hard for me the second guest. Guys, right,

535
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Speaker 5: we're looking at it, we see the big view. And

536
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Speaker 5: so in my mind, I always tell my players there's

537
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Speaker 5: no bad decision. There's better decisions, right, and you have

538
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Speaker 5: to learn that over time and get a feel for it.

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Speaker 5: Because it is his third game back, even though he's

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Speaker 5: played a lot longer than that. In this moment, all right,

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Speaker 5: I didn't make the right the best decision. I'm going

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Speaker 5: to my guy that i've trusted. Right, if that's Larry Fitzgerald,

543
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Speaker 5: hey go to. I don't care who else is open, right,

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Speaker 5: And that's who McBride. Not that he's Larry Fitzgerald, but

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Speaker 5: over the last couple of games he's been his safety net.

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Speaker 5: He's made plays for him that seven route where he

547
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Speaker 5: pushes a guy back and comes back and catches it right,

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Speaker 5: And so he's gaining trust with a guy and so

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Speaker 5: as it would be always hard for me as a player,

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Speaker 5: and if I got a great chemistry with someone, and

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Speaker 5: he's been making plays that I'm not looking for him,

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Speaker 5: and that's what he was doing on that play.

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Speaker 7: All right, here's a hot take, because you guys need

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Speaker 7: a hot take. Could this game have been all about

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Speaker 7: Kyler from the pocket? Could Kyler himself started this game

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Speaker 7: and said I want to prove I can be a

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Speaker 7: defense from the pocket. We didn't see a whole bunch

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Speaker 7: of him. He only ran at once. Didn't see a

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Speaker 7: lot of whole half rolls moving the pocket, waggles boots.

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Speaker 7: We didn't see a whole bunch of that. We saw

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Speaker 7: Kyler operating from the pocket. We know we could do

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Speaker 7: everything else. If there's one question left in his game,

563
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Speaker 7: can he be a pocket quarterback and beat you consistently?

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Speaker 7: I wonder if either himself or the coaching staff has

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Speaker 7: tasked him with that trying to check that box.

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Speaker 4: Forty five pass attempts though way too many for Kyler

567
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Speaker 4: or any quarterback. You need to be a little bit

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Speaker 4: more balanced. Cardinals were not balanced. On Sunday, Hey make

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Speaker 4: sure you catch Cardinals game plan. Fridays six point thirty

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Speaker 4: on twelve News, the exclusive conversation with head coach Jonathan Gannon,

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Speaker 4: and much much more. This is the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: First out of the Rams on the Cardinal twenty three,

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Speaker 2: Stafford pitches it to Freeman running to the right, gets

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Speaker 2: hit at the twenty, but keeps his feet, breaks a

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Speaker 2: tackle and is inside the ten inside the five touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Sloppy tackling Freeman pinballing off of Cardinals and into the

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Speaker 2: end zone for twenty three yards out and it is

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Speaker 2: thirty seven to eight.

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Speaker 4: That might have been the most disappointing aspects of Sunday's game. Defensively,

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Speaker 4: you knew the Rams were going to run the ball,

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Speaker 4: they ran it so well against you in Week six,

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Speaker 4: and you still couldn't stop it. As we say welcome back,

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Speaker 4: it is the Cardinals Red Seat Report presented by seakiek

584
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Speaker 4: your Ticket to great Seats, Creig rayelupal CALVC and Lorenzo Alexander.

585
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Speaker 4: The Rams rushed for two hundred and twenty eight yards.

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Speaker 4: Kyn Williams had a bulk of that with one hundred

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Speaker 4: and forty three yards on the ground, and head coach

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon lamented the explosive run though the number of

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Speaker 4: runs beyond ten yards and you hear that Freeman touchdown

590
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Speaker 4: that was twenty three yards. But Cardinals just could never

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Speaker 4: really get a grasp on stopping what the Rams were doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and it was unfortunate.

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Speaker 5: And for me when I watch a football game, it

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Speaker 5: was never effort right. It wasn't people, you know, just

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Speaker 5: kind of laying down, you know, turning turning blocks down,

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Speaker 5: or turning tackles down. It was really a lack of

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Speaker 5: executing fundamental techniques. And it was at every single level

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Speaker 5: when I watched this game, and again, if you ever

599
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Speaker 5: want to stop a zone running team, there's a couple

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Speaker 5: of things. First, your D line has to be aggressive.

