WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Miracle In The Desert

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<v Speaker 7>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 8>And Darren Urban, I'll bolt.

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<v Speaker 1>This Urban kid fre You know, as much as I

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<v Speaker 1>despised Shakespeare in college as an English undergrad, I love

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<v Speaker 1>a good Shakespearean tragedy in football, especially when it happens

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<v Speaker 1>to the opponent. And that is why we are gathered

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<v Speaker 1>here today for this very special Cardinals Folktales edition of

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<v Speaker 1>The Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford in Gilbert

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<v Speaker 1>Miracle in the Desert. That is the title of tonight's episode,

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<v Speaker 1>as we hit the rewind button and go back into

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals history, all time anecdotes, as we like to say,

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals folktales where you can't spell the word history without

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<v Speaker 1>the word story. Paul Calvic here, Darren Urban was there

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<v Speaker 1>covered the game back in two thousand and three. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the rare game, Darren, where it was best remembered

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<v Speaker 1>for what both teams did not get. The Vikings do

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<v Speaker 1>not get a playoff Berth, the Cardinals did not get

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<v Speaker 1>the first pick in the draft. Talking about this season

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<v Speaker 1>and Alley two thousand and three.

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<v Speaker 8>This is true. I hadn't really thought about it that

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<v Speaker 8>but but you know you, going negative doesn't really surprise

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<v Speaker 8>me that much, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, the real winner was a team that wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>the game.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, that's true that Green Bay Packers got through the

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<v Speaker 8>playoffs because of that result, and they they did feel

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<v Speaker 8>like winners that day. And Nate Poole can attest to

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<v Speaker 8>that because he ended up in Green Bay a week

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<v Speaker 8>later at the playoff game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's by far the highlight of Nate Poole's career. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna learn. In fact, you tell us since you

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<v Speaker 1>where were you, by the way, for Nate Pool's shining moment?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you still in the press.

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<v Speaker 8>Pot those in those days, all the reporters would gather

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<v Speaker 8>in the corner of the end zone, and we were

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<v Speaker 8>down on the end of the field that the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 8>scored upon. We were just on the other side. So

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<v Speaker 8>we were down there in the between the back line,

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<v Speaker 8>the back of the goal line, in about the ten

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<v Speaker 8>yard line, watching this unfold. Couldn't see exactly because it

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<v Speaker 8>was on the far sideline the catch, but you could

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<v Speaker 8>hear the crowd explode. I was down there when you know,

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<v Speaker 8>Josh McCown was pleading to the official to give them

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<v Speaker 8>the call when they were going to the replay. I

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<v Speaker 8>remember that very distinctly because we were on the field

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<v Speaker 8>by then and it was just it was an amazing

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<v Speaker 8>end to what turned out to be Dave McGinnis's career

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<v Speaker 8>as the head coach, and obviously it was a springboard

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<v Speaker 8>to them getting Larry Fitzgerald.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was a lot of change after this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Going into the game, though, I mean, what were the

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<v Speaker 1>odds the Cardinals had a chance to really win a

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<v Speaker 1>game when they hadn't won a game in nearly two months,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Vikings needed the game to clinch a playoff spot.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, the funny thing is is, not only did anybody

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<v Speaker 8>think the Cardinals really had a chance, but even if

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<v Speaker 8>they lost, it didn't look real good for them to

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<v Speaker 8>get the number one overall pick. They needed a couple

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<v Speaker 8>of bad teams to win, and it ended up working

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<v Speaker 8>out that way if they had had lost. But then again,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, the vice Kings came in. I'm guessing they

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<v Speaker 8>were a little overconfident. I don't know. I remember watching

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<v Speaker 8>the game from the press box thinking to myself, they

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<v Speaker 8>don't look like they're ready to put this team away.

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<v Speaker 8>The Vikings don't look like they're ready to put the

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<v Speaker 8>Cardinals away. And those Cardinal teams were not good, but

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<v Speaker 8>they did give effort. And you had a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>guys out there playing for the first time or very

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<v Speaker 8>inexperienced Josh McCown, Reggie Wells. I mean, you go down

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<v Speaker 8>the list, and they just didn't give up. Now, they

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<v Speaker 8>needed some bounces there at the end, for sure, but

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<v Speaker 8>the fact they were even in shouting distance of the

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<v Speaker 8>game never should have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna get a full recap here because it

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<v Speaker 1>really is gripping. I mean, the first three quarters of

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<v Speaker 1>the game not so much, but it was seventeen to

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<v Speaker 1>six Vikings with under seven minutes to play. Then just

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<v Speaker 1>after the two minute warning it's a one score game.

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<v Speaker 1>You need the on sidekick Neil Rackers, right, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a master at making the ball do different things. He

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<v Speaker 1>had that soccer background, and then things just got really

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<v Speaker 1>crazy from there. I mean, with all due respect to

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<v Speaker 1>a young Dave Pash behind the mic, it's the rare

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<v Speaker 1>game where the truly memorable radio calls came from a

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<v Speaker 1>the losing team and be the team that really benefited

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<v Speaker 1>two time zones away who needed a Cardinals win more

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<v Speaker 1>than the Cardinals did.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, there's definitely some memorable calls. With all due respect

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<v Speaker 8>to Dave, I don't know if he ranks in the

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<v Speaker 8>top two there, but it was an amazing time all

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<v Speaker 8>the way around, just because of how it ended and

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<v Speaker 8>what it meant and just the memories of that game

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<v Speaker 8>and for Josh mccount and aatepool.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna hear how it all unfolded in real

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<v Speaker 1>time at the time two thousand and three. Heck, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a holiday season and the Cardinals rock team Santa Colors, right, red,

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<v Speaker 1>white and black. So this was their own gift, their

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<v Speaker 1>own parting gift to the home fans. And when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back and this very special Cardinals Folk Tales edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Big Red Rage, we'll hear it for ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>Miracle in the Desert presented by santan Ford in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back into our special Cardinals Folk Tales edition

