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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too. It is our number two of the drive

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Speaker 2: here on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 2: Black and Gold. Into the phone lines we go to

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Speaker 2: catch up with the queen of the sideline, Missy Matthews,

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Speaker 2: Steeler's sideline reporter here on this Thursday. Missy normally joins

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Speaker 2: us on Fridays, but was kind enough to call an

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Speaker 2: audible and join us today. Thank you for being light

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Speaker 2: on your feet as always, Missy, and for taking the time.

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Speaker 2: And hey, it's been a pretty quiet week or so

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Speaker 2: since we last spoke to you. Not much going on,

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Speaker 2: so let's kind of start in chronological order here. Steelers Hire,

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy over the weekend Saturday, you know, the news

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Speaker 2: and everything, the reports and over the weekend, and then

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Speaker 2: Tuesday the press conference becoming official. I know you were

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Speaker 2: down there at the press conference. Just what was kind

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Speaker 2: of your, you know, your first reaction when this news

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Speaker 3: I was slightly you know, surprised how quickly the process

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Speaker 3: going to take until the combine or rate before, but

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Speaker 3: I do feel like the Steelers did what they said

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Speaker 3: they were going to do. Specifically, what Arruni the second

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Speaker 3: not go in saying Okay, this is what has been

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Speaker 3: successful in our last three coaches when we hired them,

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Speaker 3: and clearly this is not the same, you know, prototypical

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Speaker 3: But I do think when you book now at the

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Speaker 3: candidates that were out there for various head coaching jobs

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Speaker 3: that were open, you kind of start to see almost

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Speaker 3: a pattern in a way, and a lot of guys

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Speaker 3: interviews for multiple jobs and whatnot. I think even you know,

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Speaker 3: and I just think, you know, when you really sit

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Speaker 3: back and look at Mike McCarthy's resume, what he's been

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Speaker 3: able to do. I jokingly say this, but also mean it.

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Speaker 3: Like to work in Dallas under Jerry Jones, I cannot

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Speaker 3: imagine is an easy thing. Specifically as a head coach,

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Speaker 3: a prominent person like that, you know, before you were

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Speaker 3: winning seasons there, I think says a lot. And you

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Speaker 3: look back at the quarterback history of guys that he

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Speaker 3: just the little things that Aaron Rodgers would say about

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Speaker 3: season last year. And then I think he won over

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Speaker 3: a lot of people in the press conference, which I

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Speaker 3: know Art said, you know to Bob Larila, like we're

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Speaker 3: not interested in winning the initial press conference, like it's

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Speaker 3: when we play games. But I think just seeing how

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Speaker 3: much it meant to him clearly makes you buy in,

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Speaker 3: like there's no way this guy is taking this opportunity

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Speaker 3: And you know, there's a lot of changes, the staff

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Speaker 3: he jumped right in. It was you know, exciting for

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Speaker 4: So Missy, I don't know if you agree, but there's

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Speaker 4: two things that absolutely stand out above all else, trying

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Speaker 4: to get through the eyes of mister Rooney of why

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Speaker 4: he would make this decision compared to the other candidates.

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Speaker 4: And number one is kind of what you mentioned, identifying

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Speaker 4: You know, you think that's very much in and you

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Speaker 3: Way for sure. But I do think you know there

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Speaker 3: trying hard enough to be good. It's you know, I

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Speaker 3: think the quote was something along the lines that like,

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Speaker 3: not getting it. You're all to try to obtain the

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Speaker 2: No, it certainly does. And that is you know, I

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Speaker 2: think I think everyone was surprised that it wasn't the

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Speaker 4: We've joked about this so West like it's their typical,

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Speaker 4: Like they do this all the time. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: It's like they're every week swiping on a dating app

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Speaker 2: to imagine though, with a guy like Mike McCarthy, I mean,

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Speaker 2: we we all saw it. It felt like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he'd probably thought there was not a chance

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Speaker 3: And it reminds me of you know, after the team

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Speaker 3: maybe that's why he, you know, was ready to go

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Speaker 3: for the interview process. I think he said this. There

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Speaker 3: were three interviews he went on. But it all just

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Speaker 3: seems to make perfect sense now that we've started the

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Speaker 3: build a staff roster. You know, you start thinking combines

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Speaker 3: the beginning of April, which is bizarre because that has

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Speaker 4: So the Steelers have two guys that are elder statesmen,

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Speaker 4: NFL terms, No matter what your round players much much

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Speaker 4: Do you have a hunch on either? How do you

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Speaker 4: they seem happy. I'm sure that they weren't happy with

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know they're not going to consult you

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Speaker 3: Mean they could for a low fee.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, you know the contract.

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Speaker 3: Right like you know, I take less than like a

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Speaker 3: Just feel like Cam has continued to beat father time

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Speaker 3: at a point where you can't happen now for Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 3: I have absolutely no idea. Yes, do I think that

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Speaker 3: Like he could still want to play though and say hey,

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Speaker 3: just too many unknowns. But I wouldn't be mad if

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Speaker 3: the energy that he brought, the way he unified the team,

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Speaker 3: And I also, you know, kept going back to some

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Speaker 3: throughout the season and just the things that Will Howard

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Speaker 3: entire time. And I just think it's not a bad

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Speaker 3: not resetting. But it has to be a new culture.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be a completely new you know,

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Speaker 3: Not going great. No, I am curious, you know, maybe

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Speaker 3: Maybe it is just kind of hey, you're that rookie guy.

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Speaker 3: But man, Matt, I remember how excited you were PURSUEDO

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Speaker 2: The queen to the sideline, Missy Matthews, kind enough to

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Speaker 2: great stuff as always. Thank you, And if you are

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Speaker 3: I'm the queen of virtual school right now. But yes,

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Speaker 2: Am not looking forward to those virtual schooling days that

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Speaker 3: Come on, No, no, it's horrible, it's horrible.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Missy, take care. We'll talk to you soon. Okay, bye, guys,

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Speaker 2: There she goes. Great stuff as always from Missy Matthews. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I can't. Well, you did that with your kids during COVID,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's perspective? I was about to lend those my

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I let them go, chalk it up.

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Speaker 4: And you know my daughter's tick.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think they learned nathing during COVID, but

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Speaker 4: One shoe doesn't want to hear it. That's what lebo

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys are crazy, tough, tough, tough hoood.

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