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Visit Azycardinals 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 4: dot Com, Slash podcast, a. 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 5: Red Seats, Rising. 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 6: Up Jumper, your Rising Vision Flurry Rage, Take it Ober. 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: Here's Paul CALVICI. 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 7: I'm ready. 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. 19 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 8: And Darren Urban, I'll bolt. 20 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: This Urban kid fre You know, as much as I 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: despised Shakespeare in college as an English undergrad, I love 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: a good Shakespearean tragedy in football, especially when it happens 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: to the opponent. And that is why we are gathered 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: here today for this very special Cardinals Folktales edition of 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford in Gilbert 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: Miracle in the Desert. That is the title of tonight's episode, 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: as we hit the rewind button and go back into 28 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: Cardinals history, all time anecdotes, as we like to say, 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals folktales where you can't spell the word history without 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: the word story. Paul Calvic here, Darren Urban was there 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: covered the game back in two thousand and three. This 32 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: is the rare game, Darren, where it was best remembered 33 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: for what both teams did not get. The Vikings do 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: not get a playoff Berth, the Cardinals did not get 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: the first pick in the draft. Talking about this season 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: and Alley two thousand and three. 37 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 8: This is true. I hadn't really thought about it that 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 8: but but you know you, going negative doesn't really surprise 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 8: me that much, Paul. 40 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: Look, the real winner was a team that wasn't in 41 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: the game. 42 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 8: Yes, that's true that Green Bay Packers got through the 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 8: playoffs because of that result, and they they did feel 44 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 8: like winners that day. And Nate Poole can attest to 45 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 8: that because he ended up in Green Bay a week 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 8: later at the playoff game. 47 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 3: Yes. 48 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's by far the highlight of Nate Poole's career. Yes, 49 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna learn. In fact, you tell us since you 50 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: where were you, by the way, for Nate Pool's shining moment? 51 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: Were you still in the press. 52 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 8: Pot those in those days, all the reporters would gather 53 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 8: in the corner of the end zone, and we were 54 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 8: down on the end of the field that the Cardinals 55 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 8: scored upon. We were just on the other side. So 56 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 8: we were down there in the between the back line, 57 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 8: the back of the goal line, in about the ten 58 00:02:54,760 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 8: yard line, watching this unfold. Couldn't see exactly because it 59 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 8: was on the far sideline the catch, but you could 60 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 8: hear the crowd explode. I was down there when you know, 61 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 8: Josh McCown was pleading to the official to give them 62 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 8: the call when they were going to the replay. I 63 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 8: remember that very distinctly because we were on the field 64 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 8: by then and it was just it was an amazing 65 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 8: end to what turned out to be Dave McGinnis's career 66 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 8: as the head coach, and obviously it was a springboard 67 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 8: to them getting Larry Fitzgerald. 68 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of change after this game. 69 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: Going into the game, though, I mean, what were the 70 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: odds the Cardinals had a chance to really win a 71 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: game when they hadn't won a game in nearly two months, 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: and the Vikings needed the game to clinch a playoff spot. 73 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 8: Well, the funny thing is is, not only did anybody 74 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 8: think the Cardinals really had a chance, but even if 75 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 8: they lost, it didn't look real good for them to 76 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 8: get the number one overall pick. They needed a couple 77 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 8: of bad teams to win, and it ended up working 78 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 8: out that way if they had had lost. But then again, 79 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 8: you know, the vice Kings came in. I'm guessing they 80 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 8: were a little overconfident. I don't know. I remember watching 81 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 8: the game from the press box thinking to myself, they 82 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 8: don't look like they're ready to put this team away. 83 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 8: The Vikings don't look like they're ready to put the 84 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 8: Cardinals away. And those Cardinal teams were not good, but 85 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 8: they did give effort. And you had a lot of 86 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 8: guys out there playing for the first time or very 87 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 8: inexperienced Josh McCown, Reggie Wells. I mean, you go down 88 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 8: the list, and they just didn't give up. Now, they 89 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 8: needed some bounces there at the end, for sure, but 90 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 8: the fact they were even in shouting distance of the 91 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 8: game never should have happened. 92 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: And we're gonna get a full recap here because it 93 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: really is gripping. I mean, the first three quarters of 94 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: the game not so much, but it was seventeen to 95 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: six Vikings with under seven minutes to play. Then just 96 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: after the two minute warning it's a one score game. 97 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: You need the on sidekick Neil Rackers, right, he was 98 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: a master at making the ball do different things. He 99 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: had that soccer background, and then things just got really 100 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: crazy from there. I mean, with all due respect to 101 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: a young Dave Pash behind the mic, it's the rare 102 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: game where the truly memorable radio calls came from a 103 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: the losing team and be the team that really benefited 104 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: two time zones away who needed a Cardinals win more 105 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: than the Cardinals did. 106 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, there's definitely some memorable calls. With all due respect 107 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 8: to Dave, I don't know if he ranks in the 108 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 8: top two there, but it was an amazing time all 109 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 8: the way around, just because of how it ended and 110 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 8: what it meant and just the memories of that game 111 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 8: and for Josh mccount and aatepool. 112 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: And we're gonna hear how it all unfolded in real 113 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: time at the time two thousand and three. Heck, it 114 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: was a holiday season and the Cardinals rock team Santa Colors, right, red, 115 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: white and black. So this was their own gift, their 116 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: own parting gift to the home fans. And when we 117 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: come back and this very special Cardinals Folk Tales edition 118 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: of the Big Red Rage, we'll hear it for ourselves, 119 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: Miracle in the Desert presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. 120 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: And welcome back into our special Cardinals Folk Tales edition 121 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: of The Big Red Rage, resented by Santanford in Gilbert. 