1 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: Take a deep breath in through your nose. Hold it now, 2 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: release slowly again deep in heale hold release, repeating internally 3 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: to yourself as you can to my voice. I am deeply, 4 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: deeply well. I I am deeply well. I am deeply wow. 5 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply Well Podcast. Hi, 6 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: welcome to Deeply Well. I'm Debbie Brown and this is 7 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: your soft place to land on your journey. A podcast 8 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: for those that are curious, creative, and ready to expand 9 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: in higher consciousness and self care. This is where we heal, 10 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: this is where we become. Welcome to the show. Today's 11 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: show is going to be I can already feel it 12 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: in utter delight. We are going to be talking about 13 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: a sacred science, a deep, deep wisdom tradition rooted in 14 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: the stars that has been such a gorgeous guide and 15 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: companion on my path with one of the most phenomenal 16 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: astrologers living on this earth. Today, I have a very 17 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: special guest, my friend Daryl Gaines, who is an internationally 18 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: celebrated astrologer who has been working with the magic of 19 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: the stars for decades, guiding and informing people about their 20 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: destiny for decades and he's an absolutely mind blowing storyteller, 21 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: so I can't wait to bring all of this to life. 22 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: And a little background on Darryl, but over twenty years, 23 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: Daryl has been sharing astrological perspectives and wisdom to help 24 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: his clients better relate to the experience of their lives. 25 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: Darryl's Deep Insights offer awareness and clarity to help you 26 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: navigate through life's ups and downs, covering issues related to 27 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: health and wellness, relationships, family, career finances, ancestors and traditions, 28 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: and your life's purpose and so much more. His readings 29 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: examine what you were born with, where you've been, where 30 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: you are in the present, and how to manage the 31 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: weather of your future. This knowledge helps you move through 32 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: the world with more confidence and a stronger sense of 33 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: free will, well prepared for the path ahead of you. 34 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: Darryl's expertise is internationally celebrated and has been featured in 35 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: New York Magazine, Los Angeles Times, and Entertainment Weekly, as 36 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: well as on the BBC, MSNBC, The Sally Kirkland Show, 37 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: Extra TV, and Access Hollywood. His clients include award winning 38 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: artists and film, tele tlevision, music, and the arts of 39 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: experience rave about Darryl's support and guidance in their lives. 40 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 41 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: I think it's so good to be here. Thank you, 42 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: dev Thank you for having me. What an introduction. 43 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you my friend I had you know, 44 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of having my first reading with 45 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: you a couple of years ago. And you know something 46 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: I've shared on the show, I am such a deep lover, 47 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: admire and always in deep reverence of astrology as truly 48 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: a sacred tool for our lives. I've been and study 49 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: with it for a while. So you know, there's there's 50 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: things that maybe I'll unpack on another show, especially for 51 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: those that are a little like what does that mean? 52 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: You know, there's for some people this is new territory, 53 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: but this is thousands of one, thousands of years old. 54 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you know you're innate essence speaks volumes for 55 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: that sacred spiritual science set is astrology. When I looked 56 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: at your chart, I said, dear Universe, she's telling me 57 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: exactly what she's supposed to be doing. Ah. That element 58 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: of astrology and the astrologers have to be very careful 59 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: because we can start speaking a language. That's why when 60 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: I have a session. If you go to a movie, 61 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: when you explain the movie, you explain how it made 62 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: you feel. You don't talk about the camera and the 63 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: technical piece. And that's something that including myself, I can 64 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: be guilty of speaking that language, but we really want 65 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: to bring it down to energy those points. And when 66 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: I saw your chart, the lower form of the mind 67 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: in the place of the higher form, higher consciousness, and 68 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: a purpose in this life to bring awareness broadcasting at 69 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: five hundred million watts, and you're living your purpose. And 70 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: look where you are now, as you said in an introduction, 71 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: where am I now? That energy at birth that planet 72 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: forgive me. You're honest, is sitting right on the point 73 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: of your purpose in this lifetime. You're here, We're here. 74 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: How beautiful. Thank you, Thank you. 75 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: And it's difficult, it's challenging sometimes it may be, but 76 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: it is a life of service because in this life 77 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: we either serve or we suffer. 78 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on. I want to repeat 79 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: what you just said because I know I know people 80 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: listening said, ooh, you either serve or you suffer. Something 81 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: that I speak to a lot, especially when I'm doing 82 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: work with groups around purpose is purpose is an extricably 83 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: linked with service. You are not living your purpose. You 84 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: are not if you're just being celebrated, if you're just 85 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: being validated, if you have the premier title of this 86 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: or that you are only living purpose if you are 87 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: also in service, using your gifts and skills in service 88 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: to the greater good. That was so gorgeous. 89 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: And there you are with the sun ruling your chart place, 90 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: not in a sort of immature way of look at me, 91 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: look at me, but look at me so that you 92 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: can shine, because I'm shining, so that we all can shine. 93 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 2: Because all that light that you bring, all of that 94 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: water to bring the nourishing, because you know you've been 95 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: here before and you've come into this existence to nourish. 96 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: What a gift for me to be able to do that. 97 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: Thank you. 98 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: And that's why astrology resonates because you know, if I 99 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: were to get six astrologers at a table, they would 100 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: very well think that maybe you are an astrologer, because 101 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: that that signature point of awareness. Because with awareness, there's understanding. 102 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: There's awareness of our health, there's awareness of our education. 103 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: Our physical body when it's time and it tells the time, 104 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: and that energy and it's it's it's it's because there 105 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: are no accidents, there are no you know that that 106 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: energy of awareness, this very moment, for the first time 107 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: and nearly two hundred and fifty years, we've returned two Aquarius, 108 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: the most powerful energy of transformation, of taking the collective. 