1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, the number one show 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: for the invested sports fan. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: All Right, here we go. Growing we're sitting up the 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: cash totop. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 3: We'll see the most gamblers when they go to gamble, 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: they go to win. 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 4: God, that's incredible. 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: Big bank, small bank. 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: I like to make money. All right, this is the 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: ultimate kabary. 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: You wanna puck. 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 3: And we are underway. Welcome to another edition of the 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 3: Action Network Podcast. Week seventeen NFL Betting Preview. I am 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: your host, Chris Raybond, and on today's show, we'll be 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 3: breaking down our top six spread bets of week seventeen 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: and the Sunday six pack, and also giving you our 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: favorite total bet, teaser bet, moneyline, parlay pick and survivor 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: pool pick if you have an still be alive in 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: those formats. No Thursday Night Football this week, So we'll 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: jump right in to the six pack. But before we 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 3: get into that, just a reminder to download the free 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: Action Network app for real time odds, box scores and 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: the capability to track every bet that you make. All right, 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: let's get right into it. Our Sunday six. 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: Pack Thursday for Action. 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 4: Let's crack open the Sunday six pack. 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: All right, I am joined as always by the Prime 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: Minister of degenerate Nation. I got stucky stuck. Happy holidays. 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: How is your week sixteen and what you got going 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: on for the holidays? 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Happy holidays everyone. I just got back from Cleveland, 32 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: so I actually had a second I had a second 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: losing weekend in the NFL. I think I had one 34 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: in the first fourteen weeks and two in the last two. 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: So it's time to pick it up here, humble brag 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: and And I just got back from Cleveland, and I 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: went there to see how Ravens clinch the one seed 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: on the Browns. I would bet them again. I mean 39 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: incompetence and the difference in how well those teams are 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: coaches crazy. But look, it's only a third time all 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: year the Ravens have been held scoreless in the first quarter, 42 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: and that's what you have to do. And then you 43 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: just can't be dumb like the Browns. But they were 44 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: in that game. It's going to help some of these 45 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: teams that have seen the Ravens twice. We'll get into 46 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: that later. There's gonna be some games on the board 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: that you're like, oh, but there's also a lot of 48 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: other games that bring in some new fascinating angles for 49 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: Week seventeen, which we'll get into here shortly. 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: As far as the spreads, I gotta say, I know 51 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: you didn't like I think it was what last week 52 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: or the week before the card like, I don't love 53 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: this one. I like the totals a lot more. We 54 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: are tied up, by the way in our little contest 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: forty eight. All that means we're forty eight to eighty 56 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: through sixteen weeks. That's pretty good hit rate for both 57 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: of us. So, yeah, you got first pick. Let's get 58 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: into it. 59 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: What did I say at the beginning of the year 60 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 2: and throughout the year, I want three points a week, 61 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: so my goal was forty eight. Here we are, but 62 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: we're tied. So this will We're gonna come up with 63 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: our format for the playoffs. This isn't the final week, 64 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: but it's gonna be going into a puz. It's gonna 65 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 2: be a close race no matter what. It's been awesome 66 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: so far. Let's keep up this rate for my first pick. 67 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a piece out on this on the 68 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: Action ork dot Com action app. I'm gonna have examples 69 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: of this going back twenty years. It's something that I've 70 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: tracked manually for twenty years, and then I had to 71 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 2: go back manually and track it further back ten more years. 72 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: Because what I'm talking about here is teams that have 73 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: nothing to play for in Week seventeen playing against teams 74 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: that have to win to get in. And if you 75 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: go back Week sixteen and seventeen the past thirty years, 76 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: and there's no way to do this in a database. 77 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: You can't say, all right, does this team what is 78 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: it a must win? You have to go back and 79 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: then look at the playoffs standings that year, and once 80 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: you get into the actual process of doing it each year, 81 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: you can just update a database, which I do, but 82 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: I had to go back in like the nineties and 83 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: was reading newspaper snippets and seeing tibreaker scenarios, and it's 84 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: a lot harder to do Now. Now you have articles 85 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: like on actionework dot Com and ESPN, you can find 86 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: for two thousand and five one that'll just say Week 87 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: seventeen playoff scenarios, But like nineteen ninety eight it was 88 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: it's not that easy to find anyway. You go back 89 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: just the two thousand and three teams that are playing 90 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: for nothing in Week seventeen are twenty one and thirteen 91 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: against the spread against teams that are playing a must 92 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 2: win scenario to get in their playoffs. Now, not must 93 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: win to improve their seeding, not win to you know, 94 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: improve their division. 95 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 4: They either could or will drop out of the playoffs. 96 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: You know. So some of the games that qualify this weekend. 97 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: The Cowboys, they lose, they're out. The Eagles, if they lose, 98 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 2: they potentially could be out. You know, you have the 99 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: Steelers and the Titans. Those are your four and the 100 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: Raiders also qualify as well. Those are the five teams 101 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: that need to win and if they don't win, they 102 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: need help, right so they're in must win playoff to 103 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: get into the playoff scenarios. Focus just on favorites of 104 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: more than a field goal, the teams that must win 105 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: against he's playing for nothing over that same timeframe seven 106 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: and nineteen against the spread. That's twenty seven percent. Now, 107 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: if you're not into that big sample size, you can 108 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: go back with that, and these are just week seventeen. 109 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: You can go back week sixteen and week seventeen. In 110 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: this scenario, back to nineteen ninety and the teams that 111 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 2: are playing for nothing right around sixty sixty one percent 112 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: against the spread. Why is that, Well, number one, the 113 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: line is and it's not always, but it's generally going 114 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 2: to be inflated in the market because every single person says, 115 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: this team has to win, and they're playing the shitty 116 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: team that's playing for nothing, so you have a lot 117 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: more money coming into this team. Also, a team that 118 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: has playing for nothing is not a playoff team. Probably 119 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: a bad team probably started trending in the wrong direction 120 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: towards the end of the season. Well, now you know, 121 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: and that might have that's some of that could be motivational. 122 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: And but weeks now you get a week seventeen game 123 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: against the team that you can keep out of the playoffs, 124 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you're okay, let's we care again. 125 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 4: This is basically your super Bowl. 126 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 2: You can also play a lot looser, whereas these teams 127 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: that are playing to get intend to play tight not 128 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: to lose. They're like, hey, we're the better team, and 129 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: you see them come out and they get ultra conservative 130 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: and tight, whereas you see these other teams they'll take 131 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: more shots and they'll just play a loose to Brandon 132 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: Football throw out, new looks new wrinkles like the hasn't seen. 133 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: They just say, look, this is our super Bowl this season. 134 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: There's no other tape, doesn't matter what else happens this year. 135 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: So there's many reasons why it happens. Most importantly, it's 136 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 2: because the lines inflated, because everyone in the NFL market says, 137 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: why am I going to bet the Texans playing for 138 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: nothing against the Titans who need to play to get in. 139 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: Last year Week seventeen, Raven's playing the Browns, need to 140 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: win to get in at home, lank six went by two, three, 141 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: two or three. Heers playing the Bengals laying fourteen and 142 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: a half at home. You need to win to get 143 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: in one by two, you know. So there's countless examples 144 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 2: of third string quarterbacks beating on teams that are dead, 145 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: ruining seasons. You see it every single year. It's one 146 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: of my favorite parts about betting Week seventeen with that 147 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: of mine, that's going to be one of my main 148 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: trend for this podcast on my part. So with that 149 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: in mind, my first pick is the Giants plus four 150 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: and a half at home. I make this around three, 151 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: so I think you'll get an extra point and a 152 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 2: half or so I'm waiting to see if I can 153 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: get a five, seeing where this market goes. I mean, 154 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: this line was what nine a couple weeks ago in 155 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: Philly when Eli Manning's first start, and you know, take 156 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: some home field and other situational factors, this lunch should 157 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: be a right around three. Well, what you have to 158 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: keep in mind is in that game, zach Ertz dominated, dominated, 159 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: two touchdowns, was dominant. 160 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: They are probably going to be without him. They signed Richard. 161 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: Rodgers off, you know, which means that they're worried about 162 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: him playing. They still this Eagles team I didn't learn 163 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: much about. They still can't cover downfield and apparently Dak 164 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: shoulder was hurved. Becau Dallas didn't try to throw down 165 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: field for some reason. I don't know why. I mean, 166 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: I'm assuming that's the reason why. But their corners are 167 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: still vulnerable. They still have no weapons on the outside. 168 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: This is the Giant Super Bowl Division rival up in 169 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: New York. Knock Philly out. I mean, you're this is 170 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: a team that just look, the Eagles beat the Cowboys. 171 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: No one wanted a part of the Eagles last week. 172 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: Now everyone wants a part of the Eagles this week. 173 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: This is still the same Eagles team that lost to 174 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: the Dolphins, that needed to come back and win in 175 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: overtime at home against the Giants. This team is not 176 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: that good people. They don't have weapons on the outside. 177 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: It's mainly their defense. It's like their trenches and you know, 178 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: not that they don't have ERTs their best player on offense. 179 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: So the four and a half is too many here. 180 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: I think the Giants win this game, to be honest, 181 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: and it'll come down to the Cowboys are gonna steak 182 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: into the playoff. 183 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: That's you're fitting into the nfcas By the way, I mean, you. 184 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: Just made me want to change one of my picks 185 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: because that's a really good point. And yeah, I think 186 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: the Giants have receivers to actually exploit, you know, down 187 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: the field. I mean they have Shepherd Tate uh and Swayton. 188 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: I know he was kind of in and out of 189 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: that game last week, but I think he's he should 190 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: be fine. Latimer obviously stepped up. But the Giants have 191 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: some guys, you know, when they're healthy at receiver, even 192 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: without Evan Ingram uh that's a pretty good trio of 193 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: receivers and a pretty productive fourth receiver uh In Latimer. 194 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: So, yeah, two bomb touchdowns the first time they played 195 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: in Philly, right. 