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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in to the second hour of The Clay Travis

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Speaker 2: and Buck Sexton Show, and we have this hour joining

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Speaker 2: us the Secretary of the Interior, Doug Bergen.

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Speaker 1: We have got a lot to talk to him about.

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Speaker 2: Secretary and Interior has very important job in this administration

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Speaker 2: and it has to do with our natural resources, oil, gas, minerals,

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. Some interesting policy implemented or in the

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Speaker 2: process of being implemented by this Trump White House that

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Speaker 2: we want to address with you because there is, as

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Speaker 2: you can tell, a major, major focus from Trump and

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Speaker 2: everybody in his top inner circle on getting the economy

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Speaker 2: running on all cylinders. Here and what we had four

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Speaker 2: percent growth or something. I mean, the numbers are looking

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Speaker 2: great for the quarter. I just like, what was the

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Speaker 2: growth number I was seeing? It's very Yeah, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Here's National Economic Council Director Kevin Hasset. We had this

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Speaker 2: on that. You know what, let's hear from the uh

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Speaker 2: Let's hear from the National Economic Council Director. This is

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Speaker 2: cut one place I.

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Speaker 3: Think that there are two forces that are sort of

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Speaker 3: pushing down and then one force that's pushing up. The

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Speaker 3: forces pushing up is the GDP growth is through the roof.

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Speaker 3: Even with a revised down GDP. Now we're looking at

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Speaker 3: four percent growth into the end of the year, three

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Speaker 3: percent for the year as a whole, despite the fact

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Speaker 3: that we had a really negative first quarter with Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: And so that's the positive effect.

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Speaker 3: The negative effects are when there's a productivity boom, then

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Speaker 3: maybe you can make the same amount of stuff with

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Speaker 3: fewer workers, since that might reduce labor demand. And then

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Speaker 3: the other thing is that there's a pretty big decline

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Speaker 3: in the labor force because of illegals leaving the country,

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Speaker 3: and so the break even job number is quite a

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Speaker 3: bit lower than it was under Joe Biden, when there

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Speaker 3: were people you know, you know, basically coming across the border,

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Speaker 3: willy nilly, and so I think that you should expect

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Speaker 3: slightly smaller job numbers.

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Speaker 2: Clay, I mean, it wasn't it wasn't a bad bunny

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Speaker 2: concert he's given there. But this stuff really matters. This

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Speaker 2: is meaningful to all of us, and the economic numbers

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Speaker 2: are looking good. We'll get back into this and certainly

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Speaker 2: talk to the Secretary of the Interior, Doug Bergram. He's

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Speaker 2: a billionaire, isn't he. Yeah, I know something about money. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's he knows about money. He's a guy. Guy's got

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Speaker 2: a lot of money. But he really does know about

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Speaker 2: what he's what he's trying to implement with policy, and

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Speaker 2: how the administration is moving things forward. We'll get into that,

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Speaker 2: but right now, the the dominant news story still across

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Speaker 2: most most platforms, most mediums is this Nancy Guthrie kidnapping story.

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Speaker 2: Now I understand it. First of all, it's there's something

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Speaker 2: particularly horrific and hits home about a senior citizen member

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Speaker 2: of your family just disappearing from their home, being disappeared

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Speaker 2: from their home in something like this, it does have

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Speaker 2: that clay that this could happen to anyone feeling, which always,

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Speaker 2: you know, always hits harder. I think when people say,

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Speaker 2: oh that this could have been my mom or my grandma,

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Speaker 2: and so that is getting a lot of attention. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Savannah Guthrie is a prominent news personality, and so that's

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Speaker 2: getting a lot of attention. Here is the late we

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Speaker 2: didn't play this yet, right, just making sure the latest

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Speaker 2: video here is Savannah Guthrie released a video speaking well

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Speaker 2: to the American people, but also trying to reach I

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Speaker 2: suppose the hostage taker or takers. This is cut to

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Speaker 2: play it.

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Speaker 1: We received your message and we understand.

