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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. In

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well.

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Speaker 2: Ray Drops, the time has come.

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Speaker 1: You guys have been waiting for this collaboration for almost

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Speaker 1: two years.

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Speaker 2: Let's you write it to it.

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Speaker 1: Ray Drops the icon motherfucking Monica Garcia and this bitch.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Ray Drop John Up Hoddy. Yes, I'm

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Speaker 3: so excited. I'm so excited to be here. I can't

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Speaker 3: even believe.

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Speaker 2: This is happening right now, matching Loki, I know.

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Speaker 3: I know what I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't no, Monica, first of all, I have I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm like shaking because I know me too.

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Speaker 4: The way I've manifested this moment. You can't even you literally,

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 2: No, girlfriend, I manifested this. Listen the rainbows.

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Speaker 1: I am a Monica Garcia stand yeah, and you and

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Speaker 1: I follow each other social media and listen, you are

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Speaker 1: the gift that keeps so giving.

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Speaker 2: You are such an icon to me. I don't know

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Speaker 2: too many women.

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Speaker 1: Besides Danielle Style for Sursey Who. But no, you're honestly

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Speaker 1: like somebody that came into an existing show and turned

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Speaker 1: it around. I miss you dearly, but I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: talk to you so well. The first thing I know,

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Speaker 1: the rank I want to know, especially.

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Speaker 2: Me, right, how are you doing? How's life for you?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: Let me just tell you something.

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Speaker 4: The fact that I don't have cameras on my life

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Speaker 4: is a crime. Like my life is insane. It's been nuts.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, everybody knows. I keep it one

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Speaker 4: hundred and I'm in the postpartum trenches right now and

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Speaker 4: it's a beautiful mess. Right, every day is a beautiful mess.

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Speaker 4: I struggle. I'm in therapy, bitch. I'm just trying to

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Speaker 4: survive on the d just trying to survive.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is, though, like you you really gave

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Speaker 1: birth to a beautiful baby girl, So like, how was

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Speaker 1: that all going along?

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Speaker 2: How old is she now? She's true?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's so cute.

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Speaker 4: She just turned six months she's amazing. She's been the

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Speaker 4: biggest joy in all of our lives. Her sister's lover

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Speaker 4: so much. She's been so great. But yeah, starting over

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Speaker 4: with the baby phase is no joke.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and how is the baby daddy? Is everything good?

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Speaker 3: It's so good. He's an incredible dad.

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Speaker 4: It's been so you know how they say, there's always

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Speaker 4: like those reels that are like, if you think you

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Speaker 4: love him, now wait until you see him with your baby.

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Speaker 3: And it's so true.

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Speaker 4: He's just elevated into a different level for me just

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Speaker 4: watching him with his daughter.

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Speaker 3: It's been amazing.

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Speaker 1: Oh good, listen. I am extremely happy for you. Life

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Speaker 1: has thrown a couple of curveballs. But I think the

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Speaker 1: biggest big of the fact that you are resilient.

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Speaker 2: Me and the rain drops and the fans.

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Speaker 1: We miss you. We want you back on television screen.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get into a couple of those things later.

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Speaker 1: Our first things first, Yes, Monica Garcia is here because

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Speaker 1: she said yes to me, and trust me, I'm not

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Speaker 1: the only one who wanted her to do this, So

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Speaker 1: I don't take this for granted that Monica Garcia has

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Speaker 1: agreed to recap the latest episode of the Real House

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Speaker 1: loss of Selec City with me, and we're about to

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Speaker 1: get into the latest episode.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for.

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Speaker 1: This, Monica?

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me tell you the way I have been asked.

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Speaker 4: I'm about to wreffle some feathers because I have been

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Speaker 4: asked by so many people to recap this damn show,

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Speaker 4: and I have said no to every single person.

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Speaker 3: You are the only one that I.

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Speaker 4: Was like, I'm gonna do this because I respect you

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Speaker 4: so much. You are always there for me in my

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Speaker 4: corner and I love you for that. I have not

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Speaker 4: watched this show since my season until I had to

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Speaker 3: So yeah, this has been a truth for me for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was like screaming the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Dad, Lissa Honor, I don't think this for granted. And look,

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Speaker 1: we are going to have fun doing this. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to talk about it with you. You saw the latest episode.

