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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: to Adam Fresh, who lost to Lauren Boebert by five

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Speaker 1: campaign manager the Lincoln Projects Stewart Stevens. Welcome to Fast Politics.

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Speaker 1: Stewart Stevens, thanks for asking me to the party. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We are very discerning here and I have to say

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Speaker 1: I love your writing. I really think you're such a

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Speaker 1: talented writer, which you know, I don't think that about everybody. Welcome.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about Nicki Haley and

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Speaker 1: the future of the Republican Party. So this is going

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Speaker 1: to be depressing depressing. Well now, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not. I'm all sold out of the Hope Store. Right.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to ever nominate someone who's not an

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Speaker 1: authoritarian because the party has taken an authoritarian tact. Simple

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Speaker 1: test of that is, will the Republican Party nominate someone

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Speaker 1: who will assert positively that the President United States was

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Speaker 1: elected in a legal, in fair election. That seems like

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Speaker 1: a pretty low bar. And I can't imagine that's not

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Speaker 1: the official position of the Republican Party, which I think

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Speaker 1: it's just sort of a sign of how normalization has changed.

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Speaker 1: But the Republican Party's official position now is that America

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Speaker 1: is not a democracy because if we don't have a legal,

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Speaker 1: not a democracy. Yeah. I think that that's where we are, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's where we all. I mean, people are not focused

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Speaker 1: deutocracy for the folks on the democracy side, which is

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Speaker 1: a majority, to want to pretend that everything's okay and normal.

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Speaker 1: But election, I can't imagine that they're going to nominate

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Speaker 1: somebody who will say that Donald Trump lost. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna have, for the first time, not an

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Speaker 1: election between two parties with different political views. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have one party to believe that they are in a

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Speaker 1: democracy and one party that believes this campaign is about

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Speaker 1: removing and a legal occupant of the White House right.

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Speaker 1: I wrote this piece earlier last week about how to

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Speaker 1: Santis is an Autocrat just like Trump, and how he's

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Speaker 1: basically the same but much better at it. So right,

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Speaker 1: because we've seen him do it in Florida and they're

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Speaker 1: so mad and they're like everyone, we don't you don't

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Speaker 1: like as Hitler. But the truth is, that's not what

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Speaker 1: it is. It really is the reason why he's so

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Speaker 1: popular in the Republican Party is because he is. He

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Speaker 1: is doing all of these things from the autocrap play bomb.

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Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating to watch what Ron de Santus

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Speaker 1: de Santus is saying all this crazy stuff aimed at

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Speaker 1: a Republican primary audience. Boup breaks are going to win

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Speaker 1: a primary. Donald Trump, he's already running in the general. Listen.

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Speaker 1: walking up and down in a sandwich board of this

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Speaker 1: that the Democratic Party should aggressively engage and seek out

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Speaker 1: cultural awards because they're winning them. Think about your average

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Speaker 1: suburban family or a fam whatever, we're that mythical family. Right.

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Speaker 1: How many people move so they can send their kids

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Speaker 1: to better schools? Millions? How many script and safe so

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Speaker 1: he's banning a p I think that is absolutely insane.

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Speaker 1: So look, how do than how how do all these

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Speaker 1: cultural wars of late gone for the Republicans? So how

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Speaker 1: did the Donald Trump versus Nike Colin Kaepernack workout? Well,

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Speaker 1: Nike may nine billion, nine billion off of Colic Kaepernack

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Speaker 1: to retire. You live in Florida. You know how the

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Speaker 1: cultural war? You know when they were mad at Nascar

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Speaker 1: They lost the cultural war on same sex marriage, lost

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Speaker 1: but you can't get an abortion and huge swaps of

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Speaker 1: consider themselves pro choice for higher percentages and everfore in America,

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Speaker 1: politician that gets in a fight with the Happiness Company?

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Speaker 1: How's that working out? Be fighting Peter Pan I mean, really,

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Speaker 1: who won that fight? I kind of remember, like the

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Speaker 1: It is a complete losing argument and they're doing it.

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Speaker 1: It's all aimed at white people. Yeah, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: it's all about race. That's because you know Trump's coalition

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Speaker 1: we're headed to become a majority of an already country.

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Speaker 1: Republicans can't do anything about except try to change your votes,

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Speaker 1: and that's what they're about. It does feel like this

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think the Santus. This is a

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Speaker 1: believe any of this stuff, all right, the same as

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Speaker 1: Nicki Haley. She believed Donald Trump as a person she

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Speaker 1: they all collapsed. I don't think the Santis is a

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Speaker 1: a terrible time. They do better if they've become independent.

