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Speaker 1: to know up close and personal, Savann Rebel Cowboys cornerback.

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Speaker 1: So happy to see you in uniform. Finally, I know,

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Speaker 2: Appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Uh So, okay, how how happy

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Speaker 2: It was very hard to explain. I took it. I

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Speaker 2: So just like keeping that, keeping that in my head

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Speaker 3: One thing that the coaches that's that that you're not

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Speaker 2: I mean, just just just taking this step by step,

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Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta approach each day intentionally like you

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Speaker 1: Uh did you have any in in the rehab prussure?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Raiders, you know what I did. They

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Speaker 2: You can approach the game like you've been approaching it.

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Speaker 2: Coach Jules helped me fix the talking to me about

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Speaker 1: They babied you last night, right, I mean they did.

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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't more about my body. I didn't want

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Speaker 2: I gotta go out there and be a dog, you know,

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Speaker 1: So your body felt fine, yes, and was your mind

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Speaker 1: What was it nineteen seventeen? Uh was your mind telling you? Okay,

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Speaker 3: This is your first time on the field. You got

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Speaker 2: It was crazy because really, me and Kayln Crosson was close.

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Speaker 2: We got close. We talked every day and that's what

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Speaker 2: Boy was making making like making like errors, you know,

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Speaker 3: And did you go back and take a look at

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Speaker 3: you know, obviously your tape. What what stood out to you?

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Speaker 3: The way that you played in your in your amount

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Speaker 2: I felt like I played good.

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Speaker 2: Well, of course there's little details I gotta fix, you know,

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Speaker 2: what I mean. He telling me to go to safety.

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Speaker 2: I can't go into next week acting like, Okay, I

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Speaker 2: don't know the plays. Okay, let me study the plays.

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Speaker 2: Let me get right to it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And welcome back to Sidecars Social of the Star District

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Speaker 1: Sham with Nicole Hutchinson our special guest Cowboys rookie cornerbacks

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Speaker 1: who are on Rebeled made his debut last night, professional

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Speaker 1: No, I mean I big got that. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he came on the stairs, get into the room.

441
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Speaker 2: He was like, sign, you ain't got to go nowhere,

442
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I don't know where

443
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Speaker 2: I would have been if I didn't say, no, pops,

444
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: let's go, Like, let's go, I gotta do this. So

445
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: we got there a little three hour drive. Got there.

446
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 2: It's kind of like to come bine you run the

447
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 2: forty broad jump, vertical, all them things, but we didn't

448
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Speaker 2: one of the ones at the end, and what impressed

449
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Speaker 2: them the most was my length, of my speed and

450
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Speaker 2: my my home e supposiveness. So you know, coach, one

451
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: of the coaches pulled me to the side, gave me

452
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Speaker 2: a little yellow band, you know what I mean. I said,

453
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Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator, the defense coordinator want to talk to you,

454
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Speaker 2: Blake Harrow, he's Carolina head coach and East Carolina right now,

455
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: and he was like the head now, he said, the

456
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Speaker 2: head coach want to talk to you. I'm like, oh, man,

457
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: add them nerves. You know, we had the butterflies in

458
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: my stomach. I had the motherlizer in my stomach. So

459
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Speaker 2: and I'm talking to the head coach, Mike Houston at

460
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Speaker 2: that time. He was like, son, you gotta we're gonna

461
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Speaker 2: offer you. They gave me an offer at a two

462
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Speaker 2: point oh at that time. You know, most schools ain't

463
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Speaker 2: offering nobody, No, no D one schools off nobody at

464
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Speaker 2: two point oh, you know what I mean. And he

465
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Speaker 2: gave me an assignment. And he was like, son, we're

466
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Speaker 2: gonna offer you, and we give you a mission. You

467
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Speaker 2: go back to school, get a two point five higher.

468
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? You hear? And I was

469
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Speaker 2: like Okay, I'm thinking to myself, I'm like a two

470
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Speaker 2: point five. Now, I'm gonna retired in that. And that's

471
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Speaker 2: how I approached every day, you know what I mean.