196 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he had he he had like two 197 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: targets and no catch his last game. But he I 198 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: think he spent this portion of that game on the 199 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: sideline and he was back in weight and they targeted him, 200 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: I think on the play or two before they won 201 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: the game to h to Kyden Smith with the touchdown. 202 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: So he should be fine and he's yeah, he's gonna 203 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: be the key for them. But I think people underestimate, 204 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: you know, a guy like Sterling Shepherd, who everyone's kind 205 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: of you know, joking on the Giants. Ah, you got 206 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: like three thought receivers. Well, you know, Shepherd's been playing 207 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: on the outside a lot more and playing well. So yeah, 208 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: I'm with you. I think it's gonna be a tough 209 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: game for the Eagles, and they keep losing key guys 210 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: on offense, and at some point you just have to wonder, 211 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: you know, and it's already pretty much caught up for them. 212 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: I mean, they have no explosiveness. They're lucky that a 213 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: guy like Greg Ward, you know, has been able to 214 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: step up and give them four or five catches and 215 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: take you know, seven eight targets a game and make them, 216 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: you know, weak average productiveness, or they would kind of 217 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: be sunk. They're lucky they have a number two tight 218 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: end that's as good as most teams Number one in 219 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 3: Dallas Goddard, or they'd really be sunk. So yeah, look, 220 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: by the. 221 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: Way, if you're looking into NFL futures and we talk 222 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: about them, I don't believe in this Eagles secondary, which 223 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: is ultimately what I think will be their downfall. But 224 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: they have the offensive line, they have the defensive line, 225 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: they had the quarterback, the tight end. Sanders is coming along, 226 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: and if you believe in them based on matchups, to 227 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: get to the second round, and and then you get 228 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 2: the Shawn Jackson potentially back. Wad is one of those 229 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: guys on the defensive in the AFC. But getting a 230 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: player back of DeShawn Jackson's caliber, and it's not that 231 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: he's the best receiver in the NFL, it's how important 232 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: he would be to opening up everything else in that 233 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: offense and giving them a deep threat. But they don't 234 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 2: have that right now. It's vertically challenged, but it's some 235 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: to think about. I mean, it's going to be their 236 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: second playoff game. They have to get there. They'd have 237 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: to win this weekend too to get in. But if 238 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: they get in and they win a game and then 239 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: get him back and he comes in and he's able 240 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: to open up their passing game vertically, which will open 241 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: it up underneath and to those tight ends, it's an 242 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: interesting addition. But right now that offense is just it is. 243 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: It's hard to watch, and that didn't nothing about last 244 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: week change my mind in that sense. 245 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a struggle for the Eagles, all right. 246 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: For my first pick, I am going with the New 247 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 3: York Jets. They're one and a half point underdogs against 248 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 3: the Bills, team that's locked in to the five seed. 249 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: Looks like they're going to play their starters for some 250 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: undet amount of time. This is a game number one. 251 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: It's not really a road game for the Jets, so 252 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: I don't think you have to necessarily knock off the 253 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: max for home field advantage here, so you're still getting 254 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 3: a point and a half, you know, in a low 255 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: scoring game. The total in this game is hovering around 256 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: thirty six thirty seven. This is a game where if 257 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 3: the Bills are playing their starters for three quarters or 258 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: a half in a low scoring game like this, I 259 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: think anything can happen. I think it kind of turns 260 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: into one of those games like last week with Jet Steelers. 261 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: Granted the Jets were at home for that one, but 262 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: Jets still have a decently good run defense, even with 263 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: some injuries and. 264 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: Adam which is big. 265 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: You saw, yeah, right right, so you know, you know 266 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: they have some key guys back on defense, a defense 267 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: that was it was improving over the second half. Granted 268 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: they had a couple of you know, they got blown 269 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: out by Baltimore, but a defense that wasn't proving got 270 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 3: a little better in the secondary when some guys got 271 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 3: benched and whatnot, Tremaine Johnson being at the top of 272 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: that list. So I like the Jets in this spot 273 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 3: is short dogs. I think that they can. They have 274 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: a really solid chance of winning a close, wow scoring 275 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: game against Buffalo. Le'Veon Bell should get going. The Bills 276 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: have been with a weaker on run defense. We'll see 277 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 3: who they rest, if they rest anyone like Edmunds or 278 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: somebody like that. Obviously that would be big if they rested. 279 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: If Tradavius White was out for any portion of that 280 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: game for the purposes of Robbie Anderson to get going, 281 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: who's really come on lately as well. And then Jamison 282 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 3: Crowder was a guy who had what was it seventeen 283 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: catches or something like that in the first matchup, so 284 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: one point loss for the Jets I believe it was 285 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: in that first game or so. This is one where, yeah, 286 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 3: I just think the Jets should be able to keep 287 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: it close. And it's kind of a coin flip game 288 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: given the uncertainty. Bills opened as four and a half 289 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: point favorite, so the line went down, so I probably 290 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: anticipated and closing it like Bills by one. So happy 291 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: to get it here at point and a half. Again, 292 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: don't love the slate in general, but I do think 293 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: this is more of a coin flip and people realize. 294 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you have a big motivational mismatch here. 295 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: It's a team, you know, that's a Jets team that's 296 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: playing their division rival was a playoff team ten and 297 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: five who came back and beat them in week one. 298 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: You heard some interviews about a lot of the players 299 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: mentioning that, including Jamal Adams. Well, whereas Buffalo they have 300 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: no care for this game at all and they're pretty 301 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: much in the AFC it's Ravens locked at one. If 302 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: the Patriots win against the Dolphins, which you can presume 303 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: at home, they're number two, the Chiefs win, you know, 304 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: they played the Chargers, which is not as safe as 305 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: Patriots over Dolphins, but pretty safe to assume they're the three. 306 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: And that means that Texans would be the four. So 307 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: the Bills can really sit here this week and say 308 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: it was a pretty good shot. We're going to play 309 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: the Texans next week, so let's spend some time looking 310 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: at some Texans film and game planning for that game 311 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: instead of worrying about this meaningless Jets game. Sean McDermott, 312 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: you know, and that staff, they're intelligent and a very 313 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: good staff that I trust that they would do that. 314 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: And they've come out and said our all of our 315 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: starters are going to play, including Josh Allen, but they're 316 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: going to come out at some point so where no 317 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,479 Speaker 2: matter what, that will help the Jets. 318 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 4: What I'm hoping for here, I don't know if I 319 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: would if I'm necessarily. 320 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: Going to get in pregame, but if I don't, I 321 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: am hoping that the Bills, you know, Josh Allen, they 322 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: get the ball and they go down and they go 323 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: up seven to nothing, and I know that eventually their 324 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: starters are going to come out and I can grab 325 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: them live all right. For my second pick, I am 326 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: going with the Houston Texans. Now, this is a pregame podcast. 327 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: We're Tony our best bets that we like pregame. I 328 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: grabbed this plus six when it came out and it 329 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: was announced that Texans were going to play their starters, 330 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: it came down to about three and a half. Now 331 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: I grabed six. I still like it at three and 332 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: a half. Taking three and a half here for the contest. 333 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: And if you go back, a lot of people are saying, 334 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: why does Bill O'Brien, And I'm not a fan of 335 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: their stat but why does he say? Why are they 336 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: going to play their starters? Well, number one, you have 337 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: to at least play them to start because the seating 338 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: is still in flux, if you know. And this is 339 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: this is why the scheduling is so awful. This way, 340 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: if the Chiefs were to lose, but the Chiefs play 341 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: at one and they play at four, so there's a 342 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: chance that if the Chiefs lose at one, then the 343 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: Texans are playing for the three seed and the importance 344 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: of the three seed is that you avoid the Ravens 345 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: until potentially the AFC Championship game, and the Texans can 346 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: play you know, a Patriots team in the divisional round 347 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: that they beat handily instead of a raven scene that 348 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: beat them. I don't know, forty five something around that, 349 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: So that would be an incentive. So they would play, 350 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: and they would play. Their starter is probably the entire 351 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: game if that happens. If the Chiefs lose. Now the 352 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: Chiefs don't, I still trust that O'Brien will start as starters. 353 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: The reason of that. He's a Belichick guy, so he's 354 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: from the Belichick tree, and Belichick doesn't believe in resting 355 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: starters week seventeen, even when they have everything locked up. 356 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: But he's done that in the past. Now, you know, 357 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: if it's back and forth, I could see O'Brien trying 358 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: to play to win. I don't agree with it, especially 359 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: with Watson banged up. You know, he's his ankle isn't 360 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: great right now, and your offensive line has questions, so 361 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,359 Speaker 2: I'm getting out of your healthal But that's not his philosophy. 362 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: That's why he came out and said it's more of 363 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: a Belichick thing that he's emulating. So but if I do, 364 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: if they do get a big lead, I might take 365 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: a piece of this off in the anticipation that the 366 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: starters probably will come out, especially at the Chiefs one 367 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: at one o'clock. So these are some things to consider. 