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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 2: Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 2: by a journalist and historian from Kool Zone Media who

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Speaker 2: you know from his reporting on It could Happen Here.

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Speaker 2: He's reported for Esquire and not Geo, The Nation Slate,

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Speaker 2: among many others, and his new book is now available

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Speaker 2: for pre order. It's called Against the State, Anarchists and

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Speaker 2: Comrades at Warren, Spamimar and Rojava. Please welcome James Sta.

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Speaker 3: James, Wow, that was a great intit Oka.

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Speaker 4: Well, pre do you feel better about myself?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Now your I mean, look the reputation precedes.

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Speaker 2: You, man, James, what a hirge subject to in this

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Speaker 2: American moment?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I want to be. I pitched his book

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Speaker 3: in like twenty twenty two, so yeah, here we are, right, ye,

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Speaker 3: nearly four years later, but yeah.

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Speaker 1: Amazing buzz marketing by the Trouble administration. Yeah yeah, gal marketing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you got it in at DHS or something.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not moist pity. I have not interacted with DHS

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Speaker 3: in any way apart from the way so everyone else has,

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Speaker 3: which is you know, them shouting at me, deploying chemical liritins,

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Speaker 3: et cetera.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they love to do that. They do.

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Speaker 1: It's right now. Yeah, we're passionate about chemistry, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, vapors, smokes, particulates.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think Greg Abbott was like recently saying something about

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Speaker 6: like just with like Glee talking about all the pepper

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Speaker 6: balls that were being like fired at protesters like.

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Speaker 3: Cool, yeah, very unpleasant and peppable.

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Speaker 2: But I mean I have to assume that they're recruiting

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Speaker 2: a lot of you know, chemical engineers people like that

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Speaker 2: and to be like interested in chemistry. So are we, yeah,

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Speaker 2: come on through Maybe not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they all think that they're recruiting in

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Speaker 3: other areas if anything.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, or like like amateur geneticists. Yeah, that's probably pretty

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Speaker 6: hot right into like phenotypes and stuff, skull shape.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, we've got some Calapa guys who do differnology.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what is something from your search history that's revealing

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Speaker 2: about who you are?

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Speaker 4: Well, that the idea of you Bringing me on is

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Speaker 4: like an hour and a half in depth interview as

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Speaker 4: one of the fans who like, you're just completely breaking

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Speaker 4: with format where no, we got to get down to

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Speaker 4: we have been so upset by this ending of stranger

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Speaker 4: things and loved everything to that point. What was your question? Sorry,

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Speaker 4: what's something you think?

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Speaker 2: What's something from your search history that's realing about who

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Speaker 2: you are? Blake?

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Speaker 4: Thank you? Sorry back? Yeah, I had a joke and

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Speaker 4: then I stopped listening. That was obviously worth it. So

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Speaker 4: I am doing a show in Atlanta in March, and

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Speaker 4: the last time I was there, I went to Coca

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Speaker 4: Cola World, and which was in college, I think so

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Speaker 4: four months ago. I'm so young. But so there's this

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Speaker 4: weird thing at the end of it where they have

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Speaker 4: the Coca Cola like recipes from around the world, and

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Speaker 4: the recipes are different in each continent depending on like

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Speaker 4: who live there. So I was wondering how many sodas

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Speaker 4: that they that they had there. So I look the

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Speaker 4: search was Coca Cola World, how many sodas? And the

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Speaker 4: answer is over one hundred. So you go to like

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Speaker 4: Vite a Africa my head. So you go to like

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Speaker 4: South America and then it has like, oh, this is

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Speaker 4: what you know. This Coca cola product tastes like you

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Speaker 4: know here, And I remember this guy brought his own taster,

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Speaker 4: with him to drink more soda. And this was a

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Speaker 4: because he was drinking like twelve ounces of each soda

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Speaker 4: and there's over one hundred soda. So that's why I

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Speaker 2: Or was he what did he didn't drink coca cola

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Speaker 4: So crazy? It is interesting though, if you like some

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Speaker 4: of them are more sweet.

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Speaker 2: Have you had one? Like you can't taste anything, you

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Speaker 1: Like in the same way that like if you have

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Speaker 1: candy and then drink coca cola, it tastes like it all.

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Speaker 7: It all tastes like the last cook I don't know.

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Speaker 4: This is the stuff people like take rust off their

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Speaker 4: cars with and like you know, when YouTube was created,

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Speaker 4: it's like, oh, I have ten gallons of this, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, until my body rejects it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, They're like this tastes like my teeth hurt, That's

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Speaker 2: This tastes like like molar tastes like I can still

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Speaker 2: feel my wisdom teeth which were taken out on my

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Speaker 2: twenty second birthday. They're back.

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Speaker 4: Baby.

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Speaker 8: That's so interesting, Like I wonder that is interesting, Like

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Speaker 8: I I find the fact that we've taken so all

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Speaker 8: the people who used to like go into government science

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Speaker 8: departments that were well funded and like cure polio and

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Speaker 8: shit like that.

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Speaker 2: Like those people for the past thirty to forty.

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Speaker 1: Years have all gone to work for like Coca Cola

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Speaker 1: to like create you know, create Dorito's or you know

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Speaker 1: that just have the perfect mouth feel. And just the

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Speaker 1: fact that Coca Cola is sitting there analyzing the palettes

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Speaker 1: of every culture around the world to like make their

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Speaker 1: beverage just like have the perfect like hit the palate,

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Speaker 1: like like Norway. They're presumably being like, well, these people

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Speaker 1: eat lootfisk, so they like it. It has to be

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Speaker 1: fucking overpowering. It has to like make your eyebrows fall

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Speaker 1: out when you get they get hair. Yeah, that like

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Speaker 1: turns into something that resembles I don't know, it has

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Speaker 1: like a I feel like the flavor notes that people

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Speaker 1: talk about are lie, the thing that like they use

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Speaker 2: Like this is smoked draino.

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Speaker 1: It's cured in LIE. Yeah, it's actually LIE. It's not

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Speaker 1: just that flavor profile.

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Speaker 2: It is actually that's what they used to cure it.

