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Speaker 1: Welcome to the news edition of the Giants Little Podcast.

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Speaker 1: The Monster Show coming your way today. As we preview

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Speaker 1: the Giants and Cowboys. I have a chance to talk

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Speaker 1: to Dallas Cowboys defensive ent roll Basham, Paul Detino and

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Speaker 1: Lance Medal talk to Cowboys radio analyst and former quarterback

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Speaker 1: Babe Loffenberg. Bob Papa talks to Giants head coach Joe Judge,

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Speaker 1: and I talked to Giants rookie wide receiver could Arius Tony,

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Speaker 1: coming off his breakout game against the Saints and the

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Speaker 1: giants first one of the year last week. Of course,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get started. We're gonna lead off this

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Speaker 1: week with the Giants rookie wide receiver could Arius Tony.

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Speaker 1: I had a chance to talk to him. Could Area

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Speaker 1: sends a mean with this man, I'm doing great. Um, well,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about it. What's the excitement level for you

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Speaker 1: going to play in Dallas against the Cowboys NFC East rival,

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Speaker 1: and also the stadium where you played your first ever

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Speaker 1: college game. There's a lot of emotions built up into

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Speaker 1: this game because it was like, it's why I first

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Speaker 1: this level. So I'm just really appreciative of the coaches

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Speaker 1: even giving me a chance to be here. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you're in high school, had you ever played in

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Speaker 1: like one of those big stadiums and like a state

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Speaker 1: championship or anything like that, sir? Is that stadium is crazy?

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Speaker 1: I mean I when I when I went there for

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Speaker 1: five six years, and I've seen a lot of buildings.

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Speaker 1: When you're driving up to that thing, it's like looking

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Speaker 1: at the death Star, right, I mean yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: get wondering from my career. Dude. It's crazy, man, it

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Speaker 1: really is. It's going to be exciting for and off

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Speaker 1: from me. You watch their defense on film with what

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Speaker 1: that's challenging for a guy like you trying to get

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Speaker 1: open to make some place. Um really a lot of

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Speaker 1: undercutting that you know, dbs do you know they played

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Speaker 1: hard and really aggressive, you know, all all phases of

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Speaker 1: the game. They play kind of aggressive and hard. You know.

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Speaker 1: So we just gotta go in and have that mindset

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Speaker 1: as if like we're going to war, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying about them, you know, So they gotta be

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Speaker 1: up another SEC cornerback Trayvon digs Right, So you talked

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Speaker 1: about him taking some chances, right, and he tries to

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Speaker 1: undercut some routes. So what do you have to do

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Speaker 1: as a wide receiver to try to help protect your quarterback? Right,

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Speaker 1: So when he throws you that sprint out, that quick

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Speaker 1: sure I always stay quarterback friendly, you know, I always

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Speaker 1: come in and out of my brakes clean and you know,

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Speaker 1: run out of your brakes because that's what most like

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Speaker 1: most of Steve would like go wrong. Yeah, they always

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Speaker 1: um win at the top of the route of something,

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Speaker 1: like to throw a clean throwd on like all that,

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Speaker 1: And you know, is that something you've learned a lot

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Speaker 1: being here for the for the first few months, this

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Speaker 1: He was always owned us about that, but we never

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Speaker 1: It's also not telegraphing what you're gonna do to so

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Speaker 1: Who are the guys that have really helped you out

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Speaker 1: It's crazy because it's like it's like I'm with the

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Speaker 1: of Dante Pettis, you know, he came in. Hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: So it's always somebody in my corner, like, no matter what.

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Speaker 1: That's why I like about our room, Like everybody always

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Speaker 1: to answer. You gave it your press conference. I think

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Speaker 1: something new. Can you just explain why that's the case

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Speaker 1: for you? It's just really because when you're like in

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Speaker 1: is just like every learned opportunity that I get, I

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Speaker 1: me because I got a lot of nephew nieces and stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, They want to do different

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Speaker 1: That must have driven your nuts. Then when over the

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Speaker 1: You know, when I first got back Hills, like everybody

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Speaker 1: when did it really start to click for you when

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Speaker 1: you like in Thomas meet, he's here, like, I'm ready

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. I know you are. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I'm ready to take advantage of

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Speaker 1: that the game I um had, the game opposition the

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, once he kind of combines that

429
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Speaker 1: athleticism with some more technique. Kids, lett me be scary.

430
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Speaker 1: I think that's very six sick that. I think it's

431
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Speaker 1: very accurate. How about the other rookie on your defensive line,

432
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Speaker 1: a guy that's played next to you a little bit,

433
00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,520
Speaker 1: oh so diggi Zoa. We had his brother, oh his

434
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Speaker 1: older brother up here for a few years with the Giants,

435
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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you he really pops on tape with

436
00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,640
Speaker 1: his length of his ability to get up field. Yeah.

437
00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,040
Speaker 1: And another thing about us, he's really smart. You know,

438
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,880
Speaker 1: he knows how to be on the field. He knows

439
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Speaker 1: how to rush, and he's good with his hands too,

440
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Speaker 1: you know, at a young age. So I expect we

441
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Speaker 1: I think we all expect the big things at ELSA.