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Speaker 1: So like in Connecticut, you've had people who are Democrats

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Speaker 1: became independent. Yeah, his name shall not be mentioned on

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Speaker 1: this podcast The Enemy, But yes, yes, you don't have

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Speaker 1: know a single example that's been successful. Buddy Rohmer tried

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Speaker 1: fantasy that Donald Trump will behave like a normative politician,

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Speaker 1: which I like my chances in the next NFL draft better.

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Speaker 1: It's just not go that. Yeah, all of which I

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Speaker 1: The thing is, it's one of these terrible, dangerous games

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Speaker 1: These things can be good for Democrats but bad for democracy.

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Speaker 1: So I always have I always find myself like a

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Speaker 1: little bit conflicted because you know, yes, I want Democrats

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so kind of yesterday. There's nothing she's

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Speaker 1: so it sponsored this sort of cottage industry of Republican

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Speaker 1: the ones that say, well, hell have I know, But

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna find out because that is my job to

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Speaker 1: be your your elected official, in your leader, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not letting you back into an area until I'm certain

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Speaker 1: it's safe. And I'm not sure he had all that information.

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Speaker 1: And I feel that way because there's very inconsistent messaging

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Speaker 1: coming from him that I think he's being fed from others,

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Speaker 1: which is indicating to me he in fact doesn't know,

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Speaker 1: and he might be being fed from the train company

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Speaker 1: or people who have a vested interest in this going away.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, that I've seen way too often. I've dealt

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Speaker 1: with that out here in California with Pacific Gas and Electric,

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Speaker 1: and my gosh, boy, when they do something wrong and

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Speaker 1: you get involved in any kind of litigation or media

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Speaker 1: or trying to reach out to pr groups that can

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Speaker 1: help manage all the inquiries and stuff, they practically own

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Speaker 1: every one of them in the state. So somehow somebody

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Speaker 1: gets into somebody's pocket, and I would expect that could

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Speaker 1: be very plausible in this scenario. And you know, I know,

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Speaker 1: speaking of you know, Pete Buddha Judge, Department Secretary Transportation.

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Speaker 1: Trains are federal and there's this is a conversation that's

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Speaker 1: going to have to be had. But my focus is

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Speaker 1: always the people and this community and a train derailment

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Speaker 1: and some verry hazardous chemicals. They're gonna get caught up

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Speaker 1: in the political bs, which I think is the biggest

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Speaker 1: travesty of all. But we have infrastructure issues. We have

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Speaker 1: maintenance issues on our rail system. And when we have

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Speaker 1: a rail system that is transporting hazardous chemicals, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, we have another big spill in Louisiana in

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Speaker 1: November that the Department of Transportation doesn't come in and

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Speaker 1: go work. We need what the hell is going on

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Speaker 1: and where is infrastructure money If that's part of the problem,

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Speaker 1: or is a company cutting corners that's now jeopardizing the

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Speaker 1: entire ecosystem and public health and welfare, I think you

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Speaker 1: better step in there so that conversation will be had

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Speaker 1: regarding that the conversation is there about our failing infrastructures.

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Speaker 1: I think we're all aware of that. But what I

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Speaker 1: don't want to get lost in this is the community

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Speaker 1: and people in these agencies. You know, well, okay, they're

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Speaker 1: once you have a little sore throat, so you threw

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Speaker 1: up dismissive of what it is that's actually happening to them.

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Speaker 1: But also, this is a job for the e p

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Speaker 1: A here right, ideas I've read that the U S.

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Speaker 1: E p A was going to be down there today.

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Speaker 1: Did I see that? I know the stated p has

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Speaker 1: been out there and was out there. Um wow, I

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Speaker 1: would have been there. Well what is today the fifteen

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Speaker 1: sixteen that's happened on the ward? So there seems to

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Speaker 1: be tensions between federal and state at this point. We're

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Speaker 1: just definitely not getting the actual transparent information. I know

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Speaker 1: you know that Dwine says it's all safe. He's done

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Speaker 1: the test, show show me, show us, show us, show us,

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Speaker 1: put that out, put that out there on a website

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Speaker 1: so people could come in. It's it's like the like

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Speaker 1: we were discussing with the Beautle of Act. We all know,

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Speaker 1: you know, you may have something on the market shelf.

