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Speaker 1: Here's Paul CALVICI.
Speaker 7: I'm ready.
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready.
Speaker 8: And Darren Urban, I'll bolt.
Speaker 1: This Urban kid fre You know, as much as I
Speaker 1: despised Shakespeare in college as an English undergrad, I love
Speaker 1: a good Shakespearean tragedy in football, especially when it happens
Speaker 1: to the opponent. And that is why we are gathered
Speaker 1: here today for this very special Cardinals Folktales edition of
Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford in Gilbert
Speaker 1: Miracle in the Desert. That is the title of tonight's episode,
Speaker 1: as we hit the rewind button and go back into
Speaker 1: Cardinals history, all time anecdotes, as we like to say,
Speaker 1: Cardinals folktales where you can't spell the word history without
Speaker 1: the word story. Paul Calvic here, Darren Urban was there
Speaker 1: covered the game back in two thousand and three. This
Speaker 1: is the rare game, Darren, where it was best remembered
Speaker 1: for what both teams did not get. The Vikings do
Speaker 1: not get a playoff Berth, the Cardinals did not get
Speaker 1: the first pick in the draft. Talking about this season
Speaker 1: and Alley two thousand and three.
Speaker 8: This is true. I hadn't really thought about it that
Speaker 8: but but you know you, going negative doesn't really surprise
Speaker 8: me that much, Paul.
Speaker 1: Look, the real winner was a team that wasn't in
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 8: Yes, that's true that Green Bay Packers got through the
Speaker 8: playoffs because of that result, and they they did feel
Speaker 8: like winners that day. And Nate Poole can attest to
Speaker 8: that because he ended up in Green Bay a week
Speaker 8: later at the playoff game.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's by far the highlight of Nate Poole's career. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're gonna learn. In fact, you tell us since you
Speaker 1: where were you, by the way, for Nate Pool's shining moment?
Speaker 1: Were you still in the press.
Speaker 8: Pot those in those days, all the reporters would gather
Speaker 8: in the corner of the end zone, and we were
Speaker 8: down on the end of the field that the Cardinals
Speaker 8: scored upon. We were just on the other side. So
Speaker 8: we were down there in the between the back line,
Speaker 8: the back of the goal line, in about the ten
Speaker 8: yard line, watching this unfold. Couldn't see exactly because it
Speaker 8: was on the far sideline the catch, but you could
Speaker 8: hear the crowd explode. I was down there when you know,
Speaker 8: Josh McCown was pleading to the official to give them
Speaker 8: the call when they were going to the replay. I
Speaker 8: remember that very distinctly because we were on the field
Speaker 8: by then and it was just it was an amazing
Speaker 8: end to what turned out to be Dave McGinnis's career
Speaker 8: as the head coach, and obviously it was a springboard
Speaker 8: to them getting Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of change after this game.
Speaker 1: Going into the game, though, I mean, what were the
Speaker 1: odds the Cardinals had a chance to really win a
Speaker 1: game when they hadn't won a game in nearly two months,
Speaker 1: and the Vikings needed the game to clinch a playoff spot.
Speaker 8: Well, the funny thing is is, not only did anybody
Speaker 8: think the Cardinals really had a chance, but even if
Speaker 8: they lost, it didn't look real good for them to
Speaker 8: get the number one overall pick. They needed a couple
Speaker 8: of bad teams to win, and it ended up working
Speaker 8: out that way if they had had lost. But then again,
Speaker 8: you know, the vice Kings came in. I'm guessing they
Speaker 8: were a little overconfident. I don't know. I remember watching
Speaker 8: the game from the press box thinking to myself, they
Speaker 8: don't look like they're ready to put this team away.
Speaker 8: The Vikings don't look like they're ready to put the
Speaker 8: Cardinals away. And those Cardinal teams were not good, but
Speaker 8: they did give effort. And you had a lot of
Speaker 8: guys out there playing for the first time or very
Speaker 8: inexperienced Josh McCown, Reggie Wells. I mean, you go down
Speaker 8: the list, and they just didn't give up. Now, they
Speaker 8: needed some bounces there at the end, for sure, but
Speaker 8: the fact they were even in shouting distance of the
Speaker 8: game never should have happened.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna get a full recap here because it
Speaker 1: really is gripping. I mean, the first three quarters of
Speaker 1: the game not so much, but it was seventeen to
Speaker 1: six Vikings with under seven minutes to play. Then just
Speaker 1: after the two minute warning it's a one score game.
Speaker 1: You need the on sidekick Neil Rackers, right, he was
Speaker 1: a master at making the ball do different things. He
Speaker 1: had that soccer background, and then things just got really
Speaker 1: crazy from there. I mean, with all due respect to
Speaker 1: a young Dave Pash behind the mic, it's the rare
Speaker 1: game where the truly memorable radio calls came from a
Speaker 1: the losing team and be the team that really benefited
Speaker 1: two time zones away who needed a Cardinals win more
Speaker 1: than the Cardinals did.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's definitely some memorable calls. With all due respect
Speaker 8: to Dave, I don't know if he ranks in the
Speaker 8: top two there, but it was an amazing time all
Speaker 8: the way around, just because of how it ended and
Speaker 8: what it meant and just the memories of that game
Speaker 8: and for Josh mccount and aatepool.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna hear how it all unfolded in real
Speaker 1: time at the time two thousand and three. Heck, it
Speaker 1: was a holiday season and the Cardinals rock team Santa Colors, right, red,
Speaker 1: white and black. So this was their own gift, their
Speaker 1: own parting gift to the home fans. And when we
Speaker 1: come back and this very special Cardinals Folk Tales edition
Speaker 1: of the Big Red Rage, we'll hear it for ourselves,
Speaker 1: Miracle in the Desert presented by santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 1: And welcome back into our special Cardinals Folk Tales edition
Speaker 1: of The Big Red Rage, resented by Santanford in Gilbert.