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Speaker 1: Let's get right into it.

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Speaker 2: So listen.

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Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow had a lunch where she wanted all the

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Speaker 1: girls to come so that she's able to talk about

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Speaker 1: these lawsuits that.

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Speaker 2: Are happening in her life. Brahma talked about.

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Speaker 1: It is featured in the Salt Lake Tribune, which is

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Speaker 1: a prestigious.

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Speaker 2: Publication in Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 1: Before we begin to that, I want to ask you this,

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Speaker 1: in salt Lake City, how big of a story are

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Speaker 1: Lisa's lawsuits for it to be featured in the Tribune.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you this.

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Speaker 4: Lisa's lawsuits are something that everybody talks about. Whether she

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Speaker 4: wants to admit that or not, that's a completely separate subject,

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Speaker 4: right her lawsuits.

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows about them.

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Speaker 4: She was taken to court by her manufacturing company up

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Speaker 4: in like Oggen a little bit, and she settled with them,

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Speaker 4: so she could say that was dismissed.

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Speaker 3: But she's making monthly payments to them.

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Speaker 4: Right, Like, these lawsuits are things that have been going

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Speaker 4: on for years. I mean I went to a birthday

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Speaker 4: a separate lawsuit that involved Lisa.

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Speaker 3: So I mean these are things.

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Speaker 4: That look look, every housewife has had a lawsuit or

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Speaker 4: two or three or ten. You know, it's kind of

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Speaker 4: just like par for the course. But they are factual, So.

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Speaker 3: Dismissed, settled, making payments.

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Speaker 4: You can label it however you want, but are they

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Speaker 4: are out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it's not that broad when.

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Speaker 1: Decided to just do all this research, it's it's a

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Speaker 1: talk of the town. People are talking about it, whether

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Speaker 1: you have birthday dinners, brunches, skiing, people are talking about So.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you saw the scene in.

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Speaker 1: This episode where Lisa had this lunch and she printed

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Speaker 1: funny with the dismissed on things that actually weren't dismissed.

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Speaker 2: Do you think do you think.

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Speaker 1: Lisa cares a great deal about what people think about

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Speaker 1: her that she didn't realize that writing dismissed on a

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Speaker 1: lawsuit that is ongoing was not the flex that she

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so, can I just tell you my.

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Speaker 4: First thoughts were it was it was like she was

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Speaker 4: trying to be Kenya, which you could never because Kenya

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Speaker 4: had her receipts printed out on big old boards too,

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Speaker 4: And it felt like she was trying to kind of

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Speaker 3: Is like, no, baby girl.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it definitely flopped. You could tell nobody was

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Speaker 4: buying it. Nobody was. Everyone was like, this doesn't prove anything.

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Speaker 4: You know, the lawsuits they were still there. Then they

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Speaker 4: still existed. They still happened, whether they were like I said,

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Speaker 4: dismiss settled making payments, honey, there's still it was still

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Speaker 4: a thing. They were still real, they existed. The only

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Speaker 4: thing that she proved really was.

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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, so there are lawsuits. There were lawsuits.

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Speaker 4: So that was a fact, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't think it and how she was hoping for

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Speaker 4: it to land, which you know, unfortunately, that's you know,

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Speaker 4: the burn book situation.

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Speaker 1: You better put fun at your own dad self. Not

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Speaker 1: that you say, Lisa, first of all, you flop. Try

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Speaker 1: to have a KNA moment. Yeah, also flop because look

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Speaker 1: my burn book I thought was gonna be a moment

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Speaker 1: at Monica I love you, Da Boots say Monica, I

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Speaker 1: love you. But that Burke was a flop. What to

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Speaker 1: DND She said, Girl, it was a flop. But let's

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Speaker 1: be cleary, honest, think everything exactly.

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Speaker 3: And I can own that. I can yep. That's did

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Speaker 3: a flap because a lot of shit got edited out.

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Speaker 4: And maybe in Lisa's defense, right, we're gonna play Devil's advocate,

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Speaker 4: maybe shit was edited out that it didn't land because

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Speaker 4: there were certain pieces taking out, which is what happened

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Speaker 4: with the burn book, So who knows who knows?