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Speaker 1: That's questionable, but sometimes the sister chemicals or the additives

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Speaker 1: can be worse than the actual chemical. And that's what's

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Speaker 1: happening here, that we've got an additive of ben zine?

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Speaker 1: Are you even looking for it? Are you thinking we're

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Speaker 1: also stupid that we won't know that and you could

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Speaker 1: get away with something. So that's why I think it's

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Speaker 1: important any testing you're all needs to be in a

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Speaker 1: format where we can go see were those that might

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Speaker 1: have a question a legitimate one and I won't put

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Speaker 1: it out there because you're probably gonna catch them at something.

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Speaker 1: Why are you not looking for this? And that's a

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Speaker 1: detection limit that means it's off site, so we haven't

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Speaker 1: had the ability to do that, and that's adding to

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Speaker 1: the frustration of this situation. Yeah, it sounds like it.

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Speaker 1: I also just wonder like the narratives around it seemed

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Speaker 1: really destructive to write, like the right has said that

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Speaker 1: it's white genocide, which I mean, I think that a

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Speaker 1: lot of bad stuff has gone down, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think that this was intentionally focused on that. No, unless

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Speaker 1: we're talking about by DuPont, any chemical contamination, whether it

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Speaker 1: was a mistake or somebody wants to think it was deliberate.

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Speaker 1: These chemicals recognize no boarders right, no no economic status,

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Speaker 1: no race really true. What should people who are listening

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Speaker 1: to this podcast do to support their people? At this point,

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Speaker 1: they could probably clearly see that they can't assume or

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Speaker 1: take it for granted or necessarily by you know, the

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Speaker 1: line that all is safe, especially when they're questioning it.

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Speaker 1: So what you have to do is trust your own instincts.

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Speaker 1: In these communities, I've learned, nobody knows the land, the water,

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Speaker 1: the creeks, the animals, or how they feel better than

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Speaker 1: themselves in the community. So instead of hoping and waiting

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Speaker 1: for someone to give you the answers, you be the eyes.

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Speaker 1: You be the ears, You are the one experiencing it,

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Speaker 1: and believe you don't need anybody to verify for you,

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Speaker 1: right what it is you're experiencing it. You on that

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Speaker 1: document what's happening, journal your health, if you're down out

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Speaker 1: in the creeks and you're seeing the fish debt, We've

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Speaker 1: got a great boone that we can all use and

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00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: put it out there on social media that can be

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Speaker 1: helpful because seeing is believing what is going on and

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Speaker 1: start protecting yourself. Ask questions about the water. If your

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Speaker 1: water looks funny, or you've noticed the smell of change,

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Speaker 1: maybe you shouldn't drink it. If you're on well water,

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Speaker 1: nobody's coming to test that for you. After a train derailment,

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Speaker 1: there's online places you can go to get testing kits,

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Speaker 1: so you can test yourself to find out what's in

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Speaker 1: the water. And be vigilant in your surroundings, your observations.

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Speaker 1: If you don't feel good, if you think something strange

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Speaker 1: happening with your child, and you know there's been a

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Speaker 1: toxic spill, go to a doctor. So and believe that

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Speaker 1: you you We actually hold the answers when disasters like

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Speaker 1: this happened, especially the victims. But we just don't want

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Speaker 1: to trust ourselves. You have to trust yourself. No one

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Speaker 1: knows better than you, So work with your community. Be vigilant,

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Speaker 1: ask questions, demand answers. If something smells different, if something

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Speaker 1: looks different, if something's changed, if you feel different, don't

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Speaker 1: hesitate for one minute to leave, to go to a doctor,

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Speaker 1: or to not drink the water. Yeah, definitely don't drink

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Speaker 1: the water. Thank you so much, Aaron. I hope that

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Speaker 1: we will not have a reason to have you back,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure we well, well listen, I I thank

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Speaker 1: you for everything that you do, and you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: we can talk again about happier days. That's always happy

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Speaker 1: to come on. But I I will leave with this,

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Speaker 1: and I wrote, please, this is daunting. I know everyone

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Speaker 1: feels it's apocalyptic. I know we all are feeling these things.

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Speaker 1: And I've been thirty years down on the ground during COVID.

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Speaker 1: I released my book Superman is Not Coming. We are

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Speaker 1: in a national water crisis. But what we can do

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Speaker 1: about the people, And what I want to leave with

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Speaker 1: is I have a great sense of hope sometimes of late,

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Speaker 1: more than I've had historically, because I think we're more

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Speaker 1: in tune. I think we're reconnecting. I think that we're

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Speaker 1: waking up. And I'll tell you time after time again,

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Speaker 1: what gives me hope is watching moms in communities rise up.