Speaker 1: We're hit in rewind into Cardinals history because remember, you
Speaker 1: can't spell the word history without the word story, and
Speaker 1: boy do we have one. From the final week of
Speaker 1: the regular season two thousand and three, Cardinals were hosting
Speaker 1: the Vikings and the Cardinals had exactly nothing to play
Speaker 1: for beyond the number one pick, which they would secure
Speaker 1: with a loss. The ninety six Vikings came in. Remember
Speaker 1: they had started six and oh that season, but their
Speaker 1: playoff hopes were on the line. They needed a win
Speaker 1: to secure a postseason berth and the week before they
Speaker 1: had already KOed KC forty five to twenty. That was
Speaker 1: a Kansas City team that went thirteen and three in
Speaker 1: two thousand and three. So with that in mind, not
Speaker 1: many gave the Cardinals a chance. But as quarterback of
Speaker 1: the time, Josh McCown would say, later, Hey, you've been
Speaker 1: around coach McGuinness. He can make any game feel like
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And that would be foreshadowing because coach McGinnis,
Speaker 1: who was great with the medium, also had a great
Speaker 1: comparison between the two receivers on the field that day
Speaker 1: who were college teammates once upon a time at Marshall.
Speaker 1: We'll hear that a little bit later, but the Cardinals
Speaker 1: were talking about Nate Poole thirty six career games in
Speaker 1: the NFL. He managed a total of thirty four career
Speaker 1: catches and two touchdowns, but at the end of his
Speaker 1: brief time in the NFL, only one of those thirty
Speaker 1: four receptions truly mattered. It got him a key to
Speaker 1: a city, It got him a personalized phone call from
Speaker 1: a mayor. It got him a local TV commercial all
Speaker 1: in the city of Green Bay. So with that as
Speaker 1: the background, let's hit that rewind button to Miracle in
Speaker 1: the Desert. It's the final week of two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: this season finale that would end the year for two teams.
Speaker 5: The count throwing far side into the end zone and
Speaker 5: the ball.
Speaker 6: Is touchdown Turtinals.
Speaker 7: An unbelievable turn of events. Not here at lambeau Field,
Speaker 7: but in the desert, you would.
Speaker 3: Have thought we won Super Bowl. I mean, it was
Speaker 3: an unbelievable moment.
Speaker 6: The Vikings are going home for the new year.
Speaker 2: You just don't lose like that. Nobody loses like that,
Speaker 2: Let alone to Nathan Poole.
Speaker 9: And they pulls a good person to make that play.
Speaker 9: He deserves it.
Speaker 1: Not one other Minnesota Vikings are even moving right now.
Speaker 10: You lose a game and it opens the door for
Speaker 10: your worst enemy.
Speaker 7: The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're going to
Speaker 7: be host of the game.
Speaker 10: It was as if the sun fell out of the sky.
Speaker 10: You know, it was miserable day of existence.
Speaker 1: That time that two teams played one game, that stop
Speaker 1: time in three cities was a Cardinals receiver in or
Speaker 1: out of bounds? Were the Vikings and Packers in or
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs? Who would be drafting one, two,
Speaker 1: and three? All dictated by a Cardinals win that some
Speaker 1: viewed as a loss.
Speaker 5: I think we've ben The fans were like now, let's
Speaker 5: just get this season over and get the number one
Speaker 5: pick walk away with the Eli manning.
Speaker 9: There was something to play for there there. You know
Speaker 9: they're playing for something. We can be playing for something too.
Speaker 11: He got flushed out to the right. I said, oh,
Speaker 11: here he come, being to.
Speaker 7: The Angelic County.
Speaker 10: Knocked me out at number one pick too. Man, I've
Speaker 10: probably been the first pick of the draft. Man, they
Speaker 10: cost me, Nate poll Man. I'd never forgive him for that.
Speaker 10: I tell them that all the time.
Speaker 7: Nathan Paul may become a household.
Speaker 6: Name in Green Bay.
Speaker 11: This is Mayle Schmidt. I love to get you out
Speaker 11: to one of the games. I said, oh no, I
Speaker 11: would love to come out.
Speaker 2: He was given a key to the city of Green
Speaker 2: Bay and he got to go to their playoff game.
Speaker 12: I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to
Speaker 12: go out in Green Bay if that is his desire.
Speaker 12: He will have a lot of people who will take
Speaker 12: good care of him.
Speaker 1: To the winner goes the Spoils. That's after the Cardinals
Speaker 1: took care of the Vikings. All right, a big win,
Speaker 1: but the big winner the Packers welcome into Cardinals Folktales
Speaker 1: Miracle in the Desert presented by seventy two Souls, where
Speaker 1: we go in depth into Cardinals history, all time anecdotes
Speaker 1: through the recollections and memories of those who lived in
Speaker 1: or in my case, those who covered it. My name
Speaker 1: is Paul Kelvic, Cardinals sideline reporter. We're talking about that
Speaker 1: time when little known Nate Poole got the key to
Speaker 1: a city. While his own fan base lamented what it
Speaker 1: did not get.
Speaker 3: People said, well, y'all, you know you cost it the
Speaker 3: number one pick.
Speaker 5: The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinal's history
Speaker 5: and one of the greatest receivers of all time.
Speaker 3: Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings.
Speaker 12: Got down down.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't believe what just happened.
Speaker 6: The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: One of the great calls, one of the great thrill
Speaker 1: of victory, agony of defeat moments in NFL history, every
Speaker 1: bit as much Shakespearean tragedy as season finale. December twenty eighth,
Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Cardinals playing for the number one
Speaker 1: pick with a loss, the Vikings playing for the postseason
Speaker 1: with a win or a Packers loss. Yet none of
Speaker 1: the above happened. Here's former head coach Dave McGinnis and
Speaker 1: quarterback Josh McCown.
Speaker 5: We gotta win a game and we haven't won a
Speaker 5: game in seven weeks.
Speaker 1: I mean, we need to win a ballgame. You know,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people I know pulling.
Speaker 3: Obviously.
