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Speaker 2: podcast channel with me Eli Sussman, the founder of fish

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Speaker 2: Frankie Pillieri is going to be the Marlins new director

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Speaker 2: of Amateur Scouting, leading the MLB draft process for this

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Speaker 2: It took a few teams for him to get there,

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Speaker 2: This is what the new Marlins scouting director was saying

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Speaker 2: wasn't he. The only thing is he sold him short

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Speaker 2: That was a pretty fascinating career arc he had, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: That came in as this guy with really great potential,

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Speaker 1: The last time we saw him pitch was in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: four o'clock hitter than seven o'clock at times, because you

434
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Speaker 1: could see the effortless raw power and batting practice, but

435
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Speaker 1: sometimes you wouldn't translate to the games, especially against tougher competition.

436
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Speaker 1: You know, when Miami played against smaller schools and you know,

437
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: programs that didn't have elite pitching, he would be able

438
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: to dominate. And against tougher competition, you know, it was

439
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: a little bit more Zach Collins picking him up instead

440
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: of William Brady doing most of the damage. But Winnie

441
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: Bray I still thought could have been a big leaguer

442
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: because just a format.

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Speaker 2: Now let's look ahead to the twenty seventeen Drift. This

444
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Speaker 2: was Frankie pelley final one on as a public writer

445
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: before going back to the team, so not getting hired

446
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: by the Mariners, and he had a similar assignment in

447
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: this is covered with D one Baseball, where he had

448
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: one piece about Day one of the draft and then

449
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: another one about Day two, reading from what he wrote

450
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Speaker 2: here with D one Baseball. While the early part of

451
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: the first round played out in a relatively predictable fashion,

452
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 2: things took some wild turns as we saw some talent slide.

453
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 2: Some other players picked that surprised us. So once again

454
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: he weighs in on the number one overall pick. It

455
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: was royce Lewis going to the Twins, who based on

456
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: his recollection at the moment, Brendan McKay being a two

457
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: way player coming out of college, he was one that

458
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: was generally considered to be the more in demand prospect.

459
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: But Pillieri comes out in defense of royce Lewis, saying

460
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 2: that this guy is that special even though he is

461
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 2: has less of a track record as an amateur because

462
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: he's just coming out of high school, that his plus

463
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: bat speed, his potential to be a twenty five home

464
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: run bad at the next level. The Twins didn't just

465
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: take a player who would be a bargain to sign.

466
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: They signed a potential superstar that they can put in

467
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: the middle of the diamond for years to come.

468
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Speaker 1: Royce Lewis.

469
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, he's had a ton of injury issues since then.

470
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: When he has been on the field and at the

471
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: big league level, he has been shown the potential to

472
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 2: be somebody that could be a star. So his story

473
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: is still get to be written, but the Twins are

474
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: moving into twenty twenty four kind of expecting him to

475
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: be an everyday player. For him, he set some sort

476
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: of Grand Slam record last year. When he has been

477
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 2: in the majors, almost all his home runs come with

478
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: the bases loaded, so this one's is still it's justified

479
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: in hindsight, just because Brendan McKay unfortunately did not live

480
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: up to the promise that he had he was chosen

481
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: by the Rays in that scenario, This section about Kyle

482
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 2: Wrights going too the Braves kind of a complicated one

483
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: to unpack in hindsight. Hilliary said that Atlanta got one

484
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: of the best values in the draft just five picks

485
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: into the proceedings, and Right it took a long time

486
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: to figure things out at the big league level. Then

487
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: it really popped in twenty twenty two when he won

488
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: twenty one games for the Braves. He was a well

489
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: above average starter that year, and then this past year

490
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: heard his shoulder again, putting his career kind of in jeopardy.

491
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 2: So unusual career arc that Right has had at his peak,

492
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Speaker 2: though you'd have to say that his best season to

493
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,719
Speaker 2: this point in twenty twenty two was more impressive than

494
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: Hunter Green or Brendan McKay or even royce Lewis, just

495
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: because of how valuable he was near the top of

496
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: that bridge rotation that year. Pilliary was a big fan

497
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: with the Astros. Did they got outstanding value in picking

498
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: up North Carolina Ace Jbcaucus and Texas A and M

499
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 2: right hander Corbyn Martin was Houston's third pick, and he

500
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: may very well be looked back on as one of

501
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: the steals of this draft. Both of those guys coincidentally

502
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: involved in the same trade to bring Zach Greenk to

503
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Speaker 2: the Astros. A reminder here that when you are making

504
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: picks in the draft, as much as it's a dream

505
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: to have all of them become homegrown talents for your

506
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: own organization, is still important to have guys simply mature

507
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: as prospects so that if they're needed in a trade,

508
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: that their value goes up from draft night to that trade.

