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Speaker 1: What is going on by people John Middlecoff Three and

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Speaker 1: Out Podcast, How is everybody doing on this little chili January? Uh,

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Speaker 1: the day after the a f C and NFC championship games,

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Speaker 1: and we will dive into that. Obviously, there was some

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Speaker 1: drama post the Packer game. Have some thoughts in regards

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Speaker 1: to the m v P Most Valuable Player of the

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Speaker 1: of m v P s and also won his fair

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Speaker 1: share of championship games. Tom Brady. Uh, we'll dive into

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Speaker 1: some of the uh, Matt stafford rumors, Robert Sala and

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Speaker 1: what he has not said, some stuff going around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and of course the Middlecoff mailbag at John Middlecoff is

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Speaker 1: asked whatever you want. I got a bunch of questions all. So,

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Speaker 1: If you want to leave one star, you can do

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Speaker 1: that too. People have before, Sure they'll do it again,

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Speaker 1: but it helps with everything that's going on. So Let's

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Speaker 1: start with Aaron Rodgers, the m v P of the league.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, He's the story even though he lost. Right

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Speaker 1: Mahomes going to a second Super Bowl. Tom Brady is

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Speaker 1: is what is he going on? His tenth Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Been in a million championship games? And Rogers, to me

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Speaker 1: is by far the biggest story. And we talked about

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Speaker 1: it last week on the In terms of the pressure,

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Speaker 1: I ranked the pressure and I said the Packers had

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Speaker 1: There's just no way around that. The Bucks didn't even

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Speaker 1: play well. I guess they played well for a half,

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Speaker 1: just couldn't get it done. Now, I'm not blaming Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: I thought Rogers played a solid game. Was it like

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Speaker 1: his elite game? No? Was it a bad game? No?

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Speaker 1: I thought y'all played Brady. But all that matters is

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Speaker 1: the fourth time in that game and the first time

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Speaker 1: He's played that game five times in his career. First time,

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Speaker 1: a devastating loss. And then after the game, Rogers had

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Speaker 1: any other player on that roster. He's the most important

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Speaker 1: He did it twice last year. This year in a

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Speaker 1: and he won the one. And I think if you

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Speaker 1: ask a lot of people in that area, Peak Farv

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Speaker 1: was just a free show and he was young. The

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Speaker 1: team was coming home. Grinn Reggie why. It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Special team. As a Niner fan growing up, I remember

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Speaker 1: it was towards the end of that era Maruchi, Seafort

431
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Speaker 1: and that team that they gave the Nighters trouble. That

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Speaker 1: team was excellent and Farv was a special player. There

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Speaker 1: was a special aura around far right, a fun like

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Speaker 1: a like every person, whether you were sixty years old

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Speaker 1: or whether you were like me that was ten or

436
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Speaker 1: twelve years old, you kind of gravitated toward him like

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Speaker 1: that dude is a badass. I want to be like

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Speaker 1: Brett Farve. You know. It was just it was a

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Speaker 1: cool team. It became a national team. I saw it

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Speaker 1: several years ago in my backyard with the Golden State

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Speaker 1: Warriors Staff Clay. They were fun, They just people. They

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Speaker 1: drew people to them. It was something special. It was unique,

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Speaker 1: and I think you know unique when you see it.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen that often. Like Rogers is an unreal player,

445
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Speaker 1: but like there was something just different with Farve Rogers

446
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: a better player in Farve. Farv was cooler. He just was.

447
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Speaker 1: You could argue far even Brady. I didn't really see

448
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Speaker 1: Montana and his peak Manning. I saw a little bit

449
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Speaker 1: of older Railway. Far Of might be the coolest player

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. That might not be the case anymore,

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Speaker 1: because I think Andy what he has going right now

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Speaker 1: with his quarterback in his offense, this is like the

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Speaker 1: modern day five. Now. I think Mahomes has a chance

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Speaker 1: to have a much more consistent career, and he's off

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Speaker 1: to a similar start of just taking people out left

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Speaker 1: and right. He's already won an m V p uh.

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Speaker 1: He's surely gonna win another one, you know in his career.

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Speaker 1: He's going to back to back Super Bowls early on

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Speaker 1: in his career. Right, this is his This is fourth

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Speaker 1: year in the NFL, so his first year, second year,

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Speaker 1: last year was third, so this is fourth year in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. He's already played in three a f C

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Speaker 1: Championship games. You basically read shirt of that first year

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Speaker 1: and his chance to be a back to back champion.

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Speaker 1: And when you watch Mahomes when he's healthy, and he

466
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Speaker 1: surely looked healthy with the turf toe, which they must

467
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Speaker 1: have given him something pretty good on the toe. He

468
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Speaker 1: is the most fun player we've had in a long

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Speaker 1: long time. And we've had a lot of fun players

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Speaker 1: over the years, like Lamar's fun. Cam Newton was fun.

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Speaker 1: You know, Ben when he was younger was fun. Manning

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Speaker 1: and Brady were just unreal players. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they're they're fun if you're like a fan of their team,

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Speaker 1: but they're just like kind of old school, don't move.

