1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on Giants 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: dot Com. Here we go, Giants Podcast Network, Welcome to 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: the latest edition of the Giants Huttle Podcast. Lance Medal 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: with you as we are continuing to break down the 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty two draft class. In the second round, 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: the Giants added another weapon to the offensive side of 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: the ball as they took Kentucky wide receiver Wondelle Robinson 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: with the forty three overall pick. And to get more 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: into Robinson and what he'll bring to the Giants were 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: now joined by a man who coached him for his 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: lone season with the Wildcats as his positional coach. That 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: is none other than Kentucky wide receivers coach Scott Woodward. Coach, 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: greatly appreciate the time today. This is certainly a player 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: that you know very well, and I want to start 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: with the fact that he spent his first two seasons 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: in Nebraska. So you joined the staff prior to the 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty one season, just as he joined the roster. 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: What were your first impressions of Landell Robinson considering he 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: was not a member of Kentucky prior to that. Yeah, no, Um, 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 1: you know when I when I got on staff here, Um, 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: you know, the guys were saying, hey, we got a 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: pretty good shot at landing this transfer. One day. He's 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: from Kentucky and I threw on the Nebraska tape and 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: you know the thing that pops off right as you 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: watch is this man is special with the ball in 26 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: his hands. You know, he would line up in the slot, 27 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: running back all over the field, and uh, when Nebraska 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: got the ball in his hand, special things happens. And um, 29 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, coming from Nebraska and bring him into into 30 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: our system with Liam Cohen who's now the OC for 31 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams, all you could kind of look 32 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: at it and see is the Cooper Cup comparison, you know, 33 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: and uh what the Rams to do with Cooper Cup. 34 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: That's kind of what we sold them on. Um. And 35 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: he came in here and obviously, uh produced at a 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: very high level. Had a hundred and four catches for yards, 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, it was tops in the nation and both 38 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: those categories, and um, you know, just uh with him 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: being such a um you know, a guy that just 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: loves foot ball and can take it mentally uh and 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: throw and put it back on the field into what 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: a great product he did. Uh, it was so easy 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: just to get on the rock because we you know, 44 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: lined them ump all over the place. Um, but his 45 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: meant his mental aspect of the game is is such like, um, 46 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, not as good as Cooper Cup, but just 47 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, very close to it. And uh, we threw 48 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: a lot at him and he was able to handle 49 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: all of it. You mentioned Liam Cohen, who now he's 50 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: the Rams offensive coordinator. He was the Kentucky o C. 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: So that our viewers can understand that he was actually 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: previously on the Rams staff. So what was Cooper Cup coach? 53 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: A great model for what you thought you could get 54 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: out of Landell Roberts. It just the way the way 55 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: the Rams used him in his offense and how he 56 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: lines up and um, you know when Liam came here, 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: he would talk about how Cooper just um, how smart 58 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: he was and how how how they could throw all 59 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: this stuff at him and he could handle it all 60 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: and understand defenses and understand concepts and the coverage and 61 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: what's going on not just pre snap but snap. And 62 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: when you sit down and talk to one Dell Um 63 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: and you know, since he's been drafted or before he's 64 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: been drafted, all these scouts and coaches, I've always asked me, like, 65 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: what makes one deal so great? And one thing, you know, 66 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: the kid's an absolute dog. That's just on the field. 67 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: But um, the one thing that really makes him special 68 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: is anything that I have ever said to that kid, 69 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: he's remembered, you know. So there there was no ever 70 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: an issue of taking anything I've total him or coached 71 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: on him in the in the meeting room to the field. 72 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: It was. It was second hand. It was you know, 73 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: you can tell him some little detail about a route 74 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: or a play and it's done on the field, you know. 75 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: And uh, that's a very uh special trait to have 76 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: as a wide receiver, and especially being uh in a 77 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: in a pro style system. You know that I'm assuming 78 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, the Giants and a bunch of other teams 79 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: will be running. Helped him a bunch and helped him tremendously. 80 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: So his mental he'll always he'll already be ready to go. 81 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: You know, here the play in the huddle, come out, 82 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: break the huddle, line up in the slot or wherever 83 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: it may be, and play play fasten a high level. 