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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Command Center Podcast, we are risking

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Speaker 1: it for the Biscuit by attending the NFL Draft. You

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Speaker 1: guys didn't go, but what do you think about the

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Speaker 1: guys that are going. We're gonna talk about that. Fred

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Speaker 1: and Santana and I. We're gonna sell you something good,

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Speaker 1: something sweet, a prospect in this class that is very

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Speaker 1: very special. Yeah, I will say Fred is a great salesman.

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Speaker 1: All right, and then we got hater Jason in the house.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about our draft day anxieties. What

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Speaker 1: are we worried about? Guys, don't worry. Adam Peters is

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Speaker 1: here walking you asleep, and Adam Peters we trust it

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Speaker 1: all starts right now. Welcome to the Command Center Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm logan Paulsena with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have some exciting news. Santana, you had a charity

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Speaker 1: golf tournament this weekend, eighty nine Ways to Give Charity

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Speaker 1: Golf event.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't able to go because I was on vacation,

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Speaker 1: which I'm really bummed about. And Fred was telling me

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Speaker 1: all good he was hitting the ball. Jason was telling

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Speaker 1: me it the couple of kidd a cup of golf

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Speaker 1: balls and and you know, Maddie and all the producers

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Speaker 1: said they were.

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Speaker 2: Riding here, a couple of bars out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. So it sounds like a really nice event.

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Speaker 3: It was a great turnout. I mean, just to say

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Speaker 3: the least.

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Speaker 4: Bro, it's it's gratifying just to see the people that

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Speaker 4: support you, you know what I mean. So a big

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Speaker 4: shout out to my command center crew, all the guys

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Speaker 4: that's behind the scene, Jason, Maddie, Kayler, Key.

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Speaker 2: Caroline, Anna, all of them showed up. Ryan was there. Man.

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Speaker 4: That was big because I didn't, you know, I didn't

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Speaker 4: know at what capacity they was gonna come, you know,

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Speaker 4: And I saw them in their gear and I was like, oh.

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Speaker 2: They coming to golf.

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Speaker 4: And it was funny because we getting ready to golf

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Speaker 4: and no one seem smooth.

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Speaker 3: So everybody like, yes, and I'm like, his birthday was

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Speaker 3: last night.

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Speaker 4: Here, but no, man, honestly, from the command center guys

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Speaker 4: that I work with now and from the you know,

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Speaker 4: former Redskins slash commanders who are football players, that all

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Speaker 4: showed up Man and everybody else Man who made the

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Speaker 4: event special.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: Hats off to y'all. Appreciate y'all. You know, we can't

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Speaker 4: do what we do in the community without them. And

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Speaker 4: I think that's one of the biggest things that you

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Speaker 4: know that I love about it because it shows you that,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's easy for me to support others when people.

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Speaker 2: Support me, you know, And so what was it?

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Speaker 1: What's it for?

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Speaker 4: So you know, and I tell everybody you know cutting dry,

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Speaker 4: you know, you have so many different foundations saying well

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Speaker 4: we give back to this and that. Man, were just

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Speaker 4: a foundation that I started way beyond my years of

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Speaker 2: And I could do it personally myself.

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Speaker 4: When I was younger, I did everything out of my

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Speaker 3: They're like, bro, people will people will help you do us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so since I've been here, I rebranded the

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Speaker 4: name to A nine Ways. It used to be the

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Speaker 4: Centeranna Moss Foundation, then it changed to the Moss Brothers Foundation,

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Speaker 4: and I rebranded the name to just eight nine Ways

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Speaker 4: to Give because the area knows me as that guy

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Speaker 4: been a three each and every year working with some

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Speaker 4: Fred Smooth a lot of flak for whatever you know

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Speaker 4: from us fat checking them and doing other things.

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Speaker 2: Know, because the pair of lips always said lost him.

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Speaker 4: I always told him, but this dude is the best

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Speaker 4: seller I ever had at any auctioneer. He does, he

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Speaker 2: Man, But he had one of my teammates from high school.

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Speaker 2: They're shocked me today, my guy Andrew Howard. When I

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Speaker 2: Man, I came out here so shots after that man.

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Speaker 2: One of my older teammates, he was a twelfth grader

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Speaker 4: And he said this, because we always ask questions about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is hard to imagine.

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Speaker 2: No, I was lashing out because I felt like I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was our football related and they my coach

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Speaker 2: was like, you gotta wait your ten balls in front

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Speaker 1: That's uh, that's a wild short.

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Speaker 2: What's so good at selling stuff? I don't know.

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Speaker 5: If you can see in the control room up there

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Speaker 5: just someone boughtyving them dollars, serving them dogs. Sometimes people

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is good, great item, I say,

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Speaker 2: but I said, it's a sugar dad item. I don't

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Speaker 2: go buy this out, sugar Dad. You get your sugar

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Speaker 2: Dad on. This one is for you right here. It

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Speaker 4: The wrong profession right now, car My gosh, he'd be

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Speaker 4: that guy that you be sleeping. You hear him when

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Speaker 4: you put up a TV on it you see free

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Speaker 4: I can see it on your mom's arm right now.

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Speaker 1: Got us on at two am.

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Speaker 2: Just but I enjoyed Raansberry forms a course because I

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Speaker 2: I'll be ripping it.

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Speaker 1: Are you good at golf? I'm great at everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, we can say, we can say.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if you want to kind of check out

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Speaker 1: Tanna's charity, it's eighty nine ways to give dot org.

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Speaker 1: it out and uh, maybe a ten next year, I would.

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Speaker 4: Say this, Yeah, you can't have to wait for next year.

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Speaker 4: My birthday weekend May thirty. First, I'm having my first annual.

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Speaker 4: It's called Santana's Kingpin Tournament. It's gonna be a bowling tournament.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm coming so now looking now get me there.

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Speaker 2: Now we get to now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if y'all want to see that match up, you know,

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Speaker 4: hopefully miss friend is on the same team, because I

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Speaker 4: think it's gonna be people signing up to Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: We should have that up pretty soon to be May

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Speaker 3: thirty first.

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Speaker 1: And that's so funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your mama like your mom, me and your mama,

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Speaker 2: she had the same birthday with my mama.

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Speaker 1: Birthday is May thirty first.

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Speaker 4: And Master Junie first, Yeah, June first, right, so were

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Speaker 4: supposed to be so yeah, were supposed to be anyway,

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Speaker 1: U right now a little bit of housekeeping obviously, check

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Speaker 1: out the website supports Santana Charity. That's fantastic stuff that

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Speaker 1: he's doing the community. A housekeeping all right. Because it's

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Speaker 1: draft week, we got our other podcast Ticket to the Draft.

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Speaker 1: We did a seven round mock draft came out yesterday

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Speaker 1: with Fred and my brother Yeah, and jam mcgreen Jerimer Green,

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Speaker 1: and they kind of talk the same. They don't look

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Speaker 1: very funny guys. And went through every single draft pick.

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Speaker 1: It took us like what an hour and a half. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's alone by long time. Lots of debates there about players.

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Speaker 1: Fred had some of the talk about Fred selling stuff. Man.

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Speaker 2: We listened to him on a show today.

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Speaker 1: We go up to a player and he would just

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Speaker 2: No, yoga Aurora. I tried to get him. I tried

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Speaker 2: to sell them. They fought back, but I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty one, sixty one.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, dude, this is this is a

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Speaker 1: Should definitely check out the argument it was. It was masterful.

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Speaker 3: If we had been a finished product, all right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: But obviously exciting player Royo. But we see all the

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Speaker 1: guys we picked, see the conversations, lots of really great analysis.

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Speaker 1: Makes you check that out. And we got Command Center

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Speaker 1: Live Draft Night that's on Thursday, Yeah, Thursday, So tomorrow, Yes, tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: toomuch tomorrow, and it's on six pm on YouTube and

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Speaker 1: we like so basically the draft starts at seven, we're

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Speaker 1: on at six, okay, so on an hour before and

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Speaker 1: then we're on live during the pick. So there's lots

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if I could sell it like Fred Smoot. There's

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Speaker 5: the draft room, the war rooms, right, it's right next

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Speaker 5: door to me. They're literally dq ap like we're talking

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Speaker 5: without them. We're going to see if we can get

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Speaker 5: it to happen. I'm confident will They're just going to

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Speaker 5: make the pick. Walk right on out, walk right in here.

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Speaker 5: Talk to you guys about the pick. So nobody else

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Speaker 5: is going to get that, no other soup it. So

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Speaker 5: if you want your commander is yeah, that's right where

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Speaker 5: the soup.

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Speaker 2: Has made it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. That's a great sell. You're giving

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Speaker 1: your challenging Fred moot smooth for selling stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I personally don't care what mel Kuiper has to say.

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Speaker 5: I want to hear what aps to say. He's someone

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want Yeah, if you want analysis, who's.

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Speaker 2: Who better than the guy that's pushing the butt?

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Speaker 2: This is about male Kaiper and the weather man been

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Speaker 2: lying for over one hundred second that what they do.

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Speaker 1: I don't know you've been. I've been watching a lot

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Speaker 1: there are some wacky takes out.

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Speaker 2: The first of all, people are all over the board.

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Speaker 2: Like I literally heard on the radio yesterday. I was

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Speaker 2: said heard about. You should do a sentence.

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Speaker 1: What do you say? He said, I have?

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Speaker 2: And this is a Jets GM. So evidently you ain't

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Speaker 2: been doing your job good all right? He said, Uh,

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Speaker 2: he's he's undraftable. That what I had on my paper, I.

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Speaker 1: Came draftable, undraftable.

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Speaker 2: I came right on next on B Mitch Show, B Mitch,

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Speaker 2: I hit B Mitch up in less say let me

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Speaker 2: come on, I want to defend Tannebaum. Was him, came

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Speaker 2: over here and one Tannebone. But he got on there

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Speaker 2: and said this absurd stuff. I said, I'm gonna tell you,

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Speaker 2: it is one of my classmates.

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Speaker 1: This is a lofty call.

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Speaker 2: But they said Drew Brees was too small. They said

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Speaker 2: Drew didn't have enough gas in it. They say Drew

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Speaker 2: can't throw over office alignment. They say the same thing

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Speaker 2: about you do it. You do it is Drew Brees

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Speaker 2: with a gold chain.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you like this though, when you really

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Speaker 4: look at it, and I don't want to get too

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Speaker 4: stuff that comes out before the draft, you got to

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Speaker 2: I mean, they don't know or they can go off.

