1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Combine twenty twenty four. We lead things off with the Goat, 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: one of our good friends, the voice of the Houston Texans. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Seems like we were here just yesterday talking about Week eighteen. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Mark Vandamir is our guest here on Radio Row here 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: at the Combine. 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: Mark always a pleasure, man. 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 3: I love talking to you guys. I love coming to Indianapolis. 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 3: I really do you know. I know this has been 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 3: a house of horrors for the Texans for a long time, 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: but maybe not lately, right, but I always love coming 11 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: to India. It's a great city. I always tell people 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 3: the people who designed, for lack of a better word, 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: this city knew exactly what they were doing. Let's make 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: it an event town. 15 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: Yep. 16 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: We had the five hundred, Let's build the RCA Dome 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 3: with the Hoosier Dome, Let's build events around that, Let's 18 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: bring everything in. 19 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 4: And they did a heck of a job. They still do. 20 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: And it seems like like we talked about just yesterday 21 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: that Week eighteen game. I don't know about you, and 22 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: certainly you know on the losing end of things now 23 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: you're missing the playoffs. That was a really fun atmosphere 24 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: in terms of Colts Texans. I don't think it gets 25 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: any better than that. And the good news is, from 26 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: a parody standpoint, you're gonna have that matchup now for 27 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: the next hopefully eight nine years. 28 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we saw what Anthony Richardson did in the 29 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: opener between these two teams, in the opening game of 30 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: the series. I mean, he went nuts early and then 31 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: he leaves the game and we thought, oh, Gardner Minch 32 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 3: is in. This could be handle a bowl no as 33 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: he played really well and the Colts won that game. 34 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 4: And we saw what happened in the finale. 35 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: But you know, we've talked about this, Matt that throughout 36 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: the years, the Colts are just the Texans nemesis. But 37 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: for some reason in Indy, the Texans are now five 38 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 3: and four in their last nine and I know one 39 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: of those is the weird Davis Mills comeback game where 40 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: you don't want to win that dude, Well it turns 41 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: out you do because look what happened in the draft, 42 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 3: and you know, history changed and here we are. 43 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely so what was the most enjoyable part of this season? 44 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, off air we were talking about, you know, 45 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: the the Sean Watson stuff and how kind of you know, 46 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: in a valley you were, the Texans were, and then 47 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: just the peaks and light at the end of the tunnel. 48 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: Now with CJ. Stroud, you've been doing this since two 49 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: thousand and two Voice of the Texans. Where is this 50 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: past year rank in terms of just most enjoyable season? 51 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: I think it's the most enjoyable season I've ever had, 52 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 3: and I've done all of them. It look twenty eleven 53 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: was great because we made the playoffs for the first time, 54 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: and that was really special. It's hard to outdo the 55 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: first of anything, right, and. 56 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 4: It took a long time. 57 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: That was the tenth season in Texans history, and you 58 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: know how this goes. I love the NFL because you 59 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: could have a sub five hundred season, but Week five 60 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 3: you might have had this tremendous win that you could 61 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: talk about for a long time. We've had a lot 62 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 3: of sweet wins and right now we're celebrating Andre Johnson 63 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: getting into the Hall of Fame, and that brings that 64 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: whole era back for me where they didn't win as 65 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: much as they wanted, but they had some really great 66 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: games along the way, and it's great to relive those. 67 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: But this season, to me, was the best because Demiico 68 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: comes back to coach the team. You get CJ. Stroud 69 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 3: and it turns out he's this marvelous quarterback. All these 70 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: down to the wire victories. He proves that he's a 71 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 3: clutch player, and the other young players play so well. 72 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: Offensive Rookie of the Year, Defensive Rookie of the Year, 73 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: and Andre getting into the Hall of Fame at NFL Honors. 74 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: I mean, that was another great night to be a 75 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: bookend to the draft night euphoria really when they moved 76 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: up to take will Anderson. 77 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 5: You know, it's funny you mentioned that first matchup in 78 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 5: Week two I believe it was, and I remember coming 79 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 5: out of that game and I said, okay, you see 80 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 5: where the Texans are. You can see the growth because 81 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 5: that was that was kind of the game where CJ. 82 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 5: I think he threw for over three point fifty and 83 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 5: you were like, okay, he can put the ball wherever 84 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 5: he wants. So you know at some point that's going 85 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 5: to click. And then you flash forward to what we 86 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 5: saw in Week eighteen. And you know, one of the 87 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 5: things that I always go back to is where we 88 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 5: were a year from right now, we're talking about Week eighteen, 89 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 5: which you talked about Davis Mills. I mean, you talk 90 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 5: about parody in the NFL. That just sums it up 91 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 5: right there. 92 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does that when an experience that was and 93 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: I love any kind of win, but it felt odd 94 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: that night. 95 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: Did you really want the second pick? Wouldn't you rather 96 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: control the draft? 97 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: Right? 98 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: But I'd never fault the team for trying to win. 99 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: A game, exactly. 100 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: And everybody got on players, everybody got. 101 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: On Lovey Smith for going for two in that one, 102 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 3: and I said, no, no, no, no, he did not 103 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: go for two because we're gonna stick it to the Texans. 104 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: I know him fired or whatever, you know. The narrative was, 105 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: that's not it. He went for two because he said, 106 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: we're gonna end the game right here, win or lose 107 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: fifty to fifty shot whatever the percentages are. Because my 108 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: rebuttal to those who think he was it's a conspiracy, 109 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: was trying to win, to screw the Texans out of 110 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 3: a draft choice. I say, look, if he kicks it, 111 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: it's tied, you're going overtime. You have just as much 112 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: a chance to win that, all right. They just converted 113 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: fourth and twenty or whatever it was, so with a 114 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: touchdown of thirty plus yards. So anyway, it took you 115 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: to the draft. It took you to CJ. Strott, honestly, 116 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: and you know how these things are, and people ask 117 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: us all. 118 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 4: The time, who's your team gonna draft? We don't really know, 119 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 4: right and that we did not know. 120 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: I figured they were gonna take Will Anderson Junior at 121 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 3: number two and deal with the quarterback position later. Maybe 122 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: move up, try to get you know, hand In Hooker 123 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 3: or somebody like that. I didn't know what they were 124 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: gonna do. But when they took Stroud, Okay, here we go. 125 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 3: We got the quarterback, and then they move up to 126 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: take Will Anderson Junior, it. 127 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: Was why'd you think it was gonna be flip flopped? 128 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 4: I just didn't think they were gonna take Stroud. And 129 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: I don't know. 130 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: I was buying into all the outside noise maybe and 131 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 3: inside they have zip lock mouths on this stuff. They 132 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 3: don't want people to know. They don't want people in 133 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: the building to know. I think people in football ops 134 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: a lot of people don't really know what they're actually 135 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: thinking because they don't want it to get out. 136 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: And that's the right thing to do. 137 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: Don't let it get out, don't let your plans get out, 138 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: especially if you're trying to make that deal or you 139 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: think you're gonna make that deal to move up to 140 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: number three and get Will Anderson Jr. 141 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 5: Now Here we are preparing for twenty four and the 142 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 5: Texans completely different spot from where we were a year ago. 143 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 5: You got a late first round pick, but you got 144 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 5: your two key pieces in place, with the quarterback coach 145 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 5: clearly one of the best edge rushers up and coming, 146 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 5: with Will Anderson being named Defensive Rookie of the Year, 147 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 5: you got a lot of money to spend. Where is 148 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 5: the ceiling on what this offseason means, because clearly right 149 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 5: now it is win now mode for sure. 150 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 4: From where you were a year ago. 151 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: It is I think to field a team as good 152 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: as the one you had last year. 153 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 4: You have a lot of work to do. 154 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: You have over thirty free agents on this team, and 155 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: you do have some all right, So you don't have 156 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: these marquee like first day, oh my gosh, they're gonna 157 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: make you know, King's Ransom contract type of free agents. 