122 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: We're hit in rewind into Cardinals history because remember, you 123 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: can't spell the word history without the word story, and 124 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: boy do we have one. From the final week of 125 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: the regular season two thousand and three, Cardinals were hosting 126 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: the Vikings and the Cardinals had exactly nothing to play 127 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: for beyond the number one pick, which they would secure 128 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: with a loss. The ninety six Vikings came in. Remember 129 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: they had started six and oh that season, but their 130 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: playoff hopes were on the line. They needed a win 131 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: to secure a postseason berth and the week before they 132 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: had already KOed KC forty five to twenty. That was 133 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: a Kansas City team that went thirteen and three in 134 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. So with that in mind, not 135 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: many gave the Cardinals a chance. But as quarterback of 136 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: the time, Josh McCown would say, later, Hey, you've been 137 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: around coach McGuinness. He can make any game feel like 138 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And that would be foreshadowing because coach McGinnis, 139 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: who was great with the medium, also had a great 140 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: comparison between the two receivers on the field that day 141 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: who were college teammates once upon a time at Marshall. 142 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: We'll hear that a little bit later, but the Cardinals 143 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: were talking about Nate Poole thirty six career games in 144 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. He managed a total of thirty four career 145 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: catches and two touchdowns, but at the end of his 146 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: brief time in the NFL, only one of those thirty 147 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: four receptions truly mattered. It got him a key to 148 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: a city, It got him a personalized phone call from 149 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: a mayor. It got him a local TV commercial all 150 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: in the city of Green Bay. So with that as 151 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: the background, let's hit that rewind button to Miracle in 152 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: the Desert. It's the final week of two thousand and three, 153 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: this season finale that would end the year for two teams. 154 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 5: The count throwing far side into the end zone and 155 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 5: the ball. 156 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 6: Is touchdown Turtinals. 157 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 7: An unbelievable turn of events. Not here at lambeau Field, 158 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 7: but in the desert, you would. 159 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: Have thought we won Super Bowl. I mean, it was 160 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: an unbelievable moment. 161 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 6: The Vikings are going home for the new year. 162 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 2: You just don't lose like that. Nobody loses like that, 163 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: Let alone to Nathan Poole. 164 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 9: And they pulls a good person to make that play. 165 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 9: He deserves it. 166 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: Not one other Minnesota Vikings are even moving right now. 167 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 10: You lose a game and it opens the door for 168 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 10: your worst enemy. 169 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 7: The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're going to 170 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 7: be host of the game. 171 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 10: It was as if the sun fell out of the sky. 172 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 10: You know, it was miserable day of existence. 173 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: That time that two teams played one game, that stop 174 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: time in three cities was a Cardinals receiver in or 175 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: out of bounds? Were the Vikings and Packers in or 176 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: out of the playoffs? Who would be drafting one, two, 177 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: and three? All dictated by a Cardinals win that some 178 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: viewed as a loss. 179 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 5: I think we've ben The fans were like now, let's 180 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 5: just get this season over and get the number one 181 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 5: pick walk away with the Eli manning. 182 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 9: There was something to play for there there. You know 183 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 9: they're playing for something. We can be playing for something too. 184 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 11: He got flushed out to the right. I said, oh, 185 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 11: here he come, being to. 186 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 7: The Angelic County. 187 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 10: Knocked me out at number one pick too. Man, I've 188 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 10: probably been the first pick of the draft. Man, they 189 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 10: cost me, Nate poll Man. I'd never forgive him for that. 190 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 10: I tell them that all the time. 191 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 7: Nathan Paul may become a household. 192 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 6: Name in Green Bay. 193 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 11: This is Mayle Schmidt. I love to get you out 194 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 11: to one of the games. I said, oh no, I 195 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 11: would love to come out. 196 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: He was given a key to the city of Green 197 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: Bay and he got to go to their playoff game. 198 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 12: I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to 199 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 12: go out in Green Bay if that is his desire. 200 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 12: He will have a lot of people who will take 201 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 12: good care of him. 202 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: To the winner goes the Spoils. That's after the Cardinals 203 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: took care of the Vikings. All right, a big win, 204 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: but the big winner the Packers welcome into Cardinals Folktales 205 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: Miracle in the Desert presented by seventy two Souls, where 206 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: we go in depth into Cardinals history, all time anecdotes 207 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: through the recollections and memories of those who lived in 208 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: or in my case, those who covered it. My name 209 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: is Paul Kelvic, Cardinals sideline reporter. We're talking about that 210 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: time when little known Nate Poole got the key to 211 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: a city. While his own fan base lamented what it 212 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: did not get. 213 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: People said, well, y'all, you know you cost it the 214 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: number one pick. 215 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 5: The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinal's history 216 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 5: and one of the greatest receivers of all time. 217 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings. 218 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 12: Got down down. 219 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't believe what just happened. 220 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 6: The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs. 221 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: One of the great calls, one of the great thrill 222 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: of victory, agony of defeat moments in NFL history, every 223 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: bit as much Shakespearean tragedy as season finale. December twenty eighth, 224 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Cardinals playing for the number one 225 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: pick with a loss, the Vikings playing for the postseason 226 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: with a win or a Packers loss. Yet none of 227 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: the above happened. Here's former head coach Dave McGinnis and 228 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: quarterback Josh McCown. 229 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 5: We gotta win a game and we haven't won a 230 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 5: game in seven weeks. 