472
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Speaker 2: I stay focused in my school work. I stayed working out,

473
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Speaker 2: stay had a routine, you know what I mean. It's

474
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Speaker 2: no different from everybody else's. You know. I still eat breakfast,

475
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Speaker 2: I wake up, you know, but I stay in that

476
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: weight room, that track the field, just work on my

477
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 2: technique and everything got to use that I'm using the game.

478
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Speaker 1: And so you're shooting for the two point five? What'd

479
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Speaker 1: you get?

480
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Speaker 2: A two point five? I gotta I think a two

481
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Speaker 2: point eight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what That's what I So that's when you talked,

483
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Speaker 1: when you told me that, your dad said, son, you

484
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Speaker 1: don't Yeah, your dad was hurting seeing what you were

485
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Speaker 1: doing yourself. I'm speaking to you as a dad now,

486
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: and I know that when you said no pops were going,

487
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: that just filled his heart. And when you made a

488
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Speaker 1: two point eight, that filled it up some more and

489
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Speaker 1: gave you increased confidence in yourself. I bet and did

490
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Speaker 1: that transfer to football also?

491
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Speaker 2: I always had that that drive for football though, you

492
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: know what I mean, And I took them grades as

493
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Speaker 2: not I wouldn't say a lesson, but as an assignment. Dad, Okay,

494
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Speaker 2: if I can make like if I can make a C,

495
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 2: I can make it be. If I can make a B,

496
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: I can make a you know what I mean. And

497
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: that's how I approached every day. And and I know

498
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Speaker 2: I love the game of football, you know what I mean.

499
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Speaker 2: I can't blame nobody, nobody else but myself, you know

500
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Speaker 2: what I mean. So I approached each day like that

501
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Speaker 2: to keep going and just just talk to myself like, Okay,

502
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Speaker 2: my mom and my dad, you know my family, they

503
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: supported me, They right behind me. So I have no

504
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Speaker 2: reason to back down now. So I approach each day

505
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Speaker 2: with the attempt to get better and better every day.

506
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Speaker 3: Where at the drive from football, the love for football

507
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Speaker 3: even come from.

508
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Speaker 2: I mean playing football since I was four years old,

509
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Speaker 2: and I did not miss a year. I promise you

510
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Speaker 2: my dad could be all the way in California. You

511
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Speaker 2: know we missed miss practice. I don't know how what

512
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: we do, but yeah, I ain't missed a year of football.

513
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Speaker 2: You know. I got injured a lot though, and like

514
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 2: I went through a lot of adversity, and that really

515
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Speaker 2: taught me, like throughout life, you can get a lot

516
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Speaker 2: of adversity. That made me think like, Okay, it's not

517
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: the end of everything, because each injury it wasn't an end.

518
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: It was all temporary. And I got back on that

519
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Speaker 2: field and just trusting in the process and trusting in

520
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Speaker 2: that path. But thank God that gave me and my

521
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Speaker 2: family and supporting us to get through everything.

522
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Speaker 3: And you get to East Carolina first year, twenty twenty one,

523
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Speaker 3: you get injured. Twenty two, you get injured.

524
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I broke my hand.

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Speaker 3: How are you dealing with all that?

526
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Speaker 2: First off, I was dealing with the plays because it

527
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: was a lot different from you know, Juko, you know

528
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Speaker 2: what I mean, really the details to the plays because

529
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Speaker 2: at that time, I didn't know a lot about football fundamentals.

530
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Speaker 2: You know, I knew, I knew the basics, but you know,

531
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Speaker 2: but they taught beyond that level, and that's what really

532
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: helped me a lot. And just being there, you know,

533
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: it was it was it was fast, very fast for me,

534
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Speaker 2: you know, And when I broke my hand, it kind

535
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: of slowed me down even more because now I'm not practicing.

536
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 2: It's more like mental reps, so me trying to see

537
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: it on the screen is not me seeing it on

538
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Speaker 2: the field, So I ain't let it stress me out.

539
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: You know, I got surgery, did what I did. They

540
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: let me play with the club, you know what I mean,

541
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Speaker 2: And like you know, I mean, if I can play,

542
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out there and play on the field.

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Speaker 2: I don't care. You give me a club, a cask

544
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Speaker 2: and get out there and run for y'all?