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Speaker 5: They have to be penetrators. You have to be on

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Speaker 5: their side of the line of scrimmage, dictating to that

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Speaker 5: running back when and how they're gonna make their cuts.

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Speaker 5: And they didn't do that. Several linemen multiple times trying

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Speaker 5: to fight two guys at the same time. When you

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Speaker 5: play D line, you gotta have your key guard. Are

607
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Speaker 5: you taking your hands to the tack You can't be

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Speaker 5: trying to fight both. When that happens, your body gets

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Speaker 5: turned you facing the sideline. Most running backs, if they

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Speaker 5: got any salt to them, they got they pickings and

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Speaker 5: you're gonna have four or five yard games. Second level

612
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Speaker 5: right linebacker play gotta have great eyes, you gotta come

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Speaker 5: down into your gap and not necessarily running down the

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Speaker 5: middle of guys, and didn't see that consistently. Again, Zaiir

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Speaker 5: not being out there to maybe help correct some of

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Speaker 5: that or even clean up and make some guys who

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00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 5: were wrong right by the way he plays, with his

618
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Speaker 5: veteran leadership and the physicality that he brings, missed that

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Speaker 5: and so guys just weren't in their gap fitting it

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Speaker 5: right right. We talk about it being a puzzle, everybody

621
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Speaker 5: being where they're at, and if a guy's out of theirs,

622
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Speaker 5: you get in his and make him right. And then

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Speaker 5: on the second level, a lot of crack tossed, a

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Speaker 5: lot of just coming down and cracking the n man

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Speaker 5: to make the corners tackle, and they didn't do that well.

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Speaker 5: Corners and safeties coming down this bad technique, bad fundamentals,

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Speaker 5: the way they were closing, and obviously you're playing against

628
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Speaker 5: good players, but consistently throughout the game didn't execute well

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Speaker 5: enough in order to stop this run. And you know,

630
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Speaker 5: as it trickled, it was a drip and it just

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Speaker 5: turned into the damn broke eventually, and they was getting fifteen, five, twenty,

632
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Speaker 5: as you say, and it just was hard for them

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Speaker 5: to stop.

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Speaker 6: So it was every level.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's what he means, you know, collected

636
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Speaker 5: when they talk about getting you butt whooped.

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Speaker 6: Fundamentally they got whooped.

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Speaker 4: Rams averaged almost seven yards of carry on Sunday. Here's

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Speaker 4: the head coach, Jonathan Gennon.

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Speaker 8: I think they had over one hundred yards and explosive runs,

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Speaker 8: not just the total run game, but the you know,

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Speaker 8: just explosive run. So misfit here, bad technique here, you know,

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Speaker 8: bad call here. It's all of us together. It's not

644
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Speaker 8: never one thing. The run defense is all eleven, but

645
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Speaker 8: we got to play better in the run game.

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Speaker 4: Explosive runs of fourteen, twenty four, fifty six and then

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Speaker 4: finally that twenty three yard run by Royce Freeman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, look, the Rams offensive line ain't all that they're

650
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Speaker 7: certainly not that good. Some of that was the Cardinals

651
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Speaker 7: defensive front. In fact, it went't even beyond the Cardinals

652
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Speaker 7: defensive front because your top three tacklers were all dbs.

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Speaker 7: It was Buddha, Baker, Key Troll Clark and Jalen Thompson

654
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Speaker 7: and look at how many solo tackles they had. Buddha

655
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 7: had a half dozen solo tackles, key troll clock at

656
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 7: corner solo tackles, right, Jalen Thompson five have solo tackles.

657
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 7: So you know what that says? The warn eleven hats

658
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 7: to the ball No, and.

659
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: That I think that's by design, right if you if

660
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 5: you think a secondary isn't willing to tackle, and obviously

661
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 5: Buddha and Jalen are uh, but they're trying. They were

662
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 5: trying to make the corners and safeties be on the

663
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 5: same page. You know, gap schemes, which corners in safety

664
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 5: safeties will see it a little bit more because they're

665
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 5: typically in the box, but they don't see it all

666
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 5: the time. So you have guys like receivers going in

667
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 5: motion okay we're in man or in zone and were

668
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 5: bumping it or you running with it.

669
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 11: Uh.