84 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up the type of system that 85 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: you ran at Kentucky and how that may translate to 86 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: the NFL, because if you look at Brian Dable, the 87 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: Giants head coach, and Mike Kafka, the offensive coordinator, they 88 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: come from the bills of the Chiefs, respectively coach, and 89 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: it seems as if, at least my takeaway is they 90 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: had similar personnel to want del Robinson. What I mean 91 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: is a Tyreek hill of Mcole Hardman, Isaiah McKenzie, and 92 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley and how Robinson I think could fit in 93 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: that profile. Once you get him out in open space, 94 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: they do a lot of damage. I'm curious how much 95 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: do you think that makes sense? And that could be 96 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: a great fit for what the Giants want to run. 97 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: Now I think it is a great fit. You know, 98 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: you talk about those those receivers just mentioned, and you 99 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: could tell by the Giants draft and wander in the 100 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: second round. Uh, they had a clear vision of what 101 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: they want him to be, you know. So um and 102 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: that was one of the things after after the draft 103 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: that I talked to one dull about, you know, and uh, 104 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: when he talked to coach Day, well, like they just 105 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: had a clear vision of what he wanted him to 106 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: do for him and um, you know those those receivers 107 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: you mentioned. Some may think they're you know, gadgety receivers 108 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: Tyree Hill, you know, but get make no mistake of 109 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: at all. Those guys are great water shooters and they 110 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 1: can run the entire route tree, just like one Delkin. 111 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: You know, some guys would as he came here, they 112 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: thought maybe because he was coming from Nebraska, and Nebraska 113 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: used him all these different ways, kind of as like 114 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: a gadget guy. He was our number one receiver. He 115 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: lined up and he ran the big boy routes and 116 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: he was you know, running those twenty yard outs, you know, 117 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: those twenty yard ends and the twenty yard all those 118 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: play action passes that the Rams do so well and 119 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: you know the forty Niners and all these teams do 120 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: well in the NFL. That he was our guy that 121 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: we were throwing that ball too. So he can run 122 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: the route tree. Um, yes, can you do all those 123 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: gadgety things. Absolutely, because he's just so dynamic. But um, 124 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: I think you know he's gonna fit perfectly into that 125 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: offense because you know, being drafted so high in the 126 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: second round, it just shows you, you know, the clear 127 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: vision and the plane of the Giants have to use them. 128 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Don't miss your chance to experience a premier hospitality experience 129 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: watching Giants games, world class concerts in two as a 130 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: Giant Sweet partner. Limited full season locations are available, or 131 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: plays a deposit for individual games called n YG of 132 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: his Giants dot com slash suites for more information. You 133 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: referred to the versatility that he showcased the Nebraska I 134 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: think the numbers that jump off the page coaches a 135 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: hundred thirty four runs he had in two seasons with 136 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: the corn Huskers. You only ran him seven times according 137 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: to the statistics. I'm just curious why you focus more 138 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: on Hey, like you said, let's showcase him as our 139 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: number one wide receiver, is opposed to trying to maybe 140 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: utilize him more out of the backfield. No, yeah, that 141 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: was actually one of our selling points. You know, he 142 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: he was. If you ask one bill Um and this 143 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: is the kind of funny story. I don't know if 144 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: he wants me to tell you this, but if you 145 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: ask one Dell you know why he transferred from Kentucky, 146 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: he will tell you the exact play when he was like, 147 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here, you know, And it 148 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: was I'm not sure who they were playing. It might 149 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: have been Wisconsin, but he was. He was a line 150 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: up in the backfield, doesn't running back, and Wisconsin brought 151 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: a cross dog blitz and he was he had to 152 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: protect it and and pick up that blitzer. And it 153 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: was about a you know, one d'll barely barely touches 154 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: five eight and you're talking about a big ten linebacker 155 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: going full force. Actually, he's like, I've had enough of this. 156 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: So one of the one of the things that we 157 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: had when we brought him here at the selling points 158 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: was like, no, we're gonna use you as a wide receiver. 159 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna showcase your talent at wide out. You know, 160 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: he had he uh, he was had enough of line 161 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: up in the backfield and and taking on a little 162 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: big boys in the middle. So that's kind of one 163 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: of the reasons why completely understandable. However, as you can 164 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: attest to coach, when you do play wide receiver in 165 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: the NFL, you're gonna have to block for maybe running 166 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: backs or other wide receivers. Despite the fact that people 167 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: who look at his physique, they look at his stature, 168 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: they say, well, you know, how was a guy like 169 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: that going to last in the NFL. Why is it 170 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: that his height does not tell his whole story? Just 171 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: just his mentality. Man, he's an absolute dog, like uh, 172 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, there was a play this past season where 173 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: he catches the ball in the three yard line and 174 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: the only way in the end zone was through a 175 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: guy you know, and he ran and he ran him 176 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: over for for six points. Him And he's had many many, um, 177 