WEBVTT - With the 29th Pick in the 2025 NFL DRAFT...Washington Selects...?! | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:02.759 On today's episode of Command Center Podcast, we are risking 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:05.880 it for the Biscuit by attending the NFL Draft. You 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:08.159 guys didn't go, but what do you think about the 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.360 guys that are going. We're gonna talk about that. Fred 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:13.760 and Santana and I. We're gonna sell you something good, 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.760 something sweet, a prospect in this class that is very 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:20.240 very special. Yeah, I will say Fred is a great salesman. 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:22.400 All right, and then we got hater Jason in the house. 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:24.959 We're going to talk about our draft day anxieties. What 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.319 are we worried about? Guys, don't worry. Adam Peters is 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.560 here walking you asleep, and Adam Peters we trust it 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:37.000 all starts right now. Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:39.919 I'm logan Paulsena with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss. Yeah, 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.720 we have some exciting news. Santana, you had a charity 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.640 golf tournament this weekend, eighty nine Ways to Give Charity 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:47.200 Golf event. 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:47.520 Yeah. 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:49.200 I wasn't able to go because I was on vacation, 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.600 which I'm really bummed about. And Fred was telling me 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.440 all good he was hitting the ball. Jason was telling 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:55.920 me it the couple of kidd a cup of golf 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:59.000 balls and and you know, Maddie and all the producers 0:00:59.000 --> 0:00:59.400 said they were. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.440 Riding here, a couple of bars out there. 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.440 Yeah, I know. So it sounds like a really nice event. 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.120 It was a great turnout. I mean, just to say 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:06.520 the least. 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.240 Bro, it's it's gratifying just to see the people that 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:10.920 support you, you know what I mean. So a big 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.120 shout out to my command center crew, all the guys 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.760 that's behind the scene, Jason, Maddie, Kayler, Key. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:22.080 Caroline, Anna, all of them showed up. Ryan was there. Man. 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:23.679 That was big because I didn't, you know, I didn't 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.440 know at what capacity they was gonna come, you know, 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.479 And I saw them in their gear and I was like, oh. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:29.319 They coming to golf. 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.119 And it was funny because we getting ready to golf 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:33.440 and no one seem smooth. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.600 So everybody like, yes, and I'm like, his birthday was 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:37.279 last night. 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:44.040 Here, but no, man, honestly, from the command center guys 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:45.920 that I work with now and from the you know, 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:49.960 former Redskins slash commanders who are football players, that all 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.600 showed up Man and everybody else Man who made the 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:53.320 event special. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:53.520 Man. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.080 Hats off to y'all. Appreciate y'all. You know, we can't 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.040 do what we do in the community without them. And 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.200 I think that's one of the biggest things that you 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.240 know that I love about it because it shows you that, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.960 you know, it's easy for me to support others when people. 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.760 Support me, you know, And so what was it? 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:07.240 What's it for? 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.919 So you know, and I tell everybody you know cutting dry, 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.440 you know, you have so many different foundations saying well 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:14.640 we give back to this and that. Man, were just 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.800 a foundation that I started way beyond my years of 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.320 playing football that I wanted to just give back to 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:25.640 the inner city or any neighboring city that need that 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:26.800 I can just support. 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.600 And I could do it personally myself. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:30.560 When I was younger, I did everything out of my 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:31.959 pocket and then I got with good people. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.040 They're like, bro, people will people will help you do us. 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.120 Yeah, And so since I've been here, I rebranded the 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:38.640 name to A nine Ways. It used to be the 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.440 Centeranna Moss Foundation, then it changed to the Moss Brothers Foundation, 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.800 and I rebranded the name to just eight nine Ways 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:45.720 to Give because the area knows me as that guy 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.600 wold at eighty nine. So yeah, it's just been it's 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.600 been a three each and every year working with some 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.919 of the folks, and I must say this, we give 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.000 Fred Smooth a lot of flak for whatever you know 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.760 from us fat checking them and doing other things. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.080 Know, because the pair of lips always said lost him. 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:05.280 I always told him, but this dude is the best 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:10.680 seller I ever had at any auctioneer. He does, he 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.799 doesn't two years in a row, and I couldn't get 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.960 nobody else that job. So I got to pay him 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.920 for that next time because he did such an amazing job. 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:20.440 Man, But he had one of my teammates from high school. 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.679 They're shocked me today, my guy Andrew Howard. When I 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.880 seen him in there, I'm like, you're in the right player, 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:27.160 What are you doing? 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:27.399 Yeah? 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.959 Man, I came out here so shots after that man. 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.240 One of my older teammates, he was a twelfth grader 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.080 when I was a tenth grader. He watched me lose 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:34.920 my mind. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.000 And he said this, because we always ask questions about 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.720 how this guy was growing up. The guy said, if 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:42.960 whatever way he is now, he was worse than so. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:46.360 Yeah, which is hard to imagine. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.840 No, I was lashing out because I felt like I 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:49.400 should be. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.440 Playing at that time football relady. 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.040 Yeah, it was our football related and they my coach 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.040 was like, you gotta wait your ten balls in front 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.080 of you. We going to the state championship game. I 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.920 was like, I'm better than them, so they wouldn't let 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.200 me play early. So I started crashing practice. I started 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:09.280 choking with sea, I start burning dB. I started crashing 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:10.760 out in practice. Man, they have. 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.320 That's uh, that's a wild short. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.400 What's so good at selling stuff? I don't know. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.040 If you can see in the control room up there 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.120 on the speaker, he convinced Ryan, I think to buy 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:24.240 that up there, it's like a bulldog holding a tray, yeah, 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:28.800 wearing sunglasses serving no idea what that is. But swoot, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:35.200 just someone boughtyving them dollars, serving them dogs. Sometimes people 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.800 really want to buy stuff. They just need okay. They 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.360 need to just know it's okay. Like I told them 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.280 when I was up there. We had one particular item. 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.160 I was like, this is good, great item, I say, 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.160 but I said, it's a sugar dad item. I don't 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:51.679 go buy this out, sugar Dad. You get your sugar 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.880 Dad on. This one is for you right here. It 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.760 went off the ship jet like that J like that 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:57.680 you got. 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:02.080 The wrong profession right now, car My gosh, he'd be 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:03.640 that guy that you be sleeping. You hear him when 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.880 you put up a TV on it you see free 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.440 up there. No, you gotta watch you this lovely watch. 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.119 I can see it on your mom's arm right now. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:13.800 Got us on at two am. 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:17.359 Just but I enjoyed Raansberry forms a course because I 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:21.160 love the mountains, the Sands, Gras bear Fall, and I 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.480 enjoyed that course. I played it and smooth down Shambo, 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:25.440 I'll be ripping it. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.560 Are you good at golf? I'm great at everything. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:32.520 Yeah, man, we can say, we can say. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.560 Okay, So if you want to kind of check out 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.839 Tanna's charity, it's eighty nine ways to give dot org. 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.000 So you can help him out there. And uh, obviously 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:42.400 Tanna is such a great guy and all it is 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.520 for the community. So you can support them there, check 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.880 it out and uh, maybe a ten next year, I would. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.880 Say this, Yeah, you can't have to wait for next year. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:53.360 My birthday weekend May thirty. First, I'm having my first annual. 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:59.440 It's called Santana's Kingpin Tournament. It's gonna be a bowling tournament. 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:03.880 So now I'm coming so now looking now get me there. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:05.840 Now we get to now. 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.760 Yeah, if y'all want to see that match up, you know, 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.600 hopefully miss friend is on the same team, because I 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.080 think it's gonna be people signing up to Yeah, so 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:13.800 hopefully we on the same team. Trying to get all 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.640 of us be on the same team against these other 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.840 you know, fans and people who coming to the No. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.760 But yeah, so if you're looking forward to or you 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.520 want to participate in that, go out going a website. 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.520 We should have that up pretty soon to be May 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:27.080 thirty first. 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:27.880 And that's so funny. 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.880 Yeah, your mama like your mom, me and your mama, 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:32.159 she had the same birthday with my mama. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:33.440 Birthday is May thirty first. 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.680 And Master Junie first, Yeah, June first, right, so were 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:41.080 supposed to be so yeah, were supposed to be anyway, 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:43.799 that's so funny. 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.560 U right now a little bit of housekeeping obviously, check 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.800 out the website supports Santana Charity. That's fantastic stuff that 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.240 he's doing the community. A housekeeping all right. Because it's 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.520 draft week, we got our other podcast Ticket to the Draft. 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.839 We did a seven round mock draft came out yesterday 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:02.600 with Fred and my brother Yeah, and jam mcgreen Jerimer Green, 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:04.840 and they kind of talk the same. They don't look 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:06.839 the same, but they talk the same. A lot of metaphor, 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.360 very funny guys. And went through every single draft pick. 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.120 It took us like what an hour and a half. Yeah, 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:16.200 it's alone by long time. Lots of debates there about players. 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.920 Fred had some of the talk about Fred selling stuff. Man. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.480 We listened to him on a show today. 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:21.920 We go up to a player and he would just 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:23.680 he'd sell that guy hard. 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:27.680 No, yoga Aurora. I tried to get him. I tried 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.560 to sell them. They fought back, but I was like, no, 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.800 this is the dude right here. And we was arging 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.400 up with a second round pick on him. 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:35.880 Yeah, sixty one, sixty one. 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:37.840 I'm like, come on, dude, this is this is a 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:38.880 chess piece for here. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.440 Should definitely check out the argument it was. It was masterful. 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.960 If we had been a finished product, all right, yeah. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.560 But obviously exciting player Royo. But we see all the 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.600 guys we picked, see the conversations, lots of really great analysis. 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.880 Makes you check that out. And we got Command Center 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:57.040 Live Draft Night that's on Thursday, Yeah, Thursday, So tomorrow, Yes, tomorrow, 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.040 toomuch tomorrow, and it's on six pm on YouTube and 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:04.000 we like so basically the draft starts at seven, we're 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.240 on at six, okay, so on an hour before and 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.680 then we're on live during the pick. So there's lots 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.480 of times that we're live, we have to go away 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:12.160 and then we come back. So make sure you click 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.960 that subscribe button, the bell, the notification button. It's going 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.280 to get you back to us when we're alive, because 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.280 like we are going to have the best analysis of 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:20.880 the pick, because like who knows the team better than 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:22.840 we do in terms of national media. So make sure 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:26.120 you guys like subscribe and then hit that notification button. 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.920 Yeah, if I could sell it like Fred Smoot. There's 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.400 the draft room, the war rooms, right, it's right next 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:36.199 door to me. They're literally dq ap like we're talking 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:37.520 without them. We're going to see if we can get 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.000 it to happen. I'm confident will They're just going to 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.600 make the pick. Walk right on out, walk right in here. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.319 Talk to you guys about the pick. So nobody else 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.240 is going to get that, no other soup it. So 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.400 if you want your commander is yeah, that's right where 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:52.000 the soup. 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:52.240 Has made it. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.679 Yeah, I love that. That's a great sell. You're giving 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.360 your challenging Fred moot smooth for selling stuff. 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:57.800 Yeah. 0:08:57.840 --> 0:08:59.839 I personally don't care what mel Kuiper has to say. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:01.839 I want to hear what aps to say. He's someone 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:02.920 that's actually doing it, dude. 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.480 Yeah, if you want Yeah, if you want analysis, who's. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.720 Who better than the guy that's pushing the butt? 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:10.080 This is my pick. 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.040 This is about male Kaiper and the weather man been 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:17.000 lying for over one hundred second that what they do. 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:18.440 I don't know you've been. I've been watching a lot 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.320 of draft content ready for the show this week, and 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.120 there are some wacky takes out. 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.320 The first of all, people are all over the board. 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.720 Like I literally heard on the radio yesterday. I was 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:32.040 looking listening to the Junkies. Old GM came on from 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.679 the Jets and said the most absurd thing I ever 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.800 said heard about. You should do a sentence. 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:38.760 What do you say? He said, I have? 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.560 And this is a Jets GM. So evidently you ain't 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:47.520 been doing your job good all right? He said, Uh, 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:52.600 he's he's undraftable. That what I had on my paper, I. 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.679 Came draftable, undraftable. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.480 I came right on next on B Mitch Show, B Mitch, 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.960 I hit B Mitch up in less say let me 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:07.600 come on, I want to defend Tannebaum. Was him, came 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:09.800 over here and one Tannebone. But he got on there 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.000 and said this absurd stuff. I said, I'm gonna tell you, 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:13.880 as an ex football player, who I think should do 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.080 it is one of my classmates. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:17.160 This is a lofty call. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.920 But they said Drew Brees was too small. They said 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.800 Drew didn't have enough gas in it. They say Drew 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.560 can't throw over office alignment. They say the same thing 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.680 about you do it. You do it is Drew Brees 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:29.640 with a gold chain. 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:31.319 I'm gonna tell you like this though, when you really 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:32.720 look at it, and I don't want to get too 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.559 long on this, when you look at some of the 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.360 stuff that comes out before the draft, you got to 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:38.640 take it with a grain of salt. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:40.839 I mean, they don't know or they can go off. 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.400 Is your college performances of the last three to four years. 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.600 And if you look at what this kid done, the 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.760 only thing that he has done that ticked them off. 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:49.240 Is his mouth. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:50.760 And that's what his dad did. 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.160 But his dad a little more a little flair about 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.240 itself and he played the different position, so you need 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.520 those guys to do that they used to seeing quarterbacks 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.079 do heah. So at the end of the day, I 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.800 feel like he put usself in that situation of talking 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:04.560 the way he's talking. But he's going to be the 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.240 one to get the last laugh because I feel like 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.240 he is capable of going out there being a good 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:09.199 quarterback in his league. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:09.920 So I'll mean that. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:11.720 I mean, there's two things here that I think are 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.280 really important. One is bel kiper Junior has him as 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.600 his number one player, number one quarterback. He says he's 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.800 gonna be the first player back, first player taking over 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.480 km Ward. So you that's the level of kind of 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.680 difference you can you can get. Like there was a 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:25.520 guy on I was talking to about Shamar Stewart today. 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.600 They're like, I have him at sixty one. I am 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.400 at twenty two. But there's a guy that I know 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:30.360 has him at eight, like. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.480 I got it, got him at one on five because 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:33.480 the stats didn't make. 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.520 Yeah, there's just a lot of stuff going on right, 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.600 So it's important to keep that in mind. And then 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.560 like the other thing to I mean, I don't know, 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:41.240 we can talk about this we'll talk about it later. 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:45.200 But the draft is funny. This year's draft it's especially funny. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.040 And the other thing, this is what you said, Tennis. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.000 Where I was thinking about is everyone comes out and says, oh, 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.360 I heard this from so and so on a team. 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.080 Teams know that you are in the media, they know 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:56.640 you're gonna say this note. 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:01.000 But sometime they win. Now, but sometime they whip I'm saying, 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:02.559 because they want to play out a file to this. 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.520 Yes, Like, there's all sorts of craziness to be like, oh, 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.280 I'm tracking thirty visits. Every team uses thirty visits differently. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.360 They use them differently, right, So some people are bringing 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.440 people in because they have red flags on them, they 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.840 want more information. Some people use them as smoke screens. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:17.840 Some people use them to indicate people are actually interested 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.400 in drafting. So this is silly season. We won't know 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.679 for sure. I don't care who you are until Thursday night. Yeah, 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.840 and obviously we'll be here and hopefully Adam Peters joins 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.200 us and we have we'll get all that insight and 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:30.920 the kind of people behind the veil there, which would 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.000 be great. All right, So now let's get into our 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.400 draft talk and discussion. It's risk it for the biscuit 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:40.000 attending the draft, and as always, risk it for the 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.000 Biscuit is presented by Marsha McGlenn an agency. You're a 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.960 partner and risk in people's strategies. So when I say 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.280 attending the draft, I'm not talking about as a fan. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.560 I'm talking about as a player. Those guys that are 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.200 sitting in there in the green room waiting for their 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.520 name to get called. My question to both of you is, 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.040 would you ever have when you were getting ready to 0:12:58.080 --> 0:12:59.480 come out, would you ever attend the draft? 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:03.000 We both hurt it down. Yeah, when we had the chance. Tom, 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.760 I'm gonna go with marsh mclenny on this one, right. 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.120 Going to that draft is a risk first of all. 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.640 And if you a person people that got a strategy, 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.559 you know to sit at home with your family, sit 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.880 at home with your family, good, bad, ugly in between. 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:23.160 You do not want third degree airing Roger's face. You 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.040 do not want to sit there. Why pick got? The 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.200 pick goes through and I don't know how these guys, 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.600 the one that sit there then come back the next day. 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:33.640 I don't know what they think you like At the 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.040 end of the day, the pain is already happened. I 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.760 would rather be with my family, be with my friends, 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:40.800 be with the people that was there with me before 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:41.560 this day even happen. 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.319 I'm going with both of y'all, you and what you 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:43.840 call it. 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.800 Mar marrish mc glenny. I ain't want to mess the 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:50.520 word up. Not but honestly, man, don't get me wrong. 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.160 Like you know, me and Fred both had potential of 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.080 being first round draft picks. We understood why Fred felt 0:13:56.080 --> 0:14:00.000 a little bit because of you know, his extracurriculum. Tell you, yeah, 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:01.840 just the stuff you did off the field. You know, 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:06.839 we're not surprised, right thirty years later. But honestly, when 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:08.680 they called me and told me, hey, you know you 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.400 had the opportunity miage, he knew what time it was. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.360 I'm just not that guy. First of I don't want 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:13.960 the camera on me. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.400 I remember all the news outlets that wanted to participate 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.200 with my little draft gathering. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.440 I told him, y'all got a way outside on Front Street. 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:22.000 You know what I mean? 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.240 Like when I know when I get a call and 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.120 they say they're finna pick me, then I'll let you in. 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.560 Because I didn't want that drama. I didn't want the drama, 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.800 the speculation to hoole leading up to it, because that's 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.040 all it's all for them. It's for them to sit 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:36.560 there and be like, oh, you see him now, he's 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.120 over here pacing, or they would have been saying he's 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:40.800 taking a shot of the hend right now. I just 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.440 saw him taking shot. He's getting nervous, it's getting nerve 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.400 wracking for him. But I just didn't want that for 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.560 me or my family because I had no expectations. All 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.680 I knew was that they say first round potential, and whether. 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.080 It was gonna be early or later. 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.040 I just knew that I'm gonna get drafted, So whether 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.320 it was gonna be in the first round or another time, 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.240 I just was like, look, when that's when that call come, 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.240 i'ma be excited, them to be ecstatic, and I'm gonna, 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:02.520 you know, roll with the punches. 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.200 Then I got a question for both of you guys. 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:07.000 Did your agents have an idea of where you would 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.400 be drafted? Like? What team was maybe interesting because I 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.040 feel like at the top it's a little bit easier 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:12.600 to slock. 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:14.560 I So I told you one of things about Drew 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.600 rosa house man, and that he's not he's not called 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.240 a shock for a reason. They had me everywhere up 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.200 in that first round. I tell you that one the 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.760 two guys at my pro day said if he was 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:25.520 five eleven, he'll be the first receiver come. 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:26.120 Off the board that year. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.920 And it's crazy because I was like, that's devastating to 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.320 tell somebody who stayed behind. But at the same time, 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.160 like I said before, to me that just talked, unless 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:35.680 this happens, I'm not tripping on it. 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.200 But leading up to that day. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.720 It was all Washington, all Washington. 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.080 So my agent was saying and saying the same thing, like, look, bro, 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:44.160 he has the possibility. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:45.600 We don't know, so I'm. 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.240 Not going to get your and my whole damn show 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:49.840 on for the behind because I wan't finish it there 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.640 and be, you know, set on one team. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:52.560 I know how this thing go. 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.480 I watched draft all my life, so I knew that 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.680 it's things happened in that draft that get funky at time. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.600 But today of the draft, it went from we knew 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:06.160 Washington was one of the teams. Then EJ had told 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.760 me Whispers of the Coats was gonna get me if 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.280 I felt from Washington the Coats said there was gonna 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.880 be next and it's crazy how it happened, and Washington 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:14.680 get didn't get me. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.760 The Jets jumped up in front of everybody and. 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.560 Got me at surprised. Now that's what the draft is. 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.840 I was hell been thrown. Thought I was going to Tampa. 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.880 I had talked to Tampa like more than anybody, and 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:33.200 they end up drafting ken Yata Walker, a guy from Mississippi. Yeah, 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.600 like a big offensive tackle, and I'm thinking they finish, 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.560 They finna pulled the trigger on me at the time, 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:43.120 And like I said, like I didn't really zero in 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.880 on anybody, Like I had ton't talk to enough people 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.000 that I was like, you know, when you talk to 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.600 top corners, it's me and Nate Clemens. It ain't really 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.680 nobody else besides us. So I'm like, whoever the coneer 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.280 need a team, That's where I'm going. And guess what 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.840 if I would have been at dB taken in the 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:00.920 first round, I would have been in Miami because they 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.080 took Jamal Fletcher. Yeah at the time, forgot about it. 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.840 Friz Smo did not need to be in Miami. Twenty 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:08.280 years old. 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.359 Miami probably do that too, thank you. 