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Speaker 4: Is your college performances of the last three to four years.

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Speaker 4: And if you look at what this kid done, the

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Speaker 4: only thing that he has done that ticked them off.

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Speaker 1: Is his mouth.

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Speaker 2: And that's what his dad did.

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Speaker 4: But his dad a little more a little flair about

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Speaker 4: itself and he played the different position, so you need

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Speaker 2: So I'll mean that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's two things here that I think are

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Speaker 1: They're like, I have him at sixty one. I am

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Speaker 2: I got it, got him at one on five because

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Speaker 2: the stats didn't make.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's just a lot of stuff going on right,

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Speaker 1: So it's important to keep that in mind. And then

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Speaker 1: like the other thing to I mean, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: But the draft is funny. This year's draft it's especially funny.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing, this is what you said, Tennis.

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Speaker 2: But sometime they win. Now, but sometime they whip I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: because they want to play out a file to this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Like, there's all sorts of craziness to be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm tracking thirty visits. Every team uses thirty visits differently.

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Speaker 1: They use them differently, right, So some people are bringing

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Speaker 1: want more information. Some people use them as smoke screens.

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Speaker 1: Some people use them to indicate people are actually interested

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Speaker 1: for sure. I don't care who you are until Thursday night. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: be great. All right, So now let's get into our

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Speaker 1: draft talk and discussion. It's risk it for the biscuit

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Speaker 1: attending the draft, and as always, risk it for the

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Speaker 1: Biscuit is presented by Marsha McGlenn an agency. You're a

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Speaker 1: partner and risk in people's strategies. So when I say

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about as a player. Those guys that are

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Speaker 2: We both hurt it down. Yeah, when we had the chance. Tom,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with marsh mclenny on this one, right.

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Speaker 2: Going to that draft is a risk first of all.

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Speaker 2: And if you a person people that got a strategy,

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Speaker 2: you know to sit at home with your family, sit

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Speaker 2: at home with your family, good, bad, ugly in between.

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Speaker 2: You do not want third degree airing Roger's face. You

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Speaker 2: do not want to sit there. Why pick got? The

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Speaker 2: the one that sit there then come back the next day.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they think you like At the

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Speaker 2: end of the day, the pain is already happened. I

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Speaker 3: I'm going with both of y'all, you and what you

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Speaker 4: Mar marrish mc glenny. I ain't want to mess the

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Speaker 4: word up. Not but honestly, man, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 4: Like you know, me and Fred both had potential of

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Speaker 4: a little bit because of you know, his extracurriculum. Tell you, yeah,

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Speaker 4: just the stuff you did off the field. You know,

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Speaker 4: we're not surprised, right thirty years later. But honestly, when

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Speaker 4: they called me and told me, hey, you know you

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Speaker 4: had the opportunity miage, he knew what time it was.

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Speaker 3: I'm just not that guy. First of I don't want

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Speaker 3: the camera on me.

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Speaker 4: I remember all the news outlets that wanted to participate

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Speaker 4: with my little draft gathering.

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Speaker 2: I told him, y'all got a way outside on Front Street.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like when I know when I get a call and

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Speaker 4: they say they're finna pick me, then I'll let you in.

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Speaker 4: Because I didn't want that drama. I didn't want the drama,

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Speaker 4: the speculation to hoole leading up to it, because that's

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Speaker 4: all it's all for them. It's for them to sit

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Speaker 4: there and be like, oh, you see him now, he's

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Speaker 4: taking a shot of the hend right now. I just

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Speaker 4: saw him taking shot. He's getting nervous, it's getting nerve

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Speaker 4: wracking for him. But I just didn't want that for

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Speaker 4: I knew was that they say first round potential, and whether.

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Speaker 2: It was gonna be early or later.

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Speaker 4: I just knew that I'm gonna get drafted, So whether

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Speaker 4: I just was like, look, when that's when that call come,

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Speaker 1: Then I got a question for both of you guys.

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Speaker 1: Did your agents have an idea of where you would

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Speaker 1: feel like at the top it's a little bit easier

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Speaker 4: I So I told you one of things about Drew

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Speaker 4: a shock for a reason. They had me everywhere up

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Speaker 4: in that first round. I tell you that one the

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Speaker 4: two guys at my pro day said if he was

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Speaker 2: Off the board that year.

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Speaker 4: And it's crazy because I was like, that's devastating to

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Speaker 2: But leading up to that day.

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Speaker 3: It was all Washington, all Washington.

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Speaker 4: So my agent was saying and saying the same thing, like, look, bro,

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Speaker 4: he has the possibility.

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Speaker 2: We don't know, so I'm.

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Speaker 4: Not going to get your and my whole damn show

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Speaker 4: on for the behind because I wan't finish it there

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Speaker 4: and be, you know, set on one team.

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Speaker 2: I know how this thing go.

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Speaker 4: I watched draft all my life, so I knew that

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Speaker 4: it's things happened in that draft that get funky at time.

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Speaker 4: But today of the draft, it went from we knew

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Speaker 4: Washington was one of the teams. Then EJ had told

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Speaker 4: me Whispers of the Coats was gonna get me if

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Speaker 4: I felt from Washington the Coats said there was gonna

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Speaker 4: get didn't get me.

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Speaker 3: The Jets jumped up in front of everybody and.

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Speaker 2: Got me at surprised. Now that's what the draft is.

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Speaker 2: I was hell been thrown. Thought I was going to Tampa.

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Speaker 2: I had talked to Tampa like more than anybody, and

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Speaker 2: they end up drafting ken Yata Walker, a guy from Mississippi. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like a big offensive tackle, and I'm thinking they finish,

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Speaker 2: They finna pulled the trigger on me at the time,

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Speaker 2: And like I said, like I didn't really zero in

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Speaker 2: Friz Smo did not need to be in Miami. Twenty

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Speaker 1: Miami probably do that too, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Miami would have chewed me up and spit me back out.

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Speaker 1: So how many dv's won before you or how many.

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Speaker 2: Yes too to him? And that yeah, Nate and Jamar Fletcher.

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Speaker 2: So it was like one of them things where once

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Speaker 4: And then my take on that too, you gotta think

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Speaker 4: I'm going to leave college as a draft pick on

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Speaker 4: the first day, I didn't you man, they could have

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Speaker 2: I didn't even get you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: It was just like, man, I just walked on, yeah,

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Speaker 4: four years ago, and now I'm getting drafted and you know,

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Speaker 2: Yes, So I was okay regardless.

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Speaker 1: And soil you guys didn't go obviously, but like what

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Speaker 4: story first. It was everyone thought my family, like both sides,

438
00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,639
Speaker 4: they thought Tennefon to throw it down because this is

439
00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,240
Speaker 4: something big bro. I had my intermediate family that the house,

440
00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,720
Speaker 4: the house I lived in, the people that lived there,

441
00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,400
Speaker 4: they was there, and my two homeboys and my girl.

442
00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,760
Speaker 2: We were just that's all we did.

443
00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,359
Speaker 4: We sat right there and then I had my agent

444
00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,159
Speaker 4: of course, and I had one aunt. I think I

445
00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,000
Speaker 4: had one of my aunts who was closer to my dad.

446
00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,480
Speaker 2: That's it. And I didn't want no one else in there.

447
00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,639
Speaker 1: And it's food or anything.

448
00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,560
Speaker 2: Oh we ate, he ate and drunk good, you know

449
00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:29,040
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

450
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,600
Speaker 4: Like I said, we were sitting there, libations was there,

451
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,920
Speaker 4: but it just was like if I had to count

452
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,000
Speaker 4: count the people on hand in two hands, probably no

453
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,400
Speaker 4: more than ten people, you know. And because I heard

454
00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,959
Speaker 4: the craziness that goes on. And then I also went

455
00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,200
Speaker 4: to Drin james On. I was there for his when

456
00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,640
Speaker 4: he got picked, and I remember the big party we had.

457
00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,879
Speaker 4: But that was like that was crazy because he didn't

458
00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,280
Speaker 4: expect to go in front of Ricky Winn.

459
00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

460
00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,679
Speaker 3: It was a surprise that they went up and got

461
00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,160
Speaker 3: him first.

462
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,840
Speaker 2: So and you know on that Ricky Williams trade they

463
00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,399
Speaker 2: traded with Washington, y'all know that right out of that

464
00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,480
Speaker 2: Ricky Williams trade, we got champed LeVar Are, Like we

465
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,640
Speaker 2: got pics out of that thing, because you know we

466
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 2: were Buddy was tripping. Who got wicked? Wims? So what

467
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,680
Speaker 2: his name is? He gave up the house, He gave

468
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 2: up the house. He gave up the house. Now you

469
00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,520
Speaker 2: know I had on the fresh hot white suit, you know,

470
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,200
Speaker 2: but I was with my family, you.

471
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,240
Speaker 4: Know, tried to look like he was getting dressed for

472
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,359
Speaker 4: Easter Sunnay, no, he ain't. Probably taking none of the

473
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,159
Speaker 4: festivities on Easter, singing in the choir. But it was

474
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,440
Speaker 4: just me and my family. You know, we're chilling, man,

475
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 4: like it's another day for me. Like I said, I

476
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,240
Speaker 4: wanted destination.

477
00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,879
Speaker 2: I was so caught up on where am I I

478
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,639
Speaker 2: want to know the city, like so I can look

479
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,800
Speaker 2: at the roster first of all, to see who's on

480
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 2: the roster.

481
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:38,960
Speaker 4: To tell me this, I didn't ask you this question

482
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 4: before knowing that who you were as a player, because

483
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 4: you was a corner that arguably no one could no

484
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 4: one could deny that you was one to talk in

485
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,920
Speaker 4: our class when you saw the other two guys, did

486
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 4: that bother you?

487
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,560
Speaker 2: They bother me because you knew, Like damn it bothered me.

488
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 2: But I know it wasn't Nay fault No, it wasn't. Yeah,

489
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 2: so it bother me in a way, But I also

490
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 2: I was like, some good gonna come out of this,

491
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,639
Speaker 2: And the blessing was I came here and coming to

492
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,919
Speaker 2: wash this not only did I find a team I

493
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 2: want to be on, but I found home. Now I

494
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 2: live here, this is my home. I can't say going

495
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 2: to some of them other cities with that in my heart.

496
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 2: That'd have been your home.

497
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: And then did you guys fly out that same night

498
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 1: and go to the team or where they flew you up?

499
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,439
Speaker 2: Well, well, I don't know what the jes.

