1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I am Gary 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Downing sitting here with Clifton Brown, who's filling it for 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Ryan Mank and we are excited today to be joined 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: by Ravens defensive back Pepe Williams. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: How you doing today? 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 3: Good? Good man? Everything as well? 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 2: Awesome. 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Well, we're excited to sit down and talk with you today. 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: And you've been a guy at the very beginning of 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: camp here that I think we've been watching closely because 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: this is a big camp for you. So how do 12 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: you feel like training camp has been going here for 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: the first few weeks. 14 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: Uh, Most importantly, I'm healthy. Yeah, you know that that 15 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: was the biggest goal for me. Just stay healthy, keep 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: my body right, you know what I mean, come especially 17 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: from last camp. You know, I came back at camp, 18 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: you know, had what I had, But this year healthy, 19 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: been working, feel stronger, faster, you know, and just pretty 20 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: much getting into him with the defense, learning different spots 21 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: so I can like get the whole picture. You put 22 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: all the pieces together on the puzzle, so I understand everything. 23 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: So I've been to myself on that and I know 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: some good days, some bad days, but all and all, 25 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 3: like growth, I've been growing. 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: The health thing is is probably the biggest, I guess 27 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: piece of your story so far, as like when you've 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: been on the field, you made plays, especially in practice. 29 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: We've seen that, you know, but then just staying healthy 30 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: is a challenge. How so last year you dealt with 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: the ankle injury and cost you. 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: Basically the whole season. 33 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess how how challenging was dealing with with 34 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 1: that last year? 35 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: Uh? Pretty much it was. It's like more mental than anything, 36 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You could do all the 37 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: treatment and all the all the recovering and getting stronger, 38 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: but like your mental has to be there. Like so 39 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: like my first surgery, basically I kind of rushed the 40 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: process in my head, like I was trying to move 41 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: too fast, trying to get back out there because I 42 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I didn't want to lose 43 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: my spot and things like that. So it was like 44 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: a reset, just humbling me and telling me just chop 45 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: wood and carry water, you know what I mean, So 46 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: just take it day by day to slow down, do 47 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: the stuff right, you know, right, recovery, right, sleep. So 48 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: after my second surgery, I kind of like I just 49 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: told myself I came to peace with like take my time, 50 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: get healthy and get back to me. So like all 51 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: and now it's it's I mean, it isn't easy, but 52 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: if you just chop wood and carry water and stay 53 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: with it, your body was just start back development to itself. 54 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: So that was the biggest thing with me. Like so 55 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: now it's like my mentor is just back back to 56 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 3: my first year. Like it's just being a dog and 57 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 3: like not let anything like weigh me down and things 58 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 3: like that. So I don't even be thinking about my 59 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: ankle anymore when I'm out there just running around, you 60 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: know what I mean, I just move around. 61 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 4: Make plays, Pepa, listen, do you talk right there? Kind 62 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 4: of remind me of Jelling Arbor Davis. Like you guys 63 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: came in together. He's another guy who's injuries have been 64 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 4: holding him back. Now he's having a good camp. You're 65 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: having a good camp. I'm just curious how much of 66 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: you guys bond then, How have you helped each other? 67 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: I got get through these tough couple of years. We 68 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: haven't been on the field as much as you want to. 69 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: Well, most definitely. I mean we we're pretty tight in 70 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: the dB room. We all kind of like bun and 71 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: and like give each other tips and things like that, 72 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: and with that process of just like coming in at 73 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: the same time, like going through some things together and 74 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: stuff like that. Uh, just back and forth, like you 75 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So it's like I talked to 76 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: five and basically he told me saying, it's more mental 77 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: than anything. When I first got my surgery, you know, 78 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: my first year, he ended up getting surgery like before 79 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: me or something like that, so he went through that 80 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: process before me and me just like going through it 81 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: and then having that reset again. I talk to him, 82 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: He's just like, bro, it's more mental to anything. Just 83 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: stay with it, you know what I mean. Stays to 84 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: just stay positive about the situation you feel me like, 85 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: don't don't get down on yourself. Like Five is. It's 86 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: like a a genuine person like he he understands a lot, 87 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like he might not talk 88 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: a lot to certain people, but in d room, we 89 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: all talk, so we all understand each other, we know 90 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: each other and things like that. So you definitely like 91 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: the whole room just like grasping around me, like making 92 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: sure I still feel like I'm a part or something. 