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Speaker 1: They're just great players. Mahomes is just box office. I

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Speaker 1: mean he truly is. Like Josh Allen is a special talent.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen has a chance to be an excellent player

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Speaker 1: in the NFL for a long time. He can't hold

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Speaker 1: Mahomes jock. And I think Josh Allen's gonna get like

480
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Speaker 1: a hundred forty million dollars this offseason, and I'll say

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Speaker 1: it's the right move. They gave him a Holmes a

482
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Speaker 1: ten year extension. He's only in year one of that

483
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Speaker 1: twelve year deal because he had two years left on

484
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Speaker 1: his contract, then he gets ten years. It's a bargain,

485
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Speaker 1: like they would do that over ten out of ten times,

486
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Speaker 1: he's worth double whatever they gave them. Do you understand

487
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Speaker 1: what Mahomes has been worth to the Chiefs, to Andy's career,

488
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Speaker 1: to Clark Hunt, Like Andy was a great coach, he

489
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Speaker 1: was widely you know, it was agreed upon that he

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Speaker 1: was a top two or three offensive coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: People like me do anyone that had been around him

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Speaker 1: always went to bat and said, I think this guy

493
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Speaker 1: is almost underrated, But you could never it was hard,

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Speaker 1: like you'd lose an argument. Belichick was in his own

495
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Speaker 1: little tier. And then guys you know, the Tomlins and

496
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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, some of those guys, they just had rings,

497
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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll even Hardball. I don't think it's arguable, like

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Speaker 1: how's Andy not? And he's better than all those guys.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to just annoint Belichick, he had

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Speaker 1: the greatest twenty year run in the history of the league.

501
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: And if you just want to rank every other person,

502
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: like how's Andy not? The best coach in the NFL?

503
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: And any good coach worth their salt will always tell

504
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 1: you like most good coaches usually are associated with great players,

505
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: and he had great players throughout his career. Maybe great

506
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: would be strong, but like good players. McNabb vic even

507
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: Alex was a really good player, but they had really

508
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: good defensive players and some of those early Chiefs team.

509
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: He gets Mahomes and now it's like is and he

510
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: read the best coach in the league. He's about to

511
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Speaker 1: win back to back championships. Potentially. I think it's a

512
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Speaker 1: coaching mismatch, Like there's not a GM in the league

513
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Speaker 1: that would take Arians over Andy, and Arians a good coach,

514
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: but it's this this bad Boy's a mismatch. And I

515
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: just in two thousand twenty one, I'm just trusting Mahomes

516
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: more than Brady. That sounds crazy, but like, I'm just

517
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Speaker 1: taking my Homes over the forty three year old, and

518
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: he's just he's got a chance because listen, the NFL

519
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: has written a lot of great quarterbacks over the last

520
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: couple of decades, guys that moved the needle, and no

521
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Speaker 1: one did more than Brady twenty years, all those Super Bowls,

522
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Speaker 1: some of the controversies he became. He's the most famous

523
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Speaker 1: football player in the history of the sport. I honestly

524
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: don't even think it's debatable. And then you had guys

525
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Speaker 1: like kind of his some of his contemporaries that weren't

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Speaker 1: his equals. But we're like the next here in her

527
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: hall of famers, right, Manning gone, Breeze gone, Roethlisberger hanging

528
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: on by a thread. He'll be gone soon, Rivers gone,

529
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Speaker 1: Eli who became really famous because he's Peyton's brother, Andy

530
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Speaker 1: beat Manning or I mean Brady, And the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: is gone. So now you're very dependent on this kind

532
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Speaker 1: of young crew, which like Lamar can't really pass. Josh

533
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Speaker 1: Allen's got some issues. Deshawn's team sucks, thank God from

534
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: Mahomes because if Mahomes can bank two super Bowls early,

535
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: his superstar status is already through the roof. Never forget Brady.

536
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: What made Brady's so special is he banked three championships

537
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: in his first five years in the league, and he

538
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: had it would be the equivalent of like real life.

539
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: So much money in the bank, you get to kind

540
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: of just take some chances from then on out, and

541
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: it's easy to accumulate wealth. If I start you a

542
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: fifty million in the bank. It's why it's so difficult

543
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: for most quarterbacks to ever just get that first one.

544
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: Look at Rogers, He's been having the one ring for

545
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: a decade. He can't He can't even get back to

546
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Speaker 1: the game. It felt like forever Manning was just gonna

547
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: end up with one Super Bowl. Drew Brees never got

548
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: back to the Super Bowl. Philip Rivers never got the

549
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: one championship game. So it's just Roethlisbergers never getting back.

550
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: We got a chance with a very special player, a

551
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: transcendent talent, easily the most likable guy in the league.

552
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: Just the young star who checks all the boxes off

553
00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: the field, who smiles, who's vibrant. But most importantly, and

554
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: whenever I hear athletes talk about I want to be

555
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: a brand, I want to be a brand. Bro be

556
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: a great player. Tiger and Michael were great players. The

557
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: money followed, Tom became a champion. Money followed Patrick Mahomes

558
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: is backing it up with talent and accolades of kicking

559
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Speaker 1: everyone's ass. So I I like the Chiefs early take.

560
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll dive into the game definitely more next week.

561
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Speaker 1: But the league got lucky with this matchup to get

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Speaker 1: my Homes in this game. Uh, they just dismantled the Bills,

563
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: and the Bills are good, like the Bills are a

564
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Speaker 1: good team. They kicked the Bills ass and they did

565
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Speaker 1: it twice. They did it early in the regular season,

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Speaker 1: and some fans have pointed out on direct messages, well

567
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Speaker 1: you know there was Corona issue. The game got pushed back. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you we won't even count that a f

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Speaker 1: C Championship game beat down. That that's called an ass whooping, because,

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Speaker 1: let's face it, if he doesn't muff the punt, the

571
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Speaker 1: game is a I mean, it was a borderline blow

572
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: it anyway, but it would have been a full blown blowout.

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00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: I mean the score might have been like forty two three.

