1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: We all know that this is pranking season. You know, 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: for Eric, do you have your head on a swivel 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: today or how does it work for you? My computer 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: is locked in, my phones in my pocket at all times. 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: You're definitely always alert. The stakes are always high in 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: the draft because it's such an important part of our organization. 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: We are willing to move back. We've shown that we're 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: willing to move up. One thing we are always ready 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: to do is pick. We don't really target specific players, 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: we really don't. We rank, We rank a hundred and 11 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: seventy guys and we go off the list. It could 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: be six, eight, nine, and eleven are on the list. 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: When we pick a four team, we really want to 14 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: get guys in come in and impact this team sooner 15 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: rather than later. That's the goal. When we pick them, 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: we see a vision for them. Every guy we take 17 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: we expect to contribute this year. Welcome into the lounge today. 18 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: I'm here with Ryan Mink and Cliff they're talking to me, 19 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: Joe Hortiz. It's drafting and we're fired up and this 20 00:00:53,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: is presented by Draft Kings. Get it. Boom shot was great. 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: That was way better than mine. Little haphazard, but you 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: know the first time. We may have to redo it later. 23 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: You can do it and we'll roll with it. But 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: we're keeping that one. That was great. All right, Well, 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: welcome in. We have a very special guest here. It's 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: awesome that we get you a day of the draft. 27 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this is pretty cool. Yeah. You know, I 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: didn't have anything else to do, you know, sit around 29 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: and wait and you know, come down and talk with 30 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, two of my best friends. Garret's not here, 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: so Ryan, you stepped in for him. So so Cliff, 32 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: best friend Cliff. Yeah, Uh, Garrett is out in Vegas. 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: Didn't wake up in time, you know, Vegas health, that'll go. 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: You know, we couldn't get him out of bed. It's 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: where he was feeling a lot of distractions out there. Distractions. 36 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: You know. We couldn't get Garret here shaking his head 37 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: in Vegas. Man. Yeah, we'll just leave it there. Um. 38 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, so we're happy to have you. And um, 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, I guess as as we get close to 40 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: the draft, we all know that this is prankin season. 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: You know. For Eric, you know, the pressure turns up 42 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: and do you have your head on a swivel today 43 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: or how does it work for you. You know, my 44 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: computer is locked in, my phones in my pocket at 45 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: all times. You know, it is pranking season for him. 46 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: You definitely, you know he comes down the hallway people 47 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: like perk up, you know and just your eyes on 48 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: your head on the swivel eyes in all directions. Um, 49 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: but no, it's uh, it's it's it's been that way 50 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: for a while now. Like you in those meetings, I 51 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: sit right next to Eric and I get up to 52 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: get a water and like I literally have to lock 53 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: my computer and grab my phone just to get up 54 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: and go get a water and back in my chair. 55 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: So it's you're definitely always alert, most of us are. 56 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: Sometimes Pat Moriarity falls asleep at the wheel, I was 57 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: gonna say, and he gets got for it. You know. 58 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: So does like, does Pat actually take the precautions at 59 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: this point, because I feel like he's still even though 60 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: you know he's coming for Pat, he's still such an 61 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: easy target. Yeah, So Pat takes precautions in the sense 62 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: that you know, he'll pick up his he'll carry that 63 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: backpack with him everywhere like things that Eric may take, Um, 64 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: but pack it's comfortable in his office and he's back there, 65 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: you know, it's away from everything, and he feels like secure. 66 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: So he may get up and just leave the computer 67 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: open or leave his phone on the desk and just 68 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: not be thinking. And because I think he just gets 69 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: too comfortable and and he ends up, you know, something's 70 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: getting misplaced or disappearing on him. So but there's a 71 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: couple of things that he will carry with them everywhere, 72 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: backpack one of them. All right, all right, So what 73 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: are your nerves like on the day of the draft? Um, 74 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: you know, just excited. Really, you know, I don't think 75 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: it's nerves. I think it's you know, there's a little anxiety. 76 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: You know, you have guys that you hope gets here. Um, 77 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: but the reality of it is, we have to have 78 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: four team players ready to pick today, and so you 79 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: just have to you know, accept the way the drafts 80 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: gonna fall, and uh, you hope your orders right, which 81 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: we believe strongly in our order. And you know we're 82 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: gonna take the best player available when we're there to pick. 83 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: So you just gotta watch. You know, it's fun to watch, 84 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: and you get a little bit more anxious than nerves 85 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 1: start happening, probably around picks nine or ten, I would 86 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: say with us being a fourteen. So um, until then, 87 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: it's just kind of sit back and relax and watch 88 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: how it starts to unfold. And then you start hoping 89 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: a little bit and hoping a guy that you really 90 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: like gets there right now, I know you guys have 91 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: been doing this together for a long time, so in 92 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: a way, does that kind of make it more comfortable? 93 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: Or sometimes even now where eric Osi and they may 94 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: say or do something that that could surprise even you, uh, 95 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: with the draft gets closer to your pick. Yeah, So 96 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: I think with with in terms of being surprised, I 97 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: think you have to be ready for everything, right Like, 98 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: so you know, obviously you guys know that we like 99 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: you know, we are willing to move back. We've been shown, 100 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: we've shown that we're willing to move up, and um, 101 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: so I think you're always ready for anything. Um, this 102 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: one thing we are always ready to do is pick 103 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: and so um I'm surprise wise, no, you know, I think, uh, 104 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: there's some conversations every once in a while about draft picks. Um, 105 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: you know whether we'll trade back or you know what 106 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: picks will get in doing it, But never really surprised 107 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: because I think the process has worked so well for 108 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: the I think this is my draft, I think, or 109 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: maybe it's twenty four. But for all the drafts I've 110 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: been here, the process has worked so well, and it's 111 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: been so organized and clean, and I just you know, 112 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: it's a really it's a really fun and easy kind 113 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: of event and day for us. And uh, you know, 114 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: it's obviously really exciting day for us because it's what 115 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: all our work's been done for the past eleven months. Uh, 116 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: come into a conclusion. So but no, it's nothing. I 117 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't say you're ever really surprised. You're more surprised by 118 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: some of the players that are picked. You know that 119 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: you feel like, wow, they picked him that high. You know, 120 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: that's where more of the