158 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: But you have Dalton Schultz, he played a big part 159 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: of this turm. Devin Singletary, who is the leading rusher, 160 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: had his best year ever, better than any year he 161 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 3: had with the Bills. You have Jonathan Grenard, great edge rusher, 162 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: twelve and a half sacks. What's he going to get? 163 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 3: You know, you have all these things to think about 164 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: and numerous others. All right, Sheldon rankins asan ridgeway. You know, 165 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: you have to fortify that defensive front if those guys 166 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: aren't coming back, So a lot of questions. Steven Nelson 167 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: one of your starting corners, So you do have a 168 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: ton of war to do, but they have the cap 169 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: space to deal with it, and there are many different 170 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: directions you could go with all this. So it's exciting 171 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: for us and as it is for the Colts fans 172 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: to see how they're going to put together the twenty 173 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: twenty four Colts, how the twenty twenty four Texans are 174 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: going to be constructed, because you guys know, all right, 175 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: so you went to the divisional round. Great to get 176 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: back there is excruciatingly difficult, right. 177 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 6: No doubt. 178 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: I mean, you might make the playoffs and lose the 179 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: first game. You might not make the playoffs. You might 180 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: go nine to eight, which would still be a winning season. 181 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: But you know how this league is. You know the 182 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: Texans got there fast in the Demigo Ryans era. And 183 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: how the expectation is, oh, yeah, we're going on the 184 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: super Bowl next year, right, Well, it's not that easy, 185 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: as we all know. 186 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: Well, not only do you have cap space, but some 187 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: of your key players that you have in to play 188 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: premium positions, you have those positions solidified, but they're also 189 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: on rookie contractsje Stroud, tang. 190 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: Dell, Derek Stingley. 191 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: How does that factor in the aggressiveness and the urgency 192 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: that the Texans have either in the draft or in 193 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: free agency. 194 00:07:59,120 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: That's a great point. 195 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: You know, when you bring in free agents, high priced 196 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: free agents, it always works, right, you know, we've seen 197 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: it not work more often. More often it doesn't work 198 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: than it works because you have to sort of put 199 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: together the culture very quickly. Now, last year they had 200 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: a lot of free agents. The guys I mentioned, Schulz, Singletary, Rankins, 201 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: these were all on one year deals. Right, Jimmy Ward's 202 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: still with the team. He's not a two year deal. 203 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: That's good, But so you're thinking, I got to put 204 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: together a culture. 205 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: They did last year. It worked. 206 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: They have to do the same thing this year with 207 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: whoever they bring in they all got to fit together. 208 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: But I think one thing that really makes things fit well, 209 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 3: great head coach, you know so far Tamik O'Ryan's and 210 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: quarterback who's off to a rip roaring start. And I 211 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: think a lot of people want to play with this 212 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: kid because he can really sling it as we saw. 213 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 5: Now, I know we don't have the answers to this. 214 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 5: If we did, you know, we'd probably go out and 215 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 5: put money on whatever it was because you would have 216 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 5: the answers. But you go from where you were heading 217 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 5: into twenty three now going into twenty four, you got 218 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 5: a big target on your back. Yeah, I mean yeah, 219 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 5: you're the team to be now in the division, especially 220 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 5: made we're the Jacks. 221 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 2: Were the Jags. 222 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: The Jacks are the darlings of twenty twenty three. First 223 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: they got off to that great start. 224 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, they beat the Texans at NRG and 225 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: I thought, well, there goes the division, bye bye, and 226 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 3: then look what happens. 227 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 5: So to your point with that, I mean, you've been 228 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 5: in the locker room, You've been with these guys. How 229 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 5: do you anticipate them, you know, reat responding to now 230 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 5: instead of you know, being the underdog you're the guy 231 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 5: everybody's trumping to get. 232 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: I mean the answer is, I don't know. 233 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: I do think that they have good heads on their shoulders, right. 234 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 3: It seems like they know what's important. 235 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 2: C J. 236 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 4: Strouds says the right things. 237 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: Seems like he lives his life the way you want 238 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: to see a quarterback live his life. 239 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: Now, you know, he's done. 240 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: A lot of socializing and the All Star Tour, the 241 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: postseason Fun Tour. 242 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 4: He was at Honors of course had to be. 243 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: But he did this Travis Scott Softball charity game in Huget. 244 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: He was here for the All Star He was here 245 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: for the All Star Game. You know, people are commenting 246 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 3: on his social life. I think that he's going to 247 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: live his life the right way, the way you want 248 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: to see a professional athlete live his life and be 249 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: all about the game but also the fun, you know, 250 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: and I think he'll keep it all in perspective. He's 251 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: twenty two years old, you know, so here he is. 252 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: You're right, he's the hunted. Now everybody's coming after him. 253 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 3: We'll see how they respond. The old lives got to 254 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 3: play better. They got to get a running game. 255 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: Now. 256 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: Singletary at his best year but overall the rushing attack 257 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: was not what they wanted it to be, so they 258 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 3: got to work on that. I think that's going to 259 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: help cjd Off a lot. 260 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: As you said, Tamiko Ryans, I mean, the dividends are great. 261 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: Three years, or I should say, three coaches in three years. 262 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: What's the culture like now compared to let's say twenty 263 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: twenty one. 264 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: It's amazing. And look, we had Gary Kubiak there. He 265 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: was great with the culture, but there's just something different 266 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: about this. There's something different about a coach that and 267 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: Kubiak played in the league, and I don't think it's 268 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 3: crucial that you play in the league. Clearly the evidence 269 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: is there that you don't have to play in the 270 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: league be a great head coach. But there's just something 271 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 3: about him, you know, just unto himself and itself. The 272 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: culture with the Houston Texans. Demiko walks the halls and 273 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: you just feel this comfort yet intensity, focus, joy is 274 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: in the air. He wants people to really enjoy playing football, 275 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: playing professional football. He wants them to have fun doing it, 276 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 3: yet play with that intensity that everybody's seeking. 277 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 4: And you know, so far it's working out really well. 278 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 3: It's going to be really interesting to see who's back 279 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: at who's not because he does not want what he calls, 280 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: you know what, the energy vampires, guys who suck the 281 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 3: life out of the brainers. It's like any way, it's 282 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 3: like any business, right. You don't want people to walk 283 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 3: in the room and they bring the dark clouds with them. 284 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: Leave the dark clouds outside the door, bring the heat, 285 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 3: bring the energy in so we can all get something 286 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 3: done productively. 