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Speaker 1: League's lucky to have my homes. I'm a big believer

575
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: in when you know, when your gut tells you something,

576
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: you know now you may stick it out. But when

577
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: you get in your head like yeah, well our relationships over,

578
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: or like I can't stay at this job anymore, that

579
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: doesn't mean the next day you're gonna break up. That

580
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: doesn't mean the next day you're gonna quit what. Life

581
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: is not that easy. Sometimes you gotta pay the bills.

582
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can't get a divorce or whatever immediately for

583
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: whatever your kids situation can be complicated, but your relationship

584
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: is over long term and whenever you figure out the

585
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: proper time to leave that job, to break that business partnership,

586
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: to finalize the divorce, or have a rough break up

587
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: with a long term relationship, but you usually know. And

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Speaker 1: I think anyone listening can't agree. Who's gone through any

589
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: sort of breakup. I've gone through breakups. I've been fired

590
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: well before I've ever been fired or broken up with

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Speaker 1: a girl. You knew what was happening, you knew something

592
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: was weird in the relationship. I'll never forget going to

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Speaker 1: the combine in two thousand and chip Kelly was just

594
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: there and no one would really talk to me in

595
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: like the uh in the suite all chips guy. It

596
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: was very weird. I'm like, something's off, I'm in trouble,

597
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: this is over, like this is this is a rap

598
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: And it was the best of thing never happened to me.

599
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: But I didn't lose my job for another three months.

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Speaker 1: I kept working, kept going to pro days, and you

601
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: just keep swinging your pick. And that's just the reality

602
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: of the way life works. It's not like you can't

603
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: just snap your fingers and me like I'm gone. You

604
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: got responsibilities, you have contracts. It's big. It's just reality.

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00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: The Matt Stafford Detroit Lion situation. Let's face it, it's

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00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: it's felt like the last couple of years. I'd even

607
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: argue the moment, but as she got there, like, I

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00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: don't know if Matt Stafford is long for the Lions.

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Speaker 1: And I've talked about on this podcast, I've talked about

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Speaker 1: the other podcast. It just felt this season like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Stafford's gone, and you go, how's it gonna work.

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00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know exactly. Maybe I'll have to

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Speaker 1: take a pay cut, maybe he'll demand a trade. I

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00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: don't know exactly how it will go about it. Pretty

615
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: high character guy. Everyone in the league seems to like him.

616
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: Texted a guy that had played with Matt Stafford. He

617
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Speaker 1: said he loved him. He said he thinks he's one

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Speaker 1: of the more underrated players in the league. And then

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Speaker 1: the information comes out this weekend that Stafford had gone

620
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Speaker 1: the Lions right after the season and said, listen, can

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Speaker 1: we go our separate ways? And did it in a

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Speaker 1: very professional manner, didn't do the passive aggressive Aaron Rodgers. Now,

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Speaker 1: granted Stafford has made I think I'd have to look

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Speaker 1: up the exact number. I think it's over two d

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Speaker 1: million dollars. So he has been paid for his troubles, right,

626
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Speaker 1: what they're saying, madman, that's what the money's for. So

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00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: he's been paid a lot of money. But given his

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Speaker 1: talent and given the but I know in the NFL

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Speaker 1: his career has underachieved. Like his game tape is great.

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Speaker 1: But when you just asked the casual fan and they

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Speaker 1: go to his you know, football reference page, you go,

632
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: is this guy really elite? He's made one Pro Bowl?

633
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: And listen, we know Derek Carr has made three Pro Bowls.

634
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: There's not a team in the league that would take

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00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: Car over Stafford. But my point is that, like just

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Speaker 1: part of the deal with playing with the Lions kind

637
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: of sucks. There are two best players in the history

638
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: of the franchise have retired around thirty years old. It

639
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: tells you everything you need to know. But I'm just

640
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: glad that I don't necessarily care how it would have happened.

641
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: It doesn't doesn't matter to me that this is happening, though,

642
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: that we're gonna get this player out of Detroit and

643
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: not you know, part of the shitty part about Philip

644
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: Rivers is I wish Philip Rivers would have left the

645
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: Chargers at like thirty three and got four or five

646
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: years some peak years on a good team, like got

647
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: to play with this Colts team the last five years

648
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: instead of just this one year or when he was

649
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, kind of over the hill. Now, that would

650
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: have been fun to see, you know, with a real coach,

651
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: with a real organization. And listen, I think Tom dalsco

652
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: is good. I just have a hard time respect in

653
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: span Us and the way they operate. I just do

654
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: and Stafford and trust me that the Charges are way

655
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: better historically, especially the last couple of decades than the Lions.

656
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: So Stafford has been to a place where careers go

657
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: to die. And then he got two guys in Bob

658
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: Quinn and Matt Patricia, who were so over their heads

659
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: with running a franchise it was it was embarrassing. By that,

660
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean it was a joke. They were both blown

661
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: out well before the season ended, and deservedly so. To

662
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: be like taking a five year old and asking him

663
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: to like type of paper, I mean it was grat

664
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: for a guy that's quote unquote rocket scientists, another guy

665
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: that has spent all this time with Belichick, every move

666
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: was just clown show clown show clown show. Stafford stuck

667
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: it out, kept his mouth shut, just kept swinging. I

668
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: respect that, I do now. Granted it's part of the

669
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: deal when you signed this huge money. But we're at

670
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: the point now where he's on the open market and

671
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: I think the bidding is gonna start. What makes it

672
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: complicated and I think fans are gonna be a little

673
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: weirded out when they see his compensation is his compensation

674
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: is not gonna equal just his Wikipedia page accomplishments and accolades.