109 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: We are now crossing that bridge into the most higher 110 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: consciousness and humanity I feel, and for you to be 111 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: a purveyor, for you to be the spokesperson the aesthetic, 112 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: the beautiful esthetic, but also a deep, deep soul. 113 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: I am honored, my friend. Thank you for those reflections. 114 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: But I want to talk about you. Oh you are 115 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: fascinating to me, Darryl Gaines in so many ways. One 116 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: because I am gratefully a client of yours and enjoy 117 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: the power of the way you bring this work into 118 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: the world, and just kind of taking you all and 119 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: really being an observation of like, let's look at the 120 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: fibers of how you become you. I would love if 121 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 1: we can try before we we have so much to 122 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: talk about, so before we get into some of the 123 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: bigger things happening in the stars. You know, I think 124 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: of someone like you who has this just profound gift, 125 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: and then I think of you know what it takes 126 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: to bring a gift like that actually to life, right, 127 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: Like when people are living their purpose, when they're living 128 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: in their gifts, when they have the courage, especially to 129 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: do non tradition quote unquote non traditional things in times 130 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: where they aren't popular. I admire that in people, and 131 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: so knowing you know some of what I know in 132 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: your life. You're a black man raised in Pittsburgh, coming 133 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: of age around the seventies and eighties, and coming into 134 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: this really massive gift that you have doing something that, 135 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: if we're clear, is not really understood, especially in those times, 136 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: by the black community, by many, by really any communities 137 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: at that time. Absolutely, how did you How did you 138 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: first connect to astrology and know that that was one 139 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: of the vessels of your purpose and your gifts. 140 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: It was very challenging because of growing up in that 141 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: collective consciousness at that time. Yes, and as we well know, 142 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: it's gotten so much better. I love that. The kids 143 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: today they're on it. Yeah, they're so on it. But 144 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: that said, it was very very challenging because it wasn't accepted. 145 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: I came from a very religious household. They thought that 146 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: this belief system was that of a darkness, yes, And 147 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: although I didn't agree with my family's belief system, I 148 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 2: had that mindset of being a naysayer. Oh that astrology, 149 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: it's nonsense. This is me at fourteen. But the moment 150 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 2: that I start living my innate essence of curiosity and 151 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: wanting to understand, to be curious, but also to care 152 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 2: and to be aware, and trying to figure out why 153 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: am I so different? Why do I have? What is it? 154 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: Why do I have to be this eighteen year old 155 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: kid who goes through the Soviet Union before you know, 156 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: when it was very closed, and then traveling through your 157 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: finding an astrologer who says, oh, you're going to bring 158 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: this back to a spiritual science, a spirit and I 159 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: and I said no because I was afraid of ego. 160 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: Why would you put that on me? She says no, 161 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: And then as she delineated my chart, I couldn't. I couldn't. 162 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: You know you can't. There was no way that I 163 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: could fight the truth. There was such healing in my 164 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: first session as an adolescent, because again being in an 165 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: environment that was diametric opposed to who I am a 166 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: piece of who I am a piece so and from 167 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: then I started studying, I came back to New York, 168 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: I started taking classes. I had many mentors, but every 169 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: mentor every instructor would say, yes, study the foundation. But 170 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: your gift is that energy that I spoke previously, that's 171 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: in your chart, that energy of bringing awareness and taking 172 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: some of those challenges of being different and being okay. 173 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: Because the beauty of when I look at a chart 174 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: is you see a person as they are, and even 175 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: with the challenges of people who with my lack of 176 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: maturity of thinking they were against me. But once you 177 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: look at the chart, there's forgiveness. 178 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, hold on, Oh I want to sit 179 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: in this part. I want to sit in this part 180 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: because you know, the way we've kind of been expressing 181 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: astrology in a way that I think for the people 182 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: that are connected to their charts, a lot of the 183 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: ways we first begin to use it is to really 184 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: get clear feedback on who we are, the things that 185 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: we are sensing inside, and then getting the validation of yeah, 186 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: actually that is your intended path or yes, that is 187 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: your gift, or you know, it's a way to really 188 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: connect to mission, to purpose, to an ability to move forward. 189 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: But the piece that has been monumental to my life 190 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: is what you're speaking to right now, which is using 191 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: astrology as a shadow guide as well. Yes, using astrology 192 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: as a tool of healing some of the traumas. Can 193 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: you speak to absolutely how that dynamic happens, Like what 194 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: is the healing that comes through when you kind of 195 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: sit with and investigate those patterns and themes that show 196 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: up in your birth chart. 197 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: Well, and I want to preface it that we're not 198 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: making an excuse for perhaps bad behavior. Yes, yeah, we're 199 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: bringing understanding. It's that element of forgive them for they 200 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: do not know what they are doing, but we also 201 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: want to make them aware and if they so choose, 202 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: they so choose. But we also have to forgive because 203 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: it allows some of that trauma to be healed. It's 204 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: a process. It's a process through the cycles. We all 205 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: as we go around through the cycles and ultimately DEVI 206 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: we walk in each other's shoes every two and a 207 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: half years. We go through a subconscious That's what the 208 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: moon is. The moon represents our subconscious tapping in to 209 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: what lies beneath. That's why when I do a chart, 210 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: I always immediately look at the moon and I look 211 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: at its relationships with the energy of Pluto, transformation. That's 212 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: psychotherapy one oh one, and that's why I have a 213 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: few There are apists who send their clients just to 214 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: get an understanding and then they can work once they 215 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: know those key points. That said, we have an opportunity 216 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: to walk in each other's shoes because we go through 217 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 2: a lunar cycle every two and a half years, and 218 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: with awareness, this forgiveness not making excuses, no. 219 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: But I think it also it gives you a view 220 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: that makes sometimes, depending on the circumstances, is very individual 221 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: for each of us, but it gives you the ability 222 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: to not take some of the challenges in your life 223 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: so personally, to not feel like maybe there was an 224 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: agenda against you, or how do these things happen to you? Sometimes? 