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Speaker 1: This is my child. I will make it my business.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to find out what's happening, and they do.

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Speaker 1: We are still so lovely as humans and people in

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Speaker 1: times of tragedy. That always comes out. My hope is

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Speaker 1: and what I want to share and say to you

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Speaker 1: and my observation of thirty years on the ground that

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Speaker 1: hope is alive and it is well, yeah, really true.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Aaron, Thank you. I know you,

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Speaker 1: our dear listeners are very busy and you don't have

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Speaker 1: time to sort through the hundreds of pieces of pundentry

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Speaker 1: each week. And this is why every week I put

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Speaker 1: together a newsletter of my five favorite articles on politics.

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Speaker 1: our mailing list. That's fast politics pod dot com. Adam

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Speaker 1: Fresh is running against Congresswoman Lauren Boubert in Colorado's third

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Speaker 1: congressional district. Welcome to Fast Politics. Great to be here,

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Speaker 1: But into Molly first, I need to caveat this interview

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Speaker 1: with I had you on this podcast before your race

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Speaker 1: against Lauren Boubert in Colorado's third district. I had you

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Speaker 1: on this podcast and everyone said, you're crazy, You're crazy.

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Speaker 1: You lost by how many votes? So let's talk about

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Speaker 1: what happened. Some people thought we were gonna lose by

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Speaker 1: forty to forty five thousand votes. From politics to the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party to the Republican Party to everybody in between.

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Speaker 1: But you know, a year and a half ago, Molly

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Speaker 1: I had this a little bit of epiphany that of

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Speaker 1: all the extremists on the right, representing Bobart was the

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Speaker 1: only one that any chance of losing Margutilla Green, Jim

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Speaker 1: Jordan's Matt Gates, that whole caucus of Chaos has ten

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Speaker 1: to fifteen to twenty wins every year, representing Bobart only

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Speaker 1: one by five, and she did not even win her

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Speaker 1: home county. Those in her best don't care for her.

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Speaker 1: A lot more people knew her than and now her

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Speaker 1: now than before, and not for good reason. So I

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Speaker 1: thought that we had a Redistry team in CD three

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Speaker 1: Western and Southern Colorado. So it kind of became an

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Speaker 1: our ten to R twelve to R fourteen or nine district.

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Speaker 1: But I just put my head down and said, you know,

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Speaker 1: of the Republican Party wants their party back, we need

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Speaker 1: to get ten percent of our prior voters. And I

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Speaker 1: think if a moderate Democrat can get by the primary,

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Speaker 1: which I did not by much, I would just drive

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Speaker 1: around the district almost seven which we did four thousand

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Speaker 1: mile road trip. Just I was on the road and

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Speaker 1: we we built a coalition. My mom calls it the

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Speaker 1: pro normal party coalition, and we came you know, we

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Speaker 1: executed about ninety nine eight five of our plan. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you're back for the other seven votes. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: got a flip two hundred seventy five or find another

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Speaker 1: five or six hundred. You know, I think we have

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Speaker 1: had the race done. A week later, amount of superliberals

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Speaker 1: they came up to me and said, Adam, I didn't

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Speaker 1: think you have a chance and you're too moderate for me.

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Speaker 1: I left a blank, but they voted up and down

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Speaker 1: the Democratic ticket for the rest of the race. And

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Speaker 1: a bunch of moderate Republicans came up to me and

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Speaker 1: said the same thing. They're like, Adam, you seem to

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Speaker 1: be a nice person, but I just I've never voted

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Speaker 1: for Democrat and you're not gonna win, so it's not

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Speaker 1: gonna matter. There was a lot of those as well,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, a number one message democracy, your

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Speaker 1: vote matters. Make sure people fill out every bubble that

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Speaker 1: they can. We are excited to get going again. We

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Speaker 1: think we have a longer runway, and we're getting the

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Speaker 1: support from a wide variety of people right off the bat.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we're going to be working very, very

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Speaker 1: hard and listening and connecting with people and the same

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Speaker 1: reasons I ran before. People want the circus to stop.