287 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 4: Now. 288 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 5: Now, one of the big topics we've been talking about 289 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 5: over the last handful of years, the culture dealing with 290 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 5: this year with Michael Pittman Junior becoming a free agent 291 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 5: and the price tag that receivers are going to get. 292 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 5: One of the guys we know that we'll be back 293 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 5: in at Texans uniform next year, Nico Collins, but is 294 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 5: kind of looking at that free agency window coming up. Yeah, 295 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 5: he showed out really big last year. Is this something 296 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 5: that you saw coming and clearly getting a weapon in 297 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 5: there can show what his strength is. And then is 298 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 5: he a guy that in the next couple of years 299 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 5: is going to be viewed as a top tier receiver. 300 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: If you told me nearly thirteen hundred yards, I'd say whoa. 301 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: I would say, well, he stayed healthy, okay, and he 302 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: was banged up a little bit, but not much. He 303 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: definitely showed signs of this. But to match him up 304 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: with CJ. Stroutch, he took her to another level. 305 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: Right. 306 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: You could see signs of it along the way. 307 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: But look in twenty twenty three, performs like a number 308 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: one receiver, right, you know, like one of the better 309 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: guys in the league. You know here at yards per catch, 310 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: We're outstanding throughout the entire campaign. And when he and 311 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: Dell are we're aware, Yeah we got I know, and 312 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 3: we got it play the game. But when he and Dell, 313 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: and they didn't have Dell in that game, when he 314 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: and Dell are in the game together, Dell drives secondaries crazy. 315 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: You know, they're like their heads are spinning. You know, 316 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: Dell's running around, he runs routes great. And then Nico 317 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: is able to run basically any kind of route you 318 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 3: need him to run. So everyone's saying in Houston. Not everyone, 319 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: but a lot of the fans and media are like, 320 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: Mike Evans, we got to get Mike Evans, Gotta get 321 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: Michael Pittman. You know, maybe you do, but maybe you don't. 322 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you already have two really good guys. Robert 323 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 3: Woods is still under contract, so we'll see how they 324 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: handle that. And you know they have to add, but 325 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: you Noel Brown's a free agent. They have to add, 326 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 3: but you have to add a top flight guy, knowing 327 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: that you know eventually Nico needs his money, whether it's 328 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 3: this year, next year, right, and. 329 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: The draft's just loaded every year at wide receiver, you 330 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: can get a lot of bang for your buck, a 331 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: lot of draft value there. Speaking of that final thing 332 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: before we let you go, how would you rank the 333 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: draft needs or the priorities for the Texans going into April. 334 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: I think a lot of it as far as need 335 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 3: goes to me, and the GMS will say it's not 336 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 3: about need. But I got to see what happens in 337 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: free agency, right, because if they address certain things, then 338 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: you know, obviously your first round pick leans in a 339 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: certain direction. But I would I would probably take receiver 340 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: off the table, you know, and I'd take certain things 341 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: off the table. I'm looking at d line, whether it's 342 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: end or interior. Because Derek Barnett played pretty well for 343 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 3: them as an in season pickup, played really well down 344 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: the stretch. I mean, they needed him because Will Anderson 345 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: was banged up. Grenard was banged up. 346 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: You know. 347 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: The thing about going into the Colts game, I was 348 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: thinking the Texans might be out of gas going into 349 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 3: the g Yeah. 350 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 4: Anderson was hurt. 351 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: They to deal with the Colts on that night in 352 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: that building with those stakes, and obviously they did. But 353 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: I thought in many ways they were just you know, 354 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: limping in to the finish here and then they blasted Cleveland. 355 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: Obviously saw what happen against Baltimore. But get everybody healthy, 356 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: you know, so Barnett was important. So to answer your question, 357 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: I think D N D tackle would be somewhere to 358 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: look in my opinion, but that's based on taking care 359 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: of certain other things in free agency, like corner. You know, 360 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: you don't have Steven Nelson's sign, so what are you 361 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: going to do at corner opposite Derek Stabord Junior. 362 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: I texted you that that Cleveland game. I listened to 363 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: the game, the playoff game. You're on fire, man, Yeah, 364 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: you were. 365 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: On fire that you got a great game going on 366 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: in front of you. That was a lot of people 367 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: in the building said that was the best Texans game 368 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: they've ever been to, period. That includes opening night win 369 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: against the Cowboys, which in Texans history it was always regarded. 370 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: You know, you start the franchise off beating the Cowboys 371 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: in primetime it was it was unthinkable. 372 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: Sure, so you know, thanks a lot. 373 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I always appreciate it. 374 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: I would offer you some suggestions on where to go 375 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: and where. 376 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: To eat, where to stay. 377 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 4: But we know, but you know, but you guys have 378 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 4: homemade cookies here. We do. That is better than a lot. 379 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 5: Of the Yeah, he comes bearing gifts, It probably be 380 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 5: gone shortly. We're down of bevery guest is gonna grab one. 381 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: Mark love you man. 382 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: Always appreciate your time, guys. Yeah, thanks a lot, man 383 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 4: appreciate it. 384 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,119 Speaker 7: A lot of familiar faces here at the NFL Combine. 385 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 7: We say hello again to Frank Frangie, our friendly foe, 386 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 7: our friendly neighbor. I like to call Frank Franchi ass 387 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 7: voice of the Jackson Bill Jaguars. Thanks for being here, 388 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 7: and I appreciate the time. I got to start right 389 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 7: out looking at the at the roster, looking at the 390 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 7: offseason things that are going on in Jackson to a 391 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 7: lot of unrestricted free agents, what are some of the 392 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 7: prime things that need to be taken care of this 393 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 7: offseason with the in house players. 394 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think that's the big question is what 395 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 6: are they going to do with the in house guys? 396 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 6: Number one, of the two free agents, Josh Allen and 397 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley, they can't let Josh Allen get away. Josh 398 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 6: Allen had seventeen and a half sacks, maybe the best 399 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 6: pass rusher they've ever had. I don't think he's going anywhere. 400 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 6: The key is if you can sign him to an extension. 401 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 6: We've got about a week left. If you can sign 402 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 6: him to an extension before you have to tag him, 403 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 6: then you probably tag Ridley and had they both come back. 404 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 6: The goal is for those guys both to come back. 405 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 6: So that's answer number one. I think somehow, some way 406 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 6: they'll both be back. We'll see. The other thing is 407 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 6: a lot of guys that are under contract that you 408 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 6: have to decide they were at the cap hit Cam 409 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 6: Robinson's a good left tackle, but he also could save 410 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 6: sixteen million dollars if you have moved Anton Harrison over 411 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 6: there and played Walker little. So they got to decide 412 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 6: on that. Rayshawn Jenkins of safety probably saves you about 413 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 6: seven or eight million. Zay Jones saves you about five million. 414 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 6: Who's a receiver. So there's a lot of guys under 415 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 6: contract that they've got to decide about. And there's also 416 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 6: obviously the free agents. But Josh Allen's going to be 417 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 6: on the team that I'll tell you. The rest of 418 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 6: it's all up for grabs. Hopefully all those guys I 419 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 6: mentioned still on the football team. They believe they're in 420 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 6: their window now, so well, see. 421 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: No doubt about that, Frank, I know you're tired of 422 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: talking about this, but losing five of the last six, 423 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: starting the season eight and three, any common denominators that 424 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: you saw on a week to week basis as to 425 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: why things went the way they. 426 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 6: Did, You know, Matt, I think I don't want to 427 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 6: make excuses for them, because everybody gets hurt. They were 428 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 6: eight and three, they were playing really well, had won 429 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 6: six out of seven games. They're on their way to 430 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 6: a first possession score against Cincinnati, and Christian Kirk went down. 431 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 6: He is such an important part of their team, such 432 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 6: an important so he goes down on the heels of 433 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 6: Zay Jones being hurt. Kim Robinson played half the games, 434 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 6: had a lot of Trevor had the ankle, the knee, 435 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 6: the shoulder, and the concussion. I just think they got 436 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 6: beat up so much that they lost the Gamer two. 437 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 6: Then it's a young team and I think lost its confidence. 