Speaker 9: Coach McGinnis was fantastic in front of the room. He
Speaker 9: was very captivating, and that was one of the things
Speaker 9: that he talked about was just the ability to knock
Speaker 9: those guys off. You know that they were coming in,
Speaker 9: they had to beat us, and you know they were
Speaker 9: going to get into the playoffs, and so there was
Speaker 9: something to play for there there. You know, it wasn't
Speaker 9: just a game where we're gonna roll the ball out
Speaker 9: there and get it over with and go home. He
Speaker 9: was like, man, this is they're playing for something. We
Speaker 9: can be playing for something too.
Speaker 1: In two thousand and three, it was a sixteen game season.
Speaker 1: Cardinals entered the final week three and twelve. The Vikings,
Speaker 1: after a six and oho start, were nine and six,
Speaker 1: coming off a ko of KC the week before a
Speaker 1: forty five to twenty drubbing of a Chiefs team that
Speaker 1: would finish thirteen and three. So all the Vikings had
Speaker 1: to do what everyone expected him to do, polish off
Speaker 1: a reeling Cardinals team with a quarterback making his third
Speaker 1: career start, a coach about to be fired, and the
Speaker 1: NFL's all time leading rusher getting peppered about his own
Speaker 1: future on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 13: I mean, who knows? We can play hypothetical all day?
Speaker 13: Is Maczia great? But if he's not here, people coming in,
Speaker 13: what their plans are, what their ideas, and what they thought.
Speaker 2: So I gotta win on all that.
Speaker 13: So you asking me to make up answer to something
Speaker 13: that I don't have all the information to, that's stupid.
Speaker 13: I'm not that stupid.
Speaker 5: Yeah, please, somebody changing.
Speaker 1: Something to please?
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 13: How about the spirit of Jollyness and happiness.
Speaker 1: That's former Cardinals running back and Hall of Famer Emmitt Smith,
Speaker 1: And hey, no doubt what would make the Red Sea
Speaker 1: jolly and happy? The number one overall pick under their tree.
Speaker 1: Here's the voice of the Cardinals, Dave Pash was in
Speaker 1: his second season three.
Speaker 5: And you endure that long of a season and you're
Speaker 5: calling games for a team that's losing a lot of games.
Speaker 5: The one thing is, okay, you got a chance to
Speaker 5: get a franchise changing quarterback. Let's just get through this
Speaker 5: and get to that draft. Get your guy, enjoy the
Speaker 5: next ten years and a couple of Super Bowls that
Speaker 5: whole year.
Speaker 9: You grow up fast in this business and you go, wait,
Speaker 9: they're gonna fire these coaches. Wait a minute, they could
Speaker 9: draft a new quarterback, like, you know, I was just
Speaker 9: a quarterback of the future two days ago.
Speaker 3: That You know, all these things, you grow really fast.
Speaker 1: That's Cardinals could be Josh McCown, the third round pick
Speaker 1: the year before, who earned the final three starts of
Speaker 1: that O three season and tried to channel the confidence
Speaker 1: that his head coach Dave McGinnis showed in him against
Speaker 1: NFC North leading Minnesota.
Speaker 9: I think when you look at their roster U when
Speaker 9: they're coming out to us with everything to play for,
Speaker 9: I think it was a tall task. Uh So looking
Speaker 9: at that going yeah, we're gonna beat the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 9: You know, realistically, I don't know if that was you know,
Speaker 9: if that was an easy sale for coach, but he
Speaker 9: did a good job of framing that for us. And
Speaker 9: and and I think he was, you know, benefited from
Speaker 9: a young quarterback who didn't know any better and just
Speaker 9: was gonna go out and play the game.
Speaker 5: It's the Cardinals and Vikings from Tempe Arizona Sun Devil Stadium.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of action for the announcers to call
Speaker 1: in a fifty one degree day, a virtual snooze fest
Speaker 1: six ze at halftime, seven to six entering the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter when Randy Moss scores on a seven yard pass.
Speaker 5: A lot closer than many thought it would be, especially
Speaker 5: with a playoff spot on the line of the Vikings win,
Speaker 5: they clinched their division. If they lose and Green Bay wins,
Speaker 5: they're out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Then, just over two minutes later, a forty six yard
Speaker 1: fuel goal makes it seventeen to six Vikings with six
Speaker 1: forty eight to play, but hang on. On the first
Speaker 1: play after the two minute warning.
Speaker 5: Mccount takes play, bank rolls to his right, mccount in trouble, flushdown,
Speaker 5: throws end zone and going down to make the catch
Speaker 5: for a touchdown of Steve Bush. Steve Bush with a
Speaker 5: touchdown catch. Great improv job by Josh McCown.
Speaker 1: A fourteen play touchdown drive bought. The two point conversion failed,
Speaker 1: so at seventeen to twelve Vikings, a score echoed on
Speaker 1: the Packers broadcast.
Speaker 7: Game Minnesota leading seventeen to twelve. Remember, the only way
Speaker 7: the Packers can make the playoffs now is if Minnesota
Speaker 7: loses this football game somehow, some way.
Speaker 1: That's the radio call at Lambell, Wayne Larrvie and Larry
Speaker 1: McCarron paying close attention nearly two thousand miles away in
Speaker 1: Green Bay, Cardinals are.
Speaker 5: Going to try to recover an onside kick to perhaps
Speaker 5: give us a little bit more time to broadcast.
Speaker 14: Luckily, that day I wasn't demolition, I was recovery. And
Speaker 14: you know, Josh Kobe and company went in there, you know,
Speaker 14: blasting guys and right place, right time.
Speaker 1: That's former Cardinals running back Damien Anderson. And that's the recipe,
Speaker 1: the mentality for a successful onside kick, because that's exactly
Speaker 1: what the Cardinals needed. Good news, the Cards are just
Speaker 1: picked up one of the best in the business in
Speaker 1: Neil Rackers.
Speaker 5: So on fifty four to play. Neil Rackers is very
Speaker 5: good on side kick.
Speaker 9: We were all standing there, you know, waiting him because
Speaker 9: that was we knew that that was the next piece.
Speaker 9: You know, you had to get that to keep the
Speaker 9: ball game going. And you know, Neil hits a perfect ball,
Speaker 9: and I mean it was just how you drew it up,
Speaker 9: you know. And Damien comes up with it.