442
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Speaker 1: You know, you talk about the big plays you guys

443
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Speaker 1: make on defense. How much does it help to have

444
00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,040
Speaker 1: such a high powered offense on the other side that

445
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Speaker 1: maybe gives you guys a little bit more of a

446
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Speaker 1: green light to take some more chances to try to

447
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Speaker 1: get those big plays. Because you know, if all right,

448
00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,680
Speaker 1: if we give a big give up a big play

449
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Speaker 1: here or there, we know the offense can kind of

450
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Speaker 1: come back and get those points back back up on

451
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Speaker 1: the board. For you, It's really complimentary and it it

452
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Speaker 1: means the most because like when the offense is on

453
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Speaker 1: the field, you know, and tom possession allows us to

454
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Speaker 1: be energized when we get on the field, and like

455
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Speaker 1: you said, knowing that we can call on him to

456
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Speaker 1: put the points up on the board allows us to play.

457
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Speaker 1: What do you think about what you've seen from sake

458
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Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley so far? Last week he made the big

459
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Speaker 1: play in the passing game. He hasn't quite erupted yet

460
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Speaker 1: with the rushing attack. What do you see from him

461
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Speaker 1: as he's trying to make his way back from that

462
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Speaker 1: injury last year. I mean, he's I see that he's

463
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Speaker 1: still capable of being the guy he's always been, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: and uh that he's explosives as he as he's always been.

465
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Speaker 1: You know, he's just getting back comfortable. You know, you

466
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Speaker 1: see him getting better every week. How about a young

467
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Speaker 1: quarterback like Jones. He's somebody this year that has kept

468
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Speaker 1: the ball out on some of these read options plays

469
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Speaker 1: as someone that please end you want to get after

470
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Speaker 1: the quarterback. You want to be aggressive getting after sake

471
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Speaker 1: want to your point, but at the same time, you

472
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Speaker 1: have to protect the edge if he wants to keep it.

473
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Speaker 1: So what's that counting mouse game that you have to

474
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Speaker 1: play to make sure you secure the edge in case

475
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Speaker 1: Jones keep it, keeps it. But you also want to

476
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Speaker 1: try to make plays on the running back. He's a

477
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Speaker 1: little deceivingly fast, you know, so he does make plays

478
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Speaker 1: um with his feet, you know, and um, we just

479
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,160
Speaker 1: got to take that into consideration. You know. I want

480
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Speaker 1: to sit like again, I said, d Q does a

481
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Speaker 1: good job put us in the right position to make

482
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Speaker 1: the place. Not to thank so much, you know throughout

483
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Speaker 1: we appreciate the time, man, we appreciate it. We'll talk

484
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Speaker 1: to you down the road, right Bud, All right, thank you.

485
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 1: That's Dallas Cowboys at rush your troll bash him. Don't

486
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Speaker 1: miss out on the return of New York Giants football.

487
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Speaker 1: Season is now on their way, but there's still time

488
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Speaker 1: to secure your season tickets and root on your Giants

489
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 1: right here in MetLife Stadium. Speak with the Giants ticket

490
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Speaker 1: representative now by calling and becoming a season ticket member.

491
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Speaker 1: It's n y G nineteen. All right, now it's on

492
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Speaker 1: to hear from the head coach of the New York

493
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Speaker 1: Football Giants, Joe Judge. Bob Papa had a chance to

494
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Speaker 1: talk to him. Coach, you know, obviously so many positive

495
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Speaker 1: things last week. You know, you preach messages each and

496
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Speaker 1: every week and reinforce positives. How much more fun was

497
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Speaker 1: it reinforcing positives coming off a win last week? It

498
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: was good to see the guys you don't you know,

499
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Speaker 1: get the reward for success from our hard work last week.

500
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Speaker 1: They had a good week of work. It transferred to

501
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Speaker 1: they'll finished the game. That's something we've been upsize and

502
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 1: as a team, you know, in terms of you know,

503
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 1: coming out of the game. I mean, look, the meetings

504
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 1: of us are always the same, you know, correct the mistakes,

505
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Speaker 1: building what we did positive and move on the next opponent.

506
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Speaker 1: So you know, you come in Monday with us, we've

507
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Speaker 1: already put the next that previous game to bed and

508
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: we start working on the next opponent. You have to

509
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: be proud of your football team as far as uh

510
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 1: playing with poise, hostile environment loud yet you know, no

511
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Speaker 1: procedural penalties. Uh, everything was buttoned up and you're gonna

512
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Speaker 1: face the same thing. Yeah, it's gonna be loud, probably

513
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: louder than it was last week, and that's saying a lot,

514
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 1: but obviously it's you know, more people in the stadium.

515
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a passionate crowd. So we've practiced very

516
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Speaker 1: much that we did last week in terms of simulating

517
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Speaker 1: and noise and all things. We've got to put pressure

518
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Speaker 1: on the players. Their responding right the right way last week.

519
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Speaker 1: You know it's not gonna be anything handless. We out

520
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Speaker 1: there and do it for sixty minutes, So you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm pleased way they prepared this week. Coach, obviously, your

522
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Speaker 1: job is to prepare your players, and your assistant coaches

523
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: play a very pivotal role in constantly developing guys. You

524
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Speaker 1: have to be proud of what you saw last week

525
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: with John Ross coming off I R and then not

526
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Speaker 1: only contribute with the big touchdown catch, but the place

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Speaker 1: he made in overtime. We're really things that really had

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Speaker 1: to be rewarding for you guys. As a staff. Yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: i'd say, you know, we're tying the assistant coaching Tyke

530
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Speaker 1: and Russ Callahy done a great job of these receivers.