509
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: At least in this case, both of those guys were

510
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: pretty significant assets at the time and they were part

511
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: of that deal to bring Zach Renk to Houston. For

512
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: I think it was two and a half seasons where

513
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: he pitched pretty well, so that one. Yeah, not a

514
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: total whiff. Even though they didn't do anything for the Astros,

515
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: they haven't done much in the Big league since there

516
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: are still they were still progressing nicely as prospects. The

517
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 2: first couple of years, Hillieri was pretty high on Clark Schmidt, who,

518
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: similar to Lizarda the previous year, he was coming off

519
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: of Tommy John and so his career was his pro

520
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: career was being delayed because he was still recovering from that.

521
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: Except in this case he didn't really slide in the draft.

522
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: He was still fifteenth overall pick, and he writes they

523
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: may have ended up getting a steal as a result

524
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 2: of that. Schmid this past year was in the Yankees

525
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: rotation the whole year, but more of a four or

526
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: number five starter than somebody with huge upside, it looks like.

527
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: And then another familiar name to Marlins fans talking about

528
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: the White Sox here in the twenty seventeen draft pilliary rights.

529
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: They got their man on Monday in Jake Berger, the

530
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: Missis Missouri state slugger that they seem to have coveted

531
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: for months. Burger should advance quickly on the strength of

532
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: his right handed power and outstanding late discipline. Interesting, So

533
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 2: now Berger it took him a little longer to get

534
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: to the big league, similar to Royce Lewis just unfortunate

535
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: injury luck where he ruptured his achilles a couple times

536
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: and then the pandemic took away some developmental time. That

537
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: Berger reached the big leagues a little later than expected.

538
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: As you know this past season both for the White

539
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: Sox and Men, especially after getting trade to Miami, he

540
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: was extraordinarily impactful as a slugger in the middle of

541
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: that lineup. And yeah, this final note on is a

542
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: sweeping conclusion that Pilliery made about the draft process at

543
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: this time, about how hitters with power, even though ones

544
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 2: that weren't necessarily well rounded hitters were again coming off

545
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: the board early. If you can prove that you can

546
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: hit the long ball, the draft in this era of

547
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: thinking is going to treat you extremely well. That conclusion,

548
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: it's not so much about batting average at this stage

549
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: that having the ability to slug is super powerful. So

550
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: I wonder to take hector on like that last part

551
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 2: about the idea that players could go super early in

552
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: the draft even if they're not like extremely well rounded hitters,

553
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: even in college that if it's power over everything else,

554
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: that that can still are you noticing that those guys

555
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: can still go really near the top of the draft

556
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: even if they have potentially some limitations as long as

557
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: they have power, that that is something that is the

558
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: team's sort of big premium on in this day and age.

559
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: I think it depends on certain teams. Teams can feel

560
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: like they can develop that hitting tool, like, you know,

561
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: getting them an actual approach, you know, having them you know,

562
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: think more of instead of just go deep, you know,

563
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: have a game plan before you step up to the plate,

564
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, because honestly, you really can't teach power that much.

565
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: You you know, some guys just have it. And you know,

566
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: when you look at this list, you look at a

567
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: jag Berger, You're looking at Brett Rucker and Gavin Cheets

568
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: and Pavin Smith. There's guys that are contributing to the

569
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: big league level. Gavin who wasn't really a big name

570
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: college player, but he's been starting for the Chicago White Sox.

571
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: Now if you look at his war, his war is

572
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: pretty down because I mean he's only batting two oh three.