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Speaker 2: Points are made and points are valid?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You, First of all, I want to ask you your opinion. Yes,

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Speaker 2: what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 1: Monica Garcia, Oh, Bronwyn.

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Speaker 4: It's hard because I've never met her and she is

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Speaker 4: trying to make her way on this cast, which I

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Speaker 4: completely understand how difficult that is. I commend her for

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Speaker 4: bringing more to the table than Heather has and five seasons,

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Speaker 4: and I'm proud of her for showing parts of her

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Speaker 3: And I know you know that's true. I know you

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Speaker 4: She's doing a great job because she is out here

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Speaker 4: at least show a shit that some people.

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Speaker 3: Haven't shown in six seasons. So I'm proud of her

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Speaker 3: for that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I mean listen, the moment you say something

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Speaker 2: And so far it hasn't happened yet.

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Speaker 1: Look, speaking of Heather, during the lunch scene, she tried

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Speaker 1: to come across as this peacemaker one of the girls

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Speaker 1: that Look, you guys are being mean to each other.

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Speaker 1: You're not hearing each other out. You know, you're disrespecting

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Speaker 1: you know each other when it comes to you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Lisa's son's businesses and out it belongs to Walmart.

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Speaker 1: You guys are disrespecting each other when Angie Ate saying

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Speaker 1: you know you do you do French fries, I do franchise.

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Speaker 1: First of all, when that line was said, do you

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Speaker 1: think Angie rehearsed it or did that come off the dome?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think Angie rehearses a lot of things, like you

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Speaker 4: perk your range rover under a car port.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of things that are discussed previously beforehand and are

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Speaker 4: made sure to hit bump bump, bump bump.

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Speaker 3: But also, can we for one that's that up?

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Speaker 4: Let's not diss Walmart because let's not, for a second,

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Speaker 4: act like any of those women wouldn't love to have

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Speaker 4: a corp like Walmart under their belt.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: If you can achieve a Walmart level of success and franchise, okay,

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Speaker 4: you have made it. And second of all, let's not

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Speaker 4: act like we wouldn't all love a McDonald's deal, okay,

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Speaker 4: or an in and out Burger deal or whatever. Like

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Speaker 4: I'm sure Angie, if Wendy's called her right now, would

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Speaker 4: take a French fried deal as well. So you know,

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Speaker 4: I think there's just these low blows that you know,

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Speaker 4: get thrown across the table and it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: We all love a.

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Speaker 4: Little shade for sure, but I do I do think

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Speaker 4: that like the Walmart stuff was a little like like

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Speaker 3: Like are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Why do you think Heather is getting away with not

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Speaker 4: Please explain that to me, because I am sitting here thinking.

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Speaker 3: But because I can't, I don't understand. If you look

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Speaker 4: Who are you what is going on She's gotten away

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Speaker 1: Not everybody you know has a great personal story at

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Speaker 1: She told Heather, I love you, You're always, you know,

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Speaker 3: Look? When I went into reunion, I had the same feeling,

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Speaker 3: I think the way that that lunch went, you've got.

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Speaker 4: It's just it feels so it doesn't feel real, right,

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Speaker 4: It didn't feel right. It felt very like, Okay, we

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, kind of you.

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Speaker 1: That's what you're saying, Monica, is what the audience echoing

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Speaker 2: I worked on Atlanta Wives, I work on Jersey Baby.

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Speaker 2: You know, let's not forget about portion Kenya, let's.

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Speaker 2: It took a minute. It took it took a minute.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you in the sense of, like, yes,

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Speaker 1: I think on the show that that is still tainted,

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Speaker 4: I don't think that these women.

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Speaker 4: Look, when I was around with jen Shaw that entire time,

445
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: she did not hang out with one of them once.

446
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 3: So I just don't see.

447
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 4: Like these women really being genuine, real friends outside of it.

448
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 4: I think it ebbs and flows based on the season,

449
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 4: on whose friends and who has made their little packs.

450
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 4: I do think that Lisa and Meredith do definitely put

451
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 4: in the effort to to remain where they are, if

452
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 4: that makes sense. I think that they have something outside

453
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 4: of the show. I could see them hanging out in

454
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 4: the future, you know what I mean.

455
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: I don't.

456
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 4: I don't see Heather and Bronwyn hanging out in the future.