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Speaker 2: Aged in lie barrels.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, with people who rubbed the tell the wrong way

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Speaker 4: in Norwegian.

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Speaker 2: Of course I threw up.

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Speaker 7: He was just like chemical cleaning agency.

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Speaker 4: He's like, this is all right, Yeah, it's amazing he

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Speaker 4: two of the continents before yeah, before he exploded. But

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Speaker 7: Can I share a brief puking story, which is the

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Speaker 7: worst way to start a story, but that my friend

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Speaker 7: shout out Matt Liebert's in Saint Louis, Missouri. It was

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Speaker 7: one of those you had to drink five shakes at

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Speaker 7: Crown Candy and downtown Saint Louis, and they were huge

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Speaker 7: shakes and you got a T shirt or whatever, and

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Speaker 7: he drank one and a half, went outside, threw up

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Speaker 7: white and while he was puking, yelled, it's still cold.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is so funny.

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Speaker 6: Cold.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a quote you must have repeated for decades. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: for sure, it's like that doesn't go away.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: At his funeral, totally said.

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Speaker 4: He's still cold.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, little milkshap birds were like a little bit of

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Speaker 1: the milkshake comes up and it's still cold.

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Speaker 2: Great, great part of the milkshake consumption process.

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Speaker 7: It's also that's what life was like before the internet too,

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Speaker 7: you know, right, Yeah, that's what we did well. Now

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Speaker 7: we still do it, and it's called a TikTok challenge.

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Speaker 7: But they always like, what is something you think is underrated?

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Speaker 9: Francesca, So underrated is knowing how to tail someone. Let

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Speaker 9: me explain. Ice was in my neighborhood and around a

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Speaker 9: and you know, I don't want to docks myself, but

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Speaker 4: Now they were all over East Los Angeles.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they were all over East Los Angeles, right, And

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Speaker 9: so I got word because you sign up for texts

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Speaker 9: that you know what they were driving and whatnot, and

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Speaker 9: so I had an hour or so. So I was like,

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Speaker 9: and I went out and number one, don't pull the

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Speaker 9: whistle inside the car because.

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Speaker 2: You will blow your ears out.

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Speaker 9: I just learned that the windows down.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 9: I was stopping and talking to folks who, you know,

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Speaker 9: And I was like trying to find these SUVs which

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Speaker 9: are always they're always like American, right, so they're always like.

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Speaker 9: Now right, like big ass suburbans. And so I was like, damn,

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Speaker 9: I can't you know. I was just looking around. I

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Speaker 9: couldn't really find him. And then as I'm turning onto

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Speaker 9: this one street and I'm already in the left turn lane,

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Speaker 2: The suburban and looks exactly like it.

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Speaker 9: And my dumb ass like wasn't able to pivot in

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Speaker 7: I mean, it would have been illegal, would have been

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Speaker 9: Dangerous, but like whatever, it was a chill intersection actually,

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Speaker 9: like I could have just pivoted and followed him and

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Speaker 9: said I did the whole loop, had to wait in

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Speaker 9: the light and then just lost this person. And I'm

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Speaker 9: just saying I feel like movies make it. I don't

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Speaker 9: know why movies lie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they seems they make.

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Speaker 9: It seem really easy, you know, like video.

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Speaker 1: Games too, especially, And onely, the thing that I've noticed

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Speaker 1: is a bigger problem, a bigger hindrance in movies where

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Speaker 1: people are tailing or chasing someone is like somebody walking

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Speaker 1: across the street with a big glass pane or a

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Speaker 1: giant cake.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that.

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Speaker 4: Watermelons, that's right.

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Speaker 2: But it's hard to tail someone.

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Speaker 9: So I feel like there is like a value and

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Speaker 9: a lot of people are doing great work. Now obviously

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Speaker 9: be safe and whatnot. But yeah, the I appreciated all

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Speaker 9: the tailors. I think they're called tailors.

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Speaker 2: Mm hm, who you know?

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Speaker 9: Whose names we will never know?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, But where was the person making the

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Speaker 1: left under the oncoming Where were they being tailed? Were

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Speaker 1: they being.

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Speaker 3: Someone on them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they wouldn't know, because that person tailor.

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Speaker 4: Not me.

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Speaker 2: Who are you? Who are you?

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Speaker 2: Should be killed. She's like, yes, absolutely, And then he

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Speaker 4: And how about this.

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Speaker 12: Attacked by this standard, would any of those officers being

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Speaker 12: President Trump pardoned every single one of those.

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Speaker 13: And every single one of these investigations comes in the

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Speaker 6: And that's what it's a again. It becomes a bunch

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Speaker 6: these people be deserved to be arrested? They said, every

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there was more like it goes on to where

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Speaker 6: I feel like you just there's no investigation. We still

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Speaker 4: It's just a bunch of what about isms and deflections.

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Speaker 12: Say through, I'm wondering if you're not doing a disservice

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Speaker 13: You say once, what a disservice it's done for Mayor

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Speaker 13: Fry to get up and to Ice to get the

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Speaker 13: a murderer. For individuals, well call them out, Jake, spend

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Speaker 4: That was Jake groaning, because again, it's just like a

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Speaker 6: You're talking about something this consequential and it's just you

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Speaker 4: Then you then have Tom Homan.

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Speaker 6: Who's the you know, borders are He also had to

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Speaker 6: Christian Welker pretty much point blank, was like, look the

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Speaker 6: Are you saying anyone who doesn't like ICE or is

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Speaker 14: I can't say that. You know, it's a case by

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Speaker 2: Look on the definition terroism.

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Speaker 4: With Secretary Nome correct to label her a domestic terrorist.

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Speaker 14: Know what I don't know. Secretary Nome knows. What I

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Speaker 4: Terrorism here he goes goes right back to it very narrowly.

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Speaker 6: If you again, I mean like that that term terrorism

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Speaker 6: And you're one of these people now because what you're

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Speaker 2: allowed to do that, right, try and change what we're doing. Yeah,

446
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: voice just what Nah? Is it cool if I sound

447
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: a little bit drunk while I'm making this point?

448
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 5: Is that cool?

449
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: Because are really loose?