438 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 6: I think you could just feel, you could feel it 439 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 6: turning a little bit. And you know how it is 440 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 6: if you're a golfer and you've missed three four footers 441 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 6: in a row, Now you know the next four foot 442 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 6: of you're nervous. You're gripping the club, and I think 443 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 6: they did. I think they gripped the club really tight, 444 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 6: and I think all of it kind of snowballed. And 445 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 6: that's why I don't think there's one thing. I think 446 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 6: it was an eight and three team that started to 447 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 6: lose a little bit and then and then, Matt, what 448 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 6: happens then is you never you never can get your 449 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 6: footing again. And I think that's what happened, I really do. 450 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: Speaking of that, you mentioned Trevor Lawrence. He was banged up, 451 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it, fighting through all those injuries, 452 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: but twenty one turnovers. The twenty one turnovers led the NFL. 453 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: Any issue there or was that just all injury correlated? 454 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: No? 455 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 6: I think he's got to get better. At that. I mean, 456 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 6: I think the injuries affected him a little bit. I 457 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 6: think you try and you try and make throws of 458 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 6: that big arm as you've always been able to make, 459 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 6: and after your shoulders sore and you can't stip into 460 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 6: it because you got to knee thing the ball that 461 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 6: all of a sudden. The NFL is a fine line man. 462 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 6: A tight window can be a great thrower, can be 463 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 6: a pick. That was part of it, but that's not 464 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 6: the main thing. And Trevor's got to turn the ball 465 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 6: over last. He knows that you got to take better 466 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 6: care of the ball. You have that many turnovers, it's 467 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 6: not just because you were hurt. He's got to. My 468 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 6: read on Trevor in the turnovers is he's been so 469 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 6: great for so long he's been He's had a better 470 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 6: arm than anybody he's ever played against. He was a 471 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 6: first overall pick. He could get throws in again Clemson 472 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 6: because that Wake Forest cornerback wasn't fast enough. And carters 473 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 6: go high because that because that Atlanta high cornerback wasn't 474 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 6: fast enough. Right, Well, they're fast up here, and I 475 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 6: think sometimes you take chances that you've always gotten away with. 476 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 6: And he'll tell you that he's got to secure the ball. 477 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 6: Bettery fumbled too much. You got to put the ball away. 478 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 6: The offensive line wasn't good, so you hold in, you 479 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 6: hold on the ball a little bit longer. But no, 480 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 6: that it's fair to say that's an issue. I think 481 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 6: Trevor would tell you that's an issue. I think Doug 482 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 6: would say that's an issue in this league. You got 483 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 6: to take better care of the ball. Way too many turnovers. 484 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 7: No, that's Frank Frangi the host of the Franji Show 485 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 7: on ten ten Excel in Jacksonville. That is daily and 486 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 7: he's also obviously voice of the Jaguars. I'm sorry, I 487 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 7: gotta stick with Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, two years ago I 488 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 7: said this an MVP, a future MVP winner in this league, 489 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 7: and then we saw what you talked about. I think 490 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 7: everybody got puckered after eight and three and started going downhill. 491 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 7: What's the outlook for Lawrence and Jacksonville as far as 492 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 7: the command of the room when he's in there in 493 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 7: the offseason, the command of the quarterback room and that offense. 494 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll preface it with I'm very biased. I think 495 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 6: he's one of the best people I've been around in 496 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 6: the league, not just best players. He is unassuming, he 497 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 6: is selfless. He is a great teammate. I saw something 498 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 6: when he was when he was leaving Clemson. They did 499 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 6: this feature of the Trevor Lawrence career and they put 500 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 6: on video because all the departments put everything on video now, 501 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 6: and they said, what do you want to be remembered for? 502 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 6: And was it going to be the national Championship? Was 503 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 6: it the long run against Ohio State? Was at the 504 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 6: big throw at the end of he said, I hope 505 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 6: the first thing is how I treated people. That That 506 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 6: was his answer. His answer was, I hope the first 507 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 6: thing is how I treated you? 508 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 4: And does he stand up to that? 509 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 6: He really does. He is his regular. Let me tell 510 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 6: you a story. So we are in London two years 511 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 6: ago and we're in this They're standing of this posh 512 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 6: resort in London because God's gonna put you to push 513 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 6: resort because he's shocked the good courts is the push resort. 514 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 6: So with this posh resort in London and the country 515 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 6: club like setting is for lunch, right, So you go 516 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 6: to this setting for lunch and and well I got 517 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 6: in there late because it was labor jet lagged well, 518 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 6: Trevor was in he's only he got in there late, 519 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 6: so nobody all the team is gone. So there's used 520 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 6: to serve yourself buffet, but there's five or six workers 521 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 6: behind the buffet line, and then there's this big buffet, 522 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 6: and then there's the dining room. He sat, so Trevor 523 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 6: was getting up when I was coming in. It's We 524 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 6: talked for about five minutes or so. Then I then 525 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 6: I left to the other side of the quarters. He 526 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 6: couldn't see me, so he's literally the only guy left 527 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 6: in the end of the lunch roll. Instead of walking out, 528 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 6: or before he walked out, he went to every one 529 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 6: of those servers and said, hey, thank you man. You 530 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 6: guys have made this lunch great for us. We were 531 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 6: all talking about how good is We don't take it 532 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 6: for granted. We know it's hard work. Leader he really is, 533 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 6: and I watch it now. He wasn't grandstanding because there's 534 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 6: nobody in there, right, He wasn't trying to show off. 535 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 6: He couldn't see me. I was around the corner and 536 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 6: so there was there was nobody to grand stand for. 537 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 6: That's just how he handles himself. So he's a great 538 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 6: and I think he's a good player. He's a he's 539 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 6: got all the you know, the hardware. He's sixty six 540 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 6: with the big arm in real athletic He's took it. 541 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 6: He's got to learn, he's got to learn he can't 542 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 6: take some chances. And I think that's the big thing 543 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 6: with him is is sometimes it's better to throw it 544 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 6: in the stands and play another down rather than try 545 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 6: and stick it in there and the safety picks it off. 546 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 6: I think that's the biggest thing. But I think he's 547 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 6: going to be I have a big career. I think 548 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 6: he's going to be one of the best quarterbacks in 549 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 6: the league for a long time. I haven't lost one 550 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 6: ounce of confidence in Trevor Lawrence. 551 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: And he talks of a franchise or I should say, 552 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: a contract extension with him. 553 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 6: I we'll see, we'll see there. There's always talking in 554 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 6: the shore, in the atmosphere about it. I wouldn't be 555 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 6: surprised if it's not this year. It could be this year. 556 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 6: I don't anticipate. With everything else they're trying to get done, 557 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to be this year. I 558 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 6: think this he's going to be the Jaguar for the 559 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 6: next ten years, right, regardless of whether they do it 560 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 6: next year whenever. But I haven't heard a lot of 561 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 6: talk about it yet. 562 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 7: Frank Freendy right there, and I'll tell you what tanned handsome, 563 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 7: the most tanned man here. 564 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 2: I should see this guy's backyard. It's like Disney World. 565 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 2: I can only imagine. 566 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 6: Can we everything he's got the pool? 567 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: I gotta visit. 568 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 6: That's what I'm asking. 569 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 7: Welcome, all right, go ahead, put I love doing this too, 570 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 7: especially voices Matt Taylor and I over many a launch. 