457
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: I don't you know what I mean. I don't know

458
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 3: if that makes sense.

459
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it makes it makes total sense. I don't

460
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: think how they liked Brahmin at all. And I think

461
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: Brahmwen is so real. She's like, girl, whatever, do you

462
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: agree with you? Because even when you saw Bronwin and

463
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: Lisa have their one on one in this episode and

464
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: they had to address once again their issues, that to

465
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: me was realistic in terms of we can agree to

466
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: forgive each other, but we really have to like work

467
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: towards building our friendship. Because Bromwyn was recommended by Lisa

468
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: to be on the show, and like Bromwin said, I

469
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 1: tell you a joke about I have to perform, you know,

470
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: things to get closed as a joke, and years later

471
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: you run that back in my face to embarrass me.

472
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 4: And who hasn't done that in a relationship? I'm sorry,

473
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 4: who hasn't done that?

474
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: Okay?

475
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: It's like, please please.

476
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: Right that Whitley said, I do that, like I think

477
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: we all do it. I'm like, go ahead with me.

478
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 2: So I agree with you that it takes a minute

479
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: to rebuild it.

480
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: I was shocked that the moment this scene was over,

481
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: they're toasting to the weekend.

482
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, it.

483
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: Also is confusing because we saw Angie tail Heather that

484
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: a woman walked into her salon, oh yeah, reading representing Lisa,

485
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: saying I'm here to collect the product.

486
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: That Lisa has here, only for.

487
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: Lisa to text Angie pretty much dissing her salon, calling

488
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: it dusty girl. I want my stuff back and all

489
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: of these things, and you're using someone's credit card to

490
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: go on vacations.

491
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: I'm what happened to the kumbaya?

492
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: Well, it was fake, just like Gens, I'm like, thank

493
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 4: you for val.

494
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're not crazy. That was bullshit and it

495
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: was fake just like we assumed, you know what I mean,

496
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 3: like there was nothing off that. It's not realistic.

497
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 4: You can't throw shit like that at each other and

498
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 4: then kumbaya and expect it to really actually be kumbaya.

499
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: There's no way. There's no way.

500
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 4: So I mean, to me, that made sense. Go get

501
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 4: my shit from that bitches fucking salon for dusty, crusty,

502
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 4: musty salon, and I'm gonna venmo her this little coin.

503
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 4: And that's how I really feel good for you, because

504
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 4: that is that was probably how you really felt. You

505
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: didn't feel like I love you, Angie, and I just

506
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 4: a lot.

507
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: Like, No, you wanted to get your shit and go.

508
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: You know that was real?

509
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: Good for her, No, it was real.

510
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: But look, I want to get your thoughts on this

511
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: because I want to know if b Monica Garcia would

512
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: have played this the same way.

513
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: So after this incident happens at Angie salon Yeah, She

514
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: then meets.

515
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: With Meredith Oh yes, and tells Meredith, look, I thought

516
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: me and Lisa were good.

517
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: Apparently were not. This is what she did to me.

518
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: So I'm going to tell you everything that she said

519
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: to me when you two were not in a good place.

520
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: She Angie told Meredith that Lisa told Angie to dig

521
00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: up dirt on her. M you, you got your ass

522
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,719
Speaker 1: handed to you kicked out of the Cool Girls Club

523
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: for allegedly doing the same thing.

524
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: Right. Meredith then says I don't believe it and.

525
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: Apparently just okay, I'm gonna end it here because I'm

526
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: gonna range to follow where I'm going. Yes, two episodes ago,

527
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: rain Drops, if you all remember when Bronwyn read Lisa

528
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: and bro and Lisa said I'm gonna create a website

529
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: and list all of your shit and brown goes.

530
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Lisa, we know that's what you do.

531
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: Only for two episodes later for Angie to tell Meredith

532
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: Lisa told me to dig up stuff on you.

533
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: Do you believe it?

534
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: Let me just tell you. Let me just tell you,

535
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: carl Us, because I want to scream right now. Let

536
00:29:59,240 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: me tell you.

537
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: When I saw that happen, I didn't expect this the

538
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 4: validation I felt I could exhale. When I had everybody

539
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 4: send me that clip of Lisa saying I'm gonna.