231 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we need to win a ballgame. You know, 232 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people I know pulling. 233 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: Obviously. 234 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 9: Coach McGinnis was fantastic in front of the room. He 235 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 9: was very captivating, and that was one of the things 236 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 9: that he talked about was just the ability to knock 237 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 9: those guys off. You know that they were coming in, 238 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 9: they had to beat us, and you know they were 239 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 9: going to get into the playoffs, and so there was 240 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 9: something to play for there there. You know, it wasn't 241 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 9: just a game where we're gonna roll the ball out 242 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 9: there and get it over with and go home. He 243 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 9: was like, man, this is they're playing for something. We 244 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 9: can be playing for something too. 245 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: In two thousand and three, it was a sixteen game season. 246 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals entered the final week three and twelve. The Vikings, 247 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: after a six and oho start, were nine and six, 248 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: coming off a ko of KC the week before a 249 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: forty five to twenty drubbing of a Chiefs team that 250 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: would finish thirteen and three. So all the Vikings had 251 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: to do what everyone expected him to do, polish off 252 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: a reeling Cardinals team with a quarterback making his third 253 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: career start, a coach about to be fired, and the 254 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: NFL's all time leading rusher getting peppered about his own 255 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: future on Christmas Eve. 256 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 13: I mean, who knows? We can play hypothetical all day? 257 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 13: Is Maczia great? But if he's not here, people coming in, 258 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 13: what their plans are, what their ideas, and what they thought. 259 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 2: So I gotta win on all that. 260 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 13: So you asking me to make up answer to something 261 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 13: that I don't have all the information to, that's stupid. 262 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 13: I'm not that stupid. 263 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, please, somebody changing. 264 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: Something to please? 265 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 5: Thank you. 266 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 13: How about the spirit of Jollyness and happiness. 267 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: That's former Cardinals running back and Hall of Famer Emmitt Smith, 268 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: And hey, no doubt what would make the Red Sea 269 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: jolly and happy? The number one overall pick under their tree. 270 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: Here's the voice of the Cardinals, Dave Pash was in 271 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: his second season three. 272 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 5: And you endure that long of a season and you're 273 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 5: calling games for a team that's losing a lot of games. 274 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 5: The one thing is, okay, you got a chance to 275 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 5: get a franchise changing quarterback. Let's just get through this 276 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 5: and get to that draft. Get your guy, enjoy the 277 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 5: next ten years and a couple of Super Bowls that 278 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 5: whole year. 279 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 9: You grow up fast in this business and you go, wait, 280 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 9: they're gonna fire these coaches. Wait a minute, they could 281 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 9: draft a new quarterback, like, you know, I was just 282 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 9: a quarterback of the future two days ago. 283 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: That You know, all these things, you grow really fast. 284 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: That's Cardinals could be Josh McCown, the third round pick 285 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: the year before, who earned the final three starts of 286 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: that O three season and tried to channel the confidence 287 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: that his head coach Dave McGinnis showed in him against 288 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: NFC North leading Minnesota. 289 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 9: I think when you look at their roster U when 290 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 9: they're coming out to us with everything to play for, 291 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 9: I think it was a tall task. Uh So looking 292 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 9: at that going yeah, we're gonna beat the Minnesota Vikings. 293 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 9: You know, realistically, I don't know if that was you know, 294 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 9: if that was an easy sale for coach, but he 295 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 9: did a good job of framing that for us. And 296 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 9: and and I think he was, you know, benefited from 297 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 9: a young quarterback who didn't know any better and just 298 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 9: was gonna go out and play the game. 299 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 5: It's the Cardinals and Vikings from Tempe Arizona Sun Devil Stadium. 300 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: Not a lot of action for the announcers to call 301 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: in a fifty one degree day, a virtual snooze fest 302 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: six ze at halftime, seven to six entering the fourth 303 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: quarter when Randy Moss scores on a seven yard pass. 304 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 5: A lot closer than many thought it would be, especially 305 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 5: with a playoff spot on the line of the Vikings win, 306 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 5: they clinched their division. If they lose and Green Bay wins, 307 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 5: they're out of the playoffs. 308 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: Then, just over two minutes later, a forty six yard 309 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: fuel goal makes it seventeen to six Vikings with six 310 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: forty eight to play, but hang on. On the first 311 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: play after the two minute warning. 312 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 5: Mccount takes play, bank rolls to his right, mccount in trouble, flushdown, 313 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 5: throws end zone and going down to make the catch 314 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 5: for a touchdown of Steve Bush. Steve Bush with a 315 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 5: touchdown catch. Great improv job by Josh McCown. 316 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: A fourteen play touchdown drive bought. The two point conversion failed, 317 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: so at seventeen to twelve Vikings, a score echoed on 318 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: the Packers broadcast. 319 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 7: Game Minnesota leading seventeen to twelve. Remember, the only way 320 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 7: the Packers can make the playoffs now is if Minnesota 321 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 7: loses this football game somehow, some way. 322 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: That's the radio call at Lambell, Wayne Larrvie and Larry 323 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: McCarron paying close attention nearly two thousand miles away in 324 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Cardinals are. 325 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 5: Going to try to recover an onside kick to perhaps 326 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 5: give us a little bit more time to broadcast. 327 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 14: Luckily, that day I wasn't demolition, I was recovery. And 328 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 14: you know, Josh Kobe and company went in there, you know, 329 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 14: blasting guys and right place, right time. 330 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: That's former Cardinals running back Damien Anderson. And that's the recipe, 331 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: the mentality for a successful onside kick, because that's exactly 332 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: what the Cardinals needed. Good news, the Cards are just 333 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: picked up one of the best in the business in 334 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: Neil Rackers. 335 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 5: So on fifty four to play. Neil Rackers is very 336 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 5: good on side kick. 337 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 9: We were all standing there, you know, waiting him because 338 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 9: that was we knew that that was the next piece. 