670
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 5: You'll have a receiver outside and a tight end next

671
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 5: to them, and on the snap of the ball, the

672
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 5: receiver will go inside and the tight end blocks out

673
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 5: gap exchanges and so as a dB, and you don't

674
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 5: see a lot of reps of that, you stay outside. Now,

675
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: the gap is inside wide open and the guy's hitting

676
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 5: his head on the goal post, or you got the

677
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 5: Jalen that has to run something down and make a

678
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 5: shoe string tackle to save a touchdown. And that's why

679
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 5: I said Sean McVay did a really excellent job of

680
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 5: just game planning versus team, something he always does, especially

681
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 5: in the run game, making things look the same but

682
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 5: being different, and then also using those little things that

683
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 5: most people won't see, people exchanging blocking assignments that really

684
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 5: can mess out guys who aren't used to shifting gaps

685
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 5: on the run.

686
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 7: And then here comes two hundred and forty pound Roy

687
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 7: s Freeman. Yeah, and when you do get a dB

688
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 7: on a solo tackle, guess what he's breaking that tackle.

689
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

690
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 7: So that was tough to watch, is no doubt about it.

691
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 7: But look if you had zoom out. Cardinals got to

692
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 7: figure this out as a defense because in their division,

693
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 7: both the Rams and the Niners have a similar run scheme.

694
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 7: And what did Christian McCaffrey do way back in Week

695
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 7: four better than five yards of carry? Yeah, and three

696
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 7: rushing touchdowns. It's a problem. It's something in the offseason

697
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 7: they're going to have to figure out.

698
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 5: I want to say Atlanta did something very similar. I

699
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 5: mean with Singletary, right, I mean they struggled with this

700
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 5: all year. If a team can stay with that zone

701
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 5: concepts and it really starts up with front, I think

702
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 5: that's where they're kind of lacking, you know, just that

703
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 5: having that defensive line presence where guys can be penetrators

704
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 5: and dictate to the offensive line push them back versus

705
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 5: being lateral. I think that's where they have to shore

706
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 5: up some things in order to be more efficient in

707
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 5: this zone. Against the zone runnings game.

708
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: The Cardinals did hold Cooper Cup and Poka Nakua to

709
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 4: will combine seven catches for forty five yards. But if

710
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 4: you're running the ball so successfully, it doesn't matter what

711
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 4: your receiving game is. You don't have to rely on

712
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford's arm. You just rely on the legs of

713
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: Kyraen Williams and Royce Freeman. Postgame, Dennis Gardek we heard

714
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 4: from him earlier in the show. What does he want

715
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 4: to see over these next final five games?

716
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 6: Fight? Fight, just desperation.

717
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 10: You know, I'm gonna get whatever I can, I'm gonna

718
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 10: do whatever I can. I'm gonna make my will imposed

719
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 10: on my opponent.

720
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 4: That's what I want to see five games. It's an evaluation.

721
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 4: We always talk about the evaluation of Kyler Murray, these

722
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 4: eight games of his But now, as Jonathan Ledbitter has

723
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 4: talked about several times this season, your record is two

724
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 4: to ten. Okay, who can we now trust for these

725
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 4: final five games? Because if it's not here and you

726
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 4: want to stay in this league, this is the film

727
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: that you watch if you're a general manager or another team.

728
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 8: Yeah.

729
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Barbarian is by far my favorite player. He

730
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 5: reminds me a lot of myself and that's probably why

731
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 5: so I'm biased special teams guy. But the dude always

732
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 5: plays with his hair on fire. And if you don't

733
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 5: want to follow a guy like that, you don't need

734
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 5: to be on this football team because he is a

735
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 5: glue guy, a guy that are playing this league for

736
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 5: twelve fifteen years, even though he is maybe not as

737
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 5: talented as some other people that may be on this roster.

738
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 5: If everybody could play with that fire, right, you got

739
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 5: a couple other guys that do, But if you could

740
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 5: play like that across the board, you would win a

741
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 5: lot of games even though you weren't talented and that's

742
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 5: why they were in a lot of these games early

743
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 5: in the season. But to your point, Greg, as this

744
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 5: season continues to go on, coaches here, coaches across the

745
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 5: league want to see, how do you show up when

746
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 5: you're not going to the playoffs? Right, you don't have

747
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 5: a shot to extend your season. You playing some of

748
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 5: these cold weather games. Are you bringing the juice? Are

749
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 5: you just kind of going through the motions and just

750
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 5: out there and just trying to do your job and

751
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 5: stay in there, right, Because this is really the true

752
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 5: sign of who you are in this organization is really

753
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 5: going to be making some decisions in these last five

754
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 5: as far as it's a guy that we want to

755
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 5: keep around. Is he a Cardinals, he playing our way,

756
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 5: our culture? Is he playing tooth and nails?