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<v Speaker 1>of The Big Red Rage, resented by Santanford in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 1>We're hit in rewind into Cardinals history because remember, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't spell the word history without the word story, and

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<v Speaker 1>boy do we have one. From the final week of

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season two thousand and three, Cardinals were hosting

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings and the Cardinals had exactly nothing to play

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<v Speaker 1>for beyond the number one pick, which they would secure

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<v Speaker 1>with a loss. The ninety six Vikings came in. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>they had started six and oh that season, but their

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<v Speaker 1>playoff hopes were on the line. They needed a win

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<v Speaker 1>to secure a postseason berth and the week before they

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<v Speaker 1>had already KOed KC forty five to twenty. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a Kansas City team that went thirteen and three in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three. So with that in mind, not

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<v Speaker 1>many gave the Cardinals a chance. But as quarterback of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, Josh McCown would say, later, Hey, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>around coach McGuinness. He can make any game feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. And that would be foreshadowing because coach McGinnis,

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<v Speaker 1>who was great with the medium, also had a great

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<v Speaker 1>comparison between the two receivers on the field that day

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<v Speaker 1>who were college teammates once upon a time at Marshall.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll hear that a little bit later, but the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about Nate Poole thirty six career games in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. He managed a total of thirty four career

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<v Speaker 1>catches and two touchdowns, but at the end of his

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<v Speaker 1>brief time in the NFL, only one of those thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four receptions truly mattered. It got him a key to

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<v Speaker 1>a city, It got him a personalized phone call from

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<v Speaker 1>a mayor. It got him a local TV commercial all

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<v Speaker 1>in the city of Green Bay. So with that as

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<v Speaker 1>the background, let's hit that rewind button to Miracle in

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<v Speaker 1>the Desert. It's the final week of two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 1>this season finale that would end the year for two teams.

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<v Speaker 5>The count throwing far side into the end zone and

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<v Speaker 5>the ball.

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<v Speaker 6>Is touchdown Turtinals.

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<v Speaker 7>An unbelievable turn of events. Not here at lambeau Field,

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<v Speaker 7>but in the desert, you would.

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<v Speaker 3>Have thought we won Super Bowl. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 3>an unbelievable moment.

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<v Speaker 6>The Vikings are going home for the new year.

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<v Speaker 2>You just don't lose like that. Nobody loses like that,

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<v Speaker 2>Let alone to Nathan Poole.

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<v Speaker 9>And they pulls a good person to make that play.

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<v Speaker 9>He deserves it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not one other Minnesota Vikings are even moving right now.

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<v Speaker 10>You lose a game and it opens the door for

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<v Speaker 10>your worst enemy.

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<v Speaker 7>The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're going to

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<v Speaker 7>be host of the game.

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<v Speaker 10>It was as if the sun fell out of the sky.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, it was miserable day of existence.

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<v Speaker 1>That time that two teams played one game, that stop

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<v Speaker 1>time in three cities was a Cardinals receiver in or

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<v Speaker 1>out of bounds? Were the Vikings and Packers in or

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<v Speaker 1>out of the playoffs? Who would be drafting one, two,

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<v Speaker 1>and three? All dictated by a Cardinals win that some

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<v Speaker 1>viewed as a loss.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we've ben The fans were like now, let's

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<v Speaker 5>just get this season over and get the number one

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<v Speaker 5>pick walk away with the Eli manning.

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<v Speaker 9>There was something to play for there there. You know

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<v Speaker 9>they're playing for something. We can be playing for something too.

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<v Speaker 11>He got flushed out to the right. I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 11>here he come, being to.

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<v Speaker 7>The Angelic County.

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<v Speaker 10>Knocked me out at number one pick too. Man, I've

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<v Speaker 10>probably been the first pick of the draft. Man, they

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<v Speaker 10>cost me, Nate poll Man. I'd never forgive him for that.

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<v Speaker 10>I tell them that all the time.

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<v Speaker 7>Nathan Paul may become a household.

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<v Speaker 6>Name in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 11>This is Mayle Schmidt. I love to get you out

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<v Speaker 11>to one of the games. I said, oh no, I

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<v Speaker 11>would love to come out.

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<v Speaker 2>He was given a key to the city of Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay and he got to go to their playoff game.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to

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<v Speaker 12>go out in Green Bay if that is his desire.

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<v Speaker 12>He will have a lot of people who will take

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<v Speaker 12>good care of him.

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<v Speaker 1>To the winner goes the Spoils. That's after the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>took care of the Vikings. All right, a big win,

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<v Speaker 1>but the big winner the Packers welcome into Cardinals Folktales

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<v Speaker 1>Miracle in the Desert presented by seventy two Souls, where

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<v Speaker 1>we go in depth into Cardinals history, all time anecdotes

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<v Speaker 1>through the recollections and memories of those who lived in

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<v Speaker 1>or in my case, those who covered it. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Paul Kelvic, Cardinals sideline reporter. We're talking about that

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<v Speaker 1>time when little known Nate Poole got the key to

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<v Speaker 1>a city. While his own fan base lamented what it

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<v Speaker 1>did not get.

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<v Speaker 3>People said, well, y'all, you know you cost it the

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<v Speaker 3>number one pick.

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<v Speaker 5>The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinal's history

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<v Speaker 5>and one of the greatest receivers of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 12>Got down down.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I can't believe what just happened.

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<v Speaker 6>The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the great calls, one of the great thrill

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<v Speaker 1>of victory, agony of defeat moments in NFL history, every

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<v Speaker 1>bit as much Shakespearean tragedy as season finale. December twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three. Cardinals playing for the number one

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<v Speaker 1>pick with a loss, the Vikings playing for the postseason

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<v Speaker 1>with a win or a Packers loss. Yet none of

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<v Speaker 1>the above happened. Here's former head coach Dave McGinnis and

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback Josh McCown.