675
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: He's not like a seven time pro bowler. He's not

676
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: a four time All Pro. He's not leading the league

677
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: in touchdown passes. But the league thinks he's an elite

678
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: talent or has the opportunity to be a top five

679
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: or six starter in the NFL. And I think the

680
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: baseline for a trade starts with a first rounder. So

681
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: your two thousand, twenty one first rounder that gets you

682
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: a phone call and texting a round With some of

683
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: my buddies, they think of first and a third, maybe

684
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: a first and a second, and I think the usual suspects,

685
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: the Colts, the culture desperate right now, Philip Rivers retires,

686
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: Jacoby uh said Jacoby Myers. Jacobycent is a free agent.

687
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: They do not have a quarterback. I guess they have

688
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: Jacob Eson, but he sticks so that they need to

689
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: do something. Now. Are they gonna be willing to trade

690
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: two first rounders? I don't know. The Patriots, like with

691
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, want to go be around Matt Patricia doubt it.

692
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: The Steelers, well, the Steelers and we'll get into Sam

693
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: darn a little bit later. Aren't gonna If Ben doesn't retire,

694
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: they're out on this one. The forty Niners are kind

695
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: of in a predicament. Do they ideally want to trade

696
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: pick twelve for Matt Stafford? I do it, but I'll

697
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: be I'll be the first to acknowledge it's very risky.

698
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: He has a guy. He's a guy that's kind of

699
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: been beat up the last couple of years, had a

700
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: back issue last year, couldn't finish the last couple of

701
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: games because he was so dinged up. Even though he's

702
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: such a tough s ob, he tried to play and

703
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: that's why teams are gonna gravitate toward him his toughness.

704
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: I also think maybe he his body is a little

705
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: older than thirty two, because when you play on bad teams,

706
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: what are you doing a lot? You're throwing late in games?

707
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: What does that mean the other team gets a TF

708
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: He's been hit a lot in his career, and I

709
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: just think he's got a lot of wear and tear.

710
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: Not every Listen, my dad was a farmer. When when

711
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: they sell a truck that's been on the ranch, it's

712
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: a lot different getting the ranch truck at eighty thousand

713
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: miles and just a car that's been on the highway

714
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: at eighty thousand miles. So when you play crappy team

715
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 1: for over a decade, he's been got the crap beating

716
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: out of him. So there is that concern. But I

717
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: think his value in his potential, especially in the league

718
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: where you can protect a quarterback, if you have a

719
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: good offensive line, good coach, you know, you think that

720
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: you could make a Super Bowl run or compete to

721
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: win your conference next year with Matt Stafford. If I

722
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: put Matt Stafford on the Colts, if I put Matt

723
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: Stafford on the forty Niners, I think that team is

724
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: immediately a playoff team next year. Now, obviously the Colts

725
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: were the Niners weren't, but they Jimmy missed ten games.

726
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: I think those are the two teams that are gonna

727
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: be very, very interested. I think it's just gonna the

728
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: The compensation is gonna be a complicated issue. He doesn't

729
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: make that much money, He's relatively cheap. I I just

730
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: think how much you're gonna be willing to spend. And

731
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: I think that's for the next probably three weeks. These

732
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: teams are gonna go back and forth. They're gonna evaluate

733
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: every single draft pick, you know, potential first rounder in

734
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: this quarterback class, how good are they? What would it

735
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: cost to go get one of these guys? Then every

736
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: single Mariota, the Jamis those type guys, Well, how what

737
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: if we get Jamis for ten million dollars or Mariota

738
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: for ten million dollars? Would we be better off also

739
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: having our first round pick than trading two first rounders

740
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: for Stafford? Should we trade for Jimmy Garoppolo? Right? I mean,

741
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: this is what the conversations are gonna happen right now.

742
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: But one thing we know which is cool is that

743
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford is not gonna be a line anymore. Speaking

744
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, one guy that I think is gonna be

745
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: a pretty polarizing player over the next couple of months.

746
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: In all these conversations, I guess less than a couple

747
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 1: of months because free agency starts typically in the middle

748
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: of March, and we're almost at the end of January,

749
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: so like the next month it's gonna be Sam darn And.

750
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: One philosophy I have is I never care what people say.

751
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: It's why everyone gets so worked up on politics. When

752
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: people tweet. I don't give a ship. There is nothing

753
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: faker than a tweet like I care about poor people. No,

754
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: you don't. You live in a mansion. You you live

755
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: in a community that votes down low income housing. You

756
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: don't care at all. But a politician, that same guy

757
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: will be tweeting every day like I care about the poor,

758
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: like liar. You know. It's just it's not true. It's

759
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: so easy to say one thing. Remember Pete Carroll and

760
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: John Harball, like Kaepernick's a starting quarterback, neither of you

761
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: signed him. You're just lying, You're just placating, like the

762
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: media just don't even say anything. It's it's pointless. Some

763
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: people can't help themselves. I just don't judge people off

764
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: what they say. It's just irrelevant. Words are just that

765
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: they mean nothing to me, especially when it comes to

766
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: football or politics. I just nothing is faker. Nothing is

767
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: easier just to say something and then not follow through

768
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: on it or not actually believe in it. But I

769
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: do judge people when, especially people in in power positions,

770
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: when they don't say something. And I've watched two or

771
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: three interviews with Robert Sala and it's interesting seeing him

772
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: now as the head guy, and he's constantly being asked

773
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: about Sam Darnald and whether Sam Donald is the quarterback.