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.760 Miami would have chewed me up and spit me back out. 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.840 So how many dv's won before you or how many. 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:18.880 Yes too to him? And that yeah, Nate and Jamar Fletcher. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.080 So it was like one of them things where once 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.240 you in the storm, you don't care who little picky 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.080 you just like I just I just want to get picked. 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.320 And then my take on that too, you gotta think 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.200 because Fred might have a different journey, but my journey 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.320 was so bumpy getting into college to just know that 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.159 I'm going to leave college as a draft pick on 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.000 the first day, I didn't you man, they could have 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.200 had a new team pop up and say they thirty thirteen. 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:46.840 I didn't even get you know what I'm saying. 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.240 It was just like, man, I just walked on, yeah, 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.000 four years ago, and now I'm getting drafted and you know, 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:53.040 potentially first round. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.639 Yes, So I was okay regardless. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.040 And soil you guys didn't go obviously, but like what 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:58.440 do you guys end up doing? Just hanging out? 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.439 So yeah, you know, and I say, I tell my 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.600 story first. It was everyone thought my family, like both sides, 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:07.639 they thought Tennefon to throw it down because this is 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:11.240 something big bro. I had my intermediate family that the house, 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.720 the house I lived in, the people that lived there, 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.400 they was there, and my two homeboys and my girl. 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:17.760 We were just that's all we did. 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:19.359 We sat right there and then I had my agent 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.159 of course, and I had one aunt. I think I 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.000 had one of my aunts who was closer to my dad. 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.480 That's it. And I didn't want no one else in there. 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:26.639 And it's food or anything. 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.560 Oh we ate, he ate and drunk good, you know 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:29.040 what I'm saying. 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.600 Like I said, we were sitting there, libations was there, 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:33.920 but it just was like if I had to count 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.000 count the people on hand in two hands, probably no 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.400 more than ten people, you know. And because I heard 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.959 the craziness that goes on. And then I also went 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.200 to Drin james On. I was there for his when 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.640 he got picked, and I remember the big party we had. 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.879 But that was like that was crazy because he didn't 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:49.280 expect to go in front of Ricky Winn. 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:50.000 Yeah, it was. 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:51.679 It was a surprise that they went up and got 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:52.160 him first. 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.840 So and you know on that Ricky Williams trade they 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.399 traded with Washington, y'all know that right out of that 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:01.480 Ricky Williams trade, we got champed LeVar Are, Like we 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.640 got pics out of that thing, because you know we 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.720 were Buddy was tripping. Who got wicked? Wims? So what 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:09.680 his name is? He gave up the house, He gave 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:11.320 up the house. He gave up the house. Now you 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:13.520 know I had on the fresh hot white suit, you know, 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.200 but I was with my family, you. 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.240 Know, tried to look like he was getting dressed for 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:20.359 Easter Sunnay, no, he ain't. Probably taking none of the 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:24.159 festivities on Easter, singing in the choir. But it was 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.440 just me and my family. You know, we're chilling, man, 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.240 like it's another day for me. Like I said, I 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:29.240 wanted destination. 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.879 I was so caught up on where am I I 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.639 want to know the city, like so I can look 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:36.800 at the roster first of all, to see who's on 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:37.280 the roster. 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:38.960 To tell me this, I didn't ask you this question 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.760 before knowing that who you were as a player, because 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:45.080 you was a corner that arguably no one could no 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.280 one could deny that you was one to talk in 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:49.920 our class when you saw the other two guys, did 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:50.480 that bother you? 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.560 They bother me because you knew, Like damn it bothered me. 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:57.280 But I know it wasn't Nay fault No, it wasn't. Yeah, 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.240 so it bother me in a way, But I also 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:00.760 I was like, some good gonna come out of this, 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.639 And the blessing was I came here and coming to 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:05.919 wash this not only did I find a team I 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:07.840 want to be on, but I found home. Now I 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.359 live here, this is my home. I can't say going 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:13.440 to some of them other cities with that in my heart. 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:14.240 That'd have been your home. 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:16.760 And then did you guys fly out that same night 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:18.520 and go to the team or where they flew you up? 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:20.439 Well, well, I don't know what the jes. 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.160 They just told me, man, enjoy your time many family. 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:25.919 I didn't come up to them when until it was 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.640 time to go to Bractice. Oh really yeah, man to Minicamp. 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.360 I didn't come to Minico They private jeedged us up 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.200 and show coached me and old Rod Gordoner. 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.200 So they treated us like I would say, it's crazy 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.680 because Rob go and got picked before me. And that's 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:42.719 that's how this thing, how backwards it is, how crazy 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:44.920 it gets because like when I saw Rod, like I said, 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.680 I cared less if they picked ten receivers in front 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.600 of me, Like I said, me getting picked that day 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.560 with everything. So when I saw Rod gotten, the first 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:54.600 thing part of my head like, that's the team that 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:55.959 everybody told me I was going to. 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:57.760 Look they pick. 0:20:57.520 --> 0:20:59.920 Had no clue of the story that went on here, 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:03.000 didn't know nothing. I was like, oh, I got picked 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:03.600 the next pick. 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:07.040 It didn't match though we already had Michael Ritzbrook. We 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:10.240 already got a six four wide receiver while you're drafting 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:11.720 another big old dude. 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.119 What was crazy is every year so I get to 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.679 New York and I'm in training camp, mini camp. So 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:20.040 the guy who you a lot of people know of 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:23.680 now Lockett, who's in the league, Lockett uncle was Kevin Lockett. 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:26.280 Yeah, played here, He played here, and he got traded 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:26.680 to us. 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:29.040 And the first thing he told me said, bro Dan 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:33.720 Snyder and sh and Shot Shottenheimer. Uh, the heads on 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.680 that pick, because Shot Dan Snyder wanted you the whole time. 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:38.280 It was you on his board. 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.760 And Scheintehaimen went opposite and got a tar receiver. And 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:42.600 I promise you, I swear to god, it was the crazy. 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:46.560 The next that off season, Schottenheim got fired and Dan 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.840 Snyder called my agent trying to trade for me, and 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:51.920 it just was like nah. So he tried to trade 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:53.600 every year into the year I came, and that's the 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:55.600 year he didn't try and incoming. 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.520 And I was taking it out on Roddy Press because 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:00.280 I had just played against Roddy at Clemson. We just 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:02.520 blewed him out. I had him to like zero yolids 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.160 and every day practice because I was still lashing out 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.840 because I had been dropped into Drea. I would say, 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:11.920 this is who y'all picked before me, the same guy 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.760 that I shut down. This is what y'all doing. And 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.440 so I was like really high scruggs. You see now 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.080 the stories. Once I get high scrug on something, I 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:20.719 don't let it go. 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.159 Did How'd Rod take it? Was pissed about that? 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:26.840 Gave no il. 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:29.560 Yeah, I came out and played some football and kept 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.399 it going. I don't know Rod like that, but just 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:34.520 being around them, it's easy going dude, man. 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:36.840 Yeah, Yeah, they don't care about that. So that's a 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.239 little bit about their draft stories and what's going on 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.440 and why they didn't go uh and why I would 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.600 never also go to the green room for the draft. 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:46.359 But there are here's the list of the guys that 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:48.800 are going to be going. And of this list, I 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:50.919 think we should talk about guys that we think are 0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.879 maybe maybe you should watch out guys that could be 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:55.960 commanders and fall to us at twenty nine. So let's 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:59.880 start Tyler Brooker reguards from Alabama, Johan Campbell whinebacker from Alabama, 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:03.440 Will Campbell attacking from LSU, Abdul Carter obviously edge from 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:07.400 Penn State, Matthew Golden wide receiver Texas, Mason Graham DT 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:10.800 for Michigan, Travis Hunter wide receiver Colorado, and Ash Jend 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:14.160 running back Boise State. Well Johnson Fred's guy from Michigan 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:19.560 cornerback Tetro McMillan, wide receiver Arizona. Jalen Millroe quarterback Alabama, 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:24.760 Malachi Starks Georgia safety Shamar Stewart edge text A M. 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:27.800 Cam Ward quarterback Miami. I think it'll be the first pick, 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.480 and then Maxwell Harriston cornerback Kentucky. 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:31.960 You say, all of these guys and. 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:35.000 They are attending the draft, all of these all right now, 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:36.680 right now, right now, they could. 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:38.600 Walk out, but as of the day before the draft, 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:39.600 they're the one schedule. 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:42.399 Can we go down here and say who should not, 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:47.240 who should not tim who should not? Come on? 0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.440 Like some guy just I look at this list and 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:53.040 the guy the name that is and everyone's talking about it, 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:57.280 Nashally the names it's it's flashing in yellow neon lights 0:23:57.359 --> 0:24:00.560 is Jaalen Milroe. And I like Milroe, but I don't 0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:02.720 like him as a first round player. 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:05.720 But how many times do we see them reach full quarterback? 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:10.040 Like that's like the ultimate reach position and hic go 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.080 to think about it. Once they got a good COUMP 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.600 for you, and now they got him comped as a 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:19.040 faster version. Yeah, somebody gonna say, you know what, we 0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.200 can draft it, just it's not start them. And if 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.119 I'm not gonna start him, I need to get that 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:25.480 fifth year. And the only way to get that fifth 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.199 years to draft him in the first round. So I 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.040 think it's more strategy then. 0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:31.520 Is he ready? Yeah? 0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:33.840 You know, I think I think a team like Pittsburgh 0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:38.280 just just salivating. I can't wait to draft him and 0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.200 put him behind so and so and so and so 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:41.160 and let him grow. 0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:43.240 You know what's crazy about the draft just seeing from 0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:45.359 the years of us coming up in this game and 0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:50.320 everyone wanted that prototypical quarterback, the one who can you know, 0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:53.600 dissect you from the pocket, you know, manipulate you and everything, 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.600 and has a you know, quick release. 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:56.320 The Peyton man. 0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:59.040 He's the you know, the Tom Brady's, you know, even 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:00.920 to bless those you know, I mean those guys of 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.240 before our time, during our time, you watch them talk 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.800 highly of if they found any quarterback with any inkling 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:10.920 of that you know caliber in that game they wanted 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:11.920 fast forward. 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:13.840 To today's game. What's today's game. 0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:17.960 Been Jayden Hurts or Jayden Daniels or Lamar Jackson. 0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:19.760 It's the mobile quarterbacks. 0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:21.880 So when you see a guy, you see a guy 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.840 like Merros who you know, he's mobile. The things he 0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:29.160 did last year outside the pocket, running seventy plus yard touchdowns. People, 0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.720 those those those those coaches now saying that we could 0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.239 just get him in the beat half as good as 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.879 he was throwing the ball, better. 