368 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: But you know, the Texans, they were plus three at 369 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: you know, they were plus three at Tennessee through the week. 370 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: Now you're catching them over a field goal at home and. 371 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: All the pressures on Tennessee. It's winning in and we 372 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: see it every single year. Winning in teams just come 373 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: out and flop. And one thing that just to point out, 374 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: there's you know, I'm going to have this in our 375 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: rite up. This this special team's advantage in this game 376 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: is pretty shocking and it cost the Titans the game 377 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: against Houston. They lost by a field goal. They had 378 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: a field goal blocked. They're special teams. If you just 379 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: look Deboad, the Titans are like twenty eighth, they're trending down, 380 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: they're on their fourth kicker, fourth kicker, they're eight of 381 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: twenty two from field goals in the year. 382 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: Like I have like like so I have a model, 383 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: you know, obviously doing fantasy for kickers, and it essentially 384 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: looks at like what a kicker's expected production would be 385 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 3: versus what his actual production would be and gives kind 386 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: of a number like one, like a ninety two is 387 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 3: is like about even, and then like you know, over 388 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: ninety two into the hundreds. You know, essentially you multiply 389 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: his expected points by that. And and the Titans kicker, 390 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: every kicker they've had, has been like the lowest one 391 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 3: in my model, like down into like the seventies. So essentially, 392 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 3: like however, many field goals plus extra points you're expecting 393 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: to score, and that's with you know, in fantasy you 394 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 3: get added points for like you know, forty yard fifty 395 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: yard field goals. They still get in the seventies like 396 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 3: percentage wise of those points. So they're like, it's just 397 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: they're bad. 398 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 2: But give me the Texans catch it over a field 399 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: goal here, and I also love a shot to maybe 400 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: buy that out of this if. 401 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 4: The Texans do get a lead. So give me the 402 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 4: Texans it over a field goal. 403 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: It's it's the right play on paper. It does make 404 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: me kind of nervous, just because Bill Ryan's teams sometimes 405 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 3: don't even show up when they have a full motivation 406 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 3: show up when they don't, right, Yes, all right, So 407 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: for my second pick, I guess it is a team 408 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 3: that has nothing to play for against a team that 409 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 3: does have something to play for. They are a favorite 410 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 3: though so not quite adhering to your Egles trend, but 411 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 3: going Broncos three and a half favorites over the open 412 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: Raiders here. 413 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 4: If they win, the Raiders have a shot there the playoffs. 414 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: If O'Brien does start as starters and the Ravens beat 415 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: the Steelers, which could happen, we'll get to that game 416 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 2: and the Raiders win and the Colts beat the Jags. 417 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: None of that is crazy. The Raiders are in the playoffs, 418 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: so they are playing. This is a must win for them, 419 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: So this game does fit the criteria. 420 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: Right and yeah, and so first of all, it's like 421 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 3: the Raiders beat the Chargers in La big whooped dee doo? 422 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: Who doesn't like? Who doesn't? You can never trust the 423 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 3: Chargers as a teaser when they're a favorite. It's all 424 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 3: like I'm waiting for your Philip Rivers underdog teaser piece today, 425 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: you know, fading the Raiders coming off this win that 426 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: was not as surprising as many maybe people think it was. 427 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: If you fade John Gruden historically versus the sub five 428 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: hundred team going back to two thousand and three, you 429 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: are twenty seven and nineteen and two against the spread. 430 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: That's fifty nine percent. If you fade the Raiders on 431 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 3: the road under John Gruden, you're ten and five against 432 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: the spread, you know, and these these new iteration of Raiders, 433 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 3: so since he started coaching them last year. And that's 434 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: even with the cover against the Chargers last week, so 435 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: still failing to cover in two out of every three. 436 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 3: If you fade Gruden after a win all time going 437 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 3: back to two thousand and three in our database, you 438 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: are sixty five percent against the spread. And then, of course, 439 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, you have all kind of the factors 440 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: working in your favor, with Broncos really having to play for, 441 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: the Raiders having everything to play for. They you know, now, Gruden, 442 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 3: it looked like Josh Jacobs was definitely going to play. 443 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 3: Now they're saying, you know, maybe maybe now we're not 444 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: gonna rush him back. We're gonna play with the best 445 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: guys we have. So I don't know if he had 446 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: a setback or if that's just you know, them Gruden 447 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 3: being coy or what. But that's also something to my 448 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: But uh, you know, I like the Broncos on this one. 449 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 3: I think it's tough to come into Mile High. Wait 450 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 3: in the year, you're you're a team that plays in Cali. Uh, 451 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: you know, you're kind of you know, you just picked 452 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: up a win against another team that plays in Cali. 453 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: Now you're going into Mile High. Totally different kind of game. 454 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 3: Physical Broncos team, team that knows that you have something 455 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 3: at stake, a team that you beat earlier in the 456 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 3: year to start the year that kind of left you 457 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: off on like a sour a sour note to start 458 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: the year. So revenge game aspect for the Broncos usually 459 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: like to target the team that didn't cover in the 460 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: first meeting in these divisional games as well. So a 461 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: lot of factors in favor of the Broncos, and I 462 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: just think they're a better team at this point. I 463 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 3: think the Raiders have kind of been out playing there, 464 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: you know, what their true talent level is all season. 465 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: That was the case. I remember earlier at one point 466 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: they had a winning record and a negative point differential, 467 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: which is kind of indicative of a team that's doing that. 468 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: But right now Bronco's playing solid football with Drew Rock. 469 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: You know, he hasn't been horrible. Their defense is still good. 470 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: This Raider defense is not good, so I don't think 471 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 3: they'll be They're the kind of team that really can 472 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 3: take advantage of a rookie quarterback and his experience because 473 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: they don't get a lot of pressure, and so he's 474 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: gonna be able to kind of complete the complete balls 475 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 3: to the Sutton Sean Hamilton that finally showing some life 476 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: after he was just invisible all year. Was supposed to 477 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 3: be a good player for the Broncos, but just invisible 478 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: through two quarterbacks Flacko and Allen now starting to show 479 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 3: some life. So I think the Bronx will be able 480 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: to move the football. On one side, I think the 481 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 3: Raiders will struggle a little bit against that defense and 482 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: struggle with the just being on the road. In my 483 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 3: high So give me the Broncos three and a half 484 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: point favorites. 485 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is still a It's still an 486 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: Oaklan team that went to the Jets and lost thirty 487 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: four to three. You know, it's still an Okle team 488 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,239 Speaker 2: that lost forty to nine to the Chiefs forty two 489 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: to twenty one to the Titans, blew a lead to 490 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: the Jags. I mean, this is what they've been doing 491 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: at home. Something else to keep in mind is, not 492 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: only do you have you know, the Jacobs in and 493 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: that's their offense. Their defensive sticks and everyone knows that 494 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: their defense is terrible. Their offense was doing some really 495 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: good things that it all started with a really healthy Jacobs. 496 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: But now you not only have a fully healthy Jacobs, 497 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: you lost Trent Brown, you know, Richie was hurt. So 498 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: that offensive line, which was also the key piece of 499 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: the offense, it was basically just pound Jacobs set up 500 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: some play actions, some short passes. With a really good 501 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: offensive line, you could be an efficient offense that way 502 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 2: when you have a star back. But that's not all 503 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: there now. So yeah, I agree for this contest, you 504 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: get three and a half. It doesn't matter if you 505 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: have three. But I'm waiting on three for anyone out there, 506 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: so I should probably get a three because again, this 507 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: is a situation where as the week goes on, you 508 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: start to hear this. You know, these old Raiders can 509 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: get the playoffs of win and you're going to probably 510 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: see a lot more Raiders money than Broncos. Money and 511 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: that three should pop eventually, like this line should be 512 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 2: four and a half or five five and a half. 513 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: And now it's just coming down because of who needs 514 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: to win, and then you get three, all of a sudden, 515 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: you're getting two points of value. I'm going to keep 516 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 2: this simple for my last pick. I'm betting this is 517 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 2: really on a gut. So he took the Broncos, So 518 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: I do like that one. I'll get in later to 519 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: I don't like the Redskins, who do qualify, but I'm 520 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: for this part. My last pick, I'm going with the Bengals. 521 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: And again for this contest, it doesn't when we do this, 522 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: it doesn't. Pushes don't count as wins, and it's the 523 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: only thing that matter. So I'm taking Bengals plus two 524 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 2: and a half. Now it's it's about to go to three. 525 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: It'll go to three. The whole world will be on 526 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: the Browns. And this is basically just a play on 527 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: what I've seen, what I've heard, and I just can't 528 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: envision the Browns showing up here. This is a team 529 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: that was in turnoe on the locker room. You see 530 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 2: them arguing, and I believe in them to put it 531 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 2: together for a game at home, in your home season 532 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: finale against the best team in the NFL against the Ravens. Well, 533 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 2: and they stilled a shot at the playoffs, like they 534 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: could have been the Raiders if they just beat the 535 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: Ravens and all those other things happened, the Browns would 536 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 2: have went to the playoffs by just beating the Bengals here. 537 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 2: But they pulled the Browns. But I think Kitchens is done. 538 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 2: He's lost it. He's lost the locker room. And they're 539 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 2: going too since there's gonna be seven to the tickets 540 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: are like twenty one dollars on stuff hump, there's gonna 541 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: be seventeen people here, and you know, I just think 542 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: that they're going to see them come out as flat 543 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: as you'd ever seen an NFL team. I think the 544 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: Bengals are little undervalue of the market because they went 545 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 2: through a stretch with Ryan Finley as their quarterback for 546 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: three or four games they average eleven points per game. 547 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: You know, since then, they've gotten you know, healthier at 548 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: tight end, they've gotten ross back, and then the big 549 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: one is Dalton, who could just throw it at least 550 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: downfield a little bit with Finley couldn't do so since 551 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 2: they were ravaging about eleven points per game with Finley, 552 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: you know, since Dalton's come back, they're averaging around twenty 553 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: two to twenty three points per game. They should be 554 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: able to run on the Browns. The Browns run defense, 555 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: I mean it really misses their defensive ends in general. 556 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 2: But the Browns run defense is horrid. I mean it 557 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 2: is beyond bad. And Mixing went for twenty three for 558 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: four catches for forty yards in the first meeting. The 559 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: Bengals just handed it off and ran for six yards 560 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: of carry. In the first meeting. They ended off thirty 561 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 2: two times right for one hundred and eighty yards. The 562 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 2: Browns also their backs should also have some success, by 563 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: the way, but I think the Bengals be able to 564 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: run it. They'll be able to and I'm just in 565 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: the Browns run defenses so bad, so I think the 566 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: Bengals abble moving on the ground. Daldon hit some plays, 567 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 2: but this is mainly I don't think the Browns show 568 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 2: up at all. Don't get off the bus in which 569 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: should be a just absolutely horrid environment. If you're at 570 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: that game, you couldn't pay me to go to that 571 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 2: game at this point. Bet against the Browns. It seems 572 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: it's like it's the play. It's always seems to be 573 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 2: the play. And I agree, I don't know what the 574 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 2: Browns motivations are. I mean, maybe there's some individual incentives there, 575 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 2: but that doesn't really help, you know, the team cohesion. 576 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 2: So h and then you have, you know, we know, 577 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 2: help a play call the hard play call either. 