339 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 9: You know, you had to get that to keep the 340 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 9: ball game going. And you know, Neil hits a perfect ball, 341 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 9: and I mean it was just how you drew it up, 342 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 9: you know. And Damien comes up with it. 343 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 5: Rackers are the on side kick far aside and it 344 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 5: bounce us in the air. Hey, the Cardinals have it. 345 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: Of the forty two. 346 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 5: Davian Anderson comes up with it on the re direction 347 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 5: and the Cards have a chance. With one fifty four 348 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 5: to play. 349 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 7: The Arizona Cardinals tried an onside kick and Larry Loan 350 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 7: tohold they recovered it with a minute fifty four to 351 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 7: go in that football game in the desert and the 352 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 7: Vikings leading seventeen to twelve. 353 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 8: Well, I'm going to shut up about this last game. 354 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 14: Stuff done. 355 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 7: Maybe they don't have a miracle. Keep talking about it. 356 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 7: You may be jinxing us into something good here. 357 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 8: Maybe that miracle can't happen. 358 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: You get to that on side kick, and now all 359 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: of a sudden, all bets are off. I mean, anything 360 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: can happen against anybody anytime, and as we know, it did. 361 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: That's longtime voice of the Vikings Paul Out. More from 362 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: him later, much more soul Cardinals had the ball back 363 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: one fifty four left sixty one yards to go, needing 364 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: a touchdown. With one time out. After a thirty yard 365 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: pass interference and a thirteen yard completion in Nate Pool, 366 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: the Cardinals reached the Minnesota nine with thirty nine seconds 367 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: to go. 368 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 7: I meanwhile out in the desert in Arizona, getting a 369 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 7: little bit closer. 370 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 8: You know people are aware of this because you could 371 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 8: hear a thousand in the crowd. 372 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: There is definitely everyone is out of their seats in 373 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: three different states. When Josh McCown is put on his seat, 374 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: two straight plays quit drop of McCown looking. 375 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 5: Left, hump back, and a pound sacked back at the 376 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 5: seventeen yyline. McCown flushed out running near side, lost the ball, 377 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 5: it's loose, and the Cardinals able the pound sign up 378 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 5: of the twenty eight. 379 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 9: Himmitt has a presence of mind to go, Josh, get up, 380 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 9: get up. We gotta get the ball. Snap we got well, 381 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 9: Tom House, we gotta go. So we get to play 382 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 9: call and then you know, and then we you know, 383 00:18:59,080 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 9: fortunately get the bolls. 384 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 14: You knew that was josh skill set, Like call a 385 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 14: play that works for him, you know, get him out, 386 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 14: you know, get him out in some space so he'll 387 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 14: have a multitude of options. 388 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 5: The clock running down under fifteen seconds left. It's fourth 389 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 5: down at twenty four and it's. 390 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 12: Gonna come down to this. 391 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 5: They gotta throw it into. 392 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 12: The end zone. This is it. 393 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: Fourth down, fourth and twenty five from the twenty eight. 394 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: The Packers and Vikings playoff hopes hanging in the balance 395 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: once again. Voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen. 396 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: There was worry and anxiety and teeth gnashing every step 397 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 2: of the way. 398 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: Hey Green Bay, you still watching, you bet you? 399 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 7: And they're winding it down in Arizona. This is the 400 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 7: last gas, fourth and twenty four, back outside the twenty five. 401 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 5: And here we go eight seconds seven six five four. 402 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 7: The count of the ball. 403 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 5: This will be the last play. The count steps up, 404 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 5: rolling far side. 405 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 8: Just so happened. 406 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 11: He got flushed, He got flushed out to the right. 407 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 11: I said, oh, here he come, the. 408 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 5: Count throwing far side into the end zone and the 409 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 5: ball is pup, touchdown. 410 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 12: Cardinal's Nate Poll and. 411 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 6: The Cardinals win the game on the final pool and 412 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 6: the thin Kiggers. 413 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: Are going home for the new year. 414 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 11: Josh Man, you know the whole time he's running, he's rolling, 415 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 11: he's pointing to the right. I'm inside, I know he's 416 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 11: about to throw it over there and the defender he 417 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 11: had no clue. He had no clue. 418 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: What a great throw by Josh McCown. 419 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 5: He threw it up rolling Nate Poole could. 420 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 10: Get it, and he did it. 421 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 9: I felt like it was just there was a connection 422 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 9: for us, you know, and so boom there is and 423 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 9: then the ball came out, uh and he makes an 424 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 9: unbelievable cash. 425 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 6: The Cardinals winning on the final play. 426 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 5: Josh mccount fin's made pool in the back of the 427 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 5: end zone of the far side. 428 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 9: You would have thought we won a super Bowl. And 429 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 9: I mean, it was an unbelievable moment, and and it 430 00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 9: meant a lot. 431 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: To those guys out, but it meant even more to 432 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: Nate Poole, the guy who had been cut four times 433 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: and then he cut loose against the visiting Vikings fans 434 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: who had populated and dominated Sun Devil Stadium trash talk 435 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: in three two one take lso. 436 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 11: Don't come back deal and next to y'alling the same thing. 437 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: Nate Poole the living embodiment of the ups and downs 438 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: of an NFL game. He was something fired up while 439 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: those Viking fans could have been more let down. Remember 440 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: Nate Poole was a player who was always in proven mode, 441 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: always existing on the edge of the roster, so he 442 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: played with an edge. We heard it right there, and 443 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: it's amazing when you look back, how that one catch, 444 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: that one toe tapping catch that proved to be a 445 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: game winner, How it set off a domino effect, a 446 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: whole litany of changes that all altered the history of 447 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: not only the Cardinals, but basically all the teams atop 448 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 1: that two thousand and four draft franchise quarterbacks going two 449 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: different teams, the Cardinals getting themselves a Hall of Famer 450 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: as well, who might have gone number one overall off 451 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals were in that position, but they weren't. And 452 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: the changes even extended to the rule book years later. 