225 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: You know, I know, for me, there were certain moments 226 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: in my life that seemed just so incredibly irrationally absurdly 227 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: profoundly hard, challenging, painful, And when I kind of dive 228 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: into my chart and I'm looking at it from more 229 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: of an observational lens, less judgment, it's kind of like, oh, 230 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: that was always meant to happen, you know, not in 231 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: a way that I'm trying to minimize some of the 232 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: deeper things that we go through. But at a certain 233 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: point you can zoom out and say, I see the 234 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 1: story being told. I understand that there was something that 235 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: had to be a catalyst for this to be unlocked. Unfortunately, 236 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: in the time it had to come in that way. However, 237 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: that was just the theme that in my belief I 238 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: signed up for before I came, right, you know, for 239 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: those that believe in reincarnation and believe even this kind 240 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 1: of divine dance we're doing with God of coming and 241 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: learning and then serving, it's it allows you to see 242 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: some of the pain points in your chart with a 243 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: lot more loving kindness, a lot more neutrality. 244 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, And with your chart again because it's vibrating 245 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 2: very visibly and even though sometimes emotionally, I mean, you're 246 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 2: you're showing up so vividly present, but so much and 247 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: many times different cycles you want to be vividly and 248 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: not vividly, not present at all. 249 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: Right, But yeah, that's me. I'm like, the deepest part 250 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: of me always wants to be a hermit, Like I 251 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: just want to be at home surrounded by beauty, creating things, 252 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: but just kind of being to myself. 253 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 2: But you were given the responsibility of being vividly present 254 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: with boundaries. I won't go into the astrological diagnosis of that, 255 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: but the energies in your chart and how those energies 256 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 2: form relationships. Is a person who has a lot of 257 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: responsibility to heal, but also to set boundaries to protect 258 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: that need because your energy comes that power comes from silence, 259 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: because true power is quiet, ultimately right. 260 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: So let's I want to take a trip to New York. Okay, 261 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: So you have such a fascinating life, Daryl Gaines, like, 262 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: I hope the autobiography is coming at some point because 263 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: the stories, the experience is one of the many really 264 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: fascinating experiences in your life. Is you helped to develop 265 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: Soul Cycle? 266 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 2: Yes, I was the first male instructor because I was 267 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 2: discovered here in Los Angeles and they brought me side 268 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: unseen to New York. Back to New York. I didn't 269 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 2: want to go back because I left New York to 270 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 2: come out to LA for this idea of combining astrology 271 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: with health and wellness astro fitness, and it was wonderful 272 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: and it was accepted as far as me knocking on doors. 273 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: I have this idea, but where was I at that time? 274 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: I wasn't believing enough to follow through, or perhaps for 275 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: whatever reason I didn't. But the point about soul cycle, 276 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: it was a piece of understanding energy and how do 277 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: you use it and to take because when I look 278 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: at the chart, what I see is a beautiful composition, 279 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: a beautiful piece of music. The universe is perfect. Sometimes 280 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 2: we like to fall back on what is negative. Mercury's 281 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: retrograde Saturn is at odds with my moon for six months. Okay, 282 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 2: check and little the guy's falling. The truth of the 283 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 2: matter is it's so perfectly orchestrated to make us aware 284 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: we're the ones who are singing or we're dancing, not 285 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: to the beat. Astrology with this awareness, gets us perfect pitch, 286 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: perfect pitch. And that's not sugarcoating a challenging cycle, but 287 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: just fundamental parts of maturity. You have to pause, you 288 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 2: have to go back to move forward sometimes yeah yeah. 289 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 2: And the way the planets move, it's so beautifully orchestrated. 290 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: And getting back to that piece about energy, so to 291 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: the point of soul cycle and physical fitness. It was 292 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: my idea to take all of that steady back in 293 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: New York of astrology and my love for wellness, and 294 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: to merge it. 295 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: Wow. 296 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: And the way I curated my classes, it was in 297 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: the moment, it was that aquarian All we have is 298 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: the president the ability to feel that. What does Mercury 299 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: feel like in this moment? What does Mars retrograde feel like? 300 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: Right now? Why am I playing can't see me by 301 00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: tupac Oh? Mars and Pluto was a very Mars energy, 302 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 2: and that that energy, it's energy. It's like Roberto Clemente, 303 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: he said, I never play happy. I played baseball angry, 304 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 2: but he was the most happiest giving man. He gave 305 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 2: his life service and here he under again energy. It's 306 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: okay to be angry, but to use it. And that's 307 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: what astrology does. And that's what I am still working on, 308 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: bringing that together of energy from above as above so below. 309 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 2: How to curate it. I curated it with the class 310 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: without so much speaking about it. It was super music. 311 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: And that's what I'm doing now with my with my postings, 312 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: using music to tell a story, because music ultimately is 313 00:24:53,080 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: very transcending, because it transcends us from the ordinary to 314 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: be extraordinary by staying on the beat of the music. 