545
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Speaker 1: Are you still playing corner?

546
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: I was still playing corner, but twenty twenty two I

547
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: was mostly special teams.

548
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Speaker 1: Okay, because we get to like you said, put a

549
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: wrap on a club, all right, so you're not going

550
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: to intercept with that hand. You just you are long.

551
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: You usually the other hand to do what I can do. Yeah, right,

552
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: So when did you start to get the fit?

553
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: Well?

554
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: How old were you when you first thought about playing

555
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 1: in the NFL six six? Okay, by the way, at

556
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: four years old? What are we doing playing football?

557
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: Four years old?

558
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: We are we just running around? I know what little

559
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: soccer players are doing when they're four years old. They're

560
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: picking flowers.

561
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what I was going.

562
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: I probably don't know where I was running with the

563
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: ball at that time. I don't know. I just know

564
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 2: I was playing football, Okay, I know I was running

565
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Speaker 2: blue when I breaking the shirt, and that's it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're probably one of the best athletes on

567
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Speaker 1: these teams, these youth teams, right. So you what were

568
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: your quarterback? Running back?

569
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Speaker 2: I played at that time?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?

571
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: Growing up I was really bad running back running.

572
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Speaker 1: Back in quarterback, yeah yeah. And did you think as

573
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Speaker 1: you started to get older in school, did you think

574
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Speaker 1: that's what you would be?

575
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Speaker 2: Yes?

576
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: And when did that change?

577
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Speaker 2: I say, I say after my senior midget. Senior midget.

578
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Speaker 2: How that's I think. I don't know the exact age,

579
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Speaker 2: not really, but it's before before you hit the high school,

580
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 2: you know. Okay, So about not about eighth grade, about kay,

581
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: like fourteen fourteen. So because my dad was very intentional

582
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: about this and like he didn't care about nothing. He

583
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: was gonna make us play football, you know what I mean.

584
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: He got us on that field and he put in

585
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Speaker 2: that work, you know what I mean? And I was like, Okay,

586
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: and I don't know how much he loved football because

587
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: that's all that's all we watched. That's all we played

588
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: n C double A, Madden, that's all we watched you

589
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean. He had one time he had me,

590
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: my little brother, Schamar, my older brother here, you're older

591
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: than me, Shahim Okay circled around him and it was

592
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: a picture of us looking at one screen and watching football.

593
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: It's probably Dion Samers. I don't know. I don't know

594
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: he was. He was upsessed with He always loved me, me

595
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: in the cornerback.

596
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Speaker 3: But yeah, sounds like Pops was, you know, along for

597
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: the ride, for the long haul. Obviously talk about what

598
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: that meant for you, you know, obviously battling injuries. I

599
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: know in high school you also battled injuries, got into

600
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Speaker 3: a car accident as well, and even you just mentioned

601
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Speaker 3: you broke your hand. What is your father meant to

602
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: you throughout your entire journey?

603
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Speaker 2: You know, he always he always taught us to like, no,

604
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: go out approach each day like the world is against you.

605
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: Not saying that you have to know everybody. You know

606
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: everybody is against you, but just approach that day as

607
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: we're saying, like, be confident in what you're doing, speak up,

608
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: be kind, be nice, but whatever you're doing, be intentional

609
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 2: with it, but make good choices. Because we learned from

610
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: him he told us all his bad choices, but he

611
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: telling us that to learn from him, you know what

612
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Speaker 2: I mean. And he told you all those bad choices secret.

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Speaker 1: He told you enough of him to get you.

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Speaker 2: Told enough, you know what I mean. Yeah, And he always.

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Speaker 1: Again, I'm a dad, I understand what you're No effort,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: What I mean. That's all we had to show him

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Speaker 2: like he was. He was all about effort. All right, We're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna get you uh to East Carolina here in just

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Speaker 1: a minute. Okay, well, we gonna need to take one

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Speaker 1: we are setting up Savan's life, so you have an

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Speaker 1: understanding of who you're cheering for. By the way, number

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Speaker 1: thirty four is that good with you? You find? Did

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Speaker 1: you ask for it?