Speaker 5: Rackers are the on side kick far aside and it
Speaker 5: bounce us in the air. Hey, the Cardinals have it.
Speaker 1: Of the forty two.
Speaker 5: Davian Anderson comes up with it on the re direction
Speaker 5: and the Cards have a chance. With one fifty four
Speaker 5: to play.
Speaker 7: The Arizona Cardinals tried an onside kick and Larry Loan
Speaker 7: tohold they recovered it with a minute fifty four to
Speaker 7: go in that football game in the desert and the
Speaker 7: Vikings leading seventeen to twelve.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm going to shut up about this last game.
Speaker 14: Stuff done.
Speaker 7: Maybe they don't have a miracle. Keep talking about it.
Speaker 7: You may be jinxing us into something good here.
Speaker 8: Maybe that miracle can't happen.
Speaker 2: You get to that on side kick, and now all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, all bets are off. I mean, anything
Speaker 2: can happen against anybody anytime, and as we know, it did.
Speaker 1: That's longtime voice of the Vikings Paul Out. More from
Speaker 1: him later, much more soul Cardinals had the ball back
Speaker 1: one fifty four left sixty one yards to go, needing
Speaker 1: a touchdown. With one time out. After a thirty yard
Speaker 1: pass interference and a thirteen yard completion in Nate Pool,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals reached the Minnesota nine with thirty nine seconds
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 7: I meanwhile out in the desert in Arizona, getting a
Speaker 7: little bit closer.
Speaker 8: You know people are aware of this because you could
Speaker 8: hear a thousand in the crowd.
Speaker 1: There is definitely everyone is out of their seats in
Speaker 1: three different states. When Josh McCown is put on his seat,
Speaker 1: two straight plays quit drop of McCown looking.
Speaker 5: Left, hump back, and a pound sacked back at the
Speaker 5: seventeen yyline. McCown flushed out running near side, lost the ball,
Speaker 5: it's loose, and the Cardinals able the pound sign up
Speaker 5: of the twenty eight.
Speaker 9: Himmitt has a presence of mind to go, Josh, get up,
Speaker 9: get up. We gotta get the ball. Snap we got well,
Speaker 9: Tom House, we gotta go. So we get to play
Speaker 9: call and then you know, and then we you know,
Speaker 9: fortunately get the bolls.
Speaker 14: You knew that was josh skill set, Like call a
Speaker 14: play that works for him, you know, get him out,
Speaker 14: you know, get him out in some space so he'll
Speaker 14: have a multitude of options.
Speaker 5: The clock running down under fifteen seconds left. It's fourth
Speaker 5: down at twenty four and it's.
Speaker 12: Gonna come down to this.
Speaker 5: They gotta throw it into.
Speaker 12: The end zone. This is it.
Speaker 1: Fourth down, fourth and twenty five from the twenty eight.
Speaker 1: The Packers and Vikings playoff hopes hanging in the balance
Speaker 1: once again. Voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen.
Speaker 2: There was worry and anxiety and teeth gnashing every step
Speaker 2: of the way.
Speaker 1: Hey Green Bay, you still watching, you bet you?
Speaker 7: And they're winding it down in Arizona. This is the
Speaker 7: last gas, fourth and twenty four, back outside the twenty five.
Speaker 5: And here we go eight seconds seven six five four.
Speaker 7: The count of the ball.
Speaker 5: This will be the last play. The count steps up,
Speaker 5: rolling far side.
Speaker 8: Just so happened.
Speaker 11: He got flushed, He got flushed out to the right.
Speaker 11: I said, oh, here he come, the.
Speaker 5: Count throwing far side into the end zone and the
Speaker 5: ball is pup, touchdown.
Speaker 12: Cardinal's Nate Poll and.
Speaker 6: The Cardinals win the game on the final pool and
Speaker 6: the thin Kiggers.
Speaker 1: Are going home for the new year.
Speaker 11: Josh Man, you know the whole time he's running, he's rolling,
Speaker 11: he's pointing to the right. I'm inside, I know he's
Speaker 11: about to throw it over there and the defender he
Speaker 11: had no clue. He had no clue.
Speaker 1: What a great throw by Josh McCown.
Speaker 5: He threw it up rolling Nate Poole could.
Speaker 10: Get it, and he did it.
Speaker 9: I felt like it was just there was a connection
Speaker 9: for us, you know, and so boom there is and
Speaker 9: then the ball came out, uh and he makes an
Speaker 9: unbelievable cash.
Speaker 6: The Cardinals winning on the final play.
Speaker 5: Josh mccount fin's made pool in the back of the
Speaker 5: end zone of the far side.
Speaker 9: You would have thought we won a super Bowl. And
Speaker 9: I mean, it was an unbelievable moment, and and it
Speaker 9: meant a lot.
Speaker 1: To those guys out, but it meant even more to
Speaker 1: Nate Poole, the guy who had been cut four times
Speaker 1: and then he cut loose against the visiting Vikings fans
Speaker 1: who had populated and dominated Sun Devil Stadium trash talk
Speaker 1: in three two one take lso.
Speaker 11: Don't come back deal and next to y'alling the same thing.
Speaker 1: Nate Poole the living embodiment of the ups and downs
Speaker 1: of an NFL game. He was something fired up while
Speaker 1: those Viking fans could have been more let down. Remember
Speaker 1: Nate Poole was a player who was always in proven mode,
Speaker 1: always existing on the edge of the roster, so he
Speaker 1: played with an edge. We heard it right there, and
Speaker 1: it's amazing when you look back, how that one catch,
Speaker 1: that one toe tapping catch that proved to be a
Speaker 1: game winner, How it set off a domino effect, a
Speaker 1: whole litany of changes that all altered the history of
Speaker 1: not only the Cardinals, but basically all the teams atop
Speaker 1: that two thousand and four draft franchise quarterbacks going two
Speaker 1: different teams, the Cardinals getting themselves a Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: as well, who might have gone number one overall off
Speaker 1: the Cardinals were in that position, but they weren't. And
Speaker 1: the changes even extended to the rule book years later.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that when we come back. And don't
Speaker 1: forget Nate Pool was not just a celebrity in Arizona.