0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:39.200 Better than what he showed last year. 0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:42.480 This year and he can still give us that capability 0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.280 of running outside the pocket. We got ourselves something, you know, 0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:48.240 they they want the next best thing like they've seen 0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.040 that's taking these teams the distance. So that's why I'm 0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:52.720 not surprised that he's on that list. 0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:54.959 That what coaches do they see someone and say I 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:58.199 can fix it. Ain't that the arrogance of when your 0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.119 coach you brought up Pittsburgh. That's the place I can 0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:04.680 see him going and kind of finding his way because 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:05.720 had a great coach. 0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:08.200 Is now a great had a great office of coordinator 0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:10.800 who knows how to use the quarterback quarterback. Yeah, so 0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.199 it's like, bro, if they defense can stay their defense 0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:14.400 and then he could go out there and. 0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:17.600 Just grow into the game. Yeah, bro, I can see 0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:18.119 you know. 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.600 And he is the dynamic athlete. Ran on sub four 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:22.639 four forty at his pro day. He can throw the 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:25.480 ball and he rocked up. And I think that maybe 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:28.240 the most important thing that we as analysts watching film 0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:30.040 don't get to see is I have heard his football 0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:33.840 character is off the charts, like leadership like you know 0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:38.600 you mentioned the Hurts compared with yea like great leader, dynamic. 0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.359 In the locker room, people gravitate towards him. He's gonna study, 0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.680 gonna get better. I think if I know coaches, they're 0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:46.360 gonna have an interview with him, and it's gonna be like, oh, 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.360 this dude's the dude. 0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:49.320 So tell me this. 0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.040 Because you've been coaching for a long time on the 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.119 high school level and you come here, you talk to 0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.199 us a lot about certain guys you watch and you 0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:57.679 see and why you don't like him or why you 0:26:57.720 --> 0:26:59.800 think that he might get not you know that not 0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.520 because of something you saw. If you was a guy 0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:05.760 and you say, okay, where he's at, he's not a 0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:09.240 finished product, but what he could be? Would you take 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.760 a chance on him being at you coach offenses and 0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:13.240 you saw his skill sets? 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:15.359 Yeah, so I do like Milroe. I just said that 0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:18.560 I think he's maybe like this is not being hyperbolic. 0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.880 He's maybe one of the best runners in the class, right, 0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.439 Like he's dynamic r. Yeah. I think the problem is 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.399 like the lack of consistency throwing the football. Seems like 0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:29.000 he's got to take a huge step to get there, 0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.439 which makes me a little bit nervous about him, right because, 0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:33.080 like I was talking to some other people that I 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:34.520 have a lot of respect for, and it's like, yeah, 0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.400 he can run, he's got the leadership, but ultimately got 0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.320 to throw the football. And you look at Hurts for example, 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.560 he sat for like basically a year and a half, yeah, 0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.280 and was able to develop and grow and work on 0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:47.359 his mechanics and improve. Is he going to be afforded 0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.080 that same opportunity and is he going to improve the 0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:49.440 same way. 0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.200 He has to have the opportunity to blossom. 0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:53.600 Now he goes think about him. 0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:57.120 I heard that I found very similar because they both jacked. 0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.840 They first thing is to throw hard. When Jalen went 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.960 to Oklahoma, he started to throw with touch and that 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.720 was a throwing team with a head coach. They love 0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:09.200 to throw the. 0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:09.679 Ball all that. 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:11.840 They probably gave him that insight to do so too. 0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.520 Yes, So I just think once he learned to take 0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:18.479 a little bit off the ball and actually anticipate, like 0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.399 he wanted the guy because he's I'm so strong. He 0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.480 wait till you get out, till you get and then 0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:23.640 you can try to jam. 0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:23.960 It in there. 0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:25.919 Like I just feel like if you get around some 0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:29.200 pro coaching and build him up, he'll start to really 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:29.680 throw the ball. 0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:31.240 I just want to say, man, get we talk at 0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:34.000 nause him about you know, I guess you can say 0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.480 developing players, and I hate it because you see a 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.160 lot of guys getting into the league and you know 0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.080 they don't get developed because it's almost like they're getting 0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:43.120 rushed to be out there. 0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.040 Michael, ready, you see what I'm saying. 0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.200 And so this is a This is a guy that 0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.800 I would love to see him a couple of years 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:51.720 down the road after the team took that chance and 0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:53.400 see him and get to the point to where we're 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.280 talking about now at throwing the ball, going how to 0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.480 get rid of the ball, anticipating pass because if you can, 0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:01.640 if you find a way to get him there. Yeah, 0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:04.360 with everything else, man, like you say, the leadership qualities, 0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.200 the way he runs runs with the football, that's where 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.320 the game is going. That's where these teams want those 0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.880 kind of players because they want to they understand those 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.040 guys that's on the defensive edges now and in the 0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:19.240 interior getting way bigger, faster, stronger. We need somebody that 0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:21.920 can be able to move outside pond it fix. And 0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.000 I'm not I'm not questioning coaches or or teams that's 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:27.600 saying that, hey, this might be a guy that we 0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.120 can bring in and get them court to speed. 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:31.040 To be a better quarterback for us. 0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:31.240 Yeah. 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:32.720 I think when you look at the ball of clay 0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:35.000 with Jalen Milroe, it's definitely there. Right. I think the 0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:36.880 problem you hit this tennis, So I'm just kind of 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.320 reiterating what you just said is the problem with the 0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:42.120 NFL is that it's not a developmental league. Now basically 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:43.120 they say, oh, you can't do it, I'm going to 0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.200 get someone else, and they literally like I've had that conversation. 0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.480 I want the new thing, so like, oh, I can't 0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.680 teach you to do this, shoot, I can find someone 0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.480 to do that. And that's where I think the difference 0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:54.000 between good coaches and kind of mediacre coaching the NFL 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.640 level wise is the lack of development. So interesting conversation 0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:59.720 there about Jealen Milrolle. Hopefully it works out. Hopefully it's 0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.080 gone early one their. 0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.160 Team like be the Raiders, tell you the truth? 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:08.040 Sitting behind Geno and and literally and you know, you 0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:11.360 know that boy that he's like a quarterback whisper Pete Carroll. 0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:12.600 Pete Carroll hate ho. 0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.320 He know so much? He known for office right, he's 0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.320 been on defense. 0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.360 I was always questioned that because when I knew that, 0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:21.760 you know, d Q was over there, I'm like, well, 0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:23.200 who got the knock? 0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:25.400 You know, we go with his defense or did he 0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.880 go with Q? You learned from him is how to 0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.320 be the whole post of the whole team there with 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:31.959 Pete Carroll, do listen. 0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:33.480 I love Pete carricters. 0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.640 He hates on high by at the high level. No 0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:39.920 matter where how I go, Pete Carris popper, you like 0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.480 to see a round. First of all, Stanford was that 0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.240 Stanford winning when Andrew Lugez who popped up Pete Carrolls 0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:49.840 at UNC winning Nation championship. So guess what? How about 0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:51.960 said he gonna going to the league. Where you going? 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.440 I'm going to the forty nine ers, pet Cats? All right, 0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:58.080 I'm going to Seattle win the super Bowl? 0:30:58.160 --> 0:30:58.320 There. 0:30:58.560 --> 0:30:59.520 I guess what I think? 0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:00.640 Carbark after him? 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.960 No, well, how ball came back to college? Right, Pete 0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:06.600 Carroll tied? Then how about said I'm going back to 0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.520 the league. Get what Pete Canzie pumped up? I'm coming 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.680 right back up and you're gonna be in my saint Yeah, 0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:17.440 yes I am, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:19.240 I don't think the Raiders taking them at six. 0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.200 No, I'm talking about get back in the bottom of 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.440 the first. Get back in the bottom of the first. 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.440 Take genty with your first peak. That's a win that peak, 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.640 and then take a win later peak and meal Roads 0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:30.840 putting behind Geno. 0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.280 All right, let's talk about let's make this a little 0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.240 bit more commander centric, because I don't think they're going 0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:36.920 to take a quarterback. I don't think they're taking Jalen 0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.120 Miller in the first round at twenty nine. That doesn't 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:42.360 feel like something the commanders are going to do because 0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.000 we got a really good one here already. 0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.120 So they make it whole off a meal road because 0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:50.120 the eye guy was ready like ready ready, ready ready. 0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:54.160 All right, So of this list, do you see a commander? 0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:55.560 And while you guys are looking, I just want to 0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:57.280 say a couple of things. I think there's three or 0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:59.560 four guys at the top they're going to go really early. 0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:03.120 And those guys are Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter, cam Ward. 0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.600 Those are three guys. I'm gonna throw Mason Graham in 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:07.160 there too, but it's I think he could slide a 0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:08.880 little bit, but I think he's gonna be Johnson in 0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.960 there too. Yeah. But see, so to me everybody else 0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.280 that I didn't mention, I could see them going anywhere 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:18.680 from six to thirty five. And like that doesn't mean 0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:20.320 I don't like the players. I just think when you 0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.520 talk to people in this draft, like I had a 0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:25.440 conversation with someone yesterday about Will Johnson and it was like, oh, 0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:27.560 he's fortieth on my board and I was like, you're 0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.520 you're a liar, Like, there's no way that's true. He 0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:34.160 was being dead seriously. So it's again it's this year 0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:37.760 specifically is so subjective, so that with that throwing that 0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:39.920 out there, I think all these guys have the potential 0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.080 to take a slide. I think Ashton Genty probably goes 0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.000 in the tent like the high twenties, late teens, and 0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.040 in a worst case scenario, but if he did take 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.080 a slide, like it wouldn't totally surprise me because the 0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.200 running back value if they can get a blue chip guy. 0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:56.560 But one guy in particular that I think fits this 0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:59.240 mold or embodies this at the highest level as Tyler Booker, 0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:02.040 the guard from Alibai. So I've seen him mocked in 0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.080 the top ten. I've also seen him in the bottom 0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:08.200 of the second round. Yeah, him over to play, and 0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.520 I do think just from what I've heard about him 0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:14.120 that he is a Commander's football player. He is everyone 0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:17.360 says his intangibles are excellent. He's like the leader of 0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:20.200 the offense and he plays left guard right. He finishes. 0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.320 He's a little slow footed, but he's long, he's big. 0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.040 He's like three twenty five. He's six six, He's got 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.040 these thirty four thirty five inch arms. So he's just 0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.600 a big man, strong man. He's going to get better. 0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.360 He can play all three interior positions. And so if 0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:34.720 he were to take a little bit of a skid 0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:37.000 and he's sitting there at twenty nine, like, I think 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.200 that just from like the off field stuff, the way 0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:41.400 he plays the game, could totally be a commander. And 0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:43.240 I've brought that up to fans are like, I'm not I 0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:45.560 don't want to take a guard. Think about this. You 0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:50.520 got Laramie Tunsel, got Tyler Booker. Yeah, you got Beatish 0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.200 in this at center be Cosmey and then Brandon Coleman 0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:55.760 like that all of a sudden becomes a one of 0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.239 the missus. Lad. I just like that, just like that, 0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:00.720 And so that to me is one that I think 0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:01.560 would be really interesting. 0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:03.440 Well I will one up you with this. 0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:04.960 Hey, let's go for it, all right. 