571 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 7: Put your GM hat on you, you know, and what's 572 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 7: what's your vision for this team with this upcoming draft 573 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 7: and filling holes that they need. I know a loco's 574 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 7: in that, who signed, who's not resigned? But what do 575 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 7: you like to see? 576 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, player procurement. I think they've got to get more physical. 577 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 6: They got pushed around at the line of scrimmage too 578 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 6: many times, and I think that more than anything else, 579 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 6: that last game was really kind of a microcosm of 580 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 6: the last quarter of the season for them, when Derek 581 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 6: Henry was having gigantic holes to run through. So I 582 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 6: think they've got to improve their offensive front and really 583 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 6: the interior of the offensive front. I think the thing 584 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 6: is the interior, the defensive front. That's what I think 585 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 6: of the two big areas. Now, look, you're gonna you're 586 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 6: gonna my if I could do a blueprint, if I 587 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 6: can map out the blueprint, I'd say get your big 588 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 6: people in free agency and draft some speed, which means 589 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 6: you draft corners and wide receivers. So I think corners 590 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 6: and wide receivers are the second part. But I think 591 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 6: big people. They've got to get more physical. They were 592 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 6: not a very physical football team, and in my opinion, 593 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 6: they were not a very physical football team. And I 594 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 6: listen when when when Ryan Kelly and Quentin Nelson were 595 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 6: worth their best and you guys were physical, you know 596 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 6: you didn't want you you you didn't want to see 597 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor coming at you because he was running through 598 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 6: a gaping hole in that big But then when your 599 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 6: line tailed off, you weren't the same team, right, And 600 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 6: nobody knows that better than the Colts know it. 601 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 8: Well. 602 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 6: I saw the same thing happen all of a sudden. 603 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 6: The line wasn't very good. In Travis Ytno, I think 604 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 6: is a really good running back. He may not be 605 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor. He's a good bat He became ordinary because 606 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 6: the holes were there. They got to get more physical. 607 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: Speaking of that offensive line, I know they were banged 608 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: up last year. Sounds like from Trent Balk the other day, 609 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: majority of that offensive line is gonna come back. What's 610 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: the ceiling of that offensive line? If it's intact and 611 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: fully healthy. 612 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 6: You know they believe if they have a healthy line, 613 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 6: it's a pretty good line. Matt. I want to see that. 614 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 6: If you asked me to measure, if I did a 615 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 6: power poll of position groups, it probably wouldn't be in 616 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 6: my top three or four. For the Jaguars, I would 617 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 6: say they're they're running back room is really good. I 618 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 6: love Trevor, I like the receivers, I like the back end. 619 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 6: I would say, though, so I think he can be 620 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 6: a good line until there's more Peter Anton Harrison, the 621 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 6: rookie tackle is gonna be really good. Ezra Cleveland that 622 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 6: if they can resign him, the free agent or the 623 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 6: traded left guard could be really good. I want to 624 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 6: see the other guys, so I would say I would 625 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 6: say that's not gonna I'd be surprised if we're talking 626 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 6: this time next year, and I'll look back and say 627 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 6: that was one of the strengths of the team. It's 628 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 6: got to get better, and I don't think it's an overnight. 629 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 6: An overnight the thing I don't. 630 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 7: Frank Frangie right, their voice of the Jaguars, What do 631 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 7: you think of mister much respect to mister conshot kind 632 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 7: and family and everything. A lot of London, a lot 633 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 7: of gas over there. Is this a franchise if they 634 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 7: do do something like this I'm talking about in the 635 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 7: next decade, that Jacksonville would be one of the first 636 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 7: to pick up and go somewhere that's possibly overseas. I 637 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 7: know that's a loaded question, but the NFL wants to 638 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 7: expand so much, and that connection shod has with London. 639 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think you can ever have a team 640 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 6: over there, whether it's Jacksvill or anybody else. I mean, 641 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 6: how many guys you try out during the season, fifty 642 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 6: to sixty guys tryouts. You can't. They don't have passports. 643 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 6: It's hard to get over there. It's an eight hour flight. 644 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 6: I think running the operations of a team, someone said, well, 645 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 6: maybe you can have a home base here, and then 646 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 6: I don't think so. 647 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 4: I two buy weeks or whatever. 648 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think it could ever work. What I 649 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 6: do think will happen is an expansion of international games. 650 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 6: We're already seeing it. We're playing in Germany. Now, we're 651 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 6: gonna be playing in Mexico. Now in brazil's on the table. 652 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 6: So I think you're going to see an expansive international teams. 653 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 6: I don't think you'll ever see. I don't think you'll 654 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 6: ever see a team in London. And to that end, 655 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 6: I'll addend him to that. Sead loves Florida. He's got 656 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 6: a home in Naples where where we live now look 657 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 6: the byas I'm from there, So it's a loaded answer too. 658 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 6: But Sead wants to develop real estate. Shod wants to 659 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 6: develop business. We're in Florida. We have a gorgeous beach, 660 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 6: we have a gorgeous river, we have gorgeous golf, we 661 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 6: have beautiful weather, fishing, fishings. Could why and this is 662 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 6: no knock on other parts of the country, but why 663 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 6: would Shad take a team to Saint Louis or Portland 664 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 6: when you've got Florida, when you've got this this weather. 665 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 6: If you're trying to develop business, you've tried to develop 666 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 6: your business interest Jacks aren't going. 667 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: Anywhere going along with at the stadium. 668 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: What's the latest with Not to get all too political, 669 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: but what what what's the biggest hang up on renovating 670 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: ever Bank State. 671 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 6: It's going to happen, and Matt it will almost be 672 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 6: more I say renovation. It's technically a renovation, but it's 673 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 6: really going to be a new stadium with a few 674 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 6: of the walls still there. It's it's not going to 675 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 6: be renovated. It's gonna be new. It's gonna be some 676 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 6: something like what hard Rock did in Miami. They'll get 677 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 6: the deal done this year. I think they've gone back. 678 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 6: If there's a new mayor and she's been very progressive 679 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 6: and very helpful, they'll get the deal done. They're back 680 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 6: and forth. Shot originally wanted to wrap it into a 681 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 6: redevelopment of that area and wanted the city and the 682 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 6: team to get together on that. I'm not sure that's 683 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 6: going to happen now, and may be Shot in developing 684 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 6: that area himself and the city just participating in the stadium. 685 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 6: But it's going to be a one point five billion 686 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 6: dollars stadium. I think you'll see an announcement. My guess 687 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 6: is spring that they've agreed to something. I think it 688 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 6: won't begin until after twenty five because the Florida Georgia 689 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 6: game is there every year and that contract is through 690 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 6: twenty five. I think in twenty six and twenty seven 691 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 6: the renovation will take place. I think the new stadium 692 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 6: will launch in twenty eight. I think we all have 693 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 6: a pretty good idea that's what they're going to do. 694 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 6: They've got to decide do they go play in Gainesville 695 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 6: for two years? As I ask you, then what there's 696 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 6: the possibility of Gainsville Orlando. Probably Gainsville for two years. 697 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 6: I mean, you go to Florida because they know how 698 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 6: to do it. 699 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: It's a college. 700 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 6: They're already putting on seven home games a year. They 701 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 6: see ninety thousand dollars. They've got the security and the 702 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 6: concessions and the operational people. So my guess is there 703 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 6: there is some talk that one year they'd play in 704 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 6: Jacksonville while it's being renovated forty thousand capacity, and the 705 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 6: other year they'd go to Gainsville, because there's been some 706 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 6: pushback in the populace about do I really want my 707 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 6: team gone for two years? So they're trying to figure 708 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 6: that part out my opinion, I'd go to Gainsville for 709 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 6: two years. 