315 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 2: Our life is so musical. With understanding of the energy. Yeah, 316 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: and it's okay sometimes like right now, So what it 317 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 2: was a difficult seven months, So what I was paralyzed 318 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: physically the ego, Oh, I'm not looking the way I 319 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: want to look. So what but what about now? Where 320 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: are you now or are you going to stay paralyzed 321 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 2: in the past? And what have you learned during that 322 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 2: time you're out there helping others? 323 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, what I'm here in spite of what I'm hearing 324 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: and what you're saying is like, you know, it helps, 325 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: it helps us. This awareness helps us accept our cycles, 326 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: right because if we are just being with ourselves through 327 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: the lens of society, then then all of a sudden 328 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: it matters that we don't look the way we quote 329 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: unquote want to look for a handful of months. But 330 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: that's not how nature flows. 331 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 2: You know. 332 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm a believer that you know, I can fluctuate all 333 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: the time depending on the seasons and not necessarily because 334 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: like my diet is changing, but I recognize that as 335 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: also like, oh, spirit wants me a little more grounded 336 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: right now, so it's giving me a little extra you know, 337 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: gravity to my body to kind. 338 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: Of absolutely take root. 339 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: And then sometimes you need to be a little more airy, 340 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: and you need to move faster in certain ways, or 341 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: you need to kind of bring forward parts of yourself 342 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: or your body that are necessary for the moment. But 343 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: it's respecting and having reverence and acceptance for the cycles 344 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: as they come. 345 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: That's all a part of that. That wellness that's six 346 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 2: piece to the collective chart and tapping into that understanding 347 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: that's sixth hour, what time is it? And being okay, 348 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: it's not a license to you know, stop, but there's 349 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: a reason for the pause. There's a reason for the 350 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: orchestration of your life to be in the valley so 351 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 2: you'll know the glory of the top of the mountain. 352 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: And when you fight these moments, yes, you do yourself 353 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: a disservice because you're not dancing with your life. You're 354 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: not dancing with the intended path. When you fight it, 355 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: you prolong what's intended. You're not using the energetic potential 356 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: that's available to you in that moment. 357 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: That's right, and that's why that's why it's so exciting now, Lily, 358 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 2: because regardless of our charge, we're at such a collective 359 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: starting point. Yeah, that energy that takes us from the 360 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: home into the outer world to be successful. It's known 361 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: as the planet Saturn. Saturn, of course, sometimes is viewed 362 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: as who no, Saturn's coming, Bring it on. We want 363 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: the Jupiter. But the Jupiter, you know, too much of 364 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 2: a good thing? Is it too much of a thing? 365 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: And these starting points with those energies of transformation and 366 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: being successful at home to the outer world. But as 367 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: you know, when I look at chart, as I said, 368 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 2: it's always the moon and the bottom, the bottom is 369 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: the natior home mother, the foundation of life. And until 370 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: you know home, and it's not it's not a physical location, 371 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 2: it's knowing what lies beneath inside the moon again, the Nator. 372 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: Once you are at home, you know yourself. Forgive me 373 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: for quoting the whiz, you know your courage, you know 374 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: your heart, and you can go anywhere because you're always home. 375 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: And I forgive me for going into from direction. But 376 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: I really recommend anyone who has a novice interests in 377 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: astrology are even advance, look at home because everything starts 378 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: at home, at bottom of the chart. It's so important 379 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: because it's a part of our healing. It's so important, 380 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: it's so powerful, it's the foundation we all of course 381 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: want to be at the top and that makes total sense. 382 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: But the work starts at the bottom and I love that, 383 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:37,239 Speaker 2: and you know it's difficult, but it's so rewarding. 384 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: Deeply. Wow. Can we play a little game? Yes, I 385 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: want to play a game and bring forward a couple 386 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 1: names of people I consider, I think many of us 387 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: consider to be great awakeners. There are people that in 388 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: their own ways in their time really created paradigm shifts 389 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: or helped to enforce and and bring forward the shifts 390 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: that were meant to begin happening on the planet. Can 391 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: I Can I throw out a couple of nations, tell. 392 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: Me a lot absolutely. 393 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: What their life was intended to represent. 394 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 395 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to start with my favorite person, my 396 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: internal soulmate, I believe. Can you tell me about Tupac 397 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: shakor Wow? 398 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 2: Not only do I love his energy, and of course 399 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: we will immediately say, oh, he's a Gemini, but you 400 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: know some sign. 401 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: We were born. Yes, So I absolutely start there. 402 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely with the sun in Gemini. And guess what what 403 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: rules Gemini mercury? Where is his mercury and Gemini sitting 404 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: right next to his son? What relationship does that form? 405 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: It forms with a very strong mars, But that Mars 406 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: is in't Aquarius. So his words not only were they powerful, 407 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: not only were they elpha in a very good way, 408 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: a very inspiring way, but the world heard those words profoundly. 409 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: You know that son and Gemini the ruler, the ruler 410 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: of Gemini's mercury and harmony with the higher form of 411 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: the mind. Because if Gemini is the lower form, and 412 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: that's not a negative thing, by the way, because you have, 413 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: like he is, connection between the lower form beautifully and 414 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: harmoniously in touch with the higher form, higher consciousness. So 415 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: and on top of that, to do it with a feeling, 416 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: to do it with a feeling, that's why it resonated 417 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: so deeply. 