453 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: We'll get to that when we come back. And don't 454 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: forget Nate Pool was not just a celebrity in Arizona. 455 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: He was the toast of the town in Green Bay. 456 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: And we'll relive all that when we come back to 457 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: this very special Cardinals Folktales edition of the Big Red 458 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: Rage Miracle in the Desert, presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. 459 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: It's our special Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big Red 460 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: Rage presented by a Santan Ford in Gilbert. This is 461 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: where we go into Cardinals history, go into the archives. 462 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: Can't spell the word history without the word story. And 463 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about the final game of the two thousand 464 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: and three season. My name is Paul Calvi. 465 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: Seen. 466 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: We started by saying, remember that one time, that one 467 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: game played by two teams in two thousand and three, 468 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: that stop time in three different NFL cities. Remember Nate Poole, 469 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals receiver, and was the in or out of bounds? 470 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: We pose that question, Well, he was most definitely inbounds, 471 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: and the Vikings were most definitely out of the playoffs, 472 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals were out of the top pick in 473 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: the draft. We'll get to that, but remember when it 474 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: comes to the Vikings, you're talking about a team that 475 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: not only started six to zero and was on the 476 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: verge of the playoffs, but that season, the four worst 477 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: teams in the league were the Giants, the Raiders, the Chargers, 478 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals. Each team finished four and twelve. Each 479 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: one of those teams beat the Vikings, So you can 480 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: imagine the on the Minnesota side. In fact, their radio announcer, 481 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: the voice of the Vikings Paul Allen became a meme 482 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: before there even were memes in social media, and that's 483 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: where we rejoined this edition of Cardinals Folktales Miracle in 484 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: the Desert, and former Cardinals quarterback Josh McCown two years 485 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: later had empathy for the Vikings. 486 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 9: Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings because 487 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 9: they were right there on the cusp and to lose. 488 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: That way, man, that's bitter. 489 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: Nate Poole's game winning, playoff busting, last second, fourth down 490 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: touchdown catch was one of his two two career touchdowns, 491 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: leaving the Vikings on the outside of the playoff picture 492 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: looking in as radio voice Paul Allen and company were 493 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: left in a state of utter disbelief. 494 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 2: People were just staring longingly on the team bust to 495 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: the airport. Nobody knew what to say, and they were 496 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 2: just down trodden. 497 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 5: And you just don't lose like that. 498 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: Nobody loses like that, let alone to Nathan Poole, not 499 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: ang Kwam Bolden. So I mean, now as we connect 500 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: the dots, you know, of the entire thing over twenty years, 501 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: it hits me so vividly because of how emotional it 502 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: was at that moment. 503 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 6: The season's on the line, two receivers left and right. 504 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 6: McCown takes the snap. 505 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: He steps up, he's all by himself. 506 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 6: Fires into the end zone. 507 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 12: DoD dods down. 508 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 6: No, no, the Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of 509 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 6: the playoffs. 510 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: The previous owner of the team, Red McCombs, hated that call. 511 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 2: He didn't let me know, but he let others know. 512 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: Some vice presidents here, so you know, I had some 513 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: conversations with some vice presidents and I'm like, you know, 514 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 2: you don't script moments like that, and that's what came out. 515 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: So I had to deal with that very young in 516 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: my career. 517 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 5: I understand we're Paul's coming from. You get invested in 518 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 5: the team. It's your team, and I thought Paul handled 519 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 5: it perfectly. Some people might say, uh, it's not professional, 520 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 5: but that's how the fans feeling. 521 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: No, are you kidding? 522 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 7: Right? 523 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 5: That was Paul's reaction. 524 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: One thing I remember about the call is I looked 525 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: to my left where the coaches were, and our linebackers 526 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: coach at that time, he bursage. He could hear me 527 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: through the glass yelling no, no, no, no, And then 528 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: I came down. The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out 529 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: of the playoffs. 530 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 6: The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs. 531 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: The way he looked at me, it was not anger 532 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: at me. It was one of two things. Oh my god, 533 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: I can't believe what just happened. Oh my god, that 534 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: check that I was going to get for a playoff bonus, 535 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: it just went up into the tenpiece. 536 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: Guy from Minnesota fans saying you sunk my Viking ship. 537 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: Just the sheer agony of it all to the utter 538 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: ecstasy of cheesehead nation listening on the Packers radio network. 539 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 15: And here we go. 540 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 7: This is if the season for the Packers. On the 541 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 7: line into the end zone, the count pack Hey got 542 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 7: hat cutting down? 543 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 6: It is autun on Packers by label. 544 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: The complete bedlook from Wayne Larity and Larry McCarron reacting 545 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: to a game they're not even calling, just watching from 546 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: two thousand miles away. 547 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 7: Patters the biggestmericon on the Packers. Sadly, any reps Packers, 548 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 7: They finally realizes, any reps. I'm a final playoff. 549 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 6: The regular season for the fight Kings pay. 550 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 7: Lose eighteen to seventeen. The Packers not only make the playoffs, 551 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 7: they're gonna be host of the game. 552 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: True Brett Farvan. The Packers would host the Seahawks at 553 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: lambeaut to open the playoffs. Later, Dave mcginni shared with 554 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: the media that Packers coach Mike Sherman and GM Mark 555 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: Hadley called him and said, quote, you're a bleeping king 556 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: here in Green Bay. The thing is back in Tempee, 557 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: speaking of coach mac different emotions, a different reality started 558 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: to set in as the Cardinals locker room grew quiet, 559 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: almost somber. 