Speaker 1: He was the toast of the town in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: And we'll relive all that when we come back to
Speaker 1: this very special Cardinals Folktales edition of the Big Red
Speaker 1: Rage Miracle in the Desert, presented by santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 1: It's our special Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big Red
Speaker 1: Rage presented by a Santan Ford in Gilbert. This is
Speaker 1: where we go into Cardinals history, go into the archives.
Speaker 1: Can't spell the word history without the word story. And
Speaker 1: we're talking about the final game of the two thousand
Speaker 1: and three season. My name is Paul Calvi.
Speaker 3: Seen.
Speaker 1: We started by saying, remember that one time, that one
Speaker 1: game played by two teams in two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: that stop time in three different NFL cities. Remember Nate Poole,
Speaker 1: Cardinals receiver, and was the in or out of bounds?
Speaker 1: We pose that question, Well, he was most definitely inbounds,
Speaker 1: and the Vikings were most definitely out of the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals were out of the top pick in
Speaker 1: the draft. We'll get to that, but remember when it
Speaker 1: comes to the Vikings, you're talking about a team that
Speaker 1: not only started six to zero and was on the
Speaker 1: verge of the playoffs, but that season, the four worst
Speaker 1: teams in the league were the Giants, the Raiders, the Chargers,
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals. Each team finished four and twelve. Each
Speaker 1: one of those teams beat the Vikings, So you can
Speaker 1: imagine the on the Minnesota side. In fact, their radio announcer,
Speaker 1: the voice of the Vikings Paul Allen became a meme
Speaker 1: before there even were memes in social media, and that's
Speaker 1: where we rejoined this edition of Cardinals Folktales Miracle in
Speaker 1: the Desert, and former Cardinals quarterback Josh McCown two years
Speaker 1: later had empathy for the Vikings.
Speaker 9: Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings because
Speaker 9: they were right there on the cusp and to lose.
Speaker 3: That way, man, that's bitter.
Speaker 1: Nate Poole's game winning, playoff busting, last second, fourth down
Speaker 1: touchdown catch was one of his two two career touchdowns,
Speaker 1: leaving the Vikings on the outside of the playoff picture
Speaker 1: looking in as radio voice Paul Allen and company were
Speaker 1: left in a state of utter disbelief.
Speaker 2: People were just staring longingly on the team bust to
Speaker 2: the airport. Nobody knew what to say, and they were
Speaker 2: just down trodden.
Speaker 5: And you just don't lose like that.
Speaker 2: Nobody loses like that, let alone to Nathan Poole, not
Speaker 2: ang Kwam Bolden. So I mean, now as we connect
Speaker 2: the dots, you know, of the entire thing over twenty years,
Speaker 2: it hits me so vividly because of how emotional it
Speaker 2: was at that moment.
Speaker 6: The season's on the line, two receivers left and right.
Speaker 6: McCown takes the snap.
Speaker 1: He steps up, he's all by himself.
Speaker 6: Fires into the end zone.
Speaker 12: DoD dods down.
Speaker 6: No, no, the Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of
Speaker 6: the playoffs.
Speaker 2: The previous owner of the team, Red McCombs, hated that call.
Speaker 2: He didn't let me know, but he let others know.
Speaker 2: Some vice presidents here, so you know, I had some
Speaker 2: conversations with some vice presidents and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: you don't script moments like that, and that's what came out.
Speaker 2: So I had to deal with that very young in
Speaker 2: my career.
Speaker 5: I understand we're Paul's coming from. You get invested in
Speaker 5: the team. It's your team, and I thought Paul handled
Speaker 5: it perfectly. Some people might say, uh, it's not professional,
Speaker 5: but that's how the fans feeling.
Speaker 3: No, are you kidding?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 5: That was Paul's reaction.
Speaker 2: One thing I remember about the call is I looked
Speaker 2: to my left where the coaches were, and our linebackers
Speaker 2: coach at that time, he bursage. He could hear me
Speaker 2: through the glass yelling no, no, no, no, And then
Speaker 2: I came down. The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out
Speaker 2: of the playoffs.
Speaker 6: The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs.
Speaker 2: The way he looked at me, it was not anger
Speaker 2: at me. It was one of two things. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I can't believe what just happened. Oh my god, that
Speaker 2: check that I was going to get for a playoff bonus,
Speaker 2: it just went up into the tenpiece.
Speaker 1: Guy from Minnesota fans saying you sunk my Viking ship.
Speaker 1: Just the sheer agony of it all to the utter
Speaker 1: ecstasy of cheesehead nation listening on the Packers radio network.
Speaker 15: And here we go.
Speaker 7: This is if the season for the Packers. On the
Speaker 7: line into the end zone, the count pack Hey got
Speaker 7: hat cutting down?
Speaker 6: It is autun on Packers by label.
Speaker 1: The complete bedlook from Wayne Larity and Larry McCarron reacting
Speaker 1: to a game they're not even calling, just watching from
Speaker 1: two thousand miles away.
Speaker 7: Patters the biggestmericon on the Packers. Sadly, any reps Packers,
Speaker 7: They finally realizes, any reps. I'm a final playoff.
Speaker 6: The regular season for the fight Kings pay.
Speaker 7: Lose eighteen to seventeen. The Packers not only make the playoffs,
Speaker 7: they're gonna be host of the game.
Speaker 1: True Brett Farvan. The Packers would host the Seahawks at
Speaker 1: lambeaut to open the playoffs. Later, Dave mcginni shared with
Speaker 1: the media that Packers coach Mike Sherman and GM Mark
Speaker 1: Hadley called him and said, quote, you're a bleeping king
Speaker 1: here in Green Bay. The thing is back in Tempee,
Speaker 1: speaking of coach mac different emotions, a different reality started
Speaker 1: to set in as the Cardinals locker room grew quiet,
Speaker 1: almost somber.