573
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: But his but his his power, you know, he said

574
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: eleven fifteen and had home runs. He's a guy that

575
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: will probably start for the White Sox again. Also, his

576
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: defense is terrible, Like he's just if he could just

577
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: dh that, they'll be perfectly okay with that. Berger obviously

578
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: has turned it up. You know last year he had

579
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: an incredible season and you know, the marger looking for

580
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: more of that. And Brent Rooker was an alstar at granted,

581
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: you know, he was an ulcer because Oakland needed a representative,

582
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: but he was a good player. I remembered him out

583
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: of college at Mississippi State. You know, he was the

584
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: SEC player of the year. So I think Frankie kind

585
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: of undersold them a little bit because he was a

586
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: really good college player because he was one of the

587
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: best players in the SEC. He might have not had

588
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: the best hitting tools, but he was a guy that

589
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: was able to hit for average and power against some

590
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: of the best arms in the country. So I think

591
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: he undersold Brent Rooker a little bit. And now we're

592
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: seeing Brent Rooker producing at the big league level.

593
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: When it comes to Berger, the power has especially this

594
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: past year. He has followed through on that promise, not

595
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: so much of the play discipline though he had a

596
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: strikeout rate, like over thirty percent before the trade. It

597
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: got better after the trade with the Marlins said, he's

598
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: still a pretty aggressive hitter even during the Christmas minor

599
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 2: league career as well. He hasn't been super patient up there.

600
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a fascinating thing to follow with him

601
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: moving forward is how much of his second half of

602
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: the Miami is indicative of who he really is or

603
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: how much of that was kind of a hot streak

604
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: at the perfect time for him, all things considered. Marlins

605
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: pretty thrilled with the way that that one worked out.

606
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: Definitely. I remember Berger was he was. He was another

607
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: small school guy, played college ball in Missouri State. So

608
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: that could be another reason why they think, oh, he's

609
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: got great discipline. We might just because he's able to

610
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: get to every single ball that's thrown in because he's

611
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: not seen mid mid nineties consistently, and he's got great

612
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: bat speeds, so you know, he might be able to

613
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: just Hey, I could cover a lot of the plate

614
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get walked because that's what

615
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: they're going to do, so I'm gonna swing. And his

616
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,959
Speaker 1: strikeout rate might be pretty low, but that's because, like

617
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: I said, the competition he's facing against isn't a league competition.

618
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: And now that he's in the big leagues, you know,

619
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: he really can't cover as much as you did in

620
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: college because obviously the arms are way better.

621
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, this is off topic a little bit, but

622
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 2: we're this is in the midst of winter ball going on,

623
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: and I'm Marl's traded for Vidal Bruhan last month. He's

624
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: been amazing and winterball, he's one of the league leaders

625
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: in obp over there, and it's from among the league

626
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: leaders and walks and it's so hard to discern, is

627
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: see getting on base forty two percent of the time

628
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: just because he's facing inferior pitching, and how much of

629
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: that is an actual adjustment that he's made that will

630
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: maybe make him more successful in the big leagues moving forward. Yeah,

631
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: winter ball's kind of in between high level college ball

632
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: and the majors, so it fits in between there where

633
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: it's you never really know until you see how it

634
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: looks at the highest level, how somebody's going to handle

635
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: the best pitching stuff in the world, because everything else

636
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: kind of pales in comparison to that.

637
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Vidall was the top prospect at one point

638
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: so maybe the hope is now he's starting to get

639
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: figure it out a little bit. Now the approach're starting

640
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: to get there, because I mean when he hit he

641
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: hit in the minors, I think he's like a career

642
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: two ninety hitter in the miners. He's got great being,

643
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: he's of adequate glove, I think, if I'm not mistaken.

644
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: So honestly, you know, as a Mat fan, you're hoping that, hey,

645
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: you know what, he's starting to figure it out, at

646
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: least the approach part. We know that when he puts

647
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: the ball and play, he could do damage.

648
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Speaker 2: So the final article we're looking at this is his

649
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Speaker 2: day two thoughts from the twenty seventeen draft, once again

650
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 2: from T one Baseball. Another reminder that will upload these

651
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Speaker 2: PDFs into our super subscriber section of the Marlins Discord server.

652
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Speaker 2: But if you want, there are hundreds hundreds of articles

653
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: that Frankie wrote for D one Baseball in those years

654
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Speaker 2: before going back onto the team side. You should subscribe

655
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: to D one baseball dot com to get those. So

656
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 2: in this case, he also looked at the just general

657
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: themes of the day from rounds three through ten in

658
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: the twenty seventeen draft, he highlighted Frankie Tarnick Freddy Freddy

659
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: Tarnak Tarnack. I saw this guy pitch towards the end

660
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: of the season, but he's now with the Oakland A's.