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Speaker 1: They don't like this entertainment aspect of politics, and that

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Speaker 1: just resonates with a lot of people. I like that

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Speaker 1: word angertainment, and I think it's true. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: we saw anything from these mid terms, it's that people

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Speaker 1: hate this. They don't like being governed by reality stars. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, so, I need to make a hats off

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Speaker 1: to my high school and middle school buddy Deean Phillips,

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Speaker 1: who is a congressman out of Minnesota. We grew up

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Speaker 1: together and he used that term once entertainment, and like Dean,

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Speaker 1: that is a brilliant summation of what's going on in

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Speaker 1: the country, especially in western and southern Colorado with our

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Speaker 1: current representative. And I just use it all the time

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Speaker 1: and everyone realizes it is senses exactly. People want the

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Speaker 1: circus to stop, and I've heard that from much is

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Speaker 1: from moderate Republicans, even conserved Republicans. They want people to

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Speaker 1: focus on the job, not in themselves. And people are

643
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Speaker 1: not saying that there's any change one iota from the

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Speaker 1: current incumbent now as she he cocked her way around

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Speaker 1: that first week of Congress, and she thought she was

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Speaker 1: doing a great service for herself, raising money um every

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Speaker 1: time she was poking the bear at soon to be

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Speaker 1: Speaker McCarthy. But the ranchers and farmers and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people in Colorado that I spoke to who've voted

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Speaker 1: for her in the past, they just put their head

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Speaker 1: down and said, you know, I wish she would have

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Speaker 1: learned her lesson about having, you know, the closest race

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Speaker 1: in the country. She almost had the most surprising result

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Speaker 1: in twenty five years across the country. You know, she

655
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Speaker 1: was supposed to win by again twelve or fifteen points,

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Speaker 1: and she won by point one five or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it seems like that you're race in Colorado is actually

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Speaker 1: really meaningful, not just because it's yet another annoying example

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Speaker 1: of pollsters being wrong and fucking up candidates who really

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Speaker 1: could have won, which is really the I feel like

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Speaker 1: the headline of your race, right, just like Mandela Barnes,

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Speaker 1: just like you know a lot of other candidates who

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Speaker 1: got killed by just really inaccurate polling. But the other

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Speaker 1: thing is that I feel like the state of Colorado,

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Speaker 1: it's not a blue state. It's the purple state. But

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Speaker 1: Republicans have run lunatics and Democrats have run, you know,

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Speaker 1: saying candidates twenty years ago or thirty years ago, it

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Speaker 1: was read it's now summer purple, and it's gone pretty

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Speaker 1: blue in some places for sure. And again I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of that has to do with the Democratics

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00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: out here have been running just people that are trying

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Speaker 1: to get the job. John b pragmatic work across party lines,

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Speaker 1: solve problems that are facing the issues of the day

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people, whether it's urban or rule.

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Speaker 1: The Republican Party has run some real extremists. Having said that,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting. Joe day was is a pretty

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Speaker 1: normal person, uh and and a thoughtful businessman, and he

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Speaker 1: lost to Michael Bennett by fifteen points. So it was

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Speaker 1: there was definitely a bit of a blue wave. And

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Speaker 1: so people have gone back and forth whether we helped

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Speaker 1: the Democrats in c D three or they helped us.

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Speaker 1: It was probably a little bit of both. But again,

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Speaker 1: when you're running against people who are part of the

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Speaker 1: chaos caucus, it makes life much easier. And the Republican

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Speaker 1: Party in Colorado which I'm not going to spend too

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Speaker 1: much time focus on, is an uproars. One of the

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Speaker 1: biggest counties in the district is there's a splinter group

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Speaker 1: that's suing each other. They're during their during their reassembly

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Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, blah blah. So again, I just

690
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: think it's a matter of you know, you focus on

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Speaker 1: the job at hand and you go forward, and you

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Speaker 1: know that resonates with you know, the vast majority of

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Speaker 1: people that want both parties to be played play ball

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Speaker 1: between the two forty yard lines. Yeah, yeah, no exactly,

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Speaker 1: But I do think, like I mean, you're not running

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Speaker 1: against someone who's normal. You're running and someone who is

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Speaker 1: taking quite a lot of the air out of the room. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and not for a good reason. I try to make

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Speaker 1: the case that of all these extremists were the only

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Speaker 1: ones that can defeat somebody, and no one believed us,

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Speaker 1: And sadly, there aren't any other Republicans that are that

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Speaker 1: kind of brand known nationally that have any chance of losing.

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Speaker 1: In so, with all due respect to those Democrats that

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Speaker 1: are going to be running against Marge Taylor Green and

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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan and Macada, the numbers and it's not there.