500
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 4: They just told me, man, enjoy your time many family.

501
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:25,919
Speaker 4: I didn't come up to them when until it was

502
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,640
Speaker 4: time to go to Bractice. Oh really yeah, man to Minicamp.

503
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 2: I didn't come to Minico They private jeedged us up

504
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 2: and show coached me and old Rod Gordoner.

505
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 4: So they treated us like I would say, it's crazy

506
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 4: because Rob go and got picked before me. And that's

507
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,719
Speaker 4: that's how this thing, how backwards it is, how crazy

508
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 4: it gets because like when I saw Rod, like I said,

509
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 4: I cared less if they picked ten receivers in front

510
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 4: of me, Like I said, me getting picked that day

511
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 4: with everything. So when I saw Rod gotten, the first

512
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 4: thing part of my head like, that's the team that

513
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:55,959
Speaker 4: everybody told me I was going to.

514
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 2: Look they pick.

515
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 4: Had no clue of the story that went on here,

516
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 4: didn't know nothing. I was like, oh, I got picked

517
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 4: the next pick.

518
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 2: It didn't match though we already had Michael Ritzbrook. We

519
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 2: already got a six four wide receiver while you're drafting

520
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 2: another big old dude.

521
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 4: What was crazy is every year so I get to

522
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 4: New York and I'm in training camp, mini camp. So

523
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 4: the guy who you a lot of people know of

524
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 4: now Lockett, who's in the league, Lockett uncle was Kevin Lockett.

525
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, played here, He played here, and he got traded

526
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 2: to us.

527
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 4: And the first thing he told me said, bro Dan

528
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 4: Snyder and sh and Shot Shottenheimer. Uh, the heads on

529
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 4: that pick, because Shot Dan Snyder wanted you the whole time.

530
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 2: It was you on his board.

531
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 4: And Scheintehaimen went opposite and got a tar receiver. And

532
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 4: I promise you, I swear to god, it was the crazy.

533
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 4: The next that off season, Schottenheim got fired and Dan

534
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 4: Snyder called my agent trying to trade for me, and

535
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 4: it just was like nah. So he tried to trade

536
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 4: every year into the year I came, and that's the

537
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 4: year he didn't try and incoming.

538
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 2: And I was taking it out on Roddy Press because

539
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 2: I had just played against Roddy at Clemson. We just

540
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: blewed him out. I had him to like zero yolids

541
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 2: and every day practice because I was still lashing out

542
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: because I had been dropped into Drea. I would say,

543
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 2: this is who y'all picked before me, the same guy

544
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: that I shut down. This is what y'all doing. And

545
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 2: so I was like really high scruggs. You see now

546
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: the stories. Once I get high scrug on something, I

547
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:20,719
Speaker 2: don't let it go.

548
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 1: Did How'd Rod take it? Was pissed about that?

549
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 3: Gave no il.

550
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I came out and played some football and kept

551
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 4: it going. I don't know Rod like that, but just

552
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 4: being around them, it's easy going dude, man.

553
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, they don't care about that. So that's a

554
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,239
Speaker 1: little bit about their draft stories and what's going on

555
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: and why they didn't go uh and why I would

556
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: never also go to the green room for the draft.

557
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: But there are here's the list of the guys that

558
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: are going to be going. And of this list, I

559
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 1: think we should talk about guys that we think are

560
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you should watch out guys that could be

561
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: commanders and fall to us at twenty nine. So let's

562
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 1: start Tyler Brooker reguards from Alabama, Johan Campbell whinebacker from Alabama,

563
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: Will Campbell attacking from LSU, Abdul Carter obviously edge from

564
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: Penn State, Matthew Golden wide receiver Texas, Mason Graham DT

565
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: for Michigan, Travis Hunter wide receiver Colorado, and Ash Jend

566
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: running back Boise State. Well Johnson Fred's guy from Michigan

567
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: cornerback Tetro McMillan, wide receiver Arizona. Jalen Millroe quarterback Alabama,

568
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: Malachi Starks Georgia safety Shamar Stewart edge text A M.

569
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: Cam Ward quarterback Miami. I think it'll be the first pick,

570
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: and then Maxwell Harriston cornerback Kentucky.

571
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: You say, all of these guys and.

572
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: They are attending the draft, all of these all right now,

573
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: right now, right now, they could.

574
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 5: Walk out, but as of the day before the draft,

575
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 5: they're the one schedule.

576
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: Can we go down here and say who should not,

577
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 2: who should not tim who should not? Come on?

578
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: Like some guy just I look at this list and

579
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: the guy the name that is and everyone's talking about it,

580
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: Nashally the names it's it's flashing in yellow neon lights

581
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: is Jaalen Milroe. And I like Milroe, but I don't

582
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: like him as a first round player.

583
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: But how many times do we see them reach full quarterback?

584
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: Like that's like the ultimate reach position and hic go

585
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: to think about it. Once they got a good COUMP

586
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: for you, and now they got him comped as a

587
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: faster version. Yeah, somebody gonna say, you know what, we

588
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: can draft it, just it's not start them. And if

589
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna start him, I need to get that

590
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: fifth year. And the only way to get that fifth

591
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 2: years to draft him in the first round. So I

592
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: think it's more strategy then.

593
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: Is he ready? Yeah?

594
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: You know, I think I think a team like Pittsburgh

595
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: just just salivating. I can't wait to draft him and

596
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: put him behind so and so and so and so

597
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: and let him grow.

598
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 4: You know what's crazy about the draft just seeing from

599
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 4: the years of us coming up in this game and

600
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 4: everyone wanted that prototypical quarterback, the one who can you know,

601
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 4: dissect you from the pocket, you know, manipulate you and everything,

602
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 4: and has a you know, quick release.

603
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: The Peyton man.

604
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 4: He's the you know, the Tom Brady's, you know, even

605
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 4: to bless those you know, I mean those guys of

606
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 4: before our time, during our time, you watch them talk

607
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: highly of if they found any quarterback with any inkling

608
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 4: of that you know caliber in that game they wanted

609
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 4: fast forward.

610
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: To today's game. What's today's game.

611
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 4: Been Jayden Hurts or Jayden Daniels or Lamar Jackson.

612
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: It's the mobile quarterbacks.

613
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 4: So when you see a guy, you see a guy

614
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 4: like Merros who you know, he's mobile. The things he

615
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 4: did last year outside the pocket, running seventy plus yard touchdowns. People,

616
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 4: those those those those coaches now saying that we could

617
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,239
Speaker 4: just get him in the beat half as good as

618
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 4: he was throwing the ball, better.

619
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: Better than what he showed last year.

620
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 4: This year and he can still give us that capability

621
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 4: of running outside the pocket. We got ourselves something, you know,

622
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 4: they they want the next best thing like they've seen

623
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: that's taking these teams the distance. So that's why I'm

624
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: not surprised that he's on that list.

625
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 2: That what coaches do they see someone and say I

626
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 2: can fix it. Ain't that the arrogance of when your

627
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: coach you brought up Pittsburgh. That's the place I can

628
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 2: see him going and kind of finding his way because

629
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: had a great coach.

630
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 4: Is now a great had a great office of coordinator

631
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 4: who knows how to use the quarterback quarterback. Yeah, so

632
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 4: it's like, bro, if they defense can stay their defense

633
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 4: and then he could go out there and.

634
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: Just grow into the game. Yeah, bro, I can see

635
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 2: you know.

636
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: And he is the dynamic athlete. Ran on sub four

637
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: four forty at his pro day. He can throw the

638
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: ball and he rocked up. And I think that maybe

639
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: the most important thing that we as analysts watching film

640
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: don't get to see is I have heard his football

641
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: character is off the charts, like leadership like you know

642
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: you mentioned the Hurts compared with yea like great leader, dynamic.

643
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: In the locker room, people gravitate towards him. He's gonna study,

644
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: gonna get better. I think if I know coaches, they're

645
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: gonna have an interview with him, and it's gonna be like, oh,

646
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: this dude's the dude.

647
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: So tell me this.

648
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: Because you've been coaching for a long time on the

649
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 4: high school level and you come here, you talk to

650
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 4: us a lot about certain guys you watch and you

651
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 4: see and why you don't like him or why you

652
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 4: think that he might get not you know that not

653
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: because of something you saw. If you was a guy

654
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 4: and you say, okay, where he's at, he's not a

655
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 4: finished product, but what he could be? Would you take

656
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 4: a chance on him being at you coach offenses and

657
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 4: you saw his skill sets?

658
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I do like Milroe. I just said that

659
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: I think he's maybe like this is not being hyperbolic.

660
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: He's maybe one of the best runners in the class, right,

661
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: Like he's dynamic r. Yeah. I think the problem is

662
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: like the lack of consistency throwing the football. Seems like

663
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: he's got to take a huge step to get there,

664
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: which makes me a little bit nervous about him, right because,

665
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: like I was talking to some other people that I

666
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for, and it's like, yeah,

667
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: he can run, he's got the leadership, but ultimately got

668
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: to throw the football. And you look at Hurts for example,

669
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: he sat for like basically a year and a half, yeah,

670
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: and was able to develop and grow and work on

671
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: his mechanics and improve. Is he going to be afforded

672
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: that same opportunity and is he going to improve the

673
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: same way.

674
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: He has to have the opportunity to blossom.

675
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: Now he goes think about him.

676
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 2: I heard that I found very similar because they both jacked.

677
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: They first thing is to throw hard. When Jalen went

678
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: to Oklahoma, he started to throw with touch and that

679
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: was a throwing team with a head coach. They love

680
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: to throw the.

681
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: Ball all that.

682
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: They probably gave him that insight to do so too.

683
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: Yes, So I just think once he learned to take

684
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,479
Speaker 2: a little bit off the ball and actually anticipate, like

685
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 2: he wanted the guy because he's I'm so strong. He

686
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: wait till you get out, till you get and then

687
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: you can try to jam.

688
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: It in there.

689
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 2: Like I just feel like if you get around some

690
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: pro coaching and build him up, he'll start to really

691
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: throw the ball.

692
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 4: I just want to say, man, get we talk at

693
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 4: nause him about you know, I guess you can say

694
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: developing players, and I hate it because you see a

695
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 4: lot of guys getting into the league and you know

696
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 4: they don't get developed because it's almost like they're getting

697
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 4: rushed to be out there.

698
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: Michael, ready, you see what I'm saying.