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<v Speaker 5>We gotta win a game and we haven't won a

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<v Speaker 5>game in seven weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we need to win a ballgame. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people I know pulling.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously.

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<v Speaker 9>Coach McGinnis was fantastic in front of the room. He

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<v Speaker 9>was very captivating, and that was one of the things

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<v Speaker 9>that he talked about was just the ability to knock

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<v Speaker 9>those guys off. You know that they were coming in,

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<v Speaker 9>they had to beat us, and you know they were

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<v Speaker 9>going to get into the playoffs, and so there was

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<v Speaker 9>something to play for there there. You know, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 9>just a game where we're gonna roll the ball out

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<v Speaker 9>there and get it over with and go home. He

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<v Speaker 9>was like, man, this is they're playing for something. We

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<v Speaker 9>can be playing for something too.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and three, it was a sixteen game season.

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals entered the final week three and twelve. The Vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>after a six and oho start, were nine and six,

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<v Speaker 1>coming off a ko of KC the week before a

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<v Speaker 1>forty five to twenty drubbing of a Chiefs team that

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<v Speaker 1>would finish thirteen and three. So all the Vikings had

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<v Speaker 1>to do what everyone expected him to do, polish off

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<v Speaker 1>a reeling Cardinals team with a quarterback making his third

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<v Speaker 1>career start, a coach about to be fired, and the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL's all time leading rusher getting peppered about his own

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<v Speaker 1>future on Christmas Eve.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, who knows? We can play hypothetical all day?

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<v Speaker 13>Is Maczia great? But if he's not here, people coming in,

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<v Speaker 13>what their plans are, what their ideas, and what they thought.

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<v Speaker 2>So I gotta win on all that.

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<v Speaker 13>So you asking me to make up answer to something

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<v Speaker 13>that I don't have all the information to, that's stupid.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm not that stupid.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, please, somebody changing.

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<v Speaker 1>Something to please?

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 13>How about the spirit of Jollyness and happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>That's former Cardinals running back and Hall of Famer Emmitt Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>And hey, no doubt what would make the Red Sea

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<v Speaker 1>jolly and happy? The number one overall pick under their tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the voice of the Cardinals, Dave Pash was in

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<v Speaker 1>his second season three.

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<v Speaker 5>And you endure that long of a season and you're

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<v Speaker 5>calling games for a team that's losing a lot of games.

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<v Speaker 5>The one thing is, okay, you got a chance to

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<v Speaker 5>get a franchise changing quarterback. Let's just get through this

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<v Speaker 5>and get to that draft. Get your guy, enjoy the

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<v Speaker 5>next ten years and a couple of Super Bowls that

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<v Speaker 5>whole year.

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<v Speaker 9>You grow up fast in this business and you go, wait,

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<v Speaker 9>they're gonna fire these coaches. Wait a minute, they could

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<v Speaker 9>draft a new quarterback, like, you know, I was just

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<v Speaker 9>a quarterback of the future two days ago.

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<v Speaker 3>That You know, all these things, you grow really fast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Cardinals could be Josh McCown, the third round pick

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<v Speaker 1>the year before, who earned the final three starts of

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<v Speaker 1>that O three season and tried to channel the confidence

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<v Speaker 1>that his head coach Dave McGinnis showed in him against

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<v Speaker 1>NFC North leading Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 9>I think when you look at their roster U when

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<v Speaker 9>they're coming out to us with everything to play for,

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<v Speaker 9>I think it was a tall task. Uh So looking

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<v Speaker 9>at that going yeah, we're gonna beat the Minnesota Vikings.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, realistically, I don't know if that was you know,

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<v Speaker 9>if that was an easy sale for coach, but he

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<v Speaker 9>did a good job of framing that for us. And

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<v Speaker 9>and and I think he was, you know, benefited from

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<v Speaker 9>a young quarterback who didn't know any better and just

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<v Speaker 9>was gonna go out and play the game.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the Cardinals and Vikings from Tempe Arizona Sun Devil Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a lot of action for the announcers to call

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<v Speaker 1>in a fifty one degree day, a virtual snooze fest

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<v Speaker 1>six ze at halftime, seven to six entering the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>quarter when Randy Moss scores on a seven yard pass.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot closer than many thought it would be, especially

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<v Speaker 5>with a playoff spot on the line of the Vikings win,

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<v Speaker 5>they clinched their division. If they lose and Green Bay wins,

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<v Speaker 5>they're out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, just over two minutes later, a forty six yard

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<v Speaker 1>fuel goal makes it seventeen to six Vikings with six

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight to play, but hang on. On the first

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<v Speaker 1>play after the two minute warning.

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<v Speaker 5>Mccount takes play, bank rolls to his right, mccount in trouble, flushdown,

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<v Speaker 5>throws end zone and going down to make the catch

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<v Speaker 5>for a touchdown of Steve Bush. Steve Bush with a

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<v Speaker 5>touchdown catch. Great improv job by Josh McCown.

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<v Speaker 1>A fourteen play touchdown drive bought. The two point conversion failed,

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<v Speaker 1>so at seventeen to twelve Vikings, a score echoed on

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers broadcast.

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<v Speaker 7>Game Minnesota leading seventeen to twelve. Remember, the only way

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<v Speaker 7>the Packers can make the playoffs now is if Minnesota

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<v Speaker 7>loses this football game somehow, some way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the radio call at Lambell, Wayne Larrvie and Larry

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<v Speaker 1>McCarron paying close attention nearly two thousand miles away in

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay, Cardinals are.

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<v Speaker 5>Going to try to recover an onside kick to perhaps

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<v Speaker 5>give us a little bit more time to broadcast.

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<v Speaker 14>Luckily, that day I wasn't demolition, I was recovery. And

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<v Speaker 14>you know, Josh Kobe and company went in there, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>blasting guys and right place, right time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's former Cardinals running back Damien Anderson. And that's the recipe,

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<v Speaker 1>the mentality for a successful onside kick, because that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what the Cardinals needed. Good news, the Cards are just

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<v Speaker 1>picked up one of the best in the business in

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<v Speaker 1>Neil Rackers.