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Speaker 2: Or you don't matter? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Why do I think you wanted you'd rather wear

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Speaker 1: twenty one?

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Speaker 2: Why do you think that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, that's yeah, there you go. Yeah, but Carson's

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Speaker 1: got that right yeah yeah, okay, all right. So we're

647
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Speaker 1: in high school and and now you're a cornerback or

648
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: have you been moved to corner yet or.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. For some reason, my dad wanted me

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Speaker 2: to play.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback quarterback for some reason, for some reason, I didn't

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Speaker 1: even imagine what version that might be.

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Speaker 2: I play a quarterback that season. Of course, I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Now what offense you're running a beer you're running I mean,

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00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: it's maybe that's why you're not a quarterback, but it

656
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: has to be something that puts your athleticism. You're not

657
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: a drop back passer. You're an athlete. You got to

658
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: use those legs that speak.

659
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: And it's crazy. I played cornerback my whole life up

660
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: to high school. My freshman year, my sophomore year, my

661
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: sophomo year. I transitioned my half the season two, so

662
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: I played to play corner that quarterback one for me,

663
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna see you.

664
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: What did you like about the cornerback position?

665
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: The corner you know it was it was you know,

666
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: I like challenging myself, and that's one of the biggest

667
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: challenges on the field, is cornerback going against the fastest,

668
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: the best Robbis he was on the team. So I

669
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: don't think any challenge can be bigger, bigger than that.

670
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: So when you're looking at Philadelphia's receivers coming in here Sunday,

671
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: that's that's fine with you. You're looking forward to something of that.

672
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: Definitely what.

673
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: Okay, they're gonna watch tape of you most of these teams.

674
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: You know, you're a third round pick here, and we'll

675
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: get to that part of it also, but they they

676
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: know all but if you're telling if you if you

677
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: are suddenly on a zoom with DeVante Smith and A. J.

678
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: Brown and they're wide receivers and they there's a moderator

679
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: on the call, and he says, von, these guys don't

680
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: know you Tell them what you bring, tell them what

681
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: they're in for when they're trying to beat you on

682
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: Sunday and you're gonna say.

683
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: Hey, I look for a monster h Downhill, I'm coming

684
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: for you.

685
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: That's how I came for real pressman corner.

686
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to stay.

687
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: Okay, you don't want to tell them too much, all right,

688
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: let's go.

689
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: Let's get you simple, simple, very good.

690
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: All right. So, uh, now you're a corner. And so

691
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: by the by the time you go from junior college

692
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: to East Carolina, you're a corner. How did the East

693
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: Carolina experience sit with you? Did you wish by that

694
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: point that you were at a bigger school? Were you

695
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: happy to be at East Carolina? Uh?

696
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was happy to be there.

697
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: I mean happy to be a pirate.

698
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean they gave my first opportunity, you know,

699
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: and they trusted in the process. So and I stayed

700
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: loyal to them, they they stayed loyal to me. So

701
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: it was it was very, very very What.

702
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: Did you get better at in football terms in the

703
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: time you spent it East Carolina?

704
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: A lot, A lot of details, you know what I mean, Alignments, dividers,

705
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 2: all them things that all that was new to me,

706
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And because I was I

707
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 2: played pressman almost my whole life, so all I knew

708
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 2: was pressman, you know what I mean. And my dad

709
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: kind of he helped, you know what I mean. But

710
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: watching other players can do, but so much when you're

711
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: not on the field. Because I watched Deon Sanders a lot,

712
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: I watched a lot of other dbs a lot, and

713
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: it wasn't really it was really that hard for me.

714
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: But it was just for me to lock in on

715
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: the details, that's the only thing, A little details.

716
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: What was some of the biggest challenges for you and

717
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 3: learning kind of the basics of football, because I remember

718
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: you saying, you know that you knew football, but not

719
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 3: like the fundamentals and things like that until you got

720
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 3: to East Carolina. So what was kind of the biggest

721
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 3: challenge for you, If you had any challenges at all?

722
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: Definitely that part, the details because it was new to me.

