WEBVTT - Boneheads

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to American Shadows, a production of iHeartRadio and

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<v Speaker 1>Grimm and Mild from Air and Manky.

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<v Speaker 2>The Victorian Age was a time of wonder. The people

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<v Speaker 2>were experiencing things that felt nothing short of magical. They

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<v Speaker 2>saw their cities light up with electricity. They sat for

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<v Speaker 2>new fangled cameras and took home images of themselves on

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<v Speaker 2>silver plates. Cable lines carried their telegrams to loved ones

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of miles away. Their disembodied voices flowed through telephone receivers.

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<v Speaker 2>They also witnessed the invention of dinosaurs. Dinosaurs, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>lived and died far before anyone, let alone people of

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<v Speaker 2>the Victorian era, ever stepped foot on this planet. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was this generation when the dinosaur's story began again.

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<v Speaker 2>Humans had been unearthing strangely fossilized bones and other remains

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<v Speaker 2>for centuries, but what were they, exactly where did they

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<v Speaker 2>come from? The debate had long been heated. Some believed

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<v Speaker 2>they were left by the devil, others thought they were

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<v Speaker 2>remnants of Noah's flood. At the time in Europe, most

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize that these were the remains of creatures who

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<v Speaker 2>had lived a very long time ago. The study of

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<v Speaker 2>these remnants began to codify in the seventeen hundreds, as

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<v Speaker 2>paleontology got its start. The term finds its origin in

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<v Speaker 2>the Greek words for ancient palaeo, being anto and study ology.

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<v Speaker 2>Curious minds began to classify and label these bits and

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<v Speaker 2>pieces of ancient beings, trying to make sense of what

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<v Speaker 2>they once were. Fossils supported the theories presented in Charles

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<v Speaker 2>Darwin's On the Origin of the Species, which to the

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<v Speaker 2>Victorian mind was either hugely exciting or hugely blasphemed. In

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen fifty one, Britain launched their Great Exhibition, a showing

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<v Speaker 2>of magnificent resources pillaged from their colonies. They hired a

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<v Speaker 2>man by the name of Joseph Paxton to design and

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<v Speaker 2>construct a showcase, and he did just that, building a

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<v Speaker 2>massive structure of steel and glass, naming it the Crystal Palace.

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<v Speaker 2>A British sculptor and natural history illustrator, Benjamin Waterhouse Hawkins,

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<v Speaker 2>was hired to fill it up. Benjamin was taken by

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<v Speaker 2>the ideas of the natural world and had designs on

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<v Speaker 2>giving humanity something that had never seen before. He set

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<v Speaker 2>his sights on creating sculptures of all kinds of extinct

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<v Speaker 2>animals and placing them among greenery. He received advice from

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<v Speaker 2>famed paleontologist Sir Richard Owen, the fellow who had only

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<v Speaker 2>recently coined the word dinosaur, and so Benjamin got to work.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked at notes, diagrams, and the fossils themselves. He

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of parts, but not a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>direction for how to assemble them. But he had his

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<v Speaker 2>artistic sensibility and a vague understanding of anatomy, and knew

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<v Speaker 2>how to take big swings. What was also true was

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<v Speaker 2>that no one was going to know if he was wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Benjamin began constructing his hulking beasts with a combination of clay, brick, tiles,

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<v Speaker 2>and cement, all supported on iron columns. Some contained thirty

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<v Speaker 2>tons of clay. He built thirty three different creatures and

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<v Speaker 2>placed them in the palace's green gardens. These were the

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<v Speaker 2>first life sized models of dinosaurs ever constructed. Visitors could

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<v Speaker 2>walk right up to a creature that supposedly existed many

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<v Speaker 2>millions of years ago, something that seemed inconceivable to the

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<v Speaker 2>minds of so many The sculptures ended up being wildly

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<v Speaker 2>popular and are still on display in London today. In retrospect,

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<v Speaker 2>Benjamin statues are rife with error, and to our modern eye,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes silly looking, but they represented some thing hugely important.