578 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we know guys like you know, oh, guy 579 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 3: like going to Beckham's not one hundred percent, you know 580 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: what I mean. So it's tough Nick Chubbs seeing what's 581 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 3: work in the passing game. 582 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: It's just I could see Beckham getting benched by Kitchens 583 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: after like arguing with them in the first quarter, like 584 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: stuff like that, Like they're arguing. People are arguing with 585 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: each other in this game in the first quarter. It's 586 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: just there's gonna be penalties galore. It's gonna be a disaster. 587 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: After evaluating millions some data in lead blanked and high 588 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: le gamble troying two thousands run vs. Cincinnati by two 589 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: one hundred points, fire worthless. 590 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: Let's see. So yeah, my third one, I don't know. 591 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: I go back and forth. I was thinking of going 592 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: with the Redskins. I took the the the Bucks, so 593 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 3: I'll stick with them in our in our draft, they 594 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 3: are it looks like a pick them right now. Falcons 595 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 3: coming in here again and this didn't work last week, 596 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: kind of fading the Falcons. But I just I just 597 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 3: think these teams are still pretty much even we match 598 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: at this point. Falcons going on the road, Matt Ryan 599 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 3: uh In that offense not quite as efficient in you know, 600 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 3: non dome settings, so they'll be outside in the outdoors 601 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: granted pretty probably good weather, but you know, just not 602 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 3: as effective at this point. They're just really jamming the 603 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: ball into Julio. Eventually, this is gonna get predictable. And 604 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 3: the Bucks have been playing better on the outside at 605 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 3: corner and we you know we've seen that with with 606 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: Deed and Carlton Davis h offering, you know, a step 607 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 3: up from what it was earlier in the year when 608 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: you know, Hard Graves was mixing in and all that. 609 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: So like the Bucks in a game that I think 610 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 3: it's more two teams pretty evenly matched. I know the 611 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: Bucks are without some weapons, but I think these two 612 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: teams are for the most part at this point in 613 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 3: the year that the Falcons missing Ridley and you know 614 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: whatnot evenly matched teams. Falcons on the road, give me 615 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 3: the Bucks here, Jameis Winston, giveth Jameis Winston take it away. 616 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 3: But I mean he's still you know, going out there 617 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: and throwing for three thirty with all these backups. So 618 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of in a similar situation to 619 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 3: the Falcons where they might get their yards by throwing 620 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: twenty times to Julio Jones. Jameis Winston was spread it 621 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 3: around to to Prashad and Watson and Howard and all 622 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: these guys, but the results is the same. Matt Ryan 623 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: hasn't been the most careful with the ball for most 624 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 3: of the season either. And again, I just I think 625 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 3: the Bucks defense is little better than people think. You know, 626 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 3: Houston had had some struggles last week, and a lot 627 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: of people didn't expect them to have, you know, struggle 628 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 3: against this defense. So you know, top two run, top 629 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 3: top run defense, and then that's that's gonna be key 630 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: because Freeman for the Falcons, Devonte Freeman has been really 631 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 3: stepping up of light in the pass game, but the 632 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: Bucks are also number two DVOA on defending running back passes, 633 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: which you know, if you win at Freeman a little 634 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 3: bit in the run game and the pass game. You 635 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 3: made the offense really one dimensional with with Julio Christian 636 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: Blake their other receiver. He has run. I believe it's 637 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 3: seventy four routes over the last three games have been 638 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: targeted once. So you're gonna kind of force the Falcons 639 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: to do some things either they don't want to do, 640 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 3: or you're gonna make a pretty one dimensional on the 641 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: road team that's underperformed all year. Dan Quinn probably his 642 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: last game, give me the Bucks here. 643 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 644 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: I think I disagree. 645 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: I still going to take into this game. I actually 646 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: do think it's worth an underlook because what you said 647 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: is right, and I've liked Bucks overs this year. But 648 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: in the last couple of weeks without Godwin and without Evan, 649 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: their offense obviously isn't the same. They're still gonna chuck 650 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: it a round, but they're playing, you know, a little slower. 651 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: And the thing is that their defense is trending in 652 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: the right direction. The Falcons defense is trending in the 653 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: right direction, you know. And the Falcons don't have Ridley 654 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: and they obviously lost to new earlier this year, So 655 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: I think both defenses, and you're right, Ryan last week 656 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: had I think one or two picks because he was 657 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: forcing it in a double coverage against you know, just 658 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: trying to get the ball to Julio Jones. But then 659 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: I look at it and the Falcons defense. It has 660 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: to be said, and I didn't think there. I was like, 661 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: maybe there's something to this over the year, But apparently 662 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: there is because once Quinn gave up play calling duties 663 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: as defensive coordinator, so they had they played eight games 664 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: before the bye, and they allowed two hundred and fifty 665 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: points before the buy. In those eight games, it's about 666 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: thirty two points per game. In the seven games since 667 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: they've allowed one hundred and twenty seven, it's about eighteen. 668 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: They've been a top five scoring defense, top five third 669 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: down defense. And look, they played the Saints twice. You know, 670 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: they played the forty nine ers. They played this Bucks offense. 671 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: When health the Bucks the only team that's blown them out. 672 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: They started one and seven. They're five and two since 673 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: to buy, so they have a little bit of revenge 674 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: from that Bucks game. Have put up thirty five in 675 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: that game. Godwin went bonkers, so obviously you don't have 676 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: him now, but it took them some time, I think 677 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: to figure out some things. I both could you know, 678 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: both the defenses are trending up. Their strength is in 679 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: the front seven, you know, so let's call it a wash. 680 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: And then do I say, you know, do I trust 681 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 2: Julio Hooper and Freeman or And then I look at 682 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: the Bucks and I say, oh, man, I don't know. 683 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: So that's that's like I know, James gonna spread around. 684 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 2: But just having those three pretty reliable options. And what 685 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: you said about the Bucks matching up with Freeman is right, 686 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: and their their front. 687 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 4: Seven is solid. But that's that is my concern at 688 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 4: the end of the day. 689 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: But I don't hate it. 690 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 3: This should be Bucks minus three, maybe Bucks minus two 691 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: getting a pick. So give me the Bucks. And again 692 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 3: you know, and went in doubt. Hey, dan Quinn, that's 693 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: that's one of my firdo, all right. So that does 694 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 3: it for our Sunday six pack. Stuck going with the 695 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 3: Giants plus four and a half, the Texans plus three 696 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: and a half, and the Cincinnati Bengals plus two and 697 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: a half. I'm going with the Jets plus one and 698 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: a half, the Broncos minus three and a half, and 699 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Bucks as a pick against the Atlanta Falcons. Now, 700 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: let's get into our favorite total of the week. 701 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: Stuck. 702 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 3: You started us off with the six packs, all jump 703 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: right into the total. Got a little off brand with 704 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 3: the Broncos in that last segment, going right back on brand, 705 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: I mean, can you guess what the total I am 706 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: picking this league? 707 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: It was the Ravens under or the Jets under. 708 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: Obviously the Ravens under. It's not because of the Ravens. 709 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 3: It's the Steelers. The Steelers unders seven in the row. Now, yeah, 710 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 3: I think it's seven games straight. They've hit the under. 711 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 3: The Steelers, who are top four defense, going against a 712 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 3: Ravens team that looks like they're going to sit Lamar Jackson. 713 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 3: Not only will Maar Jackson, but mark Ingram, who's in 714 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 3: the top five in touchdowns from scrimmage this year, has 715 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: fifteen touchdowns. So you're essentially removing who is the best 716 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 3: offensive weapons in the National Football League this year. 717 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: You know, arguably the best guard in the NFL. 718 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: Right, So, like, the biggest risk in this game is, 719 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 3: and that's always a risk you're willing to take when 720 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: you're betting unders in these kind of games, is you know, 721 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: defensive production kind of getting out of hand a little 722 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: bit or setting up short fields for the offenses and whatnot, 723 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,719 Speaker 3: which could happen. But you also have the Steelers who 724 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 3: wanted the quarterback that they're going to start, Devilon Hodges. 725 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 3: They don't. They wanted to bench him for quarterbacks that 726 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: they already benched and Mason Rudolph who got hurt. So 727 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 3: now they're talking about Paxton Winch will be the backup, 728 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: but Hodges will be on a short leave, so leash 729 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: excuse me, so we could see some of Wnch. So 730 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 3: this is just a mess of offense for both of 731 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 3: these teams. And it's no wonder that the Steelers have 732 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 3: been hitting the under then, uh, you know, mention this 733 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: on the pod I think it was last week, mentioned 734 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: it in the in the early write up for the 735 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 3: games we better early on Action Network dot com. But 736 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: the Mike tom Win has the most profitable coach when 737 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: the steen when his team goes on the road in 738 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: our entire bet Labs database dating back to twenty oh three, 739 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: over one hundred and twenty coaches included in that database. 740 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 3: The Tomlin road under sixty one and forty two seven 741 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 3: and oer this season, fifty nine percent hit rate all time. 742 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 3: That's you know, that kind of goes into the kind 743 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: of games that he plays. It kind of goes into 744 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 3: he's gonna get him, He's going to get him fired up. Hey, 745 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: we need to make the playoffs. Division rival played him 746 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: close last time. Not as on the spread as some people. 747 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: Some people like the spread in this game. I think 748 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: it could go either way, but don't see how these 749 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 3: teams score enough points to hit this total at at 750 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: thirty eight. And I like it especially it's it's still 751 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: floating thirty eight, thirty eight and a half. Just in 752 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 3: general all time dating back to two thousand and three, 753 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 3: the Mike Tom win over regardless of venue, home, road, whatever, 754 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: coming off win loss when the total is thirty eight 755 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 3: or more is ninety nine seventy and one. That is 756 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: a fifty nine percent hit rate as well. If you 757 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 3: bet on every one of those, you would have a 758 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 3: fifteen percent ROI, which is pretty solid. So did bang 759 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 3: An these Steelers unders all year? See no reason to 760 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 3: stop now, Yeah, I can't disagree with you. By the way, 761 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 3: I think the Ravens are still going to win this game. 762 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 3: It fits into that scenario. Now, the reason I didn't bet. 763 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 3: I'm waiting to see if this gets the three. If not, 764 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 3: I'm going to tease it. It's a teaser for the 765 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: teaser segment. But yeah, I agree it should be low scoring. 