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<v Speaker 5>So on fifty four to play. Neil Rackers is very

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<v Speaker 5>good on side kick.

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<v Speaker 9>We were all standing there, you know, waiting him because

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<v Speaker 9>that was we knew that that was the next piece.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, you had to get that to keep the

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<v Speaker 9>ball game going. And you know, Neil hits a perfect ball,

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<v Speaker 9>and I mean it was just how you drew it up,

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<v Speaker 9>you know. And Damien comes up with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Rackers are the on side kick far aside and it

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<v Speaker 5>bounce us in the air. Hey, the Cardinals have it.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the forty two.

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<v Speaker 5>Davian Anderson comes up with it on the re direction

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<v Speaker 5>and the Cards have a chance. With one fifty four

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<v Speaker 5>to play.

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<v Speaker 7>The Arizona Cardinals tried an onside kick and Larry Loan

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<v Speaker 7>tohold they recovered it with a minute fifty four to

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<v Speaker 7>go in that football game in the desert and the

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<v Speaker 7>Vikings leading seventeen to twelve.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I'm going to shut up about this last game.

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<v Speaker 14>Stuff done.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe they don't have a miracle. Keep talking about it.

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<v Speaker 7>You may be jinxing us into something good here.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe that miracle can't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>You get to that on side kick, and now all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, all bets are off. I mean, anything

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<v Speaker 2>can happen against anybody anytime, and as we know, it did.

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<v Speaker 1>That's longtime voice of the Vikings Paul Out. More from

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<v Speaker 1>him later, much more soul Cardinals had the ball back

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<v Speaker 1>one fifty four left sixty one yards to go, needing

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown. With one time out. After a thirty yard

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<v Speaker 1>pass interference and a thirteen yard completion in Nate Pool,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals reached the Minnesota nine with thirty nine seconds

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<v Speaker 1>to go.

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<v Speaker 7>I meanwhile out in the desert in Arizona, getting a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit closer.

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<v Speaker 8>You know people are aware of this because you could

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<v Speaker 8>hear a thousand in the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>There is definitely everyone is out of their seats in

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<v Speaker 1>three different states. When Josh McCown is put on his seat,

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<v Speaker 1>two straight plays quit drop of McCown looking.

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<v Speaker 5>Left, hump back, and a pound sacked back at the

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<v Speaker 5>seventeen yyline. McCown flushed out running near side, lost the ball,

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<v Speaker 5>it's loose, and the Cardinals able the pound sign up

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<v Speaker 5>of the twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 9>Himmitt has a presence of mind to go, Josh, get up,

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<v Speaker 9>get up. We gotta get the ball. Snap we got well,

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<v Speaker 9>Tom House, we gotta go. So we get to play

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<v Speaker 9>call and then you know, and then we you know,

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<v Speaker 9>fortunately get the bolls.

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<v Speaker 14>You knew that was josh skill set, Like call a

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<v Speaker 14>play that works for him, you know, get him out,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, get him out in some space so he'll

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<v Speaker 14>have a multitude of options.

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<v Speaker 5>The clock running down under fifteen seconds left. It's fourth

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<v Speaker 5>down at twenty four and it's.

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<v Speaker 12>Gonna come down to this.

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<v Speaker 5>They gotta throw it into.

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<v Speaker 12>The end zone. This is it.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourth down, fourth and twenty five from the twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers and Vikings playoff hopes hanging in the balance

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<v Speaker 1>once again. Voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen.

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<v Speaker 2>There was worry and anxiety and teeth gnashing every step

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<v Speaker 2>of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Green Bay, you still watching, you bet you?

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<v Speaker 7>And they're winding it down in Arizona. This is the

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<v Speaker 7>last gas, fourth and twenty four, back outside the twenty five.

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<v Speaker 5>And here we go eight seconds seven six five four.

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<v Speaker 7>The count of the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>This will be the last play. The count steps up,

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<v Speaker 5>rolling far side.

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<v Speaker 8>Just so happened.

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<v Speaker 11>He got flushed, He got flushed out to the right.

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<v Speaker 11>I said, oh, here he come, the.

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<v Speaker 5>Count throwing far side into the end zone and the

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<v Speaker 5>ball is pup, touchdown.

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<v Speaker 12>Cardinal's Nate Poll and.

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<v Speaker 6>The Cardinals win the game on the final pool and

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<v Speaker 6>the thin Kiggers.

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<v Speaker 1>Are going home for the new year.

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<v Speaker 11>Josh Man, you know the whole time he's running, he's rolling,

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<v Speaker 11>he's pointing to the right. I'm inside, I know he's

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<v Speaker 11>about to throw it over there and the defender he

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<v Speaker 11>had no clue. He had no clue.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great throw by Josh McCown.

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<v Speaker 5>He threw it up rolling Nate Poole could.

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<v Speaker 10>Get it, and he did it.

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<v Speaker 9>I felt like it was just there was a connection

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<v Speaker 9>for us, you know, and so boom there is and

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<v Speaker 9>then the ball came out, uh and he makes an

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<v Speaker 9>unbelievable cash.

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<v Speaker 6>The Cardinals winning on the final play.

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<v Speaker 5>Josh mccount fin's made pool in the back of the

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<v Speaker 5>end zone of the far side.

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<v Speaker 9>You would have thought we won a super Bowl. And

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, it was an unbelievable moment, and and it

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<v Speaker 9>meant a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>To those guys out, but it meant even more to

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Poole, the guy who had been cut four times

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<v Speaker 1>and then he cut loose against the visiting Vikings fans

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<v Speaker 1>who had populated and dominated Sun Devil Stadium trash talk

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<v Speaker 1>in three two one take lso.