774
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: And if he had said, yes, Sam Donald is gonna

775
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: be our starter, I would say the same thing. I'd

776
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, it doesn't mean anything. He's just saying

777
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: the right thing. Remember Cliff Kingsbury said forever Josh Rosen

778
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: was our quarterback, boom, they take Kyler Murray right, So

779
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: if he would say Sam Donald was our starter, I'd

780
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: be like, it doesn't even mean anything. He won't even

781
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: touch it though. And here's what I know about Robert Sala,

782
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: high character guy. I don't And I always saw this

783
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant his last year with the Warriors. It

784
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: got very awkward for him because I think Kevin Durant

785
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: at his core, is a good human being, and I

786
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: think it was hard for him to lie every day like, yeah, guys,

787
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: I ain't coming back, I'm gone on and he knew

788
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: that the entire season, but he's constantly being asked. He's

789
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: tired a lie. He just gets worn out, so he

790
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: just kind of he went into a shell. Robert Sala

791
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: such a good guy, I don't think because to me,

792
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: the move would be it's the easiest way to like

793
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: play the media is to lie and just beak. Sam

794
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: Donald's our quarterback even if it's not true and you're

795
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: gonna trade him. But Sala can't do that. He's just

796
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: that's not his nature. It's not who he is. And

797
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: I listen, I appreciate anyone who's authentic to themselves, right,

798
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: and he's being true to himself and he will not

799
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: touch it because you know what they know. One thing

800
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: we learned this weekend is that Dan Campbell and everyone

801
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: that interviewed for the Lion's job was told Matt Stafford

802
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,479
Speaker 1: has already talked to the ownership and he he wants out,

803
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: so everyone knew and and I would imagine I've never

804
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: been to a head coaching interview, but in these or

805
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: GM interviews, but these massive interviews, a lot of things

806
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 1: come up because some of the time, and I'd say

807
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: most of the time, any candidate worth their salt, it's

808
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: not just them interviewing you, it's you interviewing them. So

809
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: the first question I would have if I was interviewing

810
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: with the Jets, like, what is the plan with Sam Donald?

811
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: Are we going to take a quarterback number two? What

812
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: is your thinking Joe Douglas, that came up. I'm sure

813
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: when they interviewed, and I think there's a decent chance

814
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: that they have already come to grips with we are

815
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: going to start over. We're gonna hit the reset button.

816
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna trade Sam Donald, and we're gonna draft a

817
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: guy at number two and just get a fresh start

818
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: as a franchise. I've said this before and and I

819
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: I just believe in this because it's so true. The

820
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: profit is not whatever you sell something for, it's what

821
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: you bought it for. So if you sell a million

822
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: dollar house and you made eight hundred thousand dollars, you

823
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: didn't make the eight hundred thousand dollars the moment you

824
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: sold it for a million dollars. You made it. When

825
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: you sold that or bought the house for two hundred dollars,

826
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: it was an incredible buy in this hypothetical. Right, So

827
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: whatever you buy and you end up making a lot

828
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: of money on it, the purchase point is really where

829
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: you killed it. And we'll see over these next kind

830
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: of year. I think the Corona recession is gonna get weird.

831
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we've got so many people not working, so

832
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: many people that went out of business, even though all

833
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: of a sudden snap of the fingers we get a

834
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: new president. Now all these major cities across America are

835
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: like open up. Now. Funny how that works, But that's just,

836
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, the reality. That doesn't mean that there's not

837
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of economic chaos. And every time

838
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: there's economic chaos, a lot of people freak. And then

839
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people, not a lot of people, but

840
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: the people that have money and have been smart with

841
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,959
Speaker 1: their you know, their resources, have the ability to buy

842
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 1: things for really cheap. Right. It happened in two thousand

843
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: eight and two thousand nine, a bunch of people bought

844
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: cheap real estate and made a ton of money. A

845
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: bunch of people bought stocks for really cheap and made

846
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: a ton of money over the last decade. It'll happen

847
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: in some sort. I don't exactly know how, because this

848
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: is a weird situation, but there there are going to

849
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: be a lot of money made over the next year

850
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: in a decade because of things that are purchased in

851
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: two in this economic uncertain time we live in, just

852
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: like this season, I don't know. I'm on the fence.

853
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: Is Sam Donald a good player or not? I don't know.

854
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: Do I watch him and go this guy has some talent?

855
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: Of course? Did I think he was worth being the

856
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: number three three overall pick? I did? Is he a

857
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: polarizing player right now? He is? Because I think a

858
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: guy like him, he's been playing in this dysfunctional place

859
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: with his weirdo coach and not much talent he could

860
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: It would shock me if he was a pro bowler.

861
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: It wouldn't shock me if he's just really, really average.

862
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: He's a risky proposition. But the one thing he's gonna

863
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: be unlike Matt Stafford, who's gonna cost a lot if

864
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: the packard for whatever reason we're gonna trade Aaron Rodgers.

865
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: He cost a boatload. Deshaun Watson. We're already hearing three

866
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: first rounders just to get a phone all. What if

867
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: you get Sam Donald for a second round pick? Would

868
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: you rather get Sam Donald who's in his early twenties,

869
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: were Matt Stafford, who's thirty two, and pay a quarter

870
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: of the price and get a guy that's cost control

871
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: the next couple of years and young, and you can mold. Now,

872
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he's the best option. There's a

873
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: very good chance over the next five years that Matt

874
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: Stafford is dramatically better than Sam Donald. Because right now

875
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: today Matt Stafford Sam Donald can't hold his jock. But

876
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: what if Sean Payton got Sam Donald? What if Kyle

877
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: Shanahan got Sam Donald. You don't think they can make

878
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: that work. What if Sean Payton got Sam Donald for

879
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: the next five years, I would venture to guess he'd

880
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: be pretty good player and it wouldn't cost him that much.