766 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: The only thing that could go wrong is, you know, 767 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 3: the Ravens are gonna They're just gonna run the ball, 768 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: and their defense is still you know, Brandon Williams is playing, 769 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: hurts a little bit in the run deep, but it's 770 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 3: not like the Steelers can really run the ball. I 771 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 3: was banged up again, but every time he plays a game, 772 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 3: he's one game totter and. 773 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: Will Fuller like, it's just they can only play one 774 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: game at a time, one game a month. One. Yeah, 775 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: you know, Earl Thomas isn't playing. But it's not like 776 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 2: the the the Steelers can throw it deep. So the 777 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: only concern, you know, is if turnovers. I don't know 778 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 2: if RG three, if they're just gonna go out there 779 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 2: and let him chuck. I assume they're just gonna run. 780 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 2: But if the Ravens decide to sit their corners, I 781 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: don't think they are. I think hardball is pretty candid 782 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: with who they are and aren't sitting. But if Harball says, Look, 783 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 2: Jimmy Smith's made of glass weekend. Our defense is all 784 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 2: based on our corner. So we're sitting Smith, Peters and Humphrey. 785 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 2: If that happens, I don't even know if the Steelers 786 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: can still throw in their backup the Ravens backupporters. But 787 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 2: the Ravens backup counters are bad. It's why their defense 788 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: sucked the first four weeks of the year. But yeah, 789 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a game where the Ravens just 790 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: want to sit run it. I think the Ravens defense 791 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 2: will be fired up. They want to, you know, end 792 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: the Steelers season. The crowd will be well, this is 793 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 2: a team that's won eleven games in a row, so 794 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: they don't want to end that. I think they're gonna 795 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 2: be motivated to win, even though they have their backups in. 796 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: This line is crazy. It was already at three. People. Listen, 797 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 2: the line was at three because everyone knew the Ravens 798 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 2: were going to rest their starters and that's where those 799 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: lines should be. Well, now it's the Steelers need to 800 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: win and they're playing the backups. Now you could get 801 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 2: Ravens plus three here. That's what I mean. Ravens are 802 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 2: gonna win by three in a Tucker Field goal. 803 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny, this kind of goes into isn't 804 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 3: John isn't Harbor the most profitable preseason coach as well? 805 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 4: And this is like the same type of the great depth. 806 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you think they're you think, oh, they're out there, 807 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 3: down and out there, they're definitely gonna lose. They're they're 808 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 3: sitting their starters, and it's like this team will still 809 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 3: play to win, and there's still a deep team and 810 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, they still have good special teams, which 811 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 3: in a game like this could move large. So I 812 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 3: don't think that the Steelers are gonna come out and 813 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 3: try to throw the ball downfield. You mentioned the teams 814 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 3: are going to play conservative in this kind of situation. 815 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 3: They don't want to have Duck Hodges that quarterback. They 816 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 3: made that pretty clear last week. So I don't think 817 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 3: they come out and just start chucking it down the fields. 818 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 3: It's James Washington, you know, just even if the Ravens 819 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 3: a arresting people. So yeah, I like the under. It's 820 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: thirty eight right now, got it at thirty eight and 821 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 3: a half. I think it's a play. It's a great 822 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 3: play at thirty eight or higher. 823 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 2: So all right, I'm going to for my total something 824 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: already mentioned and teased, and it was the Bucks Falcons 825 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 2: under I think that the Falcons offense is a little 826 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: easier to game plan for with basically just targeting Julio 827 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 2: Jones thirty times a game and there's really no one 828 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: else you have to worry about. The Bucks are smart 829 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 2: enough to do that, and you saw the Bucks do 830 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: that last week with Hopkins when Stills went out and 831 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: all it was left it was it was Hopkins and 832 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: then their return man who that Yeah, yeah, DeAndre Carter, 833 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 2: that's there was basically that's basically it. Who was a 834 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 2: sub I think a substitute teacher two years ago, I believe. 835 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: I've read that recently making like one hundred and fifty 836 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 2: dollars a day, So good for him. He's been okay 837 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: as a returnament too, But that was it. So like 838 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 2: they're they I think that they're capable. They've had some 839 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 2: issues on the back end, but they've been better. As 840 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: you said, they got rid of some guys and then 841 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 2: their villains have been playing a lot better. Actually, I'm 842 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: a big fan of Dean from Auburn, so I think 843 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 2: that they could slow down that passing attack, and the 844 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 2: same with the Falcons, like it's just you know, it's 845 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 2: there's there's no godwin, there's no evans. They're not gonna 846 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: be able to run the ball. Neither team's gonna be 847 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 2: able to run the ball. So I think it's late 848 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: season divisional under. Both teams are playing for nothing, so 849 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 2: there's a chance. Also, you just come out and one 850 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 2: of these teams just gets drilled and they are flat 851 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 2: from the start. So give me the Falcons bucks under 852 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 2: forty eight. 853 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a weird game, however you look at it. 854 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 3: So I don't hate that pick at all. 855 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 2: I think I mean outdoors sto, this isn't in the Dome. 856 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Windy, when you combine that win trend 857 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: of ten miles per hour plus which already hits out 858 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 3: a fifty six percent equipped with the divisional under trend, 859 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure the hit rate is something absurd. Our guy, 860 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 3: I think it's Mike Randall wrote it up because he's 861 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 3: taken the Chiefs under as well for that same reason. 862 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 3: So I think it's some absurd hit rate like in 863 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 3: the seventies or eighties, for like Windy divisional games late 864 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 3: in the year, so it's probably going to be an 865 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: ugly game one way or another. So yeah, let's go 866 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 3: now to our favorite teaser of the week. 867 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, six point teasers. 868 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 3: We're going to start this off with You're pick stuck. 869 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 3: And before we do that, I know one of the 870 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 3: teams are teasing is a team that going is going 871 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 3: against the team that we're going to dedicate the coaches 872 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 3: pep talk to this week again by popular demand, the 873 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 3: coaches pep Talk from the nineteen ninety four film Blue Chips. 874 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 2: No again, So we got to dedicate. 875 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 3: This one to the Steelers. Here from Coach Bell in 876 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 3: the nineteen ninety four film Blue Chips. All Right, boys, 877 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 3: we got a job to do now. 878 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 2: Goddamn it. 879 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 3: We're not going out there to make a good show 880 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 3: or just put up a good fight. We're going out 881 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 3: there to be the best goddamn team in the country. 882 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 2: Right now. 883 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, boys, you may not know this, 884 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 3: but I know it. There is the talent in this. 885 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: Room to do just that. 886 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 5: I'll tell them exactly what we're gonna do. I'll give 887 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 5: them our offense. I'll give them our defense, because it's 888 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 5: not what you do. Goddamn it, it's how you do it. 889 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 5: And we're gonna go nose to nose with him, and 890 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 5: you're gonna play better than you ever dreamed of, because 891 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 5: god damn it, that's what I demand of you. 892 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 3: All right, sex, So yeah, tell us why you're teasing 893 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 3: the Ravens and who else you got here? 894 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 2: Unreal? I mean, I thought the Ravens gonna be Ravens 895 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 2: and the pep talk is for the Ravens game and 896 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 2: it's not the wire this week. Don't worry people, The 897 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 2: Ravens will be playing the playoffs. I will make sure 898 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 2: that we have some good wire clips. 899 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 3: Swear the twice we will beat you longer and older? 900 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 5: Do you beat your long because you do not yet 901 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 5: to win for we do. 902 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I alread explained it like I 903 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 2: think the rage would be three point favors year with 904 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 2: everyone sitting And now this line's crossed the two, you're 905 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 2: getting two and a half. You can tease it now 906 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 2: up across the seven true wong teaser now crossing three, four, 907 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 2: six seven, no brainer. In a low scoring game that 908 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 2: are presumably a low scoring game where the total is 909 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 2: at thirty eight, it's making that tease even more valuable. 910 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 2: And then I'll use kind of the same logic with 911 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 2: the Jets teasing them up over a touchdown in uh, 912 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 2: presumably a low scoring game. This so it was a 913 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 2: thirty six and a half where the Bills will eventually 914 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 2: pull their starters playing for nothing, I think the Jets 915 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 2: will be the more motivated team. Uh, so give me 916 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 2: the Jets Ravens teaser. 917 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. I like the Jets as well, teasing them. You know, 918 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 3: I picked them in the six pack. I think that 919 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 3: they are a good teas as well. If you're not 920 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 3: quite sure how they're gonna come out, you know, as 921 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 3: far as covering the short spread, you can tease them 922 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 3: up to seven and a half. I think that's a 923 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 3: pretty solid bet there with the Bills potentially rest and 924 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 3: their starters for you know, a decent portion of the game, 925 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 3: because I don't see why they would leave them in 926 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 3: you know, more than a couple series to kind of 927 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 3: get them, you know, get them some work and get 928 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 3: to keep them in rhythm and then teasing. And this 929 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 3: worked out last week as well, teasing the Chiefs down. 930 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 3: So you know, I know it's always dangerous to go 931 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 3: against rivers and the Chargers, you know in these teases here. 932 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 3: But Chiefs defense been playing really well. That's something that 933 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 3: we haven't always seen in the past this year, very 934 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 3: good pass defense and you have that, you have Philip Rivers, 935 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 3: and listen, I think this is a game. It's week seventeen. 936 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 3: We've been hearing the whispers all year about Rivers, you know, 937 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 3: uncertain future. This could be a game where where Tyrod 938 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 3: Taylor gets some get some run. I could see them 939 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 3: pulling Rivers. I could see Rivers turning the ball over, 940 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 3: especially if the Chiefs get out to a lead and 941 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 3: the Chargers are in comeback mode. So like the Chiefs 942 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 3: teasing them down from eight and a half to two 943 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 3: and a half. I think they win by at least 944 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 3: a field goal. But they have the potential to pull 945 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 3: off the Charges as well, though that usually doesn't happen 946 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 3: when Rivers is on the road. But like the spot 947 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 3: for the Chiefs, So going Chiefs jets here for my teeth. 948 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 2: Yep, that's true. Wong with the Chiefs too, So don't 949 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 2: hate it all. 950 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 3: Right, let's get into our underdog money line parlot. 951 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: Turning good weekends into great weekends. 952 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 3: It's time for the money line parlay. 953 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm going back to the City that Never sleeps. I 954 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 2: already talked about it earlier. It fits my criteria. I 955 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: think the line is too high, so there's some value here. 956 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 2: The Eagles still have all the problems they've had before. 