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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Buck Brief. On this episode, Rob Smith joins us, My buddy,

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Speaker 1: He is the host of Can't Cancel Rob Smith, which

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Speaker 1: still true because he's here and he has not been canceled.

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Speaker 1: So there you go, the unique selling proposition of your

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Speaker 1: program so far, Rob accurate in that you have not

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Speaker 1: been canceled. Good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you too, brother, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Yea, let's start with uh so Rob is a gay

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Speaker 1: black man as well as a concern? Do you still

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Speaker 1: self describe as conservative?

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Speaker 2: I describe as more of a right leaning independent, you know,

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Speaker 2: also a veteran as well for the news folks that

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Speaker 2: may not be familiar with me, but I identify right

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Speaker 2: now as pretty much a right leaning independent. Will never

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Speaker 2: be a lib, will never be a Democrat, will never

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Speaker 2: ever ever be on the left the AG. I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people are kind of confused about that

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Speaker 2: when I get a little critical of folks on our

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Speaker 2: side of the aisle.

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Speaker 1: So, because what I want to ask you about was

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Speaker 1: last year. This time, it's Pride Month everybody. And Rob

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Speaker 1: used to used to have a line on the show

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Speaker 1: he was America's favorite black gay veteran, right, I think,

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Speaker 1: wasn't that well?

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Speaker 2: No, I used to call myself when I first started

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Speaker 2: doing all this stuff. He used called myself America's favorite

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Speaker 2: black gay Republican.

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Speaker 1: Which black a Republican? Okay, well that we can say

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Speaker 1: black gay veteran. Now there we go. But Pride Month

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Speaker 1: a year ago was it felt like it was everywhere

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Speaker 1: and it was a very aggressive messaging campaign from the

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Speaker 1: corporate side. Yeah, it feels like things are different this year.

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Speaker 1: What do you what's your sense of that?

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Speaker 2: It does feel like things are different this year. There's

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Speaker 2: a whole lot going on, Buck and I've actually become

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Speaker 2: much more interested than this in this, you know, as

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Speaker 2: somebody from the rights out of the aisle that really

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Speaker 2: thinks about conservatives, you know, infiltrating different spaces right, particularly corporations.

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Speaker 2: So there are some very very strong and very powerful

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Speaker 2: right leaning platforms, particularly on X and I think of

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Speaker 2: libs of TikTok right and so now when these corporations

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Speaker 2: get too much into the prie propaganda and a lot

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Speaker 2: of people don't understand. What I really want to break

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Speaker 2: down here is that like pride propaganda is not about

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Speaker 2: the average gay and lesbian American. That is not who

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Speaker 2: it's about. It's really about sort of like the far

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Speaker 2: left TQ fringe that's pushing this political ideology on people

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Speaker 2: that the vast majority of people just are not inligned with.

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Speaker 2: So last year, in the years leading up to last year,

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Speaker 2: I would say over the past five to ten years,

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Speaker 2: there's just been an onslaught of these corporations shoving pride

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Speaker 2: propaganda down people's throats. Now, what started to happen was

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Speaker 2: that conservatives started getting a larger and larger voice on

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Speaker 2: social media. Then you have like you said, but like

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Speaker 2: me or like the lips of TikTok or somebody else

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Speaker 2: that is saying, hey, we don't particularly have an issue

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Speaker 2: with and lesbian Americans, but what we don't want is

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Speaker 2: TQ plus fringe propaganda shoved down our throats by corporations. Now,

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Speaker 2: corporations started to follow suit. There's obviously the biggest example

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Speaker 2: of backlash was the bud Light Dylan Mulvaney thing. So

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Speaker 2: Dylan Mulvaney was this this fum trans influencer that did

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Speaker 2: this deal with bud Light. Conservatives were outraged. It caused

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Speaker 2: a huge problem with bud Light. They lost a whole

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Speaker 1: Isn't it fair to say, though, It's not like Dylan

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Speaker 1: Budweiser or budd Light. I mean Budweiser, like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's just you know what's next, Bass pro Shops. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it just didn't seem like a good fit from anyone's perspective.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. And so conservatives were outraged about this,

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Speaker 2: and so now is corporations decide that they don't want

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Speaker 2: that backlash, you know, they don't want that smoke from

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Speaker 2: a lot of the very influential conservatives online. So now

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Speaker 2: have the the pride flags that everybody saw you know,

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Speaker 2: for years and years and years, but they won't have

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Speaker 2: what they call the quote unquote progress flag, which is

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Speaker 2: this super you know, far left TQ agenda flag with

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Speaker 1: And is there rob from from within the community? Is

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Speaker 1: there discussion of you know, Pride flag people marching or

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Speaker 1: you know Pride parade rather people marching you know, loud tech.

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Speaker 1: I like techno music. Like loud techno music great, Like

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Speaker 1: you know, doing the celebration stuff great, But the sometime

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Speaker 1: the like dancing in leather thongs with like a choke

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Speaker 1: you see, is there any sense that like sometimes New York,

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Speaker 1: I mean I've seen this. I'm not just like I've

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Speaker 1: And some of the stuff you see is a little like, ah,

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Speaker 1: I think people should be doing this stuff in public necessarily,

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Speaker 1: but it's not illegal. But it's like, is there a

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Speaker 1: conversation about toning it down a little bit.