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.400 Since you went to Alabama, I'm going to the lone 0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.799 star state of Texas. We got Matt through Golden. I'm 0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.160 gonna do Golden because he adds an element that's not 0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.040 on this team right now. It's just flat out gas patch. 0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.000 I'm talking about a guy that just can flat out 0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.160 a clear our king is what I call some players 0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.080 as a dB. When we see him on the field, 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.120 we already know what route they got. They don't mean 0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.520 you can stop it, but we already know what route 0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:29.879 you got. Do you know what met through? Golden could 0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:33.440 open up for Debo intermediately? Well, he can open up 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:37.840 for zach Ertz intermediately. Like this dude becomes an instant 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:40.640 check with me player when he comes in the game. Hey, 0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.680 met through in the game? Safety get back a little bit. 0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:45.719 That just opened up a fifteen year old wonder for 0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.960 them to hit a dacker. So sometime it ain't about 0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:51.000 to yours you bring, It's about what can you do 0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:52.040 for your teammates? 0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:54.040 I say, Golden right there? Do you think he plays 0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:55.960 that fast? I think I think he's a he's the 0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.120 mind of world wide receiver. I think he plays incredibly. 0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.160 He does the fundamentals really well. 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.520 Like is he explosive? That's what I don't know. If 0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:03.359 he's verticed, I don't. 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.360 I don't care about how fast you are in running 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.479 your rounds. I wanted I want to When he gets 0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:10.520 the ball is when he gets the ball in his hand, 0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.840 can't he He's just shaken around the phone boot and 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:13.479 get down here. 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:14.640 Gets separate separation. 0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.359 He gets separation, and I see, I know what you're 0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:22.280 hitting that he gets separation. Is he totally polished? 0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:23.320 No? 0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.000 Do he play with to the top of his speed 0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:29.799 dominant all the time. No, But guess what, that's why 0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:33.600 you got these guys in this building to help mold players. 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:35.400 Like he hasn't reached his ceiling. 0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.839 And that's what I like in a draft. I don't 0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.399 want to finish product. So if we were to take 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:42.680 Matthew Golden twenty nine, I'd be ecstatic because he's like, 0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.920 he's my number one receiver above tet Tram McMillan. Oh 0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:47.680 do you yeah? He can stop start, he can. He 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:49.560 doesn't do any speeding it out of his cuts ten 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.640 He catches the football like with great body control. Again, 0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:55.640 like he ran a four two nine or for whatever 0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.680 it was, for three two, whatever it was. He's fast, 0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.280 But I don't know if I've ever seen him run 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.520 that fast, Like you know, like when you watch Maxwell Harrison, 0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:06.920 You're like that dude's fast. Yeah, because Golden as I'm 0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:08.280 always like how fast. 0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.719 They go with some of you got so relaxed that 0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:16.279 they don't look like Jameson Williams. Jameson Williams, he got 0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:19.640 this loan scribe and I'd be like, oh, he moving, 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:22.680 but it don't look like he moving. You see what 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:26.560 I'm saying. What you mean deceptive speed? Yeah, decept speed? 0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.000 No, I'm with you on that. So he's an in 0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.960 string one. I mean him and Tetra McMillan both. I 0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:32.759 think I think I can see Tetro taking a little 0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.200 bit of sliding and being there like is that likely 0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:39.239 to happen to me? Probably not, but could it happened? Absolutely, Drake. 0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:41.480 I love to see you know, I tell y'all that 0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:43.239 you know, I'm gonna keep going with Mike Green. I 0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.359 love to see him, you know, sliding and slide one 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.200 down and got him going at twenty eight to who 0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:49.600 that who does in front of us? 0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:50.080 Detroit? 0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:52.919 Yeah, I love to see Detroit say ah be food, 0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:53.960 Jo want somebody else? 0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:55.439 And he'd be sitting right there for the taking. 0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:57.759 But then they got to do Maxwell Harrison going to 0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.759 us at twenty nine on some people mock so mean 0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:03.359 like I couldn't. I wouldn't deny that because I look 0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.320 at our defense in the back situation. Now, it's great 0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.640 to have depth. We have some guys there that's capable. 0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:10.840 We have a guy who we we guess we just 0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.680 traded for last year late in the season and not 0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:15.680 knowing how long he's going to be around the league. 0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:17.520 It'll be great to bring in a guy we just 0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.560 talked about how fast he was and playing in this defense. 0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:22.160 Man. We could just just. 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.120 Just picture him in this defense with these coaches and 0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.480 this staff man. You can see that guy being one 0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:29.160 of the top guys along with Santa Steel. So, you know, 0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.560 so many guys, like we say, you don't know what's 0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:34.600 going to happen. But if I had to pick two, 0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:37.000 those two stand out to me because I love Mike Green, 0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:39.320 knowing that we just got rid of a guy like Fouler. 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:39.719 You know what I mean. 0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:42.400 He has that same body type to me, like, you know, 0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:47.799 not so big, fast, twitchy. You know, I'm sure he 0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:49.680 can learn a lot from some of those guys who's 0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:52.440 already there. If we don't get him, then Max would 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.040 be the next guy that I can see that, you know, 0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:55.240 I love to be a commander. 0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:57.960 Yeah, And I think, uh, I think that's a great point. 0:37:57.960 --> 0:37:59.520 I think there's a very good chance he could be 0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.479 there at twenty nine. We'll see. But the other guy 0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:05.000 I have, I have a very high grade on Malachi Starks. 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.880 He's like my tenth player, tenth player in the first round. 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:11.000 But I think he's like I've seen Mox where he 0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:14.360 takes a slide and I think he says that the flexibility, 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.600 the nickel, the safety ability. And then Shamar Stewart also 0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:19.000 like some people have him as high of eight, some 0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:21.560 people have him in the sixties. I think in terms 0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.800 of physical play style, athletic upside, you know, just the 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.040 kind of wired the right way from a competitor. 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:28.319 Staple, Well, it scares me. 0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:30.280 But at twenty nine, though, is it that scary? 0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:34.560 No, No, what scares me is I'm a film dude. 0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:37.200 I want to see you go make plays against other 0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:41.239 college players. I'm with you, and this dude numbers jump 0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:46.360 off the board forty vertical bitch bris And then I 0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:49.520 look at his production. Yeah, and he got forts do 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:50.480 we even got four. 0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:52.200 Sacks in four years, four and a half sacks of 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:53.160 the last two years. 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:55.960 So so all I'm saying is, if you ain't get 0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.440 them sacks on the college key, can I say that 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:00.600 you're gonna te in the corner. 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:02.720 What we were just talking about that this staff does 0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:03.239 really well. 0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:05.440 Yeah, they set you up and put you in And 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:05.879 I just. 0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:07.880 Think about I think about my guy Ryan Kerrigan. I 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:11.279 think about Darryl Tappa working with one of the freakiest 0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:15.080 athletes ever to come through the combine. And and yet dude, Freddy, 0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:16.839 yet he like had a very good pressure for so 0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:18.759 he got to it, want it up. I'm just saying, 0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:20.560 we just get that guy going in the right direction. 0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:24.560 Put it in nine man at twenty nine. Yeah, And 0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:25.920 I know what you're saying. I agree with you. I 0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:27.400 agree with you. I agree, But I'm just saying, like 0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:28.239 you just said twenty nine. 0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.279 It's like I'm saying that if you saw, if you, 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:32.719 if me and you was in the GM and that 0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:34.960 we was in the scout thing, and he was like, hey, 0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:36.440 fred I want you to check this guy out. He's 0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.719 a wide receiver with six feet tall, runner four to 0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:42.319 two forty, And I'm like, oh my god, how many 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.120 catches he got in conte He ain't got a bout four? 0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:47.560 What can I do with that? 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:49.680 No, but I will. So this is the thing about 0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:53.280 defensive alignment right, if they have a good athletic profile. 0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:56.560 Ideally you want both good athletic profile the production. Then 0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.319 that's like Jared Verst last year, just to put that 0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:01.040 thing on the tee heat it out of the park. 0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.840 If they have good athletic production. There are case studies 0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:07.080 where that does work out. And I'm saying later in 0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:10.359 the first round in a weaker draft, when you're like that, 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.359 the ceiling on that is sky high. 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.680 But but what would be the what is the reason 0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:19.839 and behind that lack of productive What. 0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:20.160 Is the reason? 0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.600 What is the reason behind that lack of productivity that 0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:25.040 will give you the right to say that I still 0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:25.520 want to take. 0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:28.160 A chance because it's the athletic profile, the profile. 0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.640 But also like you played a lot of like tight 0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:33.200 to the tackle five technique four, I like not hard 0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:35.839 to rush the pass from there. Right, They were really 0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:37.839 worried about the r PO zone read stuff. So they're 0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:41.680 kind of doing all this and so I do. But 0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:43.080 like when he flashes. 0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.440 Man, so you see the flash, You see that he has. 0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:45.680 It in him. 0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:48.160 When you go to the Senior Bowl, man, when you 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:49.919 watch so this is sener Bowl is like the best 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:52.320 players in the country, right, Like the best college players, 0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:57.000 and when that dude comes onto the field, it he's bigger, 0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:00.000 he's stronger, he's faster than every single person on the field. 0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:02.719 Is he the most refined person? No, but watching him 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.600 bull rush Emery Jones, like lift him up like he's 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.200 a small child and throw him into the quarterback in 0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:11.319 one on ones. Yeah, just like we can figure it out. Yeah. 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.000 See, I'm more, especially when you got other guys twenty nine. 0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:16.840 I'm not saying take that top taglet in my ingredients. 0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.080 I'm more. I walked the player. They love the game 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.480 more than I like the player. The God's gift like 0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:23.200 God's guilt. 0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.640 And this is a it's a great it's a great point. 0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:27.480 Like if we had an interview with him and he 0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:31.040 was a bad interview, Yeah, but if he's like ready 0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:32.920 to go, I just want to get better. Yeah, Like 0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:34.719 that's a different thing. And that's why those thirty visits 0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:36.280 are so important. That's why the meetings of the combined 0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.080 are so important. But I do think when you look 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.799 at this list, like I'd say, there's six guys that 0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:42.520 could fall down in twenty nine that would be very good. 0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:44.759 I asked this question because I always thought in first 0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:48.120 round selections. You want a guy that can capable be 0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.759 coming in play right now at what number you get 0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:52.359 to in the first round where you say, okay, these 0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:55.279 are guys that I'm taking their press on that I 0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:55.799 feel like, I just. 0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:57.839 Don't want him to go nowhere else, fall nowhere else. 0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:00.000 So I just did my big board, my top one hundre, 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.560 which is now on the Commander's website. You know how 0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:07.120 many people having Tier one, three, three, three? Yeah, you 0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:09.479 know people haven't tiered in the second tier. Who would 0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:13.319 be fifty sixty plus no tier two? So like I 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:16.200 have five, So there's eight players that I'm like, there's 0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:18.920 a reasonable chance to become good starters. So one to 0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:24.560 eight we're okay. After that, it's it's a yeah, it's 0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:26.840 it's beauty is in the ether beholder. And that's what 0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:29.960 I'm saying with this people that are coming here, it's like, yeah, man, 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.000 Like there's a lot of names I hear that people like, 0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.640 no way they're gonna be there twenty nine. I'm telling you, yeah, 0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.400 I'm telling you you're gonna see some crazy stuff in 0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:38.719 this draft that we have. 