710 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 7: Gift to load up and pick at pack everything. The 711 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 7: Gainesville like operations, daily operations is now in. 712 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 6: The team would practice. The team would practice there. Okay, 713 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 6: they would drive the Gazel for the game. They would 714 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 6: drive the Gazel fru. But I listen, it's an hour, 715 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 6: maybe an hour and ten minutes. It's a ninety thousand 716 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 6: seas stadium. They know what they're doing. It's a beautiful 717 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 6: grass field. I know the fans don't want the team 718 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 6: to be gone for two years, and I get that. 719 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 6: There I'm not buying the season tickets they are, and 720 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 6: I understand that. But I would do I would blow 721 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 6: it up, and in two years you've got this beautiful 722 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 6: new stadium for the long office. So that's how I 723 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 6: would do it. 724 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 7: All right, Well, let's after this interview set up some 725 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 7: off season plans. 726 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: We go visit Frank. Franc You should have seen Rank 727 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: this morning. I love you, Frank, but he looked cold. 728 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 6: Oh I am the biggest cold weather whip you've ever met. 729 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 6: Whoever you know to gets cold, I get colder. I'm 730 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 6: not guys, I love it. 731 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 7: Oh, well, you're in the wrong place for the next 732 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 7: couple of days. But hey, Jacksonville, I love you in 733 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 7: the corner. Excellent joby, one of the best in the business. 734 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 7: Appreciate the time. Don't forget one more time. Fans follow 735 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 7: this man, give me give me some information. Now we 736 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 7: can get an Instagram story from me, Frank, that's what 737 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 7: we want. 738 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 6: Here's what I am on X or whatever. I'm not 739 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 6: even on Instagram. I wouldn't how to do it. But 740 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 6: on X I'm at Frank underscore Franzie about They're just 741 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 6: starting point. 742 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 7: And don't forget daily and I'm taking talking Daily her 743 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 7: host of the Franzie Show on ten ten XL in Jacksonville, 744 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 7: that podcast up daily. Appreciate the time, everything, best of 745 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 7: luck except for two games, actually your best of luck? 746 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 4: Right, I see you later. All right. 747 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 7: I am sitting right next to I mean one and 748 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 7: two in the business. I like to call him voice 749 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 7: Voice of the Coltch Matt Taylor, Voice of the Titans, 750 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 7: Mike Keith. This ere you guys, rank one and two 751 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 7: in my book. I won't tell you who ranks where, 752 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 7: but I'm. 753 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 2: Just I was gonna say, who's who. 754 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 7: You ranke one and two in my play by play 755 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 7: analyst rankings, Mike Keith and by the. 756 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: Way, I bowed down, by the way, no you don't. 757 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 7: What an interesting tidbit before we get into football. A 758 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 7: dear friend of Kenny Jesney. I remember Mike Keith right here, 759 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 7: it's dear friend. Dear friend, right could we call him 760 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 7: that he broke his career? 761 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: Let's be honest. No, that's what you. 762 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 7: Play his records, Mike. 763 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: I didn't play his records. 764 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 8: I talked to him. Well, he was trying to get 765 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 8: his records. But he does know my name. Yeah, okay, 766 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 8: which is kind of okay, cool, you know it's all right, 767 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 8: But no, I would I did not break his career. 768 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 8: I was there when his career broke. I worked at 769 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 8: w i v K in Knoxville. He is from the 770 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 8: Knoxville area. He's actually from Coryton and would see him 771 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 8: around the station when he was just an up and cumber. 772 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 7: So you told us that story a couple of years ago, 773 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 7: and I always remember that about it. 774 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: So I just make you the star maker. I tell 775 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 2: that story a lot now. 776 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 8: I'm now I've gotten to the each I'm repeating myself 777 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 8: all the time. 778 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: That's great, and like my Dad. 779 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 6: That's so. That's great. 780 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 7: One of the best in the business, played by play 781 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 7: man for the Titans, Mike Keith's era. I want to 782 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 7: go back, and then I want to go forward a 783 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 7: little bit. I bet I've always been a Mike Vrabel fan. 784 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 7: I'm about him. The way he played the game when 785 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 7: he played here, the way he coached, and you hate it. 786 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 7: I hang on, Mike, he he got hung up here. 787 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: I'm hung up. Sorry about that? 788 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 6: Sorry about that. 789 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 8: He wraps his he wraps his leash around my legs 790 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 8: and takes me down the hill. 791 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: I mean, what's going on with you people? 792 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 8: Now? I tell you what we may have done that you? 793 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 8: I mean, you beat us twice this year? Can you 794 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 8: not just let it go? That's why we struggle in 795 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 8: the AFC South you hear say, have you do that 796 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 8: to me? I mean just because he was so bitter. 797 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 8: You can get over it. Wan't your job trying to 798 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 8: trip you up? 799 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 6: The best I can? 800 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 7: You want me to leave you kid? He loves Nashville, 801 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 7: all right, Mike Key's back. I wanted to talk about 802 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 7: Mike Rabel and I was gonna. I was a little 803 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 7: shocked at that. I don't know how you were you 804 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 7: were too, You're hands on the pulse of this franchise 805 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 7: and stuff like that, and obviously he's out of work 806 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 7: this season. I love Vrabel when he's playing. I loved 807 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 7: when he's coached, the surprise of that, you know, a 808 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 7: month or so back when they did make the switch, 809 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 7: and your initial thoughts of Brian Callahan. 810 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 8: Very pleased with Brian Callahan, very excited about what he is, 811 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 8: what he brings, and in particular the staff. The staff 812 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 8: is really something else, and so I think if you 813 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 8: were going to make a change, he's so different from 814 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 8: Mike Rabel, and I think anytime you do that, I 815 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 8: think doing something totally different is always, on the surface 816 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 8: the right answer, because if you're shaking it up, don't 817 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 8: shake it up with the same type of person the 818 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 8: same type of personality, all of those sorts of things. 819 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 8: Brian is really a good guy and he is totally 820 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 8: ready to be a head coach. I compare it to 821 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 8: this when I was at the University of Tennessee, Philip 822 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 8: foehmercame the head coach at the end of the nineteen 823 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 8: ninety two season, and I'd never been around to anybody 824 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 8: in my life who was more ready to be a 825 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 8: head coach. He had done everything. The only thing he 826 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 8: had not done was be the head coach, and it 827 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 8: obviously worked out. I think this is the same sort 828 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 8: of thing. This is somebody grew up with a coach 829 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 8: in his house, did went and did his own thing, 830 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 8: never worked for his dad, never worked with his dad, 831 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 8: and yet has the experience of seeing his dad do this. 832 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 8: And he said this to me earlier while we're here 833 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 8: in Indianapolis, that he is not as shell shocked as 834 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 8: a lot of first time head coaches because he's seen stuff. 835 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 8: Zach Taylor let him see things, gave him that insight, 836 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 8: and then obviously through so much with his dad. 837 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 2: The Frabel thing was. 838 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 8: A surprise, and I think it was a surprise to 839 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 8: Titans fans because Frabel's this guy. I mean, even if 840 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 8: he didn't like to play he called or what he 841 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 8: did in this situation. 842 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: He's your head coach. 843 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 8: He's that strong personality that you're like, that's our guy. Yeah, 844 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 8: maybe kind of like how Chuck Pagano was for people. 845 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 2: They just like you. 846 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 8: There was no outcry of people saying get rid of 847 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 8: the coach. But what had happened is the owner when 848 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 8: she let John Robinson go as general manager, she had 849 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 8: set in place a very different communication structure that she 850 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 8: wanted to see. She wanted the influence of the organization 851 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 8: to go beyond just the head coach and the general manager. 852 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 8: She wanted the analytics people to have a say, the 853 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 8: training staff to have a say. All of these things 854 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 8: probably a lot like what they're doing. 855 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 2: In baseball now. You know, if you look at most 856 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: of the really. 