531
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Speaker 1: You know, we had a lot of guys who you know,

532
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Speaker 1: weren't fully involved through training camp for one reason or another.

533
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Speaker 1: You know, keeping those guys mentally engaged, and then keeping

534
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Speaker 1: them through the rehab process, you know, into the game

535
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Speaker 1: plan so that mentally they can play faster they get back.

536
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Speaker 1: You know, our medical team did a great job of

537
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Speaker 1: you know, really for John simulating the practice best they

538
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Speaker 1: could through his rehabs so we can get on the

539
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Speaker 1: field and stay on the field. Force and obviously he's

540
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Speaker 1: a guy with the top end speed, you know, that's

541
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Speaker 1: really his biggest strength. And Mason big catches force down

542
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Speaker 1: down a stretch. But they'll get out there and play

543
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: a full load of a game really, you know, coming

544
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Speaker 1: into his first game, that was big for him. Dallas

545
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,719
Speaker 1: second in the league. And takeaways they have ten, uh,

546
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Speaker 1: they have eight straight games where they've had two or

547
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Speaker 1: more takeaways. What makes them so good at taking the

548
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Speaker 1: ball away? Very talented and played extremely high effort and

549
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Speaker 1: really see what these guys fly out to the ball.

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Speaker 1: You know, Dan is a great job of getting the

551
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Speaker 1: team to put high effort in urgency. You can see

552
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: them really attacking. They're really looking at overhand punch a lot,

553
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: and they're very aggressive to jump the routes underneath. You

554
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: see digs on that perimeter a lot of times. A

555
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Speaker 1: lot of his productions come from the jumping those routes

556
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Speaker 1: coming down. So if you throw light to the outside

557
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Speaker 1: part of the field, you know, that's where he makes

558
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Speaker 1: a lot of his production. You gotta make sure that

559
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Speaker 1: we're on time, make the right decisions and no pre snap,

560
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Speaker 1: you know, really working. Obviously, your offense function very well

561
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: last week, and Daniel Jones is even if you go

562
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: back to last year, is playing at a pretty hot level. Um,

563
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Speaker 1: what are some of the things growth wise that you've

564
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Speaker 1: seen in him as he's matured as a player. Yeah,

565
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Speaker 1: to me, the biggest thing is always for any quarterback

566
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Speaker 1: the command they have within the offense. And really I

567
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Speaker 1: started seeing it, you know last year's we went on

568
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Speaker 1: and progress. It really showed up in the spring, really

569
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Speaker 1: seeing the command he had on the line of skrimmasheou

570
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Speaker 1: be able to go ahead and recognize the defense was

571
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Speaker 1: given him, to adjust protections, to change the play at times,

572
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Speaker 1: but really to take of the defense is given him

573
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Speaker 1: very just operate efficiently, and you see him operate with

574
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Speaker 1: the noise and the pressure and the speed of the game,

575
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Speaker 1: and he's just really calmback there and everyone collected and

576
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: puts in the right situation. On the flip side Dallas offensively,

577
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: they're averaging thirty eight and a half a game at home,

578
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: they put points on the board. Doc doesn't look like

579
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: he's missed a beat, does he. No, that guy's one

580
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: of top players in the league for a reason, and

581
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: he's a big, strong quarterback. Look, we hated seeing this

582
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Speaker 1: guy get hurt last year, and you have a lot

583
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Speaker 1: of respect for players in the league, a lot of

584
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Speaker 1: respect for good people in the league, and he's both.

585
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Speaker 1: And you watch where this guy's come back from that

586
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: kind of injury, the level he's playing out right there.

587
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question why he's so successful. You

588
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 1: know in the second half of your game last week,

589
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Speaker 1: you were guys were able to control first down a

590
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Speaker 1: little bit better. Is that a key in this game

591
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Speaker 1: to not allow them to get in second and three,

592
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 1: third and two's I think it makes his team so

593
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: dangerous on offense is the early down success. They run

594
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Speaker 1: the ball and they have a quick passing game that

595
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Speaker 1: gets them ahead of the sticks. Allows him to operate

596
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: with more choices in third down. So first off, it's

597
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Speaker 1: very tough to get him into third down. Secondly, you

598
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 1: want to make sure you put him in third down

599
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Speaker 1: with enough distance on the sticks. They have to go

600
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Speaker 1: ahead and play it with more of a you know,

601
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: throw only mentality where you can go ahead and put

602
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: yourself in position defensively to really attack him. You know,

603
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: you've got to stop the running these guys it all starts,

604
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: and then get a very good offensive line. Zeke polar

605
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: guys running the ball very effectively downhill. They've got great vision.

606
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: They're tough to take down, but you've got to get

607
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Speaker 1: them behind the sticks to really go ahead and they'll

608
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: play aggressive. Final thing, coach, just in doing the TV

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Speaker 1: show with you, special teams is obviously a key component

610
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Speaker 1: of all this, especially in a close game, could be

611
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Speaker 1: the difference in a game like this. I know you

612
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Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for what the Cowboys do.

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Speaker 1: Special teams. Was just talk a little bit about how

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Speaker 1: efficient they are. Yeah, I think you know all the

615
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Speaker 1: multiples that Bones present you with. You know, as a

616
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Speaker 1: special team's coach, he's got a history of fakes and

617
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: they keep very talented specialists, you know, as returners, kickers, putters.