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:43.319 We've seen it for years for years that didn't have 0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:44.880 a lick of film, but you. 0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:46.040 Ran four different thrown. 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.439 Know, this feels more erratic than I have ever seen 0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:53.200 any year, Like even to the point where I'm here. 0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:56.279 You know how you you get your lip brother something 0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:58.920 he like, I don't want it, but I take it anyway. 0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:04.759 This draft feel I don't want cam Ward, but I'm 0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:08.239 taking me anyway. You know, it's this, It's like we 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:12.640 forced the boy this stuff. Yeah you're picking, and it's 0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:14.520 like nobody won't go to the grocery store. Like it's 0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.680 like everybody like, yeah, yeah, whatever. But I'm like, to me, 0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.080 this is the most blue collar after having this Star 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:24.239 Study draft last year, this is blue collar. So this 0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:26.799 is what I'm saying. It's a tons of starters in 0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.680 this draft. It might not be tons of Pro Bowlers 0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.200 and Hall of Famers, but when I say tons of guys, 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.440 if you know, how should I say run some guys 0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:35.320 out of the league. 0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:36.400 A lot of these guys. 0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:38.480 Are gonna replace a lot of Star Wars guys. 0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:40.320 I have a question hater. 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:47.799 Here. So because they're all kind of bunched up, how 0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.759 important is like the thirty visits he interview process and 0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.399 stuff like that that we're not privy to and most 0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:55.160 of the national media is and privy to that's going 0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:56.360 to decide a lot of disorder. 0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:58.239 That's the most intimate time you got with them. 0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:00.799 I don't want to say it. Some most it's the 0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:02.680 most important the film. The film's most important. 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.400 But then it's like, yeah, but when I say intimate type, 0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:07.440 I don't feel like the combine is intimate. But I 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:08.640 want to come get out of this. 0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:10.399 I want I wonder how much the coaches get out 0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:12.040 of there just having that sit down with those guys. 0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.680 Because you've got so many other guys around, you know, 0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:18.120 you're not really getting the I'm just talking about these 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.440 little visits when they film and meet like with four 0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:21.640 or five other guys, you know. 0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:23.759 So what I'd say is you asked me something about 0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:26.120 like coaching high school ball, and what the like, the 0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:28.160 main thing of high school ball is is getting to 0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.839 know the kid. And if I know the kid, I 0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:32.479 know what they can do. I know how they're wired 0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:35.120 enough to communicate with them. I'm like, okay, that's like 0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:38.160 that's literally more important than talent, more important than. 0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:40.120 Peopel, Like you can least kind of lead him to 0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:41.520 put on them. 0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:44.000 And so that's what these visits are about you know 0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:46.920 what I'm saying. It's like, can this guy Shamar Stewart's 0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:50.480 a great example who was an athletic freak. Is he 0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:53.520 mentally wired in a way that I can communicate with him? 0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:55.560 Do I want to communicate with him? Is he a 0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.080 big idiot? I remember I had a meeting with a 0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:00.279 guy talking with the coach last year, and I said, 0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:02.880 what do you think about player so and so? He's 0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:04.480 a good player, but I don't like him as a person. 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:06.360 So they're not gonna draft. 0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:07.960 Back because they don't, you know what I mean. 0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:09.600 And even though the kid like the film was greaty, 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:11.960 he's like, I just don't like them. And so that's 0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:14.000 where that is so important, because who you're going to 0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:16.520 invest more time with? The guy that you like, the 0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.120 guy that you're motivated to be around every day? 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:18.719 Yeah, that guy. 0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:20.879 And so that's where these visits it's just to give 0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:24.160 you an insight about like this is how Santanamos is wired, 0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:26.640 this is how Fred's Spoot's wired, and can I make 0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:27.000 this work? 0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:29.040 And we're gonna because I'm just I was just basically 0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:33.120 trying to piggyback off of Jason's question because just I 0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:35.200 remember being on visits and I'm like, man, it's too 0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:36.920 many guys for y'all to really get to know. You 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:40.200 might get asking questions to me, Like I know in 0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:42.120 my visits, they ain't get to know nothing about me 0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:44.839 because I'm in there. I barely said anything. When they 0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:46.600 pull my film up, I sat down in the bag. 0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.400 It's like, oh yeah, everybody, I want to see his film. 0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:51.359 And then the guys like, oh, well he was a 0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:53.440 hands catcher. I didn't think you they were ready to 0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:53.880 knock me. 0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:54.560 You know what I'm saying. 0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:57.120 But that was those are the guys that was competing 0:45:57.160 --> 0:45:59.600 against you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm sitting there a choir. 0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:01.600 So the I remember we was in Kansas City and 0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:05.800 the guy was like, it's oh damn, what his name Winston? 0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:08.239 Because we had I had his brother in New York. 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.520 But it's crazy. That's probably why he got me. But 0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:13.200 his brother in Casey at the time forgot his name. 0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:13.759 I'm gonna be mad. 0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:15.960 It's gonna come up to me later. He saved my 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:19.040 highlight for last. And I remember one of the guy's 0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:22.279 not draft class. He actually went to what did he 0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.239 go to k C? He wore eighty nine. He went 0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:25.920 to he went to Green Bay. What his name is 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:26.600 from Texas? 0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:30.399 Oh, I know exactly who you talk about. You gonna 0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:33.920 hit me. So when he put it on, he's like, oh, yeah, 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:37.239 I'm finna. I want to see this everybody. I'm like, well, 0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:41.640 damned Robert Ferguson. Ferguson and Rob Robin my boy. 0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:42.120 Yeah. 0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:44.759 And then after he watched the highlight, say, oh, I 0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:46.240 ain't know he was a hands catcher. 0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:48.560 I thought he caught everything with his butt. I'm like, 0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.120 only when I got to buddy, not just laughed at off. 0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:53.359 So the guy told me he hit me, Say, I 0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.399 did that on purpose because I know you the only 0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:58.319 guy here ain't bragging about yourself yet and you our 0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:00.360 guy on our list, but we know we gonna be 0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:03.000 able to get you. But getting back to what I 0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:05.360 was talking about, you don't really get a chance to 0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.400 know these guys for that little bit of time you 0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:09.280 have them, especially when they're around the other guys. 0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:11.919 I think it's interesting because like even in that conversation, like. 0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:14.040 They got to know his dad knew a little bit 0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:14.720 about coach. 0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:16.480 Knew you, got to know you. The coach knew a 0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:19.000 little bit about Ferguson, and like that's why they took 0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:21.319 him a talk golf last year, right, see how they 0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:24.399 interact and that's really what you're trying to figure out, 0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:25.200 right if it works. 0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:28.600 So yeah, I know because I had a coach, because 0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:30.920 I took a trip to Casey meet Snoop Minis all. 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:33.759 This was on the same trip And first thing they 0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:35.960 wanted to do with me was put me on the chalkboard. 0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:39.600 And I thought it was just peak to see my 0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.880 football knowledge, i Q. I think they just want to 0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:44.920 see how communicated football because they want to ask me 0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.759 no question that I couldn't answer, like I'm zipping through 0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:49.400 that you donna do this, you gonna do this, do 0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:50.839 this right here, and if he moved right here, I'm 0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:53.400 gonna do this right So and I think they just 0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:56.240 want to see how because I was known as a trench, 0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:58.319 they won't know what do he really talked trans as 0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:01.640 he's just educated talking the AQ. So that's what it 0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:02.960 was about with me, No, And. 0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:04.600 I think that's right. And I think like one another 0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:06.960 thing I talked to somebody recently about like you know, 0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.399 if you're not going on thirty visits, what does that mean? 0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:10.080 Yeah? 0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:11.600 And they because you know you said, you didn't go 0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.359 on visits, right, They said, well, they know you, they 0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:17.200 know what you're about, so they don't need to know. 0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.239 So if you're coming on visits and they're trying to. 0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:24.320 And then also we forget how many times they reach. 0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:29.520 Out to those high school teachers, girlfriends, cousins. And when 0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:31.400 I say I bump into people in the street, they 0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:33.120 was like, yeah, I talked to the NFL for you, 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:36.600 and I'm like, they called you, yes, And it's like 0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:39.000 you get surprised by because you didn't know it was 0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:41.080 to that extent, like you know you not, damn you 0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:45.239 extremely trying to dive as deep as you can kid 0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:48.880 in the years. And it's crazy because that's one of 0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:51.680 the things like especially in certain households, like my dad 0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.160 always to tell me, man, your what do. 0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:54.600 You just say? 0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:56.959 The first impression is the best, you know what I'm saying, 0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.200 And so like whatever they think of you to me, 0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:01.839 even if you don't be about whatever you showed them, 0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:03.040 that's gonna. 0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:04.160 Be as lasting, you know what I mean. 0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:06.720 Last, And so I used to always say to myself regardless, 0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:08.600 if I'm gonna dude, when I get around my homeboys, 0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:10.799 I'd like to have fun when I come into this 0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:12.320 meeting and show them that I'm. 0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:13.520 By my business, you know what I'm saying. 0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:16.440 And you think back of all those people that you 0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:19.439 crossed paths with, whether you was a a hole tom 0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:21.200 or not, you'd be like, well, damn, I hope they 0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:23.319 ain't talk to the wrong I never cared because I 0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:24.800 know I've always been a cool dude, you know what 0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:26.319 I mean. Hey, look, I don't know you from nothing, 0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:27.560 so I ain't finna go out here and go out 0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:29.920 my way and be somebody that I ain't. But when 0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:31.279 you think about it, you'd be like, well, damn, that's 0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:34.279 why certain guys don't get a chance to see that 0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.719 team or two that may have a high grade on them, 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:38.200 because they found out. 0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:40.160 That maybe we don't want to bring that headache in here. 0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:42.040 You know what I'm saying. I heard you talking about 0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:43.319 it the other day. He was like, Look, I'm taking 0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:45.120 a chance on the guy who's a great football player. 0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:47.200 If he got a couple of problems, I can always 0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.759 coach that, get that get him around somewhere where we're 0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:50.439 gonna love on him. 0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:52.600 We'll get the best out here. Yes, especially if I 0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:55.839 got the right veterance in here, they're gonna make suit good. 0:49:56.239 --> 0:49:58.120 Like that's the thing about it, like what I had 0:49:58.200 --> 0:49:59.919 said that three four years ago. 0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.000 No, no, no, we just can't do it. 0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:04.000 We ain't got the capacity, all. 0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:06.040 Right, So that's gonna do it. For that section on 0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:07.840 the draft and the meetings and why it's important a 0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:09.560 lot to move the next thing and it's called sell 0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:10.640 me something. 0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:17.680 Good, tell me something, and so basically. 0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:19.279 I want we're all gonna pick a prospect and it 0:50:19.320 --> 0:50:20.719 doesn't need to be a fit for the commanders, but 0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:24.360 we're just gonna sell that player to you, the audience, 0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:25.960 and why do you like him? And you want to 0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:28.919 start because I was thinking about your royal sales pitch 0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:30.480 earlier and I thought that should be the. 0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:34.960 No. Listen, I just love just going back through that pitch. 