surprises coming by what other 121 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: teams do. I guess the only unexpected really, because you're 122 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 1: just picking from the board. The only unexpected is whether 123 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: you're going to make a trade or not. Right like 124 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: a trade offer comes in and and then there because 125 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: you can't discuss I mean, I guess you can discuss 126 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: some ahead of time, but in the moment you have 127 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: to be like, all, right, are we doing it? Are 128 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: we not? Is it? Are they asking for too much 129 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: or not? You know, yeah, and a lot of times 130 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: like if a team, um, you know, if if it's 131 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: if we're interested in moving up, we'll make the calls 132 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: before that team is on the clock. Typically you know, hey, 133 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: we're interested in coming up to your spot. Certainly obviously 134 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: we moved down more than we move up. Um, we 135 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: get phone calls. We may be sitting there and maybe 136 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: pick nine and we may get a phone call from 137 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: someone behind us and saying, hey, you know, if if 138 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: our guy gets to you at four, team, we'd be 139 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: interested in moving up. This is what will offer. So 140 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: we just kind of keep track of him on the board. 141 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: It used to be a white board. Now we uh, 142 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: David McDonald gets it up there on a computer screen 143 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: and or a monitor, and so we can see all 144 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: the offers we've had from multiple teams and kind of 145 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: discuss them and talk through them, and we're really you 146 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: know how if we like that trade, if they're willing 147 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: to do it, we'll do it. You know, we make 148 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: kind of the decision before that momentium comes. It's also 149 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: whether our player, a player that we're targeting, has gotten 150 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: down to us, you know, and if if not if 151 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: and sometimes the trade is too good to even say 152 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: you know, hey, we'll walk away from our guy, you know, 153 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: because we like the guy behind him, the guy behind him, 154 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: the guy behind him. One of those guys will make 155 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: it to us wherever we dropped to. When when you 156 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: say the guy we're targeting, is that usually two to 157 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: three guys? Who who? You say, like, we'd really like 158 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: one of those? How many guys is that? You know? 159 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: We like I said, you have to have fourteen names. 160 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: And when I say the guy we're targeting, what I 161 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: mean is the high when that call comes in, this 162 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: is the highest guy on the list, you know. So 163 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: whether that let's say it's fourteen and it's the six 164 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: highest player on our list, that's that's what we're targeting. 165 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: That's what we're targeting. Um, it could be eight, it 166 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: could be six, eight, nine, and eleven or on the list. 167 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: When we pick at fourteen, we're taking six. Right If 168 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: four of them are there, it's like, well, you know 169 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: what someone wants to move wants us to move back 170 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: to eighteen is is are we getting enough and it's 171 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: worth it and we're still gonna get one of these 172 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 1: four guys? Right right? Um? Yeah, So that's how it works, 173 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: you know. But there's No, we don't really target specific players. 174 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: We really don't. We rank. We rank a hundred and 175 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: seventy guys on our list, and that's how when we 176 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: go off the list, and you know, obviously that may 177 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: change later in the draft if we address a position 178 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: um in the draft and well, this guy is high, 179 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: Well we just took a you know, an offensive lineman, 180 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: or we've taken too offensive lineman already and we're sitting 181 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: there in the sixth round. We're probably not going to 182 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: take a third offensive lineman, you know, right, Yeah, So 183 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: every every draft obviously is huge. Right, that's the building, 184 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: that's the foundation of our organization. Right, is there a 185 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: feeling among the front office that the stakes are even 186 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: higher for this and considering you know, we're coming off 187 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: a playoff exit, being outside the playoffs, we're in division 188 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: that's really really tough with a lot of star power 189 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: right now, and we have our highest pick since Ronnie, 190 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: right since like and and there's a fair amount of 191 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: needs to be filled, not just you know, we okay, 192 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: we need an ADMI immediate contributor, but we need an 193 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: insurance policy here because we have a star player coming 194 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: back from an injury. Like so just do you get 195 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: the feeling. Is there the feeling in the front office 196 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: that the stakes are a little bit ticked up for 197 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: this one? Um? You know, I think the stakes are 198 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: always high in the draft because it's such an important 199 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: part of our organization and we don't want to have 200 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: bad drafts. We want we want to get guys in 201 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: here that no one wants to have a bad draft, 202 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: but we really want to get guys in come in 203 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: and impact this team sooner rather than later. And um, 204 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: like Eric mentioned in the pre draft press conference, every 205 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: guy we take, we expect to contribute this year. Um. 206 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: You know, does that always happen? No, But that's the goal. 207 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: When we pick them, we see a vision for them. 208 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: You know. Certainly not making the playoffs last year was tough, 209 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: and and you know, are we had depth, but we 210 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: really challenged our depth challenged. So you know, you think 211 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: to yourself, like, hey, we we don't have we don't 212 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: have to force ourselves into specific positions and that's the 213 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: beauty of it. So we can just take good players 214 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: because we need depth everywhere, you know, and you're always 215 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: trying to build depth. And I think that's we do 216 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: a really good job at Eric Ozzy has done in 217 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: Eric and and just being able to say, Okay, you know, 218 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: let's that's addressed this now because we haven't addressed it, 219 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: and and add some depth and we find the player 220 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: that we like and um but yeah, I think there's 221 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: pressure in every draft. I really do. And I think 222 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: the pressure has felt not on draft day, it's felt 223 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: in the meetings through the from December on, Like you know, 224 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: when Eric challenges the scouts and and and on is 225 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: this guy raven and what's he gonna do for us? 226 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: And when the coaches come in the questions or Johnald, 227 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: how's it? How are we going to use this guy? 228 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: And um, so I think the questions are asked. I 229 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: think the pressure has felt then, like hey, let's get 230 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: this board right now, um to help us have the 231 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: best draft possible. Now the fourth rounds it stands now 232 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: having five picks, which is that's a lot for any teacher. 