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Speaker 2: We beg you now to return our mother to us

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Speaker 2: so that we can celebrate with her. This is the

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Speaker 2: only way we will have peace. This is very valuable

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Speaker 2: to us, and.

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Speaker 4: We will pay play.

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Speaker 2: What's your sense of all of this? I mean, guys,

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Speaker 2: just to be clear, Usually we give you we give

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Speaker 2: you hard facts, news, and then we analyze. In this case,

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be some speculation because there's so few facts

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Speaker 5: So it's been nine days, and I'm gonna be honest

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Speaker 5: with you. The fact that kidnappers in this day and

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Speaker 5: and not be tracked down. I'm stunned by all of this.

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Speaker 5: I did a bunch of reading over the weekend to

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Speaker 5: this as I could be. My speculation, Buck is it

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Speaker 5: has to in some way be an incredibly detailed, planned

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Speaker 5: inside job. And you say, Okay, Clay, what's your evidence

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Speaker 5: for that. They turned the cameras off on her house somehow,

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Speaker 5: They somehow got it turned off in the time before

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Speaker 5: they took her. Somehow they were not captured anywhere in

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Speaker 5: the neighborhood. Remember, like take a step back, Buck, when

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Speaker 5: the Idaho killings happened, they were able to go back

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Speaker 5: was in that area. They also were able to use

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Speaker 5: all these different cameras from the area because it was

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Speaker 5: reality is there's relatively few people on the streets around

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Speaker 5: two am. I understand that they say that this location

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Speaker 5: where she was kidnapped from is fairly fairly rural in

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Speaker 5: some way, meaning it's not as if your one house

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Speaker 5: cars would have even been on the road at two

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Speaker 1: I would think there's a gap.

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Speaker 5: They kind of got it, caught some stuff at a

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Speaker 5: I'm sure they're reviewing all these different cars but there's

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Speaker 5: just not going to be that many cars on the

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Speaker 5: able to get in and out. I don't think and

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Speaker 5: kidnap her. There's not going to be that many cell

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Speaker 5: phones pinging in that location. Now, they could turn them off,

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Speaker 5: but it feels very strongly planned. And I come back

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Speaker 5: to something that I said right off.

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Speaker 1: The top, and I could be wrong about this.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that most people would have any idea

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Speaker 5: who Savannah Guthrie's mom is. So I understand that she's

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Speaker 5: wealthy and she's somewhat famous. I think people who knew

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Speaker 5: that nance see Guthrie herself is so famous that people

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Speaker 5: I don't think most people who are famous we know

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Speaker 5: who their moms are. I'll give you just random you

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Speaker 5: you know who Bad Bunny's mom is. I've got no idea.

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Speaker 5: Do you know who?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 5: You know unless the mom is like I mentioned Jade

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Speaker 1: Uh, sometimes the mom.

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Speaker 5: Is a part of the story of the son or

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Speaker 5: daughter and that makes them famous. It doesn't appear that

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Speaker 5: that was the case here. So to me, this is

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Speaker 5: someone local that new Nancy Guthrie very well knew that

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Speaker 5: get millions of dollars and get away with it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's very likely.

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Speaker 5: I just I and I understand they're asking for I

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Speaker 5: think it's six million dollars in crypto, uh to get

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Speaker 5: her back. I'm sure Savannah Guthrie would pay any dollar

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Speaker 5: The crypto, I understand, is relatively untraceable and that's why

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Speaker 5: the way that she speaks in those videos, she's a

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Speaker 5: And I know that a lot of you have a

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Speaker 5: ton of takes on this. This is the you know

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Speaker 5: coming up tonight. The whole thing is very very strange

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Speaker 5: to me, and it feels like it must be on

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Speaker 5: some level an inside job somebody who was close to

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Speaker 5: that they did it. Does that make sense to you

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Speaker 5: you worked in the CIA. I'm just trying to piece

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Speaker 5: the most logical analysis to me.

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Speaker 2: I think your analysis has sound. There's just so little

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Speaker 2: and this is not something that is thought only by them.