881
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: What if he get him for like two third round picks?

882
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: Because we know how much is gonna cost to get

883
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, So would you be better? And this is

884
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: what I think teams are gonna have to convince themselves

885
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: Sam Donald is not gonna be a Jet next year.

886
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: So can you figure you're out a proper compensation to

887
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: get a guy at a much lower cost given the

888
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 1: draft capital you have to pay to get him, Because

889
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: it's a double whammy. I gotta pay a first rounder

890
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: and maybe a second rounder to get Matt Stafford, and

891
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: then he makes twenty million bucks. Right, I might only

892
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: need to give like two third round picks for Sam Donald.

893
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 1: I'm just hypothetically. Maybe it's a second and a fourth.

894
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's way cheaper than whatever it

895
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: is from Matt Stafford. I get a guy who's still

896
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: on his rookie contract, I pick up his fifth year option,

897
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: and I get him under a relatively cheap contract. And

898
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: even if he has one good year, it's not like

899
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him a hundred ten million dollars after

900
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: one season. So he's relatively cheap and there is a

901
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: chance that he's a franchise quarterback. And when I say

902
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, there are different levels of franchise quarterback. Right,

903
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: there's Rogers, there's Mahomes, but then there's like I mean,

904
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, you know, I mean he's He's not the

905
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: Vikings problem. And I think Sam Donald could be a

906
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: better player than him. That's probably a bad example. I'm

907
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: trying to think of, like the second tier guy. I

908
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: think Matt Stafford has kind of been that, but his

909
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: organization has been a joke. Matt Ryan, I think it's

910
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: a good one. Philip rivers for a long period of time,

911
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: like really really good players, Like could could Sam Donald

912
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: make a couple of Pro Bowls? I think that's believable

913
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: if he gets with the right team. If I if

914
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: I say he's with the Saints next year, I could

915
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: see Sam Donald having a big year because I think

916
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: the Saints would be a be a playoff team with

917
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. Same with the Niners, and if they if

918
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: those two coaches couldn't fix them, then maybe just not

919
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: that good. But I think you have to convince yourself

920
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: that it it's risky because trading for Matt Stafford is

921
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: not trading for Aaron Rodgers. Yet you have to pay

922
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,959
Speaker 1: a premium. What did Jerry Jones one say, I don't

923
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: mind paying a premium for a premium, I'll give you

924
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: two first round picks for Aaron Rodgers, even if thirty

925
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: seven years old, because I know next year, if I'm

926
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: the Saints or the Niners, I could win the Super Bowl.

927
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Rodgers available. I'm just using this as

928
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: an example. Is Matt Stafford a premium He could be,

929
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: but he might not be, and he's banged up, Sam Donald,

930
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm just getting him at a discount, and I'm hoping

931
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: to hit it bick. I'm hoping to invest a second

932
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: round pick and get a franchise quarterback out of it,

933
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: which is possible. And he really is the only guy

934
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: in the market that I think you could look in

935
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: the mirror and say that that has that possibility to

936
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: have that type of r O I because Matt Stafford,

937
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: he could be really good at all those teams that

938
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: were the Coals, the Saints, the Niners. But he's gonna

939
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: be expensive one to pay and two to acquire. So

940
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: it's a double whammy. If I gotta give my first

941
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: if I'm the Niners and I gotta give you pick

942
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: twelve and my third round pick, like that's a lot.

943
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: You know, Pick twelve is very, very valuable. So I

944
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: just think that Sam Donald kind of curveball in this

945
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: market is something to keep an eye on, especially with

946
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: some of those top teams. Okay, let's do a little

947
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram and

948
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: uh yeah, fire in those fire in the d MS.

949
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: We are rocking and rolling. We'll start with Elijah. I

950
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: just got done watching the Packers and Bucks, and honestly,

951
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: it looked like the moment was too big for La Fleur.

952
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: Even after the Packers got back in the game, they

953
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: gave up on the run, empty backfield sets, passing nearly

954
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: every down, not to mention kicking a field goal on

955
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: fourth and goal. What are your thoughts? I don't think

956
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: there's any way around it that when it in the

957
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: biggest moment of his career, he kind of shriveled. He

958
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: melted in the moment and like people have done in

959
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: the history of the sport when the game is truly

960
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: on the line and you could everyone could feel the pressure.

961
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: He said in the field goal kicker, it's easy to

962
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: go forward and fourth down when you're eye into you know,

963
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: week twelve against the Lions, who you went for it

964
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: on four down against Patricia, how about against Tom Brady

965
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: and the Bucks on your eight yard line at Lambeau

966
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: with two minutes and seconds left. That was Matt Lafleur.

967
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: You don't ever forget that. That is Matt Lafleur. That

968
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: is who he is at his core. Like I I

969
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: don't care how many times he's gone for a fourth down.

970
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: That's who he is. That's truly who he is. He's

971
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: he was scared, and now he's got a problem with

972
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: his quarterback. So yeah, I mean too big for the moment.

973
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: I think he shriveled. There's just there's no way around it.

974
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: They get all these guys go for it all season long,

975
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: and then when these big games happen in the playoffs,

976
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: if that's when you're kicking a field goal, that that's

977
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: who you truly are. Whire teams not lining up to

978
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: hire Doug Peterson, where would you have him on your

979
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: top coaching power rankings? Top five, top ten, love the pot.