699
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 4: And so this is a This is a guy that

700
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 4: I would love to see him a couple of years

701
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: down the road after the team took that chance and

702
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 4: see him and get to the point to where we're

703
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 4: talking about now at throwing the ball, going how to

704
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 4: get rid of the ball, anticipating pass because if you can,

705
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: if you find a way to get him there. Yeah,

706
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 4: with everything else, man, like you say, the leadership qualities,

707
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 4: the way he runs runs with the football, that's where

708
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 4: the game is going. That's where these teams want those

709
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 4: kind of players because they want to they understand those

710
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: guys that's on the defensive edges now and in the

711
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 4: interior getting way bigger, faster, stronger. We need somebody that

712
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: can be able to move outside pond it fix. And

713
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not questioning coaches or or teams that's

714
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: saying that, hey, this might be a guy that we

715
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 4: can bring in and get them court to speed.

716
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: To be a better quarterback for us.

717
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

718
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: I think when you look at the ball of clay

719
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: with Jalen Milroe, it's definitely there. Right. I think the

720
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: problem you hit this tennis, So I'm just kind of

721
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: reiterating what you just said is the problem with the

722
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: NFL is that it's not a developmental league. Now basically

723
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: they say, oh, you can't do it, I'm going to

724
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: get someone else, and they literally like I've had that conversation.

725
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: I want the new thing, so like, oh, I can't

726
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: teach you to do this, shoot, I can find someone

727
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: to do that. And that's where I think the difference

728
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: between good coaches and kind of mediacre coaching the NFL

729
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: level wise is the lack of development. So interesting conversation

730
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: there about Jealen Milrolle. Hopefully it works out. Hopefully it's

731
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: gone early one their.

732
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: Team like be the Raiders, tell you the truth?

733
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 4: Sitting behind Geno and and literally and you know, you

734
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: know that boy that he's like a quarterback whisper Pete Carroll.

735
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll hate ho.

736
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: He know so much? He known for office right, he's

737
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: been on defense.

738
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: I was always questioned that because when I knew that,

739
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 4: you know, d Q was over there, I'm like, well,

740
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 4: who got the knock?

741
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: You know, we go with his defense or did he

742
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: go with Q? You learned from him is how to

743
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: be the whole post of the whole team there with

744
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, do listen.

745
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: I love Pete carricters.

746
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: He hates on high by at the high level. No

747
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: matter where how I go, Pete Carris popper, you like

748
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: to see a round. First of all, Stanford was that

749
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: Stanford winning when Andrew Lugez who popped up Pete Carrolls

750
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: at UNC winning Nation championship. So guess what? How about

751
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: said he gonna going to the league. Where you going?

752
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to the forty nine ers, pet Cats? All right,

753
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to Seattle win the super Bowl?

754
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: There.

755
00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: I guess what I think?

756
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: Carbark after him?

757
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: No, well, how ball came back to college? Right, Pete

758
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: Carroll tied? Then how about said I'm going back to

759
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: the league. Get what Pete Canzie pumped up? I'm coming

760
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: right back up and you're gonna be in my saint Yeah,

761
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: yes I am, yeah, yeah, yeah.

762
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: I don't think the Raiders taking them at six.

763
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about get back in the bottom of

764
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: the first. Get back in the bottom of the first.

765
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: Take genty with your first peak. That's a win that peak,

766
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: and then take a win later peak and meal Roads

767
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: putting behind Geno.

768
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about let's make this a little

769
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: bit more commander centric, because I don't think they're going

770
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: to take a quarterback. I don't think they're taking Jalen

771
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: Miller in the first round at twenty nine. That doesn't

772
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: feel like something the commanders are going to do because

773
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: we got a really good one here already.

774
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: So they make it whole off a meal road because

775
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: the eye guy was ready like ready ready, ready ready.

776
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: All right, So of this list, do you see a commander?

777
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: And while you guys are looking, I just want to

778
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: say a couple of things. I think there's three or

779
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: four guys at the top they're going to go really early.

780
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: And those guys are Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter, cam Ward.

781
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: Those are three guys. I'm gonna throw Mason Graham in

782
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: there too, but it's I think he could slide a

783
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: little bit, but I think he's gonna be Johnson in

784
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: there too. Yeah. But see, so to me everybody else

785
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: that I didn't mention, I could see them going anywhere

786
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: from six to thirty five. And like that doesn't mean

787
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: I don't like the players. I just think when you

788
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: talk to people in this draft, like I had a

789
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: conversation with someone yesterday about Will Johnson and it was like, oh,

790
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: he's fortieth on my board and I was like, you're

791
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: you're a liar, Like, there's no way that's true. He

792
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: was being dead seriously. So it's again it's this year

793
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: specifically is so subjective, so that with that throwing that

794
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: out there, I think all these guys have the potential

795
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: to take a slide. I think Ashton Genty probably goes

796
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: in the tent like the high twenties, late teens, and

797
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: in a worst case scenario, but if he did take

798
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: a slide, like it wouldn't totally surprise me because the

799
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: running back value if they can get a blue chip guy.

800
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: But one guy in particular that I think fits this

801
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: mold or embodies this at the highest level as Tyler Booker,

802
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: the guard from Alibai. So I've seen him mocked in

803
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: the top ten. I've also seen him in the bottom

804
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: of the second round. Yeah, him over to play, and

805
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: I do think just from what I've heard about him

806
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: that he is a Commander's football player. He is everyone

807
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: says his intangibles are excellent. He's like the leader of

808
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: the offense and he plays left guard right. He finishes.

809
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: He's a little slow footed, but he's long, he's big.

810
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: He's like three twenty five. He's six six, He's got

811
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: these thirty four thirty five inch arms. So he's just

812
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: a big man, strong man. He's going to get better.

813
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: He can play all three interior positions. And so if

814
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: he were to take a little bit of a skid

815
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: and he's sitting there at twenty nine, like, I think

816
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: that just from like the off field stuff, the way

817
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: he plays the game, could totally be a commander. And

818
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: I've brought that up to fans are like, I'm not I

819
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: don't want to take a guard. Think about this. You

820
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: got Laramie Tunsel, got Tyler Booker. Yeah, you got Beatish

821
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: in this at center be Cosmey and then Brandon Coleman

822
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: like that all of a sudden becomes a one of

823
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 1: the missus. Lad. I just like that, just like that,

824
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: And so that to me is one that I think

825
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: would be really interesting.

826
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: Well I will one up you with this.

827
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: Hey, let's go for it, all right.

828
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: Since you went to Alabama, I'm going to the lone

829
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: star state of Texas. We got Matt through Golden. I'm

830
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: gonna do Golden because he adds an element that's not

831
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: on this team right now. It's just flat out gas patch.

832
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm talking about a guy that just can flat out

833
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: a clear our king is what I call some players

834
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: as a dB. When we see him on the field,

835
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: we already know what route they got. They don't mean

836
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: you can stop it, but we already know what route

837
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: you got. Do you know what met through? Golden could

838
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: open up for Debo intermediately? Well, he can open up

839
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: for zach Ertz intermediately. Like this dude becomes an instant

840
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: check with me player when he comes in the game. Hey,

841
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: met through in the game? Safety get back a little bit.

842
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: That just opened up a fifteen year old wonder for

843
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: them to hit a dacker. So sometime it ain't about

844
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: to yours you bring, It's about what can you do

845
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: for your teammates?

846
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: I say, Golden right there? Do you think he plays

847
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: that fast? I think I think he's a he's the

848
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: mind of world wide receiver. I think he plays incredibly.

849
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: He does the fundamentals really well.

850
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: Like is he explosive? That's what I don't know. If

851
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 2: he's verticed, I don't.

852
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 4: I don't care about how fast you are in running

853
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,479
Speaker 4: your rounds. I wanted I want to When he gets

854
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: the ball is when he gets the ball in his hand,

855
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 4: can't he He's just shaken around the phone boot and

856
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 4: get down here.

857
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: Gets separate separation.

858
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: He gets separation, and I see, I know what you're

859
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 2: hitting that he gets separation. Is he totally polished?

860
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: No?

861
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: Do he play with to the top of his speed

862
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: dominant all the time. No, But guess what, that's why

863
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: you got these guys in this building to help mold players.

864
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: Like he hasn't reached his ceiling.

865
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: And that's what I like in a draft. I don't

866
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: want to finish product. So if we were to take

867
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: Matthew Golden twenty nine, I'd be ecstatic because he's like,

868
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: he's my number one receiver above tet Tram McMillan. Oh

869
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: do you yeah? He can stop start, he can. He

870
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: doesn't do any speeding it out of his cuts ten

871
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: He catches the football like with great body control. Again,

872
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: like he ran a four two nine or for whatever

873
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: it was, for three two, whatever it was. He's fast,

874
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I've ever seen him run

875
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: that fast, Like you know, like when you watch Maxwell Harrison,

876
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: You're like that dude's fast. Yeah, because Golden as I'm

877
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: always like how fast.

878
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: They go with some of you got so relaxed that

879
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: they don't look like Jameson Williams. Jameson Williams, he got

880
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: this loan scribe and I'd be like, oh, he moving,

881
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: but it don't look like he moving. You see what

882
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying. What you mean deceptive speed? Yeah, decept speed?

883
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: No, I'm with you on that. So he's an in

884
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: string one. I mean him and Tetra McMillan both. I

885
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: think I think I can see Tetro taking a little

886
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: bit of sliding and being there like is that likely

887
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: to happen to me? Probably not, but could it happened? Absolutely, Drake.

888
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 4: I love to see you know, I tell y'all that

889
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna keep going with Mike Green. I

890
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 4: love to see him, you know, sliding and slide one

891
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 4: down and got him going at twenty eight to who

892
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 4: that who does in front of us?

893
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: Detroit?

894
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love to see Detroit say ah be food,

895
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 4: Jo want somebody else?

896
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 3: And he'd be sitting right there for the taking.

897
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 4: But then they got to do Maxwell Harrison going to

898
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 4: us at twenty nine on some people mock so mean

899
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 4: like I couldn't. I wouldn't deny that because I look

900
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 4: at our defense in the back situation. Now, it's great

901
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: to have depth. We have some guys there that's capable.

902
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 4: We have a guy who we we guess we just

903
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 4: traded for last year late in the season and not

904
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 4: knowing how long he's going to be around the league.

905
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: It'll be great to bring in a guy we just

906
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: talked about how fast he was and playing in this defense.

907
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: Man. We could just just.