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Speaker 2: It's not like new thinking. But in this day and age,

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Speaker 2: if you if you kill someone that you know, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna get caught. Now will you be convicted, that's another question,

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Speaker 2: but they're gonna know that. It's it's very hard to

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Speaker 2: kill someone that you have contact with, that you have

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Speaker 2: This is why you know, any kind of like a

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Speaker 2: the actual killer because if you had no contact beforehand anyway,

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Speaker 2: go for the cell phones, obviously, and I'm not like.

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Speaker 2: I'm just a civilian who you know, watches CSI like

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Speaker 2: everybody else. But you know, they go for your cell phones.

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Speaker 2: They go they see who pings on towers, They go

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Speaker 2: through surveillance footage, and then they look for evidence at

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Speaker 2: the scene and primarily clay. That's going to be obviously

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Speaker 2: behind DNA hair, any kind of skin cells? Obviously, fingerprints,

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Speaker 2: But fingerprints are pretty easy to not leave behind if

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Speaker 2: you know what you're doing, but DNA it's a lot tougher.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that's why if you remember in the

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Speaker 2: But when uh, what's his name, Marky Mark Mark Wahlberg

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Speaker 1: This is great?

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Speaker 5: Am I the only person in America who hasn't seen

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Speaker 5: The Departed? I actually I've never.

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Speaker 2: Wanted you were you were in the would I would

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Speaker 2: wager the ten percent of this audience who has not

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Speaker 2: seen The Departed. I bet ninety percent of our audience

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Speaker 2: has seen The Departed. That's that's a I think it

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Speaker 2: won Best Picture, didn't it. Not that that really means

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Speaker 2: it's been out. I know it's been out a while.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of those movies came out when my

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Speaker 2: Anyway, at the end of The Departed, Sorry, Clay Mark

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Speaker 2: Wahlberg shows up and he's dressed in a like a

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just wanted to first, I want to say

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Speaker 7: And then I wanted to comment on the halftime show.

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Speaker 7: You know me, and it's the two hundred and fifties

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Speaker 5: But he's a coward Clay. He's thirty, by the way,

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Speaker 5: he do it for thirty. I'd do it for thirty.

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Speaker 5: But he's not doing what's in the best interest of

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Speaker 5: that's racist of you, Roger. The only way he loses

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Speaker 5: He's just doing whatever he can to keep his job.

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Speaker 5: Maybe he needs a little bit more testosterone in his life,

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Speaker 5: Maybe he needs a little bit more chalk. Maybe then

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Speaker 1: Let's have a super Bowl that everybody can love.

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Speaker 5: Maybe let's even have a Super Bowl halftime performance in

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Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like a crazy idea to me.

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Speaker 5: And maybe if Roger Goodell would sign up for Chalk,

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Speaker 1: And if he did, he could go to chalk.

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Speaker 2: I guess we're not going to have any bad bunny

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Speaker 5: Which here's the truth, Buck, I wouldn't even know if

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Speaker 5: I just I don't even have any idea what the

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Speaker 5: Like I remember that the only part of that show

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, that's that's that is that is a

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Speaker 1: That's a bless your heart, Take Clay, that's a bless

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Speaker 5: At least it has a beat that is positive and uplifting,

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Speaker 5: and I'm going to sing about it for forty eight

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Speaker 2: I just I can't believe you throw boys to men

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Speaker 1: I don't even know it's the end of the road.

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Speaker 2: What what? It makes everyone very sad as we get

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Speaker 2: I think it's just really bad heavy metal, like a

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Speaker 1: So this is where I'm gonna sound like you.

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Speaker 5: I if it's super loud, I just I really don't

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Speaker 5: Like I don't need like the whole death metal thing.

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Speaker 5: Doug Bergham is going to join us now, and I

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Speaker 1: We miss your secretary.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you, sir, Thank you for being here. Let's let's die,

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Speaker 2: Let's tale. Thank thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Well, we try to do a good show. H tell

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Speaker 2: us this the We got a lot of questions for you.