93 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: So you know what I mean, when did you start 94 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: to feel like yourself again. 95 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: I'll say this off season. Okay, you know last year 96 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: I came back, I think it was the last game 97 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: of the season, got some gunterrupts and stuff. But I 98 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: wasn't really feeling it. I wasn't feeling myself still, you 99 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: know what I mean, like still dealing with the ankle. 100 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: Was just coming off. It's still kind of you know, 101 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: little things. But once I got once I was able 102 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: to go out in the off season and just like 103 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: getting to myself, getting my own thoughts and like feel 104 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 3: stuff through. It's like I got more comfortable with just 105 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: letting it go, like stop thinking about it. Stopped thinking 106 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: about it. Like I just came off my injury playing game, 107 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about my ankle, like is it gonna hold up, 108 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be all right, It's gonna start hurting like 109 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: things like that. So that was in my mind, like, 110 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 3: but once I got in the off season, it was 111 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: just a go just you know, you gotta get better, 112 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: so whatever happens, you know what I mean, Like just 113 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: work through it. The doctor told me, Ad told me 114 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: you're good, like it's strong. I'm just in my head 115 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: thinking like ah, what was that? What was that? So 116 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: it was more so like off season me being able 117 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: to train myself, like training around some of my peers 118 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: and stuff like that, and it's just like we're just working, 119 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 3: like it takes all the thinking out of it. 120 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: As a corner, I feel like maybe, I mean, this 121 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: is probably the case right every position, but like for 122 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: a corner, I feel like maybe this is even more 123 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: of the case. If you're thinking about it, like you can't. 124 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: Play at a high level. 125 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard Jimmy Smith talk about that 126 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: over the years and Marlin, if you have something that 127 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: you're thinking about now, you're gonna get burned because you're 128 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: focused on whatever the ailment is. 129 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 2: Like, is that how you Is that how you feel? 130 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? Facts, I mean, we play dB. It's the hardest 131 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: position on the field, you know what I mean. We 132 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: do everything backwards. We got to have the right anticipation 133 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: and right patience with things. So it's like if I'm 134 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: thinking about something and it's not gonna like it didn't 135 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: even happen, my mom, I'm already half a second late, 136 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: you know what i mean. So it's like it's like 137 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: watching film. You watch film, but you're gonna go out 138 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: in the game trying to Oh I've seen this on film. 139 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: You just naturally let your mind take you. Oh, I've 140 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 3: seen it. We trigger, you feel what I'm saying, Like, 141 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: it's always just react, react, react, you know what I mean. 142 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: No guessing, like just reaction. So that's pretty much where. 143 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 4: You've been here long enough to know this defense. Well, 144 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 4: like so many guys here, you're a versatile guy. Yeah, 145 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 4: you play a lot of positions. So if you were 146 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 4: Zach Orr and Okay, I'm gonna put Pepe in the 147 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 4: best place or the blessed. How can Pepe best help 148 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 4: the Ravens, what would you say? 149 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: Uh, most definitely, my energy is just gonna change everything. 150 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: But well, there's no doubt about that. We feel we 151 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: feel that when you walk into the realm. 152 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: More so more so, I've been training a lot and 153 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 3: since uh, you know, Mike was here, like getting in 154 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: tune with the Nickel aspect of like being in the 155 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: run game, playing the past, you know. Naturally, I was 156 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: a corner coming out of college, so I was always 157 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: used to playing on the outside and everything that comes 158 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: with that. Then when I got to lead, I had 159 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: to go in the slot, so I was playing more 160 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: pass than anything. So you know, I was lighting the 161 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: run and things like that. But once I like, I 162 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: took heed of that and wanted to get better. So 163 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: now it's like I feel like I'm more efficient in 164 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: the slot when it comes to the run, game, past game, 165 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: like all that, but all to now you could really 166 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: put me anywhere and I'm gonna produce. 