618
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Speaker 1: That enables them do a lot of things, you know,

619
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Speaker 1: with weapons, and you have to really play this team

620
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Speaker 1: with a defensive mentality. That's when you're on return, field,

621
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Speaker 1: goal block or kickoff return, because until that ball is

622
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Speaker 1: fully exchange, you've gotta make sure you get the ball.

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Speaker 1: He's done a great job in his career creating extra

624
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Speaker 1: possessions for their offense, extending drives, you know, and just

625
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Speaker 1: putting you on defensive. One of the things that they've

626
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Speaker 1: been able to do is because everyone plays on such

627
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: a defensive mentality, it puts you more of a passive position,

628
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: and you've got to come into the game him against him,

629
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Speaker 1: and you have to choose how you're gonna play it.

630
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: Make sure your sound, but you've gotta be the aggressor

631
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: in it because if you play passive, it allows their

632
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: coverage to play down the field almost unblocked at times,

633
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: and eliminate your return game. Allows our specialists to perform

634
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: without pressure, and when a punter or kicker doesn't feel

635
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: the force of someone else coming at them, they're all

636
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: gonna be very very efficient and effective. And we got

637
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: to keep them from flipping the field on the punts,

638
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, by making sure that we the opportunity when

639
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: we have returns to maximize you know, the return on it,

640
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: when we have to pressure them to make sure we

641
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Speaker 1: put him in a situation where it can't be a

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Speaker 1: clean punt and field goal wise, keeping pressure on their line.

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Speaker 1: He's a big leg kicker. These guys have specialists that

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Speaker 1: really make the field smaller for them. That makes sense.

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Speaker 1: You know, when their line, you know, gets some range

646
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Speaker 1: for a sixty yard field goal, you know, that's a

647
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Speaker 1: whole lot different than another a lot of other teams

648
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Speaker 1: who have to get in range for called a forty

649
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Speaker 1: five forty eight yard field goal. That's a you know,

650
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Speaker 1: shorter field for them to get points. So you gotta

651
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Speaker 1: do a good job early in the series on defense

652
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Speaker 1: keeping a longer field. That ties into kicking game as well.

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Speaker 1: With field position. You know, you have to create it

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Speaker 1: defenses to keep it, and then you have to go

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Speaker 1: ahead and maximus on offense when you get it. Coach Bust,

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Speaker 1: look you, that's Giants head coach Joe Judge j Giant

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Speaker 1: fans taking all the active New York Giants football from

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Speaker 1: your are in private suite. Giant sweets are a great

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Speaker 1: way to entertain your family and friends while rooting on

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Speaker 1: your Giants right here in MetLife Stadium, speak with the

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Speaker 1: Giant Sweet representative now by calling eight n y G.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna wrap up this episode with a

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Speaker 1: extra long preview with Babe Offenburg, former Cowboys quarterback from

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Speaker 1: the eighties and he's also their radio animals. No one

665
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: knows more about the Cowboys than Babe. Lance Meadow and

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Speaker 1: Paul Detino had a chance to talk to him to

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Speaker 1: give an in depth look at the Giants opponent this week.

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Speaker 1: Baby got Lance Meadow with Paul Detino here. Greatly appreciate

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Speaker 1: the time, hope Paul as well has everything on your head. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, in terms of covering the team probably couldn't

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Speaker 1: be better. They lose the opener to Tampa on the

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Speaker 1: last second vehicle, and you guys are familiar with that

673
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Speaker 1: than one three in a row. Absolutely well speaking that,

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Speaker 1: let's start on the offensive side of the ball because

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Speaker 1: with that unit healthy for the most part, I don't

676
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Speaker 1: think it's very surprising, Babe that they're essentially top ten

677
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Speaker 1: in the NFL and just about every critical category. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think you could overlook the impact Kellen Morris

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Speaker 1: had with his play calling because they throw it fifty

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00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: eight times in the opener against the Bucks. Last three wins,

681
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: they've run it at least thirty one times, and they

682
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: seem to have an answer regardless of how the defense

683
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Speaker 1: is playing them. So how much of how Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: is calling a game has provided them with various options

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Speaker 1: for DAC in the ground attack in the early stages

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Speaker 1: of the season. I will start with the fact that

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Speaker 1: I'm a big Kellen Moore fan that said, it's easier

688
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Speaker 1: to call plays when you have good players, and they

689
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Speaker 1: have a lot of good players on offense, and coming

690
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Speaker 1: into this season, I think the conventional wisdom was the

691
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: offense is going to carry this team and the defense

692
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Speaker 1: just has to be average. If the defense is average,

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Speaker 1: the offense is going to be so good. Provided that

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Speaker 1: caveat that every team has they stay healthy, that they're

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Speaker 1: gonna score a bunch of points. The problem last year,

696
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Speaker 1: well there were many problems last year. Lost offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: lost both tackles for really the entire season Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: as you well know, in in Week five against the

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Speaker 1: Giants for the rest of the season. But the defense

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Speaker 1: was awful. The defense was historically bad, so all they

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Speaker 1: had to do was improved about the mid level defense,

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Speaker 1: and that's kind of been what's happened now. The difference

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Speaker 1: is they've been able to do two things. They've been

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Speaker 1: able to pressure the quarterback and I want to say

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Speaker 1: they've been able to get interceptions, but it's been all

706
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Speaker 1: Treyvon days. I mean, Trevon Diggs has more interceptions than

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Speaker 1: all but two teams, so he has just been outstanding.