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Speaker 2: First up, US oil production, Drill Baby drill. The Trump

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Speaker 6: That's the common sense policy of President Trump and drill

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Speaker 6: price as opposed to discounted price for oil. And then

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Speaker 6: back at home, we've dropped the price of gasoline at

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Speaker 6: the pump urse. We've done that dramatically in one year,

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Speaker 6: with the record number of drilling permits going out, working

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Speaker 6: hard make sure we get the price of electricity down,

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Speaker 6: which was driven up by these crazy climate extremist policies

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Speaker 6: and in parts of our country. So that's one area

446
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Speaker 6: where we've really been really, really delivered on. But we've

447
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Speaker 6: got to keep driving. We got to keep driving forward

448
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Speaker 6: to make sure because we're in a we're in an

449
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Speaker 6: AI arms race with China, and the country with the

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Speaker 6: most electricity is going to win. Uh and we can

451
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Speaker 6: be ahead in chips, we can be ahead in in software.

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Speaker 6: But if China's crushing us in terms of how fast

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Speaker 6: they're bringing electricity online, we've got to We've got to

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Speaker 6: get back to America being able to build great.

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Speaker 4: Things, build them quickly.

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Speaker 6: And the energy energy dominance is also about critical minerals.

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Speaker 6: We can talk about that too, but I mean that's

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Speaker 6: another area where we're we've got to make up a

459
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Speaker 6: bunch of lost ground. Not just drill, baby drill, but

460
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Speaker 6: we got to mind baby mine in this country.

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Speaker 4: Uh And and of course why does this matter to

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Speaker 4: your listeners?

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Speaker 6: If you're the car you drive, the food you eat,

464
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Speaker 6: the clothes on your back, the hole you heat, everything,

465
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Speaker 6: everything has got an energy component in it. When we

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Speaker 6: bring the price of energy down, we're bringing down the

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Speaker 6: price of everything. And when we do it American with

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Speaker 6: American energy that improves, that's bringing prosperity at home and

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Speaker 6: piece abroad.

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Speaker 4: Is the core to the agenity.

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Speaker 6: You can't separate national security or a national economy from

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Speaker 6: energy policy. President Trump has got it dialed in and

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Speaker 6: totally got it figured out and got a great team

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Speaker 6: across the board working on it.

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Speaker 2: One thing, one thing, Secretary Bergham, I want to ask

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Speaker 2: you before I hand over Clay.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was really interesting.

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Speaker 2: That there's a fund that the US, so the Trump

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Speaker 2: administration has established to invest in critical minerals and you know,

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Speaker 2: we talk about rare earth and we talk about these

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Speaker 2: things on the policy side. Can you discuss a little

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Speaker 2: bit about this, I mean, what is the criteria to

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Speaker 2: invest here? What would these investments hopefully do? And we

484
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Speaker 2: expect this is like this five billion dollar fund alongside

485
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Speaker 2: Orion Resource Partners. I thought this was a really interesting

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Speaker 2: story that I read recently in Bloomberg.

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Speaker 6: Well, yes, yes, yes, it is Buck and it's again,

488
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Speaker 6: when you've got the deal maker in chief and a

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Speaker 6: business guy running the country, then you can come up

490
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Speaker 6: with creative solutions. This is the parallel to what most

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Speaker 6: Americans would know that we've got a US Strategic Patroleum Reserve,

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Speaker 6: where we had a bank of oil that was owned

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Speaker 6: by the federal government to create a buffer in case

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Speaker 6: of a time of crisis. We had nothing, you know,

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Speaker 6: relative to US strategic critical minerals reserve, and so we became,

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Speaker 6: like most countries in the world, completely dependent on China,

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Speaker 6: whether they're doing the mining at home or mining abroad

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Speaker 6: like in Africa or Indonesia.

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Speaker 4: They were doing the refining of those minerals.