450
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 6: You always sound a little bit that's always call them

451
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 6: it sounds like a drunken barn cat. You gotta understand it, Chris, No,

452
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 6: I gotta put my djers in a little bit better

453
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 6: than you.

454
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 5: Uh.

455
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's wild, James. I'm curious too, Like in

456
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 6: the context, especially in your book, you're talking about people

457
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 6: who also find themselves in quite extraordinary situations. You know,

458
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 6: people living their lives and then they come up against

459
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 6: a state that is violently trying to upend their way

460
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 6: of living, deeming everything they believe in or their way

461
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 6: of life illegal? What is where do you kind of

462
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 6: put the this this situation right now sort of in

463
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 6: the context of a lot of the things you've seen

464
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 6: in terms of you know, people led revolutions and things

465
00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 6: like that.

466
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's not a good situation that we're in

467
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 3: right now.

468
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 4: No, no, no, fuck.

469
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: Actually, I remember you were saying, they're like when they

470
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: say anybody who protests against them as a terrorist, I

471
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: was hoping you said it that that's actually the coin

472
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: that they're usually going to call it off. Yeah, that's

473
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 1: their last step before the before the divide.

474
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: We're good here.

475
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: Actually, I remember in twenty twenty two, early twenty twenty two,

476
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 3: I was speaking to this young guy was part of

477
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 3: the unit called the gen Z Army in Myanmar, and

478
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 3: really like really nice young man, right, Like he was

479
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 3: kind of one of the reasons I wanted to write

480
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 3: this book because the way he talked about how they

481
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 3: organize themselves lines up with what I would consider to

482
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 3: be anarchism. Right, they didn't have authority in structures, say,

483
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 3: they obtained consensus before doing stuff, and that he was like, Yeah,

484
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: for years we'd hear the government talk about terrorists and

485
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 3: we'd be like, well, shit, that's awful. Hope those guys die.

486
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: And then we saw the government. We saw a military

487
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 3: seat is like the power from the elected government, right,

488
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: not a great election, but election nonetheless. And now they

489
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: call us terrorists and we're not terrorists, like and we

490
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: realized that that's just that's just ship that they say.

491
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: They are the ones who are trying to make people

492
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: afraid and to execute political change through fear, right, And

493
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 3: I thought it was really interesting to see him. And

494
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: that word in Burmese that he was using is very loaded, right,

495
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's a word that I wouldn't I

496
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to use to describe them still, and I

497
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 3: sometimes don't even use rebels because I know it can

498
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: be translated in that way and people can feel like

499
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 3: it's it's disrespectful. But for him, he he's like, yeah,

500
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 3: I give a ship and called me what they want.

501
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 3: They're out there killing people, like right, they're doing worse

502
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: stuff in calling me names, and like it's very clear

503
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 3: which one of us is the bad guy here?

504
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: Right? Yeah?

505
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Speaker 6: I mean again that especially in American culture, it's such

506
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 6: a thought killer as a description when you just say terror. Yeah,

507
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 6: and bad, instantly bad, no further analysis needed. If you

508
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 6: say domestic, oh, domestic terrorist means a person that lives

509
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 6: here and is bad versus the other one, which most

510
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 6: people just go They just think like Islamic extremism or

511
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 6: something like that, and just st isis and yeah, because

512
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 6: they use the same sort of language that in rhetoric

513
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 6: they've used for the last three death three four decades

514
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 6: to describe like other kinds of extremist terrorism, like it's

515
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 6: a whole network, okay, that they're part of a network,

516
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,719
Speaker 6: you understand, and like they're there in a cell of

517
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 6: other terrorists in this network, rather than I think what

518
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 6: most people saw I feel, which is like this is

519
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 6: just a person who again is in their community saying

520
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 6: what the fuck is going on? I'm gonna record this

521
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 6: and sure, maybe getting being in the road maybe quote

522
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 6: unquote illegal or violation, but in terms of that leading

523
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Speaker 6: to a summer re execution or just being shot just

524
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 6: without any kind of anything, Yeah, yeah, I think that's

525
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 6: where most people are.

526
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, but that's this is a lot.

527
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 6: And yeah, I'm I'm wondering too, how when it will help,

528
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 6: like how quickly American people also see like how cheap

529
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 6: this this sort of descriptor or like just casting anyone

530
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 6: as getting in the way as terrorism or terrorists will

531
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 6: kind of hold up because they seem to really think

532
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 6: that that is their like sort of rhetorical strategy here.

533
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 6: It's keep saying this person is a terrorist or anyone

534
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 6: that is not doesn't like Ice is a terrorist, and

535
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 6: maybe we have enough logical cover to keep doing this.

536
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's I mean, I was I'm thinking I

537
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 3: think a lot about like the situation in Myanmar, right,

538
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 3: like how it began. It's like these big, peaceful protests

539
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: and it became a revolution that now has liberated half

540
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 3: the country from the government, and like there were little

541
00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 3: they're little rubicons they crossed all along the way the

542
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 3: river crossing reference. But uh, this time, like I remember

543
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: the first time the cops shot someone and people were

544
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: just like shit, like these are the stakes, right, Like

545
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: this is a game we're playing and there's a choice

546
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: there that people have, right, It's like could do. And

547
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: this happened in the Syrian revolution that have not all

548
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: across the Arab spring, right, it's happening in Irun right now.

549
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: People were like, well, are we willing to play game

550
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: where the stakes are our lives or are we willing

551
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 3: to live the rest of our lives subjected? And obviously

552
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: in the US and theory we have elections coming up,

553
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 3: but that's not necessarily the case. But that wasn't the

554
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 3: case in in Memmar Interior and it's not in Iran.

555
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 3: And people were like, you know what, fuck you, We're

556
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: all going to come out now, like more of us

557
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 3: will show up, tens of thousands of us will show

558
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: up at this young woman's funeral in Memmr, right and

559
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: be like, we're not afraid of you. And those little

560
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: rubicons that they crossed, like are what made their movement

561
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 3: what it is today because they weren't they considered it

562
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 3: to be worth it, I guess, And like that's what

563
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: every every movement has to face. And it's pretty pretty

564
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: disturbing to think that that's what we're facing in the US.