Speaker 16: For all that we've been through, we never quit on
Speaker 16: each other. It was a constant, constant reminder of what
Speaker 16: character I've got in this room.
Speaker 1: I've never been afraid to tell you that I love you.
Speaker 9: It was somber, and it's very soberinging. You're just like, man,
Speaker 9: back to reality. This is what we're faced with. And
Speaker 9: he was genuine with his words, and you know, and
Speaker 9: how I caried about guys, and so I think he
Speaker 9: understood in that moment that that was probably, you know,
Speaker 9: the last time or one of the last times he
Speaker 9: was going to address us as a group.
Speaker 17: I've never been afraid to open myself to you because
Speaker 17: you've got my heart. You've got my heart, You know.
Speaker 9: It's a roller coaster, really, because you were just as
Speaker 9: high as it gets. You know, for fifteen twenty minutes,
Speaker 9: they're celebrating and enjoying one another, and then you know,
Speaker 9: the business sets in.
Speaker 15: When Nate Poole gave me this ball that he caught.
Speaker 15: What did I tell you last night? I cut this
Speaker 15: man four times. I cut him four times, and every
Speaker 15: time I did, he stood up in my office and
Speaker 15: hugged me and said, Mike, if you need me, I'll
Speaker 15: be back because you're the only man I want to
Speaker 15: play for.
Speaker 1: And that's the way I know that all of you
Speaker 1: feel right now.
Speaker 11: It was real motion on It was like you know,
Speaker 11: your last family hug, you know, and you know, and
Speaker 11: it hurt because we know, you know, he's a player's
Speaker 11: coach and he loved the players. He want the players
Speaker 11: to do, you know, to excel, to be really great.
Speaker 1: You know what I feel for you, You know what
Speaker 1: I feel for you.
Speaker 17: This was a tremendous, tremendous demonstration of men that not
Speaker 17: only love each other, but believe, believe, believe.
Speaker 11: You know, most of us felt like we let Dave
Speaker 11: down because you know, we didn't come up on the
Speaker 11: winning side. Of a lot of these games to keep
Speaker 11: him around.
Speaker 3: I'll never ever give up on you.
Speaker 7: I love you.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 1: On the very next day, with a feign twelfth season
Speaker 1: in the books, Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis was indeed fired.
Speaker 1: Vikings head coach Mike Tye survived despite the Vikings collapse
Speaker 1: after that six and oh start. As for the Packers,
Speaker 1: the party was just starting and Nate Poole's celebrity was growing.
Speaker 7: Nathan Pole of all people hop about that Nathan Cole
Speaker 7: may become a household name in Green Bay.
Speaker 2: It was an amazing play. But you know, like I
Speaker 2: say about Nathan, and I'm not being disparaging here, but
Speaker 2: that was his fifteen minutes of fame. And then of
Speaker 2: course the next week he was given a key to
Speaker 2: the city of Green Bay and he got to go
Speaker 2: to their playoff game, and that is accurate. Nate Poole,
Speaker 2: who going into the season finale had eight catches all
Speaker 2: season and no touchdowns, was now Packers royalty, to the
Speaker 2: point where he got a call from the mayor of
Speaker 2: Green Bay.
Speaker 11: So Mayor Schmitz gave me a call and I was like, oh,
Speaker 11: here we go. Stop calling my phone. Because I'm thinking
Speaker 11: it's a player, and I'm thinking he's gonna call that
Speaker 11: player's gonna call me back and say, man, dude, what
Speaker 11: are you doing? Then I got a call right back.
Speaker 11: It was the same number, and I'm like, okay, hey,
Speaker 11: how you doing this in April? And he was like, Hey, Nate, no,
Speaker 11: this is not a joke. This is Mayor Schmidt. I
Speaker 11: love to get you out in a speed talking I
Speaker 11: love to get you out to one of the games.
Speaker 11: I said, oh no, I would love to come out.
Speaker 1: And that's not the only call he got that week.
Speaker 1: On the Big Red Rage radio show with host Dave Pash,
Speaker 1: a Packers fan dialed in from the Midwest line too.
Speaker 5: Dave, Mary Joe, Mary Joe, Welcome to the Big Red Rage.
Speaker 12: Go ahead, Hey guys, thanks a lot. I was just
Speaker 12: calling to wish Nate a wonderful time in Green Bay
Speaker 12: and to give him a huge thank you. Since the
Speaker 12: Vikings started off six and oh this year, I've been
Speaker 12: taking a lot of grief or getting a lot of
Speaker 12: grief from my friends who are Viking fans, and I
Speaker 12: would roll my eyes and just say, oh, you know,
Speaker 12: won't you ever learn the Vikings will find some way
Speaker 12: to implode again this year and sweet revenge. It has
Speaker 12: been a wonderful couple of days and I just want
Speaker 12: to offer a great bitch thank you.
Speaker 5: Hey, Mary Joe, how about taking date out to dinner
Speaker 5: when he gets up there.
Speaker 12: I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to
Speaker 12: go out in Green Bay if that is his desire.
Speaker 12: He will have a lot of people who will take
Speaker 12: good care of him.
Speaker 1: Nate Poole laughed all the way to Green Bay, an
Speaker 1: all expense paid trip in January on the tax Beyer's
Speaker 1: tap as the undrafted receiver from Marshall became a grand
Speaker 1: Marshal of sorts. But don't forget about the other end
Speaker 1: of that touchdown pass QB. Josh McCown.
Speaker 9: You know, they flying Nate up to Green Bay and
Speaker 9: they give him a Kidah City or whatever they did,
Speaker 9: and they're sending us.
Speaker 3: We were getting Christmas.
Speaker 9: Cards from Green Bay fans that it was their family
Speaker 9: Christmas card and you know it, you know, scratched out.
Speaker 3: Merry Christmas and thank you for beating the vikings.
Speaker 9: Go Pat go, and loads of Christmas cards mail to
Speaker 9: the house of the Sargento family sent the best cheese
Speaker 9: basket you've ever seen in your life.