233 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: How is that gonna How frantic is that gonna be 234 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 1: if it stays there? And I know you guys always organized, 235 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: but they're just talking us through all the variables that 236 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: could happen. We have that many picks right on top 237 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: of one another. Yeah, it's fun we did it. We 238 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: had five, the other a couple of years ago, right 239 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: and so and then we had one early five right, 240 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: which was I think was that Judah So um, they 241 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: come fast, like there's no like the we have we 242 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: have the we have the list ready, like so our 243 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: list is ready to pick. And so that's the that's 244 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: the easy part, uh, the hard part. And they're spaced 245 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: out enough where you get off the phone call, you 246 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: talk to the owner, the kid talks to you know, 247 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: he talks to Steve. It's like, okay, we're on the 248 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: clock again now, like when so when we have the 249 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: two picks that are separated by one, that's one where 250 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: literally Steve or the you know, Greg or Mike maybe 251 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: on the phone with the player, but by then they 252 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: may walk out, but then we may be taking another 253 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: offensive or defensive guys. So like, but that's one where 254 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: it was just like, okay, be ready for this pick. 255 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: You know, these are the two guys. You know, it's 256 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: almost better. We and I can't remember what year it was. 257 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: When you have back to back picks, that's fun because 258 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: like you don't you have ten minutes to make the 259 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: pick and you try to get ahold of one guy 260 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: and you get ahold of them. Okay, we're picking, and 261 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: but you got the other guy on the phone. Like 262 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: there was one year where I think it was Eric 263 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: and Ozzie we're talking to. It was that year because 264 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: I had Kenneth Dixon on the phone and I can't 265 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: remember who was we picked right in front of Henry. Yeah, 266 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: maybe Willie's you know, so like, but we had them 267 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: both on the phone at the same time, you know, 268 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: so I'm just talking to him while we're you know, 269 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: turning Willie's name in and then past the phone out. 270 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: Both of those guys get an identical rookie contract. Because 271 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: if I'm the guy that's picked on the ladder side 272 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: of that and I get less money, I'm like, what 273 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: the heck? Well, you know it. You know, there's a 274 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: there's a there's a staircase. So he gets the guy 275 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: I had to get a little bit more. Yeah, so, um, 276 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: but now it's it'll be fun. The fourth round will 277 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. Um. Again, Like it's spaced 278 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: out enough minus those two they have really tight together. Um, 279 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: so we have time to reset, you know, watch the 280 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: next couple of picks go off, and then pick the 281 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: next player. But it's it's NonStop, Like I mean, there 282 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: is you pick in the second and then you don't 283 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: pick again until you're picking. You have a break, you know, 284 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: and you just you sit back and watch and there's 285 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: no there's not a lot of urgency in the moment, 286 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, and where this you may have ten eight 287 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: picks between picks and it's just like, okay, we gotta 288 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: be ready the next guy. And here they are and 289 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: maybe a few discussions. Okay, Like again, like I said, 290 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: you take a while out, you take a inside back, 291 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: or you take a tight tight end, linebacker. You know what, 292 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. The next guy on the list may 293 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: be the same position. Really we'll pass him this time, 294 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: keep him alive. But let's take you know, took the 295 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: tight end. Here, let's take the outside back, or here 296 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: take the outside back, or here, let's take the tackle 297 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: here take so there's no you kind of see massage 298 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: to the list a little bit. Yeah, Now, I remember 299 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: the last time we had the five picks in the 300 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: fourth round, Eric said this was gonna make or break 301 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: our draft? Was that fourth round? Did he kind of 302 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: say the same about this one? Like, is there the 303 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: same feeling that man when we look back on this draft, 304 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: especially because a lot of people are saying the quality 305 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: of this draft is really in the middle rounds, and 306 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: that's like what makes it a typical from a different 307 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: year that when fi years down the road, when you 308 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: look back on this draft class, you could say that 309 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: fourth round was the make or break around. Yeah, I 310 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: I guess you can say that. Um, certainly, if you 311 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: get three starters out of the fourth round, it's the 312 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: make right, you know. Um, if you get you know, 313 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: one starter and four contributors and backups you know that 314 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: play on your team and and play snaps, and you know, 315 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: it's hard to say. Um, I think we put we 316 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: put these picks in rounds, right, and we call it around. 317 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: But it's just picks, you know. It's it's the number 318 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: of pick in the draft. So I think you look 319 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: at them like that the rounds. It's cool they have 320 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: five picks in one round, but the reality of it 321 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: is it is just five picks. So, like, are are 322 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: those five picks the most important five picks in the draft? 323 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, fourteen is gonna be pretty the first five, 324 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: the first five picks are pretty damn you know, So 325 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: I think I think if we But I think the 326 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: the idea of, like, so these are picks in the 327 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: fourth or later, if we can now and get three 328 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: starters out of that man, that makes your team better, 329 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: especially when you hit there earlier. Yeah, so yeah, so, like, yes, 330 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: it could make the draft special if we if we 331 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: now it, you know, and if we don't and we 332 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: now the first three picks, four picks ahead of them, 333 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: still it could be pretty special, you know. So like, 334 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: but no, our goal is to hit it, you know. 335 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: And now it's like, I mean, honestly, we want guys. 336 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: There's no doubt. We want guys that everyone loves and 337 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: people in that room love and are passionate about. And 338 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: let's go, let's go pick this guy and and believe 339 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: in them and pour resources into them and make them 340 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: as good a raven as we can. And you know, 341 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: hopefully we get we get some some guys in there, 342 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: and I think we will. What are the chances that 343 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: we make ten picks at the slots that we're in 344 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: right now, all ten of them? What's the percent chance 345 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: on that? I don't know, And I mean, I gotta 346 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: be careful, right then, we don't make any trades. The 347 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: gambling stuff I can't say too much that we are. 348 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: We are sponsored by draft Kings, right, so let's get 349 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: into this percentage. What are the odds? I don't know, No, 350 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, I sure people are gonna call us, you know, 351 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: and we're gonna call people, right. What are the odds? Are? 352 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: Probably low? But you know, you gotta have a buyer 353 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: and you gotta have a seller to make trades. And um, 354 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: so you know, we have ten picks. We'd love to 355 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: have twelve thirteen picks, but you know, if we only 356 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: have nine, we have nine. If we have those ten picks, 357 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna do our best on those tend pics. So um, 358 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'd say, I think to come up with 359 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: the odds, you'd probably have to look at our history 360 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: of how many years were we actually picked the exact 361 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: picks we had. I don't know, I don't know. I 362 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: haven't done at all, but it's I don't think there 363 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: maybe a couple, maybe a couple. Yeah, there's been years 364 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: where we've done it where we haven't and it was like, wow, 365 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: that was weird. We trade once. You know, now, you guys, 366 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: at least the world of buzz with the draft, not 367 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: just with you guys. But overall, it seems to me 368 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of unpredictability at the top this year, 369 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: more than usual. Like some people are saying two quarterbacks 370 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: who go before before teams so much slaying none. So 371 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying maybe three y rec was good going one 372 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: or none? Do you think that's the case, And then 373 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: that add a little more intrigue for what could happen 374 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: with the races of fourteen? Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's 375 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: some you know, some unknowns, right. Um. I think the 376 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: unpredictability comes from not having one or two or three 377 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you can say these three guys, because quarterbacks 378 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: are the easiest guys to marry to. Okay, is the 379 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: best quarterback and draft he's gonna go one overall, and 380 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: then these two teams really need quarterbacks, and these guys 381 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: are also good players, and you know what, they're gonna 382 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: take one, the other one's gonna take together. And he 383 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: kind of married the teams. You know, I'm really hearing 384 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: so and so like you know, like saying, you know, 385 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: with the Chargers, like they really liked Herbert, you know, 386 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: and you know, Miami was really onto, you know, and 387 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: so like, um, so you can marry those picks, so 388 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: that kind of gives some predictability, and then you say, okay, 389 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: this team really you know, with that not being there, 390 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: you're you have thirteen players that are gonna go ahead 391 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: of us, potentially none our quarterbacks. So it's hard to 392 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: predict where they're gonna go. Um, it's it's harder. What 393 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: you can predict is that, Okay, we think this X 394 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: amount of players are going to be gone before we 395 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: pick this. Is that predictability is easy. You know, Um, 396 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: where they go? Who knows? Like the order you don't 397 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: know because you because the teams that need quarterbacks up 398 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: there aren't married any quarterbacks you know up there, so 399 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: it's that's where the you know, so you don't know 400 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: who they're gonna take. And you know, and obviously you're 401 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: picking higher in the draft most years, you're gonna need 402 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: have more needs than some other teams. So, um, anyone 403 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: can be taken. So is it'll be fine just to 404 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: see who they take and their philosophies. Um, but I 405 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: know we'll get a good one at fourteen. You know, 406 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: I don't know what position it will be. I know 407 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: it will be a good player that we all like 408 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: and you're hoping that some teams may trade up in 409 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: front of us to take a quarterback, may move up 410 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: or whatnot. The other position that I think is interesting 411 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: that watches is there a run on wide receivers because 412 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: there's a cluster of them right around where we are, 413 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: if if the mock drafts are to be believed, So 414 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: is that another position that you're kind of looking at. Obviously, 415 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: we've taken two in the first round in the past 416 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: two years, so I don't want to tell you how. 417 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: I would say it's unlikely that we take one of 418 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: the first round again. Um, but like, is that one 419 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: where you're like, all right, if the wide receive, if 420 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: there's a run on wide receivers, that could help the Ravens. Yeah, sure, 421 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: but you know those are good wide receivers too. I 422 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: will say this, and um, you know, the four guys 423 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: that are being mocked up there, they're all really talented players, 424 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't surprise me to see it wouldn't surprise 425 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: me to see a number of them go before we pick. 426 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: It also wouldn't surprise me to see a couple of 427 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: them sitting there when we're picking. I do think that 428 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: the way that a wide receiver market is going right now. 429 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: I think it kind of puts a draft premium on 430 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: wide receivers. Um. I think we'll see that. I think 431 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: this draft will be telling. You know, if if you 432 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: see a large number of wide o'ts go early in 433 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: the first couple of rounds, then I think teams are 434 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: gonna be like, hey, listen, let's get white House because 435 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: whiteouts are starting to become one of the hiking down 436 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: the road. If we trade him, we're going to get 437 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: something great back, or you know, or if our other 438 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: whiteout who's good once thirty million a year, we don't 439 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: have the money to pay him, at least we have 440 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: a guy in the fold. So um, So I think whiteouts. 441 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: I do think white else are going to go more. 442 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: And I think that it's been talked about. Whiteouts are 443 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: being produced much at a much higher level from college 444 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: game and it stems all the way back to high 445 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: school and it's become a passing game and there's all 446 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: these camps and it's all throwing the ball now, and 447 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: so I think white euts are really developing a lot 448 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: further than they have twenty years ago. So Jordan Davis 449 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: is probably the most common mock draft pick for US 450 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: at number fourteen. At this point, just can you give 451 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: your perspective on the giant defensive tackle. Uh, yeah, that 452 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: pretty much sums it up. He's huge. I mean, the 453 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: guy's a big dude. Um. You know he obviously, Uh 454 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: he had a great year or you know for Georgia, 455 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: the collective as a team and individually for him. Um. 456 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know he's physically gifted, talented player. He 457 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: showed that at the Combine. Um. Really good kid. Um 458 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: I've had I've run into him a couple of times 459 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 1: at the combine. Heck, I ran into him at at 460 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: college at Georgia when when I was leaving, I was 461 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: talking to uh, uh who was it? I forget it 462 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: was someone one of the staff members outside on my 463 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: way out and he came walking by. And just a 464 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: really nice kid. Uh and a good player. And you 465 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: know he's obviously a big man nose tackle. You know. 466 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: Uh does his job in the middle, occupies blocks, doesn't 467 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: get moved back, and uh, every once in a while 468 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 1: he'll knock a guy back and he'll show up like 469 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: with that that for seven or for whatever day at 470 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: the Common you'll see that speed, you know, him chasing 471 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: the ball down. So but yeah, he's it was fun. 472 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. That defense and whole you know, 473 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: not just Jordan's like, you know, I don't want to 474 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: just talk about that defense was really really fun to 475 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: watch this year. And uh, just a lot of talent 476 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: to players, and I think we're gonna see that on 477 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: Draft day with the number of