857 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 8: Good baseball teams, they have a lot of people, sort 858 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 8: of a board of directors almost now. The general manager 859 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 8: and the head coach are still the biggest part of it. 860 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 8: But what she had done with rand Carthon and what 861 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 8: she was looking to do was very different, and Vrabel 862 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 8: had been doing something different for five years. It was 863 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 8: more traditional, and I think in the end, in her mind, 864 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 8: it just didn't all fit together the way she wanted 865 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 8: to see it go, and that's why she made the change. 866 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: You're talking about Brian Callahan, and I know that the 867 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: Titans obviously haven't played a game yet, but culturally, dynamic wise, 868 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: what's the biggest difference between Mike Vrabel and Brian Callahan. 869 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: I know the culture wasn't bad. Mike Vrabel just you know, 870 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: bottom line is you gotta win games. But can you 871 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: can you sense a different you know, in terms of 872 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: subtleties between Callahan and Vrabel, in terms of how they're operating. 873 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 8: Vrabel is literally and figuratively so big, Matt and Mike's 874 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 8: personality is so big. There was a Mike Ditka effect 875 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 8: with Mike Vrabel and Dave McGinnis, who's my broadcast partner 876 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 8: on Titans Radio, work for Mike Ditka from nineteen eighty 877 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 8: six through nineteen ninety two, and he saw the exact 878 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 8: same thing. He said, this guy is the modern day Ditka, 879 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 8: and that sometimes overshadows everybody else and everything else. This 880 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 8: guy's not like that. Brian Callahan is is very measured. 881 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 8: You know, he's a dad with an eight year old 882 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,959 Speaker 8: and a six year old, and he's just a low 883 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 8: key sort of guy. I'm sure he can get angry 884 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 8: and can yell when he needs to because he's ball coach. 885 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 8: But it's just different. With Mike Rabel. Everything was always on. 886 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 8: I mean, it was always on all the time, and 887 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 8: the building reflected that, and it was really it was 888 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,959 Speaker 8: a good thing. 889 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 2: I mean for those who say, well, I mean the report. 890 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 8: Came out, and I'm so glad I get to mention 891 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 8: this that teams didn't hire him because he was big 892 00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 8: and intimidated. Okay, well yeah, but what I will say, 893 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 8: he's also very kind and gigantic heart. I don't think 894 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 8: Mike Rabel always wants you to see that because that's 895 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 8: not convenient, right, right, But he's he's a big softie. 896 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 2: This guy is just a It's just he's more. 897 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 4: In the road all the time. 898 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 8: And I haven't seen him on the practice field yet, sure, 899 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 8: so waiting to see all of that. But yeah, there's 900 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 8: a different field downstairs. When Rabel would come barreling down 901 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 8: the hall, you knew it. 902 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: You knew it. 903 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 6: I mean it's a. 904 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 2: Big shadow, right, It's a big shadow. 905 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 8: But you were gonna I mean, he was going to 906 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 8: give you the business about something or I mean there's 907 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 8: just and and you see Brian in the hall, He's like, hey, 908 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 8: how you doing. I mean, it's just it's just different 909 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 8: in that way. Not a bad thing necessarily, but just 910 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 8: a different thing. 911 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 7: Okay, Mike Keith Boyce saw the Titans right there. Some 912 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 7: offseason things we got to talk about. This not since 913 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 7: Eddie George is somebody who been around to advance of 914 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 7: football on the ground like Derrick Henry and the position 915 00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 7: that they're facing there. 916 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 2: Well, you know, Chris John was pretty good. 917 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 7: He was pretty good too. Yeah, I will say that. 918 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 7: So CJ two K, I apologize heard this and I 919 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 7: didn't correct you. CJ would fly to my hand, Yeah right, 920 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 7: I apologize on behalf of you and the family. Yes, yeah, yeah, 921 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 7: But but what's going on with Derek Henry and obviously 922 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 7: the salary camp gets, you know, it gets boosted up 923 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 7: by a record margin and stuff like that. To lose 924 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 7: somebody that potentially to lose somebody like that, and what 925 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 7: he means to that franchise, what does that mean to you? 926 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 4: You've seen this kid from day one. 927 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 8: No, he's the face of the franchise period, and we 928 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 8: think he's a Pro Football Hall of Fame. If you 929 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 8: look at the five years plus slightly plus from the 930 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 8: early part of December twenty eighteen to the end of 931 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 8: the twenty twenty three season, you're talking about a player 932 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 8: who had a five year period that probably is not 933 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 8: mirrored since Jim Brown. It's pretty crazy. Maybe Earl Campbell, 934 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 8: and that's really what you judge running backs on you 935 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 8: don't say, well, he played sixteen years, unless it's Frank Gore. 936 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 8: In most cases, you look at a window of time, 937 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 8: and his window of five years is one of the 938 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 8: five best in NFL history. 939 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 2: That being said, people don't pay running backs anymore. They 940 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 2: just don't. I mean they just as I sit with 941 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 2: the Colts. 942 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 6: They don't. 943 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 8: They don't for the most part, they don't. They don't 944 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 8: pay running backs. And you are making a philosophical decision 945 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 8: offensively when you do so. When Derek's on the field, 946 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,760 Speaker 8: Derek's getting the ball. Derek doesn't play third down, just doesn't. 947 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 8: He's not a he doesn't run ten routes. It's not 948 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,720 Speaker 8: what he does. He's not a past protector, not afraid 949 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 8: to hit anybody, certainly a tough guy, but just not 950 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 8: what he does. So when you pay him, and we 951 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 8: went through this when we made the decision to pay him, 952 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 8: we had to let John neu Smith the tight end walk. 953 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 2: John wu was a huge. 954 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 8: Part of what we get in game yeah, right, and 955 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,959 Speaker 8: the and the past game and I mean we'd pitch 956 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 8: it to it. We do all kinds of things with him. 957 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 8: But you make those decisions. It's philosophical. The game is 958 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 8: now outside in. It's receivers and corners and edge rushers 959 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 8: and tackles. I mean that's and the and the quarterback obviously, 960 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 8: but the game is outside in. And he took over 961 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 8: seven percent of our salary cap him out last year, 962 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 8: which was the highest running back room allocation, not just 963 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 8: one player of any team in the league. So you're you, 964 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 8: You've got to make a philosophical decision at that point, 965 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 8: and I think that's where the Titans are right now 966 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 8: because they do it. The Titans have a lot of 967 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 8: cap room for the first time ever ever. Remember I 968 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 8: don't know, I mean literally because when the salary Matt 969 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 8: won't remember this because you're like two. But when the 970 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 8: salary cap, your dad came into being in nineteen ninety four, 971 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 8: the Houston Oilers were on a run of seven straight 972 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 8: playoff appearances. They had not prepared for the salary cap, 973 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 8: so they had to take the Warren Moon teams apart 974 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 8: because and the salary cap was thirty five million dollars. 975 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 8: They were not ready for that. So in some ways, 976 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 8: we've been behind the eight ball since the salary cap started. 977 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 8: We've had years where we had a little bit of 978 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 8: room and it was going to kind of work out, 979 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 8: but overall, we've never been in this position. So what 980 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 8: they're doing now is they are resetting the modern day 981 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 8: priorities to take it forward. 982 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 6: And it took a minute. 983 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I mean really, I mean, with what you 984 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 7: just said the way to describe it, and being hamstrung 985 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 7: all the way back to the start of the salary 986 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 7: cap and predominantly been behind. 987 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 8: The eight ball, this is a this is a moment 988 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 8: in time, nice place, well, and you have the new coach, 989 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 8: you have the new president of football operations, you have 990 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 8: the second year general manager, and you're saying, Okay, how 991 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 8: do we do this to set it up to go 992 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 8: forward in this way? And you're you're making decisions not 993 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 8: just about this year, you're making decisions about how it's 994 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 8: going to look going forward. Because and this is a 995 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 8: long answer, I apologize, but this is a this is 996 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 8: a bigger philosophical question than just Derrick Henry right right, 997 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,240 Speaker 8: And that's the tough part of it. Because Will Levis, 998 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 8: we think Will Levis might be the guy. We really 999 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,479 Speaker 8: do don't know. Had guys after rookie years, we thought 1000 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 8: we're the guy, and then it didn't work out. But 1001 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 8: we think there's a real chance. Well, let's say he is. 1002 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 8: You're not going to have to pay Will Levis for 1003 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 8: the next two years, so you can start to set things. 