418 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, and I love that. 419 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: For me with the exercise class, it was an and 420 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 2: I love. I love both And that's why when I 421 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: would counsel new instructors, You've got to have masculine and 422 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: feminine energy music. It can't be all you know, one, 423 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: you have to blend it. That's life and it has 424 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: nothing to do with gender or sexuality at all, because 425 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: the chart doesn't see that. 426 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: You know what's so interesting to me about Park and 427 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: the ways that that you're describing this chart. I found 428 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: that like pauc is so polarizing, right, Like you're either 429 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: under the frame of thought that he is the greatest 430 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: of all time, which I think, or you want to 431 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: debate it and put him up next to like other 432 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, icons of the time, but who had different 433 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: messages and outside of just the hip hop sense, like 434 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: lyrically and all of that. Pac was such an awakener 435 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: and I feel like he speaks to a certain kind 436 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: of person that had these like this revolutionary inner life, 437 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: you know this that maybe their circumstance did not allow 438 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: for them to be you know, the young kid at 439 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: Juilliard or you know, the person did not allow for 440 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: the community and the environment that could really nurture certain 441 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: aspects of those gifts. But you felt them churning, and 442 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: there was a desire to express. There was a desire 443 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: to learn a higher thought. And I think that that 444 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: is very linked with a lot of the people that 445 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: are tested in the way that I'm obsessed with fuck 446 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: because it's a part of who you are. 447 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so deeply a part of your innate essence. 448 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 2: Deeply that speaking to the disenfranchised. It gets back to 449 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: what I said previously, Making others feel like a star. 450 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: You're you're the ruler of your chart is the sun, 451 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: because it begins as a leo rising. But it's not 452 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: look at me, look at look at me, because I 453 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: want you to shine, I want you to take this light. 454 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: And Tupac had the same thing, and especially in a 455 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: very and it has nothing to do with gender, but 456 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 2: that alfho way, That's why it was so polarizing, because 457 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 2: that energy is the truth, and the truth, as we know, 458 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 2: can be very inconvenient, as liberating, as liberating as it 459 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: is it can be. That's the fact. Fact that we're 460 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 2: debating the fact that we're debating at this very moment 461 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: that woke is a bad thing. Yeah, yeah, but it's 462 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: okay because you know it's okay. It doesn't matter. It 463 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. I say it with arrogance. We're fair and 464 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: square here now this age of awareness and more fairness 465 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: over the next three years, our eyes should be burning deadly. Oh, 466 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 2: our eyes should be because we're at this critical juncture. 467 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 2: The reason this juncture, this polarization, you know, whether it's 468 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 2: the vaccine or whatever, gender identification, all of it, it 469 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: began a few years ago when you look at that energy. 470 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 2: We faced off when it first started to appear, what 471 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 2: was going on, rights, human rights, women's rights, Yeah, the 472 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 2: decolonization of Africa, gay rights, human rights, and now that 473 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 2: was the overture and now there's no turning back. 474 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 475 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 2: And of course the dinosaurs. The dinosaurs are off the 476 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: Jurassic Park. Yeah, it's it's not even it's not political, 477 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 2: it just is. 478 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: When you look at the when you look at the 479 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: placement in the sky, what do you see? You know, 480 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: we are from we rooted in this this age of 481 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: churning too, you know, like this is a time of 482 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: real churning. Absolutely, when do we come into the butter. 483 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 2: Well, I shy away from putting on my predictive hat, 484 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 2: but I'm not going to play passive aggressive today. 485 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. 486 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: The next the next two and a half years are 487 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: so exciting. Wow, are so incredibly exciting. Perhaps troubling, oh, 488 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 2: because you know, there's a need for sacrifice in this life. 489 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 2: And it's not a cliche. We have to have dark 490 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 2: to have light. Yeah, you know, you look back at 491 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 2: every cycle, look back at the sixties, look at any 492 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: time there was a need to move forward through death 493 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 2: because there is no death, there's only rebirth, and that's 494 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 2: where we're going now because the awareness, we want to 495 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 2: fight it. We want to fight it simply, as I said, 496 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: by thinking that woke is a bad word. 497 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well yeah, the misappropriation of other people. 498 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: But the energy, especially since that last configuration of these 499 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: two powerful planets structure and order and transformation. The last 500 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: time we had it was September eleventh in the cycle, 501 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: the next time the COVID crises, and now as we 502 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: move to a place that hasn't been for two hundred 503 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 2: and fifty years, so many ways, metaphorically we put mask on. 504 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 2: I mean literally we put mask on. Metaphorically we're taking 505 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 2: them off. We've never seen people so clearly. 506 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, my goodness. 507 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 2: Rather in our personal lives, rather in our personal lives 508 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 2: are in the outside world. Absolutely, we're seeing people so clearly. 509 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 2: And you as a healer, as an awakener, you're seeing 510 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 2: the truth than ever. As for me with my clients, 511 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 2: I feel I've never been so insightful or understanding. And 512 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 2: it's not false optimism, because I you know, I'm a realist. 513 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 2: But when you look at the chart, eighty percent of 514 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 2: it is about structure and order, It is about maturity, progression. Yeah, 515 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 2: but then you know, one in one equals too. But 516 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: when you've done all you can, then there is help me, universe, 517 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: help make out the miracle two and two become nine 518 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 2: because we let go. 519 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about someone else too. Yes, there, 520 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: this person is representative of so much. She is a 521 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: powerful woman. She's a beautiful woman, she's a creative woman, 522 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: and she is the first of her kind. She's truly 523 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: one on one, one of one. Can you tell me 524 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: about what is written in the stars for Michelle Obama. 