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<v Speaker 2>They've acted as touchstones by which we can measure scientific

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<v Speaker 2>progress and acknowledge our own evolutions in thought and theory.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Victorians thought they knew a lot, then it's

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<v Speaker 2>become more clear in contemporary times how much we simply

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Today paleo illustrators are constantly updating what they

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<v Speaker 2>know about dinosaurs and trying to more accurately represent them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tall order to try to perfectly recreate an

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<v Speaker 2>animal based only on its fossils. Even still, we feel

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<v Speaker 2>compelled to know who and what has walked before us.

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<v Speaker 2>And for some this question has turned into a fascination,

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<v Speaker 2>which then morphed into obsession. And where obsession arises, so

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<v Speaker 2>often does a good story. I'm Lauren Bogelbaum. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>American Shadows. When Andrew Carnegie unfolded his newspaper that morning

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<v Speaker 2>in eighteen ninety nine, he read the front page, headlined

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<v Speaker 2>exclaiming that the most colossal animal ever on Earth had

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<v Speaker 2>been discovered. He knew that it had to be his.

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<v Speaker 2>There was nothing that the richest man in the world

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<v Speaker 2>wanted that he couldn't have. Andrew Carnegie was a product

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<v Speaker 2>and poster boy of the Gilded Age. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>time of glitter and gold, of ostentatious wealth and opulence.

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<v Speaker 2>Author Mark Twain coined the term to characterize the new

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<v Speaker 2>American aristocracy that was on the rise in the period

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<v Speaker 2>after the Civil War. The country was hitting a growth spurt.

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<v Speaker 2>The railroads and laws benefiting industrial production infused the country

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<v Speaker 2>with jobs and money, But underneath that guilt veneer there

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<v Speaker 2>was darkness and corruption. A new class of people were

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<v Speaker 2>forged at this moment. The industrialists the money largely lined

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<v Speaker 2>their pockets and created a system of social inequity unlike

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<v Speaker 2>anything America had ever seen before. They wielded power unmatched

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<v Speaker 2>by politicians and often made the rules by which others

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<v Speaker 2>had to play. The tycoons and lawmakers scratched each other's

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<v Speaker 2>backs and cut back room deals, amassing wealth while exploiting

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<v Speaker 2>the working class. Every major business, from railroads to timber, meatpacking,

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<v Speaker 2>to steel and oil to tobacco, came under the pull

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<v Speaker 2>of these captains of industry. That money needed to go somewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>a spending became almost a performance art, as the moneyed

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<v Speaker 2>class erected massive homes, through lavish parties and curated exquisite collections.

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<v Speaker 2>Carnegie was able to purchase the dinosaur that he had

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<v Speaker 2>read about, but it fell short of his expectations. It

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<v Speaker 2>just wasn't grand enough not to be discouraged. He commissioned

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<v Speaker 2>his own fossil hunting team to find a dinosaur that

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be bigger and better than anything anyone

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<v Speaker 2>had ever seen, and they did just that, discovering a

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<v Speaker 2>fossil in Wyoming that was over seventy feet long and

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<v Speaker 2>weighed more than fourteen tons. This new species was named

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<v Speaker 2>after him, the Diplodocus carnegie Eye. Andrew Carnegie was just

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<v Speaker 2>one of many who hopped on the prehistoric bandwagon. The

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<v Speaker 2>rich loved their dinosaurs. They were big, they were expensive

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<v Speaker 2>to find, they were rare, there were limited quantities of them.

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<v Speaker 2>These qualifications created a national hunger that many would go

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<v Speaker 2>to great lengths to satisfy. The moment leading up to

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<v Speaker 2>Carnegie's purchase was marked by a blazing period of intense excavation,

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<v Speaker 2>spearheaded by two men entangled in an intense rivalry off.

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<v Speaker 2>Neil Marsh, the first professor of paleontology in the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>and Edward Cope, a wealthy enthusiast, had long been a pair,

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<v Speaker 2>embattled and embittered, dueling for palaeontological supremacy, power, and fame.