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Speaker 6: Back in China, they control eighty five to one hundred

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Speaker 6: percent of the refining, and then they can control the

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Speaker 6: export of those So last year they threatened to stop

503
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Speaker 6: the exports of the things that we need to You

504
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Speaker 6: don't build a car, build a cell phone, all of

505
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Speaker 6: these things. We were within weeks of shutting down car

506
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Speaker 6: manufacturing in the US because of China's stranglehold on these minerals.

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Speaker 6: In part because we've we've spent decades deciding that we

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Speaker 6: were going to get out of the mining business in

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Speaker 6: this country, and we've got to get We've got to

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Speaker 6: get back into get back into mining mining in America.

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Speaker 4: So what say, okay, get back into mining. Uh, I

512
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Speaker 4: open a mind, I'm going to do refinding.

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Speaker 6: China comes in, dumps a bunch of that particular metal

514
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Speaker 6: on the market, crushes the price. Uh, and you know

515
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Speaker 6: you're bus You're out of business. This has happened over

516
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Speaker 6: and over in America and around the world where China

517
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Speaker 6: was just using their their illegal trade tactics to try

518
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Speaker 6: to crush new startups and new entries to maintain their

519
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Speaker 6: their their grip on this So this thing that you're

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Speaker 6: describing in combination with the Club of Nations where this

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Speaker 6: last week hosted at the State Department, Uh, we had JD. Marco,

522
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Speaker 6: Chris Wright, Howard Lutting, Scott Bessett, myself, everybody involved in

523
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Speaker 6: this thing across the whole of government. Over fifty nations

524
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Speaker 6: here wanting to join a Club of Nations where you

525
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Speaker 6: could trade freely around critical minerals amongst each other with

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Speaker 6: a price floor that would then allow the capital to

527
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Speaker 6: start flowing back in this industry protected from the illegal

528
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Speaker 6: activities of the trade side, but on the project called

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Speaker 6: Project Vault, which is.

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Speaker 4: The Critical Minerals Strategic Reserve.

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Speaker 6: That was again President Trump, Hey, can we do this

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Speaker 6: without tax dollars?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Can we go faster if we don't have to

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Speaker 4: go through Congress? Yes?

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Speaker 6: So XM Bank putting up ten billion dollars you mentioned

536
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Speaker 6: to Ryan and others. There's other companies that are stepping

537
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Speaker 6: in providing equity against that, and so close to twelve

538
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Speaker 6: billion dollars that will then begin the foundation of over

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Speaker 6: sixty critical minerals who have sixty different stockpiles for all

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Speaker 6: of these minerals that we need to keep our industry going,

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Speaker 6: whether it's defense tech, regular tech, or whether it's a

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Speaker 6: you know, the refrigerator in your home, or things you

543
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Speaker 6: need for new construction, your or your power drill.

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Speaker 4: You in your shop that your hand power drill. Those

545
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Speaker 4: have got magnets that have critical minerals. So these are everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Your cell phone's got forty two different critical minerals in it.

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Speaker 6: So this is a great, great solution to ensure that

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Speaker 6: America has economic security and can't be can't be controlled

549
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Speaker 6: by China controlling the export of these minerals.

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Speaker 5: Secretary of the Interior Doug bergamon with us. Now, so

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Speaker 5: many people every time we talk about the price of

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Speaker 5: oil and gas, I say, where I live in Tennessee, Hey,

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Speaker 5: the price of oil and gas is down significant when

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Speaker 5: I go to the gas station. And then inevitably we

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Speaker 5: hear from so many people who have the misfortune of

556
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Speaker 5: living in blue states that price of oil and gas

557
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Speaker 5: still very high where they are.

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Speaker 1: I do think this is instructive.

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Speaker 5: How much of let's say, let's pick California, how much

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Speaker 5: of California and what Californians have to pay for oil

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Speaker 5: and gas in their state is a function of the

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Speaker 5: policy choices being made in California. And how would those

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Speaker 5: policy choices differ, say with Texas or Florida or Tennessee

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Speaker 5: in terms of just what it costs to drive around

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Speaker 5: in your car every day.

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Speaker 6: Well, a great example of clay with California. But it's

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Speaker 6: it's easily on any given day, it could be fifty percent.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it could be double.