525 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 2: To be the power behind the throne. It gets back 526 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 2: to something that resonates deeply, something I feel true power 527 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: is quiet and she was a part of you know, 528 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:38,959 Speaker 2: it's very ancestral of moving ahead. And that's that's why 529 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 2: perhaps she has no interest in being a president, because 530 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 2: her power is served better and it's and it's not 531 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 2: a matter of that, it's that it's better than that, 532 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 2: but it's better than that. 533 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: Because inspiration, mmm, true, like one of the most inspiring 534 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: figures of ours all that. 535 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, she has a lot of what I see in 536 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 2: your chart. Oh lord, it's a lot of responsibility. 537 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: Right, I'm going to keep skating right on through. Talk 538 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: to me about a historical figure that we are now 539 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: having more twenty twenty vision on the way that they 540 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 1: really changed the world in their way. What what is 541 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali's chart say about him? 542 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: That he was the greatest Leo rising quarious quarius moon. 543 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 2: He stood there for justice, He kneeled, He wasn't He 544 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 2: did not kneel for I mean he kneeled, but he 545 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 2: didn't kneel to someone's restriction. 546 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't dominated. He wasn't the time that as 547 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: a black man it was very hard to not be. 548 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 2: And look how polarizing it was at that time. Yeah, 549 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 2: and coming from below the Mason Dixon mind, that's another right. 550 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 2: And to have the whole world in his hands. I 551 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 2: remember a kid in nineteen taking the boat over from 552 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 2: Spain to Morocco, Muhammed Ali, Mohammad Al, I mean, I 553 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: love him all around the world, these little kids. That's 554 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 2: that aquarius energy I'm talking about. And for anyone that 555 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 2: possesses it, we all possess it because again through the cycles, 556 00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: we go through an aquarium lunar progression at some point 557 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 2: in our lives. To be aware of that is something else, 558 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 2: but to be born with it is another thing. As 559 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 2: he was as you Ah. You see that element in Oprah, 560 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: you see that element in Angela Davis, the civil rights. Yes, yes, 561 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 2: And it's not so much just that they son sign ularious, 562 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 2: because again Muhammad Ali was a Capricorn, but he took 563 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 2: he took that integrity, that that solidness, and he just 564 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 2: blasted it in the world, the world rather you, whether 565 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 2: they accept it didn't matter. He was a part of 566 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 2: the change. Can you imagine being a little boy or 567 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 2: a little girl and such a restrictive and to see 568 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 2: that that's that strike of lightning, that a god. 569 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 1: They were all all three were just such permission givers, 570 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: you know, within that big awakener energy. It's like you 571 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: have permission to take up all the space and they. 572 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 2: All have that running thread of aquarius. You're honest, and 573 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 2: where are we now? We are? We are now fair 574 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 2: and square in that age. 575 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: Deeply Well, you have been speaking really powerfully throughout the 576 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: show to this moment in time that we're in. This 577 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: is really a moment of a call, not just a 578 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: call to action. This is a moment that is a 579 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: call to awareness, a deeper awareness within self that allows 580 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: for more observation and awareness and yeeling in the greater world. Yes, 581 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: could you speak to what is the energetic potential available 582 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: to us right now? With what you know of the 583 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: way the human condition is destined to be over the 584 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 1: next couple of years, How can people listening best utilize 585 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: this energy? What should people be doing? What should they 586 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: be thinking about right now based on where all the 587 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: transits currently are? 588 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's always good and if not me, of course, 589 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 2: there's so many a wonderful, wonderful guiders out there. But 590 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 2: have your chart done? Yeah, understand where that element of freedom, autonomy, awareness? 591 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 2: Where is that in your chart? And to the novice astrologer, 592 00:45:53,080 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 2: are the very mature astrologer, what does it feel like? 593 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 2: And how can you describe that? As opposed to speaking 594 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 2: that language that some of us astrologers like to do. 595 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 2: And nothing's wrong with that because that comes from a 596 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 2: place of trying to prove it. I'm proving it with 597 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: the facts. Mars is square of your Saturn. So but 598 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 2: what does it mean? I want to feel it to use, 599 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 2: whether it's illustration, whether it's through the chronology of life, 600 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 2: whether it's perhaps a difficult time like Oprah Winfrey when 601 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 2: she had that issue with the cattle industry, what was 602 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 2: going on to use those very specific times of noted people, 603 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 2: noteworthy people. But again to your question, what can perhaps 604 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 2: the lay person do have your chart done, because once 605 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 2: you know, you know, yeah, yeah, to understand where this 606 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 2: collective energy is in your chart, don't look at it 607 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 2: if you're being advised that it's a challenging time. Look 608 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 2: at it as a moment of breaking free. Freedom is 609 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,760 Speaker 2: rarely free. Comes with the price. It comes with the price, 610 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 2: and we all have a price to pay right now. 611 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 2: Either we stay back and we move forward. Because this 612 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 2: is the most exciting time in human history. I feel that, 613 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 2: and that's not hyperbole. This is the most exciting time 614 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 2: to have at a young girl born today. Look at 615 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 2: what's come up trafficking all of this misogyny. A young 616 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,439 Speaker 2: girl born today won't have to deal with that as 617 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 2: she leaves high school in twenty years from now. I 618 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 2: say that with arrogance, it's an empowerment of female energy. Whatever. 619 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 2: And because of course, when you look at the chart, 620 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 2: you don't see race, you don't see gender, You see 621 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,479 Speaker 2: the individual, You see the energy. That's why the chart 622 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 2: has no there's no gender to who you are. You're 623 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 2: you and I am you, you or me as we 624 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 2: walk together through the cycles. 625 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: With awareness, with awareness. 626 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 2: But that beauty, that beauty of the liberation, not just 627 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 2: all these stories of police brutality, just the economic term, 628 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 2: all of it. It's about awareness. It's about education. This 629 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 2: is not political. Ultimately, what gets us ahead is that 630 00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:00,760 Speaker 2: energy we're dealing with to be curious, to learn, because 631 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 2: with education the higher form of the mind. You as 632 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 2: a professor, a purveyor of the higher form of the mind, 633 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 2: broadcasting what you do. And I say this to you 634 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 2: lovingly as a as someone I respect deeply. It's so challenging. 