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<v Speaker 2>These two men were different worlds. As individuals, they embodied

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<v Speaker 2>the social and economic differences of the Gilded Age. Marsh

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<v Speaker 2>was born on October twenty ninth of eighteen thirty one

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<v Speaker 2>in Lockport, New York, to a family with little money

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<v Speaker 2>in fewer connections. His father was a farmer and his

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<v Speaker 2>mother was soon dead. Marsh's mother had been the younger

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<v Speaker 2>sister of George Peabody, a wealthy banker and philanthropist. Marsh

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<v Speaker 2>might have gone on to become a farmer like his father,

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<v Speaker 2>but his uncle stepped in and paid for his education.

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<v Speaker 2>He eventually made his way to Yale, where he became

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<v Speaker 2>utterly taken by Darwin and his new ideas on evolution.

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<v Speaker 2>This would become his life's work, and he soon went

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<v Speaker 2>on to pursue an education at the University of Berlin.

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<v Speaker 2>It was there, in eighteen sixty three that he met

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<v Speaker 2>a wealthy, fiery classmate named Edward Cope. They shared similar

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<v Speaker 2>interests and friends, though their approaches to life and study

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<v Speaker 2>were radically different. Marsh was studious and regimented a while

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<v Speaker 2>Cope took a more unconventional approach to his education, preferring travel,

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<v Speaker 2>on the job, training, and mentorship. The Cope saw Darwin's

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<v Speaker 2>origin of the species as the key to unlocking the

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<v Speaker 2>secrets of life on Earth, whereas Marsh harbored more conventional

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<v Speaker 2>religious beliefs and regarded life as a project and intentional

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<v Speaker 2>gradual design. Even so, both remained in touch after they

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<v Speaker 2>returned to the United States and kicked off their palaeontological careers.

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<v Speaker 2>In time, they would even name some new discoveries after

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<v Speaker 2>each other. Cope and Marsh continued their relationship via correspondence,

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<v Speaker 2>sending manuscripts of papers they planned to write, along with

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<v Speaker 2>fossils and photos back and forth. They could have been

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<v Speaker 2>great collaborators, but instead, as it often does, greed got

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<v Speaker 2>in their way. The road to success wouldn't be paved

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<v Speaker 2>in bones for these two men, it was often paved

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<v Speaker 2>with sabotage. The Great dinosaur Rush was about to begin.

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<v Speaker 2>Cope and Marsh had a love hate relationship in frenemies.

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<v Speaker 2>If you will. They respected each other's brilliance in verve,

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<v Speaker 2>but simmering under all of that were egos that needed

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<v Speaker 2>to be sated. Upon their returns from Berlin, Cope and

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<v Speaker 2>Marsh worked together on many digs, celebrating and squabbling in

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<v Speaker 2>equal measure. But one project in eighteen sixty eight would

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<v Speaker 2>set the stage for their greatest disagreement yet. Southern New

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<v Speaker 2>Jersey is home to a singular deposit of this strange,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful green sand, leftover from a time millions of years

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<v Speaker 2>ago when the place was underwater. It's rich in glauconite,

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<v Speaker 2>a green mineral that characterizes the deposit, and also it

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<v Speaker 2>seems rich in fossils. A Cope wanted to dig there,

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<v Speaker 2>and he invited Marsh to come along. They set out

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<v Speaker 2>to New Jersey to make some discoveries, make some names,

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<v Speaker 2>and make some money. They knew that everything that could

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<v Speaker 2>be found there would be incredibly valuable, especially now that

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<v Speaker 2>more people were collecting fossils than ever before. They hired

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<v Speaker 2>teams of people to help them. The dirty business of

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<v Speaker 2>digging up fossils required many hands and lots of organization,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was imperative that they find the right labor

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<v Speaker 2>to do the job. Scouts and site managers, operators and

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<v Speaker 2>diggers were soon on site for their part. Cope and

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<v Speaker 2>Marsh analyzed, cataloged, and then shipped these discoveries back to

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<v Speaker 2>their offices via hired railroad workers. And because this was

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<v Speaker 2>Cope's dig, anything that was discovered technically belonged to him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's here in these silty green sands they unearthed all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of beautiful creatures, including ancient turtles and crocodiles that

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<v Speaker 2>died over sixty six million years ago. They found dinosaur

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<v Speaker 2>bones and giant sea bound lizards. As they broke down

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<v Speaker 2>camp and parted ways, they shook hands amicably and wished

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<v Speaker 2>each other well. But what Cope didn't realize was that

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<v Speaker 2>Marsh had bribed the laborers to siphon off some of

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<v Speaker 2>their fines back to his office in New Haven, Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 2>And when Cope soon learned about this, he felt utterly

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<v Speaker 2>betrayed and absolutely furious. This, however, didn't stop them from

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<v Speaker 2>continuing to work together. They admired each other intensely, bitterly,

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<v Speaker 2>and jealously. They each knew the other had connections, institutional resources,

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<v Speaker 2>and smarts, which further fanned the flames of their rivalry.