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Speaker 6: I mean if you're paying you know, two dollars and

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Speaker 6: forty nine cents in some other state. With common sense policies,

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Speaker 6: we have someplace in the country that hunder two bucks

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Speaker 6: now for for regular gas California regularly five bucks. You

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Speaker 6: can go to parts of California, southern California.

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Speaker 4: Where it's over you know, six or seven and then

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Speaker 4: you say, how is that happening?

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Speaker 6: Well, these policies, which are driven by climate extremists, take

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Speaker 6: California right now. California is actually a national security threat.

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Speaker 4: It's policies to the whole country because they have they

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Speaker 4: import to thirds.

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Speaker 6: Sixty three percent of California's oil is being imported from

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Speaker 6: foreign countries as supposed to be provided from places you

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Speaker 6: know in America by a pipeline, so by ship. The

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Speaker 6: number one country that's importing in California right now is Iraq.

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Speaker 6: They're importing that oil. They used to have forty refineries,

585
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Speaker 6: now they've got eight. Two of the eight, Chevron and

586
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Speaker 6: Valero announced plans to close, so they're going down to

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Speaker 6: six refineries.

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Speaker 4: So now I'm shipping my oil in from Iraq.

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Speaker 6: Around the world, paying for that transportation to get it here,

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Speaker 6: and then when it gets here, now I can't find

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Speaker 6: a refinery because they've shut They're shutting down in choking

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Speaker 6: refineries with their with their regulations. This is the state

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Speaker 6: Clay that has the most number of internal combustion vehicles

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Speaker 6: in the country. They have more internal combustion vehicles than

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Speaker 6: any other state even has vehicles. And they were trying

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Speaker 6: to ban these things and they're the number one thing.

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Speaker 6: So when they say we're going to ban them, they're

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Speaker 6: just driving the cost up on their consumers.

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Speaker 4: Which is why the two things.

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Speaker 6: That states, the two states like New York and California,

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Speaker 6: which are poster child's for climate A streams, they're leading

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Speaker 6: the nation in out migration. I mean, people can't afford

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Speaker 6: to live there. And there's a whole wave of the

604
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Speaker 6: next generation of industry is going to be driven by

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Speaker 6: the price of electricity because you aren't going to build.

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Speaker 6: You wouldn't build a flour mill one hundred years ago

607
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Speaker 6: in some place where we cost three times as much.

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Speaker 6: What you need to manufacture intelligence is you need electricity.

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Speaker 6: And if electricity costs three times as much, if your

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Speaker 6: energy costs for transportation or double, no one's going to

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00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 6: build manufacturing plants there where I got to know, load

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Speaker 6: it into a truck and pay double for my fuel

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Speaker 6: that I do in some other state. So not only

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Speaker 6: people are out migrating now, capital is not flowing into

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Speaker 6: those states. And they used to be like, oh, we're

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Speaker 6: New York, you know, we're California, They'll just come here.

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Speaker 4: No, it is reversing out of those two states.

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Speaker 6: So these policies are going to create a tail of

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Speaker 6: like the tail of two cities.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be a tale of two approaches.

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Speaker 6: And you know, red states with common sense energy policies

622
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Speaker 6: are beginning to see the benefits right now in terms

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Speaker 6: of the of growth and low energy costs and capital investment.

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Speaker 5: I know it's early in twenty twenty six, but you

625
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Speaker 5: have a great background in business in addition to running

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Speaker 5: much of American energy policy. Right now, what do you

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Speaker 5: think the GDP is going to look like in twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty six as the economic policies of the Trump administration

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Speaker 5: come online, What should we expect.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think you're going to see numbers that we've

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Speaker 6: not seen before. Many people in their lifetime haven't seen

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Speaker 6: numbers north of five.

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Speaker 4: And that's you know, possible.

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Speaker 6: We could have been we could have hit there this

635
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Speaker 6: fall already if not for the Schumer you know shut

636
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 6: down in DC where you shut down the government for

637
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Speaker 6: forty plus days.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's an impact.