908
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 4: Just picture him in this defense with these coaches and

909
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 4: this staff man. You can see that guy being one

910
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: of the top guys along with Santa Steel. So, you know,

911
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 4: so many guys, like we say, you don't know what's

912
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: going to happen. But if I had to pick two,

913
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: those two stand out to me because I love Mike Green,

914
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 4: knowing that we just got rid of a guy like Fouler.

915
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

916
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 4: He has that same body type to me, like, you know,

917
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 4: not so big, fast, twitchy. You know, I'm sure he

918
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 4: can learn a lot from some of those guys who's

919
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 4: already there. If we don't get him, then Max would

920
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 4: be the next guy that I can see that, you know,

921
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 4: I love to be a commander.

922
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, uh, I think that's a great point.

923
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: I think there's a very good chance he could be

924
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 1: there at twenty nine. We'll see. But the other guy

925
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: I have, I have a very high grade on Malachi Starks.

926
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: He's like my tenth player, tenth player in the first round.

927
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: But I think he's like I've seen Mox where he

928
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: takes a slide and I think he says that the flexibility,

929
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: the nickel, the safety ability. And then Shamar Stewart also

930
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: like some people have him as high of eight, some

931
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: people have him in the sixties. I think in terms

932
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: of physical play style, athletic upside, you know, just the

933
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: kind of wired the right way from a competitor.

934
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: Staple, Well, it scares me.

935
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: But at twenty nine, though, is it that scary?

936
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: No, No, what scares me is I'm a film dude.

937
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: I want to see you go make plays against other

938
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: college players. I'm with you, and this dude numbers jump

939
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 2: off the board forty vertical bitch bris And then I

940
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: look at his production. Yeah, and he got forts do

941
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: we even got four.

942
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: Sacks in four years, four and a half sacks of

943
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: the last two years.

944
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: So so all I'm saying is, if you ain't get

945
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: them sacks on the college key, can I say that

946
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna te in the corner.

947
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: What we were just talking about that this staff does

948
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: really well.

949
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they set you up and put you in And

950
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: I just.

951
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: Think about I think about my guy Ryan Kerrigan. I

952
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: think about Darryl Tappa working with one of the freakiest

953
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: athletes ever to come through the combine. And and yet dude, Freddy,

954
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: yet he like had a very good pressure for so

955
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: he got to it, want it up. I'm just saying,

956
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: we just get that guy going in the right direction.

957
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: Put it in nine man at twenty nine. Yeah, And

958
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. I agree with you. I

959
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: agree with you. I agree, But I'm just saying, like

960
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: you just said twenty nine.

961
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: It's like I'm saying that if you saw, if you,

962
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: if me and you was in the GM and that

963
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: we was in the scout thing, and he was like, hey,

964
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: fred I want you to check this guy out. He's

965
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: a wide receiver with six feet tall, runner four to

966
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: two forty, And I'm like, oh my god, how many

967
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: catches he got in conte He ain't got a bout four?

968
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: What can I do with that?

969
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: No, but I will. So this is the thing about

970
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: defensive alignment right, if they have a good athletic profile.

971
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: Ideally you want both good athletic profile the production. Then

972
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: that's like Jared Verst last year, just to put that

973
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: thing on the tee heat it out of the park.

974
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: If they have good athletic production. There are case studies

975
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: where that does work out. And I'm saying later in

976
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: the first round in a weaker draft, when you're like that,

977
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: the ceiling on that is sky high.

978
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 4: But but what would be the what is the reason

979
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 4: and behind that lack of productive What.

980
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: Is the reason?

981
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: What is the reason behind that lack of productivity that

982
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: will give you the right to say that I still

983
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 4: want to take.

984
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: A chance because it's the athletic profile, the profile.

985
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: But also like you played a lot of like tight

986
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: to the tackle five technique four, I like not hard

987
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: to rush the pass from there. Right, They were really

988
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: worried about the r PO zone read stuff. So they're

989
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: kind of doing all this and so I do. But

990
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: like when he flashes.

991
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: Man, so you see the flash, You see that he has.

992
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: It in him.

993
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: When you go to the Senior Bowl, man, when you

994
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: watch so this is sener Bowl is like the best

995
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: players in the country, right, Like the best college players,

996
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: and when that dude comes onto the field, it he's bigger,

997
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: he's stronger, he's faster than every single person on the field.

998
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: Is he the most refined person? No, but watching him

999
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: bull rush Emery Jones, like lift him up like he's

1000
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: a small child and throw him into the quarterback in

1001
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: one on ones. Yeah, just like we can figure it out. Yeah.

1002
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: See, I'm more, especially when you got other guys twenty nine.

1003
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: I'm not saying take that top taglet in my ingredients.

1004
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm more. I walked the player. They love the game

1005
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: more than I like the player. The God's gift like

1006
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: God's guilt.

1007
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: And this is a it's a great it's a great point.

1008
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: Like if we had an interview with him and he

1009
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: was a bad interview, Yeah, but if he's like ready

1010
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: to go, I just want to get better. Yeah, Like

1011
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: that's a different thing. And that's why those thirty visits

1012
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: are so important. That's why the meetings of the combined

1013
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: are so important. But I do think when you look

1014
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: at this list, like I'd say, there's six guys that

1015
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: could fall down in twenty nine that would be very good.

1016
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 4: I asked this question because I always thought in first

1017
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: round selections. You want a guy that can capable be

1018
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 4: coming in play right now at what number you get

1019
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 4: to in the first round where you say, okay, these

1020
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 4: are guys that I'm taking their press on that I

1021
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 4: feel like, I just.

1022
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 3: Don't want him to go nowhere else, fall nowhere else.

1023
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: So I just did my big board, my top one hundre,

1024
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: which is now on the Commander's website. You know how

1025
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: many people having Tier one, three, three, three? Yeah, you

1026
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 1: know people haven't tiered in the second tier. Who would

1027
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: be fifty sixty plus no tier two? So like I

1028
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: have five, So there's eight players that I'm like, there's

1029
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: a reasonable chance to become good starters. So one to

1030
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: eight we're okay. After that, it's it's a yeah, it's

1031
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: it's beauty is in the ether beholder. And that's what

1032
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying with this people that are coming here, it's like, yeah, man,

1033
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of names I hear that people like,

1034
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: no way they're gonna be there twenty nine. I'm telling you, yeah,

1035
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you're gonna see some crazy stuff in

1036
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: this draft that we have.

1037
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 4: We've seen it for years for years that didn't have

1038
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 4: a lick of film, but you.

1039
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: Ran four different thrown.

1040
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 2: Know, this feels more erratic than I have ever seen

1041
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: any year, Like even to the point where I'm here.

1042
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: You know how you you get your lip brother something

1043
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: he like, I don't want it, but I take it anyway.

1044
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: This draft feel I don't want cam Ward, but I'm

1045
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: taking me anyway. You know, it's this, It's like we

1046
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: forced the boy this stuff. Yeah you're picking, and it's

1047
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: like nobody won't go to the grocery store. Like it's

1048
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: like everybody like, yeah, yeah, whatever. But I'm like, to me,

1049
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: this is the most blue collar after having this Star

1050
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: Study draft last year, this is blue collar. So this

1051
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. It's a tons of starters in

1052
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: this draft. It might not be tons of Pro Bowlers

1053
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: and Hall of Famers, but when I say tons of guys,

1054
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: if you know, how should I say run some guys

1055
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: out of the league.

1056
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys.

1057
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: Are gonna replace a lot of Star Wars guys.

1058
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: I have a question hater.

1059
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 5: Here. So because they're all kind of bunched up, how

1060
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 5: important is like the thirty visits he interview process and

1061
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 5: stuff like that that we're not privy to and most

1062
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 5: of the national media is and privy to that's going

1063
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 5: to decide a lot of disorder.

1064
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: That's the most intimate time you got with them.

1065
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it. Some most it's the

1066
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: most important the film. The film's most important.

1067
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: But then it's like, yeah, but when I say intimate type,

1068
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: I don't feel like the combine is intimate. But I

1069
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: want to come get out of this.

1070
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 4: I want I wonder how much the coaches get out

1071
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: of there just having that sit down with those guys.

1072
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: Because you've got so many other guys around, you know,

1073
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 4: you're not really getting the I'm just talking about these

1074
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 4: little visits when they film and meet like with four

1075
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 4: or five other guys, you know.

1076
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: So what I'd say is you asked me something about

1077
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: like coaching high school ball, and what the like, the

1078
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: main thing of high school ball is is getting to

1079
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: know the kid. And if I know the kid, I

1080
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,479
Speaker 1: know what they can do. I know how they're wired

1081
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: enough to communicate with them. I'm like, okay, that's like

1082
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: that's literally more important than talent, more important than.

1083
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: Peopel, Like you can least kind of lead him to

1084
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: put on them.

1085
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: And so that's what these visits are about you know

1086
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, can this guy Shamar Stewart's

1087
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: a great example who was an athletic freak. Is he

1088
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: mentally wired in a way that I can communicate with him?

1089
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: Do I want to communicate with him? Is he a

1090
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: big idiot? I remember I had a meeting with a

1091
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: guy talking with the coach last year, and I said,

1092
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: what do you think about player so and so? He's

1093
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: a good player, but I don't like him as a person.

1094
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: So they're not gonna draft.

1095
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: Back because they don't, you know what I mean.

1096
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: And even though the kid like the film was greaty,

1097
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: he's like, I just don't like them. And so that's

1098
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: where that is so important, because who you're going to

1099
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: invest more time with? The guy that you like, the

1100
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: guy that you're motivated to be around every day?

1101
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy.

1102
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: And so that's where these visits it's just to give

1103
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: you an insight about like this is how Santanamos is wired,

1104
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: this is how Fred's Spoot's wired, and can I make

1105
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: this work?

1106
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 4: And we're gonna because I'm just I was just basically

1107
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 4: trying to piggyback off of Jason's question because just I

1108
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 4: remember being on visits and I'm like, man, it's too

1109
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: many guys for y'all to really get to know. You

1110
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 4: might get asking questions to me, Like I know in

1111
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: my visits, they ain't get to know nothing about me

1112
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 4: because I'm in there. I barely said anything. When they

1113
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 4: pull my film up, I sat down in the bag.

1114
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 4: It's like, oh yeah, everybody, I want to see his film.

1115
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 4: And then the guys like, oh, well he was a

1116
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 4: hands catcher. I didn't think you they were ready to

1117
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 4: knock me.

1118
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1119
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 4: But that was those are the guys that was competing

1120
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 4: against you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm sitting there a choir.

1121
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 4: So the I remember we was in Kansas City and

1122
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 4: the guy was like, it's oh damn, what his name Winston?