661
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: This is when he was drafted with the Braves, he

662
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: slept a young Jacob de Gram comp on him as

663
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: a late rising prospect, just somebody that was extremely raw

664
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Speaker 2: as a pitcher, but who had that potential as a

665
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: converted position player. Once he gets more reps as a pitcher,

666
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: he could figure it out. And so Tarnack has actually

667
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: had some big league time last year, and what I

668
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: saw from him was pretty electric that he showed. It's

669
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Speaker 2: just that it's still a small sample with him, so

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Speaker 2: the jury is still out on Freddy Tarnock. But Frankie

671
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 2: Pillieri loved his upside coming out of the draft at

672
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Speaker 2: the time, and then he had a big section on

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Speaker 2: the Marlins, thankfully, So this is one of the final

674
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: things we're going to cover here, highlighting the Marlins having

675
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Speaker 2: a big Day two of the draft and this one

676
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: did not age particularly well in the twenty seventeen draft.

677
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: He writes, the Marlins had a diverse and very intriguing

678
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: Hall of players from Day two. They began the day

679
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: by picking up advanced lefty bat Riley Mayhan from Kentucky,

680
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: who should be able to provide their system with a

681
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: quick moving college bat with some power. Spoiler alert, Riley

682
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 2: Mayhan has never reached the big leagues at this moment.

683
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Speaker 2: I believe he's a free agent. He kind of got

684
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: stuck at the Double A level where he had some

685
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: flashes at High A, at least when he was repeating

686
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 2: High A. And he was a second basement in the

687
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 2: system for about five six years and just he coundnot

688
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: get past that wall that he hid in the upper

689
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: minders as a hitter. Colton Hawk, their fourth round selection.

690
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Speaker 2: Colton Hawk, who's a right handed pitcher, may have been

691
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: one of the best value picks of the entire day,

692
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Speaker 2: as the Stanford righty may be able to successfully transition

693
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Speaker 2: to a starting role as a pro. Unfortunately, Hawk also

694
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: has not made it to the big leagues. He had

695
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: been in the Marlins organization until this past year. I

696
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: was talking to him. You had a very bizarre nerve

697
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: injury this past year that kind of wiped out his

698
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season, So maybe he could have snuck

699
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: up if he had performed in Triple A Jacksonville, he

700
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: may have gotten a taste of the big leagues. This

701
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: past year, the idea of him as a starter, though

702
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Speaker 2: it did not last very long. He had his most

703
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Speaker 2: success in the pros as a one or two ending

704
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: reliever at the time. And then Ryan Lily another arm

705
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Speaker 2: that could have success as his starter as a professional.

706
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: Lily had an interesting twenty eighteen season. I remember that

707
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: that kind of boosted his stock, and then the Marlins

708
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 2: cashed in on him. They traded him for international signing

709
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: bonus money and they used that money to sign the

710
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Speaker 2: Mesa Brothers. That was part of their effort to get

711
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: bonus money that year. And then Lily that was kind

712
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: of the highlight of his pro career. He also, like

713
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys, hit a wall when he

714
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: reached the high miner stands to make some adjustments and

715
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 2: it just didn't quite work out for him. So all

716
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 2: those guys from day two that Pilliery was excited about

717
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: zero for three in terms of guys that actually made

718
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Speaker 2: it to the big leads right here, there's there's a

719
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 2: final note at the end about Jake Mangham and another

720
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Speaker 2: player Tristan Beck, who guys that were draft eligible that

721
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 2: year but had seemingly decided to go back to school.

722
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Speaker 2: As it turns out, Mangum did wait two more years

723
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Speaker 2: before turning pro, eventually made it back to the Marlin system,

724
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Speaker 2: and then was traded back to the Rays in November,

725
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: a month ago most recently. So that was, yeah, he did.

726
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: He was high on what the Marlins did that particular year.

727
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Speaker 2: I believe this was like the final year with what's

728
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Speaker 2: his name, Stan meek fully at the helm of the

729
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Speaker 2: Marlins draft. The Marlins did okay with our first pick

730
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Speaker 2: in this draft, getting Trevor Rodgers, but almost everything after

731
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Speaker 2: that unfortunately flamed out a little bit in here trying

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Speaker 2: to see but he else in this section jumps out

733
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Speaker 2: to us here. But yeah, I would say overall his

734
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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen takes were a little bit more press sience

735
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Speaker 2: than twenty seventeen, wouldn't you say?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think the first part of the article mentioned

737
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Speaker 1: Keegan Thompson. Isn't Keegan Thompson now a big leaguer? That's

738
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Speaker 1: I think?