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Speaker 1: We have proved our point and I think we've earned

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Speaker 1: the trust. We've seen a tremendous amount of money come in,

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Speaker 1: not just within the district, in the state, but around

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Speaker 1: the country because they realize that, you know, she is

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Speaker 1: the one person in the country with that type of

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Speaker 1: brand name nationally that has any not just a chance

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Speaker 1: of losing, but are really done the chance to losing.

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Speaker 1: And that's what we're going to focus on. This is

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Speaker 1: all good point, but just remind our listeners why you're

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Speaker 1: the right person for this, Candida say, for this job. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I mean so, there's a couple of things. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a very rural district. We have asked

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Speaker 1: an entire ride in quest to be at three resorts

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Speaker 1: towns that a lot of people know in your listenership.

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Speaker 1: And you have Carbondel to right. Yeah, you have Carbondale

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Speaker 1: and Basalt and Glenwood Springs and Grand Junction, ten of

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Speaker 1: twenty miles away from the Utah border. Is kind of

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Speaker 1: the hub of Trump country in the Colorado not just

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Speaker 1: in our district. But it is changing over over time.

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Speaker 1: As you know, there's a brewery indecks I use the

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Speaker 1: more breweries, and she the less conservative the areas, and

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Speaker 1: we just started making connections. And again, I just I

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Speaker 1: was very, very focused on working on that thirty to

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Speaker 1: forty percent of the Republican Party that wants their party back,

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Speaker 1: and I just pitched my self is a very safe

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Speaker 1: alternative that the issues that face out here, water and

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Speaker 1: rural healthcare, rural education. The water is not flowing red

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Speaker 1: or blue. It's just not flowing. And they want somebody

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Speaker 1: that's going to focus on that job. And I'm very

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Speaker 1: good about that. And in my first five years. I

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Speaker 1: was born on an Indian reservation for Peck Indian Reservation

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Speaker 1: in northeastern Montana. My dad was in the public Health Service.

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Speaker 1: He went on to becoming ob n for fifty years.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in Minnesota. My great grandfather was a

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Speaker 1: cattleman and Esco Minnesota outside of Duluth, and so I

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Speaker 1: have some rural roots in addition to living in the

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Speaker 1: mountain town now. But I'm a good listener and I

743
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Speaker 1: worked really hard and we connected with a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: And the phones are ringing off the hook because I

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Speaker 1: left a lot of messages last year and now it's

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Speaker 1: not taking nine months for people to return my phone

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Speaker 1: call anymore. Yeah, well, I do think that there really

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Speaker 1: is a real problem with rural representation. There's a caveat

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Speaker 1: to that, right, because there are a lot of rural

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Speaker 1: places attend red senators and congressman to Congress and the Senate.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is those people don't necessarily look out

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Speaker 1: for rural voters, and they're more tied to special interests.

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Speaker 1: So I do think, like, we've seen rural hospitals closed

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Speaker 1: at alarming rates, We've seen rural maternal fetal health rate,

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Speaker 1: you know, deaths rise. I mean, we do need people

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Speaker 1: looking out for rural people. The problem is these Republicans

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00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: don't do that. You lead into my number one statistics

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Speaker 1: I share. There's about thirty one counties in the country,

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Speaker 1: about thirty one and fifty counties in the country. Of that,

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Speaker 1: two thousand of them are deemed ruled by the Department

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Speaker 1: of Agriculture, two thousand and rural counties. In Bill Clinton

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Speaker 1: won more than fifty percent of the rural counties two

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Speaker 1: thousand and twelve. Barack Obama one of the rural counties

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Speaker 1: from President Biden one fewer than ten percent of the

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Speaker 1: rural counties in the country, and so the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: is twenty big cities Aspen and Tucket. Like that's kind

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00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: of what's left of the Democratic Party. And so I'm

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Speaker 1: spending a lot of time trying to not just focus

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Speaker 1: on CD three, but a little bit of time just

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00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: making the case that monopolies are bad and rule America

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Speaker 1: has a big monopoly issue with the Republican Party. And

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Speaker 1: so you know, we are in John Tester Joe Mansion country,

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Speaker 1: which not every Democrat wants to hear, but that's just

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Speaker 1: kind of the makeup of our district. It is an

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Speaker 1: ur ten district that that is egg in ranching and

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Speaker 1: farming and domestic energy production from solar and wind to

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Speaker 1: also gas and coal which starts to wind down as

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00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: it should and it needs to be done and everything

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Speaker 1: else like that. But we need to make sure it's

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Speaker 1: realistic about how we treat people and this rural aspect

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Speaker 1: of making sure that every zip code and rule America

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Speaker 1: has fought over by both parties. That's part of my

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Speaker 1: little mission as well. Yeah, and that's a really good mission.