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Speaker 2: The conversation about toning it down has started. Now, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm one of the chief people that's sort of like

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Speaker 2: avigating for all of this stuff, and it's still a

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Speaker 2: very unpopular conversation within that subset of the population. They

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Speaker 2: don't want to hear anybody telling them to tone anything

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Speaker 2: down because they'll pretend that they fought for decades for

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Speaker 2: the rights to you know, march in leather, you know,

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Speaker 2: next to kids, or to be in puppy mass or

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Speaker 2: all the weird fetish stuff that's going on.

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Speaker 1: Right, there's some weird stuff.

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Speaker 2: There's weird fetish stuff going on. They're very hesitant and

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Speaker 2: they're very resistant to the messaging. But but look buck like,

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Speaker 2: at some point, normal regular old gay lesbian Americans who

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Speaker 2: fought for our rights to basically just exist. Basically what

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Speaker 2: we said is we're just like everybody else, Like we're there, okay,

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Speaker 2: and we were there about a decade ago. Everything else

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Speaker 2: that has happened since then is this lunatic fringe that

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Speaker 2: Americans that are just normal, regular tax paying we pay

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Speaker 2: too much taxes, just like every other American. But we're

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Speaker 2: basically saying that guys, tone it down. Enough is enough,

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Speaker 2: And it's not a popular message right now, but I

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Speaker 1: Let's let's talk nextly about the black community.

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Speaker 2: Rob. You go, well, we're twenty.

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Speaker 1: Look man, you know, I feel like while I've got

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Speaker 1: the eye perspective, because there's the polling about Trump in

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Speaker 2: Rob.

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Speaker 1: I have a bet with Clay. He says more than

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Speaker 1: twenty five percent of black men are going to vote

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Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. I say that would be great, but

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Speaker 1: no way, who's right?

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Speaker 2: Uh let me see, twenty five percent is large? Okay.

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Speaker 2: I think that you're right. I think that it's a

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Speaker 2: it's kind of a no way. And so when we

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Speaker 2: talk about this Trump and the black community thing, and

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Speaker 2: this is very it makes me unpopular sometimes sort of

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Speaker 2: like in our conservative media sphere, because this is what

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Speaker 2: I always have to say about it. So I was

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Speaker 2: on the campaign trill for Trump in twenty twenty. I

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Speaker 2: was a part of a coalition like one of the

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Speaker 2: the I don't want to say I did any group coalitions,

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Speaker 2: but I was on in one of the coalitions for Trump,

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Speaker 2: and I was on the campaign trill right, Like, I

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Speaker 2: I was doing all the stuff. And in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: Trump had the Platinum Plan. Trump had like this actual

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Speaker 2: policy ideas that he wanted to institute for the black community.

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Speaker 2: He's doing a whole whole lot. You know what happened

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, bucks nine percent of black voters overall

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Speaker 2: was crazy to me until I actually crunched the numbers.

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Speaker 2: So when I see this conversation in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: of this says, oh my god, Trump is doing so

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Speaker 2: great among black people. These polls are saying this, this

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Speaker 2: is going to be twenty thirty, forty fifty percent. I

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Speaker 2: because I have to say, look, you know, in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: we thought this as well, and it just didn't happen

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Speaker 2: for whatever reasons. Right, I think that what a lot

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Speaker 2: of people don't talk about when it comes to the

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Speaker 2: black vote is that black mail vote is really what

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Speaker 2: they're going for. And that is one thing that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people really don't break it down because black

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Speaker 2: women are just highly unlikely to vote for Trump. So

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Speaker 2: what really talking about is working class black men. That

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Speaker 2: number in twenty twenty was about eighteen percent. Do I

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Speaker 2: see that going up to twenty five percent? I think

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Speaker 2: that that's aggressive. I think that you could probably get

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Speaker 2: that specific number of black men up to about twenty

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Speaker 2: to twenty two percent. But when we talk about the

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Speaker 2: overall black vote, like, let's really break that down, and

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Speaker 2: let's really talk about who we're talking about here, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about black men.

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Speaker 1: What could Trump do? What should he do to get

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Speaker 1: that number as high as he possibly can?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Honestly, to tell you the truth, Buck, I don't

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Speaker 2: think that he does any more than what is already

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Speaker 2: being done. Right. I think that visually going to these

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Speaker 2: communities that he went to. I think that there was

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Speaker 2: just an event in Detroit over the weekend, like he

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Speaker 2: had gone to a black church there, he had went

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Speaker 2: to the quote unquote hood. I personally don't like it

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Speaker 2: because it rubs me the wrong way in a couple

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Speaker 2: different reasons. But we'll just say that he went to

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Speaker 2: a lower income black community in sat that I am

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Speaker 1: Rob give me some insights, some predictions on is Biden

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