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<v Speaker 11>Don't come back deal and next to y'alling the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Poole the living embodiment of the ups and downs

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<v Speaker 1>of an NFL game. He was something fired up while

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<v Speaker 1>those Viking fans could have been more let down. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Poole was a player who was always in proven mode,

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<v Speaker 1>always existing on the edge of the roster, so he

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<v Speaker 1>played with an edge. We heard it right there, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing when you look back, how that one catch,

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<v Speaker 1>that one toe tapping catch that proved to be a

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<v Speaker 1>game winner, How it set off a domino effect, a

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<v Speaker 1>whole litany of changes that all altered the history of

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<v Speaker 1>not only the Cardinals, but basically all the teams atop

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<v Speaker 1>that two thousand and four draft franchise quarterbacks going two

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<v Speaker 1>different teams, the Cardinals getting themselves a Hall of Famer

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<v Speaker 1>as well, who might have gone number one overall off

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals were in that position, but they weren't. And

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<v Speaker 1>the changes even extended to the rule book years later.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that when we come back. And don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget Nate Pool was not just a celebrity in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the toast of the town in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll relive all that when we come back to

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<v Speaker 1>this very special Cardinals Folktales edition of the Big Red

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<v Speaker 1>Rage Miracle in the Desert, presented by santan Ford in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 1>It's our special Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big Red

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<v Speaker 1>Rage presented by a Santan Ford in Gilbert. This is

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<v Speaker 1>where we go into Cardinals history, go into the archives.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't spell the word history without the word story. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the final game of the two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and three season. My name is Paul Calvi.

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<v Speaker 3>Seen.

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<v Speaker 1>We started by saying, remember that one time, that one

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<v Speaker 1>game played by two teams in two thousand and three,

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that stop time in three different NFL cities. Remember Nate Poole,

0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals receiver, and was the in or out of bounds?

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 1>We pose that question, Well, he was most definitely inbounds,

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.919
<v Speaker 1>and the Vikings were most definitely out of the playoffs,

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and the Cardinals were out of the top pick in

0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 1>the draft. We'll get to that, but remember when it

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 1>comes to the Vikings, you're talking about a team that

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<v Speaker 1>not only started six to zero and was on the

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<v Speaker 1>verge of the playoffs, but that season, the four worst

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 1>teams in the league were the Giants, the Raiders, the Chargers,

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and the Cardinals. Each team finished four and twelve. Each

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:59.159
<v Speaker 1>one of those teams beat the Vikings, So you can

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:03.879
<v Speaker 1>imagine the on the Minnesota side. In fact, their radio announcer,

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the voice of the Vikings Paul Allen became a meme

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:11.200
<v Speaker 1>before there even were memes in social media, and that's

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:15.399
<v Speaker 1>where we rejoined this edition of Cardinals Folktales Miracle in

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the Desert, and former Cardinals quarterback Josh McCown two years

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 1>later had empathy for the Vikings.

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 9>Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings because

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:31.920
<v Speaker 9>they were right there on the cusp and to lose.

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 3>That way, man, that's bitter.

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Nate Poole's game winning, playoff busting, last second, fourth down

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:43.560
<v Speaker 1>touchdown catch was one of his two two career touchdowns,

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 1>leaving the Vikings on the outside of the playoff picture

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:50.680
<v Speaker 1>looking in as radio voice Paul Allen and company were

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:53.120
<v Speaker 1>left in a state of utter disbelief.

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 2>People were just staring longingly on the team bust to

0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 2>the airport. Nobody knew what to say, and they were

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:00.479
<v Speaker 2>just down trodden.

0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 5>And you just don't lose like that.

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Nobody loses like that, let alone to Nathan Poole, not

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 2>ang Kwam Bolden. So I mean, now as we connect

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 2>the dots, you know, of the entire thing over twenty years,

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 2>it hits me so vividly because of how emotional it

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:19.639
<v Speaker 2>was at that moment.

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 6>The season's on the line, two receivers left and right.

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 6>McCown takes the snap.

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.919
<v Speaker 1>He steps up, he's all by himself.

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 6>Fires into the end zone.

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:31.920
<v Speaker 12>DoD dods down.

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 6>No, no, the Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:40.159
<v Speaker 6>the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>The previous owner of the team, Red McCombs, hated that call.

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 2>He didn't let me know, but he let others know.

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Some vice presidents here, so you know, I had some

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 2>conversations with some vice presidents and I'm like, you know,

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 2>you don't script moments like that, and that's what came out.

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 2>So I had to deal with that very young in

0:25:58.320 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 2>my career.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand we're Paul's coming from. You get invested in

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 5>the team. It's your team, and I thought Paul handled

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.679
<v Speaker 5>it perfectly. Some people might say, uh, it's not professional,

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 5>but that's how the fans feeling.

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 3>No, are you kidding?

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 7>Right?

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:13.719
<v Speaker 5>That was Paul's reaction.

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 2>One thing I remember about the call is I looked

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 2>to my left where the coaches were, and our linebackers

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 2>coach at that time, he bursage. He could hear me

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 2>through the glass yelling no, no, no, no, And then

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.159
<v Speaker 2>I came down. The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 2>of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 6>The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs.

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 2>The way he looked at me, it was not anger

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 2>at me. It was one of two things. Oh my god,

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe what just happened. Oh my god, that

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 2>check that I was going to get for a playoff bonus,

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 2>it just went up into the tenpiece.

0:26:56.520 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Guy from Minnesota fans saying you sunk my Viking ship.

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Just the sheer agony of it all to the utter

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:12.200
<v Speaker 1>ecstasy of cheesehead nation listening on the Packers radio network.

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 15>And here we go.

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 7>This is if the season for the Packers. On the

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 7>line into the end zone, the count pack Hey got

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 7>hat cutting down?

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 6>It is autun on Packers by label.

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 1>The complete bedlook from Wayne Larity and Larry McCarron reacting

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to a game they're not even calling, just watching from

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 1>two thousand miles away.

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 7>Patters the biggestmericon on the Packers. Sadly, any reps Packers,

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 7>They finally realizes, any reps. I'm a final playoff.