565
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: But yeah, if you can be executed for a traffick infraction, right,

566
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: it's kind of where we're at, right, Like people can

567
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: be killed in the street and and the government is

568
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: going to investigate and find themselves innocent in five minutes

569
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: on Twitter, right, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's pretty bleak.

570
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 6: What's wild is like you know, a lot of people

571
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 6: I say, like, it's all of these weapons we use

572
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 6: abroader coming back home to roost, you know, the same

573
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 6: This is the same justification the US military will use

574
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 6: to kill innocent people in other quota and war zones

575
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 6: and like, well that was a terrorist and like that

576
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 6: looked like a family. But that's your just description to

577
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 6: kind of keep things moving along to not you know,

578
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 6: to not bring people's attention to the humanity of it.

579
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 6: And yeah, I mean I think that's where seeing all

580
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 6: that is really Yeah, it's it's it's alarming, which is

581
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 6: like it doesn't even suffice in terms of like a

582
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 6: word to I feel like Susan Collins right now, it

583
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 6: is alarming right now to see what is happening.

584
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, we're going to ask questions and wait for

585
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: the investigation.

586
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 6: And it feels like the DHS crossed like three rubicons

587
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 6: in the last week.

588
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: Basically they're just skipping over those motherfuckers. They're skipping the rubicons.

589
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 4: Yeah right, And.

590
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 6: I'm also curious, like because rhetorically too, you see out

591
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 6: of the administration more and more of this like ethno

592
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 6: nationalist propaganda come out from official channels as like these,

593
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 6: like you know, very Nazi inspired posters or phrases and

594
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 6: things like that. Do you see that as sort of

595
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 6: them trying to like shore up support from people that

596
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 6: will be receptive to seeing that kind of message or

597
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 6: do you think that's them projecting onto the viewing public

598
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 6: this is what this is the hymnal we're singing from.

599
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 6: Now you can get in line, like what or is

600
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 6: that just trolling? I mean, how do you look at

601
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 6: that and sort of like the larger power.

602
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 4: Picture of it all?

603
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think some of it's just trolling, right.

604
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: Some of it's just like they get a little little

605
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: like cited, thrilled because they've got some like someone who's

606
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: probably like twenty one years old, it's manning that Twitter

607
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: account right like that that, and so some of it's

608
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: they they've been doing it for years and now they're

609
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: doing on a government website and it's very exciting for them.

610
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

611
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: I think some of it is trying to tie that

612
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: narrative to their narrative, right, or to try and like

613
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: gradually move their base towards this open blood and soil position,

614
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: which like they haven't really been that subtle about to

615
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 3: begin with, right, Like that's where they're at now, like

616
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 3: it moved and the Overton you know about the Overton

617
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 3: window right at the window of acceptable political discourse, Like

618
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: it's it's like the Overton windows blown out the wall

619
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: in terms of like it's a hole in the building,

620
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: right yeah, yeah, the out side of the building has

621
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: gone now.

622
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: Expanded, the Overton window of the Oklahoma City Federal Yeah

623
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: they yeah. And I feel like because nothing sticks to

624
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: them that they can just be like, yeah, we're going.

625
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: To do that, well yeah, why not.

626
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: All it'll reach the audience that we wanted to real

627
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: piss off other people, but the pissing off other people

628
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: doesn't have any consequences, right, so we're just gonna keep going,

629
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: right yeah.

630
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: Or it's just owning the Libs, right, which is a

631
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: goal and an end in itself.

632
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 6: It's just it's funny, right, which is odd because I

633
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 6: mean not odd, I mean like if it's such a

634
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 6: fundamental misreading of America from like the MAGA politicians, because

635
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 6: like you even see quotes like like from DHS spokespeople

636
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 6: other politicians are saying like people, you gotta quit protesting,

637
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 6: like saying it like knock it off liked quit protesting,

638
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 6: DHS and ice guys like let them do their jobs,

639
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 6: And you're like, what quit protest? What as if you

640
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 6: didn't expect this to be the natural reaction of human

641
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 6: beings to see people just kidnapped by armed goons or

642
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 6: entering people's homes like that.

643
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 4: That it's like, guys, quit proch what's going on? What's

644
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: with all this protesting now? And I'm curious.

645
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 6: That's the other part is do you see anything in

646
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 6: sort of the actions of the current administration as like

647
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 6: sort of like the hallmarks of a truly like sort

648
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 6: of weak regime trying to project as much power as possible,

649
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 6: or how do you how do you look at their

650
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 6: actions in terms of like what you know, how the

651
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 6: structural integrity of their movement.

652
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: Is Yeah, yeah, I mean what they're going for is

653
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: like there's this thing at the end of chapter seven

654
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: of nineteen eighty four that I think about a lot,

655
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: where this or Well says people fucking love to be

656
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: wrong about all Well. I guess I should just start

657
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 3: that like the amount of people who like to cite

658
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: all Well whilst also being the sort of people who

659
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: all Well signed up to kill in the Spanish Civil War, like.

660
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty four was written about the Biden administration.

661
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: Just want to be Yeah, yeah, mostly concerned vaccines and

662
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: your kids not going to school, having to be in

663
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: the same space as your kids and you hate them

664
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: and they hate you, and yeah, yeah, yeah.

665
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 2: That's what it's.

666
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: It's a book about divorced dads. In wrote Down, he says,

667
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: the party told you not to trust your eyes, and

668
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: is it was their final most important command and like

669
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: that is where we are at week, right, Like that is,

670
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: but that is a ten year project. Donald Trump writing

671
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: down at an escalator ten years ago, shit talking Mexican

672
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: people eleven years ago, right, and they have gradually been

673
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: stacking bricks since then to get to this place where

674
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: they can, like you said earlier, right, they can post

675
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: a video of a dude who is for some reason

676
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: filming on his personal phone whilst doing copshit, who then

677
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: shoots a lady three times in the face and be like, see,

678
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: seems totally cool, Like because they're going to tell you

679
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: it's totally cool, and you're going to watch it and

680
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: believe them. And that is the totalitarian project, right that,

681
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: Like they can intervene in between the external world, and

682
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: you drawing conclusions from the external world and have you

683
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: draw the conclusion that they want, right.