0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:38.080 I just think he's a weapon, so a royal. 0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:42.080 Royal from Miami, talk from Miami. 0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:45.440 He's fast, he's big, he's wrong when you bring him 0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:48.360 in the game. The first question defensive coordinator got an X. 0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:53.439 Who am I putting on him? Safety, corner, linebacker, move guy. 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.640 I think he can do everything. He's a chest piece. 0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:59.680 The one thing I think when you when you're building 0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:03.400 an on me, you want an arsenal, all right. I 0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:05.759 just can't have one hundred tanks and no planes. I 0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:09.480 need to have tanks, planes, jeeps, automobiles. 0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:10.120 I need it all. 0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:13.160 I need diversity. I don't need all my tight ends 0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:14.680 to look the same. I don't need them to play 0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:16.640 the same. I don't want my running backs do all 0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:18.520 look the same. I don't want them to play the same, 0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:20.000 just like my wide receiver group. 0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:22.120 Do you add auroral to this? 0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:27.800 Like I told you, imagine gold line erth said tight 0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:32.799 with the motion debo to the backfield. Second motion is 0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:37.960 a roller coming across the formation. Once JD five starts 0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:40.040 to roll that way, you don't know what to do. 0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:42.839 You don't know who got who first of all. First 0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:44.239 thing they got to say is which one of us 0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:47.240 on debo? This's the argument between the cone in and safety. 0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:50.040 The next argument is between the safety and the linebacker. 0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:50.640 Who got a roar? 0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.480 Guess who that came open? Zach Hurtz for his one 0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:58.640 hundred and nineteen thousand touchdown. All I'm saying is that 0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:02.080 dude is a move piece. You can indeed you playing 0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:04.719 him sparely, all right, So it ain't like he a 0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:07.880 legit starter he just an alert, just like de Boys 0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:10.000 alert when he come in defensive playoff, were gonna alert 0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:11.959 with them to come in when they come in. 0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:12.359 As a pair. 0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:13.520 You don't know what to do. 0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:14.920 Don't add achola to it. 0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:18.759 Like it just one problem after another one. 0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:22.520 It's a great pitch. It's a really good I. 0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:25.920 Just say it's one problem after I already told you 0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:26.960 a great salesperson. 0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:27.960 So I'm I'm sold. 0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:31.560 So I just and I know the capabilities that he got, 0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:32.800 he would brains in his offense. 0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:35.640 I mean, damn yeah. So for me, I'm gonna take 0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:37.399 an easy one. I did it earlier today on ticket 0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:39.640 of the draft, and it's Jailen Travis. I have talked 0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:41.120 to a lot of people and I can't. I think 0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:43.080 I'm higher on him than a lot of people. But 0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:46.120 I look at for a late round tackle, you have 0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:49.759 to have some minimal thresholds to start in the NFL. Right, 0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:50.960 You have to have arm length, you have to have 0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:53.399 foot speed. So he's six seven and a half, big 0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:56.840 old house, he's three forty. He's got thirty five inch arms. 0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:58.680 You're running five to one forty at the combine. He's 0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:01.480 got a thirty five inch vertical he transferred from Princeton. 0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:04.799 So smart dude, t i Iowa State. You watch the 0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:06.800 first six games of the year at Iowa State struggled 0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:08.960 a bit. You watch the last six games that played 0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:11.600 really well. Has a really good feel for being big 0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:15.279 and being in the way, and for tackles who can 0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:19.440 pass protect, they usually find a way to play football 0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:22.440 in the nf home. That's exactly right. So when I 0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:25.640 look at him, I say, in a in a class 0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:29.440 that's devoid of tackle talent. Right at the top, it's thin, right, 0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:30.799 we just we've talked about yah because his. 0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:33.080 Questions about Willi camb we're coaching the bat like every 0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:33.880 lays one of them. 0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:36.359 Yeah. It's then at the top you move down, you're like, well, 0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:38.200 maybe Anthony Belton, but he's probably gonna be in the 0:53:38.200 --> 0:53:40.719 third round. Yeah, right, and Scranton have a pick there. 0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:43.920 You down the fourth, fifth round. There's nobody who can 0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:46.160 play tackle in the NFL, and out of tackers had 0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:48.239 to move to go and I see Jalen Travis and 0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:49.880 I'm like, that's the one that I hold up on 0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:52.239 a pedestal and say, if you need someone late to 0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:55.120 play right tackle in the NFL. Yeah, that's the guy. 0:53:55.280 --> 0:53:58.960 And so that's my sales pitch on Jalen track. They 0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:02.359 go to seven and a half three forty yeah, five 0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:06.120 thirty five inch vertical right like r V. 0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:08.520 Yeah, all right, just like telling the kids were going 0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:11.160 and we're going, we're going across the United States for the. 0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:13.600 Summer getting that RV and so for the for his 0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:16.279 moving skills, former basketball player, like I just feel like, 0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:18.680 yeah for a late round tackle, that's the guy you 0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:20.520 want to find. Yeah, yeah, so you got one of you. 0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:22.120 You've been big on Mike Green lately, but. 0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:23.160 I've been been on Mike Green. 0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:25.239 But I'm gonna go with somebody who's who's not in 0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:27.840 nobody's radar, and he's in a lot of people radar. 0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:30.360 But I know we talked about him earlier. Well we 0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:31.879 could go and y'all say, y'all ain't like the way 0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:36.480 you ran Asari? Sorry, Yeah, you know the reason why 0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.040 I'm gonna talk about him because me and my cousin. 0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:39.960 My cousin coached him at Florida State and. 0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:42.719 The first the first kid you know what he is, 0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:44.120 You know what I mean, Like we could sit here 0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:46.240 talk about we can sit here and talk about tangibly, 0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:49.240 but but I'm I want a guy that I know that's. 0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:50.759 Gonna be all about football. 0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:53.160 And then when you talking about Adam to a secondary 0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:55.320 where you know this is probably one one of the 0:54:55.400 --> 0:54:58.080 most improved secondaries in the whole NFL, I didn't hear it. 0:54:58.480 --> 0:54:59.080 I just saw it. 0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:01.160 I saw these guys go out there and bring in 0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:03.799 guys ad guys from the safety position, add guys from 0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:06.960 the cornerback position that I know this kid can learn from. 0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:08.920 Then you got another guy on the other side that 0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:11.640 just came in here and just played flat out. And 0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:15.000 Sandy still just think about what a younger guy going 0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:16.520 to come in and say, Okay, I want to be 0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:18.080 like that. I want to I want to be able 0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:20.239 to be too to what sentence to what picked sentence 0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:22.239 to bring what did you do last year that made 0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:23.840 you so special in this defense? 0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:25.680 And with the coaches, I don't have to. 0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:27.560 Say much, but the thing that I'm going to hold 0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:32.040 up high beyond tangibles and measurables and all that stuff. 0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:36.920 God here man we know that to him and knows football, 0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:39.960 all he wants to play is ball. He ain't thinking 0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:42.360 about nothing outside. He ain't thinking about how fast his 0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:44.440 car gonna be. He wants to go out there and 0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:47.200 play football. And he has a size to go out there. 0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:49.239 And when you talk about one of our guys that 0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:53.279 were replacing them with and Saint Jews, Saint Juice, he 0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:54.560 got the sides to go along with it. 0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:55.399 I talked. 0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:57.279 I talked to my cousin brief and I say, hey, bro, 0:55:57.320 --> 0:55:58.719 what just tell me what to think about him? I 0:55:58.760 --> 0:56:00.839 watched this game a little bit. What do you think 0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:03.560 about He say, Tanna, hen't run well. So everybody, you know, 0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:05.879 they got their up and down you know, thoughts on them. 0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:07.560 But if you want a guy to come in and 0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:09.760 play ball, if you want a guy as well coach 0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:12.759 and that's gonna be coachable, that's your guy, no matter 0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:13.320 where you're. 0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:13.719 Picking them at. 0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:15.839 Yeah, if you want a football player, he's one of them. 0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:18.080 That's a great sales pitch because I think that's ultimately 0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:19.880 like the pitcher're gonna get in the in the in 0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:22.000 the war room. It's that kind of pitch. Like he's 0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:25.239 a he loves ball, he's competitive, he's tough. When you 0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:27.080 sit with he hear that. And I watched the film. 0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.560 You know he did run slow, but I see a 0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:33.080 competitive a dog ass competitor. 0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:35.320 Steady have much, but he stood. 0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:38.000 Out like he's willing to tackle, get up and challenge you. 0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:39.160 You watch him at the senior ball. 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:42.000 I think that the first time I've ever seen Santana 0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:45.160 Field sorry from Florida State. I think he had a 0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:50.560 look at his act Like y'all don't say they still 0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:55.759 in Florida, man, I got true sympathy. You know, I 0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:58.680 know they ain't good, but good whoop them last year? 0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:01.399 Unless I forget I got let's not forget our guy. 0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:02.879 Just can I sell you one? 0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:05.120 Because I have watched a lot of guys this year 0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:07.200 for the tap to the draft. Probably, No, it's not 0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:10.120 all right, we already I want the ticket to the draft. 0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:11.839 We've talked about all these guys, so I'm bringing them 0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:14.200 up again. But I'm going to sell you in this 0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:16.240 guy because we didn't. I don't think we sold him 0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:18.000 hard enough when the last ticket to their draft pod 0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:21.600 and that's l O Maynor, the wide receiver from Stanford. 0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:22.960 He is so good, Tanna. 0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:25.840 He's six two to ten, He's a true ex He 0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:27.760 hasn't played a lot of football, as Jeremy Green told 0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:30.280 us around He's only played like thirty some games. So 0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:36.120 he's still tailing in freshman Fred Smooth does, but you 0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:38.080 never know it because he can never. 0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:38.960 Play the same play. 0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:41.400 See have no idea what he's talking about. It. 0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:47.080 But it's this guy that was close actually from Stanford, 0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:47.480 all right. 0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:48.360 So here's the thing. 0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:51.600 Is like the thing that sold me when watching his 0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:53.600 tape was actually not from last year. It was from 0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:56.200 twenty twenty three because I wanted to see a match 0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:59.560 up against a top tier corner. So they played Colorado, 0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:02.080 which is true. His hunter was on him and he 0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:05.080 was shut down the first half, didn't get a target 0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:07.120 his way. The game was getting a little bit out 0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:09.680 of hand. Stanford comes storming back and he gets two 0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:10.360 hundred and night. 0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:14.959 Yeah, he went off with that game off on he went. 0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:20.160 He is good. And when I say, when I say, 0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:22.400 he's wrong, like you said, he ain't playing with two games, 0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:23.440 you see, I already have a high. 0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:24.560 I'm not the name person. 0:58:24.600 --> 0:58:26.480 I just knew that. I knew who you talk. Once 0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:27.800 you say he went off the second I. 0:58:27.840 --> 0:58:32.760 Know that June ninety four three, and that's with arguably 0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:34.560 the best corner in the draft. 0:58:34.680 --> 0:58:38.960 The drafts un bade them green eggs, and hay, what 0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:41.560 I know and if you really know athletes, you can 0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:43.400 look at you like, oh, he really doing this and 0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:45.720 he don't know money, he don't know he wait till 0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:46.960 you put a brain in his head. 0:58:47.960 --> 0:58:48.600 He got that brain. 0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:51.880 This that what he was he out there like listen, 0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:55.520 he out there like the crow. He didn't want to brain. 