1123
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: Because we had I had his brother in New York.

1124
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 4: But it's crazy. That's probably why he got me. But

1125
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 4: his brother in Casey at the time forgot his name.

1126
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be mad.

1127
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 4: It's gonna come up to me later. He saved my

1128
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: highlight for last. And I remember one of the guy's

1129
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 4: not draft class. He actually went to what did he

1130
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 4: go to k C? He wore eighty nine. He went

1131
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 4: to he went to Green Bay. What his name is

1132
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 4: from Texas?

1133
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 2: Oh, I know exactly who you talk about. You gonna

1134
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: hit me. So when he put it on, he's like, oh, yeah,

1135
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: I'm finna. I want to see this everybody. I'm like, well,

1136
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: damned Robert Ferguson. Ferguson and Rob Robin my boy.

1137
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1138
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 4: And then after he watched the highlight, say, oh, I

1139
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 4: ain't know he was a hands catcher.

1140
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: I thought he caught everything with his butt. I'm like,

1141
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: only when I got to buddy, not just laughed at off.

1142
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 4: So the guy told me he hit me, Say, I

1143
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 4: did that on purpose because I know you the only

1144
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 4: guy here ain't bragging about yourself yet and you our

1145
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 4: guy on our list, but we know we gonna be

1146
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 4: able to get you. But getting back to what I

1147
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 4: was talking about, you don't really get a chance to

1148
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 4: know these guys for that little bit of time you

1149
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 4: have them, especially when they're around the other guys.

1150
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting because like even in that conversation, like.

1151
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: They got to know his dad knew a little bit

1152
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 2: about coach.

1153
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: Knew you, got to know you. The coach knew a

1154
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: little bit about Ferguson, and like that's why they took

1155
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: him a talk golf last year, right, see how they

1156
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: interact and that's really what you're trying to figure out,

1157
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: right if it works.

1158
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, I know because I had a coach, because

1159
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: I took a trip to Casey meet Snoop Minis all.

1160
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: This was on the same trip And first thing they

1161
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: wanted to do with me was put me on the chalkboard.

1162
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: And I thought it was just peak to see my

1163
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: football knowledge, i Q. I think they just want to

1164
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: see how communicated football because they want to ask me

1165
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: no question that I couldn't answer, like I'm zipping through

1166
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: that you donna do this, you gonna do this, do

1167
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: this right here, and if he moved right here, I'm

1168
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: gonna do this right So and I think they just

1169
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 2: want to see how because I was known as a trench,

1170
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 2: they won't know what do he really talked trans as

1171
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: he's just educated talking the AQ. So that's what it

1172
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: was about with me, No, And.

1173
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: I think that's right. And I think like one another

1174
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: thing I talked to somebody recently about like you know,

1175
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: if you're not going on thirty visits, what does that mean?

1176
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1177
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: And they because you know you said, you didn't go

1178
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: on visits, right, They said, well, they know you, they

1179
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: know what you're about, so they don't need to know.

1180
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: So if you're coming on visits and they're trying to.

1181
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 3: And then also we forget how many times they reach.

1182
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 4: Out to those high school teachers, girlfriends, cousins. And when

1183
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 4: I say I bump into people in the street, they

1184
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I talked to the NFL for you,

1185
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 4: and I'm like, they called you, yes, And it's like

1186
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 4: you get surprised by because you didn't know it was

1187
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 4: to that extent, like you know you not, damn you

1188
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 4: extremely trying to dive as deep as you can kid

1189
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 4: in the years. And it's crazy because that's one of

1190
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 4: the things like especially in certain households, like my dad

1191
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 4: always to tell me, man, your what do.

1192
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: You just say?

1193
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,959
Speaker 4: The first impression is the best, you know what I'm saying,

1194
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: And so like whatever they think of you to me,

1195
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 4: even if you don't be about whatever you showed them,

1196
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: that's gonna.

1197
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: Be as lasting, you know what I mean.

1198
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 4: Last, And so I used to always say to myself regardless,

1199
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 4: if I'm gonna dude, when I get around my homeboys,

1200
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 4: I'd like to have fun when I come into this

1201
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 4: meeting and show them that I'm.

1202
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: By my business, you know what I'm saying.

1203
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 4: And you think back of all those people that you

1204
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 4: crossed paths with, whether you was a a hole tom

1205
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 4: or not, you'd be like, well, damn, I hope they

1206
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 4: ain't talk to the wrong I never cared because I

1207
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 4: know I've always been a cool dude, you know what

1208
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 4: I mean. Hey, look, I don't know you from nothing,

1209
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 4: so I ain't finna go out here and go out

1210
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 4: my way and be somebody that I ain't. But when

1211
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 4: you think about it, you'd be like, well, damn, that's

1212
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 4: why certain guys don't get a chance to see that

1213
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 4: team or two that may have a high grade on them,

1214
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 4: because they found out.

1215
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: That maybe we don't want to bring that headache in here.

1216
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I heard you talking about

1217
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 4: it the other day. He was like, Look, I'm taking

1218
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 4: a chance on the guy who's a great football player.

1219
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: If he got a couple of problems, I can always

1220
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 4: coach that, get that get him around somewhere where we're

1221
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 4: gonna love on him.

1222
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: We'll get the best out here. Yes, especially if I

1223
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 2: got the right veterance in here, they're gonna make suit good.

1224
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: Like that's the thing about it, like what I had

1225
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 2: said that three four years ago.

1226
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: No, no, no, we just can't do it.

1227
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: We ain't got the capacity, all.

1228
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: Right, So that's gonna do it. For that section on

1229
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: the draft and the meetings and why it's important a

1230
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: lot to move the next thing and it's called sell

1231
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: me something.

1232
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: Good, tell me something, and so basically.

1233
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: I want we're all gonna pick a prospect and it

1234
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be a fit for the commanders, but

1235
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: we're just gonna sell that player to you, the audience,

1236
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: and why do you like him? And you want to

1237
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: start because I was thinking about your royal sales pitch

1238
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: earlier and I thought that should be the.

1239
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: No. Listen, I just love just going back through that pitch.

1240
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: I just think he's a weapon, so a royal.

1241
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: Royal from Miami, talk from Miami.

1242
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: He's fast, he's big, he's wrong when you bring him

1243
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 2: in the game. The first question defensive coordinator got an X.

1244
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 2: Who am I putting on him? Safety, corner, linebacker, move guy.

1245
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: I think he can do everything. He's a chest piece.

1246
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: The one thing I think when you when you're building

1247
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 2: an on me, you want an arsenal, all right. I

1248
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: just can't have one hundred tanks and no planes. I

1249
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: need to have tanks, planes, jeeps, automobiles.

1250
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: I need it all.

1251
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: I need diversity. I don't need all my tight ends

1252
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: to look the same. I don't need them to play

1253
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: the same. I don't want my running backs do all

1254
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: look the same. I don't want them to play the same,

1255
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: just like my wide receiver group.

1256
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: Do you add auroral to this?

1257
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 2: Like I told you, imagine gold line erth said tight

1258
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: with the motion debo to the backfield. Second motion is

1259
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: a roller coming across the formation. Once JD five starts

1260
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: to roll that way, you don't know what to do.

1261
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 2: You don't know who got who first of all. First

1262
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: thing they got to say is which one of us

1263
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 2: on debo? This's the argument between the cone in and safety.

1264
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: The next argument is between the safety and the linebacker.

1265
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: Who got a roar?

1266
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: Guess who that came open? Zach Hurtz for his one

1267
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: hundred and nineteen thousand touchdown. All I'm saying is that

1268
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: dude is a move piece. You can indeed you playing

1269
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 2: him sparely, all right, So it ain't like he a

1270
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: legit starter he just an alert, just like de Boys

1271
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: alert when he come in defensive playoff, were gonna alert

1272
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 2: with them to come in when they come in.

1273
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: As a pair.

1274
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: You don't know what to do.

1275
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: Don't add achola to it.

1276
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: Like it just one problem after another one.

1277
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: It's a great pitch. It's a really good I.

1278
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 4: Just say it's one problem after I already told you

1279
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 4: a great salesperson.

1280
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm sold.

1281
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 4: So I just and I know the capabilities that he got,

1282
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 4: he would brains in his offense.

1283
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean, damn yeah. So for me, I'm gonna take

1284
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: an easy one. I did it earlier today on ticket

1285
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: of the draft, and it's Jailen Travis. I have talked

1286
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: to a lot of people and I can't. I think

1287
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm higher on him than a lot of people. But

1288
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: I look at for a late round tackle, you have

1289
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: to have some minimal thresholds to start in the NFL. Right,

1290
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: You have to have arm length, you have to have

1291
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: foot speed. So he's six seven and a half, big

1292
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: old house, he's three forty. He's got thirty five inch arms.

1293
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: You're running five to one forty at the combine. He's

1294
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: got a thirty five inch vertical he transferred from Princeton.

1295
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: So smart dude, t i Iowa State. You watch the

1296
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: first six games of the year at Iowa State struggled

1297
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: a bit. You watch the last six games that played

1298
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: really well. Has a really good feel for being big

1299
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: and being in the way, and for tackles who can

1300
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: pass protect, they usually find a way to play football

1301
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: in the nf home. That's exactly right. So when I

1302
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: look at him, I say, in a in a class

1303
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: that's devoid of tackle talent. Right at the top, it's thin, right,

1304
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: we just we've talked about yah because his.

1305
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: Questions about Willi camb we're coaching the bat like every

1306
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: lays one of them.

1307
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's then at the top you move down, you're like, well,

1308
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: maybe Anthony Belton, but he's probably gonna be in the

1309
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: third round. Yeah, right, and Scranton have a pick there.

1310
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: You down the fourth, fifth round. There's nobody who can

1311
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: play tackle in the NFL, and out of tackers had

1312
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: to move to go and I see Jalen Travis and

1313
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the one that I hold up on

1314
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: a pedestal and say, if you need someone late to

1315
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: play right tackle in the NFL. Yeah, that's the guy.

1316
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: And so that's my sales pitch on Jalen track. They

1317
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: go to seven and a half three forty yeah, five

1318
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: thirty five inch vertical right like r V.

1319
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, just like telling the kids were going

1320
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: and we're going, we're going across the United States for the.

1321
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: Summer getting that RV and so for the for his

1322
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: moving skills, former basketball player, like I just feel like,

1323
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: yeah for a late round tackle, that's the guy you

1324
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: want to find. Yeah, yeah, so you got one of you.