684
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: Like, I.

685
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: That's scary, right if whatever percentage of people will buy that.

686
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: And it's not just a problem I guess with report

687
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: because there's like a sort of conspiratorial wing of Democrats

688
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: who do the same thing. But it is overwhelmingly a

689
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 3: problem right now because the government is using it to

690
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: justify murdering people. Right, that is what we should be

691
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: focused on. And that's pretty scary man. Like, I mean,

692
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: any state the resorts to violence like deliberately does it

693
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: because that is the nature of the state. It doesn't

694
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: mean that they're threatened, right, Like, the state at its

695
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 3: core is the entity that controls violence in a geographical area.

696
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: Su Sure it always has been, right, that's what.

697
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 4: They weren't allowed to use violence?

698
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, they have the molopoly on legitimate violence, the

699
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 3: verbarian definition of the state. Right, So I think them

700
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 3: using violence is not an indication of weakness. But like

701
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 3: them having to resort to violence so much, it's not great,

702
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: Like that's why they've gone so hard on this blitz, right,

703
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: Get they straight up murdered a white lady in the

704
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 3: middle of the day, and like it probably does matter

705
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: that it's a white lady in this country still, right,

706
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: because a lot of suburban folks can see themselves in

707
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 3: the late dragon, the mini Baden after dropping herself from school,

708
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: dropping her kids at school. And if they can do

709
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 3: that and walk away from it without consequences, that's pretty bad, right,

710
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: It's pretty bad for any any any checks on power.

711
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: So I guess we're going to find out in the

712
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: next few days.

713
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 6: Here, Yeah, America the place where it's like, well, I

714
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 6: have to see it happen to someone exactly like me before.

715
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 15: I right now, Yeah, but she don't look that much

716
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 15: like me actually, right, yeah, But do you see anything

717
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 15: in the very beginnings of nascent US resistance that kind

718
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 15: of you've seen elsewhere that you know, you've talked about

719
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 15: kind of resistance witnessing some of these resistance groups like

720
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 15: the gen Z Army, But like, you know, I think

721
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 15: a lot of people in the US feel helpless or like.

722
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: Well, what can we do? And you know there's also

723
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 2: people who are protesting and resisting, but what just how

724
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: do you how do you view like the state of

725
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: American resists?

726
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, Like the reason I write the

727
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: book like it's not it's not like to be clear

728
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: like a guidebook or explaining how to do things. But

729
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 3: I hope it reminds people that really beautiful things can

730
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 3: happen out of really dark times. And like again, if

731
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 3: I go, if you go back to the early Arab spring,

732
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: or perhaps the early protests in mems a better example.

733
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: Right in twenty twenty one after the coup, first everyone

734
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: went out with like funny signs, like well, I can

735
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: remember one person had one that said say no to dictatorship,

736
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: yes to relationship, and like stuff.

737
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: Like that too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

738
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: There was like a lot of a lot of like

739
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: young adult sexual tension. Yeah, like don't fuck my country,

740
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: fuck my friend and has a little arrow and stuff.

741
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: But they were doing that because they thought that if

742
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: they were funny and peaceful, the world would be like that,

743
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: these guys are cool, we should help them. And the

744
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 3: world did not do shit right, And for months people

745
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 3: adhere to the idea of peaceful protests because they genuinely

746
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: thought it would help. And like people are here are

747
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: doing to peaceful protests because they generally believe that it

748
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: will make a difference. And I hope it does. But

749
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: like one potential direction is the direction I guess at them,

750
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: I don't think that's the direction that US will go

751
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: in necessarily, right, Like, I think it's quite likely that

752
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 3: US will fragment in the way Meandmark has done because

753
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: we don't have many of the factors that they had.

754
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: But every one of these revolutionary movements starts like this,

755
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: and some of them end up in open armed conflict, right,

756
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 3: Like the Arab's ring was the same, Right, it was

757
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: thousands of people coming out into the street, like we've

758
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: seen in Minneapolis. Right, Like, that is how these movements

759
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: that result in change. Well, they all begin that way, right.

760
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: Nobody wants to be fighting against the government because it's hard,

761
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: lots of people die, and so everything, I guess begins

762
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: where we're at. Not everything, by any means ends where

763
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: they are at. But right, I can see, and I

764
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: think so much of the young people in them are

765
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: especially so much of their discourse on politics was informed

766
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 3: by having the Internet, learning English and learning from people

767
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: in the US, that they just assumed that the same

768
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: tools would work there. Right, But you had a different

769
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: to take calculus there. Right, If they can kill one

770
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty people in a single day at a

771
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 3: protest that it did in Myanmar. Right, that's a whole

772
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 3: other scale compared to what we're dealing with in the US,

773
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: And it's understandable why things have gone in the direction

774
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 3: of people fighting back there.

775
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is interesting, Like the tone of the signs,

776
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 6: I feel like we're a little bit different this weekend, Like.

777
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one's trying to be funny anymore.

778
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, La, definitely We've had some real, you know, funny

779
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 6: sign I mean, like every American city too, but this

780
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 6: weekend felt it was truly about like like saying like

781
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 6: Renan Nicle Good was murdered. Ice are murders a ball

782
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 6: like just a lot of the it it became less

783
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 6: about who has the best SpongeBob meme. And it translated

784
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 6: like not to say that every sign was like that,

785
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 6: but when now that you say that that that was

786
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 6: an observation I had from the.

787
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean you said that in twenty twenty

788
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: as well, right, Like I didn't think anyone was trying

789
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: to be funny about the murder of George No, no,

790
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: people were fucking.

791
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 6: Mad and h Yeah, like the funniest things were just

792
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 6: like insulting cops like that's yeah, oh that was a

793
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 6: creative insult to you for a police officer, but that

794
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 6: was like the extent rather than like, what's my quip

795
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 6: about this unjustified police killing.

796
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and those skit skits where they like dressed up

797
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: as cops and like kept like slipping on ice and

798
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: like you're like slipping and then their gun would go

799
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: off and.