723
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: And then of course it was faster and the plays

724
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: that they were calling, they got to get used to

725
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: the urbages and hands signals because we didn't do a

726
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: lot of that as you go. I mean, we called

727
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: our plays, we did what we did, but I played

728
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: a lot of press man, it wasn't a lot of that. So,

729
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: and I had had coaches that was there for me.

730
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: Coach Steve Ellis, he was there for me, and he

731
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: was more about developing me for the for the D

732
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 2: one level, you know what I mean that that's what

733
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: that year was. Twenty twenty two. Twenty twenty two was

734
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: a development year. Twenty twenty three came around. Coach Jewles

735
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: came in Oklahoma State right now, cornerback Olahoma State right now.

736
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: He came in. He really broke it down to me,

737
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: and that's what really helped me with my game. He

738
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: broke down every every detail, every step like and they

739
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: helped me a lot.

740
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. So last year twenty four that's when

741
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: you heard your kname and how do you stay on

742
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: top of You're just you're just developing a mastery of

743
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: the fine points it's because it's not just great athlete

744
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: against great athlete anymore. Now you gotta play technique and

745
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: nuances of different coverages. Did that slow you down any

746
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: not being on the field after that injury?

747
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: Nah, that slowed me down.

748
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: About why do you think?

749
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 5: You know?

750
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: I feel like it gave me that. I'll add the

751
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: intent to to like I ain't really think too much

752
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: of me. I ain't want to overthink, you know what

753
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: I mean? And when I did touch the field, I

754
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: told you this ain't nothing new to me. Now I've

755
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: been playing football my whole life. This is nothing new

756
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: to me.

757
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: So same thing as four years old.

758
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 2: Same years and four years old, seven thirteen, twelve eighteen.

759
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: It don't matter. I feel like football is the same.

760
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 2: And I feel like if I approached the day I

761
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: approached the game, you know what I mean, and intend

762
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: to do my best. You know I mean, I overthink

763
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: about Okay, don't make no mistakes. You don't want to

764
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: think that approaching the game. You want to just play clear,

765
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: play football, play free.

766
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: You had the chance to actually leave East Carolina, and

767
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: obviously you know, I know they were your only offer,

768
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 3: But aside from that, what made you feel that or

769
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 3: believe that they could get you ready for the NFL level.

770
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: I stayed, you know, I said they was loyal to me,

771
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: and no that n I L came out. You know,

772
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: I'm not want to. Yeah, I play like I love

773
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: the game of football.

774
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 5: You know.

775
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: Of course, a lot of them big schools. I don't

776
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: want to stay, none of the schools, but a lot

777
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: of the big schools offered me a lot of money.

778
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: And it was like I started thinking about my mom,

779
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: my dad, you know, then working their way up, you

780
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean. They never had the silver spoon,

781
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: nothing fair to them. So I was just I was like, okay,

782
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: I can I can prove the people that I can

783
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: make it from from this school, from what they so

784
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 2: called a small school. And I approach you each day

785
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 2: like I want it, like I want to get better.

786
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: And I stayed there because in I l money. You know,

787
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 2: it's cool the money come with football, you know. I mean,

788
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 2: I wanted to prove to the coaches and proved to

789
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: them that I love the game of football.

790
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: So had you not been injured, mm hmm, would you

791
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: been a higher than a third round pick?

792
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 5: Oh?

793
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: Definitely?

794
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: How much here?

795
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: I definitely say the first round.

796
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: And I'm guessing you must have had people telling.

797
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: You that I've seen a lot. I know I've seen

798
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: a lot, and I know that it really really no

799
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: rounds really matter to me, right, you know what I mean?

800
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: And I just know I just how approached my practice,

801
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: how approached my game day, how approached everyday film the field?

802
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. They seen the effort, They

803
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: seen me pursuit in to that ball, they see me

804
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: jumping that pile, you know what I mean. So like

805
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: just staying in tune with that. You know, I really

806
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: wanted to listening to the noise. You know, I got

807
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: a dash he's gonna tell me, you know, So I

808
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: was listening to that. Of course it got to me

809
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: a little bit, but I ain't let it distract me

810
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: to the noise.

811
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: Did you have a favorite pro team as a kid

812
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, Because.