players from Georgia they 478 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: go in the first two rounds probably and there are 479 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: majority of them are going to be on the defense 480 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: side of the ball. The whole team in general's talented. Uh. 481 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: I think Kirby has done a great job down there, 482 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: um building that team. I'll set in the culture, you know, 483 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: and just I think a lot of He's gonna have 484 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 1: a lot more years like this. You know, he might 485 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: have a little bit of a rebuild here next year 486 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: gets him you know. Yeah, Auburn has got some work 487 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: to do touch up to Georgia. So, you know, I 488 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: love Auburn to death obviously being from there, but it's 489 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: Georgia is at another level right now, you know that, 490 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 1: and they're they're they're currently at that Batma level, you know. 491 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: And so and I think Kirby being with Nick and Alabama, 492 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, taking a lot of what he learned from 493 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: coach Saban over there to Georgia and he's done a 494 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: fantastic job. Two other guys who were sparking a lot 495 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: of debate, Derek Sting leader corner from l s U. 496 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: Guy was great as a freshman and then we haven't 497 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: seen much of them since then. Yeah, and then also 498 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: came on Thibodeau for Oregon, great edge rushing people a 499 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: couple of years and he might be the number one 500 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: pick now he could go Hi. Not people saying he 501 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: might slide. I just want to get your take on 502 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: those two guys, because they've also been linked possibly the 503 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: Ravens if they if they got Yeah, it's funny. Both 504 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: those guys, like you said, like their freshman year early 505 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: in their career, they were highly successful. A lot of 506 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: hype on both of those players, and both of them 507 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: like kind of snake bitten a little bit tagged by 508 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: some some injury bugs, you know, and um affected their 509 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: ability to go out and produce UM. You know, they're 510 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: both talented players. They both are at what they do. 511 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: They're both good at what they do. UM. Thibodeau as 512 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: a rusher, you know, he's he's a highly competitive guy. 513 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: He's very intelligent. Both of these guys, I mean they're 514 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: both are very intelligent football players. Um, instinctive. You know. 515 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: TIBs knows how to play the run and the past, 516 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, so like he's a he's a well rounded 517 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: edge player. You know, he's not just a pass freshurant. 518 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna set an edge. He's going to 519 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: compete and chase the ball. UM. And then and Stingley 520 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: is you know, obviously had that incredible ball production as 521 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: a freshman. Didn't have anymore you know, I think the 522 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: next two years. But he also got thrown out a 523 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: lot less. I think he I think his sophomore year 524 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: I looked it up, he was targeted fifty less of 525 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: the time than he was as a freshman. So they 526 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: they learned their lesson. Um, you know, it's still targeted, 527 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: and he gave up some catches, but he can take 528 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: the ball away. Um, athletic guys has eyes, has toughness. 529 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: So both guys definitely, like you know, had the tools 530 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: and the mentality and the play temperament that you like 531 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: to see in a player. You know. All Right, so 532 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: we already talked about my mock draft pick for the Ravens, 533 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis, just putting it on the record. So you know, 534 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: all right, I'll talk about Garrett's guy. Okay, try McDuffie, 535 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: trum mcduffy, give me your take on Trent and tell 536 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: me if Garrett's wrong, tell me, please tell me he's wrong. Well, 537 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: I can't tell you. I can't give you. I can't 538 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: tell you who's right or wrong until you know later 539 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: or later later, you know. So uh to McDuffie is 540 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: obviously plays out there at Washington where they've had a 541 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: history of producing a lot of good dbs. Right. Um, 542 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: so they're kind of like the West Coast TVU. Right, 543 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: So Marcus has something to say about that. Yeah, so 544 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: he's very athletic. Um, you watch him. He's got really 545 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: quick feet, you know, probably not like I don't want 546 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: to call him small because he's not small, but he's 547 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: not like your six two corner, six one corner. But um, 548 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: he's got decent size, but really good speed. Athletic kid, 549 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: very instinctive, very intelligent football player and competitive, so like 550 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: you know the things you want in the corner, He's 551 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: gonna know what to do. He's gonna be able to 552 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: read things he's got you know, ball production. Um gives 553 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: up a little bit in terms of size, but you 554 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: just like the athleticism and the competitiveness he shows out there. Right. 555 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: And the last guy I'll ask you about another one. 556 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: He's been mocked to us fair amount. Trevor Penning. Uh. 557 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: You know, the physicality that we all see just looks 558 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: like a raven from the way he just finishes people. Uh, 559 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: what do you see from him? And then as a 560 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: followup to you know, the Ronnie Stanley report came out 561 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: this week that he had a positive medical recheck, which 562 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: we all hope that would be amazing to us all 563 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: that that's wonderful to hear. You know. The question then 564 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: is does that impact the Ravens and whether they would 565 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: take a first round off as a tackle. I don't 566 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: know how much light you can show on that. Um, well, 567 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: you know I don't. Again, like like I said, we 568 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: just we stack him. We take the best players available. 569 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: So if if Trevor Penning is the best player available 570 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: wherever we're picking, we'll likely take Trevor Penning. You know, 571 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: you can never have too many good offensive tackles, so right, 572 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: So like But the other thing is this Trevor Penning, 573 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: what says he can't play guard? You know, he's a 574 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: left tackle. Can you play right? Yeah? You know he's 575 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: a you know, can you play guard? So? Um, I 576 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: think and that's not just with Trevor. I think that's 577 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: with all offensive tackles. I think every offensive tackle we 578 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: look at, we look at and say, is he is 579 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: he a left tackle only? Or is he is Okay, 580 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: he's left tackle. He can play left, but he's probably 581 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 1: more suited for the right. Or he's a left tackle. 582 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: But you know, obviously we have an All Pro player 583 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: and Ronnie right here, he could play guard, you know. 584 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: So heck, some some tackles we project the center right 585 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: are obvious. See our current center is one of those guys. 586 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: Had had some suggestions that he could possibly be a 587 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: center because of his intelligence and the ability to learn. 588 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: So um. But whichever, Yeah, Like he's a very tough 589 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: and competitive guy. Um, he had some some dominant stretches 590 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: of just beating some guys up there at the at 591 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: that FCS level. But he played well when he played 592 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: up against Iowa State, and uh, it's not too big 593 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: for him. Senior Bowl. Same thing. So um, but just 594 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: his game is physicality certainly. Um, he's he's a good athlete. 