980
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: It's a good question. I mean, he wasn't very good

981
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: this year, and I think the reason they're not lined

982
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: up for him even as an offensive coordinator is he

983
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: had a big falling out with his quarterback. Now I've

984
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: defended Douck like I blame Carson on that one. But

985
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: the simple reality is is he had a bad break

986
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: up with a quarterback, and I think that leaves some

987
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: people kind of uncertain. Now he's worked for Andy, He's

988
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: won a super Bowl. I don't see how he doesn't

989
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: become an offensive coordinator in the next year. But it

990
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: does feel the way it ended in Philly, and I

991
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: think they they're basically under five hundred since the Super Bowl.

992
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a lot of momentum going for him

993
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: right now. Uh. Fair not fair. Perception can be reality,

994
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: and his perception is bad. I don't know if I'd

995
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: hired him to be my head coach, I hired to

996
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: be my offensive coordinator. Uh. And I think reports already

997
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna take the year off, and then I would expect

998
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: him to be an offensive coordinator next year. I love

999
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: the pot. I'm in Nebraska. I'm from Nebraska, but have

1000
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: been a Chicago Bears fan my entire life. So my

1001
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: question is what are the realistic moves the Bears can

1002
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: make to address their ongoing quarterback problem. Not holding my

1003
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: breath with Shaun Watson, however, Ryan Pace and Matt n

1004
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: Aggie need to make a big gamble if either of

1005
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: them wants to be around much longer, and if they fail,

1006
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: any draft capital they spend will affect the future, and

1007
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: they're not here for I want to be optimistic, but

1008
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: the last time these two collaborated on a quarterback, Nick

1009
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: Foles was the product. I think they have one major problem.

1010
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: What are their options? The Lions are not going to

1011
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: trade Matt Stafford the Chicago Bears. I just I can't

1012
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: see that. Uh. Could they trade for Sam Donald? Would

1013
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: they trade their first round pick for Sam Donald? That'd

1014
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: be risky. I would ideally give like two seconds I

1015
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: would do that. Uh. Could they trade for Jimmy Garoppolo?

1016
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: Not crazy, but that's pretty risky. He's been injured a lot.

1017
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston is a free agent, also pretty risky. They

1018
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: could trade for Mariotta. I don't know if he's good enough.

1019
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: They're not drafting high enough to get in the top

1020
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: five to get a quarterback. I think you can honestly

1021
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: say they're in a real tough spot. I I don't

1022
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: have a good answer for you. I think the most

1023
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 1: realistic answer would probably be trading for Sam Donald. And

1024
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, it would be the lowest, you know,

1025
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,959
Speaker 1: in terms of compensation to get for all the guys

1026
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: that are gonna be on the move potentially, but it's

1027
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: also the risk is he just might not be good.

1028
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: So it wouldn't shock me if Sam Donald is a bear.

1029
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is stupid good. But I dropped a hundred

1030
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: dollars on Green Bay plus ten and a half halfway

1031
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: through the game and made some money. Great podcast, And

1032
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: by good I mean Tom Brady is incredibly accomplished. I

1033
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 1: think Rogers is a better quarterback, but hard to argue

1034
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 1: the results at this point. Appreciate the message. I guess

1035
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: there's no question. It's like my guy here, we have

1036
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: a name just and he's in the Army, So I

1037
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: appreciate your service. Way to make some money. I lost

1038
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: five bucks yesterday thanks Aaron Rodgers and Laflour. Appreciate it.

1039
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: With Patrick Mahomes had to go to a second Super

1040
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: Bowl and Rogers losing another NFC championship game. Is Mahomes

1041
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: now leap frogging Aaron on the all time quarterback list?

1042
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think it's impossible to do

1043
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: all time quarterback list with Mahomes right now. He's been

1044
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: the league four years. I think his trajectory he wins

1045
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: this super Bowl. He started three seasons one an m

1046
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: v P, and he's won two super bowl. Especially if

1047
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: he wins the Super Bowl MVP, he would be on

1048
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: a just a crazy start. I mean, you talk about

1049
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: being on a heater, he would be on a rocket

1050
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: ship towards the top five. He's just got such a

1051
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: long way to go. He's twenty four. Uh. Rodgers has

1052
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: just done a lot more in his career. But if

1053
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: Mahomes won a super Bowl, he got more super Bowls

1054
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: than Aaron Um and I think that it'll start trending

1055
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: he'll be ahead of him. But it's just to me,

1056
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 1: it's unfair to do guys that, you know, I've been

1057
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: in a league four years. To put him on an

1058
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: all time lift, you gotta waits. As shitty as that sounds,

1059
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are most likely going to

1060
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: get big extensions this offseason. Sometimes these moves work, but

1061
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: sometimes they don't. Like Goff and Wentz, what is the

1062
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: value of paying your young quarterback early? Well, the value

1063
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: is if I pay a guy thirty million dollars a year,

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00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that in three or four years that number

1065
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: is gonna be forty now I would get to the

1066
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: point where I might stop thinking that because I know,

1067
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: like for the housing market, for example, in the Bay Area,

1068
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: it was out of control like four or five years ago,

1069
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: and it still is kind of crazy. But like, let's

1070
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: say a house is probably really should be worth like

1071
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: eight grand, you gotta spend one point five million in

1072
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: and he started thinking like in twenty years, is this

1073
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: house gonna be worth three million dollars? And the answer

1074
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: is no, probably not. So like there does get to

1075
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: a point where you go, is it worth it to

1076
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: do this? Now? He's gonna be expensive either way, I'd

1077
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: wait unless you're mahomes what the fund is the rush?