813
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: I think we were watching one of the highlights from

814
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. I played the Cowboys and my favorite color

815
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: was red. It's it's a crazy it's it's a crazy reason.

816
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: I don't want to tell people that my favorite color

817
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: was red. Yeah, Like, oh, I like the forty nine ers.

818
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: Like the forty nine ers, So my dad used to

819
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: give me forty nine of jerseys and everything, so I'm

820
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: like that was my team.

821
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: Okay, how did you feel when Dallas picked you?

822
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 4: Oh?

823
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 2: I was excited.

824
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: Suddenly it's blue, now you're now.

825
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: I was excited just because based off the you know,

826
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: I came home and visit here and like how the

827
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: coaches approached me and I felt the atmosphere. It was like, Okay,

828
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: I already feel like I'm here, Maro, I feel like

829
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm at home, you know. I mean how the coaches

830
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: broke down the place, you know, how they do this

831
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 2: and that, but just just making it feel like home.

832
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, oh yeah, I wouldn't mind

833
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: being here. I'll be in Texas.

834
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, here you are, and we're very happy about it.

835
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: Savan Revel, the Cowboys cornerback, made his debut last night.

836
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: There's so much. The whole thing is you have to come.

837
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: The whole show is you have to come, and we'll

838
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: be back with more when we return. On the middle

839
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: of Like Cowboys Out.

840
00:45:01,400 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 5: No Cowboys, No Cowboys hm hm hm hm.

841
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 6: To the Miller, Like Cowboys Hour, supported by Albertson's Welcome Back.

842
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: It's victory Monday Tuesday still is? Come on, it still is?

843
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: Did you see the game? Did you hear the game

844
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: last night? For crying out loud, I'm Brad Sham with

845
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: Nicole Hutchinson and Savann Revel the Cowboys cornerback. Hey, how

846
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: many different ways before people get to know you? Do

847
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: you hear your name pronounced first and last? Yeah? I

848
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: mean you. You must have heard a whole bunch of

849
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: things that are not the way you of.

850
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: Course, of course. Yeah.

851
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: And then did you hear you hear Revel Revel? Yeah,

852
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: Shave and Revel? Yeah? Okay, well that's Shaven rebels our guest. Uh,

853
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: let me not forget to remind you that we will

854
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: have no show next Monday. It's Thanksgiving week. I'm not

855
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: sure how it got to be Thanksgiving already, but here

856
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: we are, and we just don't like to ask the

857
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: players to try to do that on a short week.

858
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: So we won't have a show next week, and then

859
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: we will be back on Mondays Mondays for the rest

860
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: of the time throughout the month of December, so including

861
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: even though this should be the same logic, the Monday

862
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 1: before the Christmas game in Washington, we will be here

863
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: that week, but not next week. Okay, boon. This is

864
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: the part of the show where we invite questions from

865
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: our studio audience. This is a studio and so look out.

866
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: You are about to be grilled within an inch of

867
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: your young life. Okay, go ahead, Hello, good evening.

868
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: My name is Rambo. What's that? Rabo? Call you Rambo?

869
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: Excuse me? Why they call you Rambo?

870
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: Why they call me Rambo? Because they got a six

871
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: pack under this twelve pack? All right, all right, you

872
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: are the first one who has asked me that. Thank

873
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: you very much. So I have a question. You were

874
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: mentioning that you had you enjoyed watching the forty nine

875
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: ers that was your team.

876
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: Did you ever try to.

877
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: Pick up any tips and tricks from maybe Dion Sanders?

878
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 4: Oh?

879
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. My dad sat in the living room

880
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: for almost three hours, not I won't say every day,

881
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: but like twice a week, you know, three hours watching

882
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 2: Dion Sanders, and I just all knew he was fast

883
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: and explosive. But you know, I was young at that time,

884
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: so not really knowing all the details of the alignments

885
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: and everything, but just knowing how hard he worked, his effort,

886
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: his his dedication to to what he wanted approach and

887
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: how he wanted to concede. So just just watching that,

888
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: you know, in the background music kind of made it

889
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: a little high too.

890
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: So have you ever met him, Dion? You ever met that?

891
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 2: You ever met Dion?

892
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: Did Colorado try to get you up there? No?