167 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: Now you mentioned slot. Now, Arthur Molett, the coach, Roballs said, 168 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: you know, he's dealing. 169 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 5: With the knee thing. Don't know how long. You know, 170 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 5: he's gonna be. 171 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: Out with him the best obviously, But for all you 172 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: guys in the room, I know it's always next man 173 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 4: up mentality. But are you thinking, like, hey, well it's 174 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 4: good that I can do all these things because depending 175 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: on what happens, this might be an opportunity for me 176 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: to step in. 177 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: For sure. Always next man up, everybody stay ready. So 178 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: you know, we were praying for Art, you know, fast recovery, 179 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: healthy recovery. But it's like it's like pretty much the 180 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: train on stop. I mean, it's gonna keep going, so 181 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: we just gotta keep going, keep flowing with it. Next 182 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: man up for real, and like the next man up, 183 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: meaning like, you gotta be a pro. It's no next 184 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: man up and we're taking it. You gotta be a pro. 185 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: You gotta be able to fit in like it can't 186 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: be you can't miss a beat. So pretty much, I 187 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: feel like I'm ready for that. I'm been studying, been training, 188 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: like I'm ready to get plugged in and go to work. 189 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: If I if I say, if someone asks you, what's 190 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: your position, what are you telling the defensive back? DV 191 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: not nickel not corner safety DV can cover all of it. Yeah, 192 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: and it is that something that you like me? Is 193 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: that important to you to be a guy that can 194 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: can do all those different things. 195 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna hard be hard to get rid of me. 196 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: Once you can do a lot of things, it's hard 197 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 3: to get rid of somebody like that, you know what 198 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: I mean. Since college, my college coach used to be 199 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 3: on top of me about that. I played safe thing 200 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: nickel corner, you know what I mean. But corner was 201 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: my position. But he opened my mind up to just 202 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 3: do new things, try new things, put yourself in different 203 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: situations just to you know, just to see so like 204 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: I was big on like just doing whatever it takes 205 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: for help the team. Win. So in college, whatever I 206 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: need to do to help us win, that's what I did. 207 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: So moving to safety wasn't a problem. That was a problem. 208 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: I had a great coach that coached it and helped 209 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: me understand it quick fast, so I can be comfortable, 210 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: won't be back there panicking and stuff like that. So 211 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: like and that plays another part, like the way your 212 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: coach like gives you the information. And we have good 213 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: coaches that does that. So we all understand every position 214 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: like corner, niggle, safety, We all hear the same thing 215 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: in the same room. So it's like, how can I 216 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: know this? You know what I mean? Coach talking about it, 217 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: so I might as well understand that too. 218 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: So it's like, do you you feel like you know 219 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: the whole like you know the whole backfield from a 220 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: knowledge standpoint. 221 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to, right. 222 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no choice because when when when that 223 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: moment comes and coach like, well I need to hear 224 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: I gotta be ready. I can't be looking at them 225 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: like coach, I don't know, I'm ready. Coach, I got 226 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: you the all way telling them couch, I stay ready. 227 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 5: Now, this might be the deepest corner group in the league. 228 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 5: What you guys have and it. 229 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 4: Was already deep, and then like in April, they draft, 230 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: they draft TJ. What goes to your mind when when 231 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 4: you hear. 232 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: That, I mean, I wouldn't say nothing goes to my mind, 233 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: just nor we just got better, you know what I mean, 234 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: Like we just got better competition. Like without competition, I 235 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 3: wouldn't be nothing. So like I'll be mad if they 236 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: didn't bring somebody in to put some fire up under 237 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 3: me so I can compete some more, you know what 238 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: I mean. So it's like never get complacent, never get 239 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 3: too comfortable, you know what I mean. You always want 240 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: that competition. 241 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 242 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people don't understand that about 243 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 4: gods at your level, Like there's not you know. I 244 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: think people like they have a job, they hire somebody 245 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 4: about oh they're gonna be placed with you. Guys don't 246 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: seem to think that it's like the board the better, 247 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: Like it's like. 248 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: Good, now you know I got somebody behind me that's ready, 249 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: so let's keep going. 