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<v Speaker 2>At times they were the best of frenemies. They would

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<v Speaker 2>do almost anything to get a leg up on the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Both had great personal wealth and were willing to throw

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<v Speaker 2>money at their problems. It didn't take them long to

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<v Speaker 2>start playing dirtier. Even though fossil hunting began on the

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<v Speaker 2>East coast, the situation soon became the Wheiled West, a

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<v Speaker 2>total free for all in the race for scientific glory

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<v Speaker 2>and the money that came with truly rare and unique fines.

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<v Speaker 2>In one instance, Marsh publicly humiliated Cope when he pointed

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<v Speaker 2>out that his reconstruction of a water bound plesiosaur called

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<v Speaker 2>an elasmosaurus was incorrect because in his reconstruction, Cope had

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<v Speaker 2>put the head at the end of the short tail

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<v Speaker 2>instead of at the end of the long neck. After

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<v Speaker 2>they called in other experts to settle the dispute, a

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<v Speaker 2>Cope was horrified to realize that he and everything he

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<v Speaker 2>had recently published about his discovery was indeed incorrect. The

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<v Speaker 2>whole field became a battleground for their squabbling as they

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<v Speaker 2>rushed to both pull in other scientists and flood the

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<v Speaker 2>field with their own publishing. As they rushed, they got sloppy,

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<v Speaker 2>Cope started pushing further west into Kansas and Wyoming, what

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<v Speaker 2>Marsh considered his territory for finding fossils. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>gentleman's understand that each had their own turf, but Cope

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<v Speaker 2>decided he would no longer abide by these arbitrary rules.

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<v Speaker 2>Any kind of warmth between them chilled in eighteen seventy two.

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<v Speaker 2>As they pushed further and further west, they became desperate

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<v Speaker 2>to outdo each other, pumping more and more resources into

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<v Speaker 2>digging up the earth. They also weren't actually at the

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<v Speaker 2>pits that were being excavated. They relied solely young collectors

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<v Speaker 2>to get them what they wanted and to ship everything

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<v Speaker 2>back east. It was an exercise of trust, it seems,

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<v Speaker 2>and in the haze of paranoia around their own relationship

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<v Speaker 2>a Cope and Marsh failed to realize the secondary duplicity

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<v Speaker 2>at hand. You see, the market for bones and other

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<v Speaker 2>fossils was prone to fraud. There was no established regulatory

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<v Speaker 2>framework for how to do all this, and these vines

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<v Speaker 2>often traveled great distances over large amounts of time. It

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<v Speaker 2>was hard to keep track of contracts and laborers. Whatever

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<v Speaker 2>arrived in crates was usually going to be what you got.

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<v Speaker 2>As the railroads moved further west and explorers and colonists followed,

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of lines were established and plenty of hands were

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<v Speaker 2>willing to get paleontologists like Marsh and Cope what they wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>These folks were often paid well by their scientist bosses,

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<v Speaker 2>but the handsome pay didn't necessarily guarantee worker loyalty. Those

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<v Speaker 2>muscling the dirt knew that their labor and their fines

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<v Speaker 2>were in high demand, and their affections could be bought.

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<v Speaker 2>In eighteen seventy three, Marsh wrote publicly that he believed

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<v Speaker 2>half of his discoveries in the West were poached from

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<v Speaker 2>him in this way. In that same year, the scientific

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<v Speaker 2>journal The American Naturalist decided that it would stop publishing

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<v Speaker 2>any materials from either scientist, even though Cope later had

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<v Speaker 2>a huge ownership stake in the publication. There was one dig, though,

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<v Speaker 2>that would prove to end all digs. It was discuss covered.