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: you know, explosive blocks in the run game as a 178 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver to to um you know, bounce our guys 179 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: are running backs out to the outside. He's just very 180 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: smart with it. Is he going to be the most 181 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: physical guy and they're absolutely not. But he's he's gonna 182 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: be smarter than the person that he's blocking, and he's 183 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: gonna know how to use his body and his leverage 184 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: to it to the best of his ability. And he'll 185 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: get at the job done, no doubt about that. You 186 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: brought up the term gadget player and how we have 187 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: a tendency to look at somebody the size of Wandel 188 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: Robinson like that. But he proved that Kentucky, he's so 189 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: much more. Interestingly, coach, they have a player by the 190 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: name of kiddare Is Tony. I'm not sure your familiarity 191 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: with him, but he played at Florida and there's been 192 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: some similarities between the two. The reason I bring that 193 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: up is Robinson has been talked about is primarily being 194 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: a slot wide receiver. But based on what you're saying, 195 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: you're saying, hey, don't just categorize him is a guy 196 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: that could play in the slot. So if the Giants 197 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: do have Tony, Robinson, state Kwon Barkley all on the 198 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: field at the same time, how much potential do you 199 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: see him if they have to line him up on 200 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: the outside. I mean to me, it doesn't matter where 201 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: you put him. You know he's gonna make plays regardless. Um, 202 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing. I wouldn't want to be 203 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: that defensive coordinator that has to game plan against those 204 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: three guys. That's a pretty scary threesome right there. Uh 205 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, because uh, Stay, Kwan and Tony are are 206 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: great players in their own right, But um, you know 207 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: one dell uh you know, in the at the next 208 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: level and I can see him being a great slot 209 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: But just like like I said, man, he can he 210 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: can line up anywhere you need to need him to 211 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: be and he'll be successful. The other thing that I 212 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: think a lot of people talk about with what he 213 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: could bring to the Giants, and most rookies need to 214 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: have a willingness to do this is contribute on special teams. Now, 215 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: he was utilized as a punt returner for a little 216 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: bit of Kentucky. He actually had some kickoff return work 217 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: in Nebraska. What did you see out of him as 218 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: a punt return er and what perhaps could translate over 219 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: to the NFL level. Yeah, just, uh, the trust factor. 220 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: You know, when you knew he was back there, you 221 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: trusted that he was going to catch the ball. And 222 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: I know for as a coach and any coach, they'll 223 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: tell you the most important part about being a punch 224 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: returners being able to trust the guy back there to 225 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: catch it, you know. So uh, and then his just 226 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: ability to catch the ball make the first man miss. 227 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: I mean, you can throw the tape on whether it's 228 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: a punt return or catcher or reception or anything. He 229 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: did a great job of making that first man miss. 230 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: And I truly believe you know, one on one, there 231 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: wasn't anyone in the country last year that could tackle 232 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: him one on one if he had some if he 233 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: had some open space. His his ability just to put 234 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: his leg in the ground and and and make miss uh. 235 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: It was truly special to see. I mean the amount 236 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: of broken tackles or mis tackles that he caused. Um, 237 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if PFF does a does a stat 238 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: on that, but I'm assuming it would be top of 239 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: the country. Well, they may want to add that category 240 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: to your point, they don't have it yet. I'm glad 241 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: you brought that up because I think when we were 242 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: talking earlier about his ability to do damage if he 243 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: could get him out in open space. What I'm curious 244 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: about is you look at his numbers. You mentioned, he said, 245 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: all types of Kentucky single season records, and you would think, well, 246 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: a few games into the season run a defense would 247 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: have a better read on him. But it seems as 248 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: if you consistently got production out of him. So how 249 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: did you walk that fine line of anticipating, well, maybe 250 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: the defense is gonna play him this way differently because 251 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: of all the highlights that he had earlier in the year. 252 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: You know, in my coaching career, I've kind of learned that, 253 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes we have offensive coaches to give defensive 254 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: guys too much credit, you know. So, Uh, yes, we 255 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: were prepared for, you know, every week for maybe a 256 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: defense to you know, spotlight him and try to take 257 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: him out of the picture. But most of most of 258 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: the time, those defenses just just played what they played, 259 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, and uh we found ways to attack what 260 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: they did. Um, very rarely. Um, you know, guys change 261 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: their defense has changed the way they tried to attack 262 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: because you know, I think they just thought that you 263 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: know it is I don't know they I guess they 264 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: didn't give them respect he deserved, you know. And um, 265 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: when even when teams would put their best on him 266 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: that they caught, could think they could shut them down. 267 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: You know, his his rottle running ability, just go back 268 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: to that and his fundamentals just you know, overtook it. 269 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: And obviously we have a pretty good quarterback here in 270 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: will Levis. They'll be high draft pick next year. Um. 271 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: You know, I was able to give him the ball 272 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: and give them the ball a lot. Speaking of respect 273 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: from the defensive side of things, Interestingly, you went up 274 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: against L. S U this past season and they have 275 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: a corner by the name of Cordelle Flot who the 276 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: Giants took in the third round the coach. When both 277 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: of the players were drafted, they talked about the mutual 278 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: respect that they had for one another, specifically coming out 279 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: of that matchup. As a wide receivers coach, I'm assuming 280 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: you do a lot of prep work on the defensive 281 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: backs from your wide receiver. I'm just curious what you 282 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: thought a flot in preparing for him and what you 283 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: may recall from that matchup between he and Robinson. Yeah, 284 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure after watching the game how much 285 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: they actually lined up on each other, because I know 286 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: we do a great job of moving one dell all 287 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: all around, so it's tough for a dB to uh 288 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: follow him around. But you know BNL see all all 289 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: they do is run man coverage. So, um, you know, 290 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: that kid was pretty good. I know, we definitely watched 291 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: him every Thursday. Our meetings on Thursdays, we we highlight 292 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: those dbs. You know, I'll give them about ten, anywhere 293 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: from ten to fifteen clips of how they how they play. 294 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: We're on press or press or off coverage. Um, but 295 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: that kid was special. You know, he was definitely a 296 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: guy that we we kept her eye out for and 297 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: had to know where he was on the field at 298 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: all times. On a related note to the defensive side 299 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: of the ball, LANDA. Robinson is not the only Kentucky 300 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: player in the Giant's uniform right now because the Giant 301 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: signed undrafted rookie free agent safety Yusef Cawker, who you 302 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: obviously were exposed to last season team captain as the 303 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: team had passes defense. What was your big takeaway from 304 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: watching him go to work in practice and also in 305 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: games on the opposite side of the field. Yeah, Yusuf 306 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: is is one heck of a great young man, always 307 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: about his business. I mean, if you've seen him in person, 308 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: he's absolutely lut rocked up. I wish I had his body. Um. 309 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: You know, he's just he's a great kid. He comes 310 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: into work every day, doesn't say much. Um. Truly a 311 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: a great leader on the team, you know. I think, Uh, 312 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: he had the voice of the defense, you know, and 313 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: every all those guys on defense looked up to him. 314 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: I know, I know our our defensive staffer is truly 315 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: gonna miss him. Um. But you could definitely out in 316 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: the field feel him everything little game. Um. Being how 317 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: physical he is in the run game, he'll he'll come 318 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: downhill and hit shut um and then obviously, like you 319 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: you mentioned Passes defendantive, he's great in the cover. He's 320 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: I think he was um underrated in that aspect, you know, 321 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: And so I think you guys getting him as an 322 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: under free agent, you guys got to steal there because 323 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna. I I truly think he's gonna be one 324 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: of those guys that are you know, ten twelve years 325 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: in the league. Giant season tickets are on sale now 326 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: for the season. 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And the reason I bring 336 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: that up Coaches Giants defensive coordinator Wink Martin Jale. He 337 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: absolutely loves to play, So how do you see him 338 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: maybe fitting into that fashion of the defense. Yeah, and 339 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: again and our defensive coordinate here, Brad White does a 340 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: great job. He was i think six years in the 341 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: league with the Indianapolis Colts as a as a linebacker coach. 342 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: So our system here that we use is again kind 343 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: of like offense. It's very pro style, pro style driven, um, 344 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, we put a lot on our 345 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: safety is able to make checks and all that and 346 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: feel set the defense right. And I think his uh, 347 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, I've never been in a meeting with Ustith, 348 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: but those guys down the hall, they talked about how 349 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: how good he was mentally, just like wandel is um. 350 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: And I think that will help him in the long 351 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: run because as you go, especially those those free agent 352 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: type of guys, the smarter you are, the smarter you are, 353 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: the longer going to be there, you know. So being 354 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: in special teams and being being able to be so 355 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: smart and run the defense at a high level here 356 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: in the sec um, I think that's only gonna benefit tremendously. 357 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: On the topic of undrafted players, it's only a operate. 