757
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 6: He fighting? He physical? Right? Because if you not, I

758
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 6: don't want you.

759
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 5: If you just a front runner for the only time

760
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 5: you're gonna show up is when you know it's cupcakes

761
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 5: and rainbows outside. But if you not showing up right

762
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 5: now in this last five when it's cold, it's hard,

763
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 5: don't really have a shot. I don't want you on

764
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 5: this football team. And I've been a part of teams

765
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 5: like that you'll see good players be released or not

766
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 5: signed back because they don't have that type of fortitude

767
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 5: or character that you need in this league because every

768
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 5: year there's going to be some type of adversity and

769
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 5: you want guys that you know is going to fight

770
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 5: through it.

771
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: One play in particular, and not that Paris Johnson's going anywhere,

772
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 4: He's going to be here long term. But the interception

773
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray now was called back because of a penalty

774
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 4: on Tomlinson, but Paris Johnson ran him down, pushed him

775
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: out of bounds at the one yard line. Yeah, to

776
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 4: avoid the pick six, and at that point the game

777
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: is out of hand. He didn't need to do it

778
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 4: yet what he did, he finished the play.

779
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 5: He's built different, though, I mean, he gonna be in

780
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 5: this league a long time too. Again, when you're around

781
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 5: guys and you see how they interact that that's never

782
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 5: a question in my mind how hard he's going to play,

783
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 5: and they and they know that, we all know that

784
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 5: he's just built different. The guy you don't want to

785
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 5: be as a dude from Pittsburgh. Was his name, was

786
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 5: it Pittsburgh Deontay Thompson.

787
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's.

788
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 6: That is something you do not want to put on film.

789
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 5: A ball is fumbled, you see it, you see a

790
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 5: team running, you just kind of watch it going on.

791
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 7: Especially the week before he got into a sideline skirmish

792
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 7: with Mike Tomlin. He's like he's even still on the team.

793
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously he's one of the premier receivers. But

794
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 7: here comes December football and you got to go to Pittsburgh.

795
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 7: You gotta go to Chicago, you gotta go to Philly exactly,

796
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 7: so you look at over there, he's already got the chills.

797
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 7: You don't want to be the guy who just wants

798
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 7: to get off the field and to get near the

799
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 7: heat blower. You don't want to be that guy, because, hello,

800
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 7: what did this team do last offseason? No allegiances. We

801
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 7: likened it to another Purge movie. So if you ain't

802
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 7: bringing it and you're not putting good film out there,

803
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 7: you won't be around in twenty twenty four.

804
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if you want to get near the heater.

805
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 4: That's where Paul standing. He's not gonna let anyone near

806
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 4: the heater. For those trips to Chicago, Philadelphia and this week.

807
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh, Danny Sirek is gonna ask Chicago, so Danny gets

808
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 7: your mind right for Chicago.

809
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 4: We'll talk about what's ahead this week. A meeting with

810
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 4: the Steelers coming up here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

811
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: Puda Baker. Somebody may get a hat on Booda Baker.

812
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: Put to Baker's a fan? Put to Baker ban man?

813
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: Who to Baker's a bad after Watch it. That's a

814
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: running and hitting everything.

815
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: The Voice Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin raving about Budda Baker,

816
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 4: as does many head coach in the National Football League.

817
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 4: By the way, Mike Tomlins seventeen seasons he has not

818
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 4: had a losing record. I mean that's incredible.

819
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 7: Three letters HF. That is ridiculous, right, I mean he

820
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 7: is first ballot Hall of Fame, no doubt as a

821
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 7: head coach.

822
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's one of those coaches that you I always

823
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 5: wanted to play for. A lot of guys respect him

824
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 5: around the league and always want to play for a

825
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 5: guy like that because you hear about the stories. Obviously

826
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 5: he's hard, nos and all about ball, but just personable, relatable,

827
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 5: cares about you as a man, and you know, just

828
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 5: a guy that you would love to be able to

829
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 5: play for and when you hear that, right, when Booda

830
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 5: hears that. When I heard that from certain coaches around

831
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 5: the league, the respect they have for your game.