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 6>The regular season for the fight Kings pay.

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 7>Lose eighteen to seventeen. The Packers not only make the playoffs,

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 7>they're gonna be host of the game.

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:01.120
<v Speaker 1>True Brett Farvan. The Packers would host the Seahawks at

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 1>lambeaut to open the playoffs. Later, Dave mcginni shared with

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the media that Packers coach Mike Sherman and GM Mark

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Hadley called him and said, quote, you're a bleeping king

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 1>here in Green Bay. The thing is back in Tempee,

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>speaking of coach mac different emotions, a different reality started

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>to set in as the Cardinals locker room grew quiet,

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>almost somber.

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 16>For all that we've been through, we never quit on

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 16>each other. It was a constant, constant reminder of what

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 16>character I've got in this room.

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I've never been afraid to tell you that I love you.

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 9>It was somber, and it's very soberinging. You're just like, man,

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 9>back to reality. This is what we're faced with. And

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 9>he was genuine with his words, and you know, and

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 9>how I caried about guys, and so I think he

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 9>understood in that moment that that was probably, you know,

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 9>the last time or one of the last times he

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 9>was going to address us as a group.

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 17>I've never been afraid to open myself to you because

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 17>you've got my heart. You've got my heart, You know.

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 9>It's a roller coaster, really, because you were just as

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 9>high as it gets. You know, for fifteen twenty minutes,

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 9>they're celebrating and enjoying one another, and then you know,

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 9>the business sets in.

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 15>When Nate Poole gave me this ball that he caught.

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 15>What did I tell you last night? I cut this

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 15>man four times. I cut him four times, and every

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 15>time I did, he stood up in my office and

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 15>hugged me and said, Mike, if you need me, I'll

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 15>be back because you're the only man I want to

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 15>play for.

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's the way I know that all of you

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>feel right now.

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 11>It was real motion on It was like you know,

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 11>your last family hug, you know, and you know, and

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 11>it hurt because we know, you know, he's a player's

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 11>coach and he loved the players. He want the players

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 11>to do, you know, to excel, to be really great.

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what I feel for you, You know what

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel for you.

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 17>This was a tremendous, tremendous demonstration of men that not

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 17>only love each other, but believe, believe, believe.

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 11>You know, most of us felt like we let Dave

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 11>down because you know, we didn't come up on the

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 11>winning side. Of a lot of these games to keep

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:31.479
<v Speaker 11>him around.

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I'll never ever give up on you.

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 7>I love you.

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>On the very next day, with a feign twelfth season

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>in the books, Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis was indeed fired.

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Vikings head coach Mike Tye survived despite the Vikings collapse

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>after that six and oh start. As for the Packers,

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the party was just starting and Nate Poole's celebrity was growing.

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 7>Nathan Pole of all people hop about that Nathan Cole

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 7>may become a household name in Green Bay.

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 2>It was an amazing play. But you know, like I

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 2>say about Nathan, and I'm not being disparaging here, but

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 2>that was his fifteen minutes of fame. And then of

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 2>course the next week he was given a key to

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 2>the city of Green Bay and he got to go

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>to their playoff game, and that is accurate. Nate Poole,

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 2>who going into the season finale had eight catches all

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 2>season and no touchdowns, was now Packers royalty, to the

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 2>point where he got a call from the mayor of

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay.

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 11>So Mayor Schmitz gave me a call and I was like, oh,

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 11>here we go. Stop calling my phone. Because I'm thinking

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 11>it's a player, and I'm thinking he's gonna call that

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 11>player's gonna call me back and say, man, dude, what

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 11>are you doing? Then I got a call right back.

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 11>It was the same number, and I'm like, okay, hey,

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 11>how you doing this in April? And he was like, Hey, Nate, no,

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 11>this is not a joke. This is Mayor Schmidt. I

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 11>love to get you out in a speed talking I

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 11>love to get you out to one of the games.

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 11>I said, oh no, I would love to come out.

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>And that's not the only call he got that week.

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>On the Big Red Rage radio show with host Dave Pash,

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>a Packers fan dialed in from the Midwest line too.

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 5>Dave, Mary Joe, Mary Joe, Welcome to the Big Red Rage.

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 12>Go ahead, Hey guys, thanks a lot. I was just

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 12>calling to wish Nate a wonderful time in Green Bay

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 12>and to give him a huge thank you. Since the

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 12>Vikings started off six and oh this year, I've been

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 12>taking a lot of grief or getting a lot of

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 12>grief from my friends who are Viking fans, and I

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 12>would roll my eyes and just say, oh, you know,

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 12>won't you ever learn the Vikings will find some way

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 12>to implode again this year and sweet revenge. It has

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 12>been a wonderful couple of days and I just want

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 12>to offer a great bitch thank you.

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 5>Hey, Mary Joe, how about taking date out to dinner

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 5>when he gets up there.

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 12>I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 12>go out in Green Bay if that is his desire.

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 12>He will have a lot of people who will take

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 12>good care of him.

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Nate Poole laughed all the way to Green Bay, an

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>all expense paid trip in January on the tax Beyer's

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>tap as the undrafted receiver from Marshall became a grand

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Marshal of sorts. But don't forget about the other end

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.479
<v Speaker 1>of that touchdown pass QB. Josh McCown.

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 9>You know, they flying Nate up to Green Bay and

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 9>they give him a Kidah City or whatever they did,

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:38.239
<v Speaker 9>and they're sending us.

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 3>We were getting Christmas.

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 9>Cards from Green Bay fans that it was their family

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 9>Christmas card and you know it, you know, scratched out.

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 3>Merry Christmas and thank you for beating the vikings.

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 9>Go Pat go, and loads of Christmas cards mail to

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 9>the house of the Sargento family sent the best cheese

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 9>basket you've ever seen in your life.

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>That was two thousand three. But even to this day,

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>when he's out and about, Josh McCown gets reaction for

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.919
<v Speaker 1>both school Nation and America's dairy Land.