Speaker 1: That was two thousand three. But even to this day,
Speaker 1: when he's out and about, Josh McCown gets reaction for
Speaker 1: both school Nation and America's dairy Land.
Speaker 9: Walking through an airport or whatever, and there will be,
Speaker 9: you know, a disgruntled Vikings fan and hey, you you
Speaker 9: know you owe me, you know type of thing, or
Speaker 9: it'll be a Packers fan that'll be like, thank you
Speaker 9: for getting us in the playoffs that year, you know,
Speaker 9: we owe you.
Speaker 10: I was at home back in Minneapolis or watching that game,
Speaker 10: and I did not like Natepole because I thought I
Speaker 10: had a chance to be the number one pick, and
Speaker 10: I used to always mess with Nate.
Speaker 1: That's Minnesota native Larry Fitzgerald, not only a former Vikings
Speaker 1: ball boy and their number one fan at the time,
Speaker 1: but fitz might have been the number one pick overall
Speaker 1: in the NFL draft.
Speaker 11: Me and Larry had that conversation. Believe me that he
Speaker 11: would have been the number one overall pick. We're talking
Speaker 11: in the receiver room before the meeting about being him
Speaker 11: being the number one pick. You know, I think back
Speaker 11: to what his side of bonus was. He didn't do
Speaker 11: too bad at the number three pick.
Speaker 9: People said, well, y'all, you know you cost him the
Speaker 9: number one pick, and I go back and go, you know,
Speaker 9: I don't think Coach Green would have I think he
Speaker 9: would have picked Larry. He was gonna pick Larry, and
Speaker 9: it turned out really good for Larry and and ultimately
Speaker 9: for the arison the Cardinals too. He helped lead that franchise, Uh,
Speaker 9: you know, through a lot of things to become a
Speaker 9: you know, a competitive franchise and you know, to.
Speaker 3: Really what they are today.
Speaker 5: Walking away from that with mixed emotions of Wow, what
Speaker 5: a way to win a game, but also, oh my goodness,
Speaker 5: there goes the quarterback of the future. There goes he lied.
Speaker 13: Yep.
Speaker 1: Cardinals won the game, but lost the number one pick,
Speaker 1: which ended up being Ole Miss quarterback Eli Manning. We'll
Speaker 1: never know who knew head coach Danny Green would have
Speaker 1: picked for the Cardinals, or do we. Larry Fitzgerald says
Speaker 1: at number one, he still would have been the Cardinals selection.
Speaker 10: Then he said, I would have been. That's what he
Speaker 10: told me. He told me I would have been. But
Speaker 10: you know, it all worked his way out. I was
Speaker 10: able to still get here and play for him. I know,
Speaker 10: we didn't have the success I'd love to have for him.
Speaker 10: You know, he gave me my first two jobs I
Speaker 10: ever had as a ball boy and then as a
Speaker 10: professional athlete, and so I owe him a huge debt
Speaker 10: of gratitude and I'm just so very thankful for you know,
Speaker 10: the doors he open for me and my family.
Speaker 6: Touchdown Cardinals, they pull.
Speaker 5: The Cardinals win the game.
Speaker 11: I brought my heart head to practice in the games
Speaker 11: every day, and I knew, you know, that's what it
Speaker 11: was about as growing up as a youngster, that it
Speaker 11: was about, you know, bringing your hard hat and working
Speaker 11: out and just pushing to make the team.
Speaker 5: You know, coaches say run every route as if it's
Speaker 5: your last. Well, Nate Pool really did it. But it
Speaker 5: was like comical, like he went so hard, So pretty
Speaker 5: cool to see a guy that worked that hard have
Speaker 5: one of the biggest plays of the season, not just
Speaker 5: for the Cardinals but for the entire league.
Speaker 11: I got to tell people, hey, you can only do
Speaker 11: it one play at a time. I got you on
Speaker 11: that play, and.
Speaker 1: Needless to say, it's the play in Nate Poole's career,
Speaker 1: one of the most dramatic and consequential plays in NFL history, the.
Speaker 6: Cardinals have knocked the Fighting's out of the playoffs.
Speaker 9: And Nay pulls a good person. He's a great person
Speaker 9: to be around. And you look back at that and
Speaker 9: that's a special moment for me in my career as well.
Speaker 9: So but it couldn't happen to a better guy. And
Speaker 9: they's good dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who says good dudes finished last?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 1: In fact, as Dave McGinnis said back then with a
Speaker 1: smile to the media, quote, there were two receivers on
Speaker 1: the field from Marshall that day. They had Randy Moss,
Speaker 1: we had Nathan Poole. So there you have it. Cardinals
Speaker 1: Folktales Miracle in the Desert, presented by seventy two Souls
Speaker 1: for producer jim O. Mahundro. I'm Paul Calvic and that's
Speaker 1: the story of how an unknown receiver won that day,
Speaker 1: but a Hall of fame receiver was on his way.
Speaker 5: The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history
Speaker 5: and one of the greatest receivers of all time.
Speaker 1: With the third choice in the two thousand and four
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 5: Wide receiver. University of Fichburn.
Speaker 1: That was the Red Sea Cardinals fans at the official
Speaker 1: draft party two thousand and four welcoming Larry Fitzgerald to
Speaker 1: the valley. Why a departure from the climate a few
Speaker 1: months earlier when many Cardinals fans viewed the win against
Speaker 1: the Vikings as a loss because the Cardinals lost out
Speaker 1: on the number one pick overall and ostensibly a franchise quarterback,
Speaker 1: which eventually was Eli Manning as the top overall pick.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't the only change in the NFL. A
Speaker 1: few years after that, the force out rule would be eliminated,
Speaker 1: and one of the main examples cited was Nate Poole
Speaker 1: who only had one foot down in the end zone
Speaker 1: on that game winning playoff busting touchdown catch that eliminated
Speaker 1: the Vikings. When we come back, Darren urban would the
Speaker 1: Cardinals have taken a quarterback number one overall? Would it
Speaker 1: still have been Larry Fitzgerald. We'll get Darren's perspective when
Speaker 1: we come back to this very special Cardinals Folktales edition
Speaker 1: of the Big Red Rage Miracle in the Desert presented
Speaker 1: by santan Ford in Gilbert. And we're wrapping up this
Speaker 1: very special Cardinals Folk Tales edition of the Big Red
Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan ford In Gilbert Paul Kelvicy joined
Speaker 1: by Darren Irvan deren Ervan covered the game. Miracle in
Speaker 1: the Desert is the title of this Cardinal's Folk Tales
Speaker 1: where we're going to the archives in some great rarely
Speaker 1: heard audio that are Jim Almahundro found both from the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Radio broadcast. Also some of the audio we
Speaker 1: heard from Larry Fitzgerald and coach McGinnis Josh McCown all
Speaker 1: talking about not only the end of the game, but
Speaker 1: the start of a new era of Cardinals football in
Speaker 1: so many different ways. In fact, let's start right there, Darren,
Speaker 1: because what if what if the Cardinals had lost that game?