250 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: I always go back to like you're I remember when 251 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: you were drafted and talking with you other time, you 252 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: talked about being a kid playing street ball, and like 253 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: how that kind of formed you as a player, and 254 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: even just talking to you here, I hear you talking 255 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: about your instincts and how you're able to kind of 256 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: play free, like you seem like a guy whenever you've 257 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: been able to get on the field, like it hasn't 258 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: you haven't been scared. You haven't doesn't seem like you've 259 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: been intimidated by the moment. 260 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: You just always have struck me as a player that 261 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: plays with a lot. 262 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: Of instincts, Is that do you attribute that to the 263 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: way that, like you kind of grew up playing football. 264 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: Where does that come from? 265 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: Definitely when I was growing up, I was the little kid. 266 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: I was playing with the big kids. So it's like 267 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: it was never no fear. I always wanted to do 268 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: better than them, Like my cousins. I go play with 269 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: them and I make some players on them, Like I 270 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: feel like I'm unstoppable. I mean, like they all giants 271 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: looking over me and stuff. But you can't have no fear, 272 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, if you're scared, there's 273 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: no point of you've been out there, you know what 274 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, like like how Roe said we're going 275 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: to war. If you got somebody that's scared to go 276 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: to war. It's like he might not do his job 277 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: because he's scared. Now you know what I'm saying, he 278 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 3: might run away. We ain't need nobody to retreat. So 279 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: it's like you got to be fearless for sure. 280 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: And you've like, so you've heard all the trash talk. 281 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like people say you're too small, Like you've 282 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: heard that stuff. 283 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: That doesn't bother you, Nah, not at all, because you know, 284 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: it's like the little guys get it done. 285 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 5: That's all I know. 286 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: Little guys get it done because we overlooked, you know 287 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 3: what I mean, people always saying we can't do this, 288 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 3: can't do that. So it's like that little man syndrome, 289 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like we're gonna get it done. 290 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 4: Speaking of trash talk, I mean, these guys this room 291 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: highly competitive, the practice is in himself on the sidelines, 292 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 4: highly competed. So, hey, do you engage in trash talk? 293 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 4: And who are some of the best trash talkers in 294 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 4: the dB room? 295 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: If you say that, you don't engage the trash more. 296 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: So, I don't like I talked trash at practice, you know, 297 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: just to just to get the guys going. But like 298 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 3: in game situation, I don't really talk trash unless you say, 299 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 3: somebody pocket to me because I'm so locked in and 300 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 3: worry about giving the call Nikka left, Nickel right, things 301 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 3: like that, and just understanding my assignment, you know, things 302 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: like that. But if you get out your body and 303 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: start doing a little too much to me or one 304 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 3: of my teammates, now you're gonna hear Pepe. You know 305 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But who talks the most trash? Marcus 306 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 3: talks a lot of trash, Marcus, for sure, Marcus. I'm 307 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 3: gonna have to give it. Tomorroow. Marlow talks trash. He 308 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: talks trash. But when Marlow locked in, he's locked in 309 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: for sure. 310 00:13:59,360 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: YEA. 311 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 4: On the flip side too, the guys you cover for 312 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: day to day in practice, who is some of the 313 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: best trash talkers when you're locked up? 314 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: Nellie? Really, God neddy don't know how to be quiet. 315 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Nelly gonna talk track. He gonna he's 316 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: gonna cry by the he going to flag and then 317 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: he just he's gonna he gonna make sure he's saill whatever. 318 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: He's a real actor. 319 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have guessed. I would have made guess today. 