358 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: We segue to another connection that you have to the 359 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: New York Football Giants, and that is Victor Cruz because 360 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: our viewer is correct that don't know your history just 361 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: real quickly. You were at U Mass with Victor Cruz 362 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: in terms of playing days, as was Liam Cohen, so 363 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: it's quite the small world in terms of Yeah, so 364 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: I'm actually a little mad at Vic right now. We 365 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: really me him and me, Him and Liam had a 366 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 1: group chat. It was last week because if you if 367 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: you didn't see it, you know, Vick has only been 368 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: playing golf for a year and a half now and 369 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: he just had a hole in one. If I don't 370 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: know if you saw, it was all over social media 371 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: and Liam has two and I don't have any, and 372 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: I play golf more than the two of them combined. 373 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: So uh, you know, I was a little salty about 374 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: how how big got a hole on one. You know, 375 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: had to be a lucky shot obviously, but um, no vixed, 376 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: great man. We were staying contact every now and again. 377 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: If something like that happens, we all group chat together. Um, 378 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: but it's a know, he's one of the County's, a great, 379 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: great friend, coach. I didn't mean to bring up such 380 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: a sore subject that should have studied up on the 381 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: golf history between No, I'm actually I'm trying to get 382 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: with him. End of this month, I'm headed out to 383 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: Westchester County. I got a little golf trip with somebody's 384 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: you know, we're going out there kind of by you 385 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: playing wing foot, playing quaker Ridge, playing uh Hudson Nationals. 386 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: So it would be good to get out there. Maybe 387 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: I'll invite them around and try to take some of 388 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: the money nice well as a follow up to that, 389 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: and good luck in terms of taking a few pieces 390 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: of green from him. Victor Cruz was known for to 391 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: your point, like Corker, somebody who was undrafted, fought his way, 392 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: grinding out emerged into a star. But he was also 393 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: a very shifty guy like a wan Bill Robinson. I'm 394 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: just curious, having been around both of them during their 395 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: playing days, do you see any similarities? I do? I do? 396 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: You know? And and uh, one thing I think Victor 397 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: didn't get a lot of credit for us how smart 398 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: he was as well. Um, you know, because when we 399 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: were we were in college, we were approached all offense 400 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: as well, so we moved to him all around. Uh 401 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: and he was able to run a route tree and uh, 402 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: I do see some similarities how they how they move 403 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: in the slot and how smooth he is, Um, you know, 404 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: being able to on those choice routes and options routes, 405 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: how to make those the decisions to make the defender 406 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: never right, Um, you know, and then uh, the ability 407 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: with the run after catch I think is very similar. 408 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: You know when when Bick cut the ball to the Giants, 409 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: you know you never knew what he was gonna do 410 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: with it. The same with the same with one Dell. 411 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: They have a very uh similar uh like the dead leg, 412 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: the one legs ship, the one legs stiff leg right there. 413 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: I think that was very similar, just to be able 414 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: to make the guy miss and um, you know, I 415 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: I hope one Dell is just as successful as Dick 416 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: as he comes to be a Giant. Always good to 417 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: keep defenses guessing, as you can attest to now before 418 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: we wrap up, it's only appropriate. Clearly Robinson made quite 419 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: the impact for you personally in Kentucky because over your 420 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: left shoulder you are showcasing the likes a future Giants 421 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver Wandell Robinson. No, that that's one of his. 422 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: I gotta get another one up here behind me too, 423 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: But that's I had to make that. That was a 424 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: single season record hundred four catches last year. That was 425 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: the most ever in Kentucky history. So I gotta get 426 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: the other one for four yards for most yards in 427 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: Kentucky history and a single season. So not done yet. 428 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: I still got to add a little bit more to 429 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: the wall here. It's a work in progress. But we 430 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: do appreciate coach that you thought through the background for 431 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: our Giants Subtle podcast. I had to I was I 432 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: was over here, was all bright, the windows were going. 433 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: So I got my guy Steve Young over here to 434 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: my over my right shoulder, my man one Dell Robinson 435 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: over here in my left. That's a nice mix. Every 436 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: wide receiver needs a great quarterback. Certainly the Giants are 437 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: hoping the connection between Wandell Robinson and Daniel Jones flourishes 438 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: in Big Blue. Is Scott Woodward, Kentucky wide receiver coach 439 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: who coach Wandell Robinson at the Wildcats in two thousand 440 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: twenty one second round pick for the Giants, coach greatly 441 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: to shape the time and the inside, and that's the 442 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: one moving forward. I appreciate you, man. Take care. This 443 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: is the latest edition of the Giant Tuttle Podcast, which 444 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: you can catch on giants dot com, the mobile app, 445 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: and your favorite podcast platform.