1325
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: You've been big on Mike Green lately, but.

1326
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: I've been been on Mike Green.

1327
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna go with somebody who's who's not in

1328
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 4: nobody's radar, and he's in a lot of people radar.

1329
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 4: But I know we talked about him earlier. Well we

1330
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 4: could go and y'all say, y'all ain't like the way

1331
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 4: you ran Asari? Sorry, Yeah, you know the reason why

1332
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna talk about him because me and my cousin.

1333
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: My cousin coached him at Florida State and.

1334
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 4: The first the first kid you know what he is,

1335
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like we could sit here

1336
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 4: talk about we can sit here and talk about tangibly,

1337
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 4: but but I'm I want a guy that I know that's.

1338
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: Gonna be all about football.

1339
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 4: And then when you talking about Adam to a secondary

1340
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 4: where you know this is probably one one of the

1341
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: most improved secondaries in the whole NFL, I didn't hear it.

1342
00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: I just saw it.

1343
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 4: I saw these guys go out there and bring in

1344
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 4: guys ad guys from the safety position, add guys from

1345
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 4: the cornerback position that I know this kid can learn from.

1346
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 4: Then you got another guy on the other side that

1347
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 4: just came in here and just played flat out. And

1348
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 4: Sandy still just think about what a younger guy going

1349
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 4: to come in and say, Okay, I want to be

1350
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 4: like that. I want to I want to be able

1351
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 4: to be too to what sentence to what picked sentence

1352
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 4: to bring what did you do last year that made

1353
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 4: you so special in this defense?

1354
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: And with the coaches, I don't have to.

1355
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 4: Say much, but the thing that I'm going to hold

1356
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 4: up high beyond tangibles and measurables and all that stuff.

1357
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 4: God here man we know that to him and knows football,

1358
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 4: all he wants to play is ball. He ain't thinking

1359
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 4: about nothing outside. He ain't thinking about how fast his

1360
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 4: car gonna be. He wants to go out there and

1361
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 4: play football. And he has a size to go out there.

1362
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 4: And when you talk about one of our guys that

1363
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 4: were replacing them with and Saint Jews, Saint Juice, he

1364
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 4: got the sides to go along with it.

1365
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 2: I talked.

1366
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 4: I talked to my cousin brief and I say, hey, bro,

1367
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 4: what just tell me what to think about him? I

1368
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 4: watched this game a little bit. What do you think

1369
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 4: about He say, Tanna, hen't run well. So everybody, you know,

1370
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 4: they got their up and down you know, thoughts on them.

1371
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 4: But if you want a guy to come in and

1372
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 4: play ball, if you want a guy as well coach

1373
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 4: and that's gonna be coachable, that's your guy, no matter

1374
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 4: where you're.

1375
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 2: Picking them at.

1376
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want a football player, he's one of them.

1377
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: That's a great sales pitch because I think that's ultimately

1378
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: like the pitcher're gonna get in the in the in

1379
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: the war room. It's that kind of pitch. Like he's

1380
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: a he loves ball, he's competitive, he's tough. When you

1381
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: sit with he hear that. And I watched the film.

1382
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: You know he did run slow, but I see a

1383
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: competitive a dog ass competitor.

1384
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 2: Steady have much, but he stood.

1385
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: Out like he's willing to tackle, get up and challenge you.

1386
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: You watch him at the senior ball.

1387
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: I think that the first time I've ever seen Santana

1388
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: Field sorry from Florida State. I think he had a

1389
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: look at his act Like y'all don't say they still

1390
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: in Florida, man, I got true sympathy. You know, I

1391
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 2: know they ain't good, but good whoop them last year?

1392
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: Unless I forget I got let's not forget our guy.

1393
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 2: Just can I sell you one?

1394
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 5: Because I have watched a lot of guys this year

1395
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 5: for the tap to the draft. Probably, No, it's not

1396
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 5: all right, we already I want the ticket to the draft.

1397
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 5: We've talked about all these guys, so I'm bringing them

1398
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 5: up again. But I'm going to sell you in this

1399
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 5: guy because we didn't. I don't think we sold him

1400
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 5: hard enough when the last ticket to their draft pod

1401
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 5: and that's l O Maynor, the wide receiver from Stanford.

1402
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: He is so good, Tanna.

1403
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 5: He's six two to ten, He's a true ex He

1404
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 5: hasn't played a lot of football, as Jeremy Green told

1405
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 5: us around He's only played like thirty some games. So

1406
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 5: he's still tailing in freshman Fred Smooth does, but you

1407
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 5: never know it because he can never.

1408
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: Play the same play.

1409
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: See have no idea what he's talking about. It.

1410
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 5: But it's this guy that was close actually from Stanford,

1411
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 5: all right.

1412
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: So here's the thing.

1413
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 5: Is like the thing that sold me when watching his

1414
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 5: tape was actually not from last year. It was from

1415
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three because I wanted to see a match

1416
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 5: up against a top tier corner. So they played Colorado,

1417
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 5: which is true. His hunter was on him and he

1418
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 5: was shut down the first half, didn't get a target

1419
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 5: his way. The game was getting a little bit out

1420
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 5: of hand. Stanford comes storming back and he gets two

1421
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 5: hundred and night.

1422
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, he went off with that game off on he went.

1423
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: He is good. And when I say, when I say,

1424
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: he's wrong, like you said, he ain't playing with two games,

1425
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: you see, I already have a high.

1426
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm not the name person.

1427
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: I just knew that. I knew who you talk. Once

1428
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: you say he went off the second I.

1429
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 5: Know that June ninety four three, and that's with arguably

1430
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 5: the best corner in the draft.

1431
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: The drafts un bade them green eggs, and hay, what

1432
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: I know and if you really know athletes, you can

1433
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 2: look at you like, oh, he really doing this and

1434
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 2: he don't know money, he don't know he wait till

1435
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: you put a brain in his head.

1436
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: He got that brain.

1437
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: This that what he was he out there like listen,

1438
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: he out there like the crow. He didn't want to brain.

1439
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 4: No, but he did seem raw, you know that game,

1440
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 4: to seem like a guy that he was doing things

1441
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 4: that he was like it ain't nothing, really, this is

1442
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 4: what my my ability can allow me to run out.

1443
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 4: But if you really get somebody behind him, yeah, and

1444
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 4: don't let.

1445
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: Him get on the team with a real like that

1446
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: say adventurer. They don't use the ability to get over. Yeah,

1447
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: he's gonna turn into a beast like he would be

1448
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 2: one of them guys that blew him like a and

1449
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: then he.

1450
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 4: All saw a different body type. Yeah, yeah, I mean

1451
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 4: we don't really good body type. That's a good one

1452
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 4: right there. Like no, I agree with you one hundred percent.

1453
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: I do like that. Hey listen, I agree with Jay

1454
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: on that one right there.

1455
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: All right. And just to guy Jason, I just he

1456
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: just walked out and now hater Jason's here, hate, I.

1457
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: Don't spun way of the hate.

1458
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 5: It's amazing that there can be hate coming up on

1459
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 5: the draft.

1460
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 2: It's a time of hope. But it doesn't matter. There's

1461
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 2: some fans that just have hate on one of them.

1462
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, most definitely you are guys.

1463
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 5: We just don't have enough draft picks to be effective

1464
00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 5: in this draft.

1465
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: I'm upset we're not gonna get that much better. First

1466
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: of all, great teams in his league don't depend on

1467
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 2: draft picks. Great teams in his league don't go into

1468
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: the year worrying about draft in the first round and

1469
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: need him to store it. If you need your first

1470
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: round and to store you a mediocre team, we are

1471
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 2: going to play. Draft picks are icing on the cake.

1472
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: Maybe they play, maybe they don't. But on good teams,

1473
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 2: we don't depend on children. That's how we see it

1474
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: down South, Charing. We don't depend on cheering breach to them.

1475
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I do think it's something that a

1476
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: lot of teams would be concerned about. But I'm not

1477
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: concerned about it really because Adam Peters is our gym. Yeah,

1478
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: and so I look at last year he signed a

1479
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: bunch of udfas. Three of those guys made the team. Yeah,

1480
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: you know they made the active rosters, so there's other

1481
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: ways to get young talented players in the roster. And

1482
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: also if you're more selective with your five and hit

1483
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: on those five, Yeah, and make sure you identify what

1484
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: is the commander, which I think Adam's gonna do, like

1485
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: you increase the hit rate. Then, plus what you're the

1486
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: work you do in free agency. The stuff we did

1487
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: with the trades supplements the draft, right, works together, Right,

1488
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: It all works together, So it's not you can't just

1489
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 1: look at the picks as the variable because it's part

1490
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: of a larger landscape of how do we do with

1491
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: u DFAs, how do we do in free agency? Like

1492
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: what those picks went to bring in good players?

1493
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, it's no Laramie Tuns in this draft.

1494
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: So if we gave up the twenty ninth pick, we

1495
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 2: won Trent. Right, it's bigger than Nino Brown, is bigger

1496
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: than the draft.

1497
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 4: And they showed you in the free agency world, they

1498
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 4: went out there and got the best of the best. Yeah,

1499
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 4: when it came time to trade for those guys, they

1500
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 4: went up there and got some of the most available

1501
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 4: guys that we can get into trade. If Fred said

1502
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 4: the best and I hate saying that he said it best.

1503
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 4: But if you got to go in the draft like

1504
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 4: we did last year and bank on Jayden Dames to

1505
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 4: be out there and be the quarterback he was and

1506
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 4: hit because that was one of those guys you really

1507
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 4: see you not that we hit.

1508
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: We hit. We didn't.

1509
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: We didn't only hit with a quarterback when I.

1510
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 4: Right, don't fail me now, Hey, so you don't normally

1511
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 4: get those opportunities. And so if we had to do

1512
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 4: that twice we had to bank on hitting again this draft,

1513
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 4: then we're not a very good team. So that tells

1514
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 4: you where we drafted that that that were sitting in

1515
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 4: a great spot. That's why I like us sitting at

1516
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 4: twenty nine. It tells you that we had a great season.

1517
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: But it also tells you that we didn't even have

1518
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 3: to go up and get more.

1519
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 4: Guys because we have enough. We have enough guys to

1520
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 4: go out there and be competitive. Now we just want

1521
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 4: to add to to those guys in this draft.

1522
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: Has some young talent, I mean, hater, does that make

1523
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: you feel better? Man? No? No, no.