1078
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: I'd wait on Lamar Jackson for sure. I'd also probably

1079
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: wait on Josh Allen just making play it out. I

1080
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: just don't understand why everyone's in a rush. Now, technically

1081
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: it's a contract extension, so it's not like the guy's

1082
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: a free agent. The money kicks in it, it kicks

1083
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: in a couple of years on the books, technically gonna

1084
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: pay him. Then, Uh, I think it's all for that.

1085
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: You keep thinking the money's gonna go up and at

1086
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: this page. So it was like one day a quarterback

1087
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: gonna be making ninety million dollars maybe. I mean, the

1088
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: Rock makes like a hundred million dollars a year doing

1089
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: a couple of movies. So why why couldn't a quarterback

1090
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: make you know, what's to Mahome is actually worth? Will

1091
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: the Chief pay him a hundred million dollars a year?

1092
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: I think they would. After last night's awful loss of

1093
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: the Bucks, Roger said his future was uncertain. Schefter reiterated

1094
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: that point this morning as well. Do you think there's

1095
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: any validity to that? And how would it look if

1096
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: he retired or demanded a trade? Well, I think it's

1097
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: pretty simple. As I mentioned before, I think he did

1098
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: that to rattle Gudikins and Lafleur's cages, and he deserved

1099
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: to do that. I think he's gonna retire, zero chance.

1100
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: I think there's a negative percent chance that he retires.

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00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: I think there is one chance Aaron Rodgers is playing

1102
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: NFL football next year. Now what team? It still feels

1103
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be on the Packers. Could he demand

1104
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: a trade, it would be like, I I don't know,

1105
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I I guess he could. Uh what would

1106
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: his excuse be? I'm over to this organization. They have

1107
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: been winning, and he just won the m v P.

1108
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: Like I said, could it just be he'd have to

1109
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: come out and say, well, they drafted Jordan Love, so

1110
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: screw these guys. They're over me anyway, And that would

1111
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: be how he'd have to play it. If he demanded

1112
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: a trade, which we talked about earlier, which I don't

1113
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: think he's over. I mean they drafted his replacement, and

1114
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: you just say you start Jordan's Love, I want out.

1115
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: That would be the play. You guys play Jordan's Love.

1116
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: I want to go. Now. This is not the NBA.

1117
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: Players don't dictate the terms, so would they do that?

1118
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: I doubt It's like I don't expect the Packers necessarily

1119
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: to trade them. Do I think Aaron wants to leave? Maybe?

1120
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: But do I expect them to uh to listen? Probably

1121
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: not diehard Packer fan. Got a lot of Packer fans

1122
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: here trying to stomach what I witnessed yesterday. I've listened

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00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: every interview Roger has done the last two years. I

1124
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: don't believe he meant his comments the way the media

1125
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: took it the last twenty four hours. However, I do

1126
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: believe our window is closing if it didn't already on Sunday.

1127
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: When you look at the contracts and free agents the

1128
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: Packers have on the books this year, how do you

1129
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: see this shaking out this offseason. Well, Aaron Jones is gone, right,

1130
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: He's they drafted his replacement in A J. Dillon back

1131
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: tr who's one of their best players at towards a

1132
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: c L. So that that's a pretty big loss. Uh,

1133
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: pretty sure. The Darius is still under contract, Savage, Kenny

1134
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: Clark's paid, right, Uh, Devant is under contract. I think

1135
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: the core of their team is under contract. Uh. There

1136
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 1: there is turnover every year in the NFL. That's part

1137
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:23,479
Speaker 1: of the deal. I just wonder, like it's just hard,

1138
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: Like are they gonna go to three straight NFC Championship games.

1139
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: They had a pretty good opportunities last couple of years

1140
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: and didn't get it done. I mean two years ago,

1141
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: they didn't even get close. Last year, I guess last

1142
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: year yesterday. Uh, they just that was just devastating loss.

1143
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: Like you said, I don't know, I mean, I just

1144
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: to me, their plan would just be to bring back Rogers,

1145
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: do as much as they can around them, and try

1146
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: to make another run. They still have the best quarterback

1147
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: arguably in the league, and they can win thirteen games,

1148
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: like I think, they'll view themselves a team that's gonna

1149
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: be back in the playoffs as they should. They have

1150
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers on their team. Now, just Aaron could make

1151
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: it weird. That's just that's just a reality. And he

1152
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: knows that he holds that kind of trump card. He

1153
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: can make it weird, Willie, because it's one thing to

1154
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: just say it after the game. Whatever is he gonna

1155
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: Is he gonna follow through with some of his comments?

1156
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: Is he gonna leak some trade stuff? I don't, we'll

1157
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: find out. I don't know you follow him much. I

1158
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: just follow him from you know, three two thousand miles

1159
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: away closely because one of the best players in the league.

1160
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: But I don't watch every one of his press conference.

1161
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: I listened to him on McAfee a lot, but he's

1162
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: always in such a good mood because they've been winning.

1163
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: I don't we'll see. I mean, I guess he's usually

1164
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. I don't know if he's gonna be on tomorrow.

1165
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: But if I had to guess right now, if if

1166
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: you said, John, you have to put a thousand dollars

1167
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: Rogers retires, he's on the Packers or he's on another team.

1168
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: I would put his on the Packers next year, So hel,

1169
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: what's even up the end? Let's say it was ten

1170
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, I would I would put it on the Packers. Now,

1171
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: I do think they're gonna be some weird stories come out.

1172
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: He set this up right. The media didn't make this up.

1173
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: He did it. So we'll just want to see how

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Speaker 1: this plays out. Enjoy the week, see a little bit later. Godspeed, peace,