832
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 6: First of all, it made me, oh, man, that's cool.

833
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 6: That's cool.

834
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 5: I appreciate that makes you feel all warm inside. I'm

835
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 5: doing something right. Two, I know they're gonna be looking

836
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 5: out for me.

837
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 6: Right.

838
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 5: I know I'm gonna get some crackbacks. I know I'm

839
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 5: gonna get somebody gonna take a shot at me. They

840
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 5: gonna throw the ball deep right because they want to

841
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 5: try me. You know all that love stuff before. So Buddha, right,

842
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 5: watch out because they coming for you one way or

843
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 5: the other. Right, when you get that type of compliment

844
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 5: from the opposing teams head coach.

845
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 7: If I was Buddha Baker, and I'm most definitely not,

846
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 7: I would take that Tomlin compliment. I get it from

847
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 7: Jim on Mahundra and making my ring tone every time

848
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 7: my phone went off, it would be Tomlin because that

849
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 7: is high praise.

850
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 4: Indeed, speaking of Buddha Baker, his message to his teammates,

851
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: not only heading into this week's game, but going.

852
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 11: Forward, continue to compete. You know this game isn't promised

853
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 11: to us. We take it one day at a time

854
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 11: and we just go to work trying to be the

855
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 11: best players that we can beat. It's always about competing.

856
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 11: Our record isn't the way we want it to be,

857
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 11: but we have more opportunities to play football. That's what

858
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 11: we have to do.

859
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 7: You know what, if I'm Buddha and I'm the Cardinals,

860
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 7: I do exactly what Mike Tomlin teams do. Find a way,

861
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 7: just find a way. This last game, this last victory

862
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 7: by the Steelers was the first time all season they

863
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 7: had out gained an opponent. Yet there's seven and four

864
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 7: and they lead the AFC wild card race. They have

865
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 7: found a way despite the fact they've had a a

866
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 7: nept offense at times. You know, Kenny Pikett, who has

867
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 7: what two touchdown passes since Week four. It's remarkable. They

868
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 7: just find a way, right.

869
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, But you know, the Steelers have never been prolific

870
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 5: on offense. They've had some good offensive teams. But when

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Speaker 5: you think about Pittsburgh Steelers, you think about grimy defense, right,

872
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Speaker 5: and being able to run the ball well as well

873
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 5: just being physical Black and Blue division. And then I

874
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Speaker 5: also know the special teams coach up there. I played

875
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Speaker 5: for him for seven years when I was in Washington.

876
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Speaker 5: Danny Smith, Right, they're going to be sound, those special

877
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Speaker 5: teams and find ways to beat you there. So defensively,

878
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Speaker 5: you know, they get you these thirty longs and they

879
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Speaker 5: make you punt the ball and they get the ball

880
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Speaker 5: at the fifteen. They don't have to do too much work,

881
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 5: and so I think they play great, complimentary football over

882
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 5: the period of time Mike Tomlin has been there. And

883
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Speaker 5: then you think about the culture and really the Steelers'

884
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 5: way and what he has created. Not having a losing

885
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 5: season in those seventeen years, he's doing something right, right,

886
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Speaker 5: He's bringing in people that embody that and will get

887
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 5: you out of there if you're not living up to that.

888
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 5: And so I think obviously that's something they're trying to

889
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 5: develop here. Identify those type of guys that want to

890
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 5: do with the Cardinals way, that want to be here,

891
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 5: that's going to be physical, that's going to fight regardless

892
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 5: of what the prize is, you know, whether it's the playoffs,

893
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Speaker 5: so you just have an opportunity to play football today,

894
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 5: you're gonna treat it the same type of way.

895
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 4: Steelers have won three or four coming off a road

896
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 4: win at Cincinnati sixteen to ten. You talk about the

897
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Speaker 4: Steelers in their defense, but it's that ultimate bend. But

898
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Speaker 4: don't break, because they are twenty fifth in total yards,

899
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 4: but they have the fifth best red zone defense and

900
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 4: only allow less than nineteen points a game.

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Speaker 6: Right, And that's what we talked about. Right. There's always

902
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 6: you know, these.