595 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: Is a big man, like just broad everywhere and just 596 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: um just put together well and and just has that 597 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: fun mentality. And but when you talk to him, you 598 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: don't he's like a you know, just a big kid, 599 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, just like you know, wow, this is the 600 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: guy that's just like trying to eat your brush the 601 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: guy in front of him. So um, but yeah, he's 602 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: he's he's got a lot of ability and will be 603 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: fun to watch his career progress, you know, no matter 604 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: where he is. You know, yeah, this close to actually 605 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: the pick. How I guess if I ask you, okay, 606 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of these X number guys at fourteen? 607 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: How many guys do you think? You would say? Three? Four? 608 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: Probably three or four? Yeah, you know, of it just depends. 609 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: Like if you gave me the names, I could probably 610 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: tell you and you're telling me they're all available. You 611 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: I could probably tell you that or these that I 612 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: can tell you that guy is not gonna be available. 613 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: But I would say, like you know, on our list, 614 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, you know, it doesn't matter where you're picking. 615 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: Fourteen that means six you can definitely. You can definitely 616 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, there's probably four guys you can 617 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: identify that will probably be there, you know, because you 618 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: just you just say, this guy is gonna be gone, 619 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: you know. And this guy some people may not be 620 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: as high on him as we are, you know. So 621 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: like you think last year, we felt like the two 622 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: guys we took Bateman and I would be there. You know, 623 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: we have we'd have a shot for me. We knew 624 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: they could go, but we thought Packers could have taken Baby. Yeah, 625 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: they could have. And there were teams that actually were 626 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: trying to trade up to our spot and I think 627 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: it was a take away so interesting. So they kind 628 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: of went where they where people thought they would go 629 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: and where they were predicted to go. So there's probably 630 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: three or four or five names that you could throw 631 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: out there and say, good chance that they'll be there. Um, 632 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: and then most likely if you say that before the draft, 633 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: two of them be gone before you picked men make 634 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: it yeah, And then you're like, oh my god, I 635 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 1: can't believe this guy made it to us. Let's pick 636 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: them right right? Cool, Well, before we let you go, 637 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: I have two more for you. One thing I know 638 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: Avid Lounge listeners are used to us playing the game 639 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: in which we give you these you know, off the 640 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: radar players with some fund names and see if you 641 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: can pick tell us what position and what school I 642 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: believe it is that they're at. We're not going to 643 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: play that game this year. Garrett's not here. That that 644 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 1: is part of the reason. Also, so Joe gave us 645 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: a name a year ago. A year ago, Yes, and 646 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: I really believe that this name would be the name 647 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: you would drive. This would be one of the like 648 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: five guys that I would be a percent like, I 649 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: was like a hundred percent convinced. And uh, the great 650 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: thing is he went back to school for a year. Well, 651 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: the bad part is he got injured. Well yeah, because 652 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: we're not mentioned his name. Yes, we can talk we 653 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: talked about Yeah, we can say that there's this thing 654 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: called hippo that you really can't talk about. So um. 655 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: But the good thing is we're not bringing his name up, 656 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: so it's just a god so um. But yeah, so 657 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: next year, uh, you got to say that in the 658 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: envelope for another year and and this is still buried 659 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: in that you wouldn't even let me put it in 660 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: my desk. Yeah enough, trust me that I would. The 661 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: great thing is if you lifted up to the light, 662 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 1: you can see I actually insulated it with two cards 663 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: so you can't even see you through. So I didn't 664 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: even test it as the kind of guy. Use, I 665 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: know what kind of guy you are. That's why the 666 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: cards in there to make sure he didn't. Um No. 667 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, so we can all come back favor for 668 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: another year. Yeah, we'll come back to it next year. 669 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: And my last question for you is before we came 670 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: in here, you were telling me that you are part 671 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: of a weight loss challenge. Right now, I am, Can 672 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: you tell the story here to the listeners? Uh? Yeah, 673 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: you know. So we all we have way too many 674 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: weight loss challenges, um over the course of the year. 675 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: And that's because none of us can eat or a 676 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: handful of us can eat right and stay disciplined. So um, 677 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: we we come up with these weight loss challenges when 678 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: we get heavy and UM. I was in the middle 679 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: of one and uh, you know, Eric asked me like, Kelly, 680 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: how's your how's your weight going? I'm like, oh, I'm 681 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: doing great, you know, it's confident. It was like two 682 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: weeks in, I've all seven pounds. I'm you know, I'm 683 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: killing this thing, all right, and uh he said okay, 684 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: he said, uh, you know as a can when you 685 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: guys go wins it end. I'm like, we're going all 686 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: the way through the draft. He's like, you're going all 687 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: way through? Yeah, I'm going all through all right, Okay, 688 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: we're going through track. He's like, what are you gonna 689 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: get to? I'm like one eight six and he says, 690 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be and I'm like, I'm gonna be 691 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: one eighties six, you know. So we're going back and 692 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: so he offered me a bit, you know, and so um, 693 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, and it's not necessarily cash related, so there's 694 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: a lot of incentive for me to be one eighties six, 695 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: right and right now, right now, I'm a little malnourished, 696 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I'm still keeping my fluid intake, 697 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, uh good, but my cloric intake is very 698 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: low and um, and I'm exercising more than I ever had. 699 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: So that's that's a great thing. I guess there's a 700 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: there's definitely a benefit to this, right, Um, yeah, I 701 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: gotta I gotta get there tomorrow. So this is why 702 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: Joe is wearing a Parker right now. Yeah, I got. 703 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here in a rubber wrestling suit. I don't 704 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: go crazy, man, he told me was shaking, like, yeah, 705 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: I was working. I did have a strenuous uh you know, 706 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: just treadwill yesterday and I just because my you know, 707 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: calories are a little low. I needed to get a 708 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: had to drink one of those quick protein shakes afterwards 709 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: because you know, the blood sugar was low. So now 710 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: we're working towards it, and you know, I gotta just 711 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: stay with it afterwards. So I'm not in another weight 712 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: lost challenge three months from now. So now that's why 713 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: you don't enter the weight loss challenge. Man, You just 714 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: accept the dad body. Yeah, that's what I do. Well, 715 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: you know, trust me. I have four boys at home, 716 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: and they are certain to tell me I have a 717 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: dad bought all four of them, you know. You know, 718 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: I get you know, one of my boys, Dad, you're fat. 719 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: You know, I love it, and I love it. You're 720 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: supposed to be supportive of your father, you know, beer belly. Yeah, 721 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: that's right. They love you know, they love they love 722 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: giving me a hard time. So I love my boys, 723 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: but you know they beat up their dad a little bit, 724 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: which is good because I give it back to him. Nice. Nice, Well, 725 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us, Joe, appreciate you, guys. Thank you. 726 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: The sports landscape is ever changing, and this week is 727 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: no different. DraftKings, the leader and daily Fantasy Sports, still 728 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: has daily fantasy contests running for those looking to have 729 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: skin in the game. It's simple. Each player has a 730 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: salary associated with drafting them. 