739
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, with the Cubs. He was selected by the Cubs.

740
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Speaker 2: I remember him. I needed to double check how effective

741
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: he's been I know he's been up in the big

742
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: leagues last few years, and he's a reliever at this point.

743
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Speaker 2: But he was pretty good as a starter in twenty

744
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Speaker 2: twenty two.

745
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Speaker 1: I mean respectable numbers. Honestly, like I'm looking at his

746
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: numbers he's pitched the last two seasons. Twenty twenty two,

747
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: he was actually a starter, pitched twenty nine games, started

748
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Speaker 1: seventeen of them. Career three, nine seven ERA, career one website.

749
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Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit of luck, but I mean, for

750
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Speaker 1: the most part, not a bad picture. I mean a

751
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Speaker 1: guy that's probably pretty serviceable. He's entering his age twenty

752
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: nine season, so I think a guy that the Cobs

753
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: are perfectly okay with, a guy that could be a

754
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: solid middle of the rotation type arm for them. So

755
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: at least Keagan looked up looks pretty decent.

756
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: At least, Yeah, should give him some bonus points for

757
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: that one. Then, in terms of these day two takes,

758
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: for sure, Yeah, another reminder here that this is from

759
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: all those years ago. So even though it's great that

760
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: we can see most of these results now come to

761
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: life and the upper reminders in the big leagues, I'm

762
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: sure there have been some lessons learned that he's taken

763
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: some steps forward as an evaluator even since then, in

764
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: ways that we'll never know for sure about. But I'd

765
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Speaker 2: be interested talking to him in the future. Maybe as

766
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: the spring season gets going, we'll have a chance to

767
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: get him on the POD. I shouldn't be clear that

768
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 2: this is not an official announcement yet. It was first

769
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: reported by Craig Mish, and it was confirmed by a

770
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 2: couple other reporters that this is happening. Marlins themselves haven't

771
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 2: announced his hiring at the moment, but once that is official,

772
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: it'd be a eager to talk to him. The last

773
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Speaker 2: thing I wanted to finish out with you, Hector, is

774
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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty fourth draft coming up. Marlins the sixteenth

775
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: overall pick. We finally had the draft order that is

776
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: firmly set coming out of the draft lottery in the

777
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Speaker 2: winter meetings. We've already seen a couple of mock drafts

778
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: come out. Baseball America had the Marlins linked with catcher

779
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: Jacob Cozart from NC State, and just today as we're

780
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Speaker 2: recording this, on Friday, the fifteenth Pipeline put out their

781
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: mock draft with a prep outfielder PJ. Moorlando going to

782
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Speaker 2: the Marlins at the sixteenth overall pick. To help everybody

783
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: at home, and took a snapshot of Pipelines prospects that

784
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: they have mid round rankings for from number thirteen to

785
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Speaker 2: number nineteen. Marlando was number fourteen on there. Yeah, this

786
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: is lower than the Marlins typically pick. This is just

787
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: where they were a few years ago in twenty one,

788
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: coming off that postseason appearance. So it's not quite as

789
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: sexy as when we usually look forward to a first

790
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: round pick with this Marlins team, because it depends on

791
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Speaker 2: who exactly falls them at this stage, you know, based

792
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: on what we know coming off of the fall season,

793
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 2: are there any particular targets that you're at this stage

794
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: kind of interested in and think could be nice fits

795
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: for the Marlins.

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Speaker 1: One guy that I would really be interested in seeing

797
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: is the potential Chase Burns out of wait for us.

798
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: This is a guy that could very well be the

799
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: best pitcher in college baseball. I mean, I think he

800
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: has the best slider in college baseball, has a big

801
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: time fastball, has reached in the triple digits as high

802
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: as one hundred and two miles power, And that's saying

803
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: a lot that I think his slider is better. I

804
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: think you're gonna get a slider that sits in the

805
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: mid upper eight upper eighties generates a lot of swinging

806
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: miss guy pitched in the SEC and the biggest issue

807
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: was didn't have a lot of control, didn't really have

808
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: a third pitch. He's still trying to develop that change up.