540
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: Create a page. Da da da da da, I'm gonna.

541
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: Create it, and I'm gonna tell her, I was like, exactly,

542
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 4: And then when Angie said what she's I was like,

543
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 4: thank you, because in that motherfucking burn book that nobody

544
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: saw was the proof of Lisa and other people. Okay,

545
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 4: Heather asking us to post off, telling us where to postuff,

546
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: you should post this, blah blah blah blah blah blah,

547
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: pretty much proving like they knew about the page, they

548
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 4: knew who do text.

549
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 3: Okay, this wasn't even in DMS, this was in straight text.

550
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: Okay, I know for a fact that Lisa does that shit.

551
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: So to sit there and hear Angie say that was

552
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 4: so val. Angie is not lying. She is not lying,

553
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 4: if Meredith wants to believe it or not. I love Meredith.

554
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: I love Meredith down, I love her family, I love

555
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 4: her kids. I hope that Meredith does believe Angie. I

556
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 4: could see why she's hesitant. But these women absolutely do

557
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 4: that shit. I've been on the receiving end. I've been

558
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: Angie where they've been like, look into this and you

559
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: should post that, and you should say this so I

560
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: can bring up that, and da.

561
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: Da da da da.

562
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: So one hundred percent Angie is not lying. I will say.

563
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: I could see, and I want to know if you

564
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: caught this as a producer. When Angie started to bring

565
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: that up, you could see a moment in Angie where

566
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: she was like, am I really about to say this?

567
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 4: You could see you could see like, Okay, I have

568
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: to bring this up. Do I really want to bring

569
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 4: this up? Am I really gonna go here? You could

570
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: see the moment where she was like, and she's like,

571
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 4: once I say this, it's out there, and she did.

572
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 4: She open the gates of hell because Lisa is not.

573
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 4: Lisa's gonna come for that ass. Okay, She's gonna come

574
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 4: for that ass, and I personally wouldn't have played it

575
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 4: exactly that way.

576
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: To answer your question, I would have done it in

577
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: front of Lisa.

578
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 4: I would have done it with Lisa right there, and

579
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 4: I would have said, you want to tell your best

580
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 4: friend right here what the fuck you've been saying about

581
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 4: her and how I should do her dirty on your advice.

582
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 4: I would have done it like that. I would have

583
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 4: called her out right in the moment. Right you don't

584
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 4: get a chance to think about it. You don't get

585
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: a chance.

586
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: To, you know, cover your tracks.

587
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 4: We're gonna do it right here, right now, and let

588
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 4: the chips fall where they may.

589
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: But Angie is one hundred percent telling the truth.

590
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 4: And that's why the real gag is the fact that

591
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 4: these women act like I am so different than them,

592
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 4: Because as you can see, she's out here making threats

593
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: to be an online website. She's out here telling people

594
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: how Lisa's smart.

595
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: I'll give her that, because she she.

596
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 4: Goes like this, well, I didn't do it, you know,

597
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: But here's all the info I gave you to do

598
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 4: it yourself.

599
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: But I didn't do it, you know. So I'm proud

600
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: of andree for doing that. But I could tell she.

601
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: Was like, holy fuck, I'm really about to say this.

602
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 4: Do I want to do this good for her? Though

603
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 4: she's she's not lying, she's not lying. And that's the

604
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 4: real gag about all of this reality Vontee shit, you know?

605
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

606
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean so, the thing is this, I've always said

607
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: this to the rain Drops that when it comes to

608
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: these shows, they're not all the sup Yeah, they're they're

609
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: for some of the casts, some some some rain Drops,

610
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: not all some some some. Yeah, some of them are

611
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: friends because I'm an up and alliance, not because a

612
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: be true friendship. I will go out on a limb

613
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: and say this. I strongly believe Lisa and Meredith know

614
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: so much shit about each other, and we saw a

615
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: glimpse of that on the Hot Mic seasons ago where

616
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: Lisa was venting to a producer about Meredith. I'm not

617
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: going to repeat the thing she said because it's inappropriate,

618
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: but rain Drops, y'all do your own research if you

619
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: don't remember. Yep. I think Lisa and Meredith, in my opinion,

620
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: have agreed to not throw dirt on each other because

621
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: they know too much.

622
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: And I think.