1004 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 8: You said, well, let's get an edge rusher and let's 1005 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 8: go get a free agent wide receiver. The other thing, too, 1006 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 8: is you can make a trade right now because you 1007 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 8: have cap room. You could take somebody's cap problem off 1008 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,439 Speaker 8: of their books for them, and maybe you give them 1009 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 8: back less in a draft pick than you would normally 1010 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 8: have to because you're doing them a favor. I mean, 1011 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 8: you've got all kinds of options. Well, you're also going 1012 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 8: to have to be prepared that if Will Levis is 1013 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,280 Speaker 8: the dude in year four, now fifty million dollars plus 1014 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 8: at least yea, right, that's where it's going. Well, so 1015 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 8: then you can set your cap towards the day you 1016 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 8: have to do that to where you don't have to 1017 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 8: let eighty two guys go in order to make it happen. 1018 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 8: That's where the Titans are at this moment, and as 1019 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 8: you watch the Titans in this offseason, that's what you're 1020 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 8: going to see. That's Mike Keith, the voice of the 1021 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 8: Tennessee Titan, speaking of legacies. You talked about Derrick Henry 1022 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 8: will Levis now being past the torch from Ryan Tannehill, who's. 1023 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 2: A free agent as well. 1024 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: How will you remember Ryan Tannehill. 1025 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,280 Speaker 8: The second best quarterback we've ever had bind Steve mcnaor. Yeah, 1026 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 8: I mean for a three year period outstanding winning football, 1027 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 8: made plays with his arm and with his legs, provided 1028 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 8: stability and leadership. Was exactly what we needed as we 1029 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 8: knocked on the door of a couple of special things. 1030 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 6: And you know, that's. 1031 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 8: Really what you ask for, is you get in those 1032 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 8: positions and you hope it's your moment and then you're 1033 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 8: able to kick it in. We went to the AFC 1034 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 8: Championship game in nineteen we're actually ahead of Kansas City 1035 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,720 Speaker 8: in that game, and then Patrick Mahomes did Patrick Mahome 1036 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 8: things and we lost in twenty win a division in 1037 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 8: twenty one, win a division to get home field and 1038 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,919 Speaker 8: then don't beat Cincinnati. Yeah, you know, and we've that's 1039 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 8: three times we've had that happen where we've been in 1040 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 8: position and didn't take advantage. 1041 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 6: So that's all you can that's all you can hope 1042 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 6: for really quality football player. I think he still has 1043 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,720 Speaker 6: ball left in him cost thirty six point six against 1044 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 6: the cap this year. It's gonna be interested to see 1045 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 6: what his market is and what he wants to do, 1046 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 6: because I think he can play in the league into 1047 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 6: his forties. I think he could do a good job 1048 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 6: doing that as. 1049 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 2: A backup, right, I don't know that he wants to 1050 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 2: do that. 1051 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,959 Speaker 8: Kids, family, great home in South Florida. Be interested to see. 1052 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,720 Speaker 8: He'll be thirty six entering this season, so be interesting 1053 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 8: to see what he wants to do next. But is 1054 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 8: he a long term starter for somebody? I'm not that smart. 1055 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 8: Do I think he's an unbelievable backup potentially? Oh? 1056 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. 1057 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 8: I mean that's what he did the last week of 1058 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 8: the season, stepped in and then beat a Jacksonville team 1059 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 8: We had no business beating him because he played so well. 1060 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 7: That's right, Mike Keith right there, the voice of Titans football, 1061 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 7: and we're gonna let you go. You haven't seen this 1062 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,280 Speaker 7: for a while. I'm taking you've been with this franchise 1063 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 7: a long time. The new GM comes in, the new 1064 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 7: head coach comes in, there's a there's a stadium being built, 1065 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 7: there's Super Bowl aspirations for this team, for not only 1066 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 7: hosting but getting to there. Is this different from the 1067 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 7: last few years. 1068 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,919 Speaker 2: The most exciting offseason we've ever had? 1069 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 7: Say no more, and or. 1070 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 8: I think I've said the most interesting offseason based on 1071 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 8: never being in this cap situation, based on the decisions 1072 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 8: we have to make on the Derrick Henrys of the world, 1073 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 8: the stadium, we're putting shovels in the ground. This week, 1074 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 8: he has to go back and do some shoveling season Schoffler, Well, 1075 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 8: you know, I'm a good shoveler. People would tell you 1076 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 8: that for years. I've been shoveling for the majority of 1077 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 8: my career. 1078 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 2: We never stopped shoveling. 1079 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 8: But you know, it's and then the coach thing, which 1080 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 8: was a surprise, only added to all of this. And 1081 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 8: you know, for the first week after we let Vrabel go, 1082 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 8: it's pretty tough. 1083 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 2: Around our shop. Fans were like hmm. 1084 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 8: And then you get to Monday afterwards and like, Okay, 1085 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 8: who's the next coach is going to be? 1086 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 2: Who's that going to be? 1087 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 8: And then that process started and everybody got really excited. 1088 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 8: And so you know, what he's finding is unlike Cincinnati 1089 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 8: when he went in with Zach Taylor, they had to 1090 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 8: take that thing down to the studs. Our situation is 1091 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 8: not like that, because we've got some nice pieces and 1092 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 8: we have a quarterback. So could we get back and 1093 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 8: be in the middle of it quickly? Yeah, I think 1094 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 8: we could. 1095 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:42,280 Speaker 4: Excellent. 1096 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 7: Well, you do great work and appreciate that. 1097 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,439 Speaker 1: So too, Mike Keith is so big time. Sure they're 1098 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 1: building the new stadium. They're actually consulting Mike. See now 1099 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: on where the radio booths where should look like? Well, 1100 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 1: vantage point everything. You know, they have the wherewithal to 1101 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: ask a legend on how this. 1102 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 2: You haven't assault in your uh, let's see, you're gonna have. 1103 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 8: That's what happened. You take a little part of what's 1104 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 8: really happened. And now it's a sauna. What on fridge? 1105 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 6: Right on? 1106 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,240 Speaker 2: Bathroomstay now, wait a minute. 1107 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 8: I did ask for the cubbies that you have in 1108 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 8: the booths at Oil. 1109 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 2: Cubbies are it's a great use of space. It's a 1110 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:23,320 Speaker 2: big help. 1111 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 8: And I don't fall and bust my tail when I 1112 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 8: try to walk out because. 1113 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 2: I step over somebody's bag. So that's great. 1114 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 8: I did ask for a bathroom forever broadcast booth. 1115 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 2: That's the dream. 1116 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: You care what you have in it. Just no corner, 1117 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: no corner, don't well the plant. 1118 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,399 Speaker 8: The plan now is not to do corner. It's center 1119 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 8: of the field. It's going to be higher. 1120 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 6: That's fine. 1121 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 8: We have the lowest booth in the NFL, which everybody loves. 1122 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 8: It's gonna be higher because the stadium is gonna be 1123 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 8: constructed differently. But right now it's at midfield. That could change. 1124 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: There's only two people right now that are enjoying this conversation. 1125 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 8: But but I just you know, just enough space, a 1126 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 8: place to hang your coats. 1127 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 2: The dream would be a bathroom, but that's not gonna okay. 1128 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 7: The sauna may be a stretch, might be Voice of 1129 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 7: the Titans. I love it, obviously, A dear friend of 1130 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 7: Kenny Chesney, a stadium designer, and his day job the 1131 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 7: best in the business. 1132 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 4: Voice of the Titans. 1133 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 2: I love talking to a lot of people. Don't know. 1134 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 7: A great singer too. We're gonna do it again. See 1135 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 7: you down there here and we'll see you up there 1136 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 7: next time. We see you know the drill at some point, 1137 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,360 Speaker 7: all right, Thanks, thank you,