903
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Speaker 5: Stats that create your rankings, and you know whether that's

904
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 5: yards gained or yards giving up, right, But those really

905
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 5: aren't the metrics that most defenses use to see whether

906
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 5: or not you're gonna win the game or if you're

907
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 5: playing good defense. Right, So you just mentioned the main

908
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 5: one is red zone, Right, am I making people kick

909
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 5: field goals? If I'm making you kickfield goals, I'm giving

910
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 5: our team an opportunity to win games. We talk about turnovers,

911
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 5: getting the ball turned over, so i may give it up,

912
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Speaker 5: but in the red zone, I'm picking you off or

913
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 5: whatever that may look like. Third downs is another big one, right,

914
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 5: And so those are the type of areas that you

915
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 5: look to win two minute areas. And so if I'm

916
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Speaker 5: pretty sure if we dive deep into some of those

917
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Speaker 5: subsets of areas as you mentioned, you'll see the Pittsburgh

918
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Speaker 5: Stellers are probably either at the towards the top or

919
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 5: probably in the middle because they, you know, they are

920
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 5: finding ways to win games.

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Speaker 7: And you know what, the Steelers defense has not done.

922
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 7: It hasn't felt sorry for itself. Because the Steelers offense

923
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 7: just snapped a streak of fifty eight games without gaining

924
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 7: four hundred total yards in a game. Think about that.

925
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Speaker 7: I mean, this has been a defense first team for

926
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Speaker 7: a long time. Yeah, and you don't see the defense going,

927
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 7: oh geez, the offense isn't carrying them away. We're not

928
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 7: gonna bring it today. No, that's that's not the mentality

929
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 7: in Pittsburgh. The defense is consistently good. And of course

930
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 7: it helps to have a TJ.

931
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Speaker 4: Watt who has thirteen and a half sacks, twelve tackles

932
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 4: for lost, six passes defense and by the way, he

933
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 4: has an interception as well. And when you are in

934
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Speaker 4: the company of a Reggie White. The only two players

935
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Speaker 4: in the National Football League with at least thirteen sacks

936
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Speaker 4: in five of their first seven seasons and ninety or

937
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 4: more sacks over their first one hundred career games, only

938
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Speaker 4: two Reggie White and TJ.

939
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Speaker 3: Watt.

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Speaker 6: It's impressive.

941
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Speaker 5: I mean, I've I've had a chance to watch him

942
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Speaker 5: a couple of times playing on the field and off

943
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 5: the field, and the dude is a dominant guy, one

944
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Speaker 5: of those guys that are obviously going to be a

945
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 5: future Hall of Famer and can wreck games, takeover games,

946
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Speaker 5: and always shows up in those prime time possessions and

947
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 5: plays where you need your stars to step up.

948
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Speaker 7: And they've played mainly at least the last month or

949
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Speaker 7: so without Minka Fitzpatrick, one of the best safeties in

950
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 7: the game. They've figured out a way to get it

951
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 7: done without Minka Fitzpatrick. And then they just made their

952
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 7: first in season coaching change of any sort since World

953
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Speaker 7: War Two. The Steeler is always to be very consistent

954
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Speaker 7: and loyal and they rarely rarely make any sort of

955
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Speaker 7: firings of coaches, either coordinators or head coach. So they

956
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Speaker 7: can Matt Canada and that's the first time they did

957
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Speaker 7: that in season since nineteen forty one.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Cardinals and Steelers eleven AM on Sunday six thirty.

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Speaker 4: Pregame coverage begins here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Steelers,

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Speaker 4: as we mentioned seven and four on this season, we'll

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Speaker 4: see Kenny Pickett, the former first round draft pick who

962
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Speaker 4: has Paul mentioned only two touchdowns since what you say,

963
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Speaker 4: week four, He's only four only has not throwing a

964
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Speaker 4: touchdown in the last three games period.

965
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Speaker 7: But he hasn't thrown a pick in the last seven games,

966
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Speaker 7: so he's the ultimate game manager.

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Speaker 4: Right now, we'll see what the Cardinals have in store

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Speaker 4: and then we'll talk about it in one week's time.

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Speaker 4: Here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report special. Thanks behind

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Speaker 4: the scenes, our executive producer Jim Mamahundro, Associate producer Cody Fincher,

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Speaker 4: Technical director Matt Lazarus for Lorenzo Alexander, Paul Calvic, I'm

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Speaker 4: Craig Rayelu. This has been the Cardinals Red Sea Report

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Speaker 4: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Networker.

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Speaker 2: Report fifteen ten to five touchdown zach Ertz foot a

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Speaker 2: Baker with the sack strip the ball, Hurry's gonna score touchdown,

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