800
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 6: That was real.

801
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 4: That's a real video Jack Sky slipping.

802
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 6: There's like a whole mixtape that I felt like I've

803
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 6: seen like five different videos on people just being like

804
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 6: I'm going to run on this icy sidewalk.

805
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: Okay, comedic genius.

806
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the vest doesn't protect your cocktyx.

807
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: Okay, just so you know, let's take a quick break.

808
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 2: We'll be right back. And we're back. Baby, We're back.

809
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: I like that. Welcome to the podcast, dude. All right,

810
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: exciting new technology in the world of our dystopian healthscape.

811
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 2: There's a new app that's one of the most popular

812
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: apps in China right now. Doesn't involve AI or online shopping.

813
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 2: I know, so you're probably gonna stop listening, but wait,

814
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: fuck this, Fuck this. I only like apps that involve

815
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: AI and online shopping. It's just literally a way to

816
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: tell everyone that you haven't broken your neck in the

817
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: shower or choked to death on a cheeto.

818
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: The app is called are You Dead question Mark. It's

819
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: currently the top paid app on China's Apple app store.

820
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: That's That's the thing that gets me is that it

821
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: has the nerve to be paid. It works by having

822
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: users tap a green button with a pac manesque ghost

823
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: on it every day, and if they fail to check

824
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: for two consecutive check in for two consecutive days, the

825
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: app emails an emergency contact.

826
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: That's it. That's the app is just.

827
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: Being like, hey, can you touch this button? Okay, good,

828
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: you're not dead. Hey can you touch this button? Okay, good,

829
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: you're not dead. Hey you haven't touched the button yet.

830
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna tell some people you're dead and.

831
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: We'll wait until tomorrow.

832
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: It's literally, yeah, we're gonna wait.

833
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 7: I mean what' like what an incredible example of how

834
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 7: lonely this modern lives have become.

835
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: It's like, so, first of all, just it's a stressful

836
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 2: thing to have hanging over your head, like.

837
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm still fucking alive.

838
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: I get this, Like I can't sleep the night before

839
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: I have to like go somewhere, you know, like wake

840
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: up and like go on a flight or something, because

841
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: I just like will dream the whole night of like

842
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: missing the flight. Like the second I download this app,

843
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm just dreaming about forgetting to hit the button and

844
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: the entire world thinking that I'm dead. Like that's that's it.

845
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: That's so funny.

846
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 4: It's like whenever I do the same thing, if I

847
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 4: have like a six am flight, I'll be a good

848
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: boy and get in bed at like eight thirty and

849
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: then just be stressing out, yes, and be bored. I'll

850
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 4: be bored and stressing out and be awake rather than

851
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 4: getting in the requisite sleep. Yeah, it's so.

852
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: That's good minutes of staple where I just had a

853
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: panic dream about like trying to run to catch my

854
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: flight and getting shot in the face my ice. But

855
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: the app is booming thanks to the rise of one

856
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: person households in China, and it's people are critical of

857
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: it because there's a there's an app called are You

858
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: Hungry that they're just basically spoofing, being like or are

859
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: you dead? How about that? But I do think we're

860
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 2: maybe a year away from this taking off in the us.

861
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't imagine people paying for it, but

862
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: they'll they'll find a way to like make it sell

863
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: you stuff. Still not dead, then you.

864
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 4: There's some vitamins that you can Yeah.

865
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 7: I just I wanted to immediately upon my death publish

866
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 7: a very cool obituary for myself that I've written.

867
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, now you can't like that. Now it can

868
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: be auto distributed to the New York Times on the

869
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: Washington Post.

870
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 4: Premium content that you would get with this app is

871
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 4: that you get an obituary written not by you, but

872
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 4: by Ai by Ai.

873
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: And now we have solved the one problem with this

874
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 2: app is that it didn't embrace AI enough.

875
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: Yea, yes, oh that's why I didn't like this app. Yeah,

876
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 4: it can't embrace it that way.

877
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 7: I want an AI photo of me driving the first

878
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 7: Monster trunk and it's like this is more than his

879
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 7: twenty first birthday or whatever.

880
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: I just you know what I mean.

881
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 7: I want me like, Yeah.

882
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: I think we I think we can finally quit the podcast.

883
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 2: I think we just got.

884
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 4: This is crazy and we thought Elongating Shoes was going

885
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 4: to be the one, but it's it's actually truly.

886
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: Did I really thought I was eating with that one

887
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,479
Speaker 1: when I was nine. It was like no more money

888
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: than my wife and I both came up with the

889
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: invention the same We were both like fourth graders in

890
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: our science their being like, uh, well it was nice

891
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: knowing you losers.

892
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 2: Well we weren't billionaires.

893
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 7: That is like a that's a that's it's a much

894
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 7: more realistic version of a soulmate, you know what I mean,

895
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 7: Like we al sort of think it's this kind of

896
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 7: romantic sunset experience, but it's more like the weird things

897
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 7: you both.

898
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like a weird Yeah, we have a lot

899
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 2: of those. It's kind of funny.

900
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 4: It's actually just mister wonderful and whatever that relationship was.

901
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: I don't think it was good. I don't know that

902
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: those are not our relationship goals. That they like kill

903
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: someone with a boat or something.

904
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 4: They someone died from a boat they were driving.

905
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're going to keep it yeah careful allegedly. Yeah,

906
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: but it is a very bleak that it does say

907
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: more as you were mentioning, says very bleak things there.

908
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: This made me google, like, are we seeing a rising

909
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: number of people being discovered like long after they died,

910
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: you know? And that There's an article in The Guardian

911
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: from a couple of years ago being like ever since

912
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: night teen eighty, the number has just been going up

913
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: and up and up of people who are like aren't

914
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: found for a year, Like people just don't notice that

915
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: they're gone. Like it's what when you find when you

916
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: like read about people being discovered dead, it's like these days,

917
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: I feel like it's so often like they had an

918
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: appointment with youh or like if they had a pet,

919
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: people notice the pet barking or something like that, but

920
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: like we don't. We're not in community. So unless there's

921
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: a fucking like lost number sequence that they have to

922
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: punch in every day at the same time, yeah, nobody notices,

923
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: which is fucked up.