320 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 5: But Nelly Nelly low get down load. 321 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, show, he's gonna talk, He's gonna be trying to 322 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: get a call that we didn't even do nothing. What's 323 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: you crying for? 324 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: Looks like true DV you never had He've never interfered 325 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: with the guy. 326 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, come on, bro, you just trying to 327 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: do stuff now for sure. 328 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: So one thing that also stands out to me about 329 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: you is like, so you step into the DV room 330 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: as a rookie, fourth round pick, and like there's some 331 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: big names in there. Humphrey, Marcus Peters was here when 332 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: you first got here and even still to this day 333 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: with Kyle and Marcus, Like it's a it's a really 334 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: talented room. And I've always felt that the dB room 335 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: has like the biggest personalities on the team. But like 336 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: you walked into that rooms as a mid round rookie 337 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: and like had no bones about being in the thick 338 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: of all the conversation. Like you were right in the 339 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: middle of it from the time that you arrived here. 340 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 341 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: Wow, Like what just being me? 342 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like people respect you more 343 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: when you just be you. You know what I'm saying. When 344 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: I came in the room. I've seen all the different personalities, 345 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I could just be me here, just 346 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: coming at being a raven. They let you be you, 347 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, That's what they want. They 348 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: don't want you to act like nobody else but you. 349 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: So it's like it's another like I don't have to 350 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: tiptoe around anything, like be me, be respectful, you know, 351 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: like respect everybody in the building, and just be you man, 352 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: have so fun. When it's time to lock in, lock in, 353 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: it's like we just show us in there. You know 354 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, you can't come in our room 355 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: and try to be nobody but yourself because we'll find 356 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: out if you being real with yourself, you know what 357 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: I mean. So like that's why I say we got 358 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: a great room, great people in there, different personalities, but 359 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: we all bun. 360 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: How do you then flip the switch from being like 361 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: when we do the media day and we disapprove of this, 362 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: we ask all the guys, who's a class clown? 363 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: Like your name came up a lot, right. 364 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: So you're people, You're funny, you joke, you bring the personality, 365 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: But then you do turn the switch, right, you do 366 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: you do turn that switch. 367 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: Now, how do you how? 368 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: And honestly, like the DB's probably dominated the question of 369 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: who would be the biggest class clown, you or Marcus 370 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: or Marlin, like, oh, probably got names in that. How 371 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: do you go about then getting serious when it's time 372 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: to lock in? 373 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: I mean, uh, I say, it's like I'm more like 374 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: I love when people laugh, Like I don't really like 375 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: bad vibes. You know, we all go through so much 376 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: in our life and stuff like that. When we get here, 377 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: I just be wanting to see laughs and things like that. 378 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: So it's like when it's trying to lock in, everybody 379 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: knows when it's trying to lock in, Like when it's personal, 380 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: like when it's go time, like game day, you might 381 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: not catch me doing too much laughing then go from 382 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: around because it's time to go to war. But like 383 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: throughout the week in practice, like even in practice, if 384 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: I'm out there on the play, you ain't gonna never 385 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: catch me out there goofing around unless you know what 386 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: I'm saying. The ball that's not we're just chilling something 387 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: like that. But it's like it's a time and place 388 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 3: for everything. You feel me, So it's like I know 389 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: that time and place. I know when it's time to 390 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: all right, let's get everybody going, you feel me, Then 391 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: I know when it's all right, let's lock in. We 392 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: really need to get this done. So it's like it's 393 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: like a good balance between the two. Yeah, I know 394 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 3: when it's time to joke around and get some laughs, 395 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: and I know when it's time to lock in. 396 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 4: Like you mentioned the Ravens letting you be you. That's 397 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 4: always been here with Coach Harball, It's kind of one 398 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 4: of his things. But I'm curious with either Coach Harball, 399 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 4: Coach Hewart coach or this year coming in, what are 400 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 4: some of the things they're telling you, Pappy. This is 401 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 4: what we want from you, this is this is what 402 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 4: we see for you. Just curious what they're saying to 403 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 4: you about trying to bring out your best. 404 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: I know Coach christ always tells me like keep doing 405 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: what I'm doing, keep being versatile. Like I always ask him, 406 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: like what he need me to do? What they need 407 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: me to help out today, Like because I know I 408 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: play Nickel two, but like if you need to go 409 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 3: to safety corner and things like that. You know, he 410 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: always tell us, like even the whole room, like we 411 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 3: all got to be able to play every position. So 412 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: it's like, as long as I keep doing that, and 413 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 3: like it's gonna it's gonna separate me. 414 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: How big of these so pre first preseason games coming 415 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: up on Friday? Like you you get excited about these 416 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: preseason games? 