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<v Speaker 2>The Como Bluff, Wyoming, was home to one of the

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<v Speaker 2>richest bone quarries ever discovered. The bones and other fossils

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<v Speaker 2>at Coma Bluff were discovered in eighteen seventy seven by

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<v Speaker 2>geologist Arthur Lakes. It was a veritable gold mine, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the richest deposits ever found. It would become known

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<v Speaker 2>as the Morrison Formation, a huge span of sediment that

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<v Speaker 2>reaches from New Mexico to Montana. It stretches back, encompassing

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<v Speaker 2>over two hundred million years, and would go on to

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<v Speaker 2>teach us much of what we know about the Jurassic Period.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, though, all Lakes knew was that this

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<v Speaker 2>was a singular repository, and he quickly sent word back east.

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<v Speaker 2>He tried Marsh first, but Marsh was slow to respond. Impatient,

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<v Speaker 2>he sent some findings to Cope. When Marsh heard this,

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<v Speaker 2>he kicked into gear. Marsh was able to send out

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<v Speaker 2>his representatives first. They reported back that there were miles

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<v Speaker 2>of bones right for the picking. He worked quickly to

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<v Speaker 2>secure the site for himself with all the labor his

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<v Speaker 2>good money could buy. He was eager to get his

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<v Speaker 2>hands on anything that was dug up and promptly started negotiating.

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<v Speaker 2>The specimens were enormous and numerous. Cope, for his part,

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<v Speaker 2>thought nothing of Marsh's claim and refused to be deterred.

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<v Speaker 2>The race was once again on from Marsian Cope and

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<v Speaker 2>although neither was personally at the bluff, they sent workers,

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<v Speaker 2>including former students. It didn't take long for Cope's men

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<v Speaker 2>to start encroaching on the territory that Marsh had staked out.

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<v Speaker 2>Marsh knew that this was where he needed to dig

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<v Speaker 2>to outpace Cope. In truth, Marsh might not have become

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<v Speaker 2>involved with this dig's location at all if Cope hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>sent the team. At that point in his career, Marsh

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<v Speaker 2>was far more interested in mammalion specimens than dinosaur bones,

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<v Speaker 2>but once heard Cope's team had shown up, he refused

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<v Speaker 2>to be outshined. So there they were, warring factions on

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<v Speaker 2>a bluff under the sun, furiously digging and conducting shady dealings.

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<v Speaker 2>Each scientist was determined to get the upper hand and

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<v Speaker 2>started paying more money to their workers to keep them

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<v Speaker 2>digging and keep them loyal. They worked tirelessly back east,

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<v Speaker 2>intercepting huge wooden crates and publishing at a breakneck clip.

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<v Speaker 2>Efforts of other paleontologists who showed up paled in comparison

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<v Speaker 2>to these feverish and bitter operations. They planted fossils and

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<v Speaker 2>locations where they weren't discovered to confuse the other, they

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<v Speaker 2>bribed quarry owners to pull fossils out before they could

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<v Speaker 2>be observed and documented. Their rivalry had become an all

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<v Speaker 2>out war, rife with bad blood and explosions. Literally, it

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<v Speaker 2>was reported that they had ordered the dynamiting of their

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<v Speaker 2>completed dig sites lest any yet to be discovered bones

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<v Speaker 2>fell into the world wrong hands. They continued to fight

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<v Speaker 2>in the pages of academic journals and newspapers. They mutually

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<v Speaker 2>attempted to sabotage each other's funding in efforts to slow

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<v Speaker 2>down their respective careers and stardom. Their community was growing

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<v Speaker 2>tired of the very public performance of their spite and

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<v Speaker 2>called into question their ability to even do their jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Their work was often sloppy, rife with careless errors, and

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<v Speaker 2>people knew about the shady dealings they were willing to

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<v Speaker 2>engage with in order to bolster their reputations. It's said

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<v Speaker 2>that competition breeds progress, and in one sense this rings true.

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<v Speaker 2>This period was one of the most productive in the

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<v Speaker 2>history of paleontology. Lay people were astounded and captivated by

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<v Speaker 2>their very public duelings and were often inspired by their discoveries.