560 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 16: For all that we've been through, we never quit on 561 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 16: each other. It was a constant, constant reminder of what 562 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 16: character I've got in this room. 563 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: I've never been afraid to tell you that I love you. 564 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 9: It was somber, and it's very soberinging. You're just like, man, 565 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 9: back to reality. This is what we're faced with. And 566 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 9: he was genuine with his words, and you know, and 567 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 9: how I caried about guys, and so I think he 568 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 9: understood in that moment that that was probably, you know, 569 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 9: the last time or one of the last times he 570 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 9: was going to address us as a group. 571 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 17: I've never been afraid to open myself to you because 572 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 17: you've got my heart. You've got my heart, You know. 573 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 9: It's a roller coaster, really, because you were just as 574 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 9: high as it gets. You know, for fifteen twenty minutes, 575 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 9: they're celebrating and enjoying one another, and then you know, 576 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 9: the business sets in. 577 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 15: When Nate Poole gave me this ball that he caught. 578 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 15: What did I tell you last night? I cut this 579 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 15: man four times. I cut him four times, and every 580 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 15: time I did, he stood up in my office and 581 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 15: hugged me and said, Mike, if you need me, I'll 582 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 15: be back because you're the only man I want to 583 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 15: play for. 584 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: And that's the way I know that all of you 585 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: feel right now. 586 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 11: It was real motion on It was like you know, 587 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 11: your last family hug, you know, and you know, and 588 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 11: it hurt because we know, you know, he's a player's 589 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 11: coach and he loved the players. He want the players 590 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 11: to do, you know, to excel, to be really great. 591 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: You know what I feel for you, You know what 592 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: I feel for you. 593 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 17: This was a tremendous, tremendous demonstration of men that not 594 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 17: only love each other, but believe, believe, believe. 595 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 11: You know, most of us felt like we let Dave 596 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 11: down because you know, we didn't come up on the 597 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 11: winning side. Of a lot of these games to keep 598 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 11: him around. 599 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: I'll never ever give up on you. 600 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 7: I love you. 601 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 6: Thank you. 602 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: On the very next day, with a feign twelfth season 603 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: in the books, Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis was indeed fired. 604 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: Vikings head coach Mike Tye survived despite the Vikings collapse 605 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: after that six and oh start. As for the Packers, 606 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: the party was just starting and Nate Poole's celebrity was growing. 607 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 7: Nathan Pole of all people hop about that Nathan Cole 608 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 7: may become a household name in Green Bay. 609 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: It was an amazing play. But you know, like I 610 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 2: say about Nathan, and I'm not being disparaging here, but 611 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: that was his fifteen minutes of fame. And then of 612 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: course the next week he was given a key to 613 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: the city of Green Bay and he got to go 614 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: to their playoff game, and that is accurate. Nate Poole, 615 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: who going into the season finale had eight catches all 616 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: season and no touchdowns, was now Packers royalty, to the 617 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: point where he got a call from the mayor of 618 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: Green Bay. 619 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 11: So Mayor Schmitz gave me a call and I was like, oh, 620 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 11: here we go. Stop calling my phone. Because I'm thinking 621 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 11: it's a player, and I'm thinking he's gonna call that 622 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 11: player's gonna call me back and say, man, dude, what 623 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 11: are you doing? Then I got a call right back. 624 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 11: It was the same number, and I'm like, okay, hey, 625 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 11: how you doing this in April? And he was like, Hey, Nate, no, 626 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 11: this is not a joke. This is Mayor Schmidt. I 627 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 11: love to get you out in a speed talking I 628 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 11: love to get you out to one of the games. 629 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 11: I said, oh no, I would love to come out. 630 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: And that's not the only call he got that week. 631 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: On the Big Red Rage radio show with host Dave Pash, 632 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: a Packers fan dialed in from the Midwest line too. 633 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 5: Dave, Mary Joe, Mary Joe, Welcome to the Big Red Rage. 634 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 12: Go ahead, Hey guys, thanks a lot. I was just 635 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 12: calling to wish Nate a wonderful time in Green Bay 636 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 12: and to give him a huge thank you. Since the 637 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 12: Vikings started off six and oh this year, I've been 638 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 12: taking a lot of grief or getting a lot of 639 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 12: grief from my friends who are Viking fans, and I 640 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 12: would roll my eyes and just say, oh, you know, 641 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 12: won't you ever learn the Vikings will find some way 642 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 12: to implode again this year and sweet revenge. It has 643 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 12: been a wonderful couple of days and I just want 644 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 12: to offer a great bitch thank you. 645 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 5: Hey, Mary Joe, how about taking date out to dinner 646 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 5: when he gets up there. 647 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 12: I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to 648 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 12: go out in Green Bay if that is his desire. 649 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 12: He will have a lot of people who will take 650 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 12: good care of him. 651 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: Nate Poole laughed all the way to Green Bay, an 652 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: all expense paid trip in January on the tax Beyer's 653 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: tap as the undrafted receiver from Marshall became a grand 654 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: Marshal of sorts. But don't forget about the other end 655 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 1: of that touchdown pass QB. Josh McCown. 656 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 9: You know, they flying Nate up to Green Bay and 657 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 9: they give him a Kidah City or whatever they did, 658 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,239 Speaker 9: and they're sending us. 659 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 3: We were getting Christmas. 660 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 9: Cards from Green Bay fans that it was their family 661 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 9: Christmas card and you know it, you know, scratched out. 662 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas and thank you for beating the vikings. 