417 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: Are you fired up? 418 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: I fired up? Man, don't even lie. It's been like 419 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 3: a whole year since I played football for real, like defense, 420 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: like the whole nine, Like you know what I'm saying, 421 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 3: Like it's been like a whole year, like me just 422 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: missing it so much and just like fighting against that 423 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: urge to get out on that field man and go 424 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: fly around. So it's like Friday, it's time, It's gold time. 425 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 3: I'm just cutting loose. 426 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: It will be emotional at all. 427 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 3: Nah, It's never emotional. Like, got a lot of respect 428 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: for the game, you know what I mean? But this 429 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: is what I do. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I do. 430 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: And if we're looking at, uh, if we fast. 431 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: Forward, you know a few months here, and we're looking 432 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: at looking back on your season, like what do you 433 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: want the conversation to be about what you're able to 434 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: do this season? 435 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: Pretty much? Pepec came back ready, Pepe came back ready 436 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 3: to go, came back to help the team win like 437 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: things like that, like he came back ready, you know 438 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Like when guys come off injuries, everybody 439 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: expecting them like still be going through it or whatnott. 440 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 3: I don't let none of that hold me back. Once 441 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 3: I'm healthy. I'm healthy. Once I can go, I can go. 442 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 3: There's no excuses. I don't want to hear nothing else 443 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 3: about my ankle. I want to hear nothing else about 444 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: this that or you're coming off. That's that's over. That 445 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 3: was last year. It's a whole new year. It's a 446 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 3: whole new Pepe. Like I'm back to me, you know 447 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So for sure like this year, a 448 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: couple of months season, get ruling Pepe back. 449 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 4: It's not up to you. But would you like to 450 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 4: play a lot on Friday? I mean, do you want 451 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: to play a lot in the free season? 452 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: So yeah, I ain't played in the whole Yeah, I 453 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: want a god damn fly around. Yeah, fly around, make 454 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: some tackles, hit some people, catch some interceptions. You know 455 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Just do me just go get that 456 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 3: whole game? Feeling giving the call in those situations when 457 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: tempo and stuff like we got to give a call, 458 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: like make sure everybody on the right page, like things 459 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 3: like that, Like I take pride in that, like going 460 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 3: out in the game prepared and ready to asseecute. 461 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: Awesome. 462 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: Well, we can't wait to see you play. 463 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 5: Man. 464 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: I know he heard talking to guys, you know, because 465 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: you know free season. I understand it's not the regular season, 466 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: but like what I always say is that it matters 467 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: to a lot of the players, like talking to you, 468 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: like you can tell how much that game is going 469 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: to mean to you. 470 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: It's the tone, it says, the tone and pretty much 471 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 3: you know, just being a raven, like you gotta go 472 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 3: out there every snap and be a raven. You know 473 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like you just can't wait to be 474 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: a raven when the season start. So if coach tell 475 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 3: me to scrap up, I gotta play, I'm finna go 476 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: rave it awesome. 477 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: Well, we can't wait to see that. We appreciate your time. 478 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much and good luck this year. 479 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. 480 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: Awesome you're listening to Lounge podcast when we're coming to 481 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: you from the Sea Geeks Studio. Also, we want to 482 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: give a shout out to our friends at Draft King Sportsbook. 483 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: They are an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore 484 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: Ravens Draft Kings sportsbook. The Crown is yours, So I 485 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: enjoined the conversation with Pepbe likes as we said, I mean, 486 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: the guy brings so much energy. He's fun, he's charismatic. 487 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: I think easy got a root. 488 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 4: For absolutely, I mean, lovable personality. Hasn't had a chance 489 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 4: to play as much as he wants because of the injury, 490 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 4: and now that he's healthy, great to hear him say 491 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 4: how good he feels, because when he's played, he's played well. 492 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 5: So he's really looking forward to the. 493 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 4: Preseason showing that he's back, Like he said that the 494 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 4: injuries are behind him, and yeah, if he can do that, 495 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 4: you never know how these seasons are gonna play out. 496 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: He could end up being a huge part of the secondary. 