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Speaker 1: You know, they have been talking about this offense. It

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Speaker 1: would be very easy to go to Dak Prescott, whose

710
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Speaker 1: first month numbers are absolutely flying off the page. But

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Speaker 1: it was Giants defensive coordinator Patrick Graham who said point

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Speaker 1: blank the other day, Dallas starts with their offensive line

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Speaker 1: and the running game. That's what makes them go. So

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Speaker 1: why don't we start with that. The offensive line more healthy,

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Speaker 1: doing a better job this year, and it looks like

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Speaker 1: Elliott's probably running as well as he ever has. It

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Speaker 1: does start up front. I think that's true for every team.

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Speaker 1: And we talked about play calling there a little bit earlier,

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Speaker 1: and one thing they could not do, Kellen Moore couldn't do.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't really call extended plays you couldn't do anything

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Speaker 1: with the quarterback was holding the ball for over about

722
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Speaker 1: two seconds last year because again they lodged both starting tackles.

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Speaker 1: They were playing a rookie free agent on one side

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Speaker 1: at tackle and on the other side was a rookie

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Speaker 1: free agent from a year ago, So they were they

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Speaker 1: were just limited in terms of what you could call.

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Speaker 1: So you get in as coaches, you go in, You've

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Speaker 1: got all these great plays on the blackboard, right, and

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Speaker 1: he said, man, we can we can attack the defense

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Speaker 1: this way. We can get we can put this guy

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Speaker 1: in the slot, have them run a deep crosser. They're

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Speaker 1: vulnerable on the other side of the field twenty yards deep. Well,

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Speaker 1: guess what your line cannot hold out for your quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: twenty yards deep on the other side of the field.

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Speaker 1: So so much of that play calling I think just

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Speaker 1: goes back to what can we do? What you know,

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Speaker 1: what is our offensive line? What can they do? I

738
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Speaker 1: think the Giants have struggled so much in the red

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Speaker 1: zone because you can't run the ball in there. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City does it with Patrick Mahomes every If you

741
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Speaker 1: have that really special quarterback, you can maybe do things

742
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Speaker 1: a little differently. But I have always found that good

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Speaker 1: teams in the red zone, especially when you get to

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Speaker 1: that low red zone ten yards in you know, first

745
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: and bowl at the eight, you better be able to

746
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Speaker 1: run the football, and the Cowboys have done that. Hey,

747
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Speaker 1: last week, I'm doing the game with our play by

748
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Speaker 1: play guy Brad Shammon. It's third and one. He said,

749
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Speaker 1: what do you got? I said, I got twenty one

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Speaker 1: in the backfield. I'm giving him the ball and they're

751
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: able to handball do Zeke Elliott and they're able to

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Speaker 1: get that yard on third and one at the goal line, right. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of teams can't do that. They have

754
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Speaker 1: to resort to a lot of other things. So again,

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00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: you're exactly right. All starts up front, and they've been

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Speaker 1: good up front on the offensive line, Dave, I want

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Speaker 1: to expand a little bit on the offensive line. One

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Speaker 1: of the guys you were reverencing was Terrence Steele, who's

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Speaker 1: now playing right tackle because Lyle collins is SPA did

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Speaker 1: and then Connor McGovern who filled in for Zack Martin.

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Speaker 1: It seems like they're using him a lot as a

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Speaker 1: fullback to try to grab an extra offensive lineman and

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Speaker 1: put him on the field. So how critical have those

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Speaker 1: two in particular been in terms of their development? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I I think Terence Steele is night and day. And

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Speaker 1: I always have the expression always allow for people to

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Speaker 1: be something other than who you thought they were, And

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Speaker 1: I think that applies to life and sometimes it applies

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Speaker 1: to football. Because if you watched the tape of Terence

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Speaker 1: Steele last year, you would have just said, are we

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Speaker 1: why are we even bringing this guy back? And you

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Speaker 1: watched the tape this year and he went up against

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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa almost exclusively when the Cowboys played the Chargers

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles a week two, and botha didn't get

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Speaker 1: anywhere on him. I mean, he had a couple of

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Speaker 1: good rushes, but for the most part, Terence Steele just

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Speaker 1: stoned him. And that wouldn't have happened last year. So

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Speaker 1: that he has made just tremendous improvement. He got his

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Speaker 1: body better, a little bigger, all that good stuff got

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Speaker 1: in the weight room, which always uh, you know, Lands

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Speaker 1: and Paul, It always amazes me that these guys are

782
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Speaker 1: at Power five conferences, right, they've got weight rooms there,

783
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Speaker 1: But they get to the NFL and you realize, Wow,

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Speaker 1: I better get stronger, and they do. They you know,

785
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Speaker 1: they spend the off season in the weight room and

786
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: sometimes they reshaped their body as he did, and they

787
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: just come back much better players. And that's what he

788
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: has done. And then Tyrn Smith at left tackle. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a future Hall of famer. He is playing great.

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Speaker 1: Uh he played all excuse me, he missed all but

791
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Speaker 1: two games last year. Zack Martin, you certain hall of

792
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: famer over there right guard? He is. I don't know

793
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Speaker 1: if you believe in Pro Football Focus or what. And

794
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot of numbers out there, but it seems

795
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 1: like every week he grades out as high as not

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Speaker 1: just any offensive lineman, but any player in the NFL. Well,

797
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Speaker 1: that doesn't surprise me, babe, because I like them coming

798
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Speaker 1: out of school, big big, like I was shortly years ago.