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Speaker 6: But when you lower taxes and lower regulation and then

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Speaker 6: and then speed up permitting, I mean people don't talk

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Speaker 6: about permitting. There's a trillion and a half dollars with

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Speaker 6: a T that's been approved by boards of directors, by companies,

643
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Speaker 6: by small businesses that said, I want to invest this

644
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Speaker 6: capital in America to a project that's going to help

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Speaker 6: move things forward, and they can't get their permits done.

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Speaker 6: So we've got this like giant log jam of capital

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Speaker 6: that could also flow into the flow into the economy

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Speaker 6: in the terms of capital investment, you know, meaning new factories,

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Speaker 6: new infrastructure, things that we need that benefit and raise

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Speaker 6: the productivity of everybody. That, so I'm expecting the numbers

651
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Speaker 6: to be big, but then when they come, it's just

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Speaker 6: going to be like your gas prices. The GDP in

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Speaker 6: some states, you know, could be seven, you know, six, seven, eight,

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Speaker 6: and then you're going to have places like New York

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Speaker 6: and California where it might be two percent because because.

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Speaker 4: Of their high energy costs. High energy costs slow down

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Speaker 4: economic growth.

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Speaker 6: So you know, when we say the GDP of the country,

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Speaker 6: it's an average of the whole country.

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Speaker 4: Again, individual results may vary.

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Speaker 6: Check your ZIP moved to a place where they've got

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Speaker 6: common sense policies.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. We appreciate all the work.

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Speaker 5: Look forward to talking to you again down the line,

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Speaker 5: and thanks for the time today.

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Speaker 6: Well, and I don't want to impose, but we got

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Speaker 6: one thing on sports. I'm not a Seattle Seahawks fan,

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Speaker 6: nor a Patriots fan. I grew up in eastern North

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Speaker 6: Dakota where we were had to suffer through the trauma

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Speaker 6: of the Vikings losing four Super Bowls and quick succession.

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Speaker 6: But there were two North Dakota State University recent graduates

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Speaker 6: on that offensive line of Seattle, opening it up for

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Speaker 6: Walker to be the MVP. And you know, shout out,

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Speaker 6: shout out to those Byson for the great job upfront.

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Speaker 1: No doubt.

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Speaker 5: Didn't the Bison just announce that they're joining a new conference.

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Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, for going forward, I think they're

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Speaker 5: going to be stepping up play a little bit. If

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Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken, have been very successful over the years

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Speaker 5: with North Dakota State.

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Speaker 6: Well yes, you know, with the eleven eleven championships in

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Speaker 6: the last fifteen years and FCS. They're moving up to

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Speaker 6: FBS and they're joining them out in the West. It

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Speaker 6: was announced to announced today, I think officially rumored yesterday.

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Speaker 4: But you know, here we go.

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Speaker 6: So it's gonna be be fun traveling New Hawaii, New Mexico, Wyoming, San.

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Speaker 4: Jose State, and many more. They think they're gonna.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be a great a great step up, great conference,

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Speaker 6: and and some new rivalries to be established.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. It's gonna be fun to watch. Appreciate the time.

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Speaker 4: Okay, thanks you, Clay, Thank you Buck.

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Speaker 5: That is Secretary of the Interior, Doug Bert, great guy.

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Speaker 5: I had a breakfast with him recently out here in Nashville.

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Speaker 5: Really really impressed. All right, let me hit you with

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Speaker 1: We come back. Here's a promise.

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Speaker 5: We'll get to your calls, so we appreciate all the

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Speaker 5: people who are waiting. We'll also get to your talkbacks

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Speaker 5: and we'll talk about voter ID.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 5: What I think is a super positive result that of culture,

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Speaker 5: notwithstanding the bad bunny performance that we saw in particular,

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Speaker 5: a Budweiser ad I don't know if we've hardly talked

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Speaker 5: about this buck. The Washington Post largely has eliminated about

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Speaker 5: a third of its stat app and more. All that

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Speaker 5: still coming next

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