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So really great stuff. 740 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: And I tell you it was interesting to to hear 741 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: him talk about some of these players that the Ravens 742 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: are most linked to. You know, I always look for 743 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: the twinkle in his eye, all right, you really like 744 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: something exactly exactly trying to get any reasons. Um, but 745 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: it'll be really cool to see who the Ravens pick. 746 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: And you know, the more that I break this down, 747 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: you and I were just talking about this before we started, 748 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: and and you list the names out right, and you say, okay, well, 749 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: these eight guys or whatever ten guys are for sure 750 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: going to be gone before the Ravens pick. I would say, 751 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: like eight that I can just cross off the list, right, 752 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: And then you start to say, all right, well, now 753 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: if you factor in some of these wide receivers that 754 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: the Ravens probably aren't gonna take. Now, I don't know. 755 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: If they have Drake London as their fourth best player 756 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: in the draft and he's sitting there at fourteen, then 757 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: sure they could they could take him right, um, but 758 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: most likely not. If you start factoring in some of 759 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: those wide receivers. Let's say you get three of them 760 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: in there. If you if with my eight guys and 761 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: then you know a few that I think are chance 762 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: probably gone, and then you factor in three wide receivers. 763 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: Now you're pushing a guy like a Jermaine Johnson to 764 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: the Ravens potentially at fourteen, or is it a Derek 765 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: Stingley to the Ravens that falls down in there, Is 766 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: it a a Kyle Hamilton's or something like that. Right then, 767 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: like one of these bigger names now that you were 768 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: thinking probably is gone, one of them is there at 769 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: fourteen in addition to probably the safe guys that you 770 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: can probably count on being there most likely will be it, 771 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: you know that would be of interest to the Ravens 772 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: at least a Jordan Davis, Trent McDuffie, you know, a 773 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: Devon Lloyd, Trevor Penning, or probably like the safer guys 774 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: that you can expect they're probably there. Maybe Davis gets 775 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 1: picked a little hit maybe. But the twinkle Ie gout 776 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,479 Speaker 1: is that I think that the Ravens feel really good 777 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: that they're going to get a really good players gonna 778 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: help them right away at fourteen, no matter what app 779 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: Oh for sure. So they're like, Okay, however this falls, 780 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna get a good player. I just think the 781 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 1: the last piece is if one of those really good 782 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: players that they really love is still there at nine 783 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 1: and eleven, do they move up something to Ravens typically 784 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: don't do. I think that that's the possibility this year 785 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: that if there's somebody they love gets to that eight 786 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: nine area. Will they move up, right, that's the question. 787 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: You know, there's the report out this morning or yesterday 788 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: about about the Ravens being one of the teams that 789 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: have made phone calls about moving up. Now, this is 790 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: smoke screen season, and everybody does their due diligence, right. 791 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: You know, the Eagles are supposedly a team that are 792 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: looking to potentially move up. You know, there's a lot 793 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: of rumors about the Giants moving back with one of 794 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: the picks, and you know, everybody seems to be shopping 795 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: their pick right now. Um, so you don't know what 796 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 1: to believe in. The Ravens are going to do their homework. 797 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, obviously, cornerback and I think outside 798 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: linebacker edge rusher are the two base needs. I think 799 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: that's pretty obvious to everybody. And it just so happens 800 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: that two of the more volatile prospects in this draft, 801 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeau and Derek Stingley Jr. Are at those positions. 802 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: So if one of those guys is within striking distance, 803 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: I think that the Ravens certainly could make that phone call. 804 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's gonna be a lot of buzz tomorrow 805 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: or draft night. If you were at nine and you 806 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: see Thibodeau is still there, or Stingley still there, even McDuffie, 807 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like, Okay, I don't think they trained 808 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: up for McDuffie, but I know, but it depends on 809 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: if they love them. I mean, I agree with you, 810 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: I don't think so. But what if you really think 811 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: McDuffie's gonna be a heck of a corner, and you 812 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: think you picture him in with the Ravens, with Peters 813 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: and Humphree, you add him to that mix, and then 814 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: what they have in safety. I mean, maybe I played 815 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: the Bengals twice a year, you know, matching up with 816 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: them with a corner like McDuffie. If you really think 817 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna be, you know, a one corner, that's pretty tempting, 818 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: you know. I think the position he plays and the 819 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: fact that he supposed we want the top three corners, 820 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: if you could get them to pair him with Humphrey 821 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: and Peters, that makes him even better corner with the Ravens, 822 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: and he would be somewhere else. Yeah, I feel that. 823 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: So let's let's quickly go over best case scenario and 824 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: worst case scenario for the Ravens. Okay, best case scenario, 825 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: I'll take this one, all right. You know, uh so 826 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: I think that is two quarterbacks go before the Ravens 827 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: are on the clock, and let's say three wide receivers. 