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<v Speaker 2>Marti and Kpe were able to uncover some of the

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<v Speaker 2>world's most famous dinosaurs that we know and love today

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<v Speaker 2>include the Stegosaurus, the triceratops, the Alosaurus, and eventually one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most fearsome of all, the Tyrannosaurus wrecks. Without

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<v Speaker 2>their flaring tempers and growing contempt for each other, it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to say what we would know or not know

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<v Speaker 2>about dinosaurs today. But for all the progress that they made,

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<v Speaker 2>their rivalry ultimately destroyed Martian Cope. However, if we were

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<v Speaker 2>asked to tally numbers for a winner and a loser

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<v Speaker 2>in all of this, technically Marsh won their competition. He

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<v Speaker 2>discovered and named eighty new species, compared with copes fifty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Even so, they never quite retired. The rivalry between the

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<v Speaker 2>two men lasted until the day they died, when Cope

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<v Speaker 2>made one last bet. The decades long fight between Marsh

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<v Speaker 2>and Cope ended tragically for both of them after thirty

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<v Speaker 2>years of public feuding. Cope lay dying surrounded by shelves

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<v Speaker 2>full of his beloved specimens to which he had devoted

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<v Speaker 2>his entire life. He had been sick for a long while,

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<v Speaker 2>plagued by chronic illnesses. The nature of those were never determined,

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<v Speaker 2>but he had found ways to self medicate. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really trust doctors. Instead, he came up with an all

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<v Speaker 2>natural cure, belladonna. In small doses, it can help with

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of things, but he didn't take the right doses.

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<v Speaker 2>He took it in small amounts, but too often this

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately would lead to his end. He worked right up

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<v Speaker 2>until he died on April twelfth of eighteen ninety seven. However,

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<v Speaker 2>Cope wasn't content to let the war go, and just

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<v Speaker 2>before he passed, he sent a challenge to Marsh. He

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<v Speaker 2>wrote in his will, I direct that after my funeral,

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<v Speaker 2>my body shall be presented to the Anthropometric Society, and

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<v Speaker 2>then an autopsy shall be performed on it. My brain

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<v Speaker 2>shall be preserved in their collection of brains for future study.

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<v Speaker 2>In effect, Cope wanted to see who had the bigger brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Marsh died on March eighteenth of eighteen ninety nine, effectively

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<v Speaker 2>bringing the Bone Wars to an end. He never did

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<v Speaker 2>turn over his brain to science, so we'll never know

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<v Speaker 2>who the winner of that final battle would have been.

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<v Speaker 2>There's more to this story. Stick around after this brief

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<v Speaker 2>sponsor break to hear all about it. After the Great

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<v Speaker 2>Dinosaur Rush of what became known as the Bone Wars.

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<v Speaker 2>Fossil Hunting continued to be a favorite pastime among the

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<v Speaker 2>wealthy and educated for decades. In nineteen ten, a very

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<v Speaker 2>aristocrat and paleontologist by the name of Ernst freher Stromer

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<v Speaker 2>von Reichenbach set out for a dig in the Egyptian

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<v Speaker 2>desert outside of Cairo. He partnered up with Richard mcgroff,

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<v Speaker 2>an Austrian fossil hunter, and together they found a glorious

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<v Speaker 2>horde of all kinds of marine creatures. But it would

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<v Speaker 2>be two years before their most spectacular discovery of all.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometime between sixty and one hundred million years ago, an

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<v Speaker 2>enormous predator died. It had long spines on its back,

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<v Speaker 2>a crocodile like jaw, and massive teeth. When Ernst came

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<v Speaker 2>upon its skeleton all of those years later, he was stunned.