957 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,439 Speaker 2: This is the Giant Super Bowl, and I can even 958 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 2: envision Eli coming in for some random reason, could be 959 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 2: a Jones concussion, a Jones pick. Eli comes in and 960 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 2: goes sales off into the sunset with a game winning 961 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 2: touchdown drive to eliminate the Eagles from postseasons. Can touch 962 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 2: and assuming the win, because again in the NFC East, 963 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 2: you don't have to win games. They both Eagles could 964 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 2: lose and then the Cowboys, Crews and Eagles still get 965 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 2: to the playoffs. But I like the Giants here. I 966 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 2: think they win. 967 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 3: You know what, you know, I was going to go 968 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 3: with the Chicago Bears for some of the same reasons, 969 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 3: but why not, Let's just go to the Jets. Let's 970 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 3: just try to double up on Yeah, let's do it, 971 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 3: because I mean I like the Jets. I'm taking them 972 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 3: plus one point five, which means, I, you know, think 973 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 3: they have a pretty good shot at winning the football game. 974 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 3: And they actually have better moneyline odds than the Bears, 975 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 3: who are one point underdogs, and essentially even money on 976 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 3: the on the money lines, you got the Giants that 977 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 3: should pay out around five to one. You can go 978 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 3: to Action network dot com slash betting hyphen calculators to 979 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 3: calculate all types of parlay bets and expected value on 980 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 3: all your different kind of bets, so hopefully we can 981 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 3: double up on this New York, New York love, get 982 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 3: it right. Let's get into the best of the rest, 983 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 3: which are the games that didn't make it into any 984 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 3: other segment. Let's start off the seven and eight Bears 985 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 3: going to Minnesota to take on the ten and five Vikings. 986 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 3: The Vikings are one point favorites, eighty one percent of 987 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 3: the bets seventy three percent of the money on the 988 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings here stuck. Any thoughts on this one. 989 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 2: I can't believe I had backed Mitch Bortles against the 990 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 2: revenge ball and I had to do it once I 991 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 2: got the seven sent by numbers, and I can't believe 992 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 2: I did it. I'm still shook after Sunday night, after 993 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 2: that line got the seven, and I know the whole 994 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 2: world was on the Chiefs and and books needed more 995 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 2: money on the Chiefs. They knew, I mean they knew 996 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 2: they needed some money on the Bears. They knew that. 997 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 2: You know, Sharper people would take it at seven and 998 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 2: I fell into the hole. But anyway, I can't back 999 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 2: Mitch Portles here. I can't bet this Bears team. I mean, 1000 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 2: you want to sum up with the Bears team? Is 1001 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 2: this twenty nineteen Bears team fourth and twenty fourth. The 1002 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 2: end of that game, they throw it, they check it 1003 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 2: down for five Mitch Portles checks it down for five yards, 1004 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 2: and they had one guy who ran aro out longer 1005 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,240 Speaker 2: than it's fifteen yards. It's just sad. But the Vikings, 1006 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 2: look they're playing for nothing. They're locked. I have nothing 1007 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 2: to play for it the last week. They also have 1008 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 2: some injuries, so you're not gonna see Cook play. You're 1009 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 2: not gonna see Madison play. You might not see feel 1010 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 2: And play. Kendricks on the defensive side is not gonna play. 1011 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if we see Sean mannon and 1012 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 2: Cousins doesn't play. And you also have a very conservative coach. 1013 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 2: I mean, the Vikings, I kind of lean to the 1014 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 2: under here. I just got to see who's out on 1015 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 2: that Vikings defense. But I mean, at the end of 1016 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 2: the day, you're also still playing Mitch Bortle's in that 1017 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 2: awful Bears offense. But the Vikings should come out here 1018 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 2: and just run it with your boy who did nothing 1019 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 2: last week. My girl was so excited about him, Boon. 1020 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 2: It's just Sean Manning versus Mitch Bortles Week seventeen in 1021 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 2: a meaningless game. Yeah. 1022 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 3: So the home under under Mike Zimmer for the the 1023 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 3: Vikings twenty nine and eighteen. Then you have Mitch Trubisky 1024 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 3: in games with a total of forty four. Last the 1025 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 3: under is twenty two to ten, eight and four this season, 1026 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 3: Mitch Trubisky as a road underdog, and there's still an 1027 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 3: underdog as we record this nine and two towards the under. 1028 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 3: So a lot of trends kind of pointing where you're under. 1029 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 3: That's the play I would I would make it. 1030 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and let me we're recording this on Christmas Eve 1031 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,879 Speaker 2: because we love what we do. It's actually Christmas Day now, Yeah, 1032 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 2: Christmas two in the morning, so that's the time. Listen, 1033 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 2: that's the timing right now. And football doesn't sleep like 1034 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 2: my family and other my girl sonding like you have 1035 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 2: to work to them, like yeah, it's like still a 1036 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 2: regular football weekend, and like tomorrow is gonna be practice 1037 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 2: and you'll get updates on what the Vikings will do. 1038 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 2: So the latest update was from this afternoon on Christmas Eve, 1039 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 2: where it said the Vikings you know, may rest certain players, 1040 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 2: which means they will and you know that they're going 1041 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 2: to rest Cook and the ones that are banged up. 1042 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 2: Bike Simmer hasn't made a decision yet. That will probably 1043 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 2: come tomorrow and or Thursday, so keep an eye out there. 1044 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 2: That's why the line jipped. And you can assume that 1045 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 2: I think they're going to set a bunch, but you 1046 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 2: know they could. They might start cousins at a couple 1047 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 2: of the receivers for a couple of drives and then 1048 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 2: pull them. That's why the sign is one, you're not 1049 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 2: going to get a max effort for the biking. 1050 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 3: Oh No, we're getting We're getting some c. J. Hamm 1051 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 3: at halfback in this one. We're getting some Tyler what's 1052 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 3: his name, Tyler conklin at, We're getting all of it. 1053 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,280 Speaker 3: We're getting some Alexander Hollins. It wide out quand treadwell. 1054 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 4: With the Obisa Johnson, He's gonna get like thirty targets. 1055 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 3: Or it's gonna be b C. Johnson and with Kuwan 1056 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 3: treadwill like beat a coverage bus to to screw the 1057 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 3: the the under or something under. Yeah, it'll be It'll 1058 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 3: be brutal AFC South. We have a matchup between the 1059 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 3: seven and eight Indianapolis Colts and they five and ten 1060 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars. Jags getting three and a half points, seventy 1061 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 3: eight percent of the bets eighty five percent of the 1062 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 3: money on the Colts. The total is forty three with 1063 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 3: fifty six percent of the bets but only forty seven 1064 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,320 Speaker 3: percent of the money on the over stuck. 1065 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 2: What are we doing with this one? 1066 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,760 Speaker 4: I think, I mean Colts Jags. I have absolutely nothing 1067 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 4: for this game. 1068 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 2: The one thing I will say that I've written out 1069 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 2: is the Colts did come out and just wax the 1070 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 2: Panthers thirty eight six last week. They have a good staff, right, 1071 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 2: I trust their staff. It's not the most talented team, 1072 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 2: but that was the week after they were eliminated. So 1073 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 2: if I'm picking a team that I think is going 1074 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 2: to show up here in this awful dead flat spot, 1075 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 2: it's the Colts against the Jags team, that's just they 1076 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 2: had one miracle win and to come back win against 1077 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 2: the Raiders. Other than that, they just get getting their 1078 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 2: doors blown off every single week. You know. So, But 1079 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 2: at my laying three and a half with the Colts 1080 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 2: on the road here, probably not. You know, if you 1081 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 2: got it early with the Colts, probably a good bet. 1082 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 2: Now it's a complete pass for me. But the Jags, 1083 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 2: they don't show up Colts. That is run right down 1084 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 2: their throat all game. 1085 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 3: They have. 1086 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 2: Their run defenses is bad, Their linebackers are bad. They 1087 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 2: have so many injuries on that defense. Their offense is 1088 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 2: not bad. I mean, it's just a bad team. It's 1089 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 2: a game of two bad teams. This is what I 1090 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 2: was mentioning earlier in the podcast. You're going to these 1091 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 2: week seventeen games that you just go, oh, this is 1092 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 2: one of them. 1093 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 3: Well I got some. 1094 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 2: It's not. 1095 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I agree with you on the game. That's 1096 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 3: pretty much how I see playing out. Colts should be 1097 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 3: able to run. But I do have something on the total. 1098 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 3: Remember that in twenty fifteen they moved the extra point back. 1099 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 3: When you see a total of forty three, I just 1100 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 3: kind of a feush reference. The books really kind of 1101 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 3: want you to take the They want you to take 1102 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 3: the over. They set it at forty three, it probably 1103 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 3: should be lower than forty three. If they set it 1104 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 3: up forty four, then okay, then it's a little more 1105 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 3: you know, in play to go every way. But at 1106 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 3: forty three, the books are usually inflating it. Here under 1107 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 3: forty three. Since twenty fifteen, forty four and twenty two 1108 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 3: sixty six point seven percent thirty percent ROI covering by 1109 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 3: an average of three point five per game. So when 1110 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 3: you see these forty three is are usually just inflated 1111 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 3: numbers that really probably should be forty one. 1112 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 2: Forty three is a new key number like it used 1113 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 2: to be forty four, but now once because there's more 1114 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,839 Speaker 2: missed extra points. That's why forty three is now much 1115 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 2: more important since twenty fifteen, and why you're bringing that 1116 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 2: number up. 1117 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 3: Let's get into our next matchup, which is the three 1118 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 3: and twelve Washington Redskins, seven and eight Dallas Cowboys. You 1119 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 3: talked about it stuck Cowboys laying eleven sixty four percent 1120 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 3: of the bet sixty five percent of the money on 1121 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 3: the Redskins. The total forty four and a half with 1122 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 3: sixty eight percent of the bets and eighty three percent 1123 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 3: of the money. I mean, over, how do you feel 1124 00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 3: about this? And why don't you like the Redskins? 1125 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I was all set to go with 1126 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 2: the Redskins. This is the my spot, and especially with 1127 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 2: the Cowboys, a team you know, a big home favor too. 1128 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,399 Speaker 2: And where's this locker room? Is garried on his way 1129 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 2: out after last weekend's lacks of days ago effort. But 1130 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 2: there's a reason why I can't play this. A Number one, 1131 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 2: if even if we look at the Redskins offensive side, 1132 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 2: they have interest in the offensive line on the outside 1133 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 2: of receiver. Now, I mean, Geist is out. Their offense 1134 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 2: is not healthy, and you know, now you're down the 1135 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,240 Speaker 2: case keen. The Haskins is out. That's just the office 1136 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 2: side of the ball. But let's talk about the defense. 1137 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: And the reason I can't play this is because the Cowboys, 1138 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 2: at the end of the day still have three really 1139 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 2: good receiver and the best offense the NFL by some measures. 1140 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 2: They have three really good receivers and they have a 1141 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 2: quarterback that maybe is a little limited in how far 1142 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 2: you can throw it down the field, but he should 1143 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 2: be able to play complete pitch and catch maybe outs, 1144 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,879 Speaker 2: little drags, just pitch a catch all down the fount 1145 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,399 Speaker 2: Here's why the Skins are now down to their ninth 1146 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 2: and tenth quarterbacks cornerbacks from the beginning of the year. 1147 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 2: You have Dunbar and he was their best quarter by far. 1148 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 2: Danny Johnson just want to on IR yesterday Christmas Eve. 1149 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 2: Jimmy Mooreland, the rookie out of JAMU just went to IR. Recently, 1150 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 2: Stroman and DRC who are on the depth chart at 1151 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 2: the beginning of the year, they went to IR. Fabian 1152 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,320 Speaker 2: More now he's hurt. And then you have Josh Norman, 1153 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 2: who's just a healthy scratch because they don't want to 1154 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 2: pay him his incentives. Even though he's the second highest 1155 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 2: ped corner in the league. He doesn't play. Even though 1156 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 2: there's eight corners that are hurt. So it's just a disaster. 