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Speaker 1: And actually one of the things that happened during these

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Speaker 1: mid terms is that in North Dakota, especially Democrats didn't

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Speaker 1: run candidates in some of these races because they thought

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't lose, would lose, which of course they would.

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Speaker 1: But that is really a problem a for this idea

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Speaker 1: of getting elected in these rural areas, but also because

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00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: also because it's just so incredibly self defeating, it is hard.

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Speaker 1: But listen, I know it's hard to run. I can

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Speaker 1: vouch for that, especially in the district that's half the

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Speaker 1: state of Colorado geographically. But you know, the main messages.

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Speaker 1: I just think that the policies that the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: have are very beneficial to a lot of working class

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Speaker 1: Americans and that but Fox News has done a brilliant job,

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00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: quote unquote brilliant of taking a couple of sentences over

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Speaker 1: the past generation and really amplifying them and skewing them.

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Speaker 1: And it's turned into a very dimissive and demeaning brand

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Speaker 1: of Democrats to a lot of people in rural America.

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Speaker 1: And that's something I'm just trying to get over. Miles

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Speaker 1: by miles, I drive around in a pickup truck, right,

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Speaker 1: and the coffee houses and the breweries, and the beer

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00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: halls and and the barbecue joints. It's not Authinian exercise

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00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: to run for Congress in a place that has so

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00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: many good restaurants, but you know, the Democracy calls so

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00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: here I am, but you know, and that's the message

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00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: I've been having with people in Washington at the highest levels,

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Speaker 1: just to say, hey, listen, we've got to figure out

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Speaker 1: how to expand the base. And all these zip codes

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00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 1: are being left in the wind, and the messages there,

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00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: the policies are there. You just have to make sure

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Speaker 1: you get the right candidates that are willing to go

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Speaker 1: and really meet the people and hit the road, meet

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Speaker 1: them where they are physically as emotionally, and just be

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Speaker 1: a good listener because a lot of people just feel

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Speaker 1: like they've been left behind by a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: And that's what former President Trump, you know again quote

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Speaker 1: unquote brilliantly tapped into just that they just didn't feel

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Speaker 1: like no one who was speaking to them. The Democratic

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00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: Party used to be bad and it's left. My buddy

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Speaker 1: Dean Phillips again in Minnesota. Minnesota Democratic Party is called

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Speaker 1: the DFL the Democratic Farm Labor and said the Dems

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Speaker 1: have lost the fs, and they've left the elves and

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00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: they're left with the Dems and we need to do

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Speaker 1: a much better job of building back the farmers and

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Speaker 1: the working class labor movement, which is really important for

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Speaker 1: our right. And I don't think that that necessarily means

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Speaker 1: like sometimes you'll see people on the right saying, well,

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Speaker 1: that's why Democrats have to abandon being pro lgbt Q

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Speaker 1: or pro you know, choice, And I don't think it's binary.

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Speaker 1: I think that you can be I mean, Colorado is

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Speaker 1: a great example. You can be pro lgbt Q and

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Speaker 1: believe that people have the right to their own lives

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Speaker 1: and bodily autonomy and still want to build hospitals in

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Speaker 1: rural areas. So you know, it's interesting. Our district has

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Speaker 1: some of the highest support for Second Amendment in the country,

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Speaker 1: and it has a really high pro choice support. And

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Speaker 1: it goes back to whether you want to call it

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Speaker 1: the libertarian view or more of a kind of the

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00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: UB Party, which is just leave us alone. And I

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Speaker 1: met a lot of Republicans, a lot of Christian Evangelic

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00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: Evangelicas who are like, listen, I don't like abortion, but

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Speaker 1: the only thing worse than that is having the government

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Speaker 1: involved in it. And so it is a little bit

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Speaker 1: of just leave us alone out here. We live out

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Speaker 1: in rule and Western and southern Colorado. We're not in

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Speaker 1: the big city for a reason, and we just don't

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Speaker 1: want to government. You know, government should be there to

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Speaker 1: support when needed, but the less regulation the better. And

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Speaker 1: you see that on things that are more traditionally left

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Speaker 1: from our traditionally right and as you know, as the

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Speaker 1: son of Gioana fifty years that had bomb threats from

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Speaker 1: his father's office growing up in the seventies and eighties

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Speaker 1: in Minneapolis, I can attest to how important it is

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Speaker 1: important for the government to just be at a women's

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Speaker 1: healthcare decisions, and that resonates with some of the most

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Speaker 1: rule read yes in the country. It's different if you're

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Speaker 1: down in the South and Alabama, Mississippi, but out west

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Speaker 1: it is the you do you party and it's something

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Speaker 1: that resonates with a lot of people well. And I

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Speaker 1: would also say in the South there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of different voters in the South too, and and a

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Speaker 1: lot of them are pro choice. It's a very interesting coalition.