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 9>Walking through an airport or whatever, and there will be,

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 9>you know, a disgruntled Vikings fan and hey, you you

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 9>know you owe me, you know type of thing, or

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 9>it'll be a Packers fan that'll be like, thank you

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 9>for getting us in the playoffs that year, you know,

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 9>we owe you.

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 10>I was at home back in Minneapolis or watching that game,

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.320
<v Speaker 10>and I did not like Natepole because I thought I

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 10>had a chance to be the number one pick, and

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 10>I used to always mess with Nate.

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:39.760
<v Speaker 1>That's Minnesota native Larry Fitzgerald, not only a former Vikings

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>ball boy and their number one fan at the time,

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>but fitz might have been the number one pick overall

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL draft.

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 11>Me and Larry had that conversation. Believe me that he

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 11>would have been the number one overall pick. We're talking

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:57.879
<v Speaker 11>in the receiver room before the meeting about being him

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 11>being the number one pick. You know, I think back

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 11>to what his side of bonus was. He didn't do

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 11>too bad at the number three pick.

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 9>People said, well, y'all, you know you cost him the

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 9>number one pick, and I go back and go, you know,

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 9>I don't think Coach Green would have I think he

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.800
<v Speaker 9>would have picked Larry. He was gonna pick Larry, and

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 9>it turned out really good for Larry and and ultimately

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 9>for the arison the Cardinals too. He helped lead that franchise, Uh,

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 9>you know, through a lot of things to become a

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 9>you know, a competitive franchise and you know, to.

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Really what they are today.

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 5>Walking away from that with mixed emotions of Wow, what

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<v Speaker 5>a way to win a game, but also, oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 5>there goes the quarterback of the future. There goes he lied.

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<v Speaker 13>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals won the game, but lost the number one pick,

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<v Speaker 1>which ended up being Ole Miss quarterback Eli Manning. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>never know who knew head coach Danny Green would have

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<v Speaker 1>picked for the Cardinals, or do we. Larry Fitzgerald says

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<v Speaker 1>at number one, he still would have been the Cardinals selection.

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<v Speaker 10>Then he said, I would have been. That's what he

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<v Speaker 10>told me. He told me I would have been. But

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<v Speaker 10>you know, it all worked his way out. I was

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<v Speaker 10>able to still get here and play for him. I know,

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<v Speaker 10>we didn't have the success I'd love to have for him.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, he gave me my first two jobs I

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<v Speaker 10>ever had as a ball boy and then as a

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<v Speaker 10>professional athlete, and so I owe him a huge debt

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<v Speaker 10>of gratitude and I'm just so very thankful for you know,

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<v Speaker 10>the doors he open for me and my family.

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<v Speaker 6>Touchdown Cardinals, they pull.

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<v Speaker 5>The Cardinals win the game.

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<v Speaker 11>I brought my heart head to practice in the games

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<v Speaker 11>every day, and I knew, you know, that's what it

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<v Speaker 11>was about as growing up as a youngster, that it

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<v Speaker 11>was about, you know, bringing your hard hat and working

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<v Speaker 11>out and just pushing to make the team.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, coaches say run every route as if it's

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<v Speaker 5>your last. Well, Nate Pool really did it. But it

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<v Speaker 5>was like comical, like he went so hard, So pretty

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<v Speaker 5>cool to see a guy that worked that hard have

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<v Speaker 5>one of the biggest plays of the season, not just

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<v Speaker 5>for the Cardinals but for the entire league.

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<v Speaker 11>I got to tell people, hey, you can only do

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<v Speaker 11>it one play at a time. I got you on

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<v Speaker 11>that play, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Needless to say, it's the play in Nate Poole's career,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most dramatic and consequential plays in NFL history, the.

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<v Speaker 6>Cardinals have knocked the Fighting's out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 9>And Nay pulls a good person. He's a great person

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<v Speaker 9>to be around. And you look back at that and

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<v Speaker 9>that's a special moment for me in my career as well.

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<v Speaker 9>So but it couldn't happen to a better guy. And

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<v Speaker 9>they's good dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who says good dudes finished last?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, as Dave McGinnis said back then with a

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<v Speaker 1>smile to the media, quote, there were two receivers on

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<v Speaker 1>the field from Marshall that day. They had Randy Moss,

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<v Speaker 1>we had Nathan Poole. So there you have it. Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>Folktales Miracle in the Desert, presented by seventy two Souls

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<v Speaker 1>for producer jim O. Mahundro. I'm Paul Calvic and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the story of how an unknown receiver won that day,

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>but a Hall of fame receiver was on his way.

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<v Speaker 5>The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history

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<v Speaker 5>and one of the greatest receivers of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>With the third choice in the two thousand and four

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Larry Fitzgerald.

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<v Speaker 5>Wide receiver. University of Fichburn.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the Red Sea Cardinals fans at the official

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<v Speaker 1>draft party two thousand and four welcoming Larry Fitzgerald to

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<v Speaker 1>the valley. Why a departure from the climate a few

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<v Speaker 1>months earlier when many Cardinals fans viewed the win against

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings as a loss because the Cardinals lost out

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<v Speaker 1>on the number one pick overall and ostensibly a franchise quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>which eventually was Eli Manning as the top overall pick.