1157 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 2: It's now. They projected starting corners this week are Aaron Colvin, 1158 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 2: he was released by the Texans earlier this year, Cody 1159 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 2: Sends the Ball he was released by the Broncos early 1160 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 2: this year and he signed last week. And Cavon Webster. 1161 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 2: He did make the final cuts on the Saints was 1162 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 2: signed last week. That's two guys they signed off the 1163 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 2: streets last week starting and then they just signed two 1164 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,959 Speaker 2: undrafted players Breon Borders indeed, delaying off the practice squad 1165 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 2: from the Jags, who they say are going to get 1166 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 2: playing time. Just a disaster at corner. You know, the 1167 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 2: Atlantic Collins, who isn't known for coverage. He's dealing with 1168 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 2: an achilles injury. Monte Nicholson is not a great free state. 1169 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 2: So I just don't know how the Cowboys just played 1170 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 2: pitch a catch all the way on the field against 1171 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 2: these corners who not only off the streets under after guys, 1172 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 2: they haven't played together, they have no they don't, let 1173 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 2: mean they've what they're a week or two. So it 1174 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 2: is just a nightmare situation at corner. And if you 1175 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,720 Speaker 2: want evidence, because these were the guys that were playing 1176 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 2: last week. Daniel Jones last week twenty eight or forty 1177 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 2: two for three hundred and fifty two yards, five touchdowns, 1178 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 2: no picks. So that's what Danny Dives did against the Redskins. Now, 1179 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 2: the Giants have some good receivers. Daniel Jones has shown, 1180 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,359 Speaker 2: you know, some good things, but Dak Prescott and those 1181 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 2: receivers are much better. This is also indoors in Dallas, 1182 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 2: not outside in Washington. I mean, this could get really ugly. 1183 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 2: Amari Cooper could have eighteen catches for ninety four years, it. 1184 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 3: Doesn't matter after the fantasy season is over. And he 1185 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 3: screwed everybody over pretty much down in every playoff game. 1186 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 3: So but yeah, I agree. Clinton Dunbar was number one 1187 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 3: in Pro Football focuses cornerback grade, and. 1188 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 2: Their offense is all banged up too. At receiver of 1189 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,399 Speaker 2: an offensive line is coming on though. 1190 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 3: I like Steven Simms him McLaren ar. 1191 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 4: I guess who wasn't a practice today, McLaurin. 1192 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 2: So he's it's. 1193 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,840 Speaker 3: Christmas regardless Christmas. I want them to practice practice. 1194 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 2: Mclark got hurt through. Mclark got hurt though last week, right, Yeah? 1195 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: Is he? 1196 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 3: I don't think he's out though, is he? 1197 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah he's not. He's not ruled out yet. But he 1198 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 2: wasn't a practice at all today, and he he went 1199 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 2: down on Sunday. I'm just saying it's something to watch, 1200 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 2: you know. 1201 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 3: I mean, no, because no way do I want really 1202 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 3: the over might hit in this game just based on 1203 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 3: all of these things. I think because Keenum. I mean, 1204 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 3: I think, yeah for the nasks, just in the way 1205 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 3: that they can play with Keenum person, I agree. 1206 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 2: So but anyway, I agree, But there's just I just 1207 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 2: can't trust this Redskins defense. 1208 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 3: All right, Let's move on the twelve and three Saints 1209 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 3: going to Carolina to take on these five and ten Panthers, 1210 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 3: starting rookie Will Greer for a second career start. Saints 1211 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 3: thirteen point favorites, getting seventy six percent of the bets 1212 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 3: and eighty four percent of the dollars wagered. The total 1213 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 3: is forty seven. Could be some weather issues in Carolina, 1214 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 3: maybe some win, maybe some rain. Seventy one percent of 1215 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 3: the bets, eighty eight percent of the money on the underyear. 1216 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 3: Any thoughts on this one stuff? 1217 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Panthers are dead. Will Griers looked 1218 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 2: awful last week. He was lowest rated quarterback in preseason. 1219 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 2: Can't back him here. But I mean Carolina, so coaching 1220 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 2: change doesn't matter. This team's been just getting drilled in December. 1221 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 2: I mean, they lost to the Skins at home, then 1222 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 2: they lost by twenty to the Falcons. They did lose 1223 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 2: by six to the Seahawks, that's only because that's the rule. 1224 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:28,800 Speaker 2: If the Seaalks win, they have to win one possion. 1225 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 2: They were upyree the Seals wire by three touchdowns in 1226 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 2: that game and faint Yeah they lost then thirty eight 1227 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 2: six that the Colts. This team's dead. Wilgrist stinks. This 1228 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 2: passing gave stinks. Their run defense stinks. The Saints should 1229 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:42,879 Speaker 2: go out here and get the win. The line's probably 1230 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 2: a little inflated. I'm not going to lay thirteen here. 1231 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,720 Speaker 2: It is amazing that the Saints could win thirteen games 1232 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 2: and get the three seed, and we'll be hosting the 1233 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 2: Vikings by preparing for them right now. If the Packers 1234 00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 2: and the forty nine ers both win and and you 1235 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,840 Speaker 2: know it's it's bad because they say it's thirteen wins 1236 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 2: and you're not gonna get a buye. It's only happened 1237 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 2: one other time since two thousand and that ded to 1238 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 2: twenty eleven Saints, which might have been one of the 1239 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,920 Speaker 2: best offenses of this century. And they're one of only 1240 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 2: two teams average six point nine yards per player more 1241 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 2: since two thousand and They went. They ended up winning 1242 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 2: their wildcard round, went Division round, played to forty nine 1243 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 2: ers Alex Smith and then a thriller. They lost thirty 1244 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,479 Speaker 2: six thirty two. They took the lead on a seventy 1245 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 2: yard Jimmy Graam touchdown pass after Alex Smith took the 1246 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 2: lead for the Niners on this huge run, and then 1247 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 2: Vernon Davis caught a touchdown pass and the final seconds 1248 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,959 Speaker 2: of the States went bye bye and the deep NFC. 1249 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 2: It's brutal if you don't get a bye, and they 1250 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 2: might not at thirteen to three, they're underdogs for it 1251 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 2: to happen. I can't back the Panthers, but I can't 1252 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 2: lay thirteen here. It's just a little inflated. So it's 1253 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 2: a complete passwory. But will rereer and this team is 1254 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 2: just bad right now. 1255 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know the Saints, I mean they have 1256 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 3: to play the Vikings. It just it has to happen. 1257 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 2: So yep. 1258 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, actually the exactly the way that Fate planned it. 1259 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 3: Let's go to those Packers. They are twelve and three. 1260 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 3: They are going to Detroit to play the three and 1261 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,720 Speaker 3: eleven three to eleven and one, excuse me, Detroit Lions. 1262 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 3: Packers are laying twelve and a half fifty one percent 1263 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,880 Speaker 3: of the bet sixty three percent of the money on 1264 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,399 Speaker 3: the lines, the total at forty three, with fifty three 1265 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,839 Speaker 3: percent of the bets seventy one percent of the money 1266 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 3: on the over. 1267 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean this is I think this is 1268 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,280 Speaker 2: identical to the last game we just mentioned that Lions 1269 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 2: are kind of a mess right now, down to their 1270 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 2: third string quarterback. Just like the Panthers playing for nothing 1271 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 2: against the Packers team playing for seating on the road, 1272 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 2: you can't back. I can't back the home team here, 1273 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 2: but because the line's a little inflated, so but I 1274 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 2: can't back through it. 1275 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 4: So this is an easy pass for me as well. 1276 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 2: I will say. I mean, look, the Packers also in 1277 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 2: a short week, if they're a big win inflated line, 1278 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 2: I just you know, if you have to play this, 1279 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 2: you got to take the points, especially if it gets 1280 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 2: a thirteen or fourteen. It's ugly. But I will say 1281 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 2: the Packers, they completely shut down the Vikings last week. 1282 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 2: And I know Cook didn't play, but Kenny Clark, who's 1283 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 2: getting himself paid over the past month, has been playing 1284 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 2: like a man possessed and he's now healthy and he's 1285 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 2: actually starting to they abuse Garrett Briberry, their center. He's 1286 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 2: actually starting to cause some push in the center in 1287 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 2: the middle of that green Bay defense, which they didn't 1288 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 2: have earlier in the season. Something to keep an eye on, 1289 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 2: but this is probably a pass. The line is is 1290 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 2: a little inflated, but tough, tough game to get involved in. 1291 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 2: I think if you green Bay ass motivation by the 1292 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 2: way they win, get a bye, and they win, Seattle wins, 1293 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 2: get the one seed, that's nuts. 1294 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 3: I think. I think the play probably the more I 1295 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 3: think about it, is the under because you think that 1296 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 3: Detroit is this bad defense and they are bad defense. 1297 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 3: But Packers Jamal Williams banged up. I could see them 1298 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,919 Speaker 3: kind of, you know, doing what they normally do, which 1299 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 3: is get out to a lead and kind of slow 1300 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 3: play the game. Play it really conservative. You don't want 1301 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 3: to get Rogers hurt. You don't want to get any 1302 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 3: you know, you don't want to get Jones hurt. You 1303 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 3: don't want to get if Williams is even back, you 1304 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 3: don't want to get him hurt. So, uh, this is 1305 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 3: a game where I think the Packers would kind of, 1306 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 3: you know, try to just get out. 1307 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 2: Just get out to get out of dodge of all 1308 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 2: win and. 1309 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 3: If the line is inflated, yeah, it's it's you know 1310 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 3: that essentially helps the under because it's just you know, 1311 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 3: the Packers probably not winning on at you know, on 1312 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 3: median by as big of a margin as the line implies. 1313 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 3: So yeah, I under is the play. Now, let's go 1314 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,919 Speaker 3: to the Niners twelve and three at Seattle, eleven and four, 1315 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 3: Seahawks getting three points, Niners getting seventy eight percent of 1316 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,919 Speaker 3: the bets, eighty three percent of the money, the total 1317 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 3: at forty seven, fifty three percent of the bet, sixty 1318 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 3: three percent of the dollars on the over. 1319 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Kyle Shanning, I can't call running fourth 1320 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 2: to once another. Niners have to win this game to 1321 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 2: get the one seed. If not and the Packers win, 1322 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers are on the road, had to 1323 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 2: start the playoffs next weekend, either in Dallas or in Philly. 1324 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 2: So I mean this game to suth. Look, there's I 1325 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,439 Speaker 2: don't know who's playing running back, Marshawn. 1326 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 3: Lynch and Robert Turbin will join rookie Travis Homer in 1327 00:58:58,520 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 3: the back from Travis Homer. 1328 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what they're gonna be lying on this week, 1329 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 2: because Lynch, I think they won for the playoffs. But 1330 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 2: my dad is to be ready. He was just he 1331 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 2: was like handing out shots in the parking lot at 1332 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 2: the Raiders game of the weeks. 