799
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Speaker 1: Another Dallas guy. I love Shawn Lee. Hey. But let

800
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Speaker 1: me tell you too. You know, Zack Martin was at

801
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Speaker 1: Johnny Man's l pick where they had to basically duct

802
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Speaker 1: tape the Cowboys owner to his chair to not draft

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Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel. So they settled, Okay, I've got it. In quotation,

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00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: Marty settled on Zack Martin In that pick. Pretty good

805
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah, well, I think Steven had a lot

806
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Speaker 1: to do with that. Yeah. I mean I'm not in

807
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: the inner workings of that family, but yes, somebody had

808
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: to talk the owner off the ledge. Uh. Let me

809
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: ask you about Tony Pollard, who we already know in

810
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Speaker 1: spot duty the first couple of years with Dallas, has

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Speaker 1: done some very productive things. It looks like they're working

812
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: him in a little bit more and he's been rather dynamic.

813
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: He's a he's a really good player. And what's interesting

814
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: is I'm sounding like a Homer right because I'm saying

815
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Speaker 1: this guy is playing great. This guy is playing great.

816
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Speaker 1: But they've got a lot of guys playing really good football,

817
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Speaker 1: and Tony Pollard is one of them. Um. You know,

818
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: this is his third year, so the Cowboys will happen

819
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Speaker 1: for another year. But I'm very interested to see when

820
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: he hits the open market in another year because he

821
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: was a fourth round pick. Um, I'm very interested to

822
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Speaker 1: see the market for him because he could be in

823
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Speaker 1: every down, dynamic player. I don't want to put him

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Speaker 1: in the McCaffrey tomorrow class just yet. I mean, he's

825
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: not there, but he's that kind of back where you know,

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Speaker 1: he played a lot of wide receiver at or they

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Speaker 1: kind of used him at Memphis in that role. They

828
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Speaker 1: have that sort of a hybrid role in that Memphis

829
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Speaker 1: offense of slot and running back, and he did a

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Speaker 1: lot of things there and he really does a lot

831
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Speaker 1: of things here for the Cowboys as well. So really

832
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: a dynamic player and capable of the big run. All

833
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: the time we're talking away Babelsberg's former NFL quarterback, color

834
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Speaker 1: analysts of the Cowboys radio network, Babe, you were joking

835
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Speaker 1: about how really we could sit here all day and

836
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: break down the Boys offensive personnel because there's so much.

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Speaker 1: One last point that I want to make though, because

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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting in how they're utilizing them. Is

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Speaker 1: the tight ends you had Blake Jarwin returned from a

840
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: season ending injury, and Dalton Schultz. You look at the numbers,

841
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: he's tied for the team lead with three touchdowns and

842
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: he's got twenty receptions. How effectively are they utilizing the

843
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: tight ends and how much more pressure is that putting

844
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Speaker 1: on opposing defense? Is that just when you think about

845
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: Amorray Cooper and Cede Lamb, you can't forget about the

846
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Speaker 1: guys in the middle, no question, And Dalton Schultz another

847
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: guy who kind of let's put him in the tern

848
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: steel category although he was a draft pick. Believe he

849
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: was a fifth rounder. Um put him in the category

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Speaker 1: of allow for him to be something other than who

851
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: you thought they were. Of course, he was behind Jason

852
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: Witten here for a couple of years and you just

853
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: didn't get a lot of playing time. So consequently nobody said, wow,

854
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: that don't show it's really good because he just wasn't

855
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: getting on the field a bunch. Blake Jarwin was going

856
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: to be the starter, was the starter last year. He

857
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: gets hurt in the first quarter of the first game.

858
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz is, as they say, pressed into action, and

859
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: then the guy has a great year. So they have

860
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: a they have a really good one to punch that

861
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: with with Schultz and Blake Darwin. Again it's again I

862
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: sound like a broken record here. I mean they have

863
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: players literally at every position. There's nothing offensively that they

864
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: don't do well. They can run it, they can throw it,

865
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: they can throw it to the back, they can throw

866
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: it to the wide receivers, and they can throw it

867
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: to the tight end. So I mean they're handful for

868
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: a defense. Well, when you have that kind of personnel. Babe,

869
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback is going to have a lot of help

870
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a lot of reasons why he

871
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: can be doing really, really well. But you, as a quarterback,

872
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: could you tell me specifically what you see from Dak

873
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: Prescott this year that may be different from what he's

874
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: done in the past. Well, I have to clarify first off.

875
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: You know, you say, hey, you were a quarterback, and

876
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: yes I was. But we were playing Tampa Cowboys in

877
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: the opening this year, right the Thursday night game, and

878
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: somebody said, well, babe, tell me what Tom Brady is

879
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: doing because you play quarterback. And I said, well, whoa

880
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: we wait a minute, I I kind of I was.

881
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: I think they painted in grade school, but I didn't

882
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: paint the system chapel, so those, let's say, two different paints. Uh.

883
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: Dak is playing at a level that I'm unfamiliar with,

884
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. But he again, he just is.

885
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: He's just on it. And uh, and hey, I credit

886
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. You know, obviously he was here in Dak's

887
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: formative years, if you will, and people kind of forget,

888
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: you know. Now he's a hundred and sixty million dollar

889
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: quarterback right he was a fourth round pick who was

890
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: going to be the third string quarterback his rookie season.