828 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: It's five guys that's sitting for Oh, they're sitting real good. 829 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: Then you're looking at Stingley is at fourteen potentially you know, 830 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: you're looking at uh, Jermaine Johnson certainly being there. I 831 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: think that would probably be in addition to Davis Penning, McDuffie, 832 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: all those guys, you know, Thibodeaux maybe he can potentially 833 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: even slide down that far. Like you're looking at Charles Cross, 834 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, is does he fall in the range of 835 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: the Ravens or even the fourteen? To me or Hamilton's 836 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: that is the dream scenario, is that? And really it's 837 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: that you can get Stingy without having to move up 838 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: or Thibodeaux. To me, that's the dream scenario in which 839 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: you have quarterbacks and wide receivers. For you, what's the 840 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: what's the worst case Let's go to the negative here. Yeah, 841 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: kind obviously like no quarterbacks go right, distinct possibility and 842 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: maybe one whe but let's just say one. Right Now, 843 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: you're looking at a lot of players who have been 844 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: mocked at the Ravens realistically going before they get the 845 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 1: It's like all the cornerbacks, all three corners, including McDuffie, 846 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: Sauce McDuffie gonna happen, gone right. Uh. And you're looking 847 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: at the pass rushers gone, Tibodeau's gone, Tibodet has gone, 848 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: Durine Johnsons gone, right, And you're looking at maybe even 849 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: Davis gets picked let's say one spot ahead of us 850 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: by the Texans or somebody, or the Eagles move up. 851 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: The Eagles are rumored to be, you know, interested perhaps 852 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: in in Jordan. Davis and the Texans are shopping pick 853 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: number thirteen. You know, the Eagles lead frog the Ravens 854 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: at fourteen and take Davis and the cornerbacks are already 855 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: gone and the pass orders are gone. That's the worst 856 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: case scenario. Then you're like, how how do we have 857 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: these wide receivers and one guy we haven't mentioned who 858 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just just so you people know to a 859 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: couple of days ago, I was accused of being a 860 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: bad GM So, oh yeah, you're the worst. So we 861 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: don't want Cliff on this, so I'm gonna put this 862 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: out here. Save this. That one guy I'm high on 863 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: who we haven't mentioned this podcast is Devin Lloyd. If 864 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: you talk in that scenario that you brought up, what 865 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: we're talking about where all these other guys, I think 866 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,919 Speaker 1: it's the thing strongly about taking him because I think 867 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna have the a heck of a player. I 868 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: think him, paired with Patrick Queen, would be a tremendous 869 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: inside linebacker, combo, young athletic. So yes, wherever Devin Lloyd goes, 870 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: Remember three years ago, three years from now, I said 871 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: he's going to be a heck of NFL player, whether 872 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,760 Speaker 1: it's here or somewhere else. Remember I'm calling Devin Lloyd's 873 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a stud. That's what I believe. Okay, So 874 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 1: who's your We haven't gotten your mock traffic, Garrett and 875 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: I released our seven round Ram's box. I went with 876 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis. You went with try McDuffie. Who's Clifton? You know, 877 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 1: I think it is gonna be McDuffie. Okay, I think 878 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna be there, and if he's if he is there, 879 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: I feel pretty calm for them. He's going to be 880 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: the guy. You think if Jordan Davis and McDuffie are 881 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: both on the clock, they take McDuffie their value on corners. 882 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: For what I just said, I think he'd be an 883 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 1: even better fit here than other places. Yes, I mean 884 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: I have nothing against Davis, but yeah, I'm i'd go McDuffie. Yes, Okay, 885 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:27,959 Speaker 1: all right, here are you're taking Stingley or Jermaine Johnson? Who? 886 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: John Johnson? Okay? All right? Who are you taking Penning 887 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: or Jordan Davis? Davis? Okay, I thought you're gonna get 888 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: Penning there. I like Davis, but and also I like Penning. 889 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: The idea of picking Penning if you think he's gonna 890 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: be a heck of a tackle and can play guard, 891 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bad idea. I mean, the 892 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: Ravens having a great offensive line is hugely important to 893 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: them as much as they run to football. And the 894 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: more time you give Lamar, the better he becomes, not 895 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: only throwing run in every way. I think if if 896 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: you know Penning can play guard and in best case scenario, 897 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: Ronnie's healthy, you kick Penning into guard for a year. 898 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: Two You said it, right, Tackle and you have a 899 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,280 Speaker 1: dominant offensive line similar what they had in two thousand nineteen. 900 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: You're getting JK and guts back hopefully healthy. Yeah, I'm 901 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: down with that. That doesn't bother me. Now. Yeah, if Penning, 902 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: if he's just an average guard and Ronnie's healthy, No, 903 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: I would never draft Penning if he's not gonna play 904 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: next year and help you right away? Is how much 905 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: better of a guardips? If you think he's gonna be 906 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: a heck of a guard. If he's gonna be just 907 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,760 Speaker 1: is nasty and overpowering a guard as he's a tackle 908 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: and he was ever Lyning across from him is getting malled, 909 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: and you've got Ronnie healthy next to him. Anytime you 910 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 1: need a yard or two, I'm going on. I'm running 911 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: to the left side and nobody's gonna be there. I'm 912 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: done with that. You know John, You know John? Is 913 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: John going for it or not? Right? He's going forth 914 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,720 Speaker 1: right exactly. I'm all down with that. Right. So Penning 915 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: is a guy would not eliminate from the equation. Okay, Okay, 916 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: listeners know how I feel about this. I don't feel 917 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: like I would spend a first round tackle at this point. 918 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: Um not nothing against Penning. I think he's getting dogged 919 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: way too much by our fans on social media all 920 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden. It's really odd. The guy's a good player. 921 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't think the value of the 922 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: first round pick really marries with what the Ravens need. 923 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: And they have so much bigger needs for me than 924 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: off the tackle, but they need depth there. I'm still 925 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 1: I'm still ready to put one second round pick, third 926 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: round pick, fourth round. Certainly they need to add office 927 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: attack of depth. I'm just I pause when it comes 928 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: to a first round offensive tackle, last one for you, Devin, 929 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd or Jordan Davis both on board? Who you 930 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: take your guy? I go with Davis. You're buckling, you 931 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: said Lloyd yesterday. You're you're flip flopping. You're garretting here, Mr, 932 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take an offensive lineman and then he takes 933 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: the corner. You're flip flopping. You know. I might be, 934 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: you might be. We may have called me out on that. 935 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: That's a tough one, though. That's a tough one. I mean, 936 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: I can only take one. So Davis taking Davis? All right? 937 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: All right? I like it. I like it anyway. Thank 938 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: you for listening. It's a fun episode of Lounge. Garrett 939 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: is in Vegas and we'll be bringing you tons of 940 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: coverage from out there. Uh, So make sure you're tuned 941 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: into all of our channels, social media and and otherwise 942 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: to get all the great content. Will of course have 943 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: cameras in the draft room when the Ravens call their selection, uh, 944 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: to get the reaction from inside the draft room. So 945 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: lots of cool stuff coming your way. Make sure you 946 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,439 Speaker 1: stay tuned for all of it, and we'll be back 947 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 1: with you. We're gonna tape, We're gonna take Garrett. I 948 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: will tape a reaction podcast after round one, so late 949 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: in the wee hours that yeah, of Friday morning, I 950 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 1: should say the wee hours of Friday morning. We will 951 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: be taping a Lounge podcast and we'll get that out 952 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: asap with our reactions to the Ravens first round pick uh. 953 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: And then we will also be taping I believe one 954 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: after day two. Are we just doing the weekend? I 955 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: can't remember anyway, Well, we'll have a lot coming to 956 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: you this weekend. To make sure you stay tuned