893
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 5: No?

894
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: Wow?

895
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 5: Dan?

896
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: Yes, they just just know.

897
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: Okay, how are you doing?

898
00:49:59,719 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 1: Nerds?

899
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: M kitty? What's that?

900
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 7: This is gonna be awf of football? This is gonna

901
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 7: be a tony different career. You've been selected as the

902
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 7: destination management director for your hometown. Besides the ghost tours

903
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 7: that they have, what tourist attraction would bring people to

904
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 7: see your hometown?

905
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 4: Oh?

906
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: Man, I see you know about the ghost tours. You

907
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: know what he's talking about? The ghost tour. Okay, after

908
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: the show, Larry.

909
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: Now, okay, what would they bring to my community?

910
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean what would you what would you tell people?

911
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: Here's why you want to come and see Winston Sale?

912
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: Uh? You know, if you love the game of football,

913
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: if you love the game of football, you come down

914
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: to and it's all we about for real down there,

915
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: It's all about football. Love love football. You know a

916
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: lot of a lot don't make it out, but you

917
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: can see a lot of fighting, a lot of effort.

918
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 2: That's all we say.

919
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: Now that's also pretty good. Basketball country, basketball country.

920
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 2: You think watch basket in North Carolina?

921
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

922
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 4: Interesting, I don't.

923
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 2: Even watching basketball. My dad definitely put me in basketball.

924
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 2: No track basketball type of sports.

925
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: Then you were, you were a heck of a track athlete, right.

926
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say heck. I was alright, you're.

927
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: All right and all right? What were your what were

928
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: your events?

929
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: I ran the four hundred four about four four two.

930
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: I was not good at the hundred. I did do

931
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: the two hundred two high jump long jump. That's that's

932
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 2: about high jump.

933
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 3: What was your fastest time in the four hundred that

934
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: you remember?

935
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: I think of fifty fifty or fifty one. That's pretty fast.

936
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: Now. The high jump in my age it was unning,

937
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: Like what if the high jump is crazy? Did you

938
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: have a what method did you learn for clearing the bar?

939
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: Front roll, the Fostbury flop or what?

940
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 2: Wasn't really good at jump? To be honest with you,

941
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: I think they just seem out length. You know, I'm

942
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: not gonna say no, I'm gonna go out there and

943
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: try it, but I wasn't I wasn't really good, you know,

944
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 2: I had I had bad these too.

945
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: Okay that kind of got in the way. Yeah, yeah,

946
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: that'll do it. And basketball, did you play any basketball?

947
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: I played AAU basketball the thing for the Sealing Mavericks

948
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: something like that. You know. Just still didn't know too

949
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 2: much about basketball, but we tried. My dad wanted us

950
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 2: to to stay stay active. He didn't want us, you know,

951
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: around outside, you know what I mean. So we stayed active.

952
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 2: He kept us in sports and stuff. So we did

953
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: play basketball for us, say a couple a couple of years,

954
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: two three years played basketball. I really didn't like it because,

955
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't aggressive. You know, can hit Nobody

956
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: hit him with a pinky. It's a foul.

957
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

958
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to do all that, you know.

959
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: I want. I want to make some contact. I want

960
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: to back my my back.

961
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: My dad thought, how tall were you when you when

962
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: you were playing basketball?

963
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: I was like five five nine.

964
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so it's big enough. That's big enough to

965
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: go down a little post and banks some people around.

966
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: Actually made the team my sophomore year, but then I

967
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: got correct that same day.

968
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: I made the team the same day day. Okay, Well

969
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: that's a message from God. Uh No, No, you're a

970
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: football player, ron, definitely, definitely so the physical. Are you

971
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: a trash talker on the field.

972
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: Nah, I'm I'm I'm I'm um a guy, you know

973
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: what I mean. But I'm gonna let the know what

974
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 2: they dealing with you. I'm not one of them guys

975
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: you can push around?

976
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: What if you what? What do you do when you

977
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: encounter a trash talking receiver?

978
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: What I gotta what I gotta do? I mean, I

979
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: don't got to entertain. I don't need him to. He

980
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: canna miss up my game. Keep doing what I been doing.