891
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: Tony Romo gets hurt, Kellen Moore gets hurt, Dac is

892
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: again pressed into service, and he was thirteen and three,

893
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: And I think Jason Garrett was a big part of

894
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: why they had that type of success. Now again they

895
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: were able to run the ball. That was Zeke Elliott's

896
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: first year as well. That was pretty good draft. They

897
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: got Zeke him Dak out of the same draft. Zeke

898
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: obviously at the top of the fourth pick, uh and

899
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: then back in the fourth round. So pretty pretty good

900
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: draft right there. But he's just playing at at a

901
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 1: really high level, throwing the ball extremely accurately. Um probably

902
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: not as big a threat to run. But there are

903
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: two players he made last week against Carolina, worn on

904
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: a bad snap, one on a little shovele, and he

905
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: picks up fifteen on each of them. So his running

906
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: is a little bit more restricted. I think he's just

907
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: more prudent about don't need to expose myself. But yeah,

908
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: he's he's playing really about as well as any quarterback

909
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm seeing out there. And Babe, with the way the

910
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: offense is performing. You could argue that they've helped out

911
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: the defense because turnovers early last season, I would argue

912
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: put the defense and it pre carry a spot that

913
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: hasn't been the case. You reference the play of Trayvon Diggs.

914
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: I think it's only appropriate that the other player worth

915
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: highlighting on defense is this year's first round pick, Michael Parsons,

916
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: and they really seem to be moving him around unfortunately

917
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: due to injuries, and he seems to be thriving in

918
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: his various roles. How impressed have you been made within

919
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: a small sample size thus far, how well Michael Parsons

920
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: has played, and how well he's adapted to what they've

921
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: been asking him to do. Huh? In answer to your question,

922
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: extremely impressed. Um, here's a guy too. He opted out

923
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: last year at Penn State, and he only had thirteen

924
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: starts at Penn State. So this was not a guy

925
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: who was a three year starter, had forty five games

926
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: under his belt, and now you're asking to really play

927
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: two positions. He has played defensive end, which he did

928
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: in Week two against the Chargers exclusively at defensive end,

929
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: and then he's back, he's done a hybrid. He's playing

930
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: some d ND, some linebacker Randy Gregory was out with Covid,

931
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: who was a defensive end. They had a couple of injuries,

932
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, the defensive ends, so they moved them

933
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: up and then moved back. Ordinarily, that was spinning guy's

934
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: head right. As a rookie twenty one years old, you

935
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: haven't played football in a year, and you only have

936
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: thirteen starts as a collegian under your belt, and now

937
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: we're moving, we're moving your two positions. But he's handled

938
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: all of it, and he's a really gosh, he's just

939
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: such an athletic player. I mean, I think he ran

940
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: four four and just stuff where you just don't see it.

941
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: A lot loves football, you can just tell. Uh. Matter

942
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: of fact, the preseason he was getting about, oh gosh,

943
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: twenty snaps, twenty five snaps, and he's over there clamoring

944
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: for the defensive coordinator put him in. I want to play.

945
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: I want to play, and they're like, hey, they'll be.

946
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: We have seventeen of these things coming during a regular

947
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: season and hopefully a couple at the end of the season.

948
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: You will have plenty of playing times. So he's been

949
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: he's really been good. Though it may be appropriate babe

950
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: that you just mentioned the words defensive coordinator, because I wonder,

951
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: even though Parsons and Trevon Diggs are getting much of

952
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: the early season headlines from that defensive unit, I gotta

953
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: think that dan Quinn has made probably more of a

954
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: difference than any one person to help that d out.

955
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: And it's interesting mentioned dan Quinn because if you look

956
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: at what they did in Atlanta, his defenses outside of

957
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: the Super all year, we're not even top fifteen. Um.

958
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: You know, in the year he got fired, they were

959
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: owing five and man, they were just they were a

960
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: messed defensively. So a matter of fact, the Cowboys against

961
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: Atlanta the year he was fired, I think they played

962
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: him in week three he got fired. Five games and

963
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: they put up like five hundred and seventy yards and

964
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: thirty three first downs against that defense. Now, ordinarily you

965
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: don't look, you don't have a game like that and say, gosh,

966
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's any way we get a hold

967
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: of that defensive coordinator. But but here he comes, and

968
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how impressed I've been with him.

969
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: Just again, when he put my Comparsons in week two

970
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: at defensive end. Uh, I just thought that's this is

971
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: a kid that hasn't played, and on and on and

972
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: then he did it. So they're getting so much out

973
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: of their players. And I really thought the Giants last year,

974
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: I really loved that defense they were. They were great

975
00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: in the red zone and believe you guys, when the

976
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: two in the red zone scoring defensively. And I just

977
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: thought that the pickups that they had with Blake Martinez,

978
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: you guys are well aware from Bradbury. Uh back row

979
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: was over there, and I just thought every pickup was

980
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: really playing well. Uh the Cowboys last year, every pickup

981
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: veteran guy did not pan out. Um it was. It

982
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: was really pretty awful, right John Terry Poe was cut

983
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: mid season. Alden Smith he had three good games and

984
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: then he just disappeared. Ha ha. Clinton Dix got released

985
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: basically a training camp. So all the veteran players that

986
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 1: they thought they were going to show up the defense

987
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: with none of them panned out this year. I could

988
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: go through the list of them, but Can O'Neil and

989
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: Demonte Casey and Malee Cooker and all these guys, they've

990
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 1: all panned out. They've hit on. Almost every veteran guy

991
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: has come in and played really well. So I think

992
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: that's credit to Dan Quinn there, because obviously he was

993
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: a guy trying to target some of these players. A

994
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: matter of fact, two of them, Gian O'Neill and demonte Kzy,

995
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: both starters right now, played for him in Atlanta last year.