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<v Speaker 2>In life, this creature was likely unmatched by any foe.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was such an astounding and terrifying proposition in death,

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<v Speaker 2>imagine what it could have been in life. Ernst named

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<v Speaker 2>it Spinosaurus egypticus, or the Egyptian spine lizard. Ernst removed

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<v Speaker 2>the skeleton, then brought it to Munich's Paleontological Museum, and

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<v Speaker 2>there it was proudly on display for many years, bringing

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<v Speaker 2>him great acclaim. It stayed there quietly as a new

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<v Speaker 2>kind of terror rolled through Europe the Nazi Party. Ernst

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<v Speaker 2>was nervous. His sons were fighting on the front lines,

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<v Speaker 2>and he realized that the relentless bombing campaigns posed a

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<v Speaker 2>threat not just to them, but to their treasured artifacts

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<v Speaker 2>as well. He begged the head of the museum to

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<v Speaker 2>move the fossil to safety, but the man was a

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<v Speaker 2>Nazi sympathizer and had long ago stopped listening to anything

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<v Speaker 2>Ernst had to say, political or otherwise. The spinosaurus was

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<v Speaker 2>s mearily destroyed by Allied forces when they dropped a

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<v Speaker 2>bomb on Munich. It died a second death that day,

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<v Speaker 2>living on only in notes and drawings and Ernst's memory.

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<v Speaker 2>He was heartbroken by the magnitude of what the war

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<v Speaker 2>did to his family, his country, and his career, and

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<v Speaker 2>he died soon after in nineteen fifty two. The spinosaurus

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<v Speaker 2>was remembered in the paleontology community as something of a legend.

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<v Speaker 2>There were so many unanswered questions about how and where

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<v Speaker 2>it had lived, and the perfection of the fossil was

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<v Speaker 2>wholly unmatched. It suggested a new kind of dinosaur that

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<v Speaker 2>scientists had never considered, a semi aquatic creatures that thrived

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<v Speaker 2>both on land and in the water. A fully constructed

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<v Speaker 2>spinosaurus had never been discovered before, and there were questions

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<v Speaker 2>as to whether another one ever would. For about another century,

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<v Speaker 2>the spinosaurus drifted into oblivion. That is, of course, until

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<v Speaker 2>a young doctoral student stepped onto the scene. In two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and eight. Nazarre Ibrahim was conducting research on the

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<v Speaker 2>border of Morocco and Algeria when he met a local

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<v Speaker 2>Bedouin fossil hunter. Nazar took a close look at the

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<v Speaker 2>specimens he was offered and cataloged the findings in his memory.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a year later when he was shown a

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<v Speaker 2>newly discovered partial skeleton of a potential spinosaurus. Then he

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<v Speaker 2>noticed something some distinct purple and yellow sediment he recognized

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<v Speaker 2>from the year before. He was suddenly struck by the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that he might have accidentally run into two halves

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<v Speaker 2>of a whole dinosaurs. So he went back to Morocco,

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<v Speaker 2>hoping to find his Bedouin friend, but with no cell

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<v Speaker 2>phone number or email address. He hoped for good luck.

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<v Speaker 2>For days, he looked for him, asking all around and

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<v Speaker 2>searching the streets. It all seemed fruitless, until one day

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<v Speaker 2>he was at a cafe and the very same man

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<v Speaker 2>walked by. Nazarre jumped up and chased him down and

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<v Speaker 2>convinced him to bring him to the spot where the

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<v Speaker 2>bones he had initially seen were dug up from. He

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<v Speaker 2>got his wish, and here began the next stage of

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<v Speaker 2>Nazar's life work and that of the Spinosaurus. With new

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<v Speaker 2>science and technology, Nazar has been hard at work putting

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<v Speaker 2>together the life story of the spinosaurus and picking up

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<v Speaker 2>where Ernst left off. We may never know the whole

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<v Speaker 2>truth as to how these creatures lived and died, but

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<v Speaker 2>science is allowing us to paint a more complete picture.

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<v Speaker 2>The debates will long continue over these animals, and careers

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<v Speaker 2>and reputations will be staked on who can make the

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<v Speaker 2>more convincing and compelling argument. We may never know everything,

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<v Speaker 2>but that won't stop us from trying.

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<v Speaker 1>American Shadows as hosted by Lauren Vogelbaum. This episode was

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<v Speaker 1>written by Robin Miniature, researched by Ali Steed, and produced

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<v Speaker 1>by Miranda Hawkins and Trevor Young, with executive producers Aaron Mankey,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Williams, and Matt Frederick. To learn more about the show,

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