635 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 2: But you're a star. Own it mhm, because you mean 636 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 2: you're making people feel like stars. What greater gift? M right? 637 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you? So So how can 638 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: people connect with you? 639 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 2: Oh? 640 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: How can they get bigger taste of all this? 641 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 2: Uh? Of course. My site is Guidingplanet dot co dot 642 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 2: com guiding Planet, and I like Guiding Planet because I 643 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 2: feel that that's what it is. It's a guide. It's 644 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 2: an awareness, a guide for you to direct your life, 645 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 2: write your script, sing your skull. Also my Instagram guiding Planet, 646 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 2: where I tell daily the energy of the moment with music. 647 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 2: It gets back. It's full circle now my love for 648 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 2: the creative. I see the chart as the most beautiful composition, 649 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:44,399 Speaker 2: and that's not everybody's beautiful. Everyone's beautiful, Everyone's beautiful. It's 650 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 2: a beautiful composition. And it is such a healing. It's 651 00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 2: such a it's such a healing a belief system, not 652 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 2: false optimism. Not am I going to win a lottery? 653 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 2: And you know, I know sometimes that's what we want. Yeah, 654 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 2: but when you're given the tools, when you're given the 655 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 2: tools to take control and have real freedom, freedom and relationships, 656 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:27,919 Speaker 2: understanding why, to understanding the why, knowing that yes it's 657 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 2: a challenge, it's not a problem. There are no problems. 658 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 2: There's solutions, right. So guiding Planet and my intent, especially 659 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 2: over these last seven months, as challenging as they have 660 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 2: been on one end, but so rewarding on the other, 661 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 2: So rewarding because there has been a coming, a face 662 00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 2: to face in some unpleasant and convenient truths for my self. 663 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 2: But at the same time it has inspired me to 664 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 2: bring it full circle. What started you were kind to 665 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 2: say twenty years ago, thirty five years ago, So. 666 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean you look good, well, thank. 667 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:29,919 Speaker 2: You, but oh yeah, it's it's wonderful and my I'm 668 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 2: dedicated to really bringing it back to a sacred spiritual science. 669 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yeah. 670 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 2: Building that bridge between feeling and thought, limits and limitless 671 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 2: except the limits, it's okay, but no, ultimately it's limitless. 672 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:58,760 Speaker 1: It's limitless, it's limitless. Work your chart, work your chart chart. 673 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 2: I'm very clear. I don't I don't communicate false optimism. 674 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 2: You know, seventy five years ago you would go to 675 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 2: a doctor with what would be a terminal illness and 676 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 2: that's it. Today. Where are we in this higher consciousness 677 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:23,879 Speaker 2: with understanding advancement? Yeah, now it's a new beginning, right. 678 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:29,280 Speaker 2: It's the same with astrology. Yes, this is a challenging time. Okay, 679 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 2: Saturn is oppose your Pluto squaring a. You're your honors okay, 680 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 2: but what when you come out of that. You'll be 681 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 2: better if you dance to the beat and sing to it. 682 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 2: Is it going to be easy? 683 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 3: No? 684 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,439 Speaker 2: Will it be rewarding? Absolutely? 685 00:53:54,680 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 3: You know, Gosh, and to know ultimately, and again, as 686 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 3: we said at the beginning, it's not about making excuses 687 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,240 Speaker 3: or hiding behind again you know my Saturn or my 688 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 3: my you know Mars. But by forgiveness, you know, when 689 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 3: you really see the person as they are. 690 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 2: It's not about making excuses. It's about forgiving. More importantly, 691 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:33,280 Speaker 2: forgiving yourself, right. 692 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,720 Speaker 1: One million person, if you do nothing else in this life, 693 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 1: please forgive yourself. 694 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,720 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, because. 695 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: Please accept your life and be aware so you can 696 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 1: use it in service to yourself and the greater good. 697 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I can't. I can't feel that with every 698 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 2: five or we either serve or we suffer in this life. 699 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,839 Speaker 2: And to live to tell, right, a communicator all of 700 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 2: these great healers and awakeners your day. You're a part 701 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 2: of this I received. 702 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: But listen, this episode of the show is not about me. 703 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,360 Speaker 2: No, but you. But it speaks. But it speaks, It 704 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 2: speaks to what we're talking about, this belief system, this 705 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,320 Speaker 2: sacred this sacred spiritual science. 706 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, And we all have a call, 707 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,720 Speaker 1: My god, dude, we all have a call. Please, everyone 708 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 1: listening and connecting to this episode, let this be the 709 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,760 Speaker 1: permission and the sign to answer the call. You don't 710 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: have to have it fully fleshed out. You don't have 711 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: to know the mechanics of the how and the when 712 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: and the why, and you don't need the details. You 713 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 1: have the theme and you get your birthtart. You don't 714 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 1: have to have the details on how these will be 715 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 1: executed and come to life, but you have the greater understanding. 716 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 1: How are you meant to be used? How are you 717 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,879 Speaker 1: meant to serve? How are you meant to learn to grow? 718 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 1: How are you meant to love? How are you meant 719 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: to explore pleasure? How are you meant to be creative 720 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: and curious? It feeds all of it, not just you 721 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 1: know some of the heavier challenges the life's work of 722 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: a purpose or a healing, but it helps inform you 723 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 1: know something I love. For instance, in my chart, my 724 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 1: venus is in Taurus, so being able to own the 725 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,760 Speaker 1: fact for me that like pleasure is through beauty. I 726 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 1: love creating, touching, smelling, being near things that are evocative, 727 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 1: things that are inviting, that are warm, that are interesting 728 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 1: and beautiful in their own ways, you know, and knowing 729 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,840 Speaker 1: that part of my chart, how my creative energy best blows, 730 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: how I best give and receive love like those are 731 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 1: some of the juicier exciting parts about being able to 732 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 1: work with your chart. 733 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 2: And I love that you said that you have venus 734 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 2: and Taurus. Venus is at home there you have such 735 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 2: you synergize that with every other element in your chart. 