809
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: But honestly, that seems to be like the type of

810
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: guy that the Martins like to go after. A guy

811
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: that has that power fastball, has a great breaking pitch,

812
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: and then you developed the third pitch and hope to

813
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: fix some of the command. So maybe Chase Burns would

814
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: be that option. Wake Forest. This will be a tough test.

815
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: Wake Forest has a small field. So he's going from

816
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: the University of Tennessee. He just transferred. He was at

817
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: UT the last two years. Was actually what are their starters?

818
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: When they were the number one team in the country

819
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. He was there as a freshman.

820
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: He was in their rotation and because of command issues,

821
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: actually ended up becoming a bullpen armed for them. But

822
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: I still look at the value, I still look at

823
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: the arm talent. This is a guy that a lot

824
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: of people thought when he hit the portal was gonna

825
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: end up at Vanderbilt. I ended up surprising a lot

826
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Speaker 1: of people going to Wake Forest. They were one of

827
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Speaker 1: the top teams in the country last year. They had

828
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Speaker 1: one of the top pitchers in the draft class last year,

829
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Speaker 1: a guy that I was very high on. So it'll

830
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Speaker 1: be interesting to see what the developments like for him

831
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Speaker 1: at Wake Forest. The only thing I'll say is like,

832
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: don't let the numbers fool you. This ballpark is like

833
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: three hundred and ten feet down the poles. So there's

834
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: high school fields that are bigger than Wake Forest. So

835
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Speaker 1: you know, if he gives up a lot home runs,

836
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Speaker 1: just like to see how many of those are in

837
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: the are in his ballpark because those some of those

838
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: home runs might be routine flyouts and let's say at

839
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: the U or FSU, and they're carrying over the fence

840
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: because Wake Forest plays in a you know, they played

841
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: in a freaking Cooper's Down.

842
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: And at least at this stage, from what we know

843
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 2: about Frankie Pillieri is that the Mariners have had quite

844
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: a bit of success with drafting pitchers starting pitchers in

845
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: recent years. Well, he's been there, how much influence he

846
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: had as an assistant. We don't know, but they George

847
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: Kirby to give one Bryce.

848
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: Miller Logan Gilbert Logan.

849
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Speaker 2: Gilbert that must have been pretty early on in his

850
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: stint there. And uh, Brian even Brian wu that was

851
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 2: another rookie that's viewed this past year that they drafted

852
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: just to twenty twenty one. So they have have very

853
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: good track records there in a similar way that the

854
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: Marlins do. We've the Marlins get a lot of hype

855
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: for the way that they developed their own pictures. That

856
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: doesn't mean they're the only one that has that kind

857
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 2: of reputation. The Mariners I've earned that as well with them,

858
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: and it's a it's an interesting match, even though it's

859
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 2: some of this. As we talked about at the start

860
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Speaker 2: of the showya, the Marlins needed a change with their

861
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: whole draft process. Too many good opportunities for early round

862
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 2: picks that just didn't pan out and they weren't getting

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Speaker 2: the value that they were supposed to over there. So

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Speaker 2: this we will be anxious to see exactly what it

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Speaker 2: is that Frankie changes here. The draft's still almost seven

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Speaker 2: months away, but as a gets closer, we will have

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Speaker 2: plenty of coverage for that here on fish on First

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Speaker 2: about all things Marlin's going on here, so with Eli

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Speaker 2: Susman Hector Rodriguez right here. Thanks everybody for tuning in

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Speaker 2: to the official show and hope you tune into the

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Speaker 2: rest of the stuff that we're doing. Yeah, hopefully the

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Speaker 2: hiring is official by the time this episode comes out,

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Speaker 2: but we have live enough smoke out there. We have

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Speaker 2: some signs. As soon as the thing was reported, Frankie

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Speaker 2: Pilliery made his Twitter account private, but I snuck in

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Speaker 2: there right before he did that, so I think that's

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Speaker 2: an interesting hint that he may be going to a

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Speaker 2: prominent position within organization and doesn't want any of his

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Speaker 2: stuff dug up like that. Either way, a pretty exciting hire.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Hector for coming on here with me, and

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Speaker 2: we'll have additional coverage of this up on the site,

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Speaker 2: so go ahead and check that out. Fish on First

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Speaker 2: dot com. Appreciate everybody, as always, go fish