924
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 7: I truly, community, I think is the most we're talking

925
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 7: about underrated. I think it's as important as like food

926
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 7: and sunshine for people, and I think that's what we're

927
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 7: starting to really really learn, like it needs to be

928
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 7: way more focused on as a way to like be

929
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 7: a healthy human being.

930
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: You know, we're learning it theoretically, but like not like

931
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: we right we live more and more isolated lives because we're.

932
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 7: Seeing the consequences of that, which is like total radicalization

933
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 7: total like people just believing all kinds.

934
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 2: Of insane shit, you know. Yeah, but it's we're more

935
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 2: profitable as like individuals living in our little separate matrix

936
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: cells where we were just being like piped in food

937
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: and never have to interact with other people in reality.

938
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we're like two years away from being

939
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 7: everyone having like a twenty four hour podcast, you know,

940
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 7: which is just like pot like like a device on

941
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 7: the phone that just records everything you're doing.

942
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Blake is typing furiously ever since.

943
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 4: We're talking about speak to get not to get even

944
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: more rich than we already have made ourselves on this podcast.

945
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 4: But how about a similar app but for pets, where

946
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 4: your pet can hit a button to let you know

947
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 4: if it's still alive.

948
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, well Collin, are you a dead dog?

949
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: Are you a dead dog? And you can have a

950
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 4: whole community of like is that guy's dog dead? Like

951
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 4: whose Dog's dead? And that's the name of the app,

952
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 4: Whose Dog's Dead? And it won't it'll be h it

953
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 4: will be w h O s e.

954
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: Oh wait no, that's right, w h O apostrepos dogs.

955
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 7: This is very dark, but you know those buttons that

956
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 7: people teach their dogs to use that say like hungry

957
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 7: are outside, there's like there is one that you have

958
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 7: to bring your dogs after it's passed. Touches pod too,

959
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 7: there goes.

960
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm dead. I'm good dying.

961
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 7: Passing.

962
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 4: Passing is nicer, that's so much lighter.

963
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: In America will be called am I Have I passed?

964
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 4: Am I pas?

965
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: Am I passed? Have I crossed the Rainbow Bridge? And

966
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: then in England it'll be like have I fucking shuffled

967
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: this mortal coil? Or whatever? Fucking Shakespeare bullshit? Right, we

968
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: all agree, total it's old, corny, corny, very corny to me. Uh,

969
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 2: no one, no one? Well, speaking of Shakespeare, it ain't

970
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: got shit on Stranger Things, all right. We talked last

971
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: week about how Stranger Things fans were in denial and

972
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: believed that the show had a fake out ending and

973
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: that they were about to drop the real ending the

974
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: next day, which they they were right, that it would

975
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: have been cooler than what actually happened. What actually happened

976
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: is like, no, that didn't happen. They just had like.

977
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: A mediocre finale to a mystery box show, which is

978
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: basically how all mystery box shows end.

979
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 2: Is like you create a mystery, everyone's like, oh, what's

980
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 2: in the box, and then you like add more stuff

981
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: that's like, man, I really want to know what's in

982
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: that box now, and then you just like key batting stuff,

983
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: and then at the end is like, oh, well, that's

984
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: that's what we all kind of assumed was in the

985
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: box the whole time. That's not that's it any So

986
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 2: they were like, okay, so they gave us the fake

987
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: out ending, which was the one that everybody had guessed

988
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: and like nobody was surprised by or satisfied by. But

989
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: there are all these clues all along being like, psych

990
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: this is happening in a fake world, and now they're

991
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: gonna drop a mystery episode tomorrow that was like this

992
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: is actually they wake up and realize that that wasn't

993
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: the real ending, and then they do a whole new

994
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 2: ending that is actually satisfying, unless it's not, in which

995
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 2: case that one will also be a dream until et cetera,

996
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: et cetera, until ad infinitum, or however that's pronounced. Anyways,

997
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: they did not do that. I think that would have

998
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: actually been a cool way to like break the format.

999
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: You use the format of Netflix to fuck with how people,

1000
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 2: but they didn't do that. Instead, they did release a

1001
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: documentary called One Last Adventure, The Making of Stranger Things five,

1002
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: and it has sparked more anger from disappointed fans who

1003
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: believe that their worst suspicions have been confirmed. People have

1004
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: latched onto the creator's admission that they didn't have a

1005
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: quote finished script for the finale when they went into

1006
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 2: production on the last season, which is how a lot

1007
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: of TV always works, like, particularly TV, Like they don't write.

1008
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: This is one of my beefs with TV over movies,

1009
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: Like they go into the story and don't know how

1010
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: it's going to end, and so they're like kind of

1011
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: making it up as they go along, and so it's

1012
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: not always like a cohesive like it has more in

1013
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: common with soap opera plotting than it does with like

1014
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: a novel or a film. You know, a lot a

1015
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 2: lot of the.

1016
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 7: Time, limited releases are often cooler because they have their

1017
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 7: own like vision and there's closure and stuff.

1018
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:49,959
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1019
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a bigger problem when it's such a high

1020
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 4: budget fucking show. Oh my god, it's like, all right, well,

1021
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 4: I guess we blew all our money on the flying

1022
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 4: around freak stuff. That's going on earlier. So I guess

1023
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,479
Speaker 4: this is the only way we could end this because

1024
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 4: they have to shoot them in a basement, you know,

1025
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 4: like this is the only choice we have. How can

1026
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: we end this show? Only in this basement is the

1027
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 4: only way they can figure it out?

1028
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, and like God blessed Ranger Things and all of

1029
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 7: its fans, But like it started out being fairly derivative

1030
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 7: of like a bunch of eighties stuff. You can't expect

1031
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 7: it to be like this grand visionary, beautifully articulated masterpiece.

1032
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: It's like a teen teams on bikes thing. It's kind

1033
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: of fun, you know, Like how many of the original

1034
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: fans just hadn't seen like E. T and Goonies and

1035
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 2: it was like, holy shit, these guys are on another level,

1036
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: you know what.