623
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: Meredith knows it's true, but she cannot go against their path.

624
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 4: And I have always said the same exact thing about

625
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 4: Jen and Heather were about to see when she get

626
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 4: out of prison and they bring Jen's ass back.

627
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: By the way rain drops countdown, Jen Shaw is getting

628
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: out of prison in three hundred and twenty days, and

629
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: I hope.

630
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 4: She comes and I hope she cleans the motherfucking floor

631
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 4: with them, because the way I don't even believe Heather,

632
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 4: I don't think that Jen gave her that black guy.

633
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 4: But whatever, I hope that Jen comes out and I hope.

634
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: But I have always said the same exact thing I

635
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 4: think that Jen and Heather. Actually I know, I know

636
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: that Jen and Heather have a lot of shit on

637
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 4: each other. And the same way that you're reading Lisa

638
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 4: and Meredith is how.

639
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: I feel about Heather and Jen. Yeah.

640
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: Have you spoken to Jen Shaw since she's been in prison?

641
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, she.

642
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: Has me style her team nobody.

643
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: No.

644
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 2: No.

645
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 4: If we ever ever had words again when she came out,

646
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 4: it would be the first time I have not spoken

647
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: to her in years.

648
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, you.

649
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: Know, the rank doesn't want to know.

650
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: I have to ask yes one of the things in

651
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: this episode, and I was like, I'm so thrilled that

652
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: I get to talk to Monica to recap this episode,

653
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: because not only was it the girls getting into it

654
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: with the cat fights and all that, this episode, Monica

655
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: has some personal story that I was like, Ooh, I

656
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: wonder if some of these things hit home to Monica.

657
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 1: The first thing I want to get into is Mary

658
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: talking to her cousin Big Joe about, you know, she's

659
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: opening up a church and he's helping her with it,

660
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: and she sort of starts intimating about things that happen

661
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: in her personal life with her mother. Yes, she talked

662
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: about how when her grandmother passed away, she was very

663
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: careful with her words right when she said, my grandmother

664
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: had wishes that she wanted fulfilled. Right now, we all

665
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: know that, you know, supposedly because I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: Mary confirmed it, So I'll just say supposedly allegedly for

667
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: those reasons.

668
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: But word on the street is the fact that allegedly

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Speaker 2: one of the.

670
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: Grandmother's wishes was for Mary to marry her husband, which

671
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: is Mary's step grandfather, not her blood grandfather. So she

672
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: was I thought that was very interesting the way she

673
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: said that.

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00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 2: But what she did talk about was the fact that

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Speaker 2: where her grandmother did lead.

676
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: She also the mother also wanted to take over the

677
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: church and how that did not happen to the point

678
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: where she got it from the church pretty much says

679
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: she's leaving.

680
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: They said police was called astarted someone.

681
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: Now, it was a very carefully worded scene. And the

682
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: last thing was how the mother. I'm gonna say, allegedly

683
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: she's in heaven. The mother allegedly put articles about Mary

684
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: saying that she was a victim in her marriage and

685
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: was manipulated to be in this marriage.

686
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Speaker 2: What did you think about all of that? And I

687
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: was so.

688
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: I feel so emotional watching that because we're married to

689
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: how to deal with that to fell super bad for her?

690
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: Yeah no, And I'm so glad you brought this up

691
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 4: because I do want to talk about this. First of all,

692
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 4: Mary is I don't care what anybody says about Mary.

693
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 4: That woman is the only one that gave a damn

694
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 4: about my mental health when everything went down.

695
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 3: She is the only one.

696
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: That cared if I was alive for real, because of

697
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 4: everything I was going through, the way I was being treated,

698
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 4: the other stuff that was going on behind the scenes.

699
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: So shout out forever to Mary for being an actual

700
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 4: human being and caring about my well being as a person.

701
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: Aside from all the bullshit, I will say I was

702
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 4: specifically triggered while that in relation to the fact that

703
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 4: her mom was publicly speaking against her and saying horrible

704
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 4: things about her, because I experienced that with my mother,

705
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: with her rants on me on Twitter about me and

706
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 4: my children and whatever. And it is a different kind

707
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 4: of betrayal when that comes from not just even a

708
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 4: family member, but from your mother, from your mother. So

709
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 4: for me, I one hundred percent related to her in

710
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 4: that moment, and you know, it really made me reflect.