497 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 4: Even though he's not a god that you know, the 498 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 4: first person people name when they talk about the Rayland secondary, 499 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 4: he could be a key piece. 500 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Him. 501 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: Him and Jalen Armor Davis came into this offseason in 502 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: training camp in a pretty similar situation and talented player's 503 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: fourth round picks going into the third year. Who can 504 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: be really good while they're on the field, but they've 505 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: dealt with injuries and I think, honestly, I think both 506 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: of them have have risen to the occasion. They've been 507 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: on the field every single day, They've played well, They've 508 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: gotten their hands on the football at times. I think 509 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: that they have kind of done exactly what you want 510 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: from from both of them. 511 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: And I know you. 512 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: Asked Pepe about it in the conversation, and he has 513 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 1: an opportunity now with Arthur Mallett dealing with a knee injury. 514 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: You know, reports are he can miss time in the 515 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: regular season, and if that's the case, then you know 516 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: Pepe could have a chance there. And even before the 517 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: injury is Arthur Mlett, I think that you know, Pepe 518 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: is a guy that he's gonna he's gonna do everything 519 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: you can to try to play his way onto the field. 520 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: And even as a rookie, he stepped into some moments 521 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: his rookie season. You know that you wouldn't necessarily expect 522 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: for an undersized corn who's a fourth round rookie. And 523 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't think he's, as I said to him, like, 524 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he's intimidated or scared of big stages 525 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: or moments, And I like the way that he plays 526 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: the game, the instincts that he brings, the mindset that 527 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: he brings, I like all of it with him. 528 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah right, it's never too big for him. And now 529 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: he's been there a couple of years, he really knows 530 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 4: the system well and he can play fast, So unlike 531 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: his rookie season where he did well, but yeah, it 532 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 4: was all new to him, it's not anymore. And I 533 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 4: think that gives him an edge maybe over some of 534 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 4: the younger players who are talented as well, but don't 535 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: have his experience in this system. And you mentioned his versatility. 536 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 4: Wherever the Ravens may need him in his secondary, he 537 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 4: can play. He literally played every position in the secondary 538 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 4: at college. 539 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 5: So when he came to a. 540 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 4: Team like this that likes doing the positionless defense thing, 541 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: it really fit his style. And if he's healthy again, 542 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 4: the more you can do, the more chance you'll have 543 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 4: to get on the field. 544 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 545 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: So the game coming up on Friday, seven thirty pm 546 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: against the Eagles. If you want tickets for that, you 547 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: can get those on SIKI or Baltimore Ravens dot com. 548 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: Just a couple of notes about the stuff around the 549 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: game before we talk dive into some of the elements 550 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: of the game itself. We have announced the new upgrades 551 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: and unveiled some of these new upgrades at Mt. 552 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 2: Bay Stadium, So. 553 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: It's gonna look a little different and it'll be exciting 554 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: for fans to walk into that for the first time 555 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: on Friday after all the work we put in this offseason. 556 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: The Millerite Gatehouse is something that's really cool, as well 557 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: as the roof deck above that, so you'll be able 558 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: to check that out during the game. It should be 559 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: pretty awesome for fans to see. And we also have 560 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: some new premium spaces, the Black Wings Suites and as 561 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: well as club level or field level seats as well, so. 562 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: Updated club level. 