1333 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 3: That's how we play a normal he'd like run our 1334 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 3: test Henny a halftime good to go. 1335 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess yeah. I mean, they maybe 1336 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 2: don't use him this week. But look they lost, I mean, 1337 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,440 Speaker 2: losing Chris Carson hurts. I mean, they were just so 1338 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 2: banged up at running back. They lost Melvin Gordon. I mean, 1339 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 2: and this team's we've called him. You know, they've been 1340 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 2: fraudulent all year long, and it showed last week. The 1341 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 2: biggest difference here is, you know, look it's Russell Wilson 1342 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 2: at night in primetime at home. They're gonna have a shot, 1343 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 2: and he's gonna give them a shot. But the biggest 1344 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 2: difference between this time and the time that they played 1345 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 2: last when the Seahawks beat the forty nine ers in 1346 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 2: overtime in San fran earlier this year, is that George 1347 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 2: Kittle is playing. And if you want to look at 1348 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 2: the weakness one of the weaknesses of many of the 1349 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,440 Speaker 2: Seattle defense, it is number one against the run and 1350 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 2: number two over the middle of the field, which is 1351 00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 2: where Kittle lives. And look, if you look at the 1352 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 2: forty nine ers, they're rush their rush offense. Let's just 1353 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 2: look at it from yards per play. They're averaging four 1354 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 2: point six yards per carry. It's ninth in the NFL. 1355 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 2: It's pretty good, top ten, but without Kittle. Two games 1356 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 2: without Kittle, one of them was against the Seahawks. But 1357 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 2: in those two games, and one of them was against 1358 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 2: the Cardinals, not necessarily the best run defenses in the NFL. 1359 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 2: Without Kittle those two games, forty six carries for one 1360 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one yards. That's two point six yards 1361 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 2: per carry. With Kittle four twenty eight for twenty fifty 1362 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 2: six four point eight that'd be top five in the NFL. 1363 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 2: And Seattle's allowing four point eight yards per care that's 1364 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 2: twenty eighth in the NFL. And no matter what advanced 1365 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 2: metric you look at, they're not great against the run. 1366 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 2: They also don't get a lot of pressure. But with Kittle, 1367 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 2: not only is he a great run blocker, he also 1368 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 2: demands the attention of your linebackers and your safeties, and 1369 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 2: you can't uses you can't dedicate as much attention to 1370 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 2: the run. So the forty nine ers should have a 1371 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 2: lot more success running the ball, and I don't know 1372 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 2: how good the Seahawks run defense is going to be. 1373 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 2: And that is the weakness of the forty nine ers defense. 1374 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 2: It's not a glaring weakness, but they're so solid gets 1375 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 2: the pass because they get so much pressure and their 1376 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 2: secondary is solid and now healthy and they can just 1377 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 2: sit back. They don't blitz. They don't blitz, and they're 1378 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 2: one of the lowest blitzing teams in the NFL, and 1379 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 2: they're the highest pressure rate teams the NFL. Really helps 1380 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 2: the secondary out that's pretty talented as well. So I 1381 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 2: think the forty nin Ers are the better team. They'll 1382 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 2: be able to run the ball, I think a lot 1383 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 2: more successfully than the Seahawks end than the forty nine 1384 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 2: Ers did in the first meeting. I think that will 1385 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 2: ultimately be the difference. The wildcard is Russell Wilson magic, 1386 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 2: but I think the forty nine ers find a way. 1387 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. And speaking of Kittle, as we've done the past 1388 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 3: few weeks, we are running a new Fade Revel promotion 1389 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 3: with our friends at Points Bet Sportsbook. This week, our 1390 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 3: colleague Darren Revel is taking George Kittle over seventy and 1391 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 3: a half receiving yards and points bet is boosting the 1392 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,439 Speaker 3: under seventy and a half to plus one hundred from 1393 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 3: minus one point fifteen. Personally, I think Darren is on 1394 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 3: the right side. The Seahawks according to our friends at 1395 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 3: Football Outsiders giving up sixty seven point eight schedule adjusted 1396 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 3: yards per game two tight ends. That is the third 1397 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 3: most in the league. And we know George Kittle is 1398 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 3: one of the best tight ends in the league. But 1399 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 3: always fun to fade our guy Darren Ravel. Maybe make 1400 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 3: him get think. 1401 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 2: We could just lose by like a half a point 1402 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 2: in like crazy fashion. It's it's pretty wild, So you know, if. 1403 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 3: You're interested in fading Revel, just follow the link in 1404 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 3: the episode description for more details. Let's get into the 1405 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 3: last game, and the forty nine Ers Seahawks is Sunday 1406 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 3: night football, but just save the Arizona Rams game four 1407 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 3: last because we don't actually have a line on it. Cardinals, 1408 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 3: of course five nine and one coming into this one 1409 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 3: against the eight and seven Rams eliminated from playoff contention, 1410 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 3: but we don't know if Kyra Murray is going to 1411 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 3: go any thoughts on what you'd make the line stuck 1412 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 3: if Murray's in or Murray's out, or anything that could 1413 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 3: potentially help people that want to bet this one later 1414 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 3: in the week. 1415 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to short some people. I will 1416 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 2: just say Pats a minus fifteen and a half against 1417 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,640 Speaker 2: the Dolphins. Also, I don't think we covered that one. 1418 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah there. Look, the Pats are playing to secure 1419 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 2: a two seed and a buye, which is so important 1420 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 2: for them. They need a buy They need to work 1421 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 2: out some kinks. They have their own problems. They don't 1422 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 2: want to be trying to play three games to get 1423 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. I think they come out and 1424 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 2: drill the Dolphins. It's an awful matchup for the Dolphins. 1425 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 2: Dolphins can't run the ball. It's patrick That offense has 1426 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,960 Speaker 2: been passing it. Well, well, you can't pass it against 1427 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 2: the Patriots, and the Dolphins are the worst defense in 1428 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 2: the NFL. I think the Pats come out of here 1429 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 2: focused and drill them. I mean, the first game was 1430 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 2: forty three to nothing in Miami. I don't know if 1431 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 2: it'll get that bad, but I'm thinking about laying the 1432 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 2: fifteen and a half. In regards to the Arizona La Ga, 1433 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't there's so many things to consider here. 1434 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 2: With Murray, I think Ramsey's also sitting for the Rams 1435 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 2: with an injury, so I don't know. I mean, I 1436 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 2: would probably make it around seven, which is where I 1437 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 2: think it will probably, I mean without Murray, maybe tennish, 1438 01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be between seven and ten. 1439 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 2: Huntley came in last week, which didn't help my over 1440 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 2: bet in that game. I mean, they were, they had 1441 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 2: a lead, and they were playing to win. He was 1442 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 2: four of nine for forty nine yards. I imagine that 1443 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 2: they're going to try and you know, they can be 1444 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 2: able to run the ball much against the Rams. But 1445 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 2: if Ramsey's out, I mean Hunley, I'll trust him to 1446 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 2: throw the ball. And you know, if Hill and Ramsey 1447 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 2: are out, that's where you would be able to attack 1448 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 2: this Rams defense. And I don't know if Hunley can 1449 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 2: Ury could, So I think that the difference between the 1450 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 2: two in this game might be more substantial than some 1451 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 2: other games, but probably a clear stay away from me 1452 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 2: if unless the line is wildly off from where I 1453 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 2: have it. But I got to take more into Huntley 1454 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 2: and who's who's in and who's out for the RAMS defense, 1455 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 2: because that will ultimately I think make the difference. 1456 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's not a game that I think most 1457 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 3: people were too excited about anyway. So let's uh, let's 1458 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 3: wrap it up with our Survivor Pick of the week. 1459 01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 3: One pick. 1460 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 2: Chance to advance. 1461 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 3: Survivor somehow managed to survive for sixteen weeks. I don't 1462 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 3: know how. I took the Broncos last week, coumbled a 1463 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 3: little bit early on in that game, but ended up 1464 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:11,880 Speaker 3: beating the Lions. 1465 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 6: This week. 1466 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 3: I would go, and we don't know the Lion in 1467 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,880 Speaker 3: this game, but that doesn't matter for Survivor. Congrats. If 1468 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 3: you're still alive in your Survivor pool, go to Rams here. 1469 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 3: You know Kyler Murray banged ut. Who knows what's gonna happen. 1470 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 3: Loved this matchup for the Rams. The Cardinals really don't 1471 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 3: get that much pressure. It's the home game for golf, 1472 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 3: a lot more comfortable there. Tyler Higgley's playing at an 1473 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 3: elite level right now at tight end, and of course 1474 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:39,919 Speaker 3: the Cardinals. 1475 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 2: Are the that's bad news. That's for the Cargos. 1476 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,360 Speaker 3: Best matchup you can possibly have if you're an opposing 1477 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 3: offense for tight end. So this is a spot where 1478 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 3: the Rams came out and I think they won thirty 1479 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 3: four to seven on the road. I don't think that's 1480 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 3: a coincidence. I think this is just a good matchup 1481 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,760 Speaker 3: for the Rams. Lost season for them unfortunately not making 1482 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 3: it back to the playoffs to defend that Super Bowl 1483 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,560 Speaker 3: tight you know nfcitle, But I think they comfortably handle 1484 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 3: business even if Kaiwer does end up playing. So that's 1485 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 3: who I go and see if we can go seventeen 1486 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 3: to know here stuck any other picks if you didn't have, 1487 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,120 Speaker 3: if you can't choose the Rams here, who are you 1488 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 3: going with? 1489 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 2: Well? I mean you got to figure that most people 1490 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 2: have used most of the you know, good teams, and 1491 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,240 Speaker 2: the problem with the week seventeen is you also have 1492 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,440 Speaker 2: some good teams that some decent teams that are not trying. 1493 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 2: So you know a team that you definitely or probably 1494 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 2: haven't used yet there's you might have used them once 1495 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 2: because they only have one win. But if you're still 1496 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,840 Speaker 2: alive here, you probably haven't used the Bengals. And if 1497 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 2: you're out of other teams, look at the Bengals. I 1498 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 2: don't think the Browns show up. 1499 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 3: I mean, go out in style. If you're gonna go out, 1500 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 3: if you made it this far, but that wraps it 1501 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,560 Speaker 3: up for another edition of the Action Network podcast, Week 1502 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 3: seventeen NFL Betting. Addition, be sure to follow Stucky on 1503 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 3: Twitter at Stucky two and me at Chris Raybond. You 1504 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,960 Speaker 3: can also follow us by the same handles on the 1505 01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,720 Speaker 3: Action Network app. You can see all our bets, you 1506 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 3: can track your own, so go download the app if 1507 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 3: you don't all ready have it for live odds, in 1508 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 3: game win probabilities, and again the ability to track every 1509 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 3: bet that you make. It's been a good year. 1510 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 4: It's twenty twenty for playoff talk. 1511 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 3: We'll be back in twenty twenty. We'll be back next week. 1512 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 3: We'll be talking the playoffs. We'll be talking all the trends. 1513 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 3: We'll keep our little contest going. Happy Holidays. We appreciate 1514 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 3: you for if you are a longtime listener, for sticking 1515 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,440 Speaker 3: with us all season. If you're a new listener, keep 1516 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 3: listening again. We'll be back for the playoffs to break 1517 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 3: down these matchups a lot more in depth because we'll 1518 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 3: have more time to spend on each one. Good luck, 1519 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,920 Speaker 3: Happy holidays, Let's get this money. 1520 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 2: Happy to hear, go back up, Go Raders. 1521 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 7: Merrick ray Man shouted treatment nine. Merrick bet should it? 1522 01:07:54,680 --> 01:08:02,440 Speaker 2: Treatment brought me and down on the ring for Christmas. 1523 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 6: You feel like I'm in the or die. I'm feel 1524 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,920 Speaker 6: mighty mind yo. I got muted on. 1525 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 2: My ready jourd. We're finished talking