0:58:57.120 --> 0:59:00.240 No, but he did seem raw, you know that game, 0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:02.400 to seem like a guy that he was doing things 0:59:02.400 --> 0:59:04.880 that he was like it ain't nothing, really, this is 0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:07.760 what my my ability can allow me to run out. 0:59:07.800 --> 0:59:11.400 But if you really get somebody behind him, yeah, and 0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:11.840 don't let. 0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:13.520 Him get on the team with a real like that 0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:17.760 say adventurer. They don't use the ability to get over. Yeah, 0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:20.240 he's gonna turn into a beast like he would be 0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:22.120 one of them guys that blew him like a and 0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:22.400 then he. 0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:25.000 All saw a different body type. Yeah, yeah, I mean 0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:27.440 we don't really good body type. That's a good one 0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:29.560 right there. Like no, I agree with you one hundred percent. 0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:32.880 I do like that. Hey listen, I agree with Jay 0:59:32.920 --> 0:59:33.680 on that one right there. 0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:35.560 All right. And just to guy Jason, I just he 0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:41.080 just walked out and now hater Jason's here, hate, I. 0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:42.560 Don't spun way of the hate. 0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:45.440 It's amazing that there can be hate coming up on 0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:45.960 the draft. 0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:48.919 It's a time of hope. But it doesn't matter. There's 0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:50.640 some fans that just have hate on one of them. 0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:55.160 Yeah, most definitely you are guys. 0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:58.400 We just don't have enough draft picks to be effective 0:59:58.400 --> 0:59:59.160 in this draft. 0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:02.520 I'm upset we're not gonna get that much better. First 1:00:02.560 --> 1:00:04.520 of all, great teams in his league don't depend on 1:00:04.600 --> 1:00:07.720 draft picks. Great teams in his league don't go into 1:00:07.760 --> 1:00:10.040 the year worrying about draft in the first round and 1:00:10.120 --> 1:00:11.720 need him to store it. If you need your first 1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:14.560 round and to store you a mediocre team, we are 1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:17.360 going to play. Draft picks are icing on the cake. 1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:20.760 Maybe they play, maybe they don't. But on good teams, 1:00:20.920 --> 1:00:23.640 we don't depend on children. That's how we see it 1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:28.160 down South, Charing. We don't depend on cheering breach to them. 1:00:29.520 --> 1:00:31.280 Yeah, I mean, I do think it's something that a 1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:32.880 lot of teams would be concerned about. But I'm not 1:00:32.880 --> 1:00:36.120 concerned about it really because Adam Peters is our gym. Yeah, 1:00:36.320 --> 1:00:38.560 and so I look at last year he signed a 1:00:38.560 --> 1:00:40.760 bunch of udfas. Three of those guys made the team. Yeah, 1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:43.000 you know they made the active rosters, so there's other 1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:46.080 ways to get young talented players in the roster. And 1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:48.520 also if you're more selective with your five and hit 1:00:48.560 --> 1:00:50.840 on those five, Yeah, and make sure you identify what 1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:53.160 is the commander, which I think Adam's gonna do, like 1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:55.280 you increase the hit rate. Then, plus what you're the 1:00:55.280 --> 1:00:57.200 work you do in free agency. The stuff we did 1:00:57.240 --> 1:01:00.960 with the trades supplements the draft, right, works together, Right, 1:01:01.160 --> 1:01:02.920 It all works together, So it's not you can't just 1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:05.919 look at the picks as the variable because it's part 1:01:05.960 --> 1:01:08.720 of a larger landscape of how do we do with 1:01:08.840 --> 1:01:10.680 u DFAs, how do we do in free agency? Like 1:01:10.720 --> 1:01:12.720 what those picks went to bring in good players? 1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:15.240 Well, first of all, it's no Laramie Tuns in this draft. 1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:18.080 So if we gave up the twenty ninth pick, we 1:01:18.160 --> 1:01:21.640 won Trent. Right, it's bigger than Nino Brown, is bigger 1:01:21.680 --> 1:01:22.200 than the draft. 1:01:22.520 --> 1:01:24.840 And they showed you in the free agency world, they 1:01:24.880 --> 1:01:26.560 went out there and got the best of the best. Yeah, 1:01:26.920 --> 1:01:28.920 when it came time to trade for those guys, they 1:01:28.920 --> 1:01:30.720 went up there and got some of the most available 1:01:30.800 --> 1:01:33.600 guys that we can get into trade. If Fred said 1:01:33.600 --> 1:01:35.320 the best and I hate saying that he said it best. 1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:36.680 But if you got to go in the draft like 1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:39.640 we did last year and bank on Jayden Dames to 1:01:39.680 --> 1:01:41.400 be out there and be the quarterback he was and 1:01:41.520 --> 1:01:43.520 hit because that was one of those guys you really 1:01:43.600 --> 1:01:46.400 see you not that we hit. 1:01:46.760 --> 1:01:47.800 We hit. We didn't. 1:01:47.840 --> 1:01:49.680 We didn't only hit with a quarterback when I. 1:01:52.440 --> 1:01:58.760 Right, don't fail me now, Hey, so you don't normally 1:01:58.800 --> 1:02:01.000 get those opportunities. And so if we had to do 1:02:01.040 --> 1:02:04.440 that twice we had to bank on hitting again this draft, 1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:06.720 then we're not a very good team. So that tells 1:02:06.720 --> 1:02:08.600 you where we drafted that that that were sitting in 1:02:08.600 --> 1:02:10.640 a great spot. That's why I like us sitting at 1:02:10.640 --> 1:02:12.840 twenty nine. It tells you that we had a great season. 1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:14.920 But it also tells you that we didn't even have 1:02:14.920 --> 1:02:15.960 to go up and get more. 1:02:15.800 --> 1:02:17.960 Guys because we have enough. We have enough guys to 1:02:18.000 --> 1:02:20.000 go out there and be competitive. Now we just want 1:02:20.000 --> 1:02:21.840 to add to to those guys in this draft. 1:02:21.600 --> 1:02:23.520 Has some young talent, I mean, hater, does that make 1:02:23.560 --> 1:02:26.320 you feel better? Man? No? No, no. 1:02:27.000 --> 1:02:30.480 While we have too many needs on this team in 1:02:30.560 --> 1:02:34.960 too many positions to be able to draft best player available, 1:02:35.000 --> 1:02:37.920 everyone says that, but we just don't have the ability 1:02:37.960 --> 1:02:40.200 to do it. We're not good enough yet. 1:02:40.320 --> 1:02:43.760 So I've heard this before too, who like what like, 1:02:43.840 --> 1:02:45.400 what's the biggest need on the team. 1:02:45.600 --> 1:02:48.480 Everybody loved to say past Russia and wide receiver. Then 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:50.360 they throw Coney in that. Let me tell y'all something, 1:02:50.360 --> 1:02:54.960 sick individuals, Huh, this is not the way things go. 1:02:55.120 --> 1:03:00.160 But the reason we can go best play available is 1:03:00.200 --> 1:03:04.400 because of what we did in trade scenarios. We needed 1:03:04.440 --> 1:03:07.640 another receiver to pair with Terry. We got that player 1:03:07.640 --> 1:03:13.960 in Deebo Samuels. We needed a left star warts left tackle, 1:03:13.960 --> 1:03:16.640 which these guys don't come free, all right. So the 1:03:16.680 --> 1:03:19.520 football guys gave us love for what we did for 1:03:19.560 --> 1:03:22.200 the forty nine ers with Trent Wihibs, so they give 1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:24.800 us Larrymy Tomsel. So now we don't have to get 1:03:24.800 --> 1:03:27.160 these guys in the draft because if we just had 1:03:27.160 --> 1:03:29.360 to depend on a left tackle in this draft to 1:03:29.360 --> 1:03:33.040 come be Laramie Tompson, it wasn't happening, right. I don't 1:03:33.080 --> 1:03:35.680 think it's a Deebo Samuels in this draft either. So 1:03:35.760 --> 1:03:38.680 to get Jonathan Jones, to get wise, to get these 1:03:38.720 --> 1:03:41.200 guys that been there and done that, we just stacked 1:03:41.200 --> 1:03:44.360 the roster with depth that we can't find in a draft, 1:03:44.520 --> 1:03:46.520 depth that we can trust. This is what I get 1:03:46.520 --> 1:03:48.880 with free agents. That's what I get with trades. Guys, 1:03:48.920 --> 1:03:50.920 been there, done that depth with trust. 1:03:51.560 --> 1:03:52.680 I'm gonna drop the mic for him. 1:03:52.720 --> 1:03:53.840 But I don't need to tell you nothing. 1:03:54.240 --> 1:03:56.720 I mean, that's exactly right. I don't think. I think 1:03:56.720 --> 1:03:58.400 when you look at the roster, I don't see a 1:03:58.480 --> 1:04:01.520 spot where you like, I have to get this guy. 1:04:01.560 --> 1:04:03.480 Like sometimes you look at teams like they need a 1:04:03.520 --> 1:04:07.240 tight end, they need this, they need that. Like this 1:04:07.280 --> 1:04:08.680 is the thing I think fans of our time with. 1:04:09.840 --> 1:04:13.520 Did we sign the most exciting names in free agency? No? No, 1:04:13.680 --> 1:04:16.480 But did we sign guys that I've watched, that Fred's watched, 1:04:16.480 --> 1:04:20.439 as Tantana's watch, that are above average football players? Yes, 1:04:20.520 --> 1:04:22.680 they're going to make this team better. Yes. Have they 1:04:22.680 --> 1:04:25.120 added depth? Yes? Do we want to get younger and 1:04:25.240 --> 1:04:28.600 more talented, Absolutely, But that's what the drafts for and 1:04:28.640 --> 1:04:31.040 that's where best player available comes in, right Yeah, Because 1:04:31.040 --> 1:04:32.560 like I don't need it. I don't need to draft 1:04:32.560 --> 1:04:34.840 an offensive line. I don't need to draft a defensive end. 1:04:34.840 --> 1:04:36.800 I don't need to draft a corner because of some 1:04:36.840 --> 1:04:39.840 of these additions. If we do riting depth and creating 1:04:39.880 --> 1:04:41.480 more talent, I think that's what that means. 1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:45.320 And also I want to encourage y'all don't always go 1:04:45.560 --> 1:04:47.960 for the new shiny toy. We still got guys like 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:50.480 Taylor Owens on this team that want a job. We 1:04:50.560 --> 1:04:56.400 still get We got Hampton. People forget about Hampton. We 1:04:56.440 --> 1:05:01.280 got the Meptiste. He's coming into his Give these guys 1:05:01.280 --> 1:05:03.480 a chance to show you I got Bible. 1:05:03.640 --> 1:05:06.560 Also, Yeah, and so I think this is what every 1:05:06.560 --> 1:05:08.640 team goes So I think every fan base goes through 1:05:08.680 --> 1:05:12.120 a version of this. It's like, yeah, you want everyone 1:05:12.160 --> 1:05:14.960 wants Miles Garrett, Like you know, shoot, I want Miles Garrett. 1:05:15.720 --> 1:05:17.440 When you look around the landscape of the NFL, not 1:05:17.520 --> 1:05:18.760 every team is constructed that way. 1:05:18.840 --> 1:05:21.280 But also they want to sweat from the Eagles and 1:05:21.280 --> 1:05:24.080 pay him savent to media. So now you can reach 1:05:24.680 --> 1:05:28.640 free agency? Is reaching overpaying reaching? It's a contest. 1:05:29.000 --> 1:05:37.560 Yeah, if we don't draft insert prospect here, then we 1:05:37.640 --> 1:05:38.440 lose the draft. 1:05:38.480 --> 1:05:40.600 We have to get this guy at all costs. 1:05:40.600 --> 1:05:43.080 He's a blue tripper and if you don't go after him, 1:05:43.080 --> 1:05:43.880 then what are we even doing? 1:05:43.960 --> 1:05:47.280 What pleay do we insert here. I hate this take 1:05:47.840 --> 1:05:51.000 when I see this on I's crazy I created because 1:05:51.040 --> 1:05:54.920 it shows me you haven't watched watch enough, right, Like 1:05:55.120 --> 1:05:57.520 because if you're like, who would you plant your flag 1:05:57.560 --> 1:06:00.000 for in this year's draft class, like that that you're saying, 1:06:00.360 --> 1:06:04.440 this player is guaranteed, guaranteed and definitively better. 1:06:04.320 --> 1:06:07.000 Know nobody outside the top team. 1:06:07.960 --> 1:06:08.400 Now he go. 1:06:08.520 --> 1:06:12.880 The thing they gonna say, everybody wants an edge. Everybody 1:06:12.960 --> 1:06:15.280 wants an edge. If I hit edge one more time, 1:06:15.320 --> 1:06:18.320 I'm about to lose it. Edge edge edge edge. Now 1:06:18.400 --> 1:06:21.320 the edge they'll say right now is if Mike Green 1:06:21.920 --> 1:06:24.400 slide to it, we got to get him, all right, 1:06:24.600 --> 1:06:26.840 If James P. Junior slides and we got to get 1:06:26.880 --> 1:06:31.120 I think because they so edge hungry, and these guys 1:06:31.360 --> 1:06:34.560 actually might be there when we pick it. I think 1:06:34.680 --> 1:06:36.920 those the two that the fan base would lose it 1:06:36.960 --> 1:06:39.560 over if we just say they're there and then we 1:06:39.600 --> 1:06:39.960 trade that. 1:06:41.000 --> 1:06:43.960 Yeah, and again like it's I just look at like 1:06:44.120 --> 1:06:46.040 edge is a fine example. We can talk about them, 1:06:46.080 --> 1:06:48.520 like obviously there's Abdil Carter, who's a different tier, but 1:06:49.280 --> 1:06:51.880 then you get into like tier three, tier four, and 1:06:52.720 --> 1:06:57.320 it's marginal. Man, it's the difference between Landon Jackson and 1:06:57.400 --> 1:07:00.760 a Mecan Buca or Alanta Jackson, Smart Stewart, yeah, or 1:07:00.920 --> 1:07:06.280 Nick Gordon and you know the kid from Georgia, Michael Williams. Williams. Yeah, 1:07:06.880 --> 1:07:09.840 it's marginal, right, there's there's blemishes with all these guys. 1:07:09.840 --> 1:07:14.240 So when I hear fans make this you have to 1:07:14.240 --> 1:07:16.080 get this player, it's like you haven't watched enough film. 1:07:16.160 --> 1:07:17.680 It's really what it points down to me. It's like 1:07:17.680 --> 1:07:20.040 because you would know that this that's not how this works. 1:07:20.240 --> 1:07:22.760 That's not necessary in this year's draft. And and and 1:07:22.840 --> 1:07:25.160 of all the years I've covered the draft, this is 1:07:25.200 --> 1:07:27.240 the one year where it feels like this is it's 1:07:27.280 --> 1:07:30.120 the least true, right, it's the least true. 1:07:30.240 --> 1:07:32.280 And this is gonna say what you don't want to 1:07:32.320 --> 1:07:36.280 say is a draft specials. This is the most unsure 1:07:36.680 --> 1:07:41.560 year of draft speculation of all time. People are unsure 1:07:41.600 --> 1:07:44.560 about the quarterbacks top the bottom. They unsure about the 1:07:44.560 --> 1:07:48.640 wide receivers top the bottom. They unsure about the left 1:07:48.680 --> 1:07:52.440 tackles and right tackles top the bottom. The only positions 1:07:52.440 --> 1:07:54.760 that they say no, it's some gas in this draft 1:07:55.080 --> 1:07:59.480 is running back indeed tackle by the too draft I 1:07:59.520 --> 1:08:02.760 mean position, they're saying, oh, it's some dogs in here, 1:08:03.600 --> 1:08:07.480 even in that corner. They're saying at the top forty, 1:08:08.200 --> 1:08:10.480 you know, picks. But after that they feel like it's 1:08:10.480 --> 1:08:11.040 none there. 1:08:11.480 --> 1:08:12.920 With tight end too, everyone's like at the deep ten 1:08:13.000 --> 1:08:14.720 end class. I'm like, after you get after the top 1:08:14.960 --> 1:08:16.000 three four guys. 1:08:16.800 --> 1:08:19.479 Just just you guys talking about the fans and just 1:08:19.600 --> 1:08:21.920 that question when that question popped that when I first 1:08:21.920 --> 1:08:24.240 saw the run down, the first thing I popped in 1:08:24.280 --> 1:08:24.559 my mind. 1:08:24.600 --> 1:08:25.679 I had no player in mind. 1:08:25.960 --> 1:08:29.799 I said, if you don't draft a fan pleaser, you drift, 1:08:30.840 --> 1:08:31.599 Because that's. 1:08:31.439 --> 1:08:32.040 What it's about. 1:08:32.200 --> 1:08:32.320 Now. 1:08:32.320 --> 1:08:34.799 I watched the pill of the for Eagles boot Donovan 1:08:34.920 --> 1:08:36.639 McNabb off the stage. 1:08:36.720 --> 1:08:39.360 Yeah, and he took them to four NFC championship. 1:08:39.439 --> 1:08:41.600 Yeah, back to back to back them they're back to 1:08:41.680 --> 1:08:43.800 back to back. So it's to me, it's all about 1:08:43.840 --> 1:08:46.160 the fan pleasers. If the fans not pleased with the 1:08:46.160 --> 1:08:47.080 guys you and I watched. 1:08:47.960 --> 1:08:51.360 I watched the Jet fans cheer when they drafted Zach Will. 1:08:53.200 --> 1:08:53.960 You know what I'm saying. 1:08:54.000 --> 1:08:56.160 So that's how I look at it. I'm not putting 1:08:56.160 --> 1:08:57.880 the player. It's all about pleasing the fans. 1:08:57.960 --> 1:09:01.920 Yeah, No, I mean dropped my to please the fans 1:09:01.920 --> 1:09:02.439 in April. 1:09:02.520 --> 1:09:08.480 I want to please them in late decembl January, in February. 1:09:09.080 --> 1:09:11.000 No, I think that's one hundred percent right. So is 1:09:11.080 --> 1:09:11.840 uh hater? 1:09:12.080 --> 1:09:12.479 Do you do? 1:09:12.560 --> 1:09:13.960 You feel good about that? You feel better? 1:09:14.120 --> 1:09:16.920 I feel great, guys. I have a little draft anxiety 1:09:17.280 --> 1:09:19.400 just because we're getting up there and there's a lot 1:09:19.479 --> 1:09:23.320 going on and a lot rides on this because you're invested, 1:09:23.400 --> 1:09:28.439 right team, invested in the success. I want him to 1:09:28.439 --> 1:09:31.160 do well. I want every pick to hit. Of course 1:09:31.200 --> 1:09:33.080 that doesn't happen, but I wish it could. 1:09:33.640 --> 1:09:37.280 I just say hashtag fans, don't forget about last year's pick. 1:09:37.880 --> 1:09:41.200 We see we turned the paid so quick. Now we 1:09:41.280 --> 1:09:45.120 got some dude that's Marinate getting ready right now? Like 1:09:45.160 --> 1:09:48.640 they say Edge and I'm saying, Jean Baptiste. Did you 1:09:48.680 --> 1:09:50.280 see him getting into games last year? 1:09:50.960 --> 1:09:51.080 Now? 1:09:52.680 --> 1:09:53.840 So quick? Think about it? 1:09:54.120 --> 1:09:54.400 All right? 1:09:54.520 --> 1:09:58.400 My rookie year, we had an undrafted free agent? All right? Now, 1:09:58.439 --> 1:10:01.720 I know who I'm talking about. No, you don't, do 1:10:01.800 --> 1:10:04.400 you know what he's talking about? Your rookie year, Antonio Peers. 1:10:05.360 --> 1:10:07.200 I forgot about Peers was to die. He was in 1:10:07.240 --> 1:10:10.720 our club, Yes, Antonio Piers. If they was quick to 1:10:10.800 --> 1:10:13.120 turn the page in on Tonio, he don't become a 1:10:13.200 --> 1:10:16.920 Super Bowl winning champion at the Giants and playing here 1:10:17.040 --> 1:10:20.240 on two number one defenses, if you were just quick 1:10:20.280 --> 1:10:22.320 to turn the page to the next year's draft, all 1:10:22.400 --> 1:10:25.599 I'm saying is sometime we got some players that didn't 1:10:25.600 --> 1:10:28.679 show up their first year, didn't even probably get a chance. Yeah, 1:10:29.400 --> 1:10:33.280 that's gonna get a chance this year. Dominique Hampton, nobody's 1:10:33.280 --> 1:10:37.200 talking about him. I'm more hyped up about Tyler Owins 1:10:37.600 --> 1:10:40.439 than anybody. I think he's a legit staring safety in 1:10:40.520 --> 1:10:44.160 this league and if he get a chance, he can 1:10:44.240 --> 1:10:46.639 show people that. That's all I'm saying. Don't forget about 1:10:46.680 --> 1:10:47.639 the old people on the roster. 1:10:48.400 --> 1:10:50.679 But no, I think that's a great point. And obviously 1:10:50.800 --> 1:10:52.920 you can tell we're really excited about the draft this year. 1:10:53.120 --> 1:10:54.880 Can't wait to watch it. Make sure you tune into 1:10:54.920 --> 1:10:57.280 that live footage right we got we're on an hour 1:10:57.360 --> 1:11:00.120 before draft starts at seven. We're on at six on 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:02.560 for the pick, and then make sure you get that 1:11:02.720 --> 1:11:05.040 notification button because we might have Adam Peters or Dan 1:11:05.160 --> 1:11:07.240 quent on to talk about the pick. Which would be 1:11:07.320 --> 1:11:09.680 extat which would be extremely exciting. And again you're not 1:11:09.720 --> 1:11:12.160 gonna get that kind of coverage anywhere else. So we're excited. 1:11:12.240 --> 1:11:14.280 We know you're excited. Please make sure you tune in 1:11:14.320 --> 1:11:16.320 for that content, and please make sure you like them. 1:11:16.360 --> 1:11:18.679 Subscribe to this show, to all the other Commander shows, 1:11:18.760 --> 1:11:21.080 wherever you get your podcast, wherever you watch the show 1:11:21.120 --> 1:11:23.720 on YouTube. Yeah, I really appreciate it. I think that's 1:11:23.840 --> 1:11:24.559 another one. 1:11:24.600 --> 1:11:26.640 We'll see you at the National highb on Saturday too, 1:11:26.720 --> 1:11:27.599 to really celebrate. 1:11:27.760 --> 1:11:31.479 We is going there, There we go, he said, So 1:11:32.160 --> 1:11:32.800 see you guys there