711
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 4: I have not had any relationship with my mom since

712
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: finale aired. There is zero relationship. We haven't spoken. I

713
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 4: want nothing to do with that. And part of that too,

714
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 4: is because of her behavior online after the fact, And

715
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 4: so I related to her saying, you know, there's a

716
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 4: sense of it's closed, like that chapter has closed for

717
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 4: now and that being done, and that was that was

718
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 4: very intense. I will say props to Mary. I mean,

719
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 4: she is showing her personal life like nobody else on

720
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 4: that casts right now, and she continues to do so,

721
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: and it's not easy, and I'm so proud of her

722
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 4: for doing that.

723
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: It's hard oh, I listen. Let's let's let's get one

724
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: thing clear. Mary has single handedly given not only Salt

725
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: Lake City, but the franchise as a whole, some of

726
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: the most personal stories in a real sense that I

727
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: have seen in years, from talking about her son, Robert Jr.

728
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: And dealing with his addiction issues, and my prayers go

729
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: out to Robert Jr. Still today and to marry the family.

730
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: When she opened up opened up in this episode about

731
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: her grandmother, her mom, And the reason why I said

732
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: she was very careful with her worst is because I

733
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: still think for her she does not want to disrespect

734
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: her mother, and and although her mother has since passed away, you.

735
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: Could tell that she still wants to find.

736
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: A way to tell her truth but also find a

737
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: way and in a sense to honor her, if that

738
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: makes any sense. But yeah, but khudo, Mary, I'm telling you,

739
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: Mary is the gift that keeps on giving. She is

740
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: needed for the show. Even her commentaries on the sidelines

741
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: are hilarius. But it's her personal story that I think

742
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: is what's keeping solidity.

743
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: She carrying one hundred percent.

744
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: Like for other people that are bringing no personal story,

745
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 4: She's got it all covered for them and there and

746
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 4: they should be so grateful for her for bringing that

747
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 4: element to the show because otherwise it's non existence aside

748
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: from Bronwyn, right, and what bron Win's showing with her mother.

749
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, no, and no.

750
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: Not the perfect segue into it.

751
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm a Bronwin Stan and that scene with her

752
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: mother in this episode, because last week's episode it was

753
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: a doozy when they talked about her father, her mother's

754
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: husband as well having Alzheimer's and some of the digs

755
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: that were happening even in that scene, like well this

756
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: will be you and a few years with your husband Todd,

757
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like mom was going on. So ye. In

758
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: this episode, Brohman had a daughter, Gwynn, who has a

759
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: boyfriend that sometime lives there. And what was interesting is

760
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: Brahman mentioned how Gwynn was the same age as her

761
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: when she got pregnant, and that opened up Pandora's box

762
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: for us to learn Monica that brohm AND's mother obviously

763
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: was not happy that her daughter was a teen mom,

764
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: to the point that when Brahman and her sister were

765
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: pregnant at the same time and they were getting ready

766
00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: for a baby, Shopper how Brahmin's mom refused to buy

767
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: a gift for her stand it for her sister.

768
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: The baby gap story was brew Yeah.

769
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: Again, I thought of you just based on the issues

770
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: that we've seen in the show you have with your mom.

771
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: Talk to us about that scene between.

772
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: Brahmin and her mother, because holy smoke, I was it

773
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: was it was drawing to hear barb Brahm is bringing

774
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: it to a personal story.

775
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent.

776
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 4: You know, I would love to talk to Bronwyn, to

777
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: be honest, I did not, I think because I was

778
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: also pregnant as a teen, and I think that it

779
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 4: would be really with a mother that is very difficult, right,

780
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 4: I think it would be really cathartic on some level

781
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 4: to be able to speak to someone in regards to that.

782
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 4: What really gutted me and kind of my jaw hit

783
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 4: the floor, to be honest, which is hard to do.

784
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 3: But when the mother she was saying, you know, Bronwin.

785
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 4: Was saying, I wasn't able to have this, and I

786
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 4: wasn't able to have a baby shower, and I couldn't

787
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 4: be celebrated, And the mother's response.

788
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: Was, how do you think I felt having to hide it?