996
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: That continuity factor certainly helps. Before we let you go,

997
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: speaking of player transactions, one of the big headlines this

998
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: week was the fact that the Cowboys decided to part

999
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: ways with linebacker Jalen Smith, who obviously was a former

1000
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: draft pick. He hasn't been playing as much as he

1001
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: did in previous seasons. You reference Kian O'Neil. They also

1002
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: have Jabrille Cox, this year's fifth round pick. How much

1003
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: does the Dynamics now change in terms of the usage

1004
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: of personnel with Jalen Smith no longer in the picture. Well,

1005
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: that was an interesting release, and I think everybody thought

1006
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be here next year. But hey, Sunday he

1007
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: played about thirty snaps against Carolina. He was a captain.

1008
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: So as I left the stadium on Sunday after the

1009
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: Carolina game, if somebody walked up to me and say, hey,

1010
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll bet you they released Jalen Smith

1011
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, I would have said I'll take that bet.

1012
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: So to day night, where you know a matter of factor.

1013
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: Friend text didn't said Wow, what about Jalen? I said,

1014
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: texted back, what about him? He said, I just got released?

1015
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: So I was like what. So it was it was

1016
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: an interesting decision, but yeah, you you could just see

1017
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: his his playing time was really going to diminish. And

1018
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: Ken O'Neill has has missed a couple of games with COVID.

1019
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: He's back in. His playing time was going to be

1020
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: more reduced. And the big thing was there was an

1021
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: injury clause in his contract that if he didn't pass

1022
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: the physical march, so if he got hurt, if something

1023
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: God forbid me, whatever it was, which obviously he had

1024
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: a a beyond severe knee injury coming out of college.

1025
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: There are cowboys will be on the hook next year

1026
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: for nine million, and they just did not want to

1027
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: take that chance. Final one for me, babe. John Fossil

1028
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: special teams coordinator, one of the more innovative and brilliant

1029
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: speed and special teams guys in this league. We all

1030
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: know that Joe Judge has that great special teams background

1031
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: with the Giants. How fun will it be to watch

1032
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: the special team gamesmanship on Sunday. Well, it is funny

1033
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: because ordinarily it's almost like for a lot of people,

1034
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: it's like an intentional walk anymore, right, like if they're

1035
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: walking again, intention let me run up and grab a

1036
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: hot talk, and it's like specialty here comes upon. Okay,

1037
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: let's let's go up and you know, use the restroom

1038
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: or grab a soda or whatever it is. And now

1039
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, who knows what these two do? And

1040
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: I remember last year Joe Judge Rana fake what was

1041
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: a fake pun or field goal I can't remember which

1042
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. It worked, but then they were fake

1043
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: punt and then they got penalized on it. And the

1044
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: Fossil is the same way, He's liable to do anything.

1045
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: Um John Fossil, who, by the way, I played for

1046
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: his father, believe it or not. Well, the connections are

1047
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: across the board. In the National Football League, the late

1048
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: great Jim Fossil will also coached the New York Giants

1049
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: and help them obviously get to the Super Bowl. Followed

1050
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: the two thousand Seeds. But my fears, guys, you know

1051
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: my fears. Did you watch the Seattle Los Angeles ram

1052
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: scheme on third to stay right. See the double punt.

1053
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: I did see that, yep. With Michael takes one of

1054
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: these guys that's gonna see that and say, hey, let's

1055
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: incorporate that into our into our little special teams. And

1056
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: I hope somebody's in the room to say, you know,

1057
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: that was all cute and spun and everybody loved it.

1058
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: But let's let's not do that. Yeah, let's not try

1059
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: to have an intentional block. So you kick it twice? Well,

1060
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: said he. Babel Offenburg, former ant a quarterback color analysts

1061
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys Radio Network, does great work. Is always Babe.

1062
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: Can't thank you enough. We greatly appreciate the time of

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Speaker 1: Thanks Babe, Thank you you guys, stay safe. We thank

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Speaker 1: Babe Loffenberg for joining us, very good information from him,

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Speaker 1: and we thank the rest of our guests that we

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Speaker 1: heard from today, including Hey go to the Giants, Joe

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Speaker 1: Judge w joins us every week on the Giants Huddle.

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Speaker 1: We talked to defensive end for the Cowboys, throw bash him,

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Speaker 1: fun spot with him, and finally, rookie wide receiver for

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Speaker 1: the Giants their first round pick in one Cadarius Tony

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Speaker 1: don't forget. You can find the Giant Subtle Podcast on

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Speaker 1: all your favorite podcast platforms, on the Giants Mobile app

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Speaker 1: and the Giants dot Com slash podcast. The jihnts Huttle

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Speaker 1: Feed is also the home of the All in n

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Speaker 1: y G podcast, presented by PNC Private Bank, which of

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Speaker 1: course celebrates the Giants championship in Super Bowl forty six.

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Speaker 1: It's the ten year anniversary. Make sure you go check

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Speaker 1: that out. We have great long form conversations between teammates

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Speaker 1: on that team. You won't hear from me, no host.

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Speaker 1: It's just the players chatting with one another. It's it's

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Speaker 1: really a lot of fun. Make sure you go check

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Speaker 1: it out. Enjoy the game this weekend. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: next time on the Giants Huddle