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<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't the only change in the NFL. A

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<v Speaker 1>few years after that, the force out rule would be eliminated,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the main examples cited was Nate Poole

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<v Speaker 1>who only had one foot down in the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>on that game winning playoff busting touchdown catch that eliminated

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings. When we come back, Darren urban would the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals have taken a quarterback number one overall? Would it

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<v Speaker 1>still have been Larry Fitzgerald. We'll get Darren's perspective when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back to this very special Cardinals Folktales edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Big Red Rage Miracle in the Desert presented

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<v Speaker 1>by santan Ford in Gilbert. And we're wrapping up this

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<v Speaker 1>very special Cardinals Folk Tales edition of the Big Red

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<v Speaker 1>Rage presented by Santan ford In Gilbert Paul Kelvicy joined

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<v Speaker 1>by Darren Irvan deren Ervan covered the game. Miracle in

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<v Speaker 1>the Desert is the title of this Cardinal's Folk Tales

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<v Speaker 1>where we're going to the archives in some great rarely

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 1>heard audio that are Jim Almahundro found both from the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Radio broadcast. Also some of the audio we

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<v Speaker 1>heard from Larry Fitzgerald and coach McGinnis Josh McCown all

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<v Speaker 1>talking about not only the end of the game, but

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<v Speaker 1>the start of a new era of Cardinals football in

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<v Speaker 1>so many different ways. In fact, let's start right there, Darren,

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<v Speaker 1>because what if what if the Cardinals had lost that game?

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<v Speaker 1>What if they had picked number one overall? Would they

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<v Speaker 1>still have picked Larry Fitzgerald or would they have gone

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<v Speaker 1>franchise quarterback?

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<v Speaker 8>You know if I think they end up taking Larry Fitzgerald,

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<v Speaker 8>because I think Denny Green wanted Larry Fitzgerald on his team.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I remember so vividly in the month leading

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<v Speaker 8>up to the draft. Denny he wasn't like a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of coaches there were oftentimes.

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 10>When he was.

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<v Speaker 8>He said more then maybe he should. And I remember

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<v Speaker 8>in those days, I was covering the team for the

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 8>East Valley Tribune. I had come out to a day

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<v Speaker 8>in the off season sometime in April, and I was

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<v Speaker 8>the only writer here and the only other media member

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 8>who was showing up was Brad Cessmett, who was working

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<v Speaker 8>for one of the local stations that day, and he

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<v Speaker 8>had an interview apparently scheduled with Danny Green. And all

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 8>they did was bring Denny Green down to the media

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<v Speaker 8>area and then they just had a camera and they

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 8>were sitting there and they're having it. So as a

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 8>media member, I'm going to listen to the interview and

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<v Speaker 8>take what I can get from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, nobody told you you couldn't.

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<v Speaker 8>So Denny Green is talking about and you have to

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<v Speaker 8>remember again the draft with Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning

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<v Speaker 8>and Philip Rivers. Those are all available with the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 8>picking third. And at this point the Cardinals quarterback was

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<v Speaker 8>Josh mccowum, probably, and there were questions about Josh and

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 8>whether he was gonna you know, and Denny loved Josh.

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 8>He would talk him up all the time. And at

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 8>one point Denny Green said, we're not going to take

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<v Speaker 8>a quarterback third overall. Well, as a reporter, I had

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<v Speaker 8>that in this day, this is pre internet, so I

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<v Speaker 8>had a big banner headline the next day. Obviously the

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 8>other paper in town didn't have the story. So the

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 8>next day I came back. There were other writers here.

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<v Speaker 8>Ken Summer showed up, Bob Bomb from the Associated Press,

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<v Speaker 8>and they get Denny Green to come down and talk,

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<v Speaker 8>and they're trying to get him to say the same

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 8>thing again and he won't do it. And finally Bob

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 8>Baum says to him, kind of half jokingly, we're trying

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<v Speaker 8>to get you to say what you told Darren yesterday.

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<v Speaker 8>And Denny looked at him and he goes, that was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 8>Today is today.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you though, that was back in the days.

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<v Speaker 1>And we just talked about this where a quarterback wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>always go number one, right, And we knew Denny's affinity

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<v Speaker 1>for Larry Fitzgerald, his former ball boy by the way

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota, so he knew Larry better than anyone and

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>fits as it came to be. Once he did get drafted,

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>he showed up in the Cardinals locker room and there

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.320
<v Speaker 1>was Nate Poole. Nate Poole heard it from Larry that

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:14.720
<v Speaker 1>he cost him the number one pick overall.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, And look, it's not like the Cardinals made

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 8>a poor pick by any stretch of the imagination. But

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 8>you do wonder a little bit what Okay, Eli Manning

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<v Speaker 8>went number one and then Robert Gallery went number two.

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<v Speaker 8>But you wonder a little bit if they didn't take

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<v Speaker 8>Fits and they take Ben Roethlisberger or they take Philip Rivers,

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<v Speaker 8>how different does life with the Cardinals? You know, happen?

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<v Speaker 11>Now?

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<v Speaker 8>The Cardinals make the two thousand and eight Super Bowl

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 8>because they get Kurt Warner, who has his career renaissance

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<v Speaker 8>throwing to Akwambolden and a very very good Larry Fitzgerald,

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 8>And the Cardinals don't make the super Bowl unless Larry

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<v Speaker 8>has arguably the greatest performed postseason performance of any wide

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 8>receiver ever.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and guess what, Kurt Warner doesn't end with the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals if Eli Manning doesn't end up with the Giants.

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<v Speaker 8>All so true. Although Eli wasn't drafted by the Giants,

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<v Speaker 8>he was drafted by the Chargers and they had to

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<v Speaker 8>make the trade for Philip Rivers. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>intrigue with that draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no doubt. Look, Nate Poole didn't have much

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<v Speaker 1>of a career after that. No always remembered for what

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:16.279
<v Speaker 1>he did for the Green Bay Packers. Got the all

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>expenses pay trip in January to Green Bay, gladly because

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>he got a key to the city and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>But they ended up changing the force out rule in

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<v Speaker 1>large part because of how that went down in the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone at Sun Devil Stadium.

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<v Speaker 8>I had no question that it was a force out play.

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<v Speaker 8>And now you have to get feet down and if

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<v Speaker 8>a guy pushes you out of bounds your eye, that

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<v Speaker 8>touchdown does not count in today's NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>So many memorable moments and memorable radio calls from that game.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the great historic moments in Cardinals history, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a pleasure reliving it, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Miracle in the Desert Cardinals Folktale special thanks to our

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