789
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 3: Jaw Carlos.

790
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 4: That was equivalent to me when I said to my mom,

791
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: you put me in the trunk and she said, that

792
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 4: happened one time, bitch, I was in that truck. Like what,

793
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 4: It's the same thing, Like, well, how do you think

794
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 4: I feel having to hide it? It's like what your

795
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 4: daughter was the one going through what she was going through,

796
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 4: and you're gonna sit here and say, well, it happened

797
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 4: one time, Well, how do you think I felt?

798
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: Like? What the.

799
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: I honestly, it was it. It definitely felt like. Look,

800
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that Bronwyin kind of has some realizations like

801
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 4: I did. When you're in it and this is your norm,

802
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 4: you don't see and process things the same as when

803
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 4: you are sitting back watching it on the screen. So

804
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 4: I'm wondering how Bronwyn felt watching that back. It's an

805
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 4: out of body experience. For me, it was very eye

806
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 4: opening and led to me ultimately deciding I had to

807
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: cut that relationship off for my own health. So it's

808
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 4: it's it was very Yeah, it felt like I was

809
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 4: watching me and my mom again, to be honest, and

810
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 4: I'm glad you know that Bronwyn is sharing that that

811
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 4: was brutal I couldn't believe it, and just the smirks

812
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: and stuff that the mom was making, I just it

813
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 4: was very icky.

814
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 3: It was very icky.

815
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Now it made me sad. And what

816
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: was so interesting?

817
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: And I always wondered this when a parent can visibly

818
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: see across from them their child uncomfortable and crying, and.

819
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: How it doesn't move them.

820
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: I think that's a part for me, Like brahmant looks

821
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,959
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and said, and she's tearing up and the mother

822
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: is stone cold, And I was like, I feel that,

823
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: and I.

824
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: Promised you I thought of you. I thought of you.

825
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: In that moment, I was like, God, I thank you

826
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: for allowing Monica and I to have this conversation because

827
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear your POV and listen, I

828
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: agree with you. In a perfect world, I would love

829
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: to see you and Brahman talk about this because I

830
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: do think on that show Brahman needs somebody who relate

831
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: to her, and I think you may be the only

832
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: one who could.

833
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

834
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: It was.

835
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: Like I said, I haven't watched this show since my season,

836
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: so seeing that, I was like, whoah, Like what are

837
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 3: the odds?

838
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 4: Honestly, Carlos look I don't believe in coincidences. I feel

839
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 4: like everything happens for a reason. There was a reason

840
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: why I said no to everybody else and yes to you,

841
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 4: and there was a reason that that happened at this

842
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 4: point in time, right now and on this particular episode,

843
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 4: because that, Yeah, when you have a mom like that,

844
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 4: you do feel completely alone and like nobody understands. So

845
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 4: to watch that with Bronwyn, obviously I'm not I don't

846
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 4: wish that on anybody, but it was very much like wow,

847
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: Like to see a similar relationship continued on from me

848
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 4: and my mom felt in a way healing for me, like, Okay,

849
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: I'm not the only one that just displayed a relationship

850
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: like that with their mother, because as you saw, the

851
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 4: cast for me and my mom.

852
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: Was very cruel.

853
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 4: It was like I was a piece of crap. They

854
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: couldn't understand how someone could treat their mother like that.

855
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: Dah da da da da.

856
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 4: And like you said, I feel like Bronon really is

857
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 4: the only person on that cast I would understand why

858
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 4: I am the way I am towards my mother, you know.

859
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 4: So it was it was pretty intense, for sure.

860
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 2: No, it was, it was.

861
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: It was and look I will say this, it made

862
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: me miss you more on the show, and I believe

863
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: that you I don't believe become in sentences as well,

864
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: and I know that this happened for a reason, and

865
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for saying yes to me.

866
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to you offline, but what I

867
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: will say to you is thank you for stepping into

868
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: Reality but the King, because as you know, I'm a

869
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: fan and I have been for the moment you grace

870
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 1: the screen, and I'm so happy that we got a chance.

871
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: To finally and I hope this is one of many yes.

872
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: Yes be too Okay, all right, guys, given up for

873
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 2: Monica Garci.

874
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 3: Thank you, Carlos.

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by Me Carlos King,

876
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack

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