563 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: So a lot of cool stuff that's going on at 564 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: the stadium that we're excited to unveil starting this week 565 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: with the preseason game again coming up on Friday against 566 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: the Eagles. As we get into that game, like what 567 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: is it in your mind? In addition to that, we 568 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: talked about Pepe, but like, what is the thing that 569 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 1: you are most excited to watch and see how it 570 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: plays out? 571 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 4: Well, we've been talking about the offensive line for months 572 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 4: and right it's time to play games against somebody else. 573 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 4: And yeah, you know with Tayland line Broun wasn't gonna 574 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 4: play anyway, but with him being out, now you've got 575 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 4: you know, people gonna take snaps at center, uh, the 576 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: right side, left guard Vhoere he seems to be the favorite, 577 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 4: but he hasn't played a game, you know, and over 578 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: a year. So what happens on the offensive line I 579 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 4: think is at the top of my list to see 580 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: who plays well, where guys play, and that may factor 581 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 4: into decisions going forward. And then also, you know, you 582 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: got places like the wide receivers. After you know, the 583 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 4: top three or four guys, there's a lot of talented 584 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 4: guys competing for roster spots roles at wide receiver. So 585 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 4: those are two things I'm interested in. The Ravens defense 586 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 4: is so deep and they're going to keep it, you know, 587 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 4: quote unquote vanilla in the preseason games, that's not to me. 588 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: There's always you know, you want to see how guys 589 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 4: are playing, but really that offensive line getting snaps, live 590 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 4: snaps in bads against another team, against other guys who 591 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 4: are trying to prove themselves. I think that's gonna be 592 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: a really big barometer as to where guys stand on 593 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 4: that offensive line. 594 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the offensive line for me, 595 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: I agree, is number one. I am also interested to 596 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: see the secondary Pepe Jalen Nate Wiggins first round pick, 597 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: there's a chance to see him, I'm guessing, so I'm 598 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: curious to see that. The other position that I'll you know, 599 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit curious about. You know, there's not 600 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: too much buzz about this position. But like running backs, 601 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: so Keaton Mitchell last year came on the scene in 602 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: training camp and then he won a spot based on 603 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: how he looked in the preseason. Running Backs get a 604 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities in the preseason because, especially in the 605 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: second half of these games, you're handing the ball off 606 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: a lot, so you're gonna give these running backs opportunities. 607 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: So obviously it's Derek Henry and Justice Hill as your 608 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: top two running backs, but you have a competition there 609 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: for the third spot is keeping Mitchell is coming back 610 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: from this injury, so rashein ali fifth round rookie could 611 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: be that. Guy owen Wright is another player in camp 612 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: who's look good at times. Does anybody stand out in 613 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: that competition that is for that third running back spot 614 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: who could end up playing, you know, a role early 615 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: in the season how much we'll see, but a role certainly. 616 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 5: No question. 617 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 4: I mean with running backs, to me, I want to 618 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 4: see if they can break tackles, make guys miss, If 619 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 4: they have an opportunity to catch the ball, will they 620 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 4: do it? And yeah, I mean and vision are they 621 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 4: finding the holes? If they're there and hitting them quickly, 622 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 4: We'll be able to see those things more in game 623 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 4: situation than we will at practice. So yeah, those two 624 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 4: guys you mentioned, there is an opportunity, particularly as you said, 625 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 4: until Keaton comes back, for them to do something. And 626 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: you never know because again last preseason, who was talking 627 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 4: about Keaton Mitchell being one of the big playmakers on offense. 628 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 4: But when he got in there and got his opportunity 629 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 4: he made he was a huge difference for the Raivens offense, 630 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 4: Dene right until you know he got hurt, he became 631 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 4: one of the biggest weapons. And that to me, there's 632 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 4: game speed and practice speed sometimes is different. Keith Mitchell 633 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 4: definitely when he got on the field against other teams, 634 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 4: his speed just jumped. 635 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 5: Out like this guy, they can't catch him. 636 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 4: So if we can see some of that type of 637 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 4: jews from anybody, whether it be a wide receiver or 638 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 4: running back, that's immediately going to be filed away by 639 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 4: the coaching staff as someone who may be able to 640 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 4: help him this year. 641 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 642 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: Well, it's going to be fun again Friday, seven thirty 643 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: pm m Andcy Banks Stadium. After the game, Cliff and 644 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: I are going to do a recap podcast, So we're 645 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: talking about the stuff going into the game, but after 646 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: that game, we're going to break it all down for 647 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: you and you'll be able to listen to that in 648 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: the Lounge podcast feed. Hit that subscribe button if you 649 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: haven't done so already. Also, if you want all of 650 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: our press conferences, check out the Ravens press Pass podcast feed. 651 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: All of the pressers lived there and their entirety. 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