1037
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 7: And it's like you were saying Jack like that. It's

1038
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 7: because they're like, we don't have any we don't have

1039
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 7: God anymore.

1040
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 2: I did say that on trends.

1041
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, on Trend's like, yeah, this people have nothing.

1042
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: To believe in.

1043
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 7: So this they need a bunch of like child actors

1044
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 7: to save their like save their dream and sense of

1045
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 7: wonder for them.

1046
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: It's really these are the stories that we have to

1047
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 2: create meaning with now.

1048
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's such a good quote. We don't

1049
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 4: have God anywhere, like you.

1050
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: Were saying, we God is dead, long lived, stranger things,

1051
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 2: mister positive, but there is no God.

1052
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: If you also think about how people like react to

1053
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: the Bible, and then you know, they're like, actually, my

1054
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: interpretation of this is that Jesus is coming back to

1055
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: Earth tomorrow, and then like Jesus doesn't come back tomorrow,

1056
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 1: and then they're like, okay, like.

1057
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, we're just off a little bit. Anyways. Yeah,

1058
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: I do feel like these sorts of stories have taken

1059
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: on a new seriousness that they didn't used to have,

1060
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: back when people were like, Okay, I have like a

1061
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: religion that I believe in and then I go home

1062
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: and watch like you know, fucking leave it to beaver

1063
00:53:59,440 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: or whatever.

1064
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, and with the Bible thing too, it's I mean, people,

1065
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 7: it's because to have to go and like reconsider that

1066
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 7: would mean you'd have to change, like instead of being like,

1067
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 7: maybe I got this wrong, maybe Jesus doesn't come back tomorrow.

1068
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 7: Maybe the entire thing is actually just a metaphor for love.

1069
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 7: And their fundamentalism is ridiculous. You have you have to

1070
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 7: examine every aspect of your life. Yeah, you know, so

1071
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 7: it's much easier to be like, no, no, no, that

1072
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 7: it's coming. I just got the date wrong. They're gonna

1073
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 7: put out a whole new Stranger things and it's going

1074
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 7: to be exactly what I thought should happen.

1075
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 4: Right.

1076
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: I do love this quote from because people were like

1077
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: the Duffers are like working on next level. Like the

1078
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 2: way they were thinking about this finale is like fucking

1079
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: five d chess and so like to think that they

1080
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: would have ended it like that and not had like

1081
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 2: a secret ending episode that was going to drop in

1082
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: the future that they were using Morse code in the

1083
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: background to communicate to us about is crazy. Like these

1084
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: guys are like next level. They weren't just remixing old

1085
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: elements of like already great shows that this quote from

1086
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: the documentary shows that what next Level think is there.

1087
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: This is from Matt Duffer. He said, we went into

1088
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: production without having a finish script for the finale. That

1089
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: was scary because we wanted to get it right. It

1090
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: was the most important script of the season. Oh, the finale,

1091
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: the serious finale. It was the most important script of

1092
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: the season. Damn dog fucking next level shit.

1093
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 4: Right there, don't trust brothers. You can't any faith in

1094
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 4: guys who are related to each other as siblings. You

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00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 4: just what good has ever come of trusting two brothers,

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Speaker 4: the Coen Brothers.

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Speaker 2: I can't think.

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00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 4: I can't think of a huh.

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Speaker 2: The Coen Brothers, even though they're all.

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00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 4: Fucked up what they're sick focks. They have a bad

1101
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 4: sense of humor.

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Speaker 2: Some people are mad because at one point they show

1103
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: one of the Duffer brothers or sorry, one of the

1104
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: writer's laptops and they people like zoom in on the

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00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: tab and they're like those two of the tabs look

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00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 2: like chat gpt, which they do look like chat GPT,

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00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 2: and you can't guarantee that they are.

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00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 7: But I mean, he doesn't have time to write it.

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00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 7: He's too busy counting his money. What do you expect?

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Speaker 2: Right? We just in many ways we feel like this

1111
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: is a like top three most important script of the season,

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Speaker 2: the series finale. So yeah, I will just make another

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00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: appeal for if you if you are if only you

1114
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Speaker 2: know Duffer Brothers and the writing team behind Strangers Things,

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Speaker 2: only you know if you're writing chat using chat gpt

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00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 2: to write these finales. But if you are, please just

1117
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 2: go online and steal the best online theory, or don't

1118
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: steal it, just you're already stealing intellectual property of others

1119
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: by using chat GPT. Just reach out to the fan

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Speaker 2: who came up with a theory that rolls and just

1121
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: pay them money to use it. That's gonna be so

1122
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: much better than your chat GBT bullshit.

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Speaker 7: Yes, And to the person who is coming up with

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Speaker 7: the theory, make your own work, like you're there. These

1125
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Speaker 7: people are actually they're sort of brilliant. They're they're better

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00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 7: writers than the writers.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 7: It's like make your own show. You've got a studio

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00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 7: in your pocket.

1130
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that would make a good movie if

1132
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 2: they if they did go and like reach out to

1133
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: a fan and then like a fan got like pulled

1134
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: in onto the set of Strangers Like that would be

1135
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 2: a good that'd be a good movie or about the show,

1136
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: you know, to the making of Stranger Things five. That

1137
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: would be better than a documentary where it's like and

1138
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: we actually thought that this episode was important, yeah, and

1139
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 2: so we like wrote it a couple of weeks before

1140
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: we had to shoot it.

1141
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 4: So so the NHL I got really into hockey this year,

1142
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 4: so I didn't have as much time to work on

1143
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 4: the series finale, but we knew he was on the

1144
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 4: to do list for sure. Who was on there.

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Speaker 7: They also shot themselves in the foot calling it stranger things.

1146
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 7: They just everything adding progressively stranger. So of course they're

1147
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 7: going to run out of strange stuff.

1148
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 4: That's true. There's only somebody really good point.

1149
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: Nice try, guys. You should have should have called it

1150
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 2: strange things. One strange thing, one strange thing, and that's

1151
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: all we promise and no more.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 1: Please like and review the show if you like. The

1154
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: show means the world to Miles. He he needs your validation.

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Speaker 15: Folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to you Monday.

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Speaker 5: By sounding sou