663 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 9: Go Pat go, and loads of Christmas cards mail to 664 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 9: the house of the Sargento family sent the best cheese 665 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 9: basket you've ever seen in your life. 666 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: That was two thousand three. But even to this day, 667 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: when he's out and about, Josh McCown gets reaction for 668 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 1: both school Nation and America's dairy Land. 669 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 9: Walking through an airport or whatever, and there will be, 670 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 9: you know, a disgruntled Vikings fan and hey, you you 671 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 9: know you owe me, you know type of thing, or 672 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 9: it'll be a Packers fan that'll be like, thank you 673 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 9: for getting us in the playoffs that year, you know, 674 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 9: we owe you. 675 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 10: I was at home back in Minneapolis or watching that game, 676 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 10: and I did not like Natepole because I thought I 677 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 10: had a chance to be the number one pick, and 678 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 10: I used to always mess with Nate. 679 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 1: That's Minnesota native Larry Fitzgerald, not only a former Vikings 680 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: ball boy and their number one fan at the time, 681 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: but fitz might have been the number one pick overall 682 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL draft. 683 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 11: Me and Larry had that conversation. Believe me that he 684 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 11: would have been the number one overall pick. We're talking 685 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 11: in the receiver room before the meeting about being him 686 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 11: being the number one pick. You know, I think back 687 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 11: to what his side of bonus was. He didn't do 688 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 11: too bad at the number three pick. 689 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 9: People said, well, y'all, you know you cost him the 690 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 9: number one pick, and I go back and go, you know, 691 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 9: I don't think Coach Green would have I think he 692 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 9: would have picked Larry. He was gonna pick Larry, and 693 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 9: it turned out really good for Larry and and ultimately 694 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 9: for the arison the Cardinals too. He helped lead that franchise, Uh, 695 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 9: you know, through a lot of things to become a 696 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 9: you know, a competitive franchise and you know, to. 697 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 3: Really what they are today. 698 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 5: Walking away from that with mixed emotions of Wow, what 699 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 5: a way to win a game, but also, oh my goodness, 700 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 5: there goes the quarterback of the future. There goes he lied. 701 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 13: Yep. 702 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals won the game, but lost the number one pick, 703 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: which ended up being Ole Miss quarterback Eli Manning. We'll 704 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: never know who knew head coach Danny Green would have 705 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: picked for the Cardinals, or do we. Larry Fitzgerald says 706 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: at number one, he still would have been the Cardinals selection. 707 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 10: Then he said, I would have been. That's what he 708 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 10: told me. He told me I would have been. But 709 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 10: you know, it all worked his way out. I was 710 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 10: able to still get here and play for him. I know, 711 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 10: we didn't have the success I'd love to have for him. 712 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 10: You know, he gave me my first two jobs I 713 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 10: ever had as a ball boy and then as a 714 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 10: professional athlete, and so I owe him a huge debt 715 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 10: of gratitude and I'm just so very thankful for you know, 716 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 10: the doors he open for me and my family. 717 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 6: Touchdown Cardinals, they pull. 718 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 5: The Cardinals win the game. 719 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 11: I brought my heart head to practice in the games 720 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 11: every day, and I knew, you know, that's what it 721 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 11: was about as growing up as a youngster, that it 722 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 11: was about, you know, bringing your hard hat and working 723 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 11: out and just pushing to make the team. 724 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 5: You know, coaches say run every route as if it's 725 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 5: your last. Well, Nate Pool really did it. But it 726 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 5: was like comical, like he went so hard, So pretty 727 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 5: cool to see a guy that worked that hard have 728 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 5: one of the biggest plays of the season, not just 729 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 5: for the Cardinals but for the entire league. 730 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 11: I got to tell people, hey, you can only do 731 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 11: it one play at a time. I got you on 732 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 11: that play, and. 733 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 1: Needless to say, it's the play in Nate Poole's career, 734 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: one of the most dramatic and consequential plays in NFL history, the. 735 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 6: Cardinals have knocked the Fighting's out of the playoffs. 736 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,479 Speaker 9: And Nay pulls a good person. He's a great person 737 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 9: to be around. And you look back at that and 738 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 9: that's a special moment for me in my career as well. 739 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 9: So but it couldn't happen to a better guy. And 740 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 9: they's good dude. 741 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, who says good dudes finished last? 742 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 7: Right? 743 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: In fact, as Dave McGinnis said back then with a 744 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: smile to the media, quote, there were two receivers on 745 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: the field from Marshall that day. They had Randy Moss, 746 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: we had Nathan Poole. So there you have it. Cardinals 747 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 1: Folktales Miracle in the Desert, presented by seventy two Souls 748 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: for producer jim O. Mahundro. I'm Paul Calvic and that's 749 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: the story of how an unknown receiver won that day, 750 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: but a Hall of fame receiver was on his way. 751 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 5: The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history 752 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 5: and one of the greatest receivers of all time. 753 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: With the third choice in the two thousand and four 754 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Larry Fitzgerald. 755 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 5: Wide receiver. University of Fichburn. 756 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: That was the Red Sea Cardinals fans at the official 757 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: draft party two thousand and four welcoming Larry Fitzgerald to 758 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: the valley. Why a departure from the climate a few 759 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: months earlier when many Cardinals fans viewed the win against 760 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: the Vikings as a loss because the Cardinals lost out 761 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: on the number one pick overall and ostensibly a franchise quarterback, 762 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: which eventually was Eli Manning as the top overall pick. 763 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: But that wasn't the only change in the NFL. A 764 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: few years after that, the force out rule would be eliminated, 765 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: and one of the main examples cited was Nate Poole 766 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: who only had one foot down in the end zone 767 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: on that game winning playoff busting touchdown catch that eliminated 768 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: the Vikings. When we come back, Darren urban would the 769 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals have taken a quarterback number one overall? Would it 770 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: still have been Larry Fitzgerald. We'll get Darren's perspective when 771 