981
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: Have you always been like that?

982
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I've I've talked some trash, you know,

983
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: and it's it's not worth it, you know what I mean?

984
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: So I just go out damply.

985
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: There was a guy at the hotel yesterday. I wish

986
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: you could have met him who played here for a

987
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: long time. His name is Orlando Scandrick. I was an

988
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: outstanding cornerback, worked his way up from being a very

989
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: low draft choice to a Pro Bowl player and uh

990
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: not overly big, not nearly as long as you and

991
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: he played with a chip on his shoulder, and I

992
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: have a feeling that Skendrick probably would have a conversation

993
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: with the receiver during the course of play. I love

994
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: for you to have been it was great to see him.

995
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: I just thought about that when I heard you talking

996
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 1: about being being aggressive. So so you like the tackling

997
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: part of the game, Well that makes you different from

998
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: Dion right away?

999
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.

1000
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: And so what is your favorite part of playing cornerback?

1001
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: Just the challenges? Like I said, you know what I mean,

1002
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 2: you're going to get the best, you know what I mean.

1003
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: You might have Jamar Chase, then you might have Jamar

1004
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: Chased and Tyreek Hillton this week and Justin Jefferson, you

1005
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Those are all challenges, you know

1006
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 2: what I mean. That's kind of like that's that's a

1007
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: mental challenge too, because you got to post the game

1008
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: the same way each week, you know, I mean, you

1009
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: can't think any different. You can't think because oh, he's

1010
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: the best receiver here, he got a thousand yards. You

1011
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: can't think that. You don't have no negative thoughts approaching

1012
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: the game. You want to push the game like you

1013
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: did each each practice.

1014
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: How about the nuances that would you didn't you have

1015
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 1: a penalty last night? Do you get called for a penalty? Yeah?

1016
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: Well what was it?

1017
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 2: What was it for? Holding?

1018
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: Did you think you held the guy?

1019
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 2: I don't maybe hold him, I kind of. I was

1020
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 2: probably little to aggressive, you know, I don't think I

1021
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 2: hold him, though I don't think I held him was aggressive.

1022
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: The only reason I'm asking that is is that one

1023
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: of the hardest things to learn and making the transition

1024
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: to professional football. What can you get away with? How

1025
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: can There are things I can get away with, but

1026
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: I have to know how to do them and so

1027
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't get called And learning the officials, is that

1028
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: one of the toughest parts.

1029
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, gotta gotta find waste of finesse you know

1030
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: what I mean. Definitely at corner, Definitely pressed man corner

1031
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of hand fighting. That's not a screamage,

1032
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: so you know, we can't touch nobody past five yards.

1033
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: But you don't want to put that in your head.

1034
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: Just continue to play a game, you know what I mean.

1035
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: That's probably one of the one of the hardest thing

1036
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 2: to do. Just this become muscle Maria if you practice

1037
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: it every day.

1038
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 3: One thing I love hearing you say is that you're

1039
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 3: self motivated. Obviously you like to challenge yourself. What is

1040
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 3: what is the challenge for yourself for the rest of

1041
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 3: the season, for.

1042
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 2: The rest of the season, is to stay consistent, you

1043
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean? You know throughout this process, you

1044
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 2: know what I mean, still going out there and trusting that, Okay,

1045
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: this is this is not a different This is not different.

1046
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 2: This is just a different day, you know what I mean.

1047
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: Approach each day with the attempt to get better on

1048
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: my details, my alignment, my assignment. And that's just kind

1049
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: of how I go throughout my day and out my

1050
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: practices and not my game days. And that's Falu approach it.

1051
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: Well, the I can't even say we've just seen the beginning.

1052
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: We've just seen the beginning of the beginning of what

1053
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: Saban revel is gonna be. But I think people know

1054
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: you a little bit better now. So thank you for

1055
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: coming and I appreciate you. I really appreciate you being here.

1056
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,959
Speaker 1: Appreciate and you're gonna love watching this young man play.

1057
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: Now You're gonna love number thirty four. This is the

1058
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys Hour. I'm Brad Sham with Nicol Hutchinson and we'll

1059
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: see you a week from next Monday,