736 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 2: You have someone who can look at a beautiful you 737 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 2: see the detail and you see the big picture artistically. 738 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 2: And I really like to counsel my clients when they're 739 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 2: going through a challenging time. Yes, it's challenging, and I'm 740 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 2: not telling you to throw the baby out with the 741 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 2: bathwater and become a singer or an artist or a painter. 742 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 2: But you have a natural affinity, So why don't you 743 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 2: use that as akatharsis as a remedy for your pain. 744 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 2: That's a part of you. 745 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: That's beautiful. 746 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 2: That beauty is a part of you, and it's healing. 747 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 2: It's another part. It's not about you suddenly becoming, you know, 748 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 2: a pain. Pick up that camera, start taking pictures, because 749 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 2: perhaps right down in the sky the energy that rules 750 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 2: photography is in harmony with say you're Venus and Taurus. 751 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 2: Pick up a camera. Even if it's just for yourself 752 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 2: and no one sees it, it means everything, and it's 753 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 2: so healing, it's so cathartic. We've got to get away 754 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 2: from wanting a million people to like whatever we put 755 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 2: out there. We have to like ourselves first, yes, and 756 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 2: know that we have that ability, that beauty that you 757 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 2: have with art. You're not. I don't think you're going 758 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 2: to go and you know, start shooting for architectural digestion. 759 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 2: You very well could. I mean, I've seen your home 760 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 2: and it puts the shame frankly to some people who 761 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 2: are in the business. But you know, but you know 762 00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, right. 763 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love that so much, Daryl. God, that's 764 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 1: such beautiful, actionable direction, you. 765 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 2: Know, actionable, actionable and to to. 766 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: You know, to your point of liking oneself, to like 767 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 1: and to really authentically love oneself, you have to be 768 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,920 Speaker 1: willing to be in practice with yourself. You have to 769 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: have a few different drafts that you kind of move 770 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: through and you're not frustratingly balling up your first draft 771 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 1: and throwing it away. You're just kind of like, Okay, 772 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 1: that's the first draft, and where can I go from there? 773 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 1: What's the elevation from there? What's the next thought? The 774 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 1: next ability? 775 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and as you well know, it's it's it's human 776 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 2: nature sometimes for someone to look at you and say 777 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 2: she's on top of the world. You know, they have 778 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 2: no idea that there's no such thing as overnight success 779 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 2: at all, at. 780 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 1: All, ever, never, never. 781 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 2: But that's also a testament to when you're in spite 782 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 2: of shining, you know, But. 783 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 1: I love you, Darryl Gains. Darryl, thank you so so, so, 784 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 1: so so much for coming on the show, for sharing 785 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: your wisdom, for sharing your profound gifts, and for all 786 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 1: the beauty that you bring into the life of your 787 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 1: clients and of all the people that know you. I 788 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: am so grateful for you, so grateful for your work, 789 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 1: so grateful you said yes to your gifts and your calling. 790 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Debbie. I mean, there are no 791 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 2: words but thank you, thank you, thank you. I appreciate it. And, 792 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 2: as I say so many times, to be blessed and 793 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 2: invigorated by the charts of my clients to know this 794 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 2: is how I got over. This is how we can 795 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 2: get over. This is how we go through these cycles 796 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 2: of life. Dreaming, yes, but dreaming with our why our 797 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:14,919 Speaker 2: eyes wide open. We gotta dream, We got to got 798 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 2: to accept the reality. But we have to dream with 799 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 2: our eyes wide open because it's here. This is again 800 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry for the hyphoverlief, but this is the most 801 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 2: exciting time to be alive. As challenging as it is, 802 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 2: especially when we tune into all of that stuff the news, 803 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 2: there's no question. 804 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 1: As intense at as it is. Yeah, really, it's a 805 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 1: really charged intense time that there is is a lot. 806 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 2: To it, and that's why your voice has been elevated 807 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 2: now more than ever. 808 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 1: Thank you everyone. Please go follow Darryl at Guiding Planet 809 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 1: head to his website guidingplanet dot co. Thank you so 810 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: much and a little bit of soul work for this episode, 811 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, when we are sitting in all of this 812 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: expression that was so beautifully shared with us from Darryl. 813 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 1: I want you after this episode, if you have some 814 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 1: time today and this week before we join one another again, 815 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: get a journal, Get in your safe space, get in 816 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 1: your sacred space that you've created wherever that is, take 817 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 1: some deep breaths, and, as best you can, from a 818 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 1: lens of neutrality and non judgment for your experiences, start 819 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 1: to get down on paper the beginnings of the awareness 820 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: of the themes that play in your life. Now, if 821 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 1: you're ready for this, and also if you've already done this, 822 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 1: connect it with your chart, get a reading, or if 823 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 1: that is not a possibility in this moment in time 824 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 1: for you. Two apps that I recommend very strongly are 825 01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 1: the pattern app by the amazing Lisa Donovan and the 826 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 1: Chany app by Channi Nichols. Both are very different, both 827 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 1: are very thorough and very beautiful expressions of your chart. 828 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 1: So that's something that you can do from your phone, 829 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 1: but I encourage you to find an astrology expert, someone 830 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 1: that has been really seasoned in doing this, and sit 831 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: with your chart. Go to guideplanet dot go, and as 832 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 1: you do that, I want you to start identifying what 833 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 1: are the themes at play in your unique personal life. 834 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 1: That's the start. The more you spend time, the more 835 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 1: you add to that paper, the more you'll begin to 836 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 1: intuitively connect to the greater understanding of how your life 837 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 1: is intended to be used and how you're intended to heal, 838 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 1: to grow, to transform, and ultimately to serve. Thank you 839 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 1: for joining us on Deeply Well. I'm Debbie Brown and 840 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm mis Stay connect with me on social at Debbie Brown. 841 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 1: That's Twitter and on Instagram, or you can go to 842 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 1: my website Debbie Brown dot com. 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