Speaker 1: What if they had picked number one overall? Would they
Speaker 1: still have picked Larry Fitzgerald or would they have gone
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback?
Speaker 8: You know if I think they end up taking Larry Fitzgerald,
Speaker 8: because I think Denny Green wanted Larry Fitzgerald on his team.
Speaker 8: You know, I remember so vividly in the month leading
Speaker 8: up to the draft. Denny he wasn't like a lot
Speaker 8: of coaches there were oftentimes.
Speaker 10: When he was.
Speaker 8: He said more then maybe he should. And I remember
Speaker 8: in those days, I was covering the team for the
Speaker 8: East Valley Tribune. I had come out to a day
Speaker 8: in the off season sometime in April, and I was
Speaker 8: the only writer here and the only other media member
Speaker 8: who was showing up was Brad Cessmett, who was working
Speaker 8: for one of the local stations that day, and he
Speaker 8: had an interview apparently scheduled with Danny Green. And all
Speaker 8: they did was bring Denny Green down to the media
Speaker 8: area and then they just had a camera and they
Speaker 8: were sitting there and they're having it. So as a
Speaker 8: media member, I'm going to listen to the interview and
Speaker 8: take what I can get from it.
Speaker 1: Hey, nobody told you you couldn't.
Speaker 8: So Denny Green is talking about and you have to
Speaker 8: remember again the draft with Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning
Speaker 8: and Philip Rivers. Those are all available with the Cardinals
Speaker 8: picking third. And at this point the Cardinals quarterback was
Speaker 8: Josh mccowum, probably, and there were questions about Josh and
Speaker 8: whether he was gonna you know, and Denny loved Josh.
Speaker 8: He would talk him up all the time. And at
Speaker 8: one point Denny Green said, we're not going to take
Speaker 8: a quarterback third overall. Well, as a reporter, I had
Speaker 8: that in this day, this is pre internet, so I
Speaker 8: had a big banner headline the next day. Obviously the
Speaker 8: other paper in town didn't have the story. So the
Speaker 8: next day I came back. There were other writers here.
Speaker 8: Ken Summer showed up, Bob Bomb from the Associated Press,
Speaker 8: and they get Denny Green to come down and talk,
Speaker 8: and they're trying to get him to say the same
Speaker 8: thing again and he won't do it. And finally Bob
Speaker 8: Baum says to him, kind of half jokingly, we're trying
Speaker 8: to get you to say what you told Darren yesterday.
Speaker 8: And Denny looked at him and he goes, that was yesterday.
Speaker 8: Today is today.
Speaker 1: I tell you though, that was back in the days.
Speaker 1: And we just talked about this where a quarterback wouldn't
Speaker 1: always go number one, right, And we knew Denny's affinity
Speaker 1: for Larry Fitzgerald, his former ball boy by the way
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, so he knew Larry better than anyone and
Speaker 1: fits as it came to be. Once he did get drafted,
Speaker 1: he showed up in the Cardinals locker room and there
Speaker 1: was Nate Poole. Nate Poole heard it from Larry that
Speaker 1: he cost him the number one pick overall.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, And look, it's not like the Cardinals made
Speaker 8: a poor pick by any stretch of the imagination. But
Speaker 8: you do wonder a little bit what Okay, Eli Manning
Speaker 8: went number one and then Robert Gallery went number two.
Speaker 8: But you wonder a little bit if they didn't take
Speaker 8: Fits and they take Ben Roethlisberger or they take Philip Rivers,
Speaker 8: how different does life with the Cardinals? You know, happen?
Speaker 11: Now?
Speaker 8: The Cardinals make the two thousand and eight Super Bowl
Speaker 8: because they get Kurt Warner, who has his career renaissance
Speaker 8: throwing to Akwambolden and a very very good Larry Fitzgerald,
Speaker 8: And the Cardinals don't make the super Bowl unless Larry
Speaker 8: has arguably the greatest performed postseason performance of any wide
Speaker 8: receiver ever.
Speaker 1: So, and guess what, Kurt Warner doesn't end with the
Speaker 1: Cardinals if Eli Manning doesn't end up with the Giants.
Speaker 8: All so true. Although Eli wasn't drafted by the Giants,
Speaker 8: he was drafted by the Chargers and they had to
Speaker 8: make the trade for Philip Rivers. There's a lot of
Speaker 8: intrigue with that draft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt. Look, Nate Poole didn't have much
Speaker 1: of a career after that. No always remembered for what
Speaker 1: he did for the Green Bay Packers. Got the all
Speaker 1: expenses pay trip in January to Green Bay, gladly because
Speaker 1: he got a key to the city and everything else.
Speaker 1: But they ended up changing the force out rule in
Speaker 1: large part because of how that went down in the
Speaker 1: end zone at Sun Devil Stadium.
Speaker 8: I had no question that it was a force out play.
Speaker 8: And now you have to get feet down and if
Speaker 8: a guy pushes you out of bounds your eye, that
Speaker 8: touchdown does not count in today's NFL.
Speaker 1: So many memorable moments and memorable radio calls from that game.
Speaker 1: One of the great historic moments in Cardinals history, and
Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure reliving it, no doubt about it.
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