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: we come back to this very special Cardinals Folktales edition 772 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: of the Big Red Rage Miracle in the Desert presented 773 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: by santan Ford in Gilbert. And we're wrapping up this 774 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: very special Cardinals Folk Tales edition of the Big Red 775 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan ford In Gilbert Paul Kelvicy joined 776 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: by Darren Irvan deren Ervan covered the game. Miracle in 777 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: the Desert is the title of this Cardinal's Folk Tales 778 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 1: where we're going to the archives in some great rarely 779 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: heard audio that are Jim Almahundro found both from the 780 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: Green Bay Radio broadcast. Also some of the audio we 781 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 1: heard from Larry Fitzgerald and coach McGinnis Josh McCown all 782 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: talking about not only the end of the game, but 783 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: the start of a new era of Cardinals football in 784 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: so many different ways. In fact, let's start right there, Darren, 785 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: because what if what if the Cardinals had lost that game? 786 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: What if they had picked number one overall? Would they 787 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: still have picked Larry Fitzgerald or would they have gone 788 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback? 789 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 8: You know if I think they end up taking Larry Fitzgerald, 790 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 8: because I think Denny Green wanted Larry Fitzgerald on his team. 791 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 8: You know, I remember so vividly in the month leading 792 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 8: up to the draft. Denny he wasn't like a lot 793 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 8: of coaches there were oftentimes. 794 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 10: When he was. 795 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 8: He said more then maybe he should. And I remember 796 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 8: in those days, I was covering the team for the 797 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 8: East Valley Tribune. I had come out to a day 798 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 8: in the off season sometime in April, and I was 799 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 8: the only writer here and the only other media member 800 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 8: who was showing up was Brad Cessmett, who was working 801 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 8: for one of the local stations that day, and he 802 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 8: had an interview apparently scheduled with Danny Green. And all 803 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 8: they did was bring Denny Green down to the media 804 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 8: area and then they just had a camera and they 805 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 8: were sitting there and they're having it. So as a 806 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 8: media member, I'm going to listen to the interview and 807 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 8: take what I can get from it. 808 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: Hey, nobody told you you couldn't. 809 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 8: So Denny Green is talking about and you have to 810 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 8: remember again the draft with Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning 811 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 8: and Philip Rivers. Those are all available with the Cardinals 812 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 8: picking third. And at this point the Cardinals quarterback was 813 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 8: Josh mccowum, probably, and there were questions about Josh and 814 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 8: whether he was gonna you know, and Denny loved Josh. 815 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 8: He would talk him up all the time. And at 816 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 8: one point Denny Green said, we're not going to take 817 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 8: a quarterback third overall. Well, as a reporter, I had 818 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 8: that in this day, this is pre internet, so I 819 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 8: had a big banner headline the next day. Obviously the 820 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 8: other paper in town didn't have the story. So the 821 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 8: next day I came back. There were other writers here. 822 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 8: Ken Summer showed up, Bob Bomb from the Associated Press, 823 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 8: and they get Denny Green to come down and talk, 824 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 8: and they're trying to get him to say the same 825 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 8: thing again and he won't do it. And finally Bob 826 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 8: Baum says to him, kind of half jokingly, we're trying 827 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 8: to get you to say what you told Darren yesterday. 828 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 8: And Denny looked at him and he goes, that was yesterday. 829 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 8: Today is today. 830 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 1: I tell you though, that was back in the days. 831 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: And we just talked about this where a quarterback wouldn't 832 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: always go number one, right, And we knew Denny's affinity 833 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: for Larry Fitzgerald, his former ball boy by the way 834 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, so he knew Larry better than anyone and 835 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: fits as it came to be. Once he did get drafted, 836 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: he showed up in the Cardinals locker room and there 837 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: was Nate Poole. Nate Poole heard it from Larry that 838 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 1: he cost him the number one pick overall. 839 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, And look, it's not like the Cardinals made 840 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 8: a poor pick by any stretch of the imagination. But 841 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 8: you do wonder a little bit what Okay, Eli Manning 842 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 8: went number one and then Robert Gallery went number two. 843 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 8: But you wonder a little bit if they didn't take 844 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 8: Fits and they take Ben Roethlisberger or they take Philip Rivers, 845 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 8: how different does life with the Cardinals? You know, happen? 846 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 11: Now? 847 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 8: The Cardinals make the two thousand and eight Super Bowl 848 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 8: because they get Kurt Warner, who has his career renaissance 849 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 8: throwing to Akwambolden and a very very good Larry Fitzgerald, 850 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 8: And the Cardinals don't make the super Bowl unless Larry 851 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 8: has arguably the greatest performed postseason performance of any wide 852 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 8: receiver ever. 853 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: So, and guess what, Kurt Warner doesn't end with the 854 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals if Eli Manning doesn't end up with the Giants. 855 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 8: All so true. Although Eli wasn't drafted by the Giants, 856 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 8: he was drafted by the Chargers and they had to 857 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 8: make the trade for Philip Rivers. There's a lot of 858 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 8: intrigue with that draft. 859 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt. Look, Nate Poole didn't have much 860 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 1: of a career after that. No always remembered for what 861 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: he did for the Green Bay Packers. Got the all 862 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: expenses pay trip in January to Green Bay, gladly because 863 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: he got a key to the city and everything else. 864 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 1: But they ended up changing the force out rule in 865 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: large part because of how that went down in the 866 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 1: end zone at Sun Devil Stadium. 867 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 8: I had no question that it was a force out play. 868 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 8: And now you have to get feet down and if 869 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 8: a guy pushes you out of bounds your eye, that 870 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,760 Speaker 8: touchdown does not count in today's NFL. 871 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: So many memorable moments and memorable radio calls from that game. 872 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: One of the great historic moments in Cardinals history, and 873 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure reliving it, no doubt about it. 874 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: Miracle in the Desert Cardinals Folktale special thanks to our 875 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: Jim al Mahundro for Darren Urban. 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