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Speaker 1: But I would say, um, I think that's right. And

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Speaker 1: I think the rural hospital stuff is just unconscionable that

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Speaker 1: we have places where you you know, it's hours and

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Speaker 1: hours to at a hospital and there, and and also

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Speaker 1: you know, we are seeing we need to take better

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Speaker 1: care of our trains and our infrastructure. And if that's

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Speaker 1: not clear from this week, I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what we're trying to work on, and that

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Speaker 1: infrastructure bill is really important. And you know, you know

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Speaker 1: represented Bobart. One of the things we talked about is

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Speaker 1: she's one of the few people that probably decides that

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Speaker 1: she does not want to try to have some of

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Speaker 1: that taxpayer based at Western and Southern Colorado pay in DC,

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Speaker 1: and she doesn't fight to try to bring that stuff back.

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Speaker 1: And if that money is not coming back to c

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Speaker 1: D three, it's showing up in Denver or Detroit, or

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Speaker 1: Newark or rural Kansas or rural Florida. And I made

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Speaker 1: it very very clear that it's really really important how

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Speaker 1: to figure out how to bring those resources back here.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot healthcare has a lot of moving parts.

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Speaker 1: But when you're an hour and a half away from

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Speaker 1: an urgent care center or two hours away, if you

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Speaker 1: have any type of pregnancy that's not just more of

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Speaker 1: a traditional normal pregnancy, those are real issues that are

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Speaker 1: facing to know people, and I'd love to see kind

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Speaker 1: of that money be returned to the taxpayers pay and

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Speaker 1: show up in the county health departments mental and physical,

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Speaker 1: and again block grants. Let the county officials decide where

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Speaker 1: that money should go. They're going to know better than

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Speaker 1: people in Denver, you see. But the money needs to

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Speaker 1: come because we just you know, we have some of

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Speaker 1: the poorest counties. We have some of the wealthiest and

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Speaker 1: the porest counties in the country. And I'm very focused

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Speaker 1: on you know, with all respect to my friends and

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Speaker 1: my neighbors up in Picking County where I live, I'm

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Speaker 1: really focused on those counties that are going to need

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Speaker 1: the help and have see huge transitions with energy and

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Speaker 1: agriculture and are dealing with a really big drought that

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Speaker 1: needs some focus. Adam, I hope you will come back

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Speaker 1: multiple times before you're a congress person. Always great to

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Speaker 1: chat with you, Molly Hope of a great week going ahead.

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Speaker 1: Jesse Cannon, Molly John Fast. You know, when those Fox

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Speaker 1: News emails come out, you see who they really are.

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Speaker 1: What was your favorite part where you see him? The

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Speaker 1: dominion filing was released on Friday night, and in it

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Speaker 1: we learned that Tucker, Shawn and Laura Ingram all knew

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Speaker 1: exactly what they were doing. They knew that there was

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Speaker 1: no election fraud and that they were just lying liars

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Speaker 1: who lie, And they texted each other and they were

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Speaker 1: very clear that they knew the truth and we're not

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Speaker 1: following it. And for that, they then poisoned the well

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Speaker 1: of many Americans. And there are still people in this

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Speaker 1: country who believe that the election was rigged? Was they rigged?

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Speaker 1: Did you enjoy more when it was ridiculous things like

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Speaker 1: them threatening to get fact checkers fired, or when they

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Speaker 1: said that Bruty Giuliani and City Power were insane but

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Speaker 1: kept having them on their shows. There were so many

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Speaker 1: moments that we had suspected were likely what was happening

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Speaker 1: backstage at Fox News, but it was still a bit

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Speaker 1: strange to actually see it firsthand. And a good lesson

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Speaker 1: here is that if you think that there's some real

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Speaker 1: corruption going on behind the scenes, sometimes there really is.

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Speaker 1: That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in

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Speaker 1: every Monday, Wednesday and Friday to her the best minds

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Speaker 1: and politics makes sense of all this chaos. If you

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Speaker 1: enjoyed what you've heard, please send it to a friend

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