1524
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 5: While we have too many needs on this team in

1525
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 5: too many positions to be able to draft best player available,

1526
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 5: everyone says that, but we just don't have the ability

1527
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 5: to do it. We're not good enough yet.

1528
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: So I've heard this before too, who like what like,

1529
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: what's the biggest need on the team.

1530
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: Everybody loved to say past Russia and wide receiver. Then

1531
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 2: they throw Coney in that. Let me tell y'all something,

1532
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: sick individuals, Huh, this is not the way things go.

1533
01:02:55,120 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: But the reason we can go best play available is

1534
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: because of what we did in trade scenarios. We needed

1535
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 2: another receiver to pair with Terry. We got that player

1536
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 2: in Deebo Samuels. We needed a left star warts left tackle,

1537
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: which these guys don't come free, all right. So the

1538
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: football guys gave us love for what we did for

1539
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers with Trent Wihibs, so they give

1540
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: us Larrymy Tomsel. So now we don't have to get

1541
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: these guys in the draft because if we just had

1542
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: to depend on a left tackle in this draft to

1543
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 2: come be Laramie Tompson, it wasn't happening, right. I don't

1544
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: think it's a Deebo Samuels in this draft either. So

1545
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: to get Jonathan Jones, to get wise, to get these

1546
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: guys that been there and done that, we just stacked

1547
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: the roster with depth that we can't find in a draft,

1548
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 2: depth that we can trust. This is what I get

1549
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: with free agents. That's what I get with trades. Guys,

1550
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: been there, done that depth with trust.

1551
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna drop the mic for him.

1552
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: But I don't need to tell you nothing.

1553
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: I mean, that's exactly right. I don't think. I think

1554
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: when you look at the roster, I don't see a

1555
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: spot where you like, I have to get this guy.

1556
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: Like sometimes you look at teams like they need a

1557
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: tight end, they need this, they need that. Like this

1558
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: is the thing I think fans of our time with.

1559
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: Did we sign the most exciting names in free agency? No? No,

1560
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: But did we sign guys that I've watched, that Fred's watched,

1561
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,439
Speaker 1: as Tantana's watch, that are above average football players? Yes,

1562
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: they're going to make this team better. Yes. Have they

1563
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: added depth? Yes? Do we want to get younger and

1564
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: more talented, Absolutely, But that's what the drafts for and

1565
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: that's where best player available comes in, right Yeah, Because

1566
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: like I don't need it. I don't need to draft

1567
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: an offensive line. I don't need to draft a defensive end.

1568
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: I don't need to draft a corner because of some

1569
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: of these additions. If we do riting depth and creating

1570
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: more talent, I think that's what that means.

1571
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 2: And also I want to encourage y'all don't always go

1572
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 2: for the new shiny toy. We still got guys like

1573
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 2: Taylor Owens on this team that want a job. We

1574
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 2: still get We got Hampton. People forget about Hampton. We

1575
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 2: got the Meptiste. He's coming into his Give these guys

1576
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 2: a chance to show you I got Bible.

1577
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: Also, Yeah, and so I think this is what every

1578
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: team goes So I think every fan base goes through

1579
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: a version of this. It's like, yeah, you want everyone

1580
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: wants Miles Garrett, Like you know, shoot, I want Miles Garrett.

1581
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: When you look around the landscape of the NFL, not

1582
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: every team is constructed that way.

1583
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: But also they want to sweat from the Eagles and

1584
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: pay him savent to media. So now you can reach

1585
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 2: free agency? Is reaching overpaying reaching? It's a contest.

1586
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, if we don't draft insert prospect here, then we

1587
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 5: lose the draft.

1588
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: We have to get this guy at all costs.

1589
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 5: He's a blue tripper and if you don't go after him,

1590
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 5: then what are we even doing?

1591
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: What pleay do we insert here. I hate this take

1592
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: when I see this on I's crazy I created because

1593
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: it shows me you haven't watched watch enough, right, Like

1594
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: because if you're like, who would you plant your flag

1595
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: for in this year's draft class, like that that you're saying,

1596
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: this player is guaranteed, guaranteed and definitively better.

1597
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: Know nobody outside the top team.

1598
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: Now he go.

1599
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: The thing they gonna say, everybody wants an edge. Everybody

1600
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 2: wants an edge. If I hit edge one more time,

1601
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: I'm about to lose it. Edge edge edge edge. Now

1602
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 2: the edge they'll say right now is if Mike Green

1603
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: slide to it, we got to get him, all right,

1604
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: If James P. Junior slides and we got to get

1605
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 2: I think because they so edge hungry, and these guys

1606
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 2: actually might be there when we pick it. I think

1607
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 2: those the two that the fan base would lose it

1608
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 2: over if we just say they're there and then we

1609
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 2: trade that.

1610
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again like it's I just look at like

1611
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: edge is a fine example. We can talk about them,

1612
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: like obviously there's Abdil Carter, who's a different tier, but

1613
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: then you get into like tier three, tier four, and

1614
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: it's marginal. Man, it's the difference between Landon Jackson and

1615
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: a Mecan Buca or Alanta Jackson, Smart Stewart, yeah, or

1616
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: Nick Gordon and you know the kid from Georgia, Michael Williams. Williams. Yeah,

1617
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: it's marginal, right, there's there's blemishes with all these guys.

1618
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: So when I hear fans make this you have to

1619
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: get this player, it's like you haven't watched enough film.

1620
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: It's really what it points down to me. It's like

1621
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: because you would know that this that's not how this works.

1622
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: That's not necessary in this year's draft. And and and

1623
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: of all the years I've covered the draft, this is

1624
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: the one year where it feels like this is it's

1625
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: the least true, right, it's the least true.

1626
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 2: And this is gonna say what you don't want to

1627
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 2: say is a draft specials. This is the most unsure

1628
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: year of draft speculation of all time. People are unsure

1629
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 2: about the quarterbacks top the bottom. They unsure about the

1630
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 2: wide receivers top the bottom. They unsure about the left

1631
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 2: tackles and right tackles top the bottom. The only positions

1632
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 2: that they say no, it's some gas in this draft

1633
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: is running back indeed tackle by the too draft I

1634
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 2: mean position, they're saying, oh, it's some dogs in here,

1635
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 2: even in that corner. They're saying at the top forty,

1636
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: you know, picks. But after that they feel like it's

1637
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 2: none there.

1638
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: With tight end too, everyone's like at the deep ten

1639
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: end class. I'm like, after you get after the top

1640
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: three four guys.

1641
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 4: Just just you guys talking about the fans and just

1642
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 4: that question when that question popped that when I first

1643
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 4: saw the run down, the first thing I popped in

1644
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 4: my mind.

1645
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 2: I had no player in mind.

1646
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,799
Speaker 4: I said, if you don't draft a fan pleaser, you drift,

1647
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 4: Because that's.

1648
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 2: What it's about.

1649
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: Now.

1650
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,799
Speaker 4: I watched the pill of the for Eagles boot Donovan

1651
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 4: McNabb off the stage.

1652
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he took them to four NFC championship.

1653
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, back to back to back them they're back to

1654
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 4: back to back. So it's to me, it's all about

1655
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 4: the fan pleasers. If the fans not pleased with the

1656
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 4: guys you and I watched.

1657
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 2: I watched the Jet fans cheer when they drafted Zach Will.

1658
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1659
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 4: So that's how I look at it. I'm not putting

1660
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 4: the player. It's all about pleasing the fans.

1661
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean dropped my to please the fans

1662
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: in April.

1663
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:08,480
Speaker 2: I want to please them in late decembl January, in February.

1664
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: No, I think that's one hundred percent right. So is

1665
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: uh hater?

1666
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 2: Do you do?

1667
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: You feel good about that? You feel better?

1668
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 5: I feel great, guys. I have a little draft anxiety

1669
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 5: just because we're getting up there and there's a lot

1670
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 5: going on and a lot rides on this because you're invested,

1671
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 5: right team, invested in the success. I want him to

1672
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 5: do well. I want every pick to hit. Of course

1673
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 5: that doesn't happen, but I wish it could.

1674
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: I just say hashtag fans, don't forget about last year's pick.

1675
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: We see we turned the paid so quick. Now we

1676
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 2: got some dude that's Marinate getting ready right now? Like

1677
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 2: they say Edge and I'm saying, Jean Baptiste. Did you

1678
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 2: see him getting into games last year?

1679
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: Now?

1680
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: So quick? Think about it?

1681
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: All right?

1682
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 2: My rookie year, we had an undrafted free agent? All right? Now,

1683
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 2: I know who I'm talking about. No, you don't, do

1684
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 2: you know what he's talking about? Your rookie year, Antonio Peers.

1685
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 2: I forgot about Peers was to die. He was in

1686
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 2: our club, Yes, Antonio Piers. If they was quick to

1687
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: turn the page in on Tonio, he don't become a

1688
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 2: Super Bowl winning champion at the Giants and playing here

1689
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: on two number one defenses, if you were just quick

1690
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 2: to turn the page to the next year's draft, all

1691
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 2: I'm saying is sometime we got some players that didn't

1692
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 2: show up their first year, didn't even probably get a chance. Yeah,

1693
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 2: that's gonna get a chance this year. Dominique Hampton, nobody's

1694
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 2: talking about him. I'm more hyped up about Tyler Owins

1695
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: than anybody. I think he's a legit staring safety in

1696
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 2: this league and if he get a chance, he can

1697
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 2: show people that. That's all I'm saying. Don't forget about

1698
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 2: the old people on the roster.

1699
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 1: But no, I think that's a great point. And obviously

1700
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: you can tell we're really excited about the draft this year.

1701
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: Can't wait to watch it. Make sure you tune into

1702
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: that live footage right we got we're on an hour

1703
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: before draft starts at seven. We're on at six on

1704
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 1: for the pick, and then make sure you get that

1705
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: notification button because we might have Adam Peters or Dan

1706
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: quent on to talk about the pick. Which would be

1707
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 1: extat which would be extremely exciting. And again you're not

1708
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: gonna get that kind of coverage anywhere else. So we're excited.

1709
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: We know you're excited. Please make sure you tune in

1710
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: for that content, and please make sure you like them.

1711
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 1: Subscribe to this show, to all the other Commander shows,

1712
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast, wherever you watch the show

1713
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Yeah, I really appreciate it. I think that's

1714
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: another one.

1715
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 